William & Kate’s Romantic Getaway
Prince William and Kate Middleton will fly to the private Caribbean island of Mustique next week for a romantic holiday.
Palace insiders said William’s decision to ask Kate to stand in for him at Peter Phillips’s wedding yesterday underlined the strength of their relationship – and that their break would give them a chance to discuss their future.
An acquaintance of the couple said that William will join Kate, 26, on Mustique on Wednesday.
They will stay at the £1,785-a-night Villa Alumbrera, one of the island’s most opulent and secluded mansions. The villa is booked until May 28.
A source said: “William is due to start the last stage of his Royal Navy training in June, so it could just be that he wants to have some quality time with Kate in a place where they can be sure of total privacy. But it does seem that they may be getting down to serious discussion of their future.”
Read the entire article at the Daily Mail
May 18th, 2008 04:17
I really hope that they get to spend some time together before William joins the navy. I doubt though that they still need to discuss their future together. After almost 5 years, they certainly know where they are going.
Btw. does anyone know about William and Harry’s financial situation? Do they have an income of their own like revenues from a trust fund or do they get “pocket money” from dad? The army salery certainly isn’t enough for such lavish holidays.
May 18th, 2008 04:22
Is this the similar position Pr. Charles was in with Camilla thr first time round?
William should perhaps present Miss Middleton with a ring before he joins the navy.
May 18th, 2008 05:02
But William will only be gone for 3 months and I doubt Kate will find someone else to marry at short notice.
I don’t know how long Charles was with the Navy but it was significantlly longer.
May 18th, 2008 06:11
Oh so lucky girl kate middleton! carribean island is my dream for holiday! oh wills why you dont invited me in there! i’m so envy with kate, she’s a lucky girl! i just ever go to Singapore & Malaysia hiks..hiks..i never go to any other country cause i dont have much money to go in there! when i go to Singapore & Malaysia my auntie pay me cause i dont have money, so poor right!
May 18th, 2008 14:19
I don’t see why William can’t simply take Kate on holiday without everyone assuming they’ll get engaged. It’s more then likely he just wants to chill out before joining the Navy. Maybe after he finishes with the Navy he might decide to get engaged but I doubt before that as he’ll be too busy. Plus once an engagement is annouced the paps will go mad so he’ll need to be around to support his fiance. It’s no good him being overseas if she’s on her own having to deal with the media.
May 18th, 2008 14:45
Good point Jess. Unfortunately, people have a need to speculate and spread rumors, no matter how silly. Let William and Kate just enjoy their vacation.
What in the world was Beatrice wearing on her head at the wedding?? It looked like a swarm of butterflies got mad and attacked her head - LOL!
May 18th, 2008 15:17
beatrice hat was hilarious,like to know what the sales women said to her to make her buy it.whatever it was ,if she can sell that hat she can sell anything.
May 18th, 2008 15:27
Jess you are absolutely right. He too busy at the moment but I have doubt that he and Kate will get engaged soon but after he finishes his training. Beatrice hat was very unique in it’s own way. I didn’t like it but she really seemed to brightend up the wedding. I love to see women in hats but over here in America women don’t seem to do it much.
May 18th, 2008 20:53
who could be possible the next royal wedding
May 19th, 2008 00:29
I’m just going to take a wild guess and say the next royal wedding will be Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall. But then again, who knows? Might be Harry or might be William.
May 19th, 2008 02:44
I actually don’t think that’s such a wild guess, Jade.
May 19th, 2008 06:32
I agree with Jade. I believe Zara is next down the aisle. As for the boys it depends on how serious they are in there relationships. William and Kate worry me a bit.
I might be looking too far in to it but the picture of Kate in the DM was quite shocking. She looked like someone had died let alone got married. I thought she looked really sad. Shame on you William. You should be there supporting her not in Africa. Especially since she was facing his family on her own. He should support her a bit more if he is planning to make her his bride. I’d hate to have been her at the reception especially since Chelsy had Harry with her.
Where was William? In Africa. Kate looked like she needed some support at that wedding and it wasn’t there.
May 20th, 2008 00:15
yah its true, may be Zara will be the next to the royal wedding.
May 20th, 2008 00:27
JESS - I’m sure Kate was fine at the wedding and enjoyed herself. She is, unofficially now part of the Royal Family. I’m also certain that she was and is looking forward to her getaway with William this week. And why do people keep saying she looked so sad, she looked like someone died. Baloney - some of you just have this need to pick this woman apart.
TRIXIE - Why is it a wild guess that Zara and Mike might be the next royals to get married? What’s so wild about that? And I said it could be them or it could be William or Harry - nothing wild in that.
May 20th, 2008 00:28
TRIXIE - My apologies to you. I misread your statement and thought you said it was a wild guess. I’m sorry about my previous post because I tend to agree with you just about all of the time. My error!
May 20th, 2008 08:15
Jade - I am only commenting on what I see. It doesn’t mean I’m tearing the girl apart. I’m saying she looked sad because she did. Look at her eyes and tell me she looks happy. You take people way too seriously. Noone is allowed to make a single negative comment on Kate otherwise we’re picking her apart. Give it a rest.
May 20th, 2008 08:54
I’m a fan of Kate’s and I will admit that she did look off at the wedding. But I don’t think it was because she was sad, I think she looked off because of that awful hat she was wearing. To me I thought it looked like a hat one may wear to a funeral, and from what I read the weather was overcast, so combined the two will give the overall look of being sad I guess.
May 20th, 2008 13:01
JESS - you can make negative comments all you want but I was referring to certain other people who post on this sight that write downright nasty things about this woman, call her all sorts of names and don’t give her a chance. So, you give it a rest too. It’s boring to keep picking at one person - there’s so many other things to discuss on this site.
May 20th, 2008 13:55
Kates hat reminded me of a hat one would wear to a funeral as well. I didn’t care for it pink would have been better for a wedding
May 20th, 2008 17:28
Had Kate just come back from Kenya? If she did maybe she was just very tired. I had read that she had flown to Kenya with PW.
May 21st, 2008 01:04
I think that Kate Middleton has a very boring style for her age mainly because it is not evolving. I bit more of prime colors will not hurt.
May 21st, 2008 04:49
Personally I think everyone should have been wearing more butterflies!
May 21st, 2008 10:27
I do too, BRW! I love all the pics from the steps. Everyone,except the vicount and wife, looked wonderful. I’m looking for a kiss pic. I might have to go and buy the mag. I thought Kate looked wonderful in pink. minus the hat. The pic of her you could put the caption, “I know.. the hat…”
May 21st, 2008 16:32
Does anyone know when William is coming back from the wedding he attended?
May 21st, 2008 17:02
What wedding?
May 21st, 2008 17:08
Hi Guys,
I returned at weekend after 10 days in Boston,Massachusetts, and Cape Cod and just arrived home fom hospital again.
I understand that the verracity of the wedding date is suspect. Reporters from a few Uk newspapers have been chasing and are having difficulty finding anything out.
Has anyone heard anything, or know where Kate is ?
Interesting
May 21st, 2008 17:18
hi Will,
so you did get to see Liz…so cool….hope you had fun….
May 21st, 2008 17:19
Will - the Craig wedding.
Did you go to Nantucket?
May 21st, 2008 17:49
Hi Will, nice to have you back. Yes William went to the Craig wedding.
May 21st, 2008 17:50
Hi benign,
Yes, I was told I was fit to travel and left immediately after leaving hospital . Its good to have friends in the industry?l. My partners were so good about it and I couldnt wait to get to Liz. She was so surprised
She’s enjoying her work and my big fear is that she may not want to return, so perhaps.. well say no more.
Liz also arranged for the medical faculty to keep eyes on me but I was quite ok for the trip, however I had to get back for my fortnighly review.
I’ve had many visits to the states over the years but this was the first ‘holiday’ What a country!
Enough of me.
I have heard the nonsense going on here and something is seriously wrong in CH. What on earth are they playing at?
They are there to protect William and I can understand that, but twisted minds work mysteriously. ( I wanted to say ‘twistedly’ but I’m not sure if the words in the Oxford Dictionary.Perhaps it is .)
I dont think anything else can be said because its all supposition and we really don’t know but someone has to come out one day and start behaving like civilized people not morons.
At least get the lies correct or at least partly believable.
May 21st, 2008 17:53
Hi Ali,
I so wanted to cross over on the hydrofoil as I understand it only takes about an hour, but Liz was working and time ran out.
Hi Rman,
Where did you get confirmation ?
May 21st, 2008 17:55
Hi Guys,
Making p for lost time. Sorry.
I still have that nagging feeling that IOW stag weekend had something to do with it.
Rman, where are Kate and William now ?
May 21st, 2008 18:01
Hi Will, glad to hear from you.
Supposedly they are as of today in Mustique (latest mustique article said PW was to join KM in Mustique on Wednesday). But that was about 5 days ago, no updates, no news of KM, no news of PW - Missing in Action ?!
May 21st, 2008 18:02
Hi Will,
yes it is good to have friends in the industry…so good to hear that you were able to visit Liz coz i know you were missing her a lot…see you had nice visit..hope there is nothing serious about the hospital visit…
i dont know what CH is playing so i will keep mum for a while see where it all progress… i do believe William is in Kenya and it was reported that him and Kate are going to Mustique this week before he leaves for the RN….
take care Will……welcome back…
May 21st, 2008 18:39
Hi Will, it was reported that he went to the wedding in Africa. The Daily Mail, The Sun, AP, etc. So it may be true. But they may now be on vacation and I hope they have a good time. Did you see the pictures on William & Harry Unlimited Will? They are wonderful pictures and everybody seem to be happy.
May 21st, 2008 23:53
Hi Guys,
Morning, still on Eastern time so can’t sleep.
Think news and comments so far complicate the issues so much more.
The Kenyan Wedding seems a coverup;
Clandestine Military Servce:
Hello deal but if William knew why allow
Kate to go alone without warnings;
IOW Stag party which I believe may
still have serious ramifications;
The prospect of an early William/Kate engagement is very premature and may even be years away.
I think certain people (read person) still have demons to conquer,and prejudices to overcome and until these are cleared their way forward is still troublesome .
People ( again read Person) need to grow up, take reponsibilities in the personal lives of themselves and those very close to them but above all take on board the adage that being born to privilege demands responsibility and a realization that consideration of others is a necessity for a happy fruitful life.
There must be someone who can hammer this home into a reluctant mind but until then the problems continue and continue to mount
May 22nd, 2008 00:01
Hi Rman,
Is William still in Kenya ?
Is Kate in UK ?
Predict uncomfortable news later this week or early next
May 22nd, 2008 07:51
glad to read your posts again will,hope you are doing ok
May 22nd, 2008 08:37
Will, there is no updated news of PW/KM whereabouts. The only thing that has appeared in the press are the controversial Hello ! articles that mention that both Princes are mad of the picture spread of their girlfriends, emphasizing more on PH.
Supposedly their private/public outings/events are according to the latest whereabout articles with no actual updates:
They should be in Mustique since yesterday
PW will start at the Royal Navy June 2nd (1 week and a half)
PW Garter Knight Ceremony at Windsor June 16th (3 weeks)
May 22nd, 2008 08:40
Hi Will - why do you predict uncomfortable news later this week or early next?
May 22nd, 2008 08:43
ali our Will always does interesting predictions - its a 50/50
May 22nd, 2008 08:43
Hi Will - just read your earlier post.
Interesting - who are you talking about?
May 22nd, 2008 09:43
Will, I don’t there’s any trouble in the works for these guys. We see that everyone is happy and that is that. But I like to hear your predictions.
May 22nd, 2008 10:37
Hi all you Guys,
It is so good to be back and chatting (or whatever) to you all and yet again so many thanks for the wonderful wishes I’ve received both on here and privately.
I am lost.
Something tells me that something is going on but for the past four/five weeks things have been different but I’m not able to quantify it.
I have watched Kate and William ‘grow’ up in a relationship but their attitude to one another over the past month or so and their attitudes to others has changed.
The philosopher in me thinks one thing but when I think as a lawyer there are conflicts.
In certain ways it has happened before and then a word, a sighting or a happening clears up the thoughts and I think I then understand what has been happening.
So I’ll wait, watch and listen and hope things fall into place,it could be the ‘big’one ,the one we all hope for but it could just as easilly be something else.
Over the years, it hasn’t been apparent that William has given Kate many gifts which is perhaps unusual in such a long loving relationship. Two things we are sure that he gave her are a gold (I should hope) chain bracelet and a friendship ring , both of which she wore religiously even during their reported partings year after year.
Recently both are missing from her wrist and finger and frequently Kate has almost signalled their absence by the way she has held or placed her hands in clear view.
Recently both have regularly been missing.
I would love to know the significance of these two missing pieces.
However, Kate looks so happy even when William isnt about, so what has happened ? What is happening?
May 22nd, 2008 11:01
Maybe the realization that this is indeed is her life; in looking out. It’s like she’s really seeing clearly, maybe for the first time that, her life will be without PW, at all these functions. She’ll be left at home, while he does his royal duties. She’ll be on her own doing hers. The window picture reminds me of the Taj pic with Diana. A monument of love,but vacent and dead.
May 22nd, 2008 11:17
Well come back, Will. It is good to hear from you again. Whatever the news is that is coming I’m prepared for it. Though William has been absent for a while now. What if he’s already with the Navy instead of Kenya it’ll be a better explaination for his absence at Peter’s wedding. Just a thought.
May 22nd, 2008 11:32
Hi ali,
Sorry, I wasn’t ignoring you.
All I can say is ‘work it out’?
Answers on a post card please to CH,London W1
May 22nd, 2008 11:37
Hi Me,
Give me some credit please !
By my calculations it’s been about 70 - 30 over the past year or so, which isn’t bad considering the fact that we don’t really know anything at all ?
Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest them ?
(References please)
May 22nd, 2008 11:41
Yes Will I have noticed in the only two events of KM lately, since she has mantained to be out of the limelight - low profile - is during the outing with her ex and old friend Willhem (no ring, no bracelet) and at P&A wedding as well.
PW “missing in action” has me baffled ?! I also want to wait, watch and listen.
Would it finally be that a diamond rock will be placed in the proper finger ? This is not wild guessing, this is dreaming !
LOL
May 22nd, 2008 11:43
Okay okay, I’ll give you credit, I bow and send you many flowers and kisses and hip hip hurray (because your back) !!!
May 22nd, 2008 11:46
Well all I can say is that she may have taken off the ring for a official ring to go on that finger. Charles didn’t take his wedding ring that Diana gave him until he announced his engagement to Camilla. The Duke of York still have his wedding ring on as well. The fact that Kate was there sitting in the back row with royal family speak folumes. I hope William & Kate is having fun if they are on vacation.
May 22nd, 2008 11:48
Will - Answers on a post card please to CH, London W1. What does that mean?
I read in an earlier post of yours, that you live in Chelsea. Do you live near Kate?
May 22nd, 2008 11:49
Me, I think that’s what’s going on. Now that they have Peter’s wedding out of the way, it makes room for another engagement to be announced. Will, you are right, lets just sit watch and listen. The news will be exciting.
May 22nd, 2008 11:53
The thing Rman is like Will said (in all the past pics we’ve been able to have of her, all papz pics, because private pices never, unlike Chelsy) she always wore those two pieces, more the ring, but in the middle finger, thats not where a diamond rock proposal ring belongs.
Although comparing (I hate comparing) the jewelry Chelsy wore at P&A wedding is the same jewelry she wore at PH latest badge ceremony - it cheapened her entire look. On the other hand KM wore no jewelry at all, I didn’t even see earings. :gasp: although her hair covered her ears (in all the pics, outside paps and Hello ! pics). So it might just not mean anything at all :shrug:
Too much reading, and everything might just be fine ?!
May 22nd, 2008 11:53
Hi ali,
Yes, close by and my office is also ‘near the action.
I have several young ladies who subsidize the pittance I pay them by working evening and weekends in pubs, clubs and even Selfridges.
May 22nd, 2008 11:54
Guys,
Someone enlighten ali please.
May 22nd, 2008 11:56
Hi Will,
has any of your staff seen Beatrice at Selfridge working??? i read that Bea works as a personal shopper there…
May 22nd, 2008 11:58
Will lives in Chelsea, he also meets with some old Duke who loves wine and he gives interesting predictions, we cat fight here, but at the same time (I, Me) love each other with all included, we are BRW internet friends, and it starting to sound like an on/off PW/KM relationship HA HA HA
May 22nd, 2008 12:02
Me, I have always thought that things are fine. Even though that’s not where a wedding ring belongs, I’m just saying that we might see a ring soon. Later this year or early next year. Being patient is key.
May 22nd, 2008 12:06
Hi Me,
Liz will kill me !
I think I will set benign onto you !?
xxxx to all
May 22nd, 2008 12:13
Will - I am VERY confused?
Enlighten me about what?
May 22nd, 2008 12:30
Hi ali,
Back to the original post starting ‘ still on eastern time’
William has a well known prejudice and phobia about the press which I feel has sometimes led to unfair press criticism of himself and even Kate at times. Had he been more open and accommodating with them lots of problems may have been avoided.
In addition William has not always protected Kate when she is heavily attacked in the press. If he had acknowledged her officially as part of his life lots of this would have ben avoided and the photographers would not be so aggressive in trying to get them photographed together.
William lives in Clarence House (CH) which is SW1 not W1 as I mistakenly said so my post was virtually asking William to honour his responsibilities
OK
May 22nd, 2008 12:33
I am sure William and Kate will have a nice time spending time in this luxurious hotel or suite.
Have fun at the cozy place of the romanitc getaway.
May 22nd, 2008 12:40
Will - ok!
It all makes sense.
No one has mentioned Harry and a driver driving around 100 mph on the M4. Extremely reckless.
May 22nd, 2008 12:50
Hi ali,
You ask the question.
Now how about another conundrum !
Who was the driver of the R8 Audi sports ?
Who is the owner of an R8 Audi Sports ?
Answers on yet another postcard to CH SW1
I don’t know the answer but answers could be interesting in view of various other fables we have been subjected to over the past few weeks.
As a matter of interest how many guys think William MAY be on duty somewhere in the world ?
May 22nd, 2008 12:56
Will - I thought William was not allowed to be on duty anywhere in the world because he is second in line. (?)
Is the owner of the R8 Audi sports car - William?
I think I read somewhere he owns an Audi. Also, why do the British Royalty drive German cars?
May 22nd, 2008 13:07
I don’t think William is on duty abroad. Last year he vanished for quite some time during the summer as well and it was later reported that he was at Jecca’s in Kenya. He truly seems to have found a place there where he enjoys 100% privacy since no picture of him there ever turned up.
I’m sure if he was sent on duty abroad he’d be sent for at least 4 weeks to qualify for a campaign medal like the one Harry has. But since he’ll be expected back for his stint with the Navy on June 1st, he wouldn’t be able to complete 4 weeks now.
IMO, he’s on his annual Kenya holiday only a little earlier this year. Maybe he’s in Mustique with Kate but I suspect that we would have gotten a picture of her at the airport if that was the case. So far it looks like she hasn’t left England after the wedding.
May 22nd, 2008 13:22
Hi Trixie,
You may well be correct . William spends a lot of time with Jecca’s family and /or Jecca even in the UK.
A few days before Christmas my wife ,Liz and I came out of a theatre in The Haymarket immediately behind William and Jessica walking towards St James’s steps. We were very quickly overtaken by another couple (male and female) who stayed behind William and Jessica across the road to a Land Rover type car.
I don’t think that was an isolated outing as I have heard simlar stories and must admit that the thought went through my head that perhaps Kate was acting as a ’stalking horse’ for her long time friend and his lady.
Who knows ?
William also stayed with Jesica in Kenya both before and after his holiday with Kate in the Seychelles last August.
May 22nd, 2008 13:25
Hi again,
Quick thought !?
Future King prefers live in Africa than his ‘own’ country ?
It has also been reported that Harry would like to spend more time in Africa ?
Do you think the ‘Craig Wedding’ was fact or fiction ?
May 22nd, 2008 13:35
I won’t go into secret relationship conspiracy theories.
The Craigs own a holiday resort with cottages for rent. I’m sure that’s where William stays not in Jecca’s bed. But it sounds so much better to say that he spends his holidays with his ex-g/f than that he rented a cottage at her parent’s holiday retreat. I see no reason why Kate would play the “facade” girlfriend for William and Jecca especially not when when it’s an “open secret” that William and Jecca are close. That doesn’t make sense not when Kate even attends offical functions which will lead everyone to assume she’s accepted as future bride. If that cover ever blew up (and any such thing would sooner or later) William’s reputation would forever be ruined. Furthermore Jecca has a steady b/f, too, so her rep would suffer as well. He might enjoy playing games with the media but I doubt he’d go THAT far.
May 22nd, 2008 14:23
Well said TRIXIE. Prince William I think must have an intense dislike and distrust of the media and the Paps, especially after all they put his mother and father through. He is a very private person and we have no way of knowing what gifts he has given Kate over the years. I doubt that’s going to be public knowledge and why should it be?
I believe that they are together in Mustique now and when Wills completes service in the Royal Navy, you just might hear a formal engagement announcement by Christmas, with maybe a Spring or Summer wedding. If not, then that’s between Kate and William. If she’s smart and he doesn’t want to marry at this point, then perhaps she should move on with her life - but that’s her decision to make.
All this crazy speculation doesn’t add up to very much - it’s just rumors flying all over the place.
May 22nd, 2008 14:52
Hi Guys,
There is no way that William as an honoured Royal guest would stay anywhere other than the Craig home, but I would not suggest that Jessica’s honour be smirched by suggesting he shared her bed.
Back in 2003 it was reported that Kate did act as a stalking horse during William’s initial infatuation with Jessica. Kate was attending a 21st birthday party in South Africa and was officially escorted by Thomas v S.
Jessica and Henry R. ceased being an item in June/July 2007 when she finished at London University. She has however been out with him several times since but their status is not known.
Henry did in fact a act as escort to Kate following the break up in March 2007.
At several crisis in William’s life he has discussed and sought comfort from Jessica and it did slip out that he discussed his and Kate’s relationship with her a few days before William dined with Camilla in December 2007. Kate did face William with it and was very angry.
It is also known that William stayed at the Craig house both before and after his holiday with Kate in the Seychelle’s last August, leaving Kate to travel to and from the Seychelles alone via Paris.
There is no way that Kate represented William at Peter’s wedding. Royal protocol demands that an HRH may only be represented by another Royal or an appointed Equerry or Lady in Waiting. Fact.
William’s opinion of the media is very low and he feels that his subtefuge can outwit them at any time.
William may also subscribe to his father’s precept that he (Charles) should not be the first Prince of Wales to forgo a mistress. A claim he made in rage to Diana.. William is well endowed with Royal Genene that go back 1000+
years so who knows what his inner thoughts are.
So who is playing games ?
May 22nd, 2008 15:00
ok will,which one gets to be the wife in your opinion?
May 22nd, 2008 15:07
Hi Jenny,
If I knew the answer to that I would be at Ladbrooks’ with the deeds of my house.
I do however have an interesting question.
Think of your own personal life.
Would you prefer to spend time with a one time girl friend in an exotic setting or time with your lover, prior to a lengthy period of Military service which may take you away from your lover for three months or more .
Anyone have a view on this ?
May 22nd, 2008 15:11
good point,it does seem he perfers jecca more.Feel sorry for her “boyfriend” everytime wills shows up he must think is she gonna dump me this week.
May 22nd, 2008 15:16
Hi Everybody…
When this discussion about Wills loathing the media arises, there’s always one thing that seems out of sorts to me in regards to how it relates to the state of Kate an Will’s relationship. If Will is truly secure and positive about his future relationship with Kate, then why wouldn’t he be eager to make it official as soon as possible so that he can shield her from the media with official, royal protection? His media dislike is widely documented and it is said that it is his largest concern when it comes to his girlfriend, which is completely understandable, but then why not take the one step (i.e. engagement) that would completely ensure Kate’s security to the best of his ability?
I’m not saying that this shows that Wills doesn’t love Kate and that she’s bound to get the boot etc…so please don’t put me in the “kate-bashing” camp because that’s not my point in the least. I just think it’s potentially a sign that William still isn’t 100% positive about his future with Kate. And he’s still young, so it’s perfectly fine if he’s not 100% positive…and perhaps he will decide that Kate is “the one” at some point, but I don’t think his actions, thus far, show us that there is an imminent engagement coming soon….
Also, I must agree with Trixie that the “secret girlfriend conspiracy” is a bit far-fetched because I can’t think of a reason for why Kate would partake in a scheme like that…but, I will say that the theories, no matter how far-fetched, are always amusing…and, Will, you do seem to be the master when it comes to exciting/interesting theories! Bravo!
May 22nd, 2008 15:19
He might stay at the family home now, since he’s a wedding guest, I doubt he does so every summer.
He’s not married hence he can’t have a mistress. If he was so infatuated with Jecca he could have her as a g/f. I don’t see what Kate would get out of such a deal either. If he was trying to
hide a relationship with Jecca, he would publicly go through a string of short flings instead and not build up a public stable relationship over 4 years with Kate.
In 2003 CH officially denied that there ever was anything between William and Jecca. I rather believe them than you or some gossip rags.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-228850/Girlfriend-was.html
I remember that back then there was a lot of confusion whether William had a g/f and who that g/f was. Due to the press ban there were no pics and only “sightings” of him and contradicting gossip articles linking him to various women. Only earlier this year that other young woman was outed as short “fling” of William’s (maybe she was a cover for his big love Jecca, too, before he found Kate to do that job
) Her name never came up before which leads me to believe that the press didn’t really have a clue what was going on during his uni years.
If you refer to the article linked below it said that he confided about the Diana inquest to Jecca not about his relationship with Kate. Since the Craigs are family friends for a long time, I imagine Jecca might have some more insight into the whole thing than Kate would who doesn’t even know Diana (if there’s any truth to this at all). How any paper would know about such private conversation is beyond me. And that was the only article that made this claim and the same article said Kate was looking for a home which was obviously untrue.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-506194/The-triumph-Kate-Middleton-She-tightens-grip-Prince-William-searches-home.html
May 22nd, 2008 15:20
Hi Trixi,
Sorry meant to answer your earlier query about the finances of William and HArry.
They are extemely wealthy and apart from earlier gifts from The Queen Mother, Diana’s personal fortune of some fourteen million ponds was shared equally between William and Harry.
They have full use of that money upon reaching the age of 25 years and William took control of his finances on his birthday last June. Harry will obviously get control of his finances in two years time.
Sorry for delay in responding and I’m surprised that someone hadn’t alrerady responded as the figures were well publicised.
May 22nd, 2008 15:21
Hello ! journalist also used the ‘representative’ word not once, but various times in the issue.
May 22nd, 2008 15:28
there was a girl named carly for about ten months at university,that was rumored to be dating william ,before kate.but I get it ch acts like km is the only girl william ever dated ,and that just makes him look weird
May 22nd, 2008 15:30
Jenny, CH never said that Kate was the only one William dated. They only denied the Jecca big love “fake engagement” story. They didn’t comment on any of hte other flings he supposedly had at university (maybe because those were true?).
May 22nd, 2008 15:33
I have a question about the CH statement regarding Jecca in 2003. Why would they comment on that particular instance when there are tons and tons of personal rumors etc. that CH refuses to comment on because they “don’t comment on his personal life.” Does anybody know why there was an exception made in the Jecca case?
May 22nd, 2008 15:35
good question,why is jecca gifted with a resonse from ch?
May 22nd, 2008 15:36
Hi Trixi,
You obviosly have a dedicated data base and I envy you. Unfortunately I have to rely on memory.
Do you not think it strange that St James’ issued that statement when so many other ladies were reportedly close to William. I seem to recall smoke and fire and also as a sop to William who would not like it known that he had been rejected at such a young age. Its called protection
He has maintained his close friendship with Jessica but at no time have I suggested it was romantic. I have wondered why he prefers time with her rather than Kate and at any and every opportunity runs back to her sometimes for weeks on end. Think how you would feel if it were your husband or partner !
Platonic friendships of this type are common but usually have a disasterous effect upon a loving relationship . Who wants to think that a lover or husband would rather confide in another women.
Please be realistic, and just think of your own reaction to a similar situation.
May 22nd, 2008 15:40
Hi Curious 22,
I repeat that a young Prince in William’s position would not like it known or thought that he had been rejected.
No further comment
May 22nd, 2008 15:43
Hi Me,
Journalist ?
No further commet
May 22nd, 2008 15:47
I can understand that because nobody likes rejection, but don’t you think that there have been loads of other times that a young prince wouldn’t want to be known for doing certain things and/or having them done to him? It just seems like a somewhat random exception to me….
May 22nd, 2008 15:53
Guys,
Sorry to go off post.
Have just read about sudden death of Martin Kelly.
I just want to say he was a good bloke
May 22nd, 2008 15:53
Richard Kay (Article 2005)
Richard Kay
Daily Mail
AMID all the kerfuffle over Prince William’s crowded private life, one
central figure has been forgotten. He is financier Hugh Crossley — son
of a Norfolk landowner — who has been dating William’s close friend
Jecca Craig (above) for almost a year.
Friends insist William’s girlfriend Kate Middleton has nothing to fear
from Jecca’s fondness for the Prince, which has seen her holidaying with him in Kenya. For things are so strong between art student Jecca, 23, and 34-year-old Crossley, who met in Africa when Hugh was
recovering from a climbing accident on Mount Kenya, there is talk the
relationship could become permanent.`Although it started off as a bit
of fun, it is now much more serious,’ a friend of the couple tells me.
Should the confusion over Jecca continue, might Hugh receive a royal
apology? When reports first linked the beguiling Miss Craig
erroneously to William the Prince phoned her then boyfriend, fellow
Old Etonian Henry Ropner, to apologise.
TODAY (2008)
Jecca has been in a relationship with the Honourable Hugh Crossley, age 36, for the last 3 years, since 2005, and they share a residence in London together.
he is really athletic and adventurous guy who goes skydiving and mountain climbing. That’s how Hugh met Jecca, mountain climbing in Africa. Hugh is also a member of the Tusk Trust committee along with Jecca and Wills’ friends Tom Van Straubenzee and Tom Aubrey Fletcher.
Google search.
Will, Hello mag Journalist and 4 photographers was the deal to enter ceremony and reception, thats what the journalist wrote, KM was representing PW.
May 22nd, 2008 16:08
Hi Me,
I wonder how Hugh feels when William takes so much of his girl friend’s time.
Perhaps he can sympathise with Kate !?
She has been seen out with with Henry Ropner this year.
Perhaps they have to discus the affairs of the Trust ??
I’ve had lots to do with similar Trusts and will make no further coments.
Me,
A commoner may not represent an HRH at any function unless appointed as an Equerry or lady in waiting, formally called lady of the bed chamber.
A Prince of Royal blood may only be represented by a personnage of similar status or an appointed Equerry or a Private Secretary as they are sometimes known.
May 22nd, 2008 16:12
Hi all,
guess everyone can only wait and see what develops….
there seem to be only three possibilities:
(repeating others’ views here):
1. k and w either break up for good
2. k and w become formally engaged
3. k and w limp along as they’ve been doing, until k finally gives up
glad to see Will is fine and enjoyed the trip east with Liz!
May 22nd, 2008 16:12
Hi again Curious 2.
Remember this was in 2003 and William had a long way to go.
His street cred would be destroyed if it were accepted that he’s been rejected by a common girl.
To make a pun it is indeed curious !
May 22nd, 2008 16:18
It seems to me the only reason CH commented on Jecca, was because as is quoted, Prince William was highly embarassed with Jecca’s father.
I don’t know if anything between Jecca and William going on now is true or not. I don’t know if William and Kate are still together. I don’t know if she was at the wedding “Representing” him or not. I know she was there, and that she seemed to have a special place to sit with the Royal Family. So, I must admit I don’t know much for sure………BUT NIETHER DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM!!!
May 22nd, 2008 16:20
Hi anastasia,
I did enjoy trip and I do miss Liz lots, but it’s a wonderful opportunity for her and I support her with all my heart.
Thats why I’m pontificating and getting argumentative on here. !?
Forgive me everyone
Oh yes (3) may be a good bet
May 22nd, 2008 16:24
LOL, good one MGR.
Who knows, perhaps PW during his Kenya stay was alone previous/after wedding ?! Clearly if he was there, he was there for Bataing. Maybe Jecca was with Hugh, and he was the third wheel, so to say, like KM was with PH/CD ?! I hope we will ever get to know, but the strange silence surrounding PW/KM as of late, with Mustique rumors and all, has me scratching my head.
May 22nd, 2008 16:27
Hi MGR,
Possibly the most sensible comment made on here for many a long time.
Not one of us knows for sure what is happening ,we only speculate, perpetuate and offer possible reasons for unexplainable events.
Well done MGR
May 22nd, 2008 16:32
Guys,
Was there a wedding last saturady in Kenya ?
No one has any knowledge of it and there are several so called experienced investigative journalist touting for information.
Not a single word or comment.
There was a reported wedding in the Craig family weeks ago so who knows?
May 22nd, 2008 16:38
previous quote by Will:—————————-]
Henry(Ropner) did in fact a act as escort to Kate following the break up in March 2007.
At several crisis in William’s life he has discussed and sought comfort from Jessica and it did slip out that he discussed his and Kate’s relationship with her a few days before William dined with Camilla in December 2007. Kate did face William with it and was very angry.
It is also known that William stayed at the Craig house both before and after his holiday with Kate in the Seychelle’s last August, leaving Kate to travel to and from the Seychelles alone via Paris.
There is no way that Kate represented William at Peter’s wedding. Royal protocol demands that an HRH may only be represented by another Royal or an appointed Equerry or Lady in Waiting. Fact.
_end quote:—————————————–]
Will….I’m so glad you are feeling better, your posts are amazing. I love to read your well thought out reasoning of the situation of Kate and William.
You actually saw William and Jecca(Jessica?) out walking, it would be nice to here more. What was their mood like? Just wondering?
quote:–Will ——————–]
May 22nd, 2008 13:22
You may well be correct . William spends a lot of time with Jecca’s family and /or Jecca even in the UK.
A few days before Christmas my wife ,Liz and I came out of a theatre in The Haymarket immediately behind William and Jessica walking towards St James’s steps. We were very quickly overtaken by another couple (male and female) who stayed behind William and Jessica across the road to a Land Rover type car.
I don’t think that was an isolated outing as I have heard simlar stories and must admit that the thought went through my head that perhaps Kate was acting as a ’stalking horse’ for her long time friend and his lady.
end quote:—————————————]
May 22nd, 2008 16:40
Hi Guys,
Me,
Kate look exceedingly happy with smiles as big if not bigger than those during her taxi ride with her ex., and I don’t think anyone one can be such an actress.
Perhaps the load is off and she knows where and what she is doing for the first time for many years but if it is a break it has to be final and forever.
Do you remember how people said William only went back to her in July to protect his reputation
I wonder ??
May 22nd, 2008 16:41
previous quote by Will:—————————-]
Henry(Ropner) did in fact a act as escort to Kate following the break up in March 2007.
At several crisis in William’s life he has discussed and sought comfort from Jessica and it did slip out that he discussed his and Kate’s relationship with her a few days before William dined with Camilla in December 2007. Kate did face William with it and was very angry.
It is also known that William stayed at the Craig house both before and after his holiday with Kate in the Seychelles last August, leaving Kate to travel to and from the Seychelles alone via Paris.
There is no way that Kate represented William at Peter’s wedding. Royal protocol demands that an HRH may only be represented by another Royal or an appointed Equerry or Lady in Waiting. Fact.
_end quote:—————————————–]
Will….I’m so glad you are feeling better, your posts are amazing. I love to read your well thought out reasoning of the situation of Kate and William.
You actually saw William and Jecca(Jessica?) out walking, it would be nice to here more. What was their mood like? Just wondering?
quote:–Will ——————–]
May 22nd, 2008 13:22
You may well be correct . William spends a lot of time with Jecca’s family and /or Jecca even in the UK.
A few days before Christmas my wife ,Liz and I came out of a theatre in The Haymarket immediately behind William and Jessica walking towards St James steps. We were very quickly overtaken by another couple (male and female) who stayed behind William and Jessica across the road to a Land Rover type car.
I don’t think that was an isolated outing as I have heard simlar stories and must admit that the thought went through my head that perhaps Kate was acting as a stalking horse for her long time friend and his lady.
end quote:—————————————}
May 22nd, 2008 16:43
Guys,
So then we can say what reputation ?
Never mind it will all be forgotten in 30 years time when he is crowned possibly as a bachelor King.
Who would go near ?
May 22nd, 2008 16:51
That was a farewell party and other St. Andrew people where at Mahiki as well. He is in Congo actually.
Acting or not, I understand Willhem consulted with PC lawyers for a possible PCC complaint for those pics published in the DM/Sun - PW said he was relaxed about it.
Lets wait and see what develops. People did so much studying about KM’s only 2 pics previous the Hello Mag, that she looked sad, and she looked happy. Acting or not.
May 22nd, 2008 16:52
Do you think that Peter and Autumn went to Mustique for their honeymoon, could be a possibility. A present for PW to make up for bad blood at stag. another possibility.
May 22nd, 2008 17:02
Jacqueline - why was there bad blood at the stag party?
May 22nd, 2008 17:07
Ali, Will in another thread thought that maybe the reason for PW not attending the wedding might be something that happened at the stag.
May 22nd, 2008 17:31
kate looked too at ease for her and william not to be together. She was chatting with Zara, harry, chelsy like she is already part of the family. Everything seems to be fine and i agree with Jade. I think an engagement announcement and wedding is imminent.
May 22nd, 2008 17:47
Hasn’t the press predicted an Engagement for these two since 2003 0r 2004?
Does Pr. William want to get married now? Maybe Kate will just end up being good friends like Jecca. Why does he have to marry anyone in his 20’s?
May 22nd, 2008 18:01
All those questions we will now the answers in the short, mid or long term future. History in action.
The press has always speculated with this couple and now with PH/CD ! Everytime they go on a holiday, they start making the predictions and bets. HA
May 22nd, 2008 18:01
He doesn’t have to marry anyone in his 20’s, but hopefully he would be honest with KM about his intentions instead of having her at his beck and call and putting her life on hold for him if he has no intentions of offering her something permanent in the future. Of course none of us really know what their personal life is really like. I would personally not want to be led on for years without knowing where a relationship was headed.
May 22nd, 2008 18:13
The press has written all scenerios for Kate and William(so have we posters)HA! Maybe they came to an agreement when the got back together after the big breakup last year.
He’s not leading her on, if she agreed just to date and see where it goes? It is her decision to date him for this long without a committment.
Or maybe he gave her a committment, quietly, but I’m not sure a Prince in his early 20’s would do that, even if they’ve dated for years and years. Still I agree, no one knows except those two.
May 22nd, 2008 18:28
Exactly no one knows but I sure wish we did.
May 22nd, 2008 18:34
I think they are just good friends at this time.
I really don’t think they will marry. William was probably told (for the sake of his reputation) to stay friendly with her after their break up last April 2007.
May 22nd, 2008 18:39
It’s not that long really. Most of my friends are dating, have been for years. No one is really in a hurry for a ring. He has said from the beginning, he’s not getting hitched ’till he’s 28 or 30. I’m just 19 and in no hurry. I’ve got a three year minimum ’till I’ll start looking. For now, casual friendships, without benifits!thanks.
May 22nd, 2008 18:49
Have your friends put their careers on hold for their b/fs though? In a real world relationship. sure there is no problem in dating for years where marriage may not happen, but when you put your life on hold and it doesn’t happen and you are 30 and you have not started to make a life for yourself there is a problem. I just think their situation is far more complex that normal relationships. I personally don’t think they are just friends. JMO
May 22nd, 2008 19:00
Hi Maddie, no I don’t think they are just friends either. But my eldest brother’s g/f had a great job to work abroad, she turned it down ’cause she’s hoping for a ring. They are in late twenties. Maybe it’s an age thing, don’t know. But all her friends are getting engaged, and feeling the pressure.
May 22nd, 2008 19:09
I would hate to be in that predicament because if you don’t get the proposal then you have given up a wonderful job opportunity but who knows what the future holds for a job or a marriage. Nothing is guaranteed in life. I guess some people go with their hearts and others with their head.
May 22nd, 2008 19:09
Speculating, I think she will hold until 2009, after then; make it or break it (27 years old).
If its a break it (2009 limit) IMO, she will have an array of options to see through and decide what to do with her life, it won’t be the end of the world. Other people who haven’t been in an “extraordinary” “unusual” position and have had it worst (long relations waiting with heartbreak results) have managed to rise career wise and in love as well, if this is ever the speculating scenario - she will do just fine. She has already proven to be a strong woman with last years public short break up and as any human being, within you - you learn a lesson, mature, and go individually to a next level or cycle of life. She gave him the chance to lets come back together, that was her choice to accept him back if its working great, if at the end - marrying or not - its the later - as I think and IMO she will rise and do whatever good God and family and friends emotional support - she surely doesn’t look like the weak type to abandon herself. You see, even when they had there “amikable” break up, just remember who “guys” where there giving her the helping friendly hand to go out and lets have fun, don’t lock up yourself in house crying (actually she had the poker face, admirable) and who (various) (according to the press) gave her the routine calls to she if she was okay - these people other than her close nit family.
May 22nd, 2008 19:09
If they are boyfriend and girlfriend, then why wouldn’t he go to his cousins wedding with her?
If he did go to a wedding in Africa, why wouldn’t he invite his “girlfriend”?
May 22nd, 2008 19:25
I’ll just flow with that one with the press and CH - there was a date clash - PW was long ago (1 year) invited to Bataing as guest of honor - he/she “hit” the solution - separating one to attend one event, the other attending the other - spoke to his cousin and all was fine. If I keep on trying or speculating what happened there, as everyone is doing, will all go nuts. I just hope one day we may find out if he really was at a Bataing Wedding.
I also think Wills is sure and unsure at the same time, he loves Kate but he’s not sure if he wants it NOW. She sent him a signal with the convenient farewell party to her dear ex 10 years ago friend Willhem (he’s very handsome and very very intelligent guy, wow) and she also has an excellent relationship friendship - even if she met these guys through PW - but she has known how to grow and you can see it with various of them - specially TvS (I think he was also at the Polo match, I will find that picture published in a german article - who knows - this may probably have caused the wierd face of Wills) LOL The pic is of a guy at the PW/PH tent kissing KM in the cheek and she is holding a champaign glass, one of the table attendants is looking on, caption has no name ?!
May 22nd, 2008 19:27
Only death and taxes. Oh yeah and student loans. But Maddie, doesn’t it follow that both heart and head together when deciding about ones future? It took me forever to decide what to be after grad. during gap I’m living with uncle and gran in Denmark. But when shelly, my bros g/f turned down career for my dorkey brother, wow blew my mind.
May 22nd, 2008 19:30
I think you are right Me/ I doubt she will continue the relationship into her thirties with no commitment. I also think she is a very strong person as we all have seen in the past. She didn’t shut herself in and cry over PW. I think Kate is the type of woman who won’t wait around forever for him to decide. I hope she already knows where this relationship is going ( although, I think she already does)
May 22nd, 2008 19:33
Jacqueline, lol. I wish everyone used their hearts and heads regarding their future, but not everyone does
May 22nd, 2008 19:36
It definitely would not be hard for her to find someone else
May 22nd, 2008 19:37
jaqueline, LOL you really made me laugh, and yes those things happen in real life. I was hopping from one place to another (job, free lance, travel, work here, there, screwed up, fixed up) from 20 to 30 until I found what I wanted to do. Who knows, maybe in 10 years, I’ll feel like experimenting something else.
May 22nd, 2008 19:38
Thanks Maddie, I wish that too. I think if someone were upset, you’d be a soft place to land.
May 22nd, 2008 19:43
Thanks Me, 30 feels so far away. But who knows maybe by then I’ll be a Vet breeding horses and have a license plate GR8 2M8.
May 22nd, 2008 19:50
I just wish I were more mature in the love part of my life when I was in my 20s. I was confussed and ditched about 2 real nice guys in my life (in different occasions) for a worst one. Why did I end up going out for a “2nd” rated guy, when the “1st” rated one was better ?! I lost, the past is the past, and one must learn, those are the risks in life to take. Now I’m in a steady relation, but as you can see with my confession I have ’sometimes’ the curiosity in finding out what, where, who and how is my 2 exes that I ditched are doing. :shrug: PC (PoW) syndrom LOL it also happens in life, he and me, and many people in the world inside their minds after a certain age wonders how is x doing with his/her life (old pics, memories remind one of those things) ! Missing someone, ohhhhh !
May 22nd, 2008 21:03
Hey Me, especially those stupid love songs. My best friend, Haley, is just now able to listen to one that was,”their song”.OMG!! Please if I ever meet anyone that makes me do that,PLEASE, take the head phones away!! I haven’t had a boyfriend yet. I’ve been busy. And no I don’t need to tie a bone to my neck to make the dog play with me. I see the pain that b/f g/f stuff does so I’m steering clear. But there is a really cute guy in one of my classes.haha
May 22nd, 2008 21:04
Thanks Jacqueline. It is really refreshing to see a 19 year old with direction in their life. Don’t let anyone derail you from your pat(especially a guy) Focus on yourself first and everything else will fall into place for you. Good luck!
May 22nd, 2008 21:04
I meant path not pat oops
May 22nd, 2008 21:13
ME, That is true with me as well. I made some poor choices in my 20s but I have become wiser in my early 30s. I do wonder about a love lost and how they are doing and how my life would have been different if I had chosen a different path.
May 22nd, 2008 21:17
Hey Maddie, Me.. I should change my nae to my middle name,which is Monica. We’d be the British Royal Wedding alliteration trio. Wow, all the forums would follow suit.