Kate Middleton spotted with Prince William lookalike
Who said there’s a lack of genetic diversity among Britain’s upper class?
More charitable observers might conclude that Kate Middleton put an advert in the paper for a Prince William lookalike to accompany her to Boujis last night.
Either way, her mystery date bore a striking resemblance to her royal boyfriend, who is away training with the RAF.
Tousled dark blonde hair? Check. Doe eyes? Check. Obligatory Sloaney shirt and crisp trouser combination? Check.
The pair climbed into a taxi together after the night out at the exclusive Kensington nightclub, which has become a firm favourite with the younger royals.
Read entire article at The Daily Mail…
May 1st, 2008 06:22
Hi Guys,
Surpised ?
I wonder if William has invited his girl friend out tonight to the Mayor’s function?
If he hadn’t, then perhaps she decided to invite a friend out last night instead. She really looks surprisingly happy doesn’t she ?
Beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning ?
May 1st, 2008 06:23
Hi guys,
Or perhaps it’s her security detail ??
May 1st, 2008 06:53
The lad in the cab with Kate has a resemblance to Pippa. Mayhaps her brother?
May 1st, 2008 07:08
It’s not her brother James, but a guy she has been seen with before. A friend or maybe a relative. No secret new guy, that’s for sure
May 1st, 2008 07:17
she looks happy and the guy looks good….is this the same guy from last November who was waiting for her outside her place?
May 1st, 2008 07:20
btw, wheres William’s friends who usually watch out for her?
May 1st, 2008 08:10
They could be there too, but this time the photographer focused on Kate and the “mysery guy”. As they would.
May 1st, 2008 08:33
Somehow I think he was her security or just a friend.
May 1st, 2008 09:26
Hi Guys,
The was a photograph of Kate recently with Thomas v S and another guy.
I’ve tried to find that photograph or remember wher it was.
This is the same Guy.
May 1st, 2008 09:42
If you’re referring to the guy who accompanied them to Cheltenham this year - don’t think that it’s him. He looks more similar to the man who was snapped outside her Chelsea apartment last year. They all look kinda same …so who knows?!
May 1st, 2008 09:47
Well,well,well the Kate soap opera thickens.
She is back to her old antics. Wonder what’s up?
In the past This was usually Kate’s move when something has gone behind the scenes in the relationship.
She knew the press would be there to take her photo and she shows up with a guy similar to William.
Not engagement ready,I’d say.
May 1st, 2008 10:00
Hi Guys,
Comment on what we see, but for now leave the engagement talk, leave the marriage talk.
It’s years off,and may never even happen.
But William and Kate will remain fiends as they have for the past 10-11 months and will accompany one another to selected events, just a friends always do.
This does not preclude either from going out alone, or with another escort at various times.
I can see great difficulties ahead for both, but if the photograph is anything to go by Kate does not appear to be too worried and seems quite happy even being photographed with another Guy.
When one considers this matter, in all honesty, nothing has changes since jan/feb/mar 2007.
May 1st, 2008 10:02
Guys,
Sorry for this, but exactly what is the red bag carried by the Guy ?
May 1st, 2008 10:10
This appears to be the same guy that was spotted in front of her apartment one morning.
Interesting.
I still say not engagment ready imo.
A engaged woman about to enter the Royal house doesn’t hit the nightclubs, with a guy.
May 1st, 2008 10:26
I was wondering about the red bag, too, Will! It’s rather large…I’m surprised the tabs didn’t allude to it being an overnight bag for him to spend the night with her; or some other rumour-starting speculation of that nature….
May 1st, 2008 10:38
Oh dear, the other day I praised her for not partying much recently. I do hope that this does not lead to another stint of summer partying.
May 1st, 2008 10:52
This is strange indeed. Her first club night this year without her family and she leaves with some stranger (to us, I guess not to her
). She doesn’t wear William’s friendship ring on her finger like she usually does, it looks like neither of William’s friends accompanied her and she didn’t even try to avoid the paps. I wonder what this is all about. She’s sending strange signals but the press is very kind to her. I’m sure if William had left a club with a female stranger, who carried what looks like an overnight bag, grinnin all over his face the headline would have been much less understanding.
May 1st, 2008 11:05
That is true. All it takes to Kate being seen with a guy that no one really knows about and the speculation starts up again, which is by the way very sad. This is probably a friend or relative. So I’m not very shocked when I come on here and start to read the speculated comments. It’s expected.
May 1st, 2008 11:06
One night out with friends and you are out to get her.Why? What is so bad in going to a night club once in a while. Most normal people do actually.I really hope that the young royals and their friends find time for quite a lot of fun this summer!
Of course Kate and Will are not “just friends”. They never were and never will be. They are much more than that and it certainly looks like they will get married in the next few years. They have had a very solid relationship for 5-6 years. All the break-ups that the tabloids have reported on, did not happen.
The fact that Kate and this man are openly leaving the night club together and going away in a taxi should tell you all that this is not a secret relationship or something they want to hide. She is very comfortable being seen with this guy and they obviously have no problems with being photographed.
May 1st, 2008 11:12
right on dagy.
May 1st, 2008 11:23
actually Kate and this guy were leaving through the back door not the front door.. yes we would like to speculate since if this was William, the press would start calling him a cad and such….one thing too, do you see any other friends that are with them in this cab?
May 1st, 2008 11:25
This could be the same person she was with at the races. I do definetly think it is the same guy outside her apartment.
http://www.whu.teamhighgrove.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=24
If it where something sinister, I don’t think she would be out with him in public.
We shall see.
The plot thickens
May 1st, 2008 11:26
test
May 1st, 2008 11:28
I personally don’t think for a minute that this guy is a “secret date” or anything like this. However Kate has not been seen in company of male friends before except for those who are also friends of William. She has been in the public eye long enough to know what the press will make out of pictures like these and hence has avoided ever being papped in a “compromising situation”. Therefore I find it odd that she would allow herself to be pictured like this now.
May 1st, 2008 11:32
Yes right on dagy, you can also see more pictures at http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kate-middletons-william-look-alike-204501/ You can tell from the pictures that they treated her like with respect and the VIP that she is.
May 1st, 2008 11:36
You guys seem to think the “best of” Kate,sorry but I just don’t. She was spotted with this guy last year near her apartment. Something is up here,not sure what though?
Kate has been known to use the press to send messages when she wants to.
This is just not a good image for future Queen, she should not be coming out of nightclubs with guys( with more hair than William)
Ha!
May 1st, 2008 11:41
The guy sitting next to Kate in the cab looks a little bit like William just a little resemblance.
May 1st, 2008 11:44
lol
May 1st, 2008 11:52
She is doing the hand by her ear thing like she did on her bike.
May 1st, 2008 11:53
Trixie, I bet this is one of William’s friends as well. This girl is way too smart to be pictured with a guy and knowing the press would go wild. She seems comfortable enough to do that so, it can’t be that harmful.
May 1st, 2008 12:01
Hi Guys,
Something definitely up.
Kate does not have on the friendship ring William gave her in 2004 in Switzerland.
It’s the first time I’ve ever seen her without it.
She wore it on the middle finger of her left hand even during the split a year ago.
Perhaps this IS her guy, and perhaps he’s been around some time.
Don’t think she’ll be out with William tonight, do you ?
May 1st, 2008 12:04
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/kate14_2008/kate8-1.jpg
May 1st, 2008 12:05
Hi Will,
how are you holding up with Liz going away?
i dont know if something is up, but its interesting and she seem happy to be with him…
May 1st, 2008 12:10
Yeah sure, so she has been with this guy all the time, while she was holidaying with William and while she was present at his wing seremony and he risked his reputation landing in her back garden even though she is with another guy.That sounds reasonable, do you think? Oh she isn’t wearing any rings? Maybe she is getting ready to put a new ring on her finger?
No, she won’t be out with William tonight most likely. The event is too official and they are not engaged. Yet.
May 1st, 2008 12:12
Seem kind of cozy….yikes!
May 1st, 2008 12:16
Hi benign,
Not very well.
She’s away for 12-13 weeks.
I was going out there but hospital schedule may make it impossible now.
I’ve spoken with her and she wants to come home but this is important for her.
benign, what do you think of the absence of her ring? I think it’s quite crucial, and as you know I’ve mentioned my doubts for a couple of weeks now.
It just hasn’t looked right despite their closeness
and she does look very comfortable with this guy.
It’s all very odd but may just be another ploy, but I think not.
This may now be the ‘get out’ they’ve been looking for and with so many Royal events coming up it may be ‘time to let go’
I’m back at the office tomorrow so may get some buzz on this in the meantime, eyes and ears open guys.
May 1st, 2008 12:19
Hi again,
Just looked at merrick’s link.
As well as his red bag, he looks to ahve an overnight suit bag also.
Starnge happenings.
May 1st, 2008 12:20
Guys,
Are they holding hands?
I think they are!
May 1st, 2008 12:22
Thanks for the link, Claudius…in a lot of the images it does seem like she’s making a point to have her left hand in plan view, sans ring….so perhaps some of you are right, and she really is using this as an opportunity to send some sort of message…or perhaps she just likes the look of her left hand in pics
May 1st, 2008 12:23
Yikes, What is going on???? No ring, strange guy?
Funny how this happens when Wills has recently been dominating the headlines. Plus you would have thought after all the negative press regarding William that she would have stay away from the nightclub as it won’t help his situation. I don’t think William is going to be too happy with this as he is trying to rebuild his reputation and Kate is out partying. Something is up as I would expect Kate to keep a low profile while William rebuilds his reputation and this isn’t low profile. This is sending out a message.
I agree with Will I think this tells us she won’t be at the dinner tonight and I also think something is up between Wills and Kate.
May 1st, 2008 12:27
No Will I don’t expect her to be with William tonight although it would put the silly speculation to rest. But the event is too official for her to appear with him I think. Although we may see her. I just don’t think this girl is sending some crazy signal to us. Kate wouldn’t be loving to William one minute and then be seen with another guy the next. They must be very good friends and she was smiling. So she she went out with a friend, what’s wrong with that. I also notice that she wasn’t wearing her ring, she may just left it off or ready to put another one on that finger. “Engagement” Hint.
May 1st, 2008 12:32
Hi Rman,
No way.
That ring has been a fixture since 2004 and it’s omething I always looked out for. I can’t recall a single photograph of her without it.
Hold on. Ding Dong !
IOW party long legged blond girl in attendance
wonder if her name was Lisa ? Remember her last March !
It getting interesting
May 1st, 2008 12:33
They were not holding hands, Will. Pics taken from Kate’s side of the cab show that the guy was only holding his jacket not Kate’s hand. I don’t believe she’d be out and about with a new b/f before William and her let it be known that they broke up. Why should she do that? That would only make her appear like a cheat. I agree that the guy is merely a friend but it’s poor judgment on Kate’s part, IMO, to let this happen. William wouldn’t be caught out and about with a female friend in front of the paps either. Not because it would be wrong but because of the way the press will make it look.
And Jess actually has a good point about the timing. William is working hard to restore his reputation and Kate out and about at a party doesn’t help those attempts since her actions will reflect on him. Totally wrong move at the wrong time.
May 1st, 2008 12:34
This guy was in front of Kate’s flat last year one morning.
Maybe William has cooled it again. Those engagement predictions seem to scare him away at times.
May 1st, 2008 12:37
She knows, though, that the first place people will always look in pics, is at her left hand…so if she was secretly engaged, or about to become engaged, I would think that she’d be extra cautious to keep Wills’ ring on her middle finger, so as to avoid media speculation…she would want to keep everything status quo and would not be interested in showing any hint of a possible change in their relationship status….i.e. engagement….because as we’ve seen for years, she never takes that ring off…even when doing sport….so it does seem odd for it to be noticeably absent….but we shall see….
May 1st, 2008 12:39
Thanks Trixi,
I could only see from Guy’s side and his left hand and her right hand ou of sight.
I don’t William and Kate have really been ‘togther’ for almost a year, but are good friends.
Something tells me this Guy is ‘Army’
May 1st, 2008 12:43
More stories will come over the weekend, in the press as to who this guy is. Remember when she went out with Henry Ropner, the next day the press had his name and all the details of how he use to see Jecca. I think we’ll know more soon.
May 1st, 2008 12:45
Guys,
Did Fredie Sayer’s have dark hair ?
May 1st, 2008 12:50
How can you say that they are good friends and nothing else? If this guy is her boyfriend, she and William are not good friends. If she was his friend she wouldn’t go public with a new boyfriend at a period when William is in enough trouble as it is. Then she is really not a good friend.
But she did go on holiday with him, she did go to his wing seremony and he did land in her garden. So they are friends, that is boyfriend and girl friend.
May 1st, 2008 12:51
Yes Trixi, Kate should have known better. But other than that I feel William & Kate is doing good to set their future up. Kate just have to more careful. But we just have to sit and watch the speculation continue.
May 1st, 2008 12:59
How many people in the world follow Kate so closely that they know what kind of ring she is wearing on what finger? I don’t think the gereral public or even the press know those kind of things about her. So I don’t think anybody but a few posters on royal forums will get that message if she sent one!
This whole drama is taking place on the internet, nobody else know about it. Lucky them.
I’m sure not even William and Kate know anything about this new “situation”. Maybe you can tell them Will, you seem to want us to think you know them pretty well.
May 1st, 2008 13:02
I don’t think she’s necessarily trying to send a message to the public…it would be to Wills….because that’s something that he would notice…
May 1st, 2008 13:05
DAGY - Very well said. I agree with you 100% that some people who post on royal forums tend to get a bit obsessive about the silliest things, read into things that aren’t really what THEY think it is and just generally make mountains out of molehills.
May 1st, 2008 13:13
Well the reason why I said that she has to be more careful Dagy, is because people will always think the worst when she is pictured with another guy. She just went out to a club with a friend and people are taking it the wrong way. Other reports like the Daily Mail knows that nothing is going on. I’m sure William & Kate is not worried about any of this.
May 1st, 2008 13:32
Hi Will,
I understand how you feel about Liz’s going away..it will be alright and think always what a great opportunity for her to learn more and further her career….we have a holiday coming up which is Memorial day May 26 if you are planning to visit her….
she probably forgot to wear her rings or didnt feel like wearing it.. I hope William doesnt say anything and just keep his mouth shut..let the press do their own research and thats it…
I think Freddie Sayers has blond hair btw well at least from the pics i have seen on DM..
May 1st, 2008 13:42
These photos and this party-outing is not a positive thing for the Palace or the public to see, no matter how it’s spun here.
William is flying aircraft to Afghanistan.(positive)
Harry is helping in Africa with orphans.(positive)
Chelsy is at University getting her Masters degree in Law.(positive)
Kate appearing at nightclubs with some dude.
Not a good image.
I think someone has thrown caution to the wind, something is going on behind the scenes I predict.
May 1st, 2008 13:53
What about Beatrice on a gap year that’s lasted 2 years now? She’s in line for the throne (although not likely to ever become Queen) but what kind of messages does she send? Always on vacation, partying constantly, has no job, doesn’t really serve in any royal capacity. Why isn’t something said about her? This nonsense about Kate is really over the top and everyone needs to take a deep breath - this is all getting crazy about the status of her relationship with Prince William and unless you personally know them, it’s all just mere speculation and rumors.
May 1st, 2008 13:59
If you google FREDDIE SAYERS, there is an article from the Daily Mail from December 1, 2006 where they even call him the Prince William look-a-like friend who was taking care of Kate while Wills was away in the military. It’s the same guy so I think all this speculation is for absolutely nothing. (Sorry, I don’t know how to send links to this site).
May 1st, 2008 14:04
These club outings are not helping her future Queen image, no matter how it’s spun.
May 1st, 2008 14:22
Hi benign,
Thanks for cheering up attempts. I do miss Liz, but this was a fantastic opportunity to cover for an Assistant Professor awy now on maternity leave.
As you probably know Liz has a DPhil. and although she is at present in Chambers she would like to get back into academia so this is a wonderful chance.
I was hoping to follow her for a short period but my bloods are a bit diffy so its weekly attentance for next six weeks.
I do wonder how this William/Kate problem will sort itself out. In a way I have been expecting something like this which may allow both to just walk away without fuss.
In the absence of any formal news we shall just have to wait and see, but I do feel for them both as I am am absolutely certain that they were/are deeply in love and have that deep affection for one another which can usually overcome al odds.
The big one however may have overtaken them.
Time and circumstance may however have conspired against them
May 1st, 2008 14:25
Today I am going to play nce ,and not say anything .while I sit here with a big grin.
we’ll find out soon what is going on.Will your right that ring is usually superglued to her middlefinger
May 1st, 2008 14:48
Hi Will, Yes I do feel for them too. We all can tell how much they love and respect each other and people will always doubt their relationship. She went out with a friend of hers and William’s and now people think that something is wrong with their relationship. It’s so sad. But I honestly think they don’t pay any attention to the speculation. They carry on with their relationship with great ease and with a great deal of dignity. I know I can say that William & Kate is in a happy time in their lives. William just finished his training, he have a wonderful companion whos there for him, support him, and waits patiently while he finishes his duties. It truly seems that William is trying to get things out of his way so he can finally breath and pop the question. It’s just so obvious. There’s an understanding between them and the speculation really don’t seem to bother them. I can remember when we saw this guy not too long ago and he was there to look after her, while William is busy. Kate is not foolish to be seen with a guy that’s not in their circle. William is not foolish either to be with someone who is a cheat. The tabloids are making it seem like she is telling us that a breakup is on the way. As I read some of the comments on here, I see some are falling into the tabloid trap. It looks like she left her rings or decided to not wear her rings, and that added fuel to the fire. Next we will see William & Kate together and speculation will calm down.
May 1st, 2008 14:49
Well JENNY - Pretty soon you’ll have to accept that Wills and Kate are still together and wipe that silly grin off your face. You know, I have a signet ring that my boyfriend gave me and I rarely take it off but yesterday I was doing work in the garden and got mud and dirt on it - So guess what? I took it off to have one of my friends clean it spotless and I still haven’t put it back on yet. Does that mean I have broken up with my boyfriend? NO! Big deal - Kate wasn’t wearing her ring. There could be a million reasons why it was taken off? How do you know it wasn’t lost or something? Are you with Kate all the time or are you a close friend of hers? I doubt it very much so just keep grinning Jenny - it seems like you want to see someone in that relationship miserable for some weire reason.
May 1st, 2008 14:50
CLAUDIUS - Very well written post. JENNY - you need to read his post because it makes 100% sense. Why do you feel the need Jenny to see Wills and Kate breakup? You must be a very unhappy person to wish ill of others.
May 1st, 2008 15:03
I’m with jenny i going to sit here with a grin on my face too. I don’t want anyone saying im a kate hater.
May 1st, 2008 15:09
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/kate14_2008/kate7-3.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/kate14-2008kate55.jpg
May 1st, 2008 15:24
Jade I’m not waiting unlike u waiting for an engagement. I currently getting ready for finals and want to sto and leave a comment. If there happy there happy. But to me all this out at a club with another man after william landed in your back yard. come on i no im not the only one seeing something wrong wit this relationship.
May 1st, 2008 15:25
I am still grinning,and it is bothering you is’nt it
May 1st, 2008 15:26
I don’t even agree that the tabloids are making it look like they broke up. This is almost a none story in the papers and on the net. Just a couple of hits if you google it. The story lives its own life here and on Royal Forum where everybody hates Kate and really wants them to break up. Just like Jenny and dmt1 diva. They seem to belong there, together withl those grinning people there.
May 1st, 2008 15:32
dagy i dont hate kate . hate is strong word that i dont use often. Not once have I said I hate Kate. So before you start calling people kate haters You need to do your research. What happen to having your own opinion I dont call u names so don’t call me one!!!!!!!!!
May 1st, 2008 15:33
alright dagy i will be nice ,until they announce a breakup,got to go to the nursing home to visit grandmother she is on hospice,so i won’t be posting much,jade will be very happy.will hope your doing fine with your wife gone.
May 1st, 2008 15:39
I didn’t call you names, I just suggested where you could belong with the grin you told us you had on your face.
May 1st, 2008 15:48
I just saying it funny how all this stuff comes up after william landed in her back yard. It als funny how everytime someone make a comment about kate that some peoplee don’t like they become kate haters. The grin on my face is because That the same guy that was picture at her flat in november.
May 1st, 2008 15:48
Jenny good wishes to your Grandmother.
It’s okay to grin. Have a good day.
May 1st, 2008 15:52
Yes (grinning too) that is the same guy who was seen leaving her flat a few months ago.
May 1st, 2008 15:56
amazing how this totally erased any bad PW pr from peoples minds. I think they are still together and closer than ever. She has been accompanied places before.
May 1st, 2008 15:59
Hi Claudius,
Super to cross swords with you again.. At least we are civilised whilst some commentators here are, well…………………………………. If I say it Steven will ban me for ever.
Claudius, believe me, that ring has not been off Kate’s finger since 2004, day or night, rowing,dancing, drinking and even during their various break ups, that ring stayed in place.
Claudius, there is something wrong and somehow I feel that it has something to do with Peter’s stag party in IOW. There was so much said but unsaid there about William’s involvement that it gave an impression that something was being held back.
I have views about William in Bounemouth,Dorchester, IOW area perhaps left unsaid. William will never be monogamous, his genes are against him and I know that I repeat myself here. Sorry.
It will be interesting now to see what happens at the forthcoming wedding and at the Garter Ceremony. Both are important pointers and by then we may have lots cleared up.
Trixie made an interesting comment referring to somethink Kate once said about what she wanted in life; a husband,a home and a family.
Perhaps therefore she thinks now that at 26 that should be a lot nearer that it obviously is.
My own view is that if Kate and William don’t get together, and get together very very soon, they could very quickly breakup for good. If that happens, neither will have the fortitude to build up a comparable relationship because everything they do ,say or try with a new partner will bring back memories.
These old memories would be a psychological barrier, a barrier very difficult to overome and hence build up an almost unbreakable wall between any new partners.
William could very easily have to settle for an arranged marriage, for as an heir or even a King he will have to preserve the succession.
Kate on the other hand will have difficulty finding her own “prince” so may remain single for ever.
There are Guys and Ladies on here who have gone though this type of trauma and know how difficult it will be.
I’m a lucky Guy.
May 1st, 2008 16:06
did anyone else notice the band-aid on her right thumb?
May 1st, 2008 16:23
Will, you know that I respect your comments but I think you are getting a little ahead of yourself. What everyone on here should focus on is the wedding that is coming up this month and the Garter ceremony. I just honestly believe that William & Kate are fine and not paying any attention to these things that the tabloids are trying to cook up. They are too busy for that childishness. The girl looked like she had a great time out with her and William’s friend and that’s all there’s to it. I’m sitting here waiting for the wedding day pictures and people on this site talking about a breakup. There was breakup rumors during the week before William graduated and then there they were, looking happy and supportive of each other. And she sat near The Prince of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall and Diana’s sister. That’s a sign of a formal relationship not I’m about to breakup. And if you visit http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1304_wills.shtml You can see a blurry picture of them after the ceremony giving each other a kiss and hug. That’s what I’m trying to tell everyone on here, not to fall into the tabloid trap. Even if I have to stand alone on this, I’m seeing two people who are happy and getting on with their lives while the press and people on here are doubting. I’m for one is happy for them. And if William & Kate are reading this, I just want to say to them. Keep on doing what you have to do William & Kate, don’t let the doubters and haters ruin what you know is good and your happiness. Will, I hope you and I try our best to keep hope alive on this site, because as I can see this site needs that. Hope.
May 1st, 2008 16:32
You are not alone Claudius!
May 1st, 2008 16:36
Thanks maddie.
May 1st, 2008 16:40
Claudius,
Count me in too.
May 1st, 2008 16:52
I wonder if she hurt her hand she does have a band-aid on her thumb
May 1st, 2008 16:59
Cree she is doing this for WILLIAM, because in Mali Last week I had criticisms of the helicopter
MIDDLETON has to make news even if it is assumed WILLIAM break with what need to counteract the bad reputation who have WILLIAM Now, all this is a lie to protect
I’m sorry Kate I DO NOT IN YOUR Cree stupidities …
May 1st, 2008 17:03
Claudius, you can count on me too. You said something that I have wanted to say but I didn’t. I did see a band aid and she may have cut her finger or something.
May 1st, 2008 17:29
Hi Claudius,
Thanks for comment.
You know that I would love to see William and Kate together for ever but so much is happening in and to their lives from the outside that I believe that they are no longer in charge of their own estiny.
William has had many chances to make Kate his, and each time he has bottled it. The big question is why?
We have both said on here that the way for William to cut out all newspaper talk, and all comment and supposition is to do the honourable thing.
He has failed himself and failed Kate and now people can’t help asking why? People relate what happens in their own lives, their own loves, and their own feelings to the way William and Kate should be feeling.
Kate is a modern woman, a very intelligent lady, in fact it has often been said that she is a lot more intelligent than William.
That may be a problem.
Kate is able mainly just by appearing to attract more attention than William can.
That may be another problem.
Remember Charles resented Diana because she was more popular than he was and William becomes more like Charles every day.
Kate is an honourable person, she has proved that thousands of times by her loyalty to William and by her love for William and her steadfastness in keeping her own council.
William has let Kate down many times and been forgiven when he has made promises. Promises which he has by general consensus, broken time after time.
That may be another problem.
Kate has remained faithful by all accounts.
William has not.
That is another problem.
Kate has proved her love for William by being his loyal and loving companion for many years.
William reportedly told his family that he wasn’t sure he loved Kate ENOUGH.
That is another problem.
If I stay up all night I could find or make up many more problems, and it is all these problems that will, or has come between Kate and William.
He is a ditherer and finds it difficult to make decisions on his own life. If he wasn’t and loved Kate why hasn’t he done something to protect her from the build up of adverse comments. These are not comments from newpapers but from ‘informed sources’ and we know where they eminate from.
He has badly let her down but noone really knows how serious all this is.
I, like many oher notice things, I noticed how after the ‘Wings’ ceremony, as Kate and William walked away from he cameras she put her hand on his arm and he just pressed it to his body before letting go. That to me was a sign of the feelings they have for one another.
To consumate these feeling William must show that in his own life he has grown up and make Kate his own, but he has to do it soon. If he doesnt all the adverse comments, the infidelities, and the outside pressures will force them apart.
The photographs today showing Kate without her ring was the most depressing sight I have seen over the years I have followed their love affair.
It must be a sign, she has never before appeared without it. Now ,if he loves her and wants her he has to show everyone who has noticed the absence of that ring that it was a mistake, whatever that mistake was.
In the main photograph, the one taken from your link Claudius, Kate looked happy. It wasn’t he Guy sharing her car who made her happy, it may just be that she has made a decision on her own life and feels happy about it.
If that decision is as I suspect, William may,just may have a chance to do something about it. But quickly.
Kate could walk away.
May 1st, 2008 17:38
We just have to see Will. I think there’s two weeks left to the wedding and I can’t wait to see it.
May 1st, 2008 17:54
Guys, Kate did not appear with William at the charity dinner tonight but he’s making a hit at the dinner himself. He looks very good too. He dresses the way I like to dress.
May 1st, 2008 18:57
Bravo CLAUDIUS and well said!! Let the doubters and haters keep having a go at Kate and William. It’s not like they have any inside information or know the 2 of them at all. Like I said, some people thrive on seeing other people unhappy or have their relationships not work out. But, I think these people will be quite surprised in the end. I only wish the best for Kate and William, whether or not they marry.
May 1st, 2008 19:00
The ‘Mystery Guy” is her first love Willem marx, from college. No wonder she’s not wearing any rings.
May 1st, 2008 19:18
Oh, well if that is him there’s nothing wrong with her being seen with him.
May 1st, 2008 19:30
I just read this about wilem marx
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/1919197/Kate-Middleton-finds-an-old-comrade-in-Willem-Marx.html
May 1st, 2008 19:55
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Mandrake can disclose that the “mystery man” is Willem Marx, who was her boyfriend at Marlborough College. “He was her first love,” claims one of his chums.
Kate is not the only attractive brunette to have been squired by Marx, an Oxford graduate who works for the American television channel ABC News.
He also romanced the Lancôme model Elettra Rossellini, a granddaughter of Ingrid Bergman.
TELEGRAPH :Mandrake
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Even more interesting, she’s out with her old boyfriend. This is the same guy who was spotted leaving her flat a few months ago.
No ring, handsome successful old boyfriend…hhhmmmmmmmm
May 1st, 2008 20:00
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm indeed,merrick!
Only small blerb of the cherity bash from The Associated Press, Kate’s still over shadowing PW.Good press, bad press,Kate is queen of maistream media!
May 1st, 2008 20:48
who is that man what is doing partying again and one more thing she is not probally a princess wait…. and think pw will choose kate to br is queen or rather i say is wife
May 1st, 2008 21:08
What it boils down to is this - William and Kate will either get formally engaged in the near future and perhaps marry sometime next year or they will decide themselves to end the relationship. But either way, this is between them and all the gossip and rumors can’t change that fact. If Kate is fed up with William, you’ll hear about it soon enough that she has decided to end things and if William is not going to commit and decides to end things and let Kate get on with her life, you’ll also hear about it.
But it is their decision and theirs alone.
If William can go out and party with his buddies and other girls including at that stag party, I don’t see the big deal about Kate going out with a friend. So what if he’s a guy friend? Alot of women have men friends and vice versa. Let’s stop reading too much into this, please.
May 1st, 2008 21:17
Jade Falzon, I’m totally with you on this but everyone will read more into it because it’s entertaining and more interesting to talk about. Now that’s a sad case. They are friends. Lets see what comments will be on here when Peter’s wedding day arrives and Kate will get out the car or bus with William and the rest of the royal family. They may walk from the castle to the wedding.
May 1st, 2008 21:23
True we all have friends of the opposite sex unless you are really insecure.
May 1st, 2008 21:37
if william took jecca craig out to dinner with a big red bag what would you say?
May 1st, 2008 21:42
So what if William had dinner with Jecca Craig? They are friends and how do you know what was in that red bag? Now you’re just being ridiculous.
I guess Jenny that you see everything in black and white - it’s either your way or it’s wrong. And Maddie is right - we all have friends of the opposite sex unless you’re really insecure.
At least Rman, Maddie, Claudius and I are open-minded and aren’t constantly condemning these people. You are a Kate-basher and have issues about this woman who you don’t even know so I guess you have alot of anger in you.
May 1st, 2008 21:43
By the way Jenny - when are you predicting a divorce for Peter and Autumn? I’m shocked you have nothing negative to say about them, especially Autumn.
May 1st, 2008 21:54
I rather like autumn she doesn’t play games.even ingid stewar of majesty magazine said kate leaks things to the press through friends.noone ever says that about autumn ,or chelsy.says alot to me.I am having a wait ,and see attitude on this one,but lets admit if it had been william and jecca the press would be singing a different tune
May 1st, 2008 22:21
I agree Jenny. If it had been Pr. William, Pr. Harry or Chelsy going away in a cab with some old boyfriend,all the press would be questioning it.
This outing for Kate was some kind of show for someone. She could have easily went to a less paparazzi covered place and just hung out with her old boyfriend.
May 1st, 2008 23:13
Yeah she could have but she is very confident in being seen with male friends and letting everyone know that she’s not in a relationship with someone who don’t trust her and thinks she shouldn’t be seen with her male friends. I tell you that William & Kate are in a mature relationship that is becoming more formal by the day. I bet you next we will see her with her rings firmly back on and smiling with William or with her family. William looked very good and happy tonight and not down because she was out with a friend the night before. Everything is good and that is clear.
May 2nd, 2008 00:34
Kate is playing games
- show Wiliam that she can find a replacement rather quickly
- Willam chases after Kate (again)
-This time he proposes ???
- Kate gets wan she has been waiting for, and everyone is happy…
Queue music, release the doves etc etc…
Have we not all seen this already??
May 2nd, 2008 00:46
Hi Guys,
Morning all.
Rman, Kate wanted to go with William to that dinner last eavening. It would have been a wonderful occasion for her but h e again pulls out whenver he has to publicly acknowledge her.
I’m beginning to understand the DM’s confusion over the Wings ceremony. Kate wasn’t there as William’s guest and she really wasn’t supposed to have been there.
Think back a few days before when they were at the Van S.’s charity show. Who was Kate seen with and who did she spend times with. William’s aunt who many said she seemed to get on with very well.
Who did she arrive and leave Cranwell with. William’s aunt. So its possible that she iniiated Kate’s visit as her companion and William would have had difficulty explaining why he didn’t want Kate there. That would explain the confusion as to why initially it was reported that Kate wouldn’t be present.
As a matter of interest who was the young girl sitting on Kate’s left at the ceremony ? Any reports?
Over he past years, William has certainly made it clear that he doesn’t want Kate at any formal or official gathering. The reason is obvious. She takes the limelight away from him and again I say that is exactly like his father sulked whenever Diana got more attention.
This has obviously grown into a problem with William and Kate has reacted, and reacted spectacularly. Perhaps he instucted her not to go out on the night before the Dinner knowing full well the attention it would get.
Kate goes out to the place she knows will attract attention and by chance meets up with her old friend. He wasnt obvously dressed for a formal night out and even had his overnight bag to doss out at some friends pad.
When she left, possibly having invited Willen to stay over as he has obviously done before, did she leave by the back door. No way.
William will not like Kate’s evning out and resulting publicity. Perhaps she’s playing a dangerous game, I’m sure it’s not a desperate game but how spectaularly successful was it and to empharsize it, she leaves her ring off and enures everyone and William sees that and speculates.
Yet another fairy tale but in the absence of other information , it could be true.
Agree ?
May 2nd, 2008 01:08
Well that is a bit far off Will but when they was at the Van S.’s charity show, people said that she couldn’t keep her eyes off him. They danced romanticly and they stold the show. Also it would have been great to see Kate at the dinner with William but that was an official engagement and they would have to engaged for her to attend such a event at Guildhall. We will see her at the wedding in two weeks and she will be with the royal family. Putting the speculation to rest once again. You are right joydrop, you have seen this before. People will think other things but William & Kate always put them back in their place. William will find the right time to present her to the public officially, but it have to be at the right time. If she stills the show ten so be it. If he don’t want that to happen then he should move on to an ugly girl. If not be grateful for what you got and he got one beautiful woman who is loyal and he can trust. She has not made one mistake while she has been linked to him and she keeps a low profile as well. William knows what he’s doing and she will accompany him to more events in the future. But Peter’s wedding is what everyone is waiting for.
May 2nd, 2008 01:19
thanks for the link who is this mystery man and i thinked kate is partying again, and quiting her job. just for wills!, she’s not a princess i wait!, claud thankyou for the links.
May 2nd, 2008 01:38
Hi Rman,
Perhaps, just perhaps she may not be there.
By the way did she get an invite to hen party.
Check it out
May 2nd, 2008 06:17
Kate is a faithfull ladies! my feeling saying that! i guess that guy is her pal & maybe wills know about that guy and give him permission to go with her lover of course! but if kate want to get affair with that guy, that a revenge for wills cause before they split at april 2007 wills ever go to a club with another girl without kate, remember that?????
May 2nd, 2008 06:25
1. Nobody here knows Kate’s thoughts about last nights dinner.
2. But it is likely that she knew very well that she wouldn’t be going. She never goes to these kind of public events as his guest or whatever
3. Senior royals have to be at least engaged to take their other half to a genuinely public event.
4. If William had taken Kate to the dinner last night that would have caused the media to go crazy
5. The media would have started a campaign that would probably have taken a lot away from the royal wedding in a couple of weeks’ time.
6. Kate was William’s guest at the wing seremony. His aunt would of course not take her there if William was against it!Her aunt was not in a position to invite anybody. William was. And it was obvious ffrom his behaviour that he liked his company.
7. The girl sitting to the left of Kate was William’s cousin. It’s interesting that a person who claims that he knows the thoughts and feelings and private lives of both William and Kate, doesn’t recognize his cousin.There aren’t that many of them.
It’s also very intersting that somebody that knows Kate so well that he can tell us about her inner feelings doesn’t recognize friends she has had since she was a teenager.
May 2nd, 2008 06:59
I agree dagy,her not attending last nights charity dinner doesn’t say anything. This was an official royal engagement for William not a party hosted by a friend like the van Straubenzee event in early April. The reports of that event all stated that they attended as a couple and OK even had pics of them arriving together. He was holding her hand.
And last night was not a “private” ceremony for William like the wings either. Kate was listed as William’s guest on the guest list to the wings ceremony so I doubt that Lady Sarah decided to bring her along. Even if dagy is right that William looked ver yhappy to have her there.
Last night William was attending as member of the RF not as a private person and not as a “soldier” either. Kate never accompanied him to such an event before and I assume no other member of the RF ever took a g/f to an official royal engagement either. Hence her lack of appearance doesn’t make any statement on their relationship even if her Bouji night out might.
May 2nd, 2008 07:06
And that teenager friend, happened to be in the UK for just a stop, the he friend who was her ex, is further studying Journalism in the University of NY. You’d all be surprised if you’d make further investigation before…like for example he was in Iraq with very interesting information.
May 2nd, 2008 07:08
The he friend was there in the UK for an Interview with, and wrote an article for a magazine….uhhhmmm guys do further investigation, serious stuff. I’ll be back in a while and post the link.
May 2nd, 2008 07:12
I don’t understand the policy that the British RF have, why must one be engaged before attending offical events. I don’t believe that other royal families have that same outlook. I remember reading somewhere that in Sweden the Prince (?) has a long term girlfriend and is seen at the formal events with him. I think (in my humble little op.) that PW should start bringing her to offical events like the garter ceremony, sure the talk would start a wildfire, but after awhile it would die down if he continued to bring her along to different functions.
May 2nd, 2008 07:28
Looks like Willem Marx studied journalism in NY and works as a freelance writer now (mainly in the US, I assume).
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/21/i_was_a_propaganda_intern_in
http://harpers.org/subjects/WillemMarx
Kate has good taste in men.
William definitely seems to be her “type” then. Tall, blond, handsome and intelligent. And I don’t think William has any reason to worry. He was her b/f at Malboro almost 10 years ago. I doubt she still harbours any romantic feelings for him.
May 2nd, 2008 07:33
Very good Trixie. Your fast or faster then I mam.
May 2nd, 2008 08:10
William’s not worried,neither is Willem. They know she’ll be available when a boyfriend phones her.
….previously posted:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/1919197/Kate-Middleton-finds-an-old-comrade-in-Willem-Marx.html
merrick
May 1st, 2008 19:55
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Mandrake can disclose that the “mystery man” is Willem Marx, who was her boyfriend at Marlborough College. “He was her first love,” claims one of his chums.
Kate is not the only attractive brunette to have been squired by Marx, an Oxford graduate who works for the American television channel ABC News.
He also romanced the Lancôme model Elettra Rossellini, a granddaughter of Ingrid Bergman.
TELEGRAPH :Mandrake
May 2nd, 2008 08:14
William is not worried, neither is Willem,they know she’ll always be available when the phone rings.
previously posted
merrick
May 1st, 2008 19:55
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Mandrake can disclose that the “mystery man” is Willem Marx, who was her boyfriend at Marlborough College. “He was her first love,” claims one of his chums.
Kate is not the only attractive brunette to have been squired by Marx, an Oxford graduate who works for the American television channel ABC News.
He also romanced the Lancôme model Elettra Rossellini, a granddaughter of Ingrid Bergman.
TELEGRAPH :Mandrake
———————————————–quote
May 2nd, 2008 09:34
Hi Guys,
Mr Marx was at Oxford about 5/6 years ago and I seem to remember that he managed to get himself into some sort of minor trouble there.
I am sure tha he’s been around but I don’t think he’s inWilliam’s crowd.
Any stories on the absence of Kate’s ring. That’s important!
May 2nd, 2008 10:40
He is a friend of Kate’s and in her crowd. Are you unfamiliar with her crowd maybe?
And the rings,not only one ring, were left at home. Let’s say she had done some work where she had removed her rings first, then she injured one finger. A bit of spring cleaning or gardening or whatever people do this time of the year.
I obviously don’t know, but my story is as believable as stories about her removing her rings to show William she doesn’t care for him or that she has a new boyfriend.
May 2nd, 2008 11:47
Well, everyone on here know that has been very good throughout her relationship and will do nothing to mess this up. The way Willem Marx looked in that cab, will tell you that he was very uncomfortable being pictured with the future kings woman. It’s one of the reasons why people treat her with kid gloves because is the companion of William’s. It’s seemed like Kate tried to make him feel welcomed and not to be afraid, William won’t beat him up. I also read that she checks with William before she do anything publicly.
May 2nd, 2008 11:55
Dear God,
Please, please, please let William find someone to keep him distracted so he doesn’t fall for Kate’s **** in the press trying to get him back again. ** BRW - Watch the language thanks! **
May 2nd, 2008 12:55
She doesn’t need to try and “get him back”. She hasn’t lost him since last summer.
May 2nd, 2008 12:56
MAIDEN - I think you really need to watch your foul language when you post something. Have respect for other people. The need to curse shows a person with a very small mind and it’s unnecessary and offensive.
May 2nd, 2008 13:04
Yeah Maiden, I don’t want to read any foul language on this site, do you understand me? We just don’t do that on here. And no she never lost him. Get the facts straight.
May 2nd, 2008 13:14
I really think the lack of William’s ring is significant. She ALWAYS has it on. It’s an indication of something, I would bet. Of course, maybe it’s getting repaired…who really knows. I just find it very odd she’s out with another guy and the ring is missing! She had to know people would notice.
May 2nd, 2008 13:31
Whatever, the story Lost front homepage, its not there any more, you’ve got to search it.
May 2nd, 2008 13:37
In the DM at least - first one to come up with her night out in Bouji with old friend.
May 2nd, 2008 13:55
Yeah, people notice that nothing is wrong and I have seen pictures of her without the ring before. She just had a nice time out. We may see them before the wedding. It’s the weekend.
May 2nd, 2008 13:58
The main story is out of Kate using the gym at Clarence House. The next big will be the wedding.
May 2nd, 2008 14:00
you get mad at maiden for swearing,but it’s ok for kate to moon people,and have many lover’s ,before william.double standard?
May 2nd, 2008 14:08
Mooning, many lovers - speculation dear.
May 2nd, 2008 14:09
I think no foul language should be used, at least for minimum asterisks would help.
May 2nd, 2008 14:40
many publications have stated she had a live in boyfriend ,before will,and an affair with a guy named harry after malboroe colledge,then there is this first love guy
May 2nd, 2008 15:03
William wouldn’t be dating someone with a great past like that Jenny and yes I got mad at maiden for using bad language because that shouldn’t be used here. I wonder will we see any royals attend the Badminton Horse Trials this year.
May 2nd, 2008 15:03
JENNY - First of all, Kate Middleton does not post on this site. MAIDEN does and needs to watch the foul language because it insults the rest of us, except for you. Secondly, it’s really rather ridiculous comparing what MAIDEN wrote and what you THINK Kate Middleton did. One thing has nothing to do with the other. I post on this site and I don’t need to read curse words and neither does anyone else. Where is your logic about everything??
May 2nd, 2008 15:05
Oh please Jenny - why is it okay for William to have past affairs and flings and quite possibly have cheated on Kate, but she is a “bad girl” because she had boyfriends before him (like most normal women) and may or may not have lived with someone? Again, you use no logic.
May 2nd, 2008 15:07
not to call you out jenny, but who hasn’t had a first love?
and for her having a live in boyfriend, so what she was an adult.
no one really knows what goes on, this is all speculation, we’ll see what is going in the next few weeks. I’ll wait for the wedding.
May 2nd, 2008 15:10
Your right I shouldn’t have used that word and I do appalogize for that. I was in a hurry and didn’t think about it. It was wrong.
But I still think me and Jenny are right.
May 2nd, 2008 15:16
wiing for the wedding,and waiting,and waiting,and waiting,what’s it been 4-6years now depends on which magazine you read people magazine says they have been dating since the day they met in 2002,o
thers say 2003?
as forlogic this relationship lost that a long time ago.at the very least you can admit it is disfunctional
May 2nd, 2008 15:17
And you guys act like they (KM & PW) were just
together. Last time was 4-11, the garden landing happened 4-3. They may have broken up after the stag party and there is nothing wrong about her being over it by now and going out with an old bf.
May 2nd, 2008 15:18
beatrice was just recently spotted with someone who looked like her brother and know kate is seen with someone who looks exctly like william…….thats creepy
May 2nd, 2008 15:18
the palace knows for every ex boyfiend kate has had.that equals one bbok that will be written about her,if she ,and william get engaged
May 2nd, 2008 15:20
good point,in some of the photos she looked drunk.I thought she was a demur lady.
May 2nd, 2008 15:20
not really, not for the royal way of life.
Prince Carl Philip of Sweden has been with the same girl since the late 99 or early 2000, their not engaged yet either. They don’t live or think the same way we do, nor should we expect them to.
May 2nd, 2008 15:25
she must feel good enough to be a girlfriend,but not a wife.carl should marry her by now ,or move on .poor girl she must be so disillusioned by now
May 2nd, 2008 15:27
Very true,Jenny. Do you think she did this(old b/f thing)’cause she was told that PW was bringing an old flame instead of her. Off come the gloves, sorry rings, snub PW. Just a thought.
May 2nd, 2008 15:40
she often does this public thing to get william’s attention.sad it usually works.he did look good in his tux though .who was the ex wiliam took?
May 2nd, 2008 15:42
Hi Guys,
Still think something od is going on out there but don’t think Mr. Marx had anything to do with it. However it would be interesting to know where she dropped hm off on the way home.
I believe that William has quite a few ‘Royal Duties’ over the next week or so, but I also think that he will be away on holiday before joining up into the Navy.
Where he goes to no body knows, nor who he’ll go with, but it will be interesting to see the destination if he goes alone. Bets anyone ?
Someone mentioned the stag party, and I do think that it may well have been a source of problems for someone!
Bad planning Dorset/IOW
May 2nd, 2008 15:45
I am reading on other sites that harry mightbe engaged,if he is ,atleast he is stepping up to the plate
May 2nd, 2008 15:46
Did something new happen? They’ve been saying that for a few weeks now.
May 2nd, 2008 15:51
true they have ,but it’s popping up again.who knows with the royals
May 2nd, 2008 15:54
Would be great if it’ true,But maybe the breaky with her parents was more of a, if you’ll stick with her,ONLY, then blessings. If half baked, leave her alone till she’s finished school.
May 2nd, 2008 15:58
He may go on vacation with Kate before he goes to the navy. He has a list of engagements coming up and the wedding is on the 17th so he may just leave after the wedding. People are talking about an engagement when this boy is clearly busy and won’t do anything like that until later this year or next year. Will, I think your right that she dropped him home as well. Yes Jenny, the palace knows about the guys from her past but William has control over these things and she know that it was okay for her to drop him off at home. She don’t do things that wil upset him or his family and I’m sure he knows about everything about her past. They have been together for years now.
May 2nd, 2008 16:10
i will take wild guess, Will…how about his charity in Africa since he will be too busy in the summer to check it out and probably stay there for a couple of weeks??? If he does go somewhere else, he usually brings about 10 of his closest friends like the previous times….
i second the interesting part about the cab ride…hehehe…
the only interesting about the stag party was his pants was pulled down during 2am drinking game….hahhahah….
May 2nd, 2008 16:12
Ouch. I just read the comments. People are really getting fed up with her.
May 2nd, 2008 16:20
Hi benign,
Believe pants down was not only misdemeanour!
Chesck out ‘Dorset/IOW’lead
May 2nd, 2008 16:30
Will, I tried the Dorset/IOW, pet sitting? tourist info? Too cryptic, man.
May 2nd, 2008 17:21
**
May 2nd, 2008 17:37
and this has to do with
are you referring to the Royal Boroughs and Hospitality investments since the 17th century ?
May 2nd, 2008 17:48
Okay Benign, but I’m still curious, what do you want to share with us all (Will he he) about that ? tell us.
May 2nd, 2008 17:56
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May 2nd, 2008 18:29
I third that …Interesting Cab ride and the timing of it was interesting too.
May 2nd, 2008 21:28
Jenny - Why this deep anger at Kate Middleton? William is far from being an angel, wouldn’t you agree? Why do you blame everything on her? He’s turning into his father in many ways - I have to agree with Will on that. He’s a ditherer, which is what Prince Philip always called Prince Charles who was afraid of commitments. And even after he finally, after all those years, was able to marry Camilla, he still doesn’t seem all that happy and there are stories all over about her being fed up with him and fed up with being a royal wife. Whether that’s true or not, I don’t know - I’m not privy to their lives and neither is anyone else here.
** BRW - Please attack the comment not the author, Thanks **
May 2nd, 2008 21:29
RMAN - I agree completely with your post!
May 2nd, 2008 21:45
Hi benign,
Early Morning all,
Yes know the Duke, just off Old Bromton.
Who’s a brain box then ! Who enjoys the company.
Nice wines too, but always large glasses175cl
benign, sh sh sh
May 2nd, 2008 22:04
waiting for the othe rshoe to drop,til I say anyting more.william’s fine to share her with another man,ie friendship,but hates it when she gets all the attention.curious
May 2nd, 2008 22:08
He’s cool about it, he better be !
May 2nd, 2008 22:22
Hi Steven or BRW,
please delete my post May 2, 2008 17:21, 17:44 and 17:56 since it was out of topic…thank you so much…
** BRW - done! **
May 2nd, 2008 22:23
Hi Will,
very funny post… thanks for the answer….have a wonderful day….thanks again…
May 3rd, 2008 03:20
William isn’t able to make a committment? He has been with the same woman for almost 5 years now? I guess then that Mike and Harry are both “dithering” as well because neither is married. Why is it drilled into some people’s head so much that one has to get married after this-and-that amount of time no matter the age or phase of life one is in?
Did Charles ever have a relationship lasting that long before he married Diana whom he hardly knew? I doubt it. If I remember correctly Charles had multiple relationships with a number of aristocratic “suitable” women.William hasn’t.
Seriously all the “dithering” is just in the heads of the press, who’ve been getting way ahead of themselves speculating about an engagement. Of course they then have to cover their backs and explain why the “wedding of the century” never came. And of course it’s all William’s fault because the guy at 25 hasn’t proposed yet. God beware the tabs admitting that they don’t have a clue what William and Kate have planned for their future. To me it looks like William is following a “life plan”, i.e. university, military and then starting full-time royal duties including a marriage. That’s also why he said he won’t marry before 28. I guess that age has been pushed forward a bit now because it looks like they’ll cut his military service short.
Had he married Kate before doing full time engagements himself, she’d overshadow him even more than she will anyways. She’d be seen out and about doing charity work while he’d be off somewhere in a barrack training. It sounds much more reasonable to have them start royal life and duties together.
The idea that he hasn’t proposed yet because he’s uncertain about her isn’t the only explanation. To me this could as well be a very considerate decision to ease both of them into Royal life. But then that doesn’t sell papers, does it?
May 3rd, 2008 06:43
I agree with Trixie. And in a modern relationship the proposal isn’t that important anyway. The partners talk and then agree on when they are getting married. It’s of course not up to just the guy. Kate and William have probably agreed on when it’s right for them to get married. She is not waiting for his proposal not knowing when it is going to happen.
May 3rd, 2008 09:27
Hi guys,
Trixie and dagy you are hitting the point right on the head. It’s a plan that William has and he’s following through with it wonderfully. He’s going to ease her into the royal life and just the way we saw her conduct herself in public at royal events like the graduation ceremony in 2006 and recently this years graduation, she seem to be doing a fine job. What I really like that he is doing more royal duties and supporting that charities that is close to his heart.
May 3rd, 2008 12:24
Hi Guys,
I think lots of points are being made which are quite valid and posibly sensible.
However, the ‘William Life Plan’ may now be open to question.
I have been in Birmingham all day for a case conference which unfortunately went on and on, with the only pleasure being the lunch at the Hyatt hote.
Travelling back by train, someone had left a copy of the Daily Mail, which I dont usually get but thought it would help pas the time.
A small paragraph, headed “His Royal Hypocrite” a damning article criticising William’s “heroic” flight to Afghanistan and a further critiisism of his attempt to console the family of the trooper who had died in an ambush. Apparently “they preferred to grieve in private -with a real hero ”
This followed on from a severe criticism yesterday by Senior Service Officers who warned the War Office that they should be more careful in the way that they used Prince William.
Thinking this article a little irresponsible I continued to read and a few pages on a two page spread extolling the virtues or otherwise of the “Harry Heads and “The Willabees” whose main ai is to “bag a prince” with no thoughts for Chelsey or Kate’s feelings. (Incidentally most of these work for me, JOKE)
I had earlier been reading Janice Turner in The Times where amongst other outlandish comments she suggested that it would now be better for the monarchy if a “Vote for King, by texting 0801 if you want William, 0802 for Harry ” and so on.
It would appear at William’s popularity is now very low throughout the country although there was a indication that the passage of the Crown from HM direct to William was better than an interim ‘kingship’ from Charles.
Back to the life plan. Would William’s popularity be much higher now had he married Kate a year ago to bask in the glow of her popularity which was at its height, instead of embarking on what now seems to be considered as a puplic relations excercise of serving in the RAF and Royal Navy ?
It may be that he has fallen between the two stools and will have difficulty in regaining the popularity of his future subjects.
Think also of the additional negative popularity should he and Kate not go through with expectations.
What a life !
Who’d be a Prince ?
Thought for the day . Perhaps all this accounts for the sudden interest in Harry’s supposed engagement (he still has to get Queens permission as he’s under 25 year) and possible marriage and the boost to the succession.
Phew.
Who know?
May 3rd, 2008 13:46
Hi Guys,
Again.
Trixi, don’t think William isnt experienced. He is and there are one or two older ladies who have helped out. I’m sure he knows what is what but I can’t agree that one needs multiple relationships to determine one’s true feelings.
I know I didn’t.
The length of time that one has with a partner is however very important. To be friends before being lovers is so crucial especially after the first rush of love.
I also do not think that it is just the press’ opinion that William is a ditherer I believe that in many ways he is unable to finalise a decision. Harry in fact is a help to William in that respect and again it helps that they are so close. It has been said that William confides in Harry and respects his opinions which is somewhat strange for a older sibling. The loss of Diana was a bigger blow to William than to most as he always asked for and received her blessing and support in most things.
Your comment on Kate overshadowing William is so very true and it may well be that he finds it difficult to talk to her about problems because of this uncertainty. It is well reported that he discussed his mother’s death and inquest with Jessica Craig and an American friend, as well as his relationship with Kate. All this to Kate’s annoyance and rage. I am told she does have a forceful personality which propably adds to her allure.(or not). The fact that Kate can overshadow William and appearsto be more popular is, I think, a great problem for them both.
I am not sure how not proposing helps to ease them into public life ? I feel that if William is serious about Kate then it would be to both their benefit if he was now introducing her to some of his charities thus instructing her on what is required before she inroduces her own charities.
Remember, that if they marry it is almost certain that children will follow quickly especially in view of Kate’s age, so she will not have time for charities , and it is usual for engagements to be short so that time will not be long enough for her to understand or be introduced into the complexities. This period of her life could have been better managed by her and others but it may not be all her fault.
Hi dagy, I think that in royal circles a proposal and acceptance is of huge importance and that is why so much is made of it. To them it is not just the confirmation of mutual love, it is also a contact, hopefully for life.
In any case, what can be more loving than a proposal from your lover. Nothing in my view and I know it was the happiest day of my life when “YES” was answered despite our having been together through University and a couple of years after that.
Yes couples discus their lives and futures but nothing ,but nothing can replace hat proposal and a loving acceptance.
I’m getting all soppy now
Bye
May 3rd, 2008 23:41
more on Kate’s night out with Willem in the Daily Mail.
quote:………………………………………….
On Wednesday Willem and Kate, who were at school together, enjoyed an alcohol-fuelled night out at the Royals’ favourite nightclub, Boujis in South Kensington.
……………………………Daily Mail 5/4/08
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Party Girl: Kate MIddleton took Willem to William’s favourite club
William was nowhere to be seen as Kate ordered rounds of her favourite Crack Daddies cocktail and danced with Willem
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Daily Mail 5/4/08
As Jenny said, I’m waiting for the other “shoe” (or should I say Boot!) to drop!!!!
May 4th, 2008 02:47
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=563806&in_page_id=1879&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
A link for a new article on Willem and Kate. This guy is beginning to look like James Bond. lol.
May 4th, 2008 06:02
I like Kate. Leaving a nightclub with an ex boyfriend was sure to stir up media controversy. It begs the question - why not leave alone Kate?
May 4th, 2008 08:20
If she had left alone, the press would try to find out who she had been with anyway and they would have stated that she was trying to hide something. Would that have been better?
May 4th, 2008 10:04
I suppose Kate is one of those who doesn’t forget their first loves easily. He can’t have broken her heart that much if she’s still friends with him. It must have been one of those teen romances that just fizzled out into a friendship but they remain close. A lot of teen romances end like that. At least Kate knows how to handle her exs so that they don’t sell their stories.
May 4th, 2008 11:58
she hopes
May 4th, 2008 12:40
Would’t that be the coup de gras. Blackmail, espionage, money laundrying. Oh, the intriegue!
Could she be profiling her own love rat,for the RF and PW.
May 4th, 2008 12:40
Surely the Palace wasn’t impressed with her very public display with her former boyfriend the night before William has a Royal event. All press eyes on Kate and her former boyfriend, just where Kate obviously wanted it. It was attention seeking, no matter how some try to spin it here. This doesn’t look good. The Palace doesn’t need these Kate antics,coming into the House of Windsor.
She’s not helping her cause going to nightclubs with old boyfriends.
May 4th, 2008 13:46
That might be Merrick, but William seemed to be okay with it. She really don’t do things without checking with him first. That is what I read. She knows that everything she do in public will be front page news and they was okay with her showing him a good time. The Daily Mail and The Sun was very quick to make sure they get the message out there, that he was a friend and former teenage boyfriend. Nothing to be alarmed about.
May 4th, 2008 14:18
Why even put herself in the position of looking desperate. Kate was playing a jealous,attention seeking game imo.I doubt very much Kate cleared this display with William.
The press articles are not positive and hardly make her look like Queen Consort material imo.
She’s heading into Fergie territory.
She looks desperate for attention.
May 4th, 2008 14:37
I agree merrick
May 4th, 2008 14:41
as far as i can tell kate wasn’t at that Badminton
horse thing
May 4th, 2008 15:02
Hi Guys,
I don’t think there is anything at all in Mr Marx suddenly appearing on the scene despite the fact that he was OUTSIDE her flate before Christmas.
I think Kate wanted to go to the Mayor’s reception with William as he was told he should bring a guest.
In his usual manner, when ever personnal appearances are concerned when he may be overshadowed , he said no.
Kate, who is mo body’s push over decided to show him up, which she did in no uncertain manner. It worked, she got the headlines and next time he may think twice before ignoring or excluding her.
Interesting times . Eyes and ears Guys.
May 4th, 2008 15:23
Kate was never meant to go to that formal dinner. She knows that. People familiar with royal protocol know that.Her friend was in town that night and she got together some friends from school to give him a “send-off party”. It had nothing to do with prince Willia