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April 12th, 2008 07:38
Princess Beatriz and Chelsy Davy clubbing last night at Amika’s
http://photo.wenn.com/index.php?ref=amika%20celebs%20110408&version=uk
April 12th, 2008 13:26
That’s Chelsy? How can anyone tell. All I see is a head of blond hair.
Was Harry there as well?
April 12th, 2008 15:13
Wonderful job, William. You have made your father and late mother very proud.
April 12th, 2008 16:35
maybe a new and original nickname could help…
Yeah she definetly covered from the papz
April 12th, 2008 20:11
I am pretty sure William’s Father and mother very proud of William receiving a medal from Flight school. It’s very delightful to hear William finished his flight lessons after all.
April 12th, 2008 20:20
HERE’S Prince William getting a rare public kiss from girlfriend Kate Middleton, proving their romance is stronger than ever.
The smacker came at RAF Cranwell in Lincolnshire after Wills, 25, won his RAF “wings.” One bystander said: “There was no holding back. They couldn’t wait to get all touchy-feely.”
Pals also thought it would be a hoot to spray-paint a plastic chair GOLD and put a crown on the back.
Must have heard Wills is air to the throne.
Real exclusive pic
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1304_wills.shtml
April 12th, 2008 20:22
That is a great pic, Me! They look like a normal couple in love even though they are anything but normal.
April 12th, 2008 20:24
Ohhh did you read on what his pals in the RAF did…so funny.
April 12th, 2008 20:27
I did lol
April 12th, 2008 20:55
William’s change of plans DM article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=559300&in_page_id=1770
April 12th, 2008 20:59
Quote
A senior aide said: “He suddenly changed his mind on Tuesday.”
Clarence House confirmed: “There was a change of plan.”
Unquote
This is an official event, so CH does talk on PW’s change of mind ?!
April 12th, 2008 21:02
did you just copy that from another site?
April 12th, 2008 21:03
because i said the same thing…
April 12th, 2008 21:04
typing too fast…thats funny same thought process…LOL’s
April 12th, 2008 21:10
does chelsy and harry attended the graduation?
April 12th, 2008 21:12
I’m quoting the DM article…ain’t need to type, copy/paste of a quote is faster.
April 12th, 2008 21:17
no harry and chelsy did not attend the graduation. its just interesting that CH decided to confirm the change of plans when everytime the CH have been asked, they always says we dont comment on the princes personal lives or something to that effect..
April 12th, 2008 21:52
think she got mad ,and made him change his mind
April 12th, 2008 21:59
nahhh..she didnt get mad. William just decided to invite her thats all…
April 13th, 2008 02:43
It’s strange indeed that CH would confirm a change of plan (whatever that means). They usually don’t comment on the Prince’s personal lives.
I had the suspicion that they had planned for her to attend all along but tried to throw the press off and hence launched the story that she wouldn’t be there. Similarly to the reports that they had cancelled the Klosters trip. And the DM fell for it twice. I’m sure someone there got a whole lot of explaining to do. Now of course they desperately try to cover their backs and make it look like they were never wrong but that the decision to invite Kate was made at short notice. Hard to know what to believe. But who knows.
April 13th, 2008 02:55
What’s going on with Charles and Camilla? I keep reading she’s fed up with royal life, bored with him, bored with his friends, never wanted to get married (she just wanted to stay his lady love), she tells friends she wants to go back to her old life, she’s spending alot of time at her own home, etc. She also described her trip to the Caribbean with him as “a nightmare”. Trouble in paradise? If so and if there’s another divorce for him, he’ll never be King.
April 13th, 2008 04:27
Hi Guys,
Useful walk this morning but itching to start jogging again. Lots of people about with Marathon starting about now.
Hi Trixie, May I say I enjoy your reasoned posts and it shows that you are thinking very deeply and are serious about what you say.
Super.
I’m not going to try to justify earlier posts as what I write I do believe is true, but is mainly based on analysis and yes, reference to people we chat to near home or in office.
However, the first reference in the William ‘flings’ happening was not in the American paper in january but here in London in late August early September. The reference was to a society girl (how I hate that reference) who was seeing W and had approached a well known puplicist to ask how best to continue the liaison without puplicity.
The liaison was nipped in the bud by others but the names were well known in shall we say ‘cafe society’.
In the second Kate was seen socializing at least twice with a guy in the Oxford area ( a couple of photographs did surface with his arm around her) but shortly after that William’s pretorian guard stepped in and thereafter Kate was escorted by one of his friends whenever she was seen out and about.
Can I say here that it was thought at that time that Kate was convinced that it was all over folowing the event at William’s barracks.
There was also the unexplained photograph of Kate and a guy near her Chelsea home and a couple of photographs of a guy and Kate going into her home but I had a gut feeling that it resembled TVS who at the time seemed to spent more time with Kate than William.
As you know Liz and I live just off the Kings Road use local taxis ( “guess who was in the cab last night”) so do see lots, hear lots and possibly talk lots. I also work here and employ staff who work in restaurants stores (even Harrods) to supplement the poor salaries I pay. They have interesting tales to tell.
Last evening Liz and I went for dinner with friends and the general feeling was that the Kate/William story was far from over and that there was ‘ many a slip between cup and lip’ . I was very enthusiastic, Liz saying nothing but some of the negatives were very persuasive. I’ll think on those and may introduce them should there be any confirming events or comments.
The general consensus however was that the friendship would continue but with many months or even years to an engagement without any certainty that it would happen and not just from William’s side either.
It was thought that Kate also had her own devils.
One guy was very positive,insisting that it was already a done deal as the Palace (I’m sure he meant HM the Queen) would not allow so much public exposure with the possibility of a parting and the consequential bad press.
The consequences of Kate walking away was mentioned and it was thought that would be disasterous and result in the most serious repercussions in years to come.
April 13th, 2008 04:40
I’m still confused about the supposed timeline though. If one believes the NY Post story (and I don’t) William and Camilla Al Fayed had a fling last summer (as I understood before he got back together with Kate). So is the fling you are referring to another one altogether or do you mean that the Camilla Al Fayed thing continued till September?
I never saw the pics of Kate and the supposed other guy in Oxford? When was this? I remember the pic of her and “mystery guy” and I honestly never got the fuss that was made about it and no paper picked the story up which leads me to believe that they knew there was nothing to it. Also I cannot imagine that Kate would be stupid enough to allow herself to be seen with a lover in front of her home after she had rekindled her relationship with William.
When did the “barracks” thing you are referring to happen? I only remember an incident from before their split when William supposedly asked a girl to his “barracks”. Here’s a link to this: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/kateflirt.shtml
I agree with your theory that it’s plausible that this incident (if true) caused their split but that was more than a year ago.
April 13th, 2008 06:36
Hi Trixie,
I’ll try to clarify.
It was reported that William originally was seen with CF in April 2007 and did meet up after his return from Seychelles with the report of her contact with the London puplicist and the CH report that if anything had happened it was over.
Also around this time William was seen in Julia’s with a brunette with highlights. It was said to be Kate but the highlights were confusing. This story was quickly dropped but I remember reading that she and Miss Branson helped William chose earings at Harrods ostensibly for Kate’s Christmas present. Kate however had left UK that morning with her parents for the Christmas holiday and I think the recipient of those earings remain a mistery.
I think you have the barracks story and that happened early in 2007and reportedly lead Kate to initiate the breakup which I believe was weeks before the Sun’s story.
I saw both the photograph of the guy near Kate’s home when Kate quickly moved away to her car as the photographer approached .
There are a batch of photographs of the guy entering Kate’s home with her and they are on the Internet but i can’t place them presently. In both instances I had a feeling that the guy was Thomas v S. but can not confirm that.
Your reference to ‘a lover’ is the first time I have ever read that any guy seen with kate was other than an escorting friend and although Kate and William had lots of contacts from july to december last year I do not believe they really connected again until a couple of months ago . I think the sighting after Peter’s 30th birthday of their being together was accidental and lead to William anger at being photographed with Kate
The guy near Oxford was taken near a garden centre/restaurant in April 2007 and at another venue queueing to get into a nightclub. His name was similar to “Storie” but that is from memory. I am sure that one of the commentators on here did have information on him and clarified his name and connection.
He was apparently an actor with Scadinavian connections.
Following those photogaphs Kate was always escorted by William’s friends when out and about.
April 13th, 2008 06:40
Hi,
Sorry for double post.
If I remember the story the guy ‘Storie’ or whatever his name was said to have been an one time escort of Miss Clinton when she was up at Oxford.
That again is from memory
April 13th, 2008 06:57
I don’t believe a thing about a relationship between Wills and Camilla Al Fayed. I don’t think William has been with any other than Kate. Maybe they broke up for a very short while, but not to be with other people. I think people should not write things they know is just something that has been said or reprorted, not soemthing they KNOW is true. Why hurt people who have done nothing to hurt you? Why say things about them that are just mean?
Living in London doesn’t mean that you KNOW much. You hear a lot of gossip maybe, but you know nothing, so don’t spread the gossip as if it was “inside information”,please.
April 13th, 2008 07:48
Trixie,
http://www.theinternetforum.co.uk/nod2383
date on about 18 april 2007
April 13th, 2008 07:53
So Will, do you believe that Kate and William:
a) have strong relationship?
b) may break up in the near future?
c) just casually dating as before?
d) dating with the intent of marriage?
I really value your opinions as you always make sense and have been proven right several times.
Back to the article saying that she was invited a couple of days before hand. I would actually be rather offended if I was a last minute decision like that. I can understand them being hesitant but I would feel rather upset if my boyfriend had said I don’t want you there because you will take the attention from me. I would feel very confused if a few days later he went: alright you can come. I think it gives out the wrong messages about the relationship. So…try not to faint at this as it maybe a first I have said this…but I feel a bit sorry for Kate for that, she must have felt a bit unsure.
Also, did you read the comments at the bottom of the article? I mean I might not be her greatest fan but some comments that I read are becoming horribly. Maybe not on this article but certainly on others. I hope she does not read the comments and take them to heart.
April 13th, 2008 07:53
Typo error…I meant to say horrible..sorry
April 13th, 2008 07:54
I can’t get that link to work Will, can you quote some of the text please.
April 13th, 2008 09:05
Hi B,
i could probably help you with the guy. He is Freddie Sayers and they are just good friends and nothing happened. Can i pick letter C,B? I find it interesting that CH would played down the appearance of Kate by saying they had change of plans. It would have been much better if they said that next week not the next day and i do believe she wasnt invited at first because of the attention she will get but hey William change his mind. I am cynical this morning so it might have something to do with Camilla and Charles receiving bad press lately…
April 13th, 2008 09:09
Its a forum, and the specific mystrey guy is a total stranger taken by the PAPZ, whom the press did not do any press report because there is nothing to report. In that forum the posters try to analyze the pics using there imagination, thus carrying out a gossip story invented by posters. and one in a while they drag the mystery guy. He’s such a mystery that they don’t even know the poor strangers name as of date. Probably immigration only. LOL
April 13th, 2008 09:19
Will, I find you very insightful and your posts really interesting. The things is also is that if what you say is true, about the flings. Then lets face it, the papers would never print it anyway because they have a romance to promote which may lead to a wedding. Foreign media are more likely than the British media to print this sort of this as they’re not so sensored. I suspect that should there be another break-up then any secrets hidden during the course of the relationship may then be revealed. I hope Will and Kate have sorted out their differences now or we could have another break-up somewhere between now and a wedding, that is if there is a wedding.
April 13th, 2008 09:48
In the NOTW pic, why is PW wearing a fatigue outfit instead of a RAF outfit ? That is a real mystery, does anyone here now about military uniforms ?! Cause me thinks that the fatigue outfit is not a pilot outfit….I would say that this was a pic taken from a cel. and after culminating the graduation and you can see they where in the RAF field…according to the official POW site, he will be in the RAF for 3 more weeks, carry out some royal engagement in May plus a holiday leave, then in June to the Navy.
But if anyone can give any insightfull knowledge of the fatigue vs the RAF uniform, please speak, or is the fatigue an extra uniform for RAF exercise and combat use ?
April 13th, 2008 10:09
The NOTW pic looks more like a hug than a kiss. Trust the paps to make a more out of it than it is. Honestly.
April 13th, 2008 10:20
I know that, but its not a paps pic (pap pics are high resolution pics). Its a grimy pic taken from a celullar or small 3.5 piczel cam. Like the ice skating pic.
I’m still curious about the uniform.
April 13th, 2008 10:41
That\’s a good point Me. The uniform looks more like what he wore in the army than the RAF.
RAF uniform:
http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/1021250/0122499750085.jpg
Army uniform:
http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/Prince-William-Army-Training_514021.jpg
Is it a recent picture?
April 13th, 2008 10:50
Hi Guys,
May I try to answere in order;
Benign; Thanks for name but didn’t know him as a friend of Kate as such but I was told they had met up a few times before Pelly et all came to William’s rescue.
It’s the Daily Mail. Say something and sell papers, if it’s wrong blame CH and invent a response. Any one seen official CH response ?
Remember Christmas holiday; remember Kate’s security detail and so on.
Dont you think the back of William seems very like the picture at Windsor when he ‘invented’ the hug. Kate’s clothes match so could be very careful camera work . In other words Computer generated ?
B; (a) Yes I do think that they have a very strong relationship. Think of yourself after 5+ years and almost living together for 3+. They will know more about one another than they do about their siblings. Kate is very much the stronger which may cause problems.
(b) Who could bet against it happening, its very much a cyclic relationship and it has happened before but rescued by one or the other in time.
(c) Whatever happens there will always be a connection but marriage ? I just don’t know and can’t even surmise ? Difficulties ahead though if no rings.
(d)If the proposal is made at the right time and accepted at right time then all could be well . I do think that following an engagement marriage should follow very quickly. Once that happens the vibes between tham will strenghen and grow very strong. They could make a very good couple with each contributing their own particular strength to the whole package.
B , as I said to benign above it’s the Daily Mail. Probably a contact at CH was asked by a reporter if Kate was attending and the usual answer of ‘no comment’ was made. Reporter reads into that what he/she wants and the story is printed. It’s 50/50 and as in the past they know full well that usually they won’t have to correct it later because some other issue will have come up. This time it backfired because other souces picked up on Daily Mail story and then complained. The Mail loked stupid and Sky and BBC got the scoop. I did read that an American News Agency had said earlier that she would be attending but how that came about I don’t know.
benign. Does Kate still communicate with this chap ? He seemed to have an impressive past as he was said to have escorted Clinton’s daughter whilst at Oxford. What’s happened to him ? Is he still about ?
April 13th, 2008 11:18
Freddie Sayers is a friend, the DM reported him to be a friend, nothing else to it as a fact. Anyone may check by googling his name and there is no out of the range, but just friendship gossip story/article about him.
April 13th, 2008 11:30
I was rechecking the NOTW pic, it does look like a photo montage on a more closer look !!! Gasp.
April 13th, 2008 11:42
Nothing has been heard of him lately or anything connected at least to Kate in print. I dont know whether they are still in contact but if they are friends, then possibly they still talk. that internetforum site you quote has some current infos on him and so far he has been busy writing articles for some magazine or a blog of some sort. DM is known to be partial to Kate especially Katie NIcholl so when that article came out, maybe someone did source out that KAte is not going at that time. Somehow i am starting to think that CH might behind some of the bad press Kate’s been getting lately and it might not be consistent but when its fired, it doesnt miss.
Oh Will, dont say the hug was photoshopped or computer generated…its a small phone although its blurry isnt it…..
Health wise, are you ready to go back to work? take care of yourself, Will…listen to Liz..
April 13th, 2008 12:09
Hi benign,.
If Miss Nicholl is partial to Kate and has a contact in CH perhaps she put the wrong slant on the response. If you notice she has been wrong on everything over the past year.
I can’t argue about the bad press. It’s been a view or mine for a time that someone somewhere wants Kate out.
Holiday at Christmas; Kate living with William at CH;Kate’s security detail;William’s graduation; Did she release the story of the Christmas earings ? I do believe that Kate was always going and seems to be under the care of William’s aunt. Interesting that.
Bye the way, what are your thoughts on present situationbetween kate and William ?
Perhaps her contact is pulling her leg or feeding her to confuse issue.
The comment on photograph was not definative but William’s back and the tunic are exactly the same as on the Windsor Park photograph. Check them out.
I’m starting at the office tomorrow but will/may take it easy. I have three good partners and Nicki my PA and Penny who runs my office are super. Liz has threatened them but she will be back in court from Wedneday next so will herself be busy.
We did have a few weeks rest at my Mum’s but the strain of not knowing was worse for Liz than for me. We still don’t have guarantees but at least I’m on my feet, eating well but alcohol is out whilst I’m on medication, and getting back to near normality.
Liz is a brick!
Thanks for good wishes benign they were gratefully received I can assure you.
W
April 13th, 2008 12:17
OK so the fling you’ve been mentioning was with the woman he chose earrings with? I’m sorry but all of this is getting way over my head. He’s seen with a female friend once and that means they have a fling? Similarly for Kate. A man visits her at home (I personally didn’t see the pics of them entering her app. just the one of her passing him by in the street) and that means she has a “fling”??? Btw. I didn’t call him her “lover” because I think he is, but because that’s what he would be if they had a “fling”.
And I also don’t think that the British media wouldn’t have picked a possible romance of William with another woman up. They’ve been reporting about him flirting in the past and they’ve taken up every chance they got to link him to Jecca, Isabella or Holly. The press LIVES of dirty stories like cheating etc. I’m sure if they had any half decent evidence that he indeed had a thing going with CF, they’d print it. A possible affair between Will and the daughter of Mohammed Al Fayed who’s called Camilla is just too good to pass up. While the press might not have to fear any lawsuit from the RF if they printed this story and it’s wrong, I could very well see that MF would raise hell if his (muslim?) daughter’s honor was being belittled by rumours of an extramarital affair – even if it’s one with the future King.Tthey didn’t print it, IMO, because they knew they’d not stand a chance in front of a court. Therefore I don’t think that there’s anything to this. No way would the British papers have missed the chance to print this story if they had any evidence whatsoever. I’m sure they know each other and they might have met before the Diana memorial to which she was invited but I don’t think that there was ever anything more to it than this.
And how a meal with a woman with highlights (whether Kate or not) and him shopping for earrings with a female friend equals a “fling” is beyond me as well. I stand by my POV that he seems to have been faithful since their reunion and did not flirt with other woman.
Sometimes when it looks like a happy couple and it acts like a happy couple it just IS a happy couple.
April 13th, 2008 12:25
I agree that the press towards Kate has been getting more and more negative as it seems. I don’t think that there’s necessarily a “conspiracy” against her going on though. IMO, that’s just the way the press works, first you build them up (and she got a LOT of praise without really doing anything praiseworthy) than you knock them down (hard).
IF they get engaged the tune will change again and after a few years will once more become more negative. Controversy sells papers after all and goody-goody articles don’t sell for long.
And the DM has some serious problems when it comes to their “Royal sources”. They’ve been wrong SO many times this year and I’m sure some heads will roll. It’s embarrassing for them really but I’m sure William is laughing his head of. Maybe he’s feeding them wrong info just to make a point that they have no idea?
April 13th, 2008 13:00
Trixie, yet again – you’ve taken the words out of my mouth.
April 13th, 2008 13:09
He is starting his Navy soon right???
Will it be a constant trip or will he have days off?
Do you remember the pic of kate and the queen together? Im not sure where it was at but isnt it a fake? If so since you guys keep saying someone in CH wants her out couldnt it be the queen or phillip?
I hope that if that is the case that it isnt Charles because in the recent pics he does seem “happy” and that would be wrong to do that to your son
Why do we never see anyhting of them together anymore?
I live in America and we dont get a lot of their news over here. So is it just that it isnt being printed or is it that they arent doing anything together anymore?
April 13th, 2008 13:15
i doubt william could even hane a fling with camilla.
Her brother was in the car with his mother when they died. And some reports say (not saying i believe it) that Dodi and Diana were engaged to be married. If so they would be step brother/sister.
It seems that it would be a little akward to have a “fling” with each other
April 13th, 2008 13:29
Prince William “on the cusp” of true love Mon Mar 24 Yahoo News!
LONDON (AFP) – Britain’s dashing Prince William is “on the cusp of a deeper relationship” with a fellow student who strides the catwalk when she is not hitting the books, the Sun newspaper said.
William, 20, the eldest son of Prince Charles and the late Princess Diana, met Bryony Daniels, also 20, three years ago, and they now see “a fair amount of each other,” it quoted Daniels’ mother Pauline as saying.
An unidentified “friend” of the students added: “They are now very close and are often seen wandering around together” in Saint Andrews, Scotland, where the two attend university.
“It appears like a friendship on the cusp of a deeper relationship,” the friend added.
The Sun illustrated its report with three color photos of Daniels making a catwalk Sunday at a charity fashion show in Saint Andrews, including a crochet bra and sarong outfit.
Daniels’ father David Daniels was reported to be a “wealthy landowner” who lives in Sudbury, in Suffolk in the east of England.
April 13th, 2008 13:32
Me is right, there is something wrong with that picture. For one as Me pointed out the uniform is wrong. William is in the RAF at the moment, but that uniform looks like one he wore in the army.
Army uniform:
http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/Prince-William-Army-Training_514021.jpg
RAF uniform:
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/prince-william-prince-williams-first-solo-flight-at-raf-cranwell-in-lincolnshire-uk-january-16-2008-1FHmHB.jpg
Could the photo just be really old and the newspaper did not know???
Will- Thanks for your opinion. You always come across well and I wondered what you thought of the relationship. I’m glad that you are getting better and that everyone is helping you at work and at home. I hope everything goes well at court for you and that it is not too serious.
April 13th, 2008 13:35
Introducing, Isabella Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe:
Pretty as a picture with a great brain tipped to be the future Mrs. Prince William. Isabella is no fairytale princess:she might be squeaky clean, but she’s no bore. To make her happy, buy her chocolate, jewellery, and anything pink.(from Tatler)
She is a sunny-faced, 19-year-old blonde, and a student at Edinburgh University, which William is expected to spend at least some time at in the next few years. She is said to be an accomplished stage performer. Her grandfather was one Earl Curzon, who before World War II cut a dash as a racing driver.(ITN)
Katherine Bearman :
So beautiful she gets to sit next to Prince William at parties and hangs out with his set at the K-Bar. Her filthy sense of humour is legendary and she’s as stubborn as a mule. Potential suitors should be careful not to cross her fiercly protective brother Christian. (Tatler)
Tara Palmer-Tompkinson : E! Online and Seventeen Online, have similar reports. They both said Tara have been seen around with Wills at parties and other outings.
Guess what? Tara wrote an article in response to all the controversy surrounding her conduct around Wills and Harry.
In a British Society Magazine, (Nov. 1999), she said, “That is so far from the truth. I am a drug addict, not a paedophile.There is so much mystery attached to that family that people like to think they know what really goes on.I’ve messed around with lots of friends both young and old by the pool, with everyone playing striptease and debagging one another – public school slang for tearing off a victim’s trousers. But then the disease ‘rumourtism’ kicks in, and instead of 10 people clowning around, you have only two. And then it suddenly becomes really serious – and before you know it, you’re branded a sexual deviant. William is a mate, but that’s one thing I’m really not going to go into.”
It is said that Tara Palmer-Tomkinson has been banned from going on holiday with Princes William and Harry. The person that spoke to the press said that this comes after the royal trio became embarrased by her antics. In a quote they said, ” They are teenage boys,and like all boys of that age are senstive about such blatant behaviour. They squirm when she gets up her antics.” Rumored antics of hers include last summer when she took off her bikini top in front of William and encouraged him to look at her- Tara is said to have thought it hilarious, but shy William simply turned away. On another break in Kloster’s, Tara infuriated Charles when she launched herself on to William’s lap. Supposedly, and embarrased William fought her off and left the room.
April 13th, 2008 13:35
William 20, cute, 5 years ago !
Wills is to start the Navy in June, If I recall, he will be stationed for training at BRNC Dartmouth. He still has to complete (according to official statement from CH) 3 weeks with the RAF, this including Royal Engagements and some leave. So during the remaining 45 days (half of april, may) he will be RAF + Royal Engagements + Leave time (Holiday). Perhaps during the Navy stint, after all, he will probably be going in/out to do his royal duties.
Nevertheless, I just checked the PoW site, Royal Archives, Royal Navy site and there is no detailed info as of yet.
April 13th, 2008 13:43
i no that stuff is old i was just trying to find out thing on past girlfriends.
April 13th, 2008 14:50
Tara PT spent time with William, Kate and Charles in Klosters this year. There are pics.
April 13th, 2008 16:25
Is it true that william refuses to be king?
April 13th, 2008 16:53
He personally denied that (those) reports in an interview last year.
April 13th, 2008 17:59
Hi Guys,
Tara PT was skiing in Switzerland but spent most time on the slopes with Charles not William who was othertwise occupied with Kate.
As a matter of interest it’s reported that William was at a stag party on IOW with Army friends including his brother.
I would have thought that the IOW was too close to Bourenmouth for Kate’s liking
April 13th, 2008 18:25
why doesn’t she like Bourenmouth
Who’s satg party 
April 13th, 2008 18:26
stag,sorry!
April 13th, 2008 18:59
http://thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1036825.ece
PRINCE William dropped his trousers and downed pints of bitter as he and brother Harry gave their royal cousin a boozy stag weekend to remember.
The infamous drinking duo joined Princess Anne’s son Peter Phillips for a 72-hour bender.
And at one point they were so boozed up that they LOST him.
read on…
Jenny, Stag mean an all guys thing, no women, they where celebrating Peter’s last bachelor days, called Stag Party, seems to be an all weekend – all guys thing. Fun and Cool !
April 13th, 2008 19:02
hope nobody got pictures .how bad would that make the future king look.
I know what stag means,but thakyou for the link.
April 13th, 2008 19:02
It doesn’t have anything to do if she likes it or not, simply reported that he (PW) together with PH, Peter and its an all guy thing = Stag.
April 13th, 2008 19:05
Check out the Sun, there are funny pics, probably more to come ! I wouldn’t be surprised if Autumn also had her stag all girl party, reminds me of a funny movie I watched that had an all English do.
April 13th, 2008 19:06
Didn’t the article mention a girl ,back room,and drinking games
April 13th, 2008 19:08
Wow they sure can party.
They are lucky they didn’t kill the stag with how much they gave him to drink.
April 13th, 2008 19:17
Ha ha ha, I don’t think they put Mike Tindall to drive
April 13th, 2008 19:59
the saga continues
these ceremony photos are the first in many months where William has not appeared sullen, angry, cynical, etc….in kate’s presence
the notion that he proposed in the fall and was turned down is certainly plausible in explaining his demeanor….
all along i’ve thought william had all the power in the relationship and kate was just waiting and hoping, but that may well not be the case….she would certainly be justified in wanting to be cautious about marrying william and taking on the burdens of that role
will, it’s so great you’re feeling so much better and posting, your posts are always so reasoned and civil
April 13th, 2008 20:25
The Daily Mail also reported the Stag weekend for Peter, but they don’t have pics like the Sun.
Anyway for those who want to read on…
Wills and Harry give cousin Peter Phillips decidedly unroyal stag do
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=559497&in_page_id=1770
April 13th, 2008 20:44
Perhaps ! Sounds like a Catch 22.
I prefer to royal watch on.
April 14th, 2008 01:29
Jenny – I’m just curious. You seem to be very goodnatured about William dropping his trousers, he and Harry boozing and partying for 72 hours straight, girls at the stag party, etc. So why are you so harsh with Kate over some things she may have done several years back?
Sounds like Wills, Harry and their mates are pretty wild when they want to be but if you accept what they do, why give Kate a hard time?
Personally, I think William in particular is quite the boozer and he and Harry love to party and flirt. But heaven forbid someone like Kate or Chelsy does anything like this – they get condemned beyond belief.
April 14th, 2008 01:35
Based on the marital track record of the royal men in the BRF, including mistresses and serial cheating, I would be very, very cautious about marrying any of them. You know, Charles for example, feels it is his right as Prince of Wales to have a mistress just like his predecessors. It’s sort of similar to the men in the Kennedy family – most of whom cheated left and right on their wives and still do – they believe it’s their right to do so and that started all with the father, Joe Kennedy Sr. Prince Philip has supposedly had his share of affairs, Charles obviously had affairs and of course had Camilla as his mistress, so why wouldn’t their sons think much differently? Just an observation.
April 14th, 2008 01:42
Please leave Jenny alone. We all moaned at her for talking about one thing, I don’t think that it is fair that we now moan when she does not mention it.
She probably just did not want to start a debate. Besides, its a stag-do it is expected then.
April 14th, 2008 08:46
wills, you make your mom proud! the sad thing is she can’t available in there, but i’m sure she watching you in heaven with she’s smiling! honestly, you not just make your family and your lover proud but you make me more Loooveee youuuu ever after, Babe! Muah Muah Muah 1000x! everyday especially when i wake up in the morning, your face appear in my head! i know this is look like crazy for me & you, maybe ha..ha..i need more wet tissue if i see you & your lover married next year hiks..hiks..
April 14th, 2008 16:52
About the notw photo. I kind of think it is real maybe after the ceremony he was in his fatigues (more comfortable) about to leave. it does look like it is from a cell phone
April 14th, 2008 22:15
im speaking generally to people, dont get mad of me:) generally speaking kate middleton knows what is right between wrong! Dont too be judgeful on her acts! dont over re act, if there is one or two people who know who kate middleton , thats the prince and her family. and friends. if kate is an ordinary people, when he met the prince,.!
April 14th, 2008 22:15
she’s like other people.
April 14th, 2008 23:01
B – I was asking Jenny a very legitimate question. No reason why you need to get involved – Jenny can speak for herself.
April 15th, 2008 02:48
I know that Jade but what you said has started a debate. You were deliberately picking on jenny and I do not feel that it was fair on her. She has the right to say her opinion as much as you have ours. But as I said above we cannot moan when she says something and then moan when she does not. In my opinion, your comment to jenny was totally unnecessary. But let’s leave it there.
Back on topic: Have we found out why William was wearing an army jacket yet? Still, it was good to see them together as she was supporting William.
April 15th, 2008 09:28
about the military uniform, every job in the raf requires you to wear the same uniform the only time it changes from blues is a flying suit, wearing combats, and nurses still wear whites. However, you can wear whichever you choose flying suit or fatigues. I believe he chose fatigues out of comfort. I believe this is accurate.
April 15th, 2008 12:37
I’m confused. I thought that the fatigues was part of the army uniform not the RAF.
April 15th, 2008 13:10
I believe fatigues are part of every military branch but I could be wrong. Any help?
April 15th, 2008 13:29
prince will you are so nice work and then please take care with kate she pretty and smart wonderful lady women, prince will please don’t broke up with kate ok i know she lazy but she doing to be fine soon and get together and marry her buy new big house, prince william i like her she beautiful………angel,
April 15th, 2008 13:41
B – Will you please leave it alone and if Jenny wants to address me personally, she has every right to do so. Why you are taking it so personally is beyond comprehension. I don’t wish to discuss this with you any further. My question was directed at you. She can speak for herself, I’m sure.
April 15th, 2008 13:56
Ive read alot of posts where you constantly talk about Jenny. I think that is why B is taking it personally. JMO
April 15th, 2008 14:17
you know how they call charles,and Camilla
“The grumpington’s”
now they can call william,and kate
“the Moonington’s”
That was a joke Jade,I’m fine I am a big girl ,I can take a little critism
April 15th, 2008 15:54
Jenny – no criticism of you. I had just asked you a question in a prior post and B got all over me for it. Actually, they always called Charles and Diana “The Grumps” and now they call Charles and Camilla the same thing. Why am I thinking that some of it has to be Charles’ fault? If Camilla can’t put up with him, nobody can. But now we know that Wills and Kate want to make asses of themselves (just a joke and a little pun) we can call them “THE RUMPS”.
April 15th, 2008 15:57
MADDIE – Jenny and I understand each other as you can tell by her recent post to me and mine to her. As she said, “I’m fine, I am a big girl, I can take a little criticism.” Perhaps you Maddie and B could learn a lesson from Jenny. She and I can agree to disagree and for the last time, I wasn’t criticizing Jenny but now you and B are all over me so why don’t you both just cool it please.
April 15th, 2008 16:01
Snappy ouch
April 15th, 2008 17:39
Thank you, but I don’t need any lessons from anyone.
April 15th, 2008 18:30
jade ”the rumps”
April 15th, 2008 21:55
Maddie – ever heard the term, “Mind your own business.” I was addressing Jenny, not you and Jenny has no grievances with you. She can take care of herself and comment on her own I’m sure. Why do you keep getting involved and firing off silly comments? Just drop it already. End of discussion. Everyone is entitled to make comments on this sight and it’s childish to think one person can’t address another person without a 3rd party getting involved and causing problems where there are no problems.
April 15th, 2008 21:56
I meant to say, Jenny has no grievances with me. If she does, she knows she is free to express them.
April 15th, 2008 21:58
Jenny – How about this one: Instead of “The Rumps” how about Rear Admiral William Wales – emphasis on the Rear.
April 15th, 2008 22:40
opposites atract… Jade and Jenny, Will and Me LMAO
April 15th, 2008 23:06
OK this is a joke and does not mean to offend anyone but what if it is their penchant for showing their respective derrieres (sp?) to people that is keeping them together???
Maybe they are both exhibitionists which would explain quite alot actually. But truthfully who does that???
I mean they have long grown out of their teens, as well as their school days – they should really figure out that they are now adults and thus should act with a little more decorum then they have been previously portraying, especially HRH Prince William – he obviously has no idea of what he can achieve – all the good he can do – and is far to preoccupied getting drunk and expressing himself in distasteful ways.
Honestly dont you all think that he, along with his brother Harry can do so much good, if they just put their minds to it. They can god has smiled down upon them and given them this wonderful opportunity to make a difference and they are just wasting it.
Not everyone gets to be in a position like that and they should use it not waste it away or do token gestures to appease the wider public.
Token gestures indicate a lack of character and dedication to their work.
Please if you are reading this do not be a token person – because token people are jokes and you are so not – you are way more than that. Just take it seriously and become an example to your people not a joke.
April 15th, 2008 23:15
I am not in any way shape or form championing marriage for either of the Princes.
I believe that marriage is an institution that both parties have to be fully committed to, not because it something they have yet to do or feel that everyone is pushing them into.
I also think that they shouldn’t get married (if they ever do) until after they are 30 because there is no way they are mature enough to accept the responsibilities that marriage entails.
On a maturity level these people are still way back in their teens – by their age we should be looking at mature adults not people that want their teen years to last forever.
Also all that drinking, smoking and whatever else they do can’t be good for their health. Perhaps they should consider the long term ramifications of their actions before partaking in certain things.
It might a laugh now but in 20 years when you are dying of lung cancer or liver failure or something else related to this behaviour it wont be funny.
Also say they do indeed live to 100 (unlikely due to their current conditions) would you really like articles written about something so highly embarrassing then???
I know that i wouldn’t.
Please Please Please have a little more respect, not only for yourselves but also for other people and remember that you are rolemodels and examples whether you like it or not and so should take the right path – walk a straight line – not a drunken wobble. It would be so much better for your public image as well as the amount of respect you will be shown.
April 15th, 2008 23:22
Take the example of HRH Prince Harry. When in Afghanistan the story went out that he had given up cigarettes – a huge achievement for someone who has been apparently addicted for nearly a decade and smoking a pack a day.
The level of respect heightened. Then when it was revealed that he had been serving his country – wow did his popularity and level of respect go through the roof. People had so much respect for this former party animal.
The excursion to Afghanistan gave him an opportunity to make over his image into a serious, committed person but then what did he do?
He went on holidays, kept smoking, and got drunk on a number of various occasions. Not good stories to be spreading for his apparent war hero image.
I no that he probably doesnt care but he should. I don’t think that that is the nicest image to have to contend with especially if he wants to pursue publicised charity work – people wont take him seriously. They will think it a token effort, and thus it will badly impact his image.
I reckon that in a year his public reputation will be down the gurgler again. (Excuse the colloquialisms) but its true.
April 15th, 2008 23:24
I did not mean to offend anyone i just think that in respect to their public image there are some areas that both of the Princes should work on.
I understand that they are merely mortal – normal people given extraordinary opportunities.
But again i feel that they are not making the most of the gifts they have been given and instead are spending to much time resenting it.
Just let go and enjoy what god gave you.
You are there for a reason – get used to it and make the most of it.
April 15th, 2008 23:35
I also think that all this drinking, especially in relation to certain articles that mention the price of the certain beverages they are drinking or where they are staying, namely Katie Nichol, makes alot of people feel resentful of them.
That normal, ordinary, people are stuggling to pay the bills, and ahev to scrimp for every penny and there go two people who seemingly have no respect for money and what it can buy, go blowing it on alcohol.
This blow your money on alcohol mantra seems to be in line with the wider feeling of binge drinking yobs. Perhaps these two people feel that they are the Princes of Bingers?
Thats not a very good title to have. They should work on that.
I am not in anyway saying that they are or that they are to blame for the epidemic of binge drinking but what i am saying is that this is something that should be looked into by their image people their PR teams.
I think whilst they are entitled to have fun and act like normal people they should take into account what sort of impact their behaviour is having on not only themselves, their health, their family and the people around them and because they are in such public positions they should think about what their behaviour is saying to a wider audience.
Again hitting on my thesis that these two (and their cousins etc) have are incredibly naive to the ways of the world and do not seem to care that people think they are jokes.
Also it is time that certain people started working for their money. The British taxpayer, is i am most certain, sick of paying not only for the civil list (i no the money from the civil list is paid for by the income from the crown estates but it is still in essence tax payer money or atleast it is perceived to be) but also for the numerous security arragements put in place for the perceived security of the involved.
Also i think that people who do not have a public role and do not work for their respective HRH’s and bodyguards should not be entitled to these priveledges.
April 15th, 2008 23:36
it is time people it is time.
April 15th, 2008 23:41
how long has HRH Princess Beatrice been on her so called gap year for?
Its like two years now isnt it?
Thats pathetic – has she even done anything other than get drunk and waste taxpayers money on meaningless security??
O and travel the world, at certain points at the taxpayers expense.
Also i apologise if its only been one but i am pretty certain that its nearly two because she is 4 months older than me and i have been finished full-time schooling for almost 2 years now.
Poor Beatrice. Grow up. You are twenty in like 4 months. It is time to get your act together.
I am certain you never will however because you do not have to. Its not as if you have bills to pay or worries or responsibilities or anything like that. All you are here for is to get party. i get it.
Life isnt worth living unless your drunk etc etc
April 16th, 2008 02:44
INTERESTED – You’re right – Beatrice is going to be 20 years old this August so basically her gap year has been just about 2 years. I really don’t know that she’s done very much except visit orphaned children in Russia with her mother and supposedly she was planning to spend part of the time on work experience in New York, where her mom has an office but I haven’t heard much about that. She was also planning to organize a charity trip to Africa (aren’t they all) but didn’t hear much about that. She seemed to have gotten excellent grades in history, drama and filmmaking and is apparently appearing in a small, none-speaking role in the film, “The Young Victoria” based on Queen Victoria. Her mother is one of the executive producers and Martin Scorsese is directing the film.
Other than that, she goes out with her boyfriend, Dave Clark, whose father is a wealthy American.
Go figure – when I was 20 I was working full-time (2 jobs), had my own apartment, and did volunteer work in my spare time as well.
I was a party girl back then too but I took care of myself financially and worked hard.
So I really don’t get what’s with royals such as Beatrice and her sister, Eugenie. Although, Eugenie just turned 18 so we’ll see what she decides to do. Personally, I think these gap years are kind of ridiculous for most of them, although William did some good work during his gap year.
April 16th, 2008 04:25
Hello everyone!
I thought that Beatrice only got her A levels last year because she took her GCSEs a year later due to her dyslexia (sp?). That would mean that her gap year has only been for one year not two.
April 16th, 2008 06:23
Thankyou Jade.
I thought she was but i wasn’t quite sure. They don’t seem to do much do they. I personally attend university and work 4 jobs, as well as volunteering within the community during my university breaks.
I know that everyone deserves to have fun, but not at the expense of other people. I just think that they should be mindful of others, especially disgruntled tax payers (not that i am one myself mind – disgruntled that is. I definitely pay tax!!!). I just feel that there is no so called security risk on Beatrice, so she and her sister should not get the security that other more public members of the royal family are entitled to receive.
April 16th, 2008 07:24
Welcome to all new visitor’s!
JMO
Funny comment Jade
Joke:you ,interested,and Bambi make alot of good points.If prince william,and Harry to are in such fulfilling loving relationships why are they constantly binge drinking
April 16th, 2008 08:07
JADE You were addressing me when you said I should take a lesson from Jenny. You seem quite defensive when I was just giving my opinion. Nobody was firing off at you we were just expressing our opinions like you do. NO NEED TO BE SO RUDE. You really should go back and read your own comments. I won’t be addressing this anymore either.
April 16th, 2008 10:36
KM tuesday night Cocoon Restaurant then Bouji with her family Michael, Carol, Philippa, no mention of brother James.
As a point of interest: Tuesday nights at Bouji Members Club are special private nights with guest list. If your not in the guest list, you just don’t go in.
The article doesn’t mention what they where celebrating or who’s celebration what or who’s invite it was, it just mentions what the insiders so from the Middleton Family.
Read on…
http://thelondonpaper.typepad.com/thelondonblog/2008/04/kate-middleton.html
April 16th, 2008 10:39
Pics of Kate, Carol, Pippa and some unknown guy leaving Bouji at tuesday night 12:30 a.m.
http://photo.wenn.com/index.php?ref=kate%20middleton%20boujis%20150408&version=uk
April 16th, 2008 11:31
Kate looks great! Her parents must be pretty cool. I love it that her family seems so close. I bet William must really like that about her family. It is easy to see why he would be drawn to her. Thanks for the link Me.
April 16th, 2008 11:32
Since William has decided to party all weekend it’s no surprise that Kate decided that she’d like to party as well. Strange though how the entire family came along. What’s the occasion?
April 16th, 2008 11:49
The “unknown guy” is Kate’s brother James. I’m sure he’s very sad that he’s the only Middleton noone recognises.
April 16th, 2008 11:50
Right! I was shocked her parents went to Boujis though. I would love to know what they were celebrating.
April 16th, 2008 11:53
He looks different. I guess I haven’t seen any recent pics of him .
April 16th, 2008 11:54
Whatever it is the motive of celebration, this years KM outing has strictly been other then the Afrika Afrika and Cheltenham, with her family.
April 16th, 2008 12:00
So true! Even celebrating her birthday with her family. What do you make of this?
April 16th, 2008 12:03
I don’t think it’s so very surprising Kate’s parents would fit into Bouji. I once read it’s the kind of club investment bankers and rich lawyers etc. would attend so I guess the average age might be a bit higher than in a usual club. And Kate’s mom definitely doesn’t look her age. They left at 12.30 according to this article:
http://thelondonpaper.typepad.com/thelondonblog/2008/04/kate-middleton.html
So it wasn’t a very late party night either (no comparison to Wills weekend
)
April 16th, 2008 12:09
He definitely had a wild weekend thats for sure.
April 16th, 2008 12:10
Right Trixie, I also googled to have more information about Bouji, and Tuesday nights are more of a private guest list night. Its not an ordinary friday or saturday usually packed night. I mean who would go to a club on a tuesday night – private celebrations via guest list.
What do you make of this ? I don’t know Maddie, I’m out of ideas or guessing – the only sure thing is that the past 6 months KM has kept herself in a low profile – out of the limelight. But yes I have noticed that since the whole Middleton family took of for Christmas as a closely tight family – she has been sharing with them very much as of late. Is there something Royal coming in the way ? and she’s trying to spend all the max time with her family ? many questions, but yeah speculating…don’t like to do that much anyway.
April 16th, 2008 13:29
If KM and PW were to marry, would she spend holidays ever with her parents or would her parents be invited to holiday with the RF? How does that work?
April 16th, 2008 13:42
Some have stayed in the COTTAGE at Balmoral, Sandringham and the likes – Separated but close together, weard.
April 16th, 2008 17:45
not to defame James’ reputation, but there is a whole thread here about how James Middleton enjoys cross-dressing parties. How do you think that would go down?
http://theinternetforum.net/royalforum/index.php?topic=30115.0
April 16th, 2008 17:53
especially page 13.
April 16th, 2008 18:44
dressed up as a french maid
oh this will help km win over the Queen.