Prince William & Kate Middleton: Wedding of the Century
An Australian magazine has gone out on a limb announcing the upcoming marriage of Prince William and Kate Middleton.
The Aussies have also claimed Kate as their own, labelling her “Our new princess”.
The magazine tantalizingly promises “All the details inside…”
“Wills and Kate: The wedding of the century
Royal insiders are in agreement — Kate Middleton is set to finally walk down the aisle with long-time boyfriend and heir to the throne, Prince William.
Woman’s Day brings you all the inside details on the wedding the world has waited for…”
The May 2008 edition of the magazine is currently on the newsstands.
April 28th, 2008 05:24
Hi Guys ,
This is just the sort of publications William’s side do not want to see.
I do hope that it doesn’t hurt or compromise their relationship in any way.
Leave them alone, let them get on with it as and how they want to.
April 28th, 2008 06:09
Oh, so Lovely couple, make me jelalous of course! i wanna cry if see both of them marriage someday hiks..hiks..my destiny is Wills is not my marriage partner hiks..hiks..oh i wanna killed my self!
April 28th, 2008 06:14
Nice pic in the cover, I agree Wills. Hope it’s not a bad omen like the last years comemorative plates.
April 28th, 2008 06:46
I agree Will this sort of publication could do the couple more harm than good. Instead of William heading down the aisle he could turn and bolt the other way. It\’s way to risky. If the press want a wedding they need to leave the couple alone to decide when and where they\’ll marry. Or it may not happen.
April 28th, 2008 06:56
I hope PW has passed matured and accepted that the media will always be on his back with which ever gf he has, and doesn’t do a U turn just because of the ‘media’. He really needs to accept that they will always be there looking for the gossip or speculate on his whereabouts.
April 28th, 2008 07:09
Even so this is a gossip magazine people so I wouldn’t take it seriously if I were you.
April 28th, 2008 07:12
I still remember an article from last year in an american magazine about a 65 million pound wedding,they really should wait for an anouncement.they are going to loose all credibilty
April 28th, 2008 07:35
The media has measured that, they don’t loose readers, why, because its pure speculation…its the authors opinion. People love gossip, they buy gossip, speculation, guessing, horoscopes, tendencies, people want to know what the author of such speculation thinks or why he/she thinks the prediction will come true, everyone has speculated.
April 28th, 2008 07:37
I would’t be aware that these kind of publications had any credibility in the first place.
I also cannot imagine that William is bothered by gossip in an Australian women’s magazine. Maybe he cares what the British tabs write to a certain degree but I doubt he pays attention to the foreign press let alone the foreign tabloids even if they come from Commonwealth Realms.
April 28th, 2008 09:12
I still believe they will announce their engagement soon((still think they are secretly engaged) and a wedding will not be far off. Again, me speculating. I think they are more solid now since the alleged breakup. I don’t think wills will run for the hills this time around.
April 28th, 2008 10:29
That is a nice picture of Kate and William but I think that the pressure may get to William again.
I believe that they are both in love but I do not think that a marriage will take place soon. They have broken up so much in the past that a couple of years solid relationship would just prove that they can work together. I think they both need a bit of growing up to do, more William than Kate as Kate appears to have grown up from her party stint last year.
We have had these articles for years though and it has not happened. I will only believe in an engagement when it is announced by Clarence House.
April 28th, 2008 10:40
I agree B.
This has been reported over and over again, no proposal or announcement from Clarence House ever materializes.
Very few modern day (future) Crown Princes have married in their 20’s.
April 28th, 2008 11:19
This is one of the things that people shouldn’t pay much attention to but I don’t think it’s mean spirited or just gossip but people are very excited over the relationship of William & Kate and that is understandable. I also think the media is getting ahead of themselves. People should remain patient and let William & Kate handle this. I don’t think the pressure will get to William, as we can see they are in a more mature time in that relationship and they know that people want to see them walk down that isle but again they will do that on their own time. Will, you said it right. Leave them alone and like I said, let them handle this.
April 28th, 2008 12:09
Hi Guys,
Well isn’t that very bold of that magazine. I don’t think anyone will take this too seriously nor will William & Kate. Claudius and Will, I do agree. But I have to admit, it’s funny to see this story and sooner or later it will all be true.
April 28th, 2008 12:44
or it won’t.
April 28th, 2008 12:52
This takes me back to last year where there we engagement rumours all over the place and some shops already had their memorabilia ready and then Wills and Kate split. Looks like noone has learnt anything. Don’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched. Anything could happen bt these two over the next year or so. A wedding may well happen but at the same time a break-up shouldn’t be ruled out either. Noone can predict the future no matter how hard they try.
April 28th, 2008 12:59
I’m more worried about “Katie sent to Scientology Boot Camp” (in the cover) LOL, couldn’t resist.
April 28th, 2008 13:26
Me
verry funny!
April 28th, 2008 13:42
Hi Guys,
Super to see contributions consecutively from B,merrick,Claudius,Rman and Me. Pity benign hadn’t contributed to complete what may be considered the ‘old firm’ . Sorry Jess no slight on you intended but I do associate the other names with long standing association, and sometimes well meaning but friendly conflict.
Trixi is also a new name for whom I have respect.
Although I think that William and Kate have that special something together I am not fully confident that there will be an engagement and subsequent marriage perhaps for many months, even perhaps years, or perhaps never.
William is William, and Kate has clearly demonstrated that she is content to accept her life with William in its current way.
Yes it would be super if it happened but William has centuries of Royal Genes which may make it difficult for him to commit to his lady for life, whilst Kate appears to have that solid and yes , middleclass value which demands a lifetime of commitment once given, faithfulness to partner in marriage “until death do us part.”
As his friend and consort she has now come to accept William’s frailty but as his wife she would ,I think, demand his loyalty and faithfulness and that may prove a disaster to their marriage which would not be acceptable to the RF and the establishment.
When one thinks back, it was no accident that for centuries Royal married Royal as that was conducive to lasting marriages as both had same expectations and turned a blind eye to affairs and mistresses that were kept secretive and away from their homes and families.
Those relationships can not be kept secret these days.
So, although I hope and , yes even pray, that I am wrong my reasoning makes me believe that engagement and marriage are a long way off.
I shall be so happy to come on here and eat humple pie and celibrate more that most if things turn out well for Kate and William.
April 28th, 2008 13:51
The most important thing is that when William decides to get married, it will be because he has sown his wild oats, is ready to make a full commitment to wife and children, and not going to follow in the footsteps of so many of the Royal men by taking a mistress at some point. He himself really must know when he is ready - no magazine, no newspaper, no member of his family or public pressure can decide this for him - it’s something he needs to realize on his own and say to himself, “I’m ready to have a wife and family and be in a completely committed and monogamous relationship.” It doesn’t matter if it’s Kate or another woman. So people need to back off on him and on Kate or you’re going to see another Charles & Diana or Andrew & Fergie or Princess Anne and Mark Phillips - let’s face it folks - the Royals don’t have a great track record for healthy, stable marriages. Let Wills take as long as he needs and if Kate isn’t the one, then they both need to move on with their lives.
April 28th, 2008 14:51
Guys,
That is true that people need to back off but Will, I do think you are reading too much into this but I know you will like to see a happy royal wedding. Jade Falzon, I think William has seen too much saddness in his parents marriage to take up a mistress himself. I don’t think that it is in his spirit anyway. They are just happy the way things are and that’s great. If Kate don’t attend the charity dinner this week, I surely look forward to the wedding in May.
April 28th, 2008 14:55
Also, people are always thinking that William is not ready to get married right away but it may just be Kate who is not ready but I we can tell that they are just taking it one day at a time.
April 28th, 2008 15:45
Hi Guys,
Hi Rman, must disagree.
Kate was ready to marry William two and a half years ago and was mature enough to handle marriage and have his children.
William now is not the William of his student days in Aberdeen , not the William Kate initially fell in love with.
At University they had a idealistic live, an embargo on newspapers, and just the two of them and their flat mates. Really wonderful weekends at the Tea Pot House, then after leaving Aberdeen William changed. He met other beautiful women like the actress and then the Kenyan Jessica.
Ideally that was when they should have parted and got on with their lives separately. If William had not then married either of the two ladies he expressed a preference for then perhaps about now Kate and he may well have met up again.
Kate really loved William and when he had been turned down by both ladies, and turned down he was, he turned again to the safe loving Kate and she went back to him.
William relies on Kate. Not just as a lover, but as friend, a companion, even possibly as a substitute for his mother.
When they parted early last year it was Kate who left William and at that time she really felt that was the end because she initiated the break up following William’s night dalliance with the leggy blond at his barracks.
William chased Kate, the telephone calls were not to tell her they had finished, it was the start of his campaign to get her back for whatever reason.
Kate was very reluctant and whatever press reports said, she went out with him as a friend and companion and even the holiday in the Seychelles was not the love nest week, it was two friends meeting on holiday. They arrived separately and left separately and even up to the Balmoral weekend they were not really an item.
Something happened at Balmoral and if you remember there was not a single photograph or confirmed report of their being together and Kate returned to her parents house alone. At Balmoral it was Charles who entertained Kate and I believe that it was with Charles and Camilla that Kate stayed not with William and friends at the cottage.
Following Balmoral, William distanced himself from Kate for several months apart from the Ice skating evening and that disasterous meeting at Windsor the day before Kate set off on her Christamas holiday with her parents in Barbados.
In early January William started his RAF training and being away from his usual friends and cronies suddenly realised that he was so lonely. He was missing Kate and obviously persuaded her that he wanted to be with her.
And so to the present.
Remember the above is a fairy story made up from available scraps of information but it could be true, as true as most of the DM stories anyway.
April 28th, 2008 15:51
well will I see you crossed over to the maybe they are ,or not side.just kidding.pesonally I think he should make it ,or break it .
it is defenatly at the point of being silly
April 28th, 2008 16:31
I like the cover of the magazine it looks real .
I hope Kate and William do marry someday .
April 28th, 2008 16:41
Yeah I knew you would disagree with me Will but I just wanted to state that. People may always think that they won’t say I do but they showing us they will.
April 28th, 2008 18:09
I don’think anybody here knows more about William and Kate and their recent story than anybody else. The real story about their break up is not known to anybody here. It would therefore be very nice if people could put IMO after their comments.
April 28th, 2008 18:36
Kate? New Princess? Geezzz.. She doesnt fit to be one…
April 28th, 2008 18:47
(imo) Good Posts Will.
April 28th, 2008 19:13
They took a commercial flight together (Balmoral 2007), stated, confirmed and not IMO. The rest of what I think would be too long and IMO…
April 28th, 2008 19:23
Will,
I remember seeing pics of them in October, at Mahiki(??). That was the evening they where chased by the paps. It seemed to be they where “together” then. And how about, the “hunting/shooting” trip - that was in the Autumn as well………
April 28th, 2008 19:38
Yes, there is a youtube video of them together in a black range rover being chased by foot, motorcycle, taxi, private cars…total madness. Next day CH statement from the Press secretary in behalf of PW stating that PW and HIS girlfriend KM, so forth…
April 28th, 2008 19:39
Wills, you just made an old discussion back to 2008
LOL
April 28th, 2008 20:52
Will, there is another way to look at known facts. I cannot believe that Kate would have gone pheasant hunting in Windsor Park if there wasn’t an understanding between them. I think they were laying low, keeping out of the limelight all the time that Harry was gone,to avoid accidentally spilling the news about where he was at. As soon as he came back, they have become public again. Of course, I don’t live in London, but that is as plausible as your tale.
April 28th, 2008 21:54
GRACIE - What exactly is your problem? First you say that William is gay, then your latest post says Kate is not fit to be a princess. Exactly who are you to make remarks like that? You know darn well William isn’t gay and IMO, if William loves Kate and wants to spend his life with her, then she’s fit to be HIS princess.
Don’t start please with the hateful posts. You insult people’s intelligence and you show how silly you really are.
April 28th, 2008 21:56
WILL - You mentioned that very possibly William relies on Kate as a lover, companion, friend and substitute for his mother. Who does that remind you of? Those are all the things that Prince Charles found in Camilla - lover, comforter, companion, cheering him up, boosting his low self-esteem AND almost a mother figure to him. Perhaps those truly are things that William needs in a woman.
April 28th, 2008 23:20
leave them alone. let them speak to the public., their too old, they must know on how to decide on theirselves.
April 29th, 2008 02:18
Will, I think your timeline of the relationship has a flaw. William knew Jecca before he even got together with Kate. He met her during his gap year and she was “guest of honor” at his 21st birthday party. If he ever was truely interested in her (and we have nothing but the word of the tabloids that he was), she “turned him down” before he even became an item with Kate. And if the other woman you’re referring to is Isabella than I have to remind you that Isabella herself stated that there was never anything between her and William and how could there have been when he was still “officially” with Kate at the time?
The rest is of course anyone’s guess but IMO you are interpreting far too much into everything. How would you know whether Kate merely had “friendly” feelings for William when they met again during 2007? Why would she have stayed in contact in the first place if she didn’t hope for a reconciliation? To me it looked like their break-up was more like a huge fight or row that got blown out of proportion. IMO, they just seized the chance to take a more low key approach to their relationship. But then that’s really just guessing, too.
If we don’t see or hear about William and Kate that doesn’t mean they didn’t meet or that William “distanced” himself from her. By all accounts they spend quite a lot of time together during November and December last year. So much that the press even speculated that she had moved in with him.
I would say they had a fight in March/April 2007 but shortly afterwards made up and ever since have been an item again.
I agree though that she seems to be a friend and companion as well. I don’t know about a mother figure since, IMO, Kate doesn’t give of a very motherly vibe and doesn’t have a lot in common with Diana either. I always had the impression that her and her family represent the stable family life to him he might have missed at home. But then it’s impossible to psycho-analyse someone based on pics and gossip mags.
April 29th, 2008 07:22
Hi Trixi,
Nice chatting with you.
I acknowledge your point that William’s first contact with Miss Craig was during his gap year, but his strong friendship with her extends even to this day.
You may even remember that William was with Jessica before travelling to the Seychelles to meet up with Kate and stayed with her family for four days afterwards before accompanying her back to London. Kate of course travelled back via Paris on her own.
Obviously only the two people involved know exactly what their relationship was but it definitely continues to this day. In fact during the period before Christmas it was reported that William did in fact discus with Jessica and an American female his mothers death and his his relationship with Kate.
Will was definitely stricken with Isabella to such an extent that Kate initiated their first split over his relationship with her and eventually made William promise never to see her again, before taking him back when Isabella scorned him.
Isabella is now firmly with Sam Branson I understand even though he is several years younger than she is.
After their split in early 2007, Kate was reluctant to get back with William even though he did pursue her for several months leading to the Balmoral visit. It was even intimated that William’s drinking became very heavy at this time as he couldn’t get Kate to commit.
What happened at Balmoral no one knows, but in all probability something very significant did happen and they did split up there and Kate travelled back alone to her parents house..
Trixi,most UK based people on here will confirm that during the autumn of 2007 William was extremely off hand with Kate even to the extent of ignoring her several times in company.
Yes they did meet up during this time as William was still trying to get Kate to commit but reports of their dining out and the ice skating were reported as being friendly rather than loving.
The story of Kate moving in to CH was just another DM story without foundation.
The meeting at Windsor the day before Kate went away with her parents was a travesty and the kissing/hugging sequence was completely farcical excercised by William in his feud with the press. The sequence of photographs clearly confirmed that with Kate being a very reluctant partner.
During this period there were many other instances of William ignoring Kate such as the book review at Bluebird and on one notable occasion is was reported that Charles declined to dine with William, Camilla and familly because Kate was excluded.
I honestly believe that William and Kate got together again early in January after he moved north to start his RAF training. How and why I can’t say, but William had been out with at least two ladies other than Holly Branson in the period from before Christmas, but both seemed to be of very short duration.
I am not suggesting that Kate has any similarities with Diana, but she does have a motherly instinct which is very obvious when she is around very young children. She attracts them whenever in company and that is probably her only similarity with Diana.
I honestly believe that William and Kate are extremely fond of one another and there is a huge attraction between them which when they are seen together gives an impression of their being very much in love. The length of time that their relationship has lasted must confirm that.
Will it continue to blosom to marriage and family, who knows?
We all just hope.
April 29th, 2008 08:52
I didn’t mean to imply that William and Jecca are not friends. I’ve read before that he spends his summers in Kenya quite regularly possibly also visiting the Tusk Trust in which Jecca’s father is involved if I am not mistaken. In 2005 I think Kate even accompanied him there. Still I do not see your point that he only “returned” to Kate because Jecca didn’t want him when he only came together with Kate after he had met Jecca already.
Recently Isabella was at the van Straubenzee charity party and there was no mention of any tension between William/Kate and Isabella.
I am also aware of the “urban myth” you are repeating that William had the hots for Isabella and that Kate is/was jealous of her, yet the only article I ever read of William actually showing interest in Isabella is back from 2005 or 2006 when he supposedly chatted her up at some society event. Whether that was him expressing deeply felt love for Isabella or merely a harmless conversation, is anyone’s guess.
IMO, a lot of these things are merely exaggerated by the press to build up a possible triangle à la Charles-Diana-Camilla. Since Kate is William’s first public long term g/f there is no “ex” they could refer back to hence they take whoever is available. Since Jecca is one of the few supposed ex-g/f’s William still has contact with, she’s the most likely target. And Isabella doesn’t seem to mind. I’m sure it doesn’t hurt her acting “career” that she’s repeatedly in the papers for her supposed William connection even though she might claim otherwise.
I’m not saying that you are wrong and I am right, neither of us can know any of these things, I’m just more inclined to believe the best of people and not the worst.
I find your selective belief in relation to gossip articles curious though. You believe reports about William spending time with Jecca and confiding in her but reports about him acting lovingly with Kate and spending time with her, you do not believe? I know she didn’t move in with him, I just said that the DM probably misinterpreted information they got of her spending a lot of time in CH.
The ice-skating “date” was reported as “romantic” though. Here’s the link: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article559377.ece
The hunting pics didn’t look any more loving or less so than any other pics of these two. They were never big friends of PDA.
As I said, we’ll never know. I’m waiting for the tell-all-book to finally settle all those unsolved mysteries.
April 29th, 2008 09:29
Hi trixi,
And just whose book do you think will have all that ?
W
April 29th, 2008 09:53
Hi trixi,
Sorry I can only write it as I see it and from information I glean.
For William the Isabella infatuation was real and was there any mention of an acknowledgement by William or Kate at the van Straubenze function ?
If you had seen the animosity and body language directed by William at Kate for a period last autumn you wold know exactly what I meant.
Yes there are loving and caring moments and I have seen most published ones but in honesty during that period William’s attitude to Kate was almost one of loathing and dismissal. This attitude was noticed and reported by many and I most certainly picked up on it.
If he was acting up , then he is a superb actor!
Oh, I am sure that the book is already written possibly with with the myriad of endings still possible, and already prepared.
April 29th, 2008 10:27
We all have different view and from information with gather.
April 29th, 2008 12:31
How many pics were there of them last autumn? I only remember the Bouji exit and the book launch party and yes William looked angry then but not at Kate but at the paps, then ice skating and the Windsor hunt in none of which he looked dimissive or angry, IMO. Where there any other pics? I seriously don’t know.
How do you know what William feels/felt for Isabella? I’m sure you’re not one of the few close friends whom he would trust with such intimate knowledge.
No as far as I read there was no mention of them acknowledging each other (William/Kate and Isabella that is). William and Kate were supposedly all over each other.
And I agree that tell-all-book is already in some drawer somewhere. Sooner or later the “real story” (according to some gossip journalist) will be published either after a final break-up or severaL years into the marriage when the stories about the loving couple and cute toddlers get boring for the press.
IMO, neither William nor Kate will ever publicly discuss problems in their relationship.
April 29th, 2008 13:23
Hi Guys,
Can I please ask what is the point of IOM ?
We are putting down our thoughts and opinions and these thoughts and opinions are all our considered thoughts and opinions. There is therefore no need to quantify these thoughts with IOM.
I am not sure if anyone will agree with me but they look so stupid coming at the beginning or end of a sentence. It is as if one has not though about what is being written.
How stupid can we get.
April 29th, 2008 13:36
Hmmmm, take it easy Will. IMO is not a bad word. It just seems better for some, since other perhaps when writting - express stating for a fact, whereas perhaps its not a fact and confusses those who don’t really follow the Royals and do get bothered.
April 29th, 2008 13:46
the book is called william’s princess already published with way to many facts not to have some inside information
April 29th, 2008 13:50
Hi Trixi
Or trixi, which is it. Some comments have the name with a capital letter some with a small letter. Are we one or two persons ?
I am not sure if you are aware of how long William and Isabella have known one another.
They have met one another constantly since childhood as her brother is a polo playing friend of William.
I do know that when William was a young impressionable teenager he met a sophisticated beautiful female two or three years older than he at a Polo Club Ball, and she danced the night with him. I only know of one such occasion but there may well have been several more over the years.
It was next reported that they met at a Students Union Ball in Edinburgh when William paid a solo visit.
Their next repoted meeting was at a Charity Ball when William left Kate at their table with friends who had accompanied them.
William then spent the first part of the evening chatting and dancing with Isabella, and that was the reported occasion when Kate left and returned home and lead to their breakup in 2004.
Isabella’s father made a statement denying any romantic involvement between his daughter and Prince William and Kate and William made up with his promise not to contact Isabella again.
The above is from memory and dates, occasions may be incorrect but basically truthful.
April 29th, 2008 14:05
Your getting quite aggressive Will. I for one, really don’t want to rediscuss old discussions that at least Rman, Claudius, you and I have had last year with this old stuff.
But really, its your choice, the again and again is getting boring.
April 29th, 2008 14:14
someone please check my timeline,and tell me how long theyhave been goingout.thankyou
April 29th, 2008 14:24
And what is your timeline on PW/KM dating ? I think you mentioned in some point since joining BRW 5-6 years.
As a Wikipida fact, November-December 2003 = 4 years and (6) months 4 + 1 or 2 months more.
April 29th, 2008 14:28
I personally tend to believe what Isabella herself has said in interviews. She has said that when she first read about her and prince William she hadn’t even met him and when she met him the first time it was a bit embarassing because of the “love stories” that had been printed. She said that she now knew him, but that there never had been anything going on between them. And that they now were able to have a laough about it when they met. I think she might know the story better than most!
April 29th, 2008 14:29
the article really..i think Kate and William would have been married 3 or more times and having their second child LOL”S… William, put them out of their misery and just marry the girl already so we dont have to write IMO on every post LOL”S….
Will, Harry has been seen with friends house hunting in Belgravia this week and the pics was on belga pictures..wonder if he is in the market for a house or maybe not.
April 29th, 2008 14:33
Hi Me,
Thanks for putting me in order, appreciated.
Sorry and all that, perhaps I was a lttle hasty.
Apologies trixi and everyone.
W
April 29th, 2008 14:36
benign, I saw that 1 pic and it does say by the papz pic PH house hunting in Belgravia, how strange - PW/KM where seen house hunting, Beatrice same, and now PH - they all want to move out. LOL
April 29th, 2008 14:36
i meant accumlative time,your not together when your brokenup
April 29th, 2008 14:38
and just after they built kate her own gym
April 29th, 2008 14:44
Right, so it would be an aprox. of 4 years with their supposed and/or press out of proportion break ups, they are the same people where talking about, no different finger print
i.e. I’m going out with James 4 years, we broke up and are together again, our separation lasted 2 months (say the last one last year 2007), so my friends ask me how long have I been with him, I’ll say 9 months, thats crazy. At least I know my down to earth friends will say that I lost my marbles. LOL
April 29th, 2008 14:51
you know i loved coming here before with just me, Will, Claudius, Rman, Merrick , agape eternal, B and two more people since we basically disagree with each other most of the time but we never tell anyone how to post, write IMO, differentiate a fact from an opinion, naming names and etc…It didnt matter whether it was old or new ones since everyone respected each other’s opinion. we had our differences and i for one had little tiff with Rman once but we got over it, apologized and moved on…we never continuously or constately harped on someone for posting their views whether its the majority or minority view….oh wells, times have changed..
April 29th, 2008 14:56
you know PW and Kate house hunting is very doubtful considering they were both trying to ran away from the paps that day and then just decide to stop and go look for a house..but then again its Richard Kay who sometimes forget to write what days or dates it supposedly happened….
April 29th, 2008 14:59
There are many new people, I have noticed that they get confussed when writing for a fact, when its a IMO. :shrug:
We need to respect those too. And I do understand those who ask IMO to be placed or when another poster jumps and says that’s not true, where did you read that, then finally the IMO comes out clearing the discussion.
April 29th, 2008 15:18
if people wishes to put IMO on every post, then thats great but just dont tell or ask everyone to start putting IMO on every post coz no one should be telling everyone or anyone on what to do with their post….
April 29th, 2008 15:26
Who ever asked it (I think Jade), I’m pretty sure asked it politely with a please included. If you don’t wish to comply, then don’t.
April 29th, 2008 15:31
ME - I was not the one who asked for the IMO so you need to re-read the posts for who that person really was. Don’t blame me, please.
April 29th, 2008 15:44
I am not trying to start an arguement,just trying to figure out the timeline of they’re relationship.as for my comments.they are what they are.just deal
April 29th, 2008 16:12
Jenny come on. People are getting tired of your same old comments. Even Will has made comments to you about it. Your tiresome comments are boring and annoying and no - I don’t have to deal with them. You can have your point of view but you harp and harp on the same think - Kate Middleton, Kate Middleton. I’m beginning to think you have a crush on her.
April 29th, 2008 16:35
I don’t think that the above comment is really fair. Jenny may have made a mistake about the timeline but we should just correct her and carry on. Or she may know things which we don’t in which case we should just thank her or politely question her.
Back on topic:
Kate would never do a kiss and tell or write a book because she would be pushed out of the royal circle. The trust would be lost and if she was determined on marrying someone from that circle, she would find it a lot harder as many people would not trust her. This is why there are very few girls who would sell their stories.
As I have said before neither Kate nor William are ready to marry. I believe that they were strongest when they were at university. There they had a very private life and were at the same stage. Now, I think that they want different things. I believe that this happens to many couples. The love may still be there but as a couple they may no longer be suited to each other.
I saw a picture of them a few years ago. It is one where they sit beside each other and Kate is wearing that pretty pink tshirt. They are both laughing, joking and taking photos together. The love that they shared was obvious in that photograph. They weren’t holding hands or kissing but the smiles said it all. I have not seen William or Kate look at each other that way for a year or two now. They appear to be content in each others company but if they were to get married is that what a marriage should be based on? Contentment???
I think that William did have other relationships or flings when they broke up last summer. But I do not think that he met anybody that he felt anything for. He probably felt the shock of dating; that it can take a long time to build up a relationship and went back to Kate. He had the knowledge that there was already a relationship and that there was security in the fact that he could marry her. For Kate, I think she felt shocked that they broke up and responded by partying (a habit that I am glad she has stopped). By doing this, William could never forget about her, so he had her on his mind and whilst he was trying to date other girls, he remembered what he and Kate had. In conclusion, he gave in to the “fear” of being single.
Kate and William may still care about each other and still date but I think that there relationship has become more of a strong friendship. They probably care about each other a lot and wish that their relationship could be what it was at university. However, they have both changed since then. Their relationship together has taken up a significant part of their twenties and may be scared to let it end. Which is understandable.
I hope that they both find happiness in whoever they marry where it is each other or somebody else. But most of all I wish that they will make the right decisions for them and not anybody else.
P.S.sorry for the long post.
April 29th, 2008 16:47
everyone tune in to BBC news coz its been reported that PW touched down at Kandahar in Afghan for three hours and then went to Qatar…
April 29th, 2008 16:52
here’s skynews article about the visit to Afghanistan:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1314480,00.html
well done,Wills….surprised everyone…
April 29th, 2008 16:54
sorry Steven too many post…
another article:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1106653.ece
April 29th, 2008 17:13
Hi Benign, it’s nice to hear from you and thanks for the link. I just want to say while everyone is going way off on a subject of a book and weather William & Kate will walk down the isle soon, William is carring on with his training and seem to not be worried with where the relationship is going. Things are doing great for them and that’s all there’s to it. It’s so ggod to hear William going over there to visit the troops.
April 29th, 2008 17:17
Hi Rman,
nice to hear from you too and glad you are posting again….
April 29th, 2008 17:22
That’s really something for HRH PW to go to afghanistan and to use his new found talent of flying to do so. That trip would surely have clocked up his flying hours.
On another note HRH PB was on holiday again.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=562644&in_page_id=1773
April 29th, 2008 17:25
If you read the comments section of the Daily Mail article about Princess Beatrice - there is a humourous comment by someone under the name of Prince William, Windsor, UK. LOL
April 29th, 2008 20:01
the news in america just said prince william is in afganistan.
April 29th, 2008 20:48
Will, your Posts are a Enjoyable read.
some portions of Isabella’s interview inJan 2008.
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Isabella met Sam through mutual friends nearly two years ago and their relationship hasn’t just weathered the ‘William’ connection (it was even reported that William’s unrequited love for Isabella prompted his short-lived split from Kate Middleton),
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(She cont….
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Being part of a big, expanded family is wonderful. It gives you a richer life with more love, more support and more friendship – and that can only be a good thing.
“Both my parents have been really supportive and I don’t have a wicked stepmother – we are very close. She has been in my life since I was about four. Our family is really special, I wouldn’t have it any other way.”
One day Isabella would like to extend that family to include children of her own, but for now her priority is her career which might lead her – in the foreseeable future – to LA.
“I suppose it’s possible that Sam and I could both end up working out there, but who knows what the future holds?” she says.
An engagement? I reply (hastily adding that I mean to become Mrs Sam Branson not Mrs Prince William). “No, no, no. No engagement,” she says rolling her eyes and laughing.
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Jan.2008
April 29th, 2008 20:53
left out second part of quote…comes after ….
(it was even reported that William’s unrequited love for Isabella prompted his short-lived split from Kate Middleton),
it has endured a recent three-month separation while Sam studied music in LA. Isabella is dismissive of the five-year age gap, saying he is ‘very mature’.
Daily MAil Jan2008
April 29th, 2008 21:00
Hi Guys,
Can’t sleep. Into torture chamber later this moning for two days. Liz is also travelling to Boston later . She is going as a visiting Fellow to a Law Faculty for several weeks.
Air miles will be earned at rapid raye of knots over next three months.
Any offers to take me un ? Joking.
B has written a super piece , one of her best I would say and I am in agreement with many of her points.
William and Kate are as one, in love,respect
one another, know more about one another than their own brothers or sister do but it is difficult to see how ,why and where it is going. If it doesnt happen now and happen very quickly,every day makes it less likely that they will marry.
But they will be together for years, because their love and affection for one another can not be cast aside so we shall have a position where the heir (2) will be well into his thirties or possibly fortees before a suitable bride will be found for him.
And Kate. The lovely beautiful woman will remain unmarried, possibly for ever, for where could she find a man who would be King.
What a sad ending to what should have been the marriage of the twenty first Century.
I hope the above is my dream, that I am not awake and typing this. I can’t read it so it must be a dream. Good night.
April 29th, 2008 21:12
Thanks Merrick, I have and read the entire article. I’m not going to link it here, but, her daddy was clearly very pist off and made a public complaint, as well as a PCC complaint at that time (19) while she never even had met him ! Love the press for crap gossip LOL
Its a long article (DM) dated january 31, 2008. Anyone may google it entering this following title:
The reluctant It-girl and her Virgin boyfriend: Isabella Calthorpe on acting, ancestry - and affairs of the heart
April 30th, 2008 09:13
Will, lol. You have one interesting imagination.
April 30th, 2008 10:31
Hi Everybody…hope you are all doing well…
Rman…I don’t necessarily agree…I think that Will’s comment could be a very plausible scenario…I’m not saying that I think it’s the only outcome, but it is a possibility.
I think that there are so many potential scenarios for either a break-up or a marriage with Will and Kate…and I keep a very open mind so I find the different opinions very interesting and thought-provoking at times….keep ‘em coming!
The longer they wait, the longer they build up their dependence on each other…and that is not necessarily a good thing because “needing” to have someone in your life is not at all the same as “wanting” that person in your life. And if it’s the former, then that can’t be sustained long-term because eventually one side realizes that it’s not a solid relationship they are partaking in. And if one of them (most likely William, given Kate’s apparent patience with all of this) decides to end the relationship, then it can take years to get over somebody that you have been with for that long. So, for example, if they continue to date until they’re 28 and then break up, they would both be in their 30’s before they would be emotionally ready to handle a committed relationship with somebody else. And once you get into your 30’s the dating pool diminishes greatly because most people have already paired off or been married by that time. (That’s what I’m told, at least:) So it could definitely end up that Kate and/or William remains unmarried for a very long time if they continue to draw this relationship out. On the other hand, maybe they really are just happy with the way things are going and don’t see the purpose in rushing things because they’re already positive about their future together. Who knows…I’m just saying that I don’t think we should discount Will’s scenario, because it is a possibility.
I also think that, whilst William seems to share certain qualities with Charles, he was probably very affected by the divorce of his parents and the subsequent unhappiness that he watched his mother go through. So, it’s entirely possible that William is petrified of making the wrong decision and going through that amount of pain and/or causing that amount of pain to his partner. So he’s paralyzed by fear and can’t make the final decision to commit with marriage because of all of the “what if’s” going through his head.
If william has equal parts of Charles and Diana in him, then that could create a lot of inner turmoil for him…on the one hand he doesn’t want to be tied down and wants to play the field like Charles did, but on the other hand he is like Diana and has a nurturing/nesting instinct; and both of those traits are hard to reconcile since they are so very opposite. (I know it is debated whether or not Diana actually had those qualities but, regardless, that is what she showed the boys and that is what they say they remember about her). That fear and confusion could go on for many years and perhaps Kate will be at a point of not wanting to deal with it anymore and so she leaves the relationship…either way, they will both be at an age that makes it more difficult to meet potential suitors, and will have invested so much time and effort in this relationship that they’re a little burned-out and don’t feel like putting in that effort with somebody else for a very long time, if ever.
Anyways…sorry for the long-winded analysis, but I wanted to at least give my reasoning for agreeing with Will’s assessment
April 30th, 2008 10:33
Its a rollercoaster ride with our friend Will, one paragraph upward, next paragraph screaming downwards (with are arms up, hair flying) LOL
April 30th, 2008 11:24
But what if, and I’m only saying if…what if they are already engaged??? Have we thought about that? Most of us would agree that William is not ready but what if he is?
Just playing the devil’s advocate for a moment
April 30th, 2008 11:41
I have thought about that B and i have said it numerous times i think they already are. Or at least he has promised her or I don’t think she would stick around any longer. She would be moving on her with her life personally and professionally. She seems to be very intelligent and likeable. It would not be hard for her to find someone else. I think she has a firm commitment from William (a proposal) . Yet there are many who disagree. I personally would not stay in that relationship if I didn’t know where it was going for sure in the future. Why put yourself and family through all the harsh criticism if there is no future between the two.
April 30th, 2008 12:10
Personally, I don’t completely understand the “secret engagement” theory. Engaged or dating, they’re going to get the same amount of speculative press and gossip attention, so why not make it official so that Kate can at least have a legal bodyguard…she gets trailed whenever possible already, so if her safety is william’s main concern, wouldn’t he be happy to say he’s engaged so that she could be fully protected? And the whole “promised engagement” seems just as odd to me. If you’re 100% positive that you’re going to marry this person, then why not just get engaged? A “promise” seems pretty flimsy because it still leaves enough wiggle room to get out of the relationship, whilst at the same time avoids the actual commitment of an engagement; thus showing you’re still undecided but may eventually change your mind and commit…a promise wouldn’t be binding enough for me to give up pursuing my own course in life. And I understand that is your argument…that since she has seemingly given up her career etc., then she must be engaged secretly. But I must say that I have found that most girls are not that strong when it comes to boyfriends. And it’s usually the norm for girls to put their lives on hold (consciously or not) whilst waiting for a “dithering” boyfriend to make up their mind…because they figure that if they’re the “perfect” girlfriend and accommodating to their boyfriend’s needs, then he’ll have to see how great you are and therefore he’ll commit. They’re afraid to keep moving on their own course because they don’t want to make a “mistake” that would lead to a breakup. Which, in reality, is not well thought-out because if your relationship is so unstable that you’re afraid of living your own life, then perhaps it’s time to re-think the relationship and/or your own irrational fears. So, I actually think Kate’s behaviour is more consistent with that of somebody waiting for commitment and understanding that it’s a volatile situation…and she thinks that by staying available and accommodating to his schedule, then he’ll be more likely to end up with her. If there was a secret engagement, she would probably be more secure in making job decisions because she would know how much time she has before the engagement is announced publicly, and thus end her ability to lead a “normal” life with a normal job etc….and I would think she would want to take advantage of that time. Whereas she seems slightly stalled right now, and like she’s waiting on a decision that’s out of her control (i.e. wills to propose) before she can start making decisions.
I’m not sure if that made sense…a little sleep-deprived at the moment! But I’ve always been skeptical of the “secret engagement” theory so I thought I’d weigh-in on the discussion!
April 30th, 2008 12:13
Curious22, very good post especially about secret engagements…long but very well thought out and thank you…
April 30th, 2008 12:27
Thanks, benign! I tend to have a hard time being succinct when writing, but I’ll work on it….sorry!
April 30th, 2008 12:44
Curious22, no need to apologies about the long post. its just me being sarcastic in a funny sort of way i think LOL’s…cool…thanks again…
April 30th, 2008 13:01
Gee - I think Beatrice’s bikini is a bit too tight on her. She might look better in a one piece suit because the suit she’s wearing doesn’t flatter her body.
April 30th, 2008 13:03
They will have much more press when they become engaged and not just dating anymore. I agree a promise would not be enough for me to stick around either I would want an actual proposal. One of the reasons i feel they might be engaged is the fact she doesn’t have a career. Then again, she might just be sitting idly by counting her chickens before they hatch. That wouldn’t be very smart on her part. Who really knows but PW and KM.
April 30th, 2008 13:50
So at 26 you would leave your b/f of 5 years if he didn’t propose?
I never had the impression Kate wanted to have a “career” in the first place. Some early articles claimed all she wanted was a house, a husband and children. Therefore I tend to believe her decision to be “jobless” has nothing to do with the status of her relationship to William.
I expect a decision by 2009. So far the articles generally claimed William didn’t want to marry because of his military training. That will be over by the end of this year and we’ll see whether he’ll change his mind.
April 30th, 2008 14:13
I would. I wouldn’t invest that much of my youth if it was going anywhere in the future.
April 30th, 2008 14:38
Well, Curious22 I have to say you do know alot but we can see William & Kate is doing just fine. I have notice some on here, thinking and analyzing a little too much on this royal relationship just like Rman said. But it’s very good reading. Things are happening a little at a time. Not being rushed and it’s being carried out in a calm way. We just have to wait and see what William & Kate do next that’s all.
April 30th, 2008 15:29
Great points Curious22 , I agree.
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“I think that there are so many potential scenarios for either a break-up or a marriage with Will and Kate…and I keep a very open mind so I find the different opinions very interesting and thought-provoking at times….keep ‘em coming!
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About a secret engagement: I don’t think William is secretly engaged.
Excerpt from article during their breakup:
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A source close to Kate said: “Basically, Mrs Middleton gave Kate a good talking to. ‘You’re 25 next month,’ she said, ‘you can’t drift forever.’ She told Kate that if Wills didn’t commit she could hang on for a year, two or even three and then find herself ‘damaged goods’. She’d be on the shelf and find it hard to make a good match.
“She told Kate she had to explain her position to Wills and make him understand that if his intentions were serious he needed to prove it.”
Did Mrs Middleton urge her daughter to press William for a proposal and official engagement? That has not been confirmed, but what is known is that the couple had a long conversation and William said he would give serious thought to what Kate had said.
DAILYMAIL article:APRIL16 2007
Was Kate’s Mom too Pushy for Royals?
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I do wonder how many more years Kate will wait without something official. She is closer to 30 now than 20.
Why is it taking so long if he does intend to marry her? If she goes to Peter’s wedding and is seen chatting with the Queen,then I think it will send a clear signal.
April 30th, 2008 15:35
I meant I would not wait 5 years.
April 30th, 2008 15:36
Hi Trixie…I’m guessing that your question was directed towards me, but I’m not sure where you got that impression. I’m not saying she should leave him because he hasn’t proposed…I’m not saying that in the least…I was just making comments on the “secret engagement” theory…and made some observations/hypotheses about what could be going on with her seemingly idle and stalled life at the moment…hopefully that clarifies
I would never even think about telling somebody to break up with their significant other simply because they had been together for a long time, without an engagement…so I do apologise if I gave that impression.
Hi Claudius…I completely agree that things could be perfectly fine with them. I would, however, say one thing about your comment that “we can see william and kate are doing fine”…as we all know, things aren’t always what they seem. So, for those that believe that they don’t have a strong relationship b/c of the lack of PDA, then that could be an incorrect assumption b/c they could have a fantastic relationship away from prying eyes. On the other side, the people that say they do have a great relationship because they’re laughing together, could also be incorrect because it could all be for show.
So, I fully agree that things could be fantastic, I was just giving some opinions on common relationship issues that could be happening with them…because, after all, they are still human.
At the end of the day, I think everybody deserves to be happy, so I do truly hope that is the case with them!
April 30th, 2008 16:00
I agree, but I just can’t help but to say, some of the comments on here is amusing. But again good reading. I also don’t doubt that William & Kate are strangers to these sites as well and enjoy the reading. That is one of the reasons why I like this site. But like I said before William & Kate always suprise us and that is what we have to wait for. Hopefully we will see them tomorrow at the charity dinner.
April 30th, 2008 16:22
If Kate reaches 27-28 with nothing Official from William and they end up parting after all these years, that will be a “pr” nightmare for him, won’t it?(I’m asking out of curiousity) How does Kate rebuild her life which she has based around William(imo) and her romantic life. I agree with Curious 22,
it may take her years to find someone new she wants.
William maybe too.
April 30th, 2008 16:28
Too much speculation, everyone sit back and lets watch how the drama unfolds. I write every day, all day, and I do home net working, so how can anyone guess that she is ’stalled’ and not working. We don’t know much of her, private citizen, as much as we may know about PW, royal diary.
April 30th, 2008 17:04
I don’t think they will split up again. LIke you said ,”huge PR nightmare” if they did. The only way to eliminate the nightmare would be if Kate dumped him for s