Kate Middleton to miss William’s Wings Ceremony
When Prince William receives his pilot’s wings at his graduation ceremony on Friday, Kate Middleton will not be there to watch him.
The move, which will strike many observers as unusual, is part of a concerted strategy by the Prince to keep his girlfriend of five years out of the limelight for as long as possible. However, it does not mean their relationship is in trouble.
A source close to the couple said: “Kate and William are very happy together and this is a mutual decision. “She doesn’t want the attention to be on her and neither does William.”
The 25-year-old Prince is also anxious to avoid a repetition of his passing-out parade at Sandhurst in December 2006, when Kate’s status within the Royal Family was officially confirmed.
Kate was seated with her parents, and it seemed to be a clear sign she was destined to become William’s wife.
But it is widely believed that the embarrassingly “middle-class” behaviour of her mother, Carole - who chewed gum throughout the ceremony and is said to have used words such as “toilet” and “pardon” in front of the Queen - contributed towards their break-up last April.
“The ceremony turned out to be the Middleton parade in the end,” said the source. “There was far too much attention on Kate and her family. It annoyed William and he doesn’t want a repeat performance. ”
He has told Kate she needs to keep a lower profile and she is happy to.
“They have both talked about getting engaged. “We all know it’s on the cards. But they know that once it’s announced, it will be open season on Kate. They still see each other all the time; they just do so privately.” (via Daily Mail)
April 6th, 2008 07:06
Hello, I am new here. I am compelled to comment on how odd this article is. I hope these quotes and “sources” are not accurate because the tone in which they seem to describe the princes’ attitude toward his girlfriend and her family seems quite disrespectful. If the RF and PW want less attention paid to KM,they why announce that she is being asked to not attend the event? That in itself draws attention to the whole situation. This whole things comes off as tabloid-ish to me,especially with the word “ban” used in the title. Miss Middleton must be a very patient young lady indeed.
April 6th, 2008 07:42
I totally agree that this is odd. Why annonce this so early? So that the papers and the royal forums can “analyse” it for a week? So that all kinds of strange theories can be offered? So that Kate M and her family can be embarresed even more?
This is maybe bad for Kate but it sure makes Will look bad too.
Who is she supposed to take the attention away from? The other guys and their girlfriends/ wives (who will be there)? Have they complained? I doubt it. They would probably like to meet her. So the only ones who wouldn’t like it are Wills, Charles and Camilla. Not nice. Will this ever stop? Is it Diana over again?
April 6th, 2008 09:02
I agree the article makes William and the RF look like snobs who are embarrassed by Kate’s “commoness”. I can understand that they wnat to keep their relationship low key but the reasoning given in this article sounds odd.
Will the “wings” ceremony be similar to the Sandhurst passing out with stands for guests and family? If so and all the other flying officers will invite family and g/f, I think Kate should be invited.It’s not her fault when the press is all over her. If it’s just the formal dinner with army officers mentioned in some other article, I could understand why Kate would not be going.
April 6th, 2008 09:28
The Thursday dinner is a personal invite from PC to PW and the other 20 wing cadets. The ceremony is on Friday.
April 6th, 2008 09:34
It seems to be a Royal Gossip Weekend.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=557525&in_page_id=1879
Remember the article describing who and what KM and her family was and are, the DM wrote a piece of Autumn Kelly - too much description. Sounds like the author wants to bash her.
Princess Autumn and the Get Along Gang
When the ushers at St George’s Chapel welcome the 350 guests for what will be the most significant Royal wedding in nearly three decades, they will be extra careful not to stumble over their words.
After all, the two groups of relatives at the nuptials of Peter Phillips and Autumn Kelly next month are such polar opposites that one slip of the tongue over the question, “Are you with the bride or groom?” could cause a few raised aristocratic eyebrows.
Its a lengthy article from quotes from Family and Friends - or very distant family and friends ?!
April 6th, 2008 09:45
Wow, another weekend article
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/2008/04/06/wills-heir-kisses-78057-20374269/
PRINCE WILLIAM kissed a mystery blonde yesterday but girlfriend Kate Middleton didn’t seem to mind…this time.
He embraced the female friend as he, Kate and Prince Harry turned up at the society wedding of a posh friend.
Scots heiress Iona Douglas Home, 27, got married to Irishman Tom Hewitt, 29, at St Andrew’s Episcopal Church in Kelso.
Iona had been tipped as a bride for Wills before his romance with Kate.
The Royals arrived in black Range Rovers. One local said: “We’d heard there was going to be a grand wedding but had no idea the princes were guests.
“It was obvious they were among close friends by the way they were hugging and kissing everyone.”
So they went to a wedding last night.
April 6th, 2008 10:18
BRW, Steven, whent time permits, I think you should summarize the whole weekend royal news. Here’s another one new/but old “Harry to Marry”.
All the above articles where posted by the tabs 5th/6th of April.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/34185/HARRY-TO-MARRY
LOVESTRUCK Prince Harry has had an “intense” heart-to-heart with his girlfriend Chelsy Davy’s parents – sparking speculation they are to marry.
It seems to be a horse competition to see which tab sells more papers ! Gosh
April 6th, 2008 11:11
i love chelsy…but i dont think that she will be a good princess. maybe if he does propose she can grow up a little and they can both stop partying
April 6th, 2008 11:22
Well they are at the age of partying, who doesn’t at their age ? Seems normal to me, maybe she doesn’t seem to be a controlling person, and the press exagerate on her to be one - that’s my analysis from last years (end sept. beginning of oct) supposed report that he didn’t celebrate her b-day, that she said “he was partying too much”, furiously texting another girl” and the likes, when both of them look to be a “bubbly” couple. They are still very young, but anyway nice couple, they seem to be a perfect match.
April 6th, 2008 11:29
Help ! Another one:
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/40363
CAMILLA AND WILLS GET CLOSE
PRINCE WILLIAM has personally asked the Duchess of Cornwall to be at the ceremony when he is awarded his wings at RAF Cranwell this Friday in a touching example of the increasing warmth between the two.
Royal aides have remarked on the way a “natural affection and fondness” has grown between the young prince and his stepmother Camilla, once so villified as the “other woman” whose affair with Prince Charles caused such hurt to William’s mother Diana.
“They don’t just pretend to like each other – they genuinely do,” observes a senior figure in Prince Charles’s household.
April 6th, 2008 11:34
Well those papers need to get their stories straight. Either Camilla is spending more and more time away from CH at her country home or she’s “getting close” to William who stays in CH when he’s not in the barracks.
Camilla was at Harry’s Sandhurst parade as well. She just attends the same events Charles does, right? I don’t think she needs a “personal” invitation from William to be there.
April 6th, 2008 12:08
i agree they are at the age of partying. Chelsy is a fun person and harry seems to relly love her but she is his first love and it isnt always a good thing to marry your first. If you havent had another love how do you know that who you are with is the right person if you havent had anything to compare it with or if you havent had a chance to see what else is out there.
The reason i think she wouldnt be a good princess is all we have seen of her is partying. Maybe that would change when/if he does propose because that is a big step and you have to mature to do it…..so we will see………………….
April 6th, 2008 12:19
Chelsy is a law student and supposedly rather academic so hardly the dumb blond party bimbo the British tabs like to portrait her as. I am still not sure whether she’ll be happy in the RF though. To me it looks like her and Harry have an unfortunate tendency to run and hide in Africa whenever they get the chance. They couldn’t do that once they were married and full time royals. How happy will they be without their love holidays in Africa? I don’t know how content she’d be in the stiff environment of a royal palace and the press will gleefully revel in every little mistake she makes. She’ll always be compared unfavourably to Kate (just like Harry is to William) whether she deserves it or not. Given that they are still very young and haven\’t really lived together in the same country for a lot of time, let alone expierience every day life together, I think they should wait some more years before they decide to marry.
April 6th, 2008 13:35
Kate’s been BANNED , that is wonderful news. She looked a bit overdone and her gum chewing mother did look a bit of a spectacle at William’s Sandhurst Parade.
April 6th, 2008 13:54
Oh My God - chewing gum in public? How dare Mrs. Middleton do such a horrible thing. Lock her in the Tower of London, I say!! The nerve of the woman. Oh yes, and she used the word “toilet” in front of the Queen - well then, OFF WITH HER HEAD.
But seriously, how ridiculous this all is.
April 6th, 2008 14:25
I think if William is going to marry this girl then isn’t it about time he started acting like he wants to marry her and stop playing games. If William really wants Kate to be a part of his life she should be included in things like his graduation.William seems to have a real problem lately with being photographed with Kate like he tries to avoid being photograped with her. But why would he want to do that if he wants to marry her.
Infact she needs to be included in more events in his life as it’s about time she started being seen intergrating with the Royal family. If she does turn up at Peter and Autumn’s wedding I’ll see it as a start. That is if she turns up as her absence from William’s graduations makes me wonder whether she’ll be at the wedding. Because if she is ‘banned’ from the graduation because she creates too much attention then why allow her to go to Peter and Autumn’s wedding because that is exactly what will happen. Infact she might attract more attention then the bride and groom.
Yes William trying to keep her out of the limelight but what is the point when everyone knows about her anyway. Yes she generates a lot of attention but what does he expect she could end up as the next Princess of Wales etc. As long as she remains in his life she’ll create attention so what is his problem? What’s with all the secrecy? If he really loves her and intends to marry her then he should be proud to be seen with her and want to be seen with her. Enough of all these games.
Same goes with the relationship. If he’s going to marry her, marry her or let her go.
April 6th, 2008 14:35
I agree with jess,enough with the games
April 6th, 2008 14:39
And let’s face it, William is at fault here very much. That’s why I don’t like to see just Kate Middleton get knocked - William, like his father, is what Prince Philip calls “a ditherer”. Prince William is no angel in all of this either.
April 6th, 2008 14:53
true if he is embarassed by her maybe he shouldn’t date her anymore.stop dithering pw
April 6th, 2008 15:22
I feel that there is more to the banned story than is being reported at this point. I think William looked silly hiding his face on the ski-trip with Kate. I think in a few days we will be reading about how the Queen or someone else in Palace circles may have helped him come to this decision to keep Kate away from the event. I don’t think this” ban” bodes well for Kate , because if she were on her way to becoming Royal fiancee, it seems she would start being included more in these types of events. Her appearance at the Sandhurst Parade with her family evidently did not go over well inside the Palace, despite the press telling us how wonderful it was. This story was put out for a reason.
April 6th, 2008 15:23
I totally agree with your post Jess.
Jess
April 6th, 2008 14:25
I think if William is going to marry this girl then isn’t it about time he started acting like he wants to marry her and stop playing games. If William really wants Kate to be a part of his life she should be included in things like his graduation.William seems to have a real problem lately with being photographed with Kate like he tries to avoid being photograped with her. But why would he want to do that if he wants to marry her.
Infact she needs to be included in more events in his life as it’s about time she started being seen intergrating with the Royal family. If she does turn up at Peter and Autumn’s wedding I’ll see it as a start. That is if she turns up as her absence from William’s graduations makes me wonder whether she’ll be at the wedding. Because if she is ‘banned’ from the graduation because she creates too much attention then why allow her to go to Peter and Autumn’s wedding because that is exactly what will happen. Infact she might attract more attention then the bride and groom.
April 6th, 2008 16:28
Since Kate and Prince Charles get along so welll, he should let William and Camilla get together (they get on well), and he can have Kate - isn’t he looking for a new mistress anyway?
April 6th, 2008 17:03
April 6th, 2008 17:20
wonder what attracted william to kate anyway?
she is a cute girl but he can have so much more.
she seems to have no dignity becaus shes happy being a doormat.
she has no job.
she lives off her daddys money.
he doesnt seem to even be happy with her. if he was do you think he would “ban” her from his ceremony? the article says he doesnt want all the attention on her and if they marry ALL of the attention will be on her. so do you relly think he will marry her?? i dont
April 6th, 2008 18:22
Jess, I also agree with your thoughts. Whether PW intends to come off the way he does or not, he sure apppears to be very inconsistent in regards to Kate. I sort of feel bad for her but then again we really don’t know what is going on inside and things may become more clear once they make that announcement. I think a large part of the problem is how the press chooses to editorialize in these articles. This is something that CH should respond to,IMO> For them to say Kate was “Banned” is simply improper and irresponsible not to mention how it makes PW look!
April 6th, 2008 18:28
She might even end up being there or another one of those DM articles reporting a day later mentioning she was there.
April 6th, 2008 20:35
yeh she will be wearing a wig,right
April 6th, 2008 20:39
make it ,or break it ,this is getting ridiculous
April 6th, 2008 21:00
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you cant make up your mind of someone in 5 YEARS they arent the right person for you!!!!!!!
April 6th, 2008 21:05
wow me to lovely with her wearing is clean & pretty more wonderful women, and then she get more new dress princess*
April 6th, 2008 22:08
i thinked kate and pw are avoiding the paparazzi in the grad parade!:)
April 6th, 2008 22:13
avoiding the press km you jest.
April 6th, 2008 22:33
ok i think prince william with girl dance club night in paparazzi, i don’t think so prince william getting marry with her is broke up, pooh kate i think she going to be ok maybe,
April 6th, 2008 22:58
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557520&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
update royal happening!
April 6th, 2008 23:01
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557524&in_page_id=1770
update on royal happenings
April 6th, 2008 23:14
prince charles & princess camila there are three year wedding, and then prince son will & harry is it happy with prince dad charles>-*
April 7th, 2008 07:55
Going back to this secrecy thing. The problem I see with William hiding Kate from the limelight is it might be great for them as it gives them a break but I reckon it’s fuelling the interest in them. Secrecy equals curiosity and curiosity leads to intrusion because people want to know what is going on.
As far as William is concerned his relationship is noone’s business but he is the future King and as long as he remains so people will be interested in who he is dating because they could end up being his Queen. The more William shuts Kate up away from the public the more intense the interest will become so when the engagement is announced, that’s if, the media intrusion will be far greater than if he was more open about her. Kate’ll get interest anyway but I think it’ll be even greater now because of the secrecy.
I think the pair need to start coming back out into the public eye together more now especially if they intend to become engaged. The polo season is coming up so it’ll be good for them if they attend a couple of matches together. It’s low key but it’s public enough for people to get a glimpse of them. It’ll be a good opportunity for William to start to introduce her to the public as his future bride, if that is what he intends to do, so that they can get to know her because at the moment she’s still as stranger to the public. Noone really knows who she is or what she’s about, as we only have the press to go on. It’ll allow people to form a better judgement on her.
Either way William needs to start showing a more mature attitude towards this relationship if he intends to marry her as at the minute he doesn’t seem to know what he wants. He may have made up his mind all ready but noone can see that. Enough of all the secrecy and games. He needs to either marry her and show that he wants to marry her or let her go because this has gone on long enough.
Harry, on the other hand, seems to have a more mature approach to relationships than he’s brother has. He’s more open but at the same time he seems to handle it better than his brother does.
April 7th, 2008 08:43
Why does he have to comply with what the press or public want. I think he should do it in the time table he wants to do it. There are other European Princes who are going through the 8th year of boyfriend/girlfriend situation…
April 7th, 2008 12:19
I think the big difference between the wings ceremony and a skiing holiday is the simply fact that one is an official royal event while the other is a spare time activity - no camparison there. Kate was at Sandhurst and there was a huge debate about her appearance and her parent’s behaviour etc. I don’t see why it should be so surprising or shows lack of committment on William’s part not to subject Kate, her family and himself to the same sort of media circus again. They went on a skiing holiday together, attended a charity party and a wedding last week how does that show lack of committment or a reluctance to appear with her as his g/f in public? He was never one to parade her around in front of the paps and if he does that’s wrong too cause she gets called an attention wh*** for it. Seriously it’s ridiculous how everything they do is criticised and interpreted as supposed sign for a lack of love. I’m sure if she does turn up at the wings ceremony, she’ll be blamed for having “forced” her way into it and posing for the cameras etc.
What does Harry do different? He hasn’t been seen acting lovy-dovy with Chelsy since the concert for Diana. He’s been out and about in London with and without and they never posed for the paps, held hands or kissed. Frankly, they don’t look any more or less like a couple at those occasions than William and Kate do.And Harry didn’t even bother to bring Chelsy to the charity fund raiser or the Homes-Douglas wedding and she probably won’t attend Peter’s wedding either. So he doesn’t take her to official functions. Where’s the difference? What exactly is more mature about his approach??? I see that he’s more outgoing but that’s a general trait of character and I don’t think it’s fair to blame Willam for the fact that he’s more reserved in public and doesn’t make out with his g/f for millions of TV watchers world wide to see.
April 7th, 2008 12:29
Well said!
April 7th, 2008 13:09
God darn Trixie, couldn’t have said it better, all angles covered !
April 7th, 2008 13:37
I guess William’s girlfriend Kate have to missout on Williams graduation ceramony it’s too bad for her.
April 7th, 2008 15:16
I think he should make up his mind already ,dating someone 5-8 years with a maybe if your lucky in acouple of years I will marry you promise is kind of cruel.just ask all those women prince Albert dated they just use these girls up,and move on.
April 7th, 2008 21:56
Just because we the public does not know what is going on in William and Kate’s private relationship does not mean they haven’t talked about or made plans for their future, whether together of separate.
April 7th, 2008 23:29
it doesnt mean pw is keepingkate from the limelight or the paparazzi.
April 8th, 2008 02:17
I think most people here have a point to some degree. Trixie, you were right on the ball about why she is not going to the graduation but did go skiing.
I do agree with jenny as well though. It is cruel to say to someone that you will marry them and not to mean it. It messes with that person’s emotions. But then Angie is also right as we do not know what they are thinking or doing.
BTW here is another link to a magazine I found. It is not the full story as you need the magazine but it gives an overview.
http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/b/newidea/11725/buckingham-palacethe-knives-are-out-for-kate/
Please remember that this is hardly a reliable source. However, I think it was the magazine that reveal PH was in Afganisthan (please correct me if I am wrong).
April 8th, 2008 06:50
If it hits the rest of the tabs…like PH was in Afganistan
April 8th, 2008 15:22
The Queen and The Palace have noticed Kate has no work ethic. True I’d say.
A former press officer for the Queen said: “She seems to be counting her chickens before they’ve hatched. She needs more on her CV than a knowledge of nightclubs.” New Idea Magazine.
April 8th, 2008 15:56
A “former”…sounds like an ex butler, reminds me of…
April 8th, 2008 17:31
the former press officer said that but it doesnt say that the queen actually said that
its true about her work ethic but that doesnt mean the queen doesnt like her. I think the queen will like anyone that the boys are with just because they are happy
April 8th, 2008 17:45
hi prince william you to be ok take care of you have a nice day,
with in her beautiful special friend cinthya*
April 8th, 2008 18:45
It’s been reported to be have been said before, just because it’s something negative said about Kate doesn’t make it Untrue.
It is interesting she’s being kept away from William’s Wings Ceremony. Evidently she hasn’t exactly made a great impression, as far as Royal outings go. She is being kept away.
Kate hasn’t done much since University except vacation, work a job for a few months, get dumped, go to clubs with William’s pals, wear short skirts, vacation.
Just because the Press is trying to shove Kate down the throats of the public for future Queen, doesn’t mean that the Palace or William is going to make her his wife. The Palace has seen all this before. William still hasn’t proposed to Kate when all is said and done, she’s a on and off girlfriend still.
April 8th, 2008 19:37
i agree with you. I dont like kate and its not that im jelous i just dont think she is a good person for william. She hasnt done anything and that is not a good sign from someone who could possibly be queen one day. I think that if the monarchy survives charles that it might not survive lazy kate.
but thats just my opinion so dont attack me!!!!
April 8th, 2008 20:32
hey and,merrick good one,thanks b it’s good to know everyone can have an pov ,and still be friendly
April 8th, 2008 20:33
hey william how are you is doing today feeling ok me to, ok anyway prince will do you like it army well you need be very carefuly i don’t want to died prince will please be careful ok and you to prince harry, we miss you we love you very england london familys & friends princes & queen.
April 9th, 2008 08:46
I think a distinction should be made between regarding Kate a suitable wife for William as a person and regarding her to be a suitable Royal. None of us can really say whether she’s suitable for William as a person since we know neither of them personally or even well enough to seriously judge their characters.
Whether she’ll be a good royal is obviously up to debate. I can understand the reasoning that she might not make a good princess because she doesn’t have a career or charity experience to relie on. Still I don’t think that the conlusion
no job= no work ethic = bad royal is compelling. While we can be pretty sure that she doesn’t have a 9-5 job, none of us know what she does 24/7 hence we cannot assess how much work ethic she has or how determined she might be in a fuction as a Princess.
During the 4 months this year she has not been pictured shopping once, partied twice and had one week-long holiday. So it’s definitely going too far to say she does nothing but shop, party and vacation.
All in all we have “news” of her on 6 occassions (her birthday, Africa Africa, her mother’s birthday, Cheltenham, Easter holiday and charity party last week) amounting to a total of pics on not more than 11 days this year. What she did with the other hours in the respective days let alone the other 88 days this year neither of us knows. So our “knowledge” of her life includes reliable information on about 10% of it (maybe a bit more the previous years but still far less than even 50%). To base a serious assessement of her suitability on this little information let alone a reliable prediction for her possible behavior as a royal is impossible, IMO.
I’m not saying she’d be a good Princess either since it’s equally impossible to say as much.I just wanted to point out that the very harsh judgement some make is based on very few and unreliable information and therefore standing on “shaky feet”.
April 9th, 2008 09:07
Trixie, as usual, your posts are neatly balanced and mature.
7th ocassion (No pic sightng, yes a local neighbor source and a guest confirmed) the Iona wedding this past saturday.
April 9th, 2008 10:11
Good post. I agree. Still I don’t think just because someone has a negative opinion of Kate’s possibility as a Princess material, that it is harsh,I think it is just a different opinion. Why is it that the positivie opinions are not “superificial” or based on unreliable press reports. All our opinions are based on what we see in the press , it is just each individual’s opinion. I still don’t see why when there are people who say she appears lazy, or not to have a work ethic, it is somehow harsh, it is just an opinion. One could say that the puffed up, positive stories and opinions of Kate’s potential as a future Queen are unrealistic.
April 9th, 2008 10:17
It all depends on your vocab wording merrick. To convince another persons POV, if the vocab contains you know what, what it will convince me of is - the person is a bang header !
April 9th, 2008 10:19
I mean, if the POV is negative (dislike) there is so many wise vocab wording to be used, without bang heading.
April 9th, 2008 10:50
but….
I am not trying to convince anyone, I am simply stating my opinion of Kate. My opinion comes from myself, it is organic, not based on others here. I like reading all opinions. If I see her as lazy and unsuitable,it should not determine what others see or think, nor do I write my opinion for that reason. I am just stating how I see her. I love that eveyone has their own individual opinions of the images and stories of Kate which have been presented over time by the press.
April 9th, 2008 12:37
If you had read my post carefully you would have noted that I did NOT say, she would make a good princess because I admit that I do not have enough information on Kate Middleton to make such an assessment. I would have to leave that to those who know her personally like William and other members of the RF. And they will eventually decide whether she will become a princess or not.
To say you think she wouldn’t make a good princess is of course your pregogative and as I stated one cannot prove either point.
The difference is, IMO, the way you phrase your “opinion”. If you simply state “She hasn’t done much but shop, vacation and party.” that is is simply wrong since you have no way of knowing. The same way it would be wrong if I said she is a hard-worker who deeply cares for charity. There’s no way I could know that. To say she doesn’t have a job - is of course right (for what we know) but the conclusion YOU draw out of that - namely that she’s lazy, should be phrased as such.
April 9th, 2008 12:54
Very good points Trixie. But merrik’s penulatimute post was good as well. We all have different opinions and should respect them.
I have to agree with Trixe about the lack of holidays, clubbing etc. It makes me think that she is being deliberatly careful about what she does (which is not a bad thing). Unfortunately for her, there are several articles cropping up which show her in a bad light. A shame as those reporter’s don’t know her as a person and only her public actions. After all it is what a person appears to be in private that shows what they are truely like. In public many people act differently to adapt to situations.
Whilst last year I did not like her actions i.e. constant partying in the summer and far too many holidays, I am beginning to reconsider my opinion of her. I’m still not her biggest fan, but I do feel that she is growing up. Hopefully she and William will make the right decisions whether that is to stay together, to get married or to break up.
April 9th, 2008 13:19
I agree Trixie and B, I find all of your post quite delightful to read. I was more answering some others.
I agree we don’t know what Kate does on her own, I only see what she portrays(to me in the press) when she is in front of the cameras. When I see Autumn,(and Sophie as a girlfriend before marriage) I never had or have the feeling that they were or are lazy at anytime. It is reported that Autumn works for a computer company or business, we have not seen her work, but I have never felt she was lazy, but that is just my opinion. I just think Kate has never been much of a hardworker, I think there is a lot of pretense with her press, most of the jobs- careers reported for her have never materialized. I will say she “seems” or “appears” lazy to me. I won’t change my words to suit others. Why are people so touchy if someone says something about Kate that does not fit with the positive stories or swooning over her, it is only one or very few who ever say something negative about Kate. She gets about 90% positive comments, “so-what” if one or two people think she’s not so great for Queen material, it’s not really a big deal.
April 9th, 2008 13:28
I guess the main difference is just that you think
no job= lazy and others (myself included) don’t concur with that conlusion. But then I think the “job issue” has been debated at length and there’s no point to repeat the same debate with the same arguments over and over again. We should just agree to disagree.
April 9th, 2008 13:55
I think she is unsuitable in other ways too for Queen. Yes I do think she seems lazy. I like your posts and enjoy reading varied opinions.
April 9th, 2008 14:44
Does anyone really believe this women ,who seems to enjoy her holidays without much working to earn them.Will infact be able to do the same work as princess royal Anne
That 595 engagement a year duty.I don’t think she has it in her,but neither does Camilla ,and look what people say about her.The future Queen should be more suitable than lazy katie.Have you ever heard a story of her majesty going into a sex shop,or mooning people.no that disqualified her in my eyes .she could of had her sister go to the sex shop .She knew she would be recognized.She painted a naked picture of herself for pw’s birthday ,everybody saw it. Such vanity.he must have been so embarrassed that everybody knew what she looked like naked.such a role model for future royals.just my pov.
April 9th, 2008 15:08
merrick your wording express’s your POV, like since today. Really makes a lot of difference, to understand your POV without bang heading hatefull words.
People tend to jump read as soon as the first bang heading word appears in the first or second sentence…I’ve seen it happen in many different forums, although I’ve also seen extremely heavy hate forums dedicated to the 2 couples, real vomit, unrepeated wording.
April 9th, 2008 15:21
just curios what are those forums names,you keep talking about them ,but you never say what they are called?
April 9th, 2008 15:31
google key words i.e. forum + royal and the likes
April 9th, 2008 19:43
prince william please don’t marry with kate middlie please don’t doing?
April 9th, 2008 21:02
It’s really amazing and unfortunate that so many choose to judge Kate Middleton and her relationship with prince William so harshly.We know so little about this young woman except what the tabloid press has fed us. I have to believe that prince William is the best judge on what is best for him and if he chooses to make Kate his bride, I will accept her with open arms and look foward to finding out who the real Kate Middleton is.
April 9th, 2008 21:05
merrick you got anymore info on km
April 9th, 2008 21:38
http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full%26objectID=20360116%26siteID=93463-name_page.html
You’ve got to go for it
Dean Rousewell
Prince William - not his father Charles - will decide the future of the monarchy, writes DEAN ROUSEWELL.
If Wills loses the goodwill and adoration of the British public, republicans will rejoice.
That is why his decision to put a ring on long-term girlfriend Kate Middleton’s finger should be a cause for national celebration.
He dumped her once - and we saw a side of Wills, for the first time, that we didn’t like.
But Kate remained a model of discretion and dignity throughout.
We all like her, Wills, so go for it - and don’t change your mind again!
April 9th, 2008 22:49
so basically they are telling him marry her ,or else
April 10th, 2008 02:36
It’s strange how some people continue to call Kate Middleton “lazy” or not fit to be Queen. Just what exactly did Princess Elizabeth ever do before becoming Queen of England. She didn’t even have any real formal education. But as Queen she has more than proven herself to be a wonderful monarch. So I guess my point is, don’t pre-judge someone so much because you never know how they really are. No one would have thought that Princess Elizabeth would have the stuff to make her a great Queen but it was there within her somewhere and she learned and worked hard when she took on the Top Job. I have a feeling that Kate may be a bigger asset in years to come, IF William does marry her, and we may just all be sitting back someday commenting about what a wonderful Princess of Wales she is and eventually, Queen Consort. I mean, who would have ever thought early on that Diana would emerge to become the great people person and charity advocate that she became later in life. She basically had lived a charmed life, worked as an assistant at a nursery school, did some nanny work but also came from a very wealthy family - don’t think her father didn’t give money to her. So let’s give people the benefit of the doubt - when it’s their turn to shine they just might surprise you.
And I really don’t think William is letting anyone tell him to marry Kate or else. I fault him - once again, he’s a ditherer just like his father on marriage and commitment. He’s got some growing up to do too.
April 10th, 2008 02:40
Again, so what if Kate was in a sex shop. Elizabeth wasn’t caught in a sex shop because in those days you never saw women of her breeding and upbringing going to places like that. This is the 21st century people - women go in sex shops, they buy erotic lingerie, women do a million things today that women in the 40’s, 50’s 60’s and even the 70’s never did. It’s a different time, different era, different century. My goodness are we so uptight that now we condemn someone for going to a sex shop? But I guess it would be cute if William or Harry did that? It’s okay for guys but not for grown women - the old double standard.
April 10th, 2008 02:46
Why do you keep harping on the same things - Kate was in a sex shop, Kate was mooning people, Kate painted a nude photo of herself that EVERYBODY supposedly saw. I didn’t see it. Where was it that everyone saw it? Hanging in the British Museum? It’s in the past - are William and Harry such saints? Everyone has mistakes they’ve made in life - no one is perfect but healthy people move on, learn from their mistakes, and grow. So can we just let go of these obsessions about Kate Middleton. If William was so embarassed, why didn’t he just dump her once and for all? I didn’t realize that people were so prudish or want to gripe about the same silly things over and over. Let it go and move on to something else.
April 10th, 2008 03:18
I don’t want to get at you Jade but I do wish to present some arguments about the points which you have made.
a) The Church of England says that everybody must remain pure until they are married. Whilst it is not expected of most people to do so, it is not right that Kate (if she is to be his future bride) should be obvious about it. There are many religious people who would expect their future head of their religion to appear to follow the beliefs, that also applies for his wife. this was why it was considered wrong for Kate to paint that picture. It is alright to do as it is almost expected these days, but it is not right to talk about it. I don’t know where you are from, but I find that in England, sex is still not discussed as freely as other places. I know that I would never make it obvious to my grandparents or friends that, it would be disrespectful. Besides, it just does not appear right for Kate to do so, when it could be published over the news. Almost a case of TMI (too much information).
b)The Queen worked as a mechanic I believe to help during the war. We have to remember that she was bought up in a time when education was affected by the war. My own grandmother received no formal education and only managed her degree when she was married. It was not possible for most children to receive an education. My grandmother tells me how half the school would go to lessons in the morning and the other half in the afternoon. Although, this does not apply to the Queen, it does show that times were difficult. Besides, women had a different role then.
c) It is expected for a woman to behave in a different way these days. You cannot claim that it is alright for her not to have a job as it was never done in the past. But then to claim that it is alright for her to visit sex shops as it is done now. These days women have jobs AND visit sex shop. But my argument for her doing it more discreetly can be seen above.
Just a couple of points. But you right that William is dithering, he should just make up his mind whether or not to be with her. I feel sorry for Kate in a way. She has expected it for so long that she has not bothered to do anything, just in case. But it has been that way for the past 2/3 years.
April 10th, 2008 06:53
OK Magazine has pics of the Charity HvS Memorial event, where I could say that older people of the ilks of Sara McCorkdale (Diana’s sister) went on with the dinner and strip show. So yes we are in the 21st century.
April 10th, 2008 07:01
Sex - in a few words (although it is an interesting issue to discuss) was worst and sleezy in the old and older times, don’t want to detail various Monarchs or members of the RF - no Media to cover, but yes a lot of chit chat to the historians, compared to today we are truelly lucky !
April 10th, 2008 07:06
In other words, at those times, but lets say actually - today, Chelsy and Kate would be called mistresses, not girlfriends. But they (older times) did have more than 1 ! Gross, just could imagine the docs trying to figure out a cure for some infections (which misterious colds where never cured)…I’m not going to keep on going in respect of this site, don’t know if minor age people enter, and don’t want to hurt any other poster sensibility, etc.
April 10th, 2008 07:22
if after all these years he has doubts he should just move on
April 10th, 2008 09:06
I think both William and Harry know who and what they both want, but neither will marry until their military service is finished. Their wives will need to be guided in their royal roles, not be left alone to fend for themselves. I believe Sarah and Andrew both said that was the major problem in their marriage.
April 10th, 2008 10:29
Hi Guys,
Reading some of the recent posts leave many questions unanswered.
Consider William and Harry. Both are serving officers, Harry just back from a War zone and William flying fixed wing aircraft and heleopters.
Obviously both are unmarried, but who has considered the effect of an accident. Military planes and helicopters do crash and usually there are no survivors.
Now , again consider William, second in line to the throne and daily flying planes and particularly helicopters, increasing the percentage risk of an accident every time he takes control or travels on military duty.
Who made the decision to allow him to even contemplate risking the possibility of an accident and thus leave him without an heir, not just an heir but the direct heir to the throne.
At he same time that William was starting his initial flying training, the third in line to the throne was in an exposed war zone and could have been the victim of a bomb or a war zone accident. Thank God he returned home safe and sound having done his duty exceptionally well.
Accidents do happen and even if the risk was minimal did anyone consider what could have happened. I doubt it.
Think of the number of unexplained crashes of military helicopters, think of the number of officers and men killed unexpectedly by roadside bombs or stray bullets.
Surely someone must have considered these risks and even if their calculations showed less than 1% risk should both brave princes have been placed in such exposed positions?
William and Harry would not have thanked officialdom for interfering in their military careers or preventing them serving their country and doing their duty but considering the amount of security usually associated with their daily activities surely someone somewhere must have considered the risks involved.
The above may be far fetched but it would be gratifying to know that the risks to the succession was considered.
April 10th, 2008 10:30
I saw the pictures in OK magazine and from what I’m seeing of William and Kate, this girl ain’t going nowhere. They looked perfectly at ease with one another in the photos so I think it’s time to think about the wedding hat for next year.
April 10th, 2008 10:51
Good observation, Will. Something which I expect not many have considered. What would’ve happened had Wills had an accident whilst training and to top it all off Harry got shot on duty we would have ended up with Randy Andy as next in line, who seems to need a helicopter to take him everywhere.
Fingerscrossed they would have done risk assessments prior to the boys doing their activities but as you say the Royals were taking a great risk with one prince learning to fly and the other on active duty. Thankfully both are ok but I can only imagine the outcome had either, or both, been killed.
April 10th, 2008 11:38
I really don’t think the trainning course PW took was to be an ‘operational pilot’, he is getting his wings because he complied with the EFTS (elementary flying training school) ‘navigation pilot’, he was ‘co-piloting the helicops and there is an official statement from the RAF/CH that specified what was/is expected from him during his stay at the RAF.
If I recall PC caused an airplane accident at his time with the RAF. PA went to the Falkland war and so on.
Accidents may happen, yes, thats why there’s a succession line to the British Throne, if anything would have happened during this past four months to any of the two boys, we would have PB, followed by PE, and so forth, and I’m almost pretty sure the British patriotism and pride would withhold with glory, other worse times have happened and look…its the oldest monarchy ALIVE.
April 10th, 2008 13:23
I agree Kate’s not going anywhere, but neither did Camilla.
I’m glad to hear that Isabella was at the event also, she is friends with William, that is nice.
Kate must stay glued to him, like Camilla stayed glued to Charles and William seemssimilar in personality to Pr. Charles, he seems to like a always available woman.
I just don’t think the Palace is sold on Kate yet as bride. I don’t think she’s going anywhere though, she’ll hang on even if he dumps her again, she’ll just wait for him to phone her back up, which he will, because he is Charles part II.
April 10th, 2008 13:45
I agree with Jess and merrick, she is not going any where now. Those pictures prove that as she is seen with his aunt. Mind you, nobody can predict the future. They still do look more like cousins or brother and sister rather than lovers though. I know that sounds strange and illogical but I think they do. Maybe not so much in the latest photos but in others. I’m not saying that because they show little affection. After all I’d rather that they did not but there is just something about them. Perhaps, it is the old friends and more comfortable relationship than passionate side that I can see. JMO.
April 10th, 2008 14:35
Kate will always be a part of William’s life whether they get married or not. Its great that these two could have fun together and helped to raise money for TVB’s younger brother who passed away many years ago. Its interesting that they arrived and left separately unless its a new approach of a mature relationship.
April 10th, 2008 15:04
It could be so that they are not photographed together. But if that is the case why allow the photos from OK magazine? If there were lots of paps, William could have…I don’t want to use the words protect her as I am sure there is a better word but you know what I mean. Like he did last year or the year before, he put his hand on her back and helped her with the press. Surely that would have been loving? Although, they may have been going different ways or left at different times. He would have to go to the RAF base and she could have gone to her flat. Does she still stay there btw???
April 10th, 2008 15:07
hi benign,
Interesting, but there is a photograph of Kate and William in a car outside the nightclub dropping off Harry,Holly and the two princesses.
William arrived with Harry and his cousins but waited at the door until Kate and Holly arrived. Holly went ahead and William took Kate’s hand and followed the party in.
I think that there was some speculation that Kate declined to go into the club as Holly was looked so breathtaking.
April 10th, 2008 15:10
B, maybe William is one of those people who gets embarassed by displays of affection in public. A lot of guys are like that especially in front of their mates. It’s also possible he’s quite a shy guy as well and therefore refrains from using public displays of affection. Whereas Harry is probably more confident than William and therefore isn’t bothered by what other people think and is therefore more likely to kiss his girlfriend in public than William.
April 10th, 2008 15:14
Hi Will, I thought Kate and Wills didn’t go to the club but went home to avoid paparazzi as Wills is trying to keep Kate out of the limelight. Does this picture show that they did go to the club? Or were they just dropping people off? Plus where is this photo, just out of interest.
April 10th, 2008 15:17
Hi Guys,
Seem to be making up for lost days. Sorry for hogging but Liz is out and I’m all alone. (its the first time for weeks).
I think William has inherited his fathers phobia.
Charles did get very anoyed because Diana was more popular than he was and received more press attention.
Over the past two years William shows his annoyance when Kate gets press and public attention and causes friction
April 10th, 2008 15:22
well then it will never work ,because of the way she loves to work the press
April 10th, 2008 15:22
Hi beign,
Your point on William and Kate remaining friends.
If they do not stay together people must hope and pray that one of them breaks that frienship and breaks it very quickly once or if they decide to part once and for all.
Can you imagine the heartache of any girl William takes out knowing Kate is around the corner.
Shades of Diana and Camilla.
April 10th, 2008 15:25
Jenny,
Yet again you are repeating yourself. This must be the xth time you have made that comment even to the grin at the end.
Say it too often and people start to think what is her agenda.
Not a happy position for you to be in
April 10th, 2008 15:33
Jess,
Sorry didnt make myself clear. I was referring to the theatre when I said William waited for Kate and Holly who were just behind him,Harry and their cousins.
William, Harry,the two princesses ,Holly and Kate were in an official car. William and Kate remained in the car and drove off when the others went into the nightclub.
Sorry, will check on publication photograph was in but may even have been oninternet. .It was part of a series of photographs which included a breathtaking photograph of Dr. Branson.
Regards
April 10th, 2008 15:58
Hi Will,
thanks again. I saw a pic of Holly arriving at club but no pics of Will and Kate shown if all three were in the same car plus there was no pic of TVB anywhere so i am guessing he also decided not to attend the after party. Will, have you seen the Cheltenham race pics of Kate, TVB and a mystery guy with them?
i am not too sure of D, C and Camilla part 2. i dont think William would follow his father’s footstep knowing how painful it was for all of them. hopefully, William needs to mature emotional before deciding to get married. And Will, i think there was indeed a fling going on last Dec and dont know if has ended or not.
its so nice to hear from everyone especially the old timers(sorry) and debating without calling each other out..
April 10th, 2008 16:00
B, the OK Mag pics are exclusive pics = to most likely they (OK Mag) paid a large sum of money to the charity to get the exclusive indoor pics.
April 10th, 2008 16:08
Will, Liz is out and your hogging LOL, I love that - she is in truth taking very well of you !!! Cheers
April 10th, 2008 16:08
I only hope Will and Kate marry for the sake that I don’t want to see another love triangle to rival that of Charles, Diana and Camilla. I feel it is the only wa of preventing a repeat. Cos I feel if Wills dumps Kate and marries someone else we could have another Charles/Camilla situation.
Though to be honest I reckon William’ll end up having a mistress eventually anyway whether he marries Kate or not. He’s got a lot of his father in him.
Benign: Interesting to hear of this fling. Who was behind it? Either way it was very well covered up.
April 10th, 2008 16:17
Hi Jess,
Dont recall exactly where i read it but someone mentioned it and it wasnt Will’s post though although it confirmed of what i read. i think William is only capable of flings right now coz he is going away for his RN training so i dont think it would be fair to have relationship right now.
April 10th, 2008 16:19
Fling - doubtfull - the news would have JUMPED quickly to the POT stur stur stur
April 10th, 2008 16:24
^no not really…maybe it might seem impossible to have a fling but not really coz most of the time, we dont know what William is doing except for the ocassionally leaked that we get from the media plus the girls he had a fling with probably dont talk to the media…
April 10th, 2008 16:34
Don’t think he would take that kind of risk, burn your hands on fire that the whoever fling girl won’t speak - too much just for a “fling”. Still very doubtfull
April 10th, 2008 17:37
Hi benign,
Check Cheltenham photograph with guy in funny red hat in Swizzerland who may have been a security guy. . The guy in black said to be Kate’s security man was I understand a ski instructor showing Kate the piste. Apparently she is the best skier in party and did two or three runs before lunch then led William and others afterwards.
There was a reported liaison over Christmas/New Yearwhich was carefully covered up from the American side. William met an American model come society girl who’s relatives have huge influence in USA. They met at a dinner party (possibly at Holly’s place following that Harrod’s visit)) on the night that Kate set off with her parents on Christmas holiday. She returned to US but returned within a day or so then vanished. I understand that some of the cabin staff were in fact on both journeys.
Look guys, I don’t think Kate and William are really into an intimate relationship at moment, well not as intimate as it was when Kate pulled the plug early 2007. They are good friends in the same way as William;Jesica. William;Holly; William X,Y and Z. are good friends.
I also think that William is still trying to persuade Kate to ’start again’ but I think she is reluctant and not just because she was badly hurt by the army barracks incident. I know this is not a popular theory but it may well explain William’s moodyness, sulks and unpleasantness with Kate in late 2007.
I also feel that William, having failed to convince Miss Craig or Miss Calthorpe has realized that Kate is tried and tested and is obviously in love with him despite all thats gone on. He may also love her, a love built up from years of Kate’s kindness,loyalty and security. Remember she did reportedly save his University career.
However as another twist ,can anyone remember a report in June,July 2007 that Kate had told William she wasn’t sure she could become Queen ?
There is just a point here that some of Kate’s detractors may note. Kate turned down tens of millions of Dollars for her story in April 2007. She declined and did so before William came calling again. That may just demonstrate the sort of character Kate is !
So all in all it may well be that any of William’s reported or not reported dalliances may well be above board as he has not yet ‘pulled’ Kate again.
This is all speculation as usual but could explain lots of incidents and behaviour patterns over the past 12-15 months.
Good night. Liz is moaning !
April 10th, 2008 17:59
Jenny does seem to be very repetitive - you’re right Will. There’s so much to discuss so why keep rehashing the same thing over and over again? You must have opinions on other things involving the RF.
April 10th, 2008 18:07
B - In regards to the Church of England and staying “pure” until marriage why pick only on Kate Middleton? Do you think Charles, William and Harry are pure? Don’t think so. Why again is it this double standard for men and women. Sorry but not everyone follows every rule of their church - especially nowadays. I doubt you are going to find alot of “pure” men or women these days prior to marriage. I certainly don’t know William or Kate - I certainly don’t know what goes on in private between them and I doubt anyone else here does. I’m not going to vilify any of these people just because of what the media writes about them. It’s a wait and see situation - the public will just have to wait and see.
April 10th, 2008 18:14
BRW……i love the new spam words. “Grumpy” fits right in with th mood of the posts sometimes. LOL
April 10th, 2008 22:10
I will try and not be so repetative,glad to hear you are doing well Will.AS for kate she is playing a waiting game one she might loose if something better comes along.for her sake I hope her job will see her through if waiting to be a princess(job) doesn’t.As for william when it’s real there is no doubt,or need to cheat.Is it me or is pw to tall to be a pilot
April 10th, 2008 23:21
i think to the person who wrote isn’t about time fo william to act like he love and or wants kate. dear you just answer what he wants.kate isn’t it.just like kate was seeking a fame money opportunity from william. i doubt her effects are genuine.and william shouldn’t feed if he redump for the finally time.you should have stuck to your gun in the first place. that was god probably telling william,kate isn’t miss right. but then again she isn’t royal and that should have told wiliam ,marriage isn’t possible.
April 10th, 2008 23:27
be the truth seems to make american news ,forget that it not possible unless w is willing to give up everything like one of his other family member’s.that american don’t seem to speak of.william is growing into ault hood. and the pressures of kate high imaturity to the realization of who he is and who she is.she is the daughter of coalminer and working claass poor before being rich.rich doesn’t put one inline to marry royal.i mean her fa’s business is children party planner and supplies.in birth kate isn’t with a royal title. williaM’S MOTHER WAS A WORKING MONARCHY A WITH TITLE LADY SPENCER BEFORE BECOMING PRINCESS DIANA.
April 10th, 2008 23:32
Princess diana’s family were of pure royal line on both sides on mother’s and father’s line.She was related to russian monarchy as well as other royal family members. She vacation with the royals in birth and on. She lived and was brought up around.Kate was working class.Not the same commaner as princess diana was commone working monarchy.She had the blood and connection.Just not the wealth charleamily had,but she had more royal blue blood and purer than charle’s.For which makes the boys the real pure royal line and they souldn’t chuck it all away for a commaner like kate middleton.She is not with value of royal.
April 10th, 2008 23:40
Kate seems to be no serious the truth of who she is. Because like so many celeberties,,they can’t run and hide.William shouldn’t feel like even if he doesn’t want to marry kate ,hat he should marry her anyway,because that would be bad for the country and his real life’s hope.My friend says that if princessdiana could have been trained by jackie onassi’s to handle the media she would probably be with us or aleast had a better life understanding about who she really is. And been better for herself and not so many demands that would have kept her from doing so.
April 10th, 2008 23:46
i feel the media is predicting to much in ,what looks like goods friend leaving a relationship ,but too many pr people and noses in the business of william. talk about how he doing in the military if they let you. or remember diana in good stories until the boys have done something great,thats news worthy,their other stories in the news that would take the attention off the boys ao the men inside of them can value the strenth they have.
April 10th, 2008 23:48
I agree with letting them live t life god has for them.So as we vioce only opinion,that is what is.Unless we have real facts towards a opinion. **EDITED - Please turn your CAPS LOCK off when posting comments**
April 10th, 2008 23:57
so many ofthe public doesn’t seem to care for miss middleton. i would hate to see william end up like hs father second marriage.he would have a real title like his father,duke of wales. because he sign papers before marrying camilla’s that removes him the title prince of wales. he is duke of wales and ,he asked his mother ,say that he be called prince of wales until the boys are of age to recieve their names in that title.he hold no bearing on the title prince for he by law married his corpine and she is legal corpine for which only in certain points of his walk abouts and royal duties would she be allowed to be by his side. she does not have rights of charle’s child rearing of the boys ,but can hear only opinion of camilla.but she hold no owner of the boys in royal titles and income or rearing .
April 11th, 2008 00:02
These were things said on tv for ritain to understand were charle’s level of life would be.Would he still be royal or hav guards or and support by the queen of england.Civil service usal means for royal that he or she of royal blood doesn’t have the valued ofchurch and support for the union.But he or she of royal can marry.But not with respect of genuine royal unions.We all saw charle’s second marriage. He had to pay from his own pocket the church fee,carriage and and entire of geust travels orsleeping arrangement.His mother only pay for his small finger sandwiches for his geust.Far cry from lady diana union with charle’.Which one had his mother’s consent.
April 11th, 2008 01:37
what a nice surprise to log on and discover Will has posted!
It’s great that you’r posting again, and hopefully back to total good heath!!!
April 11th, 2008 02:13
Hi Guys,
I’m sure that we have read of the happy celebrations last evening when Prince Charles, Camilla and the student pilots about to receive their wings later today.
Todays event is to be witnessed by the proud parents, girl friends and acquaintances of the new Pilots.
That is all except one.
Check this out, if Kate Middleton is not present later today willit probably lead to the end of their relationship, even their friendship. Kate has taken a lot, but I feel that this slight may be the step too far.
Planned ? You tell me.
The subtle, sly and underhand mandarins at the Palace and Clarence House may get their wish and I wonder just how much William is involved in their plans proably laid down in the summer of 2007.
If Kate walks away after this slight to her and her familly , William remains blameless and his popularity does not suffer.
The next step could be that Kate’s well publicised visit to the US may just coincide with Peter’s wedding next month.
Of course this is just another fancyful fairy tale in the William/Kate scenario but yet again it may be close to true life.
But we do not know, because we are not told
Again lets wait and see.
April 11th, 2008 02:32
In reply to Jade’s post:
Please do not think that I feel that men have the double standard. That is not true, I could have used any of them as an example but I used Kate as she was the person we were discussing. That made my post on topic.
I do not expect any of them to wait until marriage as in general todays society does not. But there are many people who do for their own private reasons. It still does not seem right however for it to be made public. I felt that the article about Ann Summers was a case of TMI. My point was that whilst we do not expect Kate or anybodu else to wait until marriage, I do not think that it is right for these things to be made obvious. Not something to really discuss if you know what I mean. I felt that Kate did not do the right thing by buying those products in public if there was a chance that an article would appear in the press.
Hi Will, how are you? I hope the medics have got back to you and that everything is ok.
If Kate and William are not back together as a couple as much as they were last year, do you feel that an engagement is likely or unlikely to happen?
April 11th, 2008 03:54
Hi B,
It’s really good to be home leading a fairly normal life and doing what I enjoy also reading and writing on BRW.
benign made a very interesting comment earlier when she said that it was so good for the old (her words) commentators to be writing again. To have disagreements in print, but to be able to chat about it without rancour and accept other points of view. That is the basis of our civilised society.
I must say I was very surprised when I started catching up to read some of the comments, really vitriolic, especially about poor Kate Middleton, but what distressed me most was that the comments were made, remaid, and maid again and again. That to me meant that these peopel had an agenda not consistent with the original aims of this site which we love so much. It really distressed me, and for a few days I did have reservations about joining in once again. Liz however in her usual way put me right so here I go again.
My earlier post about Kate’s possible non appearance and the photograph of William obviously at the batchelor’s table whilst one could see the friends and guests of other students at other tables was quite an eye opener.
Then the report that before William goes into the Navy he is to spend two weeks touring the country on Royal and Charitable causes made me think.
If Kate is really in or going to be in his life what a wonderful chance for him to introduce her to his future subjects. However there is no mention of her involvement so lets us deduce from that what it possibly means.
I recall a similar occasion recently when William made a visit to the Royal Marsden Hospital to promote one of his causes and following the serious fire there. Again if Kate is to be his Queen why wasn’t she there ?
Perhaps she wasn’t there because the establishment didn’t want her there and obviously William didn’t want her either because he could have easilly have insisted, that is again if he wanted her to be there.
Perhaps he ,like his father before him, really fears the effect that the popularity of his partner has on the majority of people to his detriment.
Kate may now realise that even though William professes to love her, and has promised to protect her he is of the Royal House and members of that house do as they are told for the so called overall good of the Company, as Prince Phillip put it.
The distressing part of all this is that William has led Kate on and since last April has done all he can to keep her with him, albeit in their private moments. Does he want her as his mistress for ever, dog in he manger style, but not acknowledge her as his Queen. It certainly looks that way.
I repeat an earlier comment; that being born into Privilege also demands Responsibility but he has shown no responsibility in his attitude to a loyal and loving friend.
A word or comment of acknowledgement or commitment from William to Kate would put a stop to lots of speculation and reduce the crazy
reports that come out time after time.
I finish as usual by stating that these comments are speculation from observations because we don’t know what is really happening because we are not told.
Perhaps we are not entitled to know we are after all only his future subjects and all this will be forgotten in the years ahead when William inherits his throne.
Kate who ?
April 11th, 2008 05:29
hi Guys,
Sorry for double post but I have just been directed to a direct attack on Kate Middleton by the Palace in an Australian publication.
It is similar and based on the comments of a retired Palace suit earlier in the week and is said to quote The Queen.
Now is William chance to demonstrate to the Nation his commitment or otherwise to Kate.
If he doesnt come out and support her over this his integrity and moral fibre will be questioned.
He has promised to protect Kate and this is his chance to prove his love or otherwise to a loyal friend, and loving companion.
His reputation is at stake in this matter.
What will he do ?
April 11th, 2008 05:38
Hi Will,
This is the the New Idea article, right?
“Kate Middleton is quickly making enemies amongst influential Palace officials after quitting her job. In this week’s New Idea we reveal why Prince Harry’s girlfriend Chelsy Davy, despite her boozing and cigarette smoking ways has replaced Kate as the most favoured Royal suitor.”
Steven
April 11th, 2008 06:07
Hi and best regards Steven,
Yes together with dirogatory remarks attributed to William
He must come out in her support or face the wrath of a Nation.
Kate has been so loyal and loving to him even rescuing his university career.
Where is his own self respect.
April 11th, 2008 07:10
Will,
Allow me to say welcome back, although I don’t know you really. I only know of everyone’s well-wishes to you and praying for your speedy recovery. I have read your most recent post and I can see why you have been missed. Why you are the voice of reason Will! I, as a Proud American, figure you to be that proper English man we have always imagined was out there!
Thank you for your balanced point of view. Again, I am simply a newbie - but I was very turned-off by those grumpy comments constantly. I am happy to be here.
God Bless You and your family.
April 11th, 2008 07:16
I think that William has to either break up and make a public announcement i.e. we have split up, please leave us in peace, all for private reasons, decided to go our seperate ways etc. That sort of thing.
Or he has to make a commitment to her. If he does neither his public image will take a battering. After he broke up with her last time he was called a “cad” I believe. Although that seems a little unfair as there was two people in the relationship. Both decided to break up as now both have decided to give it another go.
Personnally, I would like to PW just do what he wants to do (within reason of course, I don’t want him to marry Paris Hilton or Jodie Marsh).
Will, I’m glad to hear that you are getting better. Your post was interesting. I have to ask this and please do not feel offended as I have wondered it for a while, do you have contacts with journalists or somebody who knows the couple? You always seem to know the details which I know I never pick up on.
Either way, she has been seen at the presentation as William got his wings. It surprises me that William would invite her, if their relationship was not what it was. It will surely increase speculation that they will get married (a bit unfair really). Do you think that she was there as a good friend then?
April 11th, 2008 07:28
wow isn’t it wonderful that kate gets all the credit for saving his university career,practically doing the whole diana concert with one hand tied behind her back .You would think william had nothing to do with it at all.the fact is he was in the wrong courses for him switched courses,and was fine.All she probably did is beg him to stay.He did the hard work and got the grades.As for will’s last post,I agree he needs to stop dithering,and make up his mind.ps will do you really think km can do over 500 engagements a year.read all your previos posts too .sometimes your with her sometimes your not.best wishes on getting well by the way
April 11th, 2008 14:17
SOUND’S LIKE THEIR TOO MANY PR PEOPLE TRYINT TO GIVE WILLIAM’S TRUE HARD WORKS TO SOMEONE EVERYONE CALLS LAZY.T SEEMS THAT SHE AUT TO BE TOLD OF HER STATION IN LIFE.HOW IS SHE GING TO DOING ENAGEMENTS DEAR SHE ISN’T ROYAL FOR WILLIAM TO MARRY UNLESS HE HAS CHOSEN THEPATH OF HIS FATHER ,WHICH WOULD PUT HARRY FIRST IN LINE TO THE THRONE,NOT THRD OR SECOND. AMERICANS KEEP MISSING THAT UP.CHARLE IS DUKE OF WALES NOT THE FIRST IN LINE,HIS SECON WIFE IS NOT ROYAL MONARCHY .SHE DID NOT HAVE BLUE BLOOD BIRTH OR HER FATHR OR MOTHER THE TITLE OF ROYAL LEANAGE WITHOUT BREAK.HER MOTHER WASN’T TITLE AND HER FATHER WASNT TITLE.SHE IS NOT OF ROYAL BLOOD.
April 11th, 2008 14:26
Times do change DIATRIUNA, C&C received firstly the approval of Parliament followed by a blessing from the Church of England. He divorced, but upon 2nd marriage was legally a widower. :shrug:
Its hard to accept change, but I am one who believes that if a person doesn’t accept change, will be left alone, while those who do are in two groups; the followers and the leaders who cause the change. Thats psychological stuff. Not gonna go further with it.
April 15th, 2008 13:13
I agree with Jess and some other people.
Kate is beautiful, but she only is interested in marrying a crown prince. Whatever this crown prince tells her what to do, she’ll obey him until the day they get married.
http://www.royalanecdotes.com will not post any negative comments on Kate. I wonder if Kate and her family are also funding this website.
April 15th, 2008 13:44
I thought it was Charles that rescued William’s uni career and not Kate. People said it was Kate that persuaded him to stay at uni but infact it was Charles that told him to stick at it and stop dithering. Kate might have had something to do with it but it was Charles that told him to stay they carry on with his studies.
April 15th, 2008 13:53
Jenny, I saw that on RA as well. really one sided don’t you think. How boring!
April 15th, 2008 14:08
Jess it depends on what tab, site you read the PW persuation to complete his University. More than 90% of what you will find when googling is that the tabs, sites give “credit” to KM.
Perhaps, a day to day helps, sometimes fellow students (thankfully well advised) understand you more then the family, a change of subject did help.
April 15th, 2008 14:14
I agree Me. I think I would personally take advice from my classmates rather than my father. PW probably confided in KM more than his father like most young people do.
April 15th, 2008 14:17
Jenny, “she’s only interested in the crown”, I give the girl a 50% shot that she’s in love with PW. KM is not stupid to go blindfolded to the toughest job in the world.
IF/WHEN she marries - after at least me say 5 years, I’ll write to you back and say if “she was only interested in the crown”, but its too soon, she’s a private citizen, when she becomes a public servant - give her the chance to prove her right/wrong; royal engagements, state visits, heir and spair, etc.
She seems to be the type of person that will SUPPORT her Prince as Princess Consort, and who knows, maybe thats what the Monarchy wants - no more Princess Diana stealing the limelight of the entire BRF, including HM.
April 15th, 2008 14:20
I think their are 2 jenny’s on this site :?:,but thanks for the link.
April 15th, 2008 14:24
kate middlton parade ring a bell,better at skiing
than william.
It does seem like a pro kate site.her family must be out of money by now. ha,ha
April 15th, 2008 14:43
Kate Middleton parade ring a bell - no it doesn’t ring a bell, its not her fault that the press and papz MOB her or any girlfriend that is or would be going out with PW, future PoW, future King, most seeked and wanted bachellor around the world.
Better at skiing than PW - yes she is a better skier than PW, and has been said by all the tabs, sites - in equal love her or hate her, but it is so.
It does seem like a pro kate site. There are many sites - pro and con - choose where you wish to comment and opinionate.
Her family must be out of money by now. ha ha - The only one’s that would know their financial situation is the family themselves, banks, accountants,and the likes, as per know we haven’t seen, heard from any media that she or her family are broke, in crisis, or out of money ha ha. Their into the childrens business, expanding into organising kids parties, halloweens, birthdays, etc - talk to Mr. Trump, he may tell you how much money there is into the childrens business - I’m joking here LOL.
April 15th, 2008 14:47
so what did you think of the “moonington’s”?
April 15th, 2008 15:48
I don’t think jack for unconfirmed gossip
April 15th, 2008 15:58
I do feel Kate is very loyal to Pw and her family is as well. She seems very content on being there to support him without upstaging him. What is so wrong with that? There are many wives and girlfriends who do not work. I don’t think that makes them any less of a person. I have always thought she will be happy just being his wife and not trying to steal the limelight from him. It is not her fault the media writes about her more. They would do it with any girl that Pw would date. She just seems very charismatic and doesn’t like to frown in her pictures. Who can blame her? I would rather look good in my pictures unlike unflattering ones like Sarah Ferguson. LOL