Royal Courtiers advise No Job for Kate Middleton
Kate Middleton was the subject of much criticism after it was alleged that the Queen had “voiced concern” that Prince William should not announce an engagement to his girlfriend until she had secured herself a full-time job.
Mandrake learns that the claim could not, in fact, be further from the truth. According to a close friend of Kate, the 26-year-old St Andrews graduate has been advised by courtiers not to take any permanent job.
“She’s not working and there are no plans for her to work,” says her chum.
I understand that officials are keen to avoid a similar situation to the “Fake Sheikh scandal”, in which the Earl of Wessex’s wife, Sophie, was accused of exploiting her royal connections to win business for her PR firm.
Kate’s imminent engagement to William, who is on a two-month attachment to the Royal Navy, is widely expected and her only job is taking photographs for her parents’ mail-order company, which provides paraphernalia for children’s parties.
It has also been reported that Kate would work for Mario Testino, but the photographer told me at his Obsessed by You exhibition, at Phillips de Pury & Company, in Westminster: “It’s simply not true. She was never going to work with me.” (via The Telegraph)
July 6th, 2008 03:26
Hello,
I don’t believe all that published but those of you who criticise KM from what you read then please acknowlegde this story which supports KM’s position.
I don’t know if it is true or correct but it is as true and as correct as the converse comments that are written.
Balance it out and accept, I,you and everyone else doesn’t know the full story so no further ‘lazy’ stories.
Agreed ?
July 6th, 2008 05:11
Well this story supports my opinion on the situation,but I don’t think any “close pal”, “chum” or anybody else close to PW or KM spoke to the Telegraph. I think they just printed what some feel is the case…Kate is not working outside her home because someone has advised her not to. If the Queen,as reported by the DM wanted her to work, she would have a job. I am also glad they reprinted the quote from Mario Testino regarding that foolish story that she would be working for him. It was just silly. It was started by that fool Katie Nicholls and it grew legs. Not a shred of truth to it.
July 6th, 2008 05:12
too much criticism is bad. we dont know the true story behind.
July 6th, 2008 06:04
I don’t think this telegraph article helps Kate out at all. I doubt the fact the so called courtiers would not tell her not to work or at least do charity work. When you consider the fact those who are born into the RF do lots of charity work, or those who marry into the RF do charity work also.
who leaked this story didn’t think of that, and I still think this article makes her look lazy.
July 6th, 2008 09:36
This doesn’t help Kate at all. Anyone reading this will just think that she is lazy.
July 6th, 2008 09:54
Three english journalist, 2 vs 1…who to believe Mandrake, Richard Kay vs Katie Nicholl…I’d take it all with a grain of salt.
Nothing better than a past event story with pics
July 6th, 2008 09:56
Which btw, the 3 come short…always have been reported by the pap who’s there at site - no journalist name, then later after 2-3 hours pufff “updated” by the gossip editor of each tab ! Check it out for yourself…awareness.
July 6th, 2008 12:34
People need to realize that Kate is not dumb nor is William and members of the royal family. Is she just quit her job and was sitting and waiting for a ring, then that would have been a bad move on her part and she would no longer be with William. Richard Kay of the Daily Mail said from the beginning that the story of The Queen wanting her to get a job was complete rubbish and I have known this all along. They want her to work behind the scenes and her working for her family is the right thing to do. She’s not seen often so she maybe living at home because she’s not seen leaving or going to her flat. When she was working at Jigsaw and living at her flat, the press was there 24/7 and that was a bad problem. William don’t want that. So this does help Kate and lets people know that things are more serious and the Palace is behind this.
July 6th, 2008 12:35
If I’m one of those courtiers, I would do the same. Working with her family is the safest thing to do. I don’t think Catherine would use the “royal connections” to boost the sales of a party equipment company. It’s a different story with Sophie, a PR company could [and I say, need and must (ha ha ha *lol*)] to use that kind of connection.
July 6th, 2008 12:53
I actually do not believe that the “courtiers” advise Kate in either way. I very much believe that it’s her own decision (maybe with advise from William) not to work and she never seemed to be interested in a career anyways. At least she didn’t take away a job from someone who needs it.
I agree though that working with her parents is the best she can do right now. And I can just imagine what those who criticise her now would say if she was actively doing a lot of charity work. Her efforts would be condemned as PR stunts in a heart beat.
July 6th, 2008 13:27
I agree with Trixie. The only flaw is that if she was doing charity the tabs would have picked up on it.
Though speaking of charity. I heard a rumour from someone who apparently has had word from the ‘inner circle’ that Kate Middleton is due to host a charity function at the Dorcester Hotel, London. Don’t know when but the tabs haven’t had word of it yet so you are probably some of the first to hear about it.
Watch this space and see if it really happens. This is just a rumour at the moment but keep your eyes pealed.
July 6th, 2008 13:35
Trixie,
I don’t agree with your point about the charity work.
If, and only if PW is absolutely positive that he intends to marry KM then it would be in both of their interest to introduce KM to his Charity work as soon as possible.
She can’t be expected to take on the reponsibilities of a marriage, possible children Royal duties and all the other duties within the marriage in the first year.
The more experience she has now with meeting the public in an official capacity the easier it will be later but these onerous duties should only be imposed on her if the marriage is to go ahead.
It is of course possible that PW still doesn’t want to commit himself finally so in that case I would agree with you that her staus quo remains, the Girlfriend.
July 6th, 2008 14:17
Ked, I have a very strong feeling that will happen soon. I have a feeling that she will accompany him to events and start showing her interest. William seem to keep her out of things while he’s away. She can show up to certain things but nothing too big at the moment. Believe me when I tell you that he is in control over this and doing it in his way with the palace. The Palace learned it’s lesson from the Sophie situation will not go back to that again.
July 6th, 2008 15:55
Rman,
I still think that PW has relatives to convince that he and KM are the next but one King and Queen.
Actually as I put that on the page I hesitated and I felt strange.
I don’t think I have ever written ” King and Queen” and even writing it again made the hair on my neck stand up.
Anyone else experienced anything similar ?
July 6th, 2008 17:13
Hello,
Going back to which friends to choose, has anyone noticed that since the Garter Ceremony whenever KM has been out without PW not one of PW’s friends have been with her.
At the Concert, at Wimbledon, at theMayfair night club afterwards and at Kitts nightclub there seems to be a new set of persons around her.
Any idea why ?
Strange that M/s Nicholl came up with KM to help CD with her friends, when suddenly KM has a new circle of friends.
Is that because her confidence in herself has been renewed ?
July 6th, 2008 18:24
Tthe only thing I find signifigant about the company that Kate has been keeping of late is that it has been Prince Harry, not one of William’s assistants that has been escorting her to events such as the Garter ceremony and the wedding. I think that is statement as to her position within the family. JMO. I do not think she has a new circle of friends nor do I think there is anything to this dumb article about Kate and Chelsey. There is almost always an article about Kate/William or Harry/Chelsey on the weekends and this is just the latest.
The only thing I find to be a stand out regarding the concert is that I believe the husky guy pictured with Kate and Holly was a security guy. I doubt he was with Holly because he was not seated next to her and his demeanor was very detached,IMO. I think Kate is receiving some low key security at public events at this point.
July 6th, 2008 18:24
Supposedly and rumors say that during PW stay at the RAF - the articles that came out with the couple is on the Rocks and the supposed sources where male friends of PW saying that they hadn’t seen each other since Wills had entered the RAF.
But we may see through Polo and B/day pics who was there and not, nevertheless this is just gossip and rumor Ked.
July 6th, 2008 18:26
Rumors then said that PW/KM found out who where those supposed friends sources that had given the tabs the on the rocks, hadn’t seen each other since jan, etc.
Who knows, hard to believe the tabs right
July 6th, 2008 19:50
the guys with Holly and Kate at the Mandela concert were not security. those are Holly’s friends since i have seen pics of them with Holly from the Wibble after party and Boujis leaving together…
I wonder why Kate hasnt been seen with Guy, TVB or even Harry meade…oh wells, probably find out later….
July 6th, 2008 20:04
at the BBB and Polo TvS and Meade at both
July 6th, 2008 20:05
ohh and there is a photo of TvS at another Polo during June…kissing her at the cheak
July 6th, 2008 22:18
Lisa - I agree that we have seen KM in Harry’s company quite a bit at the last few events…certainly more so than in the past…
I’m surprised that the DM or some other tabloid hasn’t written a story about how Kate has now decided to “go for” Harry instead of William…or an article about a feud between Chelsy and Kate because Chelsy is jealous of all the pics that have recently been taken of KM and PH laughing together!
Even though we know that PH and KM are just enjoying each other’s company as friends, and potentially as future in-laws,I would think articles of that nature would be more popular than these recycled stories we keep seeing of late!
July 6th, 2008 22:58
Hello,
I am sorry that anyone thinks my comments were meant to be a source of rumour. That was not intended.
I had noticed the absence of William’s friends from KM’s escorts and thought it unusual.
I also notice that the Mayfair Club seems to have lost some of it’s original attraction since KM left in taxi with their events manager after the Mandela concert.
July 6th, 2008 23:32
But there hasn’t been an absence of Wills’ friends with Kate. Holly Branson is Wills’ friend, and she was with Kate at the Mandela concert and went clubbing with Kate afterwards. Kate was at Wimbledon with Emilia d’Erlanger and some other girls, and Emilia is definitely a friend of Wills’ and Harry both.
Not only that, but the Mandela concert, the clubbing, and the Wimbledon appearance all took place just last weekend! The weekend before that Kate spent 3 days with Wills celebrating his birthday. That’s when Wills and Kate took those romantic dancing photos, and the cute photos putting up the tent in the rain. Surely time isn’t flying by so quickly that people are forgetting the dates when things took place?
July 7th, 2008 00:51
i don’t believe either story, that the queen sent kate to get a job or that couriers are advising her not to get one. I think this is just publicity, the writer doesn’t anything to write about and keeps making up stories. Anyways, KM still seems lazy to me.
July 7th, 2008 02:12
Sonia, if you understood what happened to The Countess of Weesex when she was still working after her marriage then you wouldn’t say that. And if you would noticed that the press was constantly hounding Kate when she was leaving her home and going to work. The situation was getting completely out of hand and she was adviced to work privately with her family’s business, so no Sonia Kate is not lazy and she is working but only behind the scenes which is good for her. Stop listening to the false stories and face the facts.
July 7th, 2008 02:24
Style.com named Catherine Middleton a style icon last month. Here is the link.
http://www.style.com/beauty/icon/062008
July 7th, 2008 03:36
sonia,
I have never met such a lazy,slothful person as you, very untidy and obviously need a bath at least three times a day. Bye the ay your hair really needs attention.
Sorry about that. I don’t know you and have no right to say those things about you.
As you personnal know KM you are entitled to call her lazy because you know her so well.
Or do you ? I very much doubt it !
So please refrain from making judgements from the articles you have read or listerned to.
July 7th, 2008 03:44
Good find Rman, thanks for the link!
July 7th, 2008 11:53
I don’t know who just made a comment under my name but a person by the name of rman said “Kate is soooo beautiful!” I did not say that. So who whoever wrote that, don’t ever do that again.
** BRW - Hopefully they won’t be bothering us again… **
July 7th, 2008 13:21
Rman,
I’m sure BRW can stop that.
Mention it to Steven as that sort of thing can lead to serious misunderstandings.
July 7th, 2008 13:33
Yes I just don’t like anyone putting words into my mouth.
July 7th, 2008 17:04
More bull from Kate’s sychophant press making excuses for her laziness.
William is never going to marry this woman in my opinion. He’s 26, he has no incentive to marry in his 20’s. Kate has already made herself too available.
The relationship will end this year, I’ll bet for good.
July 7th, 2008 17:46
merrick,
Still the typical jealous comments without any substance but it is not the first time you have used these obnoxious observations.
Now you’ve mentioned the word ‘bull’ and ’sychophant press’ perhaps you are now prepared to put your evidence where your very large mouth is.
Because large it is and what comes out has very little substance only the very obviuous dissatisfactaction in a menial and uneventful life.
Because you are unable to find fulfilment except in making statements that are very obviously based on jealousy, not of KM but of a lifestyle ,which you so crave but because of your own shortcomings, are unable to achieve.
Please correct me if I am wrong with a reasoned argument not unintelligible rants.
July 7th, 2008 17:54
I tend to agree with you, Merrick, Kate does not seem the type that William would want to marry. No offense to William, but she seems kind of boring to me, never mind where her money comes from.
Plus, I would find it hard on William if Kate does become a model, considering how he feels about the press-I’d rather work at KFC than hurt his feelings like that. It seems to be a lack of considering his feelings on her part, men are not statues and have feelings too.
July 7th, 2008 18:13
Hello,
I see that merrick has a sycophant or toady in Sarah Smitly which seems an obvious no de plume.
Same applies
July 7th, 2008 18:32
Not all the press are synchophants of Kate’s, she is referred to other than uh….fiancee by some press!
quote:
“Of more local concern however are the shenanigans going on to make sure Kate Middleton is elevated from bed friend of William’s to girlfriend. ”
“This is the first time the royals have got themselves so publicly and officially involved in sleeping arrangements of an heir to throne.”
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23984777-5000117,00.html
Ouch!
July 7th, 2008 18:32
Ked I find Merrick very fuuny and a player hater. Sarah Smitly have no idea what she’s talking about. Those comments are very funny. Anyone who hates to see people happy, belongs on another planet. but that’s their opinions and we have to respect that.
July 7th, 2008 18:35
Merrick the press makes up a lot of things and you seem to be enjoying it.
July 7th, 2008 18:40
True Roman, the press does make up things, I know that.
I enjoy reading your posts. I actually think you have stated valid, clear reasons why he may marry Kate one day.
….But you know as usual I disagree but I still respect your intelligent opinions on the matter.
July 7th, 2008 19:02
Eventually everyone is going to have to realize that is going to be the future Queen of England whether they like it or not. I agree with you Ked. I feel some people are of envious of her lifestyle with William. I can’t think of any other reason but jealousy for some posters anomosity toward Kate (someone they don’t know) JMO Some comments do appear to be the same person indeed.
July 7th, 2008 19:08
Thanks Merrick, I respect you comments as well.
July 7th, 2008 19:09
People can say what they want about Kate, but you won’t see pictures of her acting like CD http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1033159/So-Chelsy-miss-Harry.html
July 7th, 2008 20:46
Wow sounds like everyone is an expert on the Windsors, how do you know they don’t see this?
Judging from their expressions in the pictures, and how tired their eyes look, most of the pictures are printed WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION, and then everyone else tells them what to do instead of just letting them make their own decisions. It is a very hard thing to do.
How do you know if ANY of the stuff that is printed is true AT ALL?
DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE if it is or isn’t?
July 7th, 2008 21:04
Whatever it is pap’s or a friend ! She should be more carefull with those kinds of pics…the cig one is disgusting, but that’s JMO.
Nevertheless, Chelsy has always been carefree with facebook, myspace or whatever personal pics, there are tons of them out there in the web forums. So….
July 7th, 2008 21:39
So true Me. Even though Chelsy is being herself and showing how down to earth she is, she truly need to be more careful. I’m sure Harry will calm her down when he’s finished. The bad part is if her and Harry take their relationship further, the press will bring these pictures back up and that’s not good.
July 7th, 2008 22:25
I feel very badly for Chelsy. Unfortunately, there have been pictures leaked out of her”partying” and with lots of different friends - both male and female - all the time - never this bad though. In my opinion, she should have been more discreet; call it phony if you like, but now she has compromised herself and perhaps her long-term future with Harry. Sadly, I tend to think that in the long run, these pics will prove to be a big deal.
July 8th, 2008 00:53
I have been reading all the comments that Ked and Rman are writing. Why would we be jeaulous of KM? Are we jeaulous of not marrying a man who is into one of the most dysfunctional family in england? are we jeaulous of the burden that it is to be the king’s consort? of not being free to do what we want and always doing things that please other people and not ourselves? Come one guys you are telling that we are envious of kate as if being royal or marrying william was the greatest thing in the world. To me it is not. I am so happy to be who I am and stop telling that we are jealous of kate. And by the way, as u say that we don’t know anything about her life, well I’ll tell u the same thing, u don’t know anything about her life and stop telling that she is so happy with william or that she is not lazy because u don’t know her either. Don’t be fooled by those pictures because appearances are not always the reality.
July 8th, 2008 00:56
KED AND RMAN
the above message goes for you. PLEASE READ IT!!!
July 8th, 2008 04:04
I’m not surprised about those DM pics and I don’t feel sorry for Chelsy either. I know that some love her to pieces for being “herself” and being “free spirited” but to me it just looks like a supposedly intelligent young woman making a fool of herself. Those pics have probably been taken from her own or someone elses facebook. It’s her own damn fault that they end up in the DM when she allows private pics of her being published. Apparently she doesn’t care what she looks like but if she seriously considers staying with Harry for the rest of her life or if she wants a job in the field of law, she’ll have to mature and stop the flow of pics. They are embarrassing for her and for Harry. Both of them did quite a good job to appear more responsible and serious as of late but behaviour like this doesn’ t help and makes it only too easy to label her the Party Princess once more.
Nice to see that she has a good time with other men while her b/f works for charity in Lesotho. Imagine that would have been Kate rolling around between two guys, I guess royal doormat would have been the nicest thing she’d be called. But Chelsy is of course being “independent” … yeah, right…
July 8th, 2008 05:59
Well said Trixie!!!
July 8th, 2008 08:02
Have anybody notice the hate towards chelsy and the positive toward kate? Those are chelsy picture if she wants to be normal and have facebook page to keep up with her friends and picture on there that her business. Let her keep the life that she had before she meet harry. And yes she is independent a woman who can take control of her life is independent.
July 8th, 2008 08:25
No one hates Chelsy, we just think she need to be more careful. I actually like her and like the idea of her with Harry. But no one hates her. Sonia, calm down.
July 8th, 2008 08:26
There is no hate, at least in me towards anyone…based on the tons of pics of Chelsy, the posters form an opinion, just like people do with Kate.
Positive or negative…have been directed to both girls by the tabs and by the posters…but on a rate of Kate/Chelsy…hate 4/1 and that is a fact. So when you say positive on Kate, I see the opposite…4 times more of bashing towards her, and many of it unfounded.
July 8th, 2008 08:57
I agree Trixie
I’m 22 yrs. I’m not like CD and I don’t think it’s normal behave like her just because you are young! (as many are writting in DM). There are others females in this site in theirs 20’s who agree with me? Because I can’t stand more everybody saying she is like any other girl in her age. I’m not a saint, but I don’t smoke neither give my boobs for my friends put their mounths (sorry, but it is what the pics are showing) It’s a shame to see someone like this be considered as a representant of the “normal girls” of my genaration. I simply can’t to accept it.
If she isn’t willing to be more discret because she is “royal girlfriend” she should date a rockstar and then it would be absolutely normal.
I also agree if it was Kate… well, well, people would call her b**** (sometimes they say almost this for much, muuuch less) and many other unprintable words. The same happen with William, he obviously isn’t the perfect, but he doesn’t do half that Harry does, but the way he is criticised make he seems the rascal.See the latest: Harry is a hero because he went to war and get dirty, Wills is in a Navy mission and they doubt if he really had take a part in it. Maybe if some pics of him shirtless, dirty and not shaved come up things will change? I think they would easily say it was projected to improve his image (something that Harry need more than him).
What I want to say is that use William’s position as heir to explain the harder judgment they do about him and Kate than about Harry and Chelsy is ridiculous. It would be more honesty if they said it’s free annoyance.
July 8th, 2008 11:19
I don’t hate Chelsy either. I just think it makes her look trashy. I know there are some young girls who act like that, but I don’t feel it is appropriate. It is one thing to be free spirited, but to act like that whether you are dating a royal or not makes you look like a wannabe porn star not a future princess.JMO
July 8th, 2008 11:46
Let me add that I think Chelsy seems like a very nice person and down to earth. Although I don’t know her personally. She seems like such a free spirit and I wonder if she will be able to be “reigned in” by all the rules and expectations that are placed on being a girlfriend of a prince.
July 8th, 2008 12:17
sonia,
If you could but read the jealousy I (we) talk about is not the jealousy of KM, but the jealousy of a way of life.
To be able for you to say and repeat the obnoxious and basically untrue comments about KM then you must have experienced something similar in your own lives.
Let us be honest here, not one of us know PW or KM so all we do is read the comments and make up our minds and relate them to our own experiences . Hence from your comments whch are made subconsciously,you mirror the happenings in your own life. How sad those lives are.
All we know about KM is that she fell in love with a guy and he was attracted to her. Things happen in all relationships and they fell out for various reasons.
They were however still very attracted to one another and this over a long period of time and evntually came together again and again It happens..
KM fought for her man, and to all intents won him. He has realized what she meant to him and decide to fight for her too.
Because of who ‘he’ is these attractions, fights and subsequent make up attract the media and we read about it and make our minds up about what is and has happened from our own experience in life.
If our own experience are happy and fruitful we apply those thoughts to their lives and agree with their actions an happiness.
If like yourself and several others these experiences are unhappy then the converse applies and you think they will act as you have acted in real life.
Your comments therefore reflect your own attitudes to life and obviously from your comments you have sick and unhappy lives.
YES ALL ’sadies’, READ WELL AND INWARDLY DIGEST and remember your comments reflect your inner fears.
July 8th, 2008 13:02
Chelsy’s article isn’t more avaliable in DM! Interesting…
July 8th, 2008 13:04
Again,
But Harry’s charity is there to replace that…
July 8th, 2008 13:32
I noticed that Carla. I think Chelsy has probably complained and I don’t blame her. I don’t know where those photos came from but I suspect they were private and should not have been published.
After seeing those photos I think Kate is right to advise Chelsy on her company. Especially if someone is willing to sell her to the tabloids. From what I can see she’s just goofing around nothing wrong with that. But she has got to watch her back as not everyone in her crowd will be loyal to her. Maybe she could do with Kate’s advice after all.
July 8th, 2008 14:30
That is interesting that they took the pics down.
July 8th, 2008 15:12
I agree with Carla. I’m 22 as well and would not go out doing that even if I did not have a baby and a finacee (we got engaged at the end of June)
I am furthering my education as well but I would not go out doing that. Although, many other people I know do. IMO, young people these days just seem to think that part of having fun is getting drunk (a majority not everyone, especially in the UK). My parents would hit the roof if they saw pictures of me like that.
I’m not sure if Kate has the right to adivse Chelsy because apart from a few indiscreet pictures it is Kate’s reputation that is suffering at the moment - we only have to read some articles recently to see how Kate is being criticized, many times unfairly. Perhaps, if she was able to improve her own public image she would be in a better position to advise Chelsy. Also, both girls have been dating the Princes for a similar amount of time so I would have thought that they would be learning things at roughly the same pace. ( I thought of another point as well but I’ve just forgotten it…whoops! I’ll remember it later and tell you).
July 8th, 2008 15:19
BRW someone has posted comments using my name as well as rmans I did not post that comment above about wanting W & H all over me Please remove it and whoever posted it GROW UP
** BRW - Hmmm strange.. done! **
July 8th, 2008 22:47
KED
I have never made any obnoxious comments about KM. As you are saying that KM and PW are truly in love only from what you see and hear, I am doing the same thing, I am saying that KM seems lazy from what I see and hear. Now, let me tell you that I have a happy life and as you make comments about KM based on what you think, I also make comments about her based on what I think but that doesn’t mean that I do or don’t like her. I don’t really care that much what happens to KM and PW, I post on this website my thoughts about this couple because I think it is fun but I don’t have any types of feelings for these people, and I know what you meant. I know that you meant to say that we are jeaulous of her life style, but let me tell you that the life style she is living is not something to envy. Even rich, titled people can have miserable lives. If being part of the windsor clan was a good lifestyle then we would’ve never seen poor Diana being so miserable because of how rude and miserable the royal life is.
July 9th, 2008 03:15
hello everyone .
B congratulation for the engagement
Carla I’m very proud of you .driking and partying all night doesn’t make one happy .Sadly the young royals don’t seem to understand that I hope that they’ll grow up and change some of their bad happits .
July 9th, 2008 08:53
Thanks sami.
I do think that reports can be interpretated in different ways. E.g. this report could say:
a) Kate has the support of the courtiers
b) Kate does not have enough back bone to go out and do what she wants instead she just does what is necessary for the courtiers to like her.
Thats just an example (probably not the best one but you see what I mean). Overall, people can read the same report and come to different conclusions. I think it depends on a persons’ overall opinion of the topic/ person discussed.
July 9th, 2008 08:56
Not all titled rich people live miserable lives. Diana was miserable because she was in a bad marriage with a man who didn’t love her and she had personal issues that she would have had if she were in the RF or not. Kate seems more mentally stable and she comes from a solid tight knit family which I think will help her transition into royal life. Plus, William and her seem to be really in love and they enjoy the same things. I think it is very important that couples do things together like playing tennis or sailing etc. I don’t think we will see a repeat of PC and diana with km and pw. and again whoever posted that stupid comment under my name don’t do it again. It wasn’t funny, it was cowardly. If you have something you want to say, don’t post using another users name.
July 9th, 2008 13:23
Talking about Chelsy’s recent antics in the DM. It’s not that long since there was an article where Chelsy was annoyed at Harry’s clubbing. So the DM article shows that either the previous article isn’t true or Chelsy is being rather hypocritical.
July 9th, 2008 13:46
I imagine that it is a bit of both to be honest. I think that the DM may exaggerate situations. However, Chelsy may have become annoyed with the amount of clubbing that Harry does in comparision to how much time he spends with ehr not the fact that he actually goes clubbing.
However, I have not heard of Harry clubbing a lot in ages, just occasional nights out.
July 9th, 2008 21:50
I think CD is more easy going and she is more herself. I believe that KM is more submissive, she conforms more and she always pretends to be someone she isn’t because she is too worry of what other people are going to say of her. CD is more rebel and she doesn’t care what other people say.
I think we do have behave properly and give a good image of ourselves but I believe that we should be ourselves and that we do what we think is right and what pleases us and not what other people want.
July 10th, 2008 03:22
I agree with you B
Every thing we read could have more than one interpretaion in fact we see the pictures and read the writer’s piont of view then we believe what we want to believe .
July 10th, 2008 04:13
Well I for one do not need to see Chelsy being “herself” while riding on a guys shoulder with her skirt up - but maybe that’s just me.
Once again the hypocracy is astounding. When there are pap pics of Kate supposedly showing her underwear while she gets into a cap she’s attacked and called a s****.Whenever a pic shows her as much as talking to a man other than William she’s accused of “flirting” and trying to make Will jealous. But pictures of Chelsy rolling around between two guys, riding on the shoulder of another guy and hugging and kissing them that were apparently taken with her permission by friends are ok? I don’t get the double standard.
July 10th, 2008 05:07
Trixie,
I agree with your sentiments entirely and do think that KM has had a rough deal over the past 12-15 months.
I can’t help the thought occurring that PW didn’t do a great deal to help the situation that developed. His attitude at times was quite dismissive towards KM and that encourage doubters and ’slappers’ to feel that they could criticise KM with impunity.
However recently he seems to have become more attentive and more like he was during the 2003-2005 when he couldn’t take his hands or eyes off her.
I can’t help but feel that PW attitude in 2007/early 2008 was his reaction to press atention and his well know loathing of the press corps.
He may well have matured at little now and possibly seen the error of his ways. I do hope so and hope that he now places KM were she should be. That will silence the ’slappers’ especially the half dozen we have on this site.
July 10th, 2008 06:02
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/celebrity-gossip/2008/07/09/royals-chelsy-davy/is-this-how-a-princess-should-behave,geo=5099044.html
July 10th, 2008 08:13
Thanks B and Sami.
About Chelsy and DM’s linkage, I have my doubts because I still remember when her uncle, Paul Davy, gave them a very big interview saying “everything” about her relationship with PH: how he was crazy for her, that they always talk about to get marry, blah, blah, blah…
Curiously, DM is also the newspaper (tabloid for me) which her friends prefer to “reveal the real Chelsy”.All this for free, I guess.
I’ve tried to post not very goog, but still polite, comments on Chelsy’s articles twice, but neither of them were showed.
What a nice and desinterested friendship they have, don’t?
I also liked CD in the beginnig, Harry was never perfect so, why should his girl be? Nothing more fit for him than a mad like her. But she, her family and friends, enjoyed so much all that, they were so available for the press,in that time, that it’s hard for me trust they don’t take any part in her articles.
July 10th, 2008 08:19
“they don’t take any part in her articles”
I want to say: “if they don’t interfere what is write about her (at least in DM)”, because it’s a fact when you are “nice” with press they are “nice” with you.
July 10th, 2008 09:28
What I don’t get is why the DM went on for days about Kate going out with “William look-a-like,” which pails in comparison to the newest Chelsy photos. The DM really seems imo to have it in for Kate. For all we know William and Kate could already be privately engaged and maybe she is taking “princess” classes during the day.
July 10th, 2008 09:48
For Tania and who share her opinions,
If you identify yourself with Chelsy, it isn’t my business, but suggest that Kate is a pretender for not act like her or a weak for be discret isn’t right. I know nobody is interested in my life but I wrote that trying to show people are different and some simply don’t have any necessity to do half what Chelsy does. Neither my neighbors know my name, I hardly see my relatives b/c they live far from me and if my friends try to sell pics of me nobody would pay 1 cent for it, so, I don’t need to impress anyone and althoug my totally anonymous life, I’m still what people like you probably would call BORING and FAKE, but I’m sure I’m absolutely who I am no matter what others think, many say I’m annoying, as you can see and, well, I pay my bills with the money that come from my work (8 hours per day, 5 days a week, 30 days of vacation per year) and this really be INDEPENDENT in my opinion, not be a naughty child who DEPENDS of daddy’s money! You can say: it’s b/c she is studying and come with the old comment that it makes her better than Kate “the lazy”, but remember that at 22 Kate was studying too, so when Chelsy turns 25, 26 working in a full-time worthy job and not traveling several times, you can tell if she is really all this.
PS: about the job question I’m not hurt because Kate has more free time than me. It’s for have “a real job” I can see that many who have apparently great careers didn’t get that honestly. What make me admire Kate is exactly her behaviour and the way she was raised (with values that money and degrees can’t give to no one).
Sorry for those who I’m beeing intolerable with all things about myself. I’m just trying to illustrate something.
July 10th, 2008 10:20
Since Chelsy has been home in Africa, new pictures continue to come in on another blog and she is so trashed. I thought she had more sense than to get so drunk. I would be concerned that someone would take advantage of her and she’d be too out of it to know! She is in a different league now that she is dating a prince, so getting trashed is not acceptable any more for her. There are to many people willing to sell/give photos of her in these compromising postions. She is no longer a normal 22 year old just having a jolly time. That normality ended when she met Harry.
July 10th, 2008 10:28
After 4 years of William, Harry, Kate and Chelys photos, the “usual” characteristics of each of them in photograph, don’t you think is part of there personality.
So why would anyone think that Kate has been pretending for 6 years.
gracie I heard of that blog, do you have the site address ? Thanks
July 10th, 2008 10:52
I just think Kate needs to think more about William’s feelings as much as she thinks about her own.
July 10th, 2008 10:54
I think the reason why the DM removed the article of Chelsy so quickly was because they were private pictures (or looked it to me anyway). Therefore, it could be said that by publishing them they were invading her privacy. An article also remains if it has had a lot of comments sent to it. There more popular the article has proven to be the longer it will stay on the website.
I do think that comparing Kate and Chelsy is unfair to both as they are different people dating different men who have different positions in life. However, I do believe that a comparision can be made and that the age gap does not make much difference because it is only 4 years. I think when comparing what they have done since studying we should remember that whilst Kate was studying when she was 22, when she finished she did not have a job for a long time. However, when Chelsy finished studying at Capetown, she went and studied some more and continued working. Both have undergraduate degrees but Chelsy is the only person who has used it and/or furthered her education.
I feel sorry for Kate in a way because she has dug herself a hole. If she works people will say that it is just for publicity but if she does not people will criticize her for not doing so. I think she should look at the long term opinion, whilst people would say that she is just improving a public image if she worked, that opinion would be a short term one if it was clear that she was working hard (i.e. 5 days a week, 8+ hours, occasional holidays).
Chelsy is the one who is seen to be drinking more and partying but we do not know when the images were taken. The newspaper claims that they are recent but can we be sure that they are? I have seen pictures which only crop up after several years e.g. PW dancing with the blonde Australian girl at the wedding and Carly whatshername.
Gracie, you say that the DM has it in for Kate but I think that the DM has it in for both girls at the moment. I think that it is more obvious that they are being negative towards Kate now because they were so positive for such a long time. On the other hand, reports have always been more negative towards Chelsy so we are used to it. I have explained above why I thought that the images were removed/ article removed from the website quickly.
I made a comment on another forum many weeks ago which I would like to share with you. Please tell me what you think as it is my honest opinion about the situation with Kate and William. It is very long and I am sorry about that. I shall use quotations but I promise you that it is me who originally wrote it.
“I think that William wants to feel loved and I believe that it stems from his childhood. His parents marriage feel apart and unlike Zara Peter, he was more involved that them and more involved than most children are in their parents’ relationship. I have heard reports which said that he used to push tissues under the bathroom door to Diana whilst comforting her. I think that he is scared that after seeing so many marriage in the modern day collapse, that his will do the same and I believe that he is almost scared of having to go through those circumstances. If he is scared/ worried about the prospect of a failed marriage, it maybe one of the reasons that he got back with Kate; she had stayed with him for a long time and I think that he felt secure within the relationship. He may have felt worried about forming new relationships just in case it did not work and it was too late for him to go back with Kate. (Does anybody watch Friends and the “Fear” which Chandler talks about as a reason for not quitting his job in season 1/2?) Well, I think that it is a similar concept here.
I don’t know if Kate is the right woman for William and I don’t think anybody knows that other than William himself or maybe some close family and friends. But I do think that he is unwilling to “test the waters” as they say, just in case it does not work out. I think that he is afraid of the “risk” involved and the possibility that he will remain single. So that’s why I think he got back with Kate.
Now, he may love Kate but I still feel unsure about a possible marriage because of what he apparently said to the Queen about loving Kate but not enough to marry her. Although, they have spent more time together and look like a couple (FINALLY!), I do not feel confident about them marrying. I believe that another year or two where they continue to look like a couple and there are no ultimatums (it was that actually that made Kate annoy me as I used to be a huge fan of hers), and no break-ups over silly things, then they will be strong enough as a couple for marriage.
Whether or not they are soulmates, I don’t know but I believe that it will be seen with time. As I often say, “what will come will come and it happens for a reason.
Now to discuss Kate; I do not believe for one second that Kate is a social climbing gold digger. I think that she may have liked the idea of dating PW in her teens but I think that it was like all school girl crushes. I think that Carole may have liked the idea of them dating when they actually began to date but not before. This means that I do not believe that there was any plan for the two of them to meet and date- it just happened. However, after they began to date I think that Carole may have began to see the advantages of her daughter dating a prince and may have pushed her into going along with the relationship when it was tough. I do not believe that she is as quite as pushy as some articles have suggested though. I also think that it was still Kate making the decisions - at least I hope it was considering she is 26 and was still an adult when they were dating. If she was easily pressurised by her mother then I do not think that she would be a good addition to the RF as I think that the future Queen needs to be assertive and will need to know her own mind yet still polite and gentle etc. I do believe that Kate loves William even if half the attraction is the crown rather than William himself, I do think that she does adore him and would want it to work.
However, I do not understand why there are so many reports of ultimatums. She was only 24 in December 2006 when the first story of an ultimatum appeared and I do not understand why she would have been so worried about a ring when she was and is so young. To me, the fairytale is not marrying a prince or marrying young, it is marrying the right person.
What do I think will happen in the future? Well, who can say? I do think that there will be another rough patch for both of them but then that is normal for most couples to have arguments. I would like to see William being properly settled into royal duties before he even proposes to Kate and I would love to see Kate get a job or do some type of work just so she proves that she is hard working. I think that the public opinion of the relationship needs to improve before an engagement is announced and I hope that both Kate and William are happy with whatever the future holds for them both; whenever together or apart. “
July 10th, 2008 10:55
I’m sorry that the above post was so long I just thought that it would explain what I mean clearer.
July 10th, 2008 11:07
I know many young hopefuls are disappointed with William’s choice, but Catherine seems to be what William needs, and to me, that is what is important.
If he is as reluctant and insecure as many seem to suggest, wouldn’t it make logical sense that he wouldn’t want a Superwoman who made him feel incompetent, or half a man? Catherine probably sees pictures of him on his trip in Montserrat rescuing the play actors injured in a mock catastrophe and thinks: “Now, that’s heroic — and patriotic,” whereas many other young girls might think he looks goofy and laugh. So you see, she admires him, and who doesn’t like to be admired by the one who loves them?
ASfter all, William’s father seems to be doing better with the less accomplished Camilla than the hard-working Diana, who he felt often upstaged him.
It seems that simple, pretty and patient Catherine might just be the very right thing for William.
July 10th, 2008 11:15
Fernie did William tell you that ?
July 10th, 2008 12:40
Please Britains answer me:
After Diana death William was adored for most, close to be considered perfect. Now he’s being criticized each time he appear, even if he is doing good things.
-It’s just impression, because of the comments in tabloids, or his popularity is really falling in UK?
If the answer is YES, why do you think it’s happen? It’s b/c his date with Kate? b/c people thought he would be and act different from what he seems to do now?
I can’t understand how and why the opinions about him has change so much and suddenly if to me he seems to be the same he ever was.
July 10th, 2008 13:59
I can’t say, because it might get into the papers. :p
July 10th, 2008 14:01
July 10th, 2008 14:05
I’d say it’s because people just want to gossip and they don’t want to read a book or talk to their neighbors, so instead they barge in on William because he seems somewhat mysterious in nature and people like mysteries.
July 10th, 2008 14:07
Although I’m not British but I feel like it. I think his popularity was failing when he seen partying alot but now we can clearly see that he and Harry have changed alot. They seem to be more dutiful than ever and now taking things more seriously. William is now in his mid twenties and preparing for his future role, Harry seem to have growed up fast and trying to leave that bad boy image behind him. They are including their companions into more things, which tells us that they are taking their relationships to another level. After Diana’s death, they were young and didn’t have much say in things but they are taking more control over things and Britian see much hope in them. They only thing they have to do now is travel the commonwealth and gain the Monarchy’s respect back. They Queen is good in doing that so hopefully they will learn from her.
July 10th, 2008 14:09
Plus, most ppl find reading a blog easier than reading a book for some strange reason that I haven’t fully understood yet.
July 10th, 2008 14:43
I don’t think they were ever bad boys.
July 10th, 2008 15:44
Here’s a Fox News Report.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380022,00.html
July 10th, 2008 16:35
She parties 4 times a week…that just made me laugh
July 10th, 2008 18:04
learn to not rush into marriage when your not ready
July 10th, 2008 18:08
watch out your next to get booted from site ,merrick .keep it up as long as you can.if you feel beaten ,and brused go to the royal truth .co.cc site u always have friends there,and they do not censor so much
July 10th, 2008 19:53
Jenny you are right by people not rushing into marriage when their not ready, that’s why they have waited and courted this long.
July 10th, 2008 20:25
I’ve missed the interesting debate that has gone this long… almost 100 responses! Congratulations.
Let me share my ideas. I believe that in an ideal world we shouldn’t be comparing Kate and Chelsy. I like both girls. I like it that they’re very different. I like it that Kate seems well suited for William and Chelsy for Harry.
About Kate not having a job: we do not know that for sure. My best guess is that she works for her parents and therefore has flexible hours. Do I wish we had more proof of her working or doing charities? Yes. But if the goal is to keep a low profile, then I think she’s doing what’s best… stay in Berkshire, work for your parents and get the at least a little bit of privacy.
About Chelsy’s recent photos: this one actually bothered me. With Chelsy’s personality, I have no doubt that she clowns around, and although I’d love to see a more toned-down image, I totally respect her right to have fun after a long and hard year. But she ought to be more careful! Those pics were snapped by someone close. If she isn’t sure about the people surrounding her then she shouldn’t get too drunk. It’s perfectly fine for anyone else, but sadly, Chelsy’s connection to Harry means she’s a hot target. If she wants to survive in this royal scene, she ought to be more careful.
July 10th, 2008 21:03
I don’t know if you guys had seen this but here is the link.
http://willskateupdate.blogspot.com/2008/07/kate-following-in-sophie-rhys-joness.html
July 10th, 2008 22:23
But I also believe a man knows right away if he wants to marry a woman ,he is unsure that is why he has waited so long,from happily married sixteen years,my husband said he knew on the first date ,these princes who date these girls 3-5 -8 years are ruining there reputations ,and this trend should stop
July 11th, 2008 02:18
True Jenny but it’s not that way with all of us men. There was a recent study on Yahoo that men who like being in long relationships will most likely to marry that woman. William is in a different situation, he has to do this very carefully and it’s not all about if she’s the right woman, he know she is but this is all planned out and it work in stages. Members of the royal family take their relationships through stages to get to an engagement and wedding. They obviously focusing on William finishing up his training so he can have a clear way for all of this to happen and it’s working. It really is the best thing to do.
July 11th, 2008 02:37
well it’s intriguing to try to figure out pw’s recent and welcome change of heart and behavior toward km
does his stance toward the media explain it? if so, how? this theory is supported by that cynical pose he adopted back in autumn, where he kissed km and put his arm around her, all the while gazing into the camera
but why would he make km suffer simply because of his distaste with the media?
i think ked had another theory back then: that pw had actually proposed to km in fall and had been turned down…and that this rejection explained his distance, unloving, at times hostile, behavior toward km
so, again, what explains the change?
July 11th, 2008 05:35
Couples have ups and downs, fights, breakups reconciliations, etc which is normal to the human beings and part of life. When two human beings love each other, thats the only path to keep on. When two persons take separate ways, there wasn’t the love. Those things happen even for a Prince and a Commoner.
They are not from another planet, he was born to be King, she is a commoner living an “extraordinary” situations, both are the most seeked persons by the media…no other couple worldwide has to live up to the scrutiny of the public. So, in other words, I admire both of them, they have managed very well everything that has gone through there path that have been recorded in good/bad articles, pics.
July 11th, 2008 07:03
“does his stance toward the media explain it? if so, how? this theory is supported by that cynical pose he adopted back in autumn, where he kissed km and put his arm around her, all the while gazing into the camera”
Why cynical?
William never seemed to pretend anything to please others, that’s why people has criticized him in my opinion. He had the best image in his favour - and in British Monarchy’s too - but simply didn’t make any effort to keep it.
He was called Prince Charming, but instead to be more discreet/fake about his real behaviour to keep his popularity (and save the Monarchy as many said) he goes frequently to clubs where the papparazi can take pictures of him and he doesn’t seem to care that everybody will see that he get totally drunk all the times.
If he isn’t worried to be showed in a bad light for this, that’s much worse for him, why would he wanted be cynical about KM, which many doesn’t like to be his girlfriend?
July 11th, 2008 07:43
That’s a way to show the “media” that KM is his girl. The fall out in April 2007 IMO was a break up - but again - since he is a public figure - we all found out, if they weren’t a public figure, it would be considered normal as I explained above. Nothing extraordinary, reconciliations happen if there is love. One learns what you have after you loose it, as the saying goes.
I don’t see anything cynical about that, in other words, in my personal life/experience these things have happened to a friend, reconciliation and no one called him a cad, her a doormat, on the contrary a celebration of life and love, simply put it this way, he learned that he does really love her to go back, otherwise, he wouldn’t have.
I think many not all people at their 20’s get drunk, but it was more frequent last year, he hasn’t or I haven’t seen those kind of pics lately, perhaps the BBB, but nothing else, 1 in 7 months !
July 11th, 2008 07:48
On the same note, when a couple are “known” to be non PDA, then gradually as in PW/KM case, more public appearances, light PDA (lol - BBB pics), then PERHAPS both are sure that their feelings are “secured”, no doubts.
I actually don’t PDA sure or not sure of the significant other.
July 11th, 2008 08:16
What’s PDA?
July 11th, 2008 08:20
Public Display of Afection
July 11th, 2008 08:31
Oh, another thing: I agree with you Me most of your posts and about K and W be a couple like many others in their falls. This shows their relationship is true, because nobody is happy all the time, neither in our families we can agree with each to other always and it’s normal wanted to enjoy others company (not romantic) some times, this is life.
Glued couples, without any difference, are the questionable for me.
July 11th, 2008 08:34
“each to other “: each other, I want mean.
I write with dictionary´s help, what’s obvious!
July 11th, 2008 08:36
Thanks Me. You use it just for famous or for everyone?
July 11th, 2008 10:03
Maybe they are more public with their PDA because they know something that we the public don’t. In one of the photos from William b-day, his friend is seen trying to pull Kate’s arm, as if he wanted to see something she was hiding. This photo is the one under the tent she and William shared. Don’t know the guy’s name in the photo, although he is seen alot with the them. Then there is the photo of the next day Kate in white sweater sitting on hill gestering to her chest. I work with a plastic surgeon not in UK and when I saw that picture and the area in which she was holding her hands looks as though imo she could have been discussing some type of augmentation. I am being medical and not crude. I think that’s why she was acting weird with her scarf in photos at Whiskey Bar. I am not saying this is the case, but her face does look more refined compared to even 07 pictures. What ever she is doing though, I think she looks great.
July 11th, 2008 11:14
Gracie, that would certainly surprise me if Kate had or was going to have anything enlarged or “fixed” as she is quite the natural beauty and William does not appear to go for the pneumatic type to start with, at least judging from his previous girlfriends. A tall, skinny minnie seems to be his preference!
As William becomes more certain of his destiny with Kate, and more sure of her deepest love and loyalty, it would seem logical that he is allowing himself to be seen being more affectionate with her in public — jmo
July 11th, 2008 11:15
me, yes, i agree, but the past many months have been more puzzling than mere ‘ups and downs’, IMHO
carla, i was referring to one particular photo episode, wherein pw cynically kissed km, largely soley for the camera
otherwise…..those were great photos of km….she certainly is a beauty and very sweet and wholesome looking
July 11th, 2008 12:44
Anastasia,
Can you post a link to this picture? Or describe it and will I search for, b/c I still don’t know what picture is.
Was in Boxing Day?- yes I remembered know - b/c it seems he saw the paparazzi before kiss Kate in that occasion. If the pics were showed in the right sequence, well, unfortunatelly I agree with you, my first reaction when saw that pics was doubt of his romantic intentions. But maybe the the tabs could posted in a order that made us think this - as he uses to kiss her that way when ‘nobody’ is looking or close to them (in the ski trips) -, and what really happened was that he kissed her first and realized they were photographed after… I would like it was this way, but honestly I don’t belive much in my own version. So I’m sorry…
July 11th, 2008 13:03
I think Anastasia is refering to the hunting picture at Windsor, where PW fingerpoints to the paparazzi and hugs and kisses Kate Middleton. But, JMO I actually liked that he did that purposely, its like flipping them a finger.
July 11th, 2008 13:33
Hope no one was offended by my last observation. I think Kate and Chelsy both are very pretty each in their own way. The prince choices in girlfriends I find interesting because it shows how different William and Harry are. Chelsy reminds me of Diana in certain ways. Maybe to Harry too. She just needs to either stop getting so drunk or find new company to hang with. I do think something is up with Wills and Kate though, in a good way. So hopefully they will announce an engagement. I wonder if the harewood park estate is complete yet or maybe the new home in Wales could be for them? I hope Kate gets a great ring.
July 11th, 2008 13:41
And in what way does Chelsy remind you of Diana ?
July 11th, 2008 13:47
Gracie, I don’t understand English very well, but you are supposing that Kate has put, or intend to, implants in her breasts?
I don’t know she is the kind that would do plastic surgery. It seems she prefer sports to gym and healthy food to be in shape, but as neither of them can raise her breats… who knows?
About the pic in polo game I thought and still think she was describing a clothes detail to the other woman, not explain a surgery process. If you look her new pics riding bicycle you have the impression her breasts are bigger, but last year, when she was training for that boat race, there are a picture when she isn’t with her usual bra, to tell you the truth to me she wasn’t using one that day and what surprised me, was the fact they seemed bigger than in her usual bra, as the same way in the latest pics.
Anyway 5 years has passed since pictures of her beggining to be published frequently. She was leaving her teeage years and now she is adult, is normal she has changed - as William who is thin on top, very sad -, the difference is she looking better now, I agree her face is more refined than in 2004, for example, I think it’s b/c she lost that fat face common when we are younger. Many say she seems old and she’s becoming more and more thin, but in my opinion only her face has changed and it looked older/tired in the past than now.
Backing to the chest question, her mother and her sister are more blessed in that part, maybe she is like one of her grandmothers or aunts.
It’s also make me remember last year when I was sure Chelsy had reduced her nose. Just this year I realize it continues the same, sould be an angle or make up effect.
July 11th, 2008 13:55
I don’t think Kate had plastic surgery either. She looks like she always did/does in the recent pics to me. It’s probably just the angle.
I agree that unlike his brother William doesn’t seem to go for busty women. None of his rumoured g/f’s was and neither is his supposed crush Isabella Calthorpe.
July 11th, 2008 14:33
Me,
I only know what everyone else knows about Diana. From whats been reported and what friends say and even in some of her photos she seemed very gregarious and like to have fun. That’s what I see in Chelsy. In photos she is seen touching babies and playing with a dog, that reminds me of photos I have seen of Diana. Just an observation. Kate is more reserved, but that doesn’t mean she isn’t the same in private. Look, I think Kate is beautiful and is a natural beauty. I have no proof that she has had any “work” done. I know different angles, lighting, weight gain or loss can change appearances. But, don’t kid yourself if you think that girls her age or even younger don’t visit a plastic surgeon. Not everyone goes, but I see weathly women all ages 18-up that come in to do microderm abrasion, tip refinements and botox. I was just giving my opinion. Since I worked with a doctor I look at things differently. Just because someone get augmentation doesn’t mean that they have to look like Pamela Anderson or Jordan. People do have small implants put in. I think Charles loves Camilla natural, but there is no denying that she has had some type of up-keep done since they have been married. IMO. They are constantly photographed and why not look their best. If you look at some of the photos of people in royal family or just in normal life when the sun is shining directly on their faces and they make no frown lines it’s probably botox. Especially when the husband, boyfriend standing next to them is squinting.
July 11th, 2008 15:05
“William does not appear to go for the pneumatic type to start with, at least judging from his previous girlfriends. A tall, skinny minnie seems to be his preference!”
I totally agree! Some don’t accept that Kate’s type is what he prefer, the press always said he liked “blondes with long legs”, but time shows it’s more for Harry than for William.
I was thinking exactly about this today b/c of the comments of those who doubt Wills really like Kate and think he probably don’t feel attraction for b/c she has few curves and a girly body - this is their opinion, not mine. But look for his former girlfriends:
-Amanda Bush (from polo club): had similar gesture and discretion to Kate - that long hair too;
- Arabella Musgrave: as Kate, green eyes, hollows in face (I want ot say that close to lips, please what’s a nice and usual name for this?) and delicate feature;
-Carly (from uni): I don’t know very much, but if she dated him, she is brunette;
-Zara Simmonds (the first he kissed, at least that I heard): now her hair is close to white, but the original is brown, and she is very delicate;
-Jecca Craig: they say she is blonde but her hair is always brown to me, less curves of all them. I’m not sure they dated too, besides I think if it happened, doesn’t mean he fall in love for her. My point of view: he has passed 6 months in her father’s lands, it seems she was the only female there, so it just happen, an affair. I know it’s insensible, but Will is man and men do it.
And his favourite muse:
- Cindy Crowford: she was model,so I don’t need to say she was very slim, and that beautiful hair in 80’s (the best in my opinion)
I’m sure I forgot someone and know there are some blonds in his life too, but these are the most important and certain,they are all brunette, “few curves”, thin and much more delicate than fatal.
The same for Kate ex: blonde, tall, great body, Rupert Finch is dark hair.. but anyway they are each other’s type!
July 11th, 2008 15:18
I know many young girls has surgery, what’s an absurd and why they have all the same body and face, and there is the fake blonde too. This is a reason I like Kate beauty, many say she just normal as any other girl, but as they all turn the same thing Kate become rare! Who knows as these celetries really are without plastic and photo shop? Maybe Kate is really prettier than all them. I’m glad Wills is different of most of men, in something. Not be impressed by all that fake show he has a brain.
About Isabella I’ve posted this in other article, but I think nobody saw:
“search for Isabella Calthorpe in Rex Features. The endless-name, wonderful, gorgeous, most beautiful, with the best backgroud of UK, the incredible actress,the love of William’s life, his fixation and desire above any other woman in Earth, “the only who make Kate jealous” (it’s not my exaggeration but the press/DM one) are now described just as Sam Branson girlfriend.
Lord how things has changed!”
July 11th, 2008 17:08
I don’t think Kate pretends to be someone she is not. None of us know that she is less reserved in private. I think she acts like a lady and if she is pretending, so be it. I would much rather come across as a lady than a ****. There is a double standard when it comes to CD and KM. People say CD is just being herself or free spirited, Kate (like someone previously said) gets out of the taxi and some pap gets a private shot and she is smashed for it. Yet, Chelsy pics ( private they may be) were disgusting imo. I never acted like that at 22 and would not care to.
July 11th, 2008 18:06
Do most women like William because he is William, or because he is a prince?
July 11th, 2008 18:19
I think alot of William’s appeal to women and girls is the fairytale idea of him being a Prince but I always thought he was very handsome, charming, and had a wonderful personality. So I guess if you put the whole package together, that’s a big appeal. Handsome, sexy, rich and royal. But really, it’s also what’s inside a person and William seemingly has got it!!
July 11th, 2008 18:27
I really do think people like William for who he is not because he’s a Prince. Being royal is not impressive as it use to be. Know there are women out there that would love to be with him because of his status but get mean looks by those around him and from that girl that got him in check (Catherine).
July 11th, 2008 18:50
If people don’t think it’s so impressive anymore, why are there always crowds of people whenever they walk anywhere? Why do the press keep following them? Are they that bored, or do the papers sell with their names in it?
July 11th, 2008 20:16
Apryl, what I mean is royalty is not impressive as it was back in the old days. But with the media age, there’s a new look at royalty. There was more to it when Kings & Queens ruled.
July 11th, 2008 20:57
That’s true.
July 12th, 2008 01:54
Ha Ha, how much I wish wills was my boyfriend, and I wish he would take me to all those same places he takes KM. I wish I was in KM place to become a princess. Unfortunately, PW has eyes only for KM. how jeaulous she makes me, Ha Ha.
July 12th, 2008 02:03
While I believe that now PW and KM are very in love, I do believe that there was a time when love in PW and KM relationship was fading but at the end they were able to rescue it. There were many signs that their relationship was having problems back in around 2006 or 2007 when william just purchased a simple pair of earings for Kate and when he was being very inattentive to her (which ended their relationship), but I believe that after this crisis they were able to rescue their relationship, but who knows for how long. This relationship may end up again or they may get married. Who knows. there are two possibilities as to why they are together, it may that they are in love or may be that they are just used to be together. In reality no one is an expert on this relationship because no one knows them so we all just make comments on what we think but there are no proves for anything.
July 12th, 2008 02:32
Answer to Jade Falzon’s comment.
I think that you are right that a lot of people are attracted to PW because he is a Prince and he found that many girls wanted to date him because of that fact when he was at SA. However, I think that it is mainly KM’s generation that had the crushes on PW. The younger generation grew up with different pin ups.
July 12th, 2008 07:57
Hello,
I deceided not to comment for a few days as this is the silly season without news so someone has to make up stories.
I have read the comments with interest and in all honestly well over 70%, by number, are utter rubbish.
Sorry but that is how it reads
July 12th, 2008 08:16
but you need to write that comment… ???
Gossip darling
take it easy
July 12th, 2008 08:20
Only if you miss wrote and meant to say “articles”, which I would agree, except for the PR Revolution - very interesting - but from your fellow posters (comments), in all honesty, you woke up with your left foot.
Happy weekend.
July 12th, 2008 11:42
I know what you mean Ked, the only good story is that change is coming for William & Harry own office. It looks like Chelsy is now catching unwanted attention for her silliness last week.
I think she need to check herself before she wreck herself.
http://tinyurl.com/5t4yvc
July 12th, 2008 12:50
Hahaha….oh, Rman! You always make me laugh when you occasionally throw in a catch-phrase of some sort at the end of your posts! Love it!
July 12th, 2008 13:38
Lol, I just thought it would be great to add that in. The press is on these girls like “White on rice” so being careful is key. Even though you are having fun in private, somehow there’s always a camera around that will catch you in the act which won’t win you an Oscar.
July 12th, 2008 14:39
That is funny
July 12th, 2008 23:01
sorry guys, in my opinion this two royal girlfriends is definitely no royal materials.both are woman of no substance..
July 13th, 2008 02:53
cristina,
So Lady X and Princesss Y would be your choice as partners for PW and PH and to h*** with personal choice and happiness.
Think Charles and Lady Diana , cristina.
Possibly arranged and disaster ensued.
PW ad PH know best what and who they like.
By the way, describe ” nosubstance”
July 14th, 2008 00:16
Ked
I have been reading all the comments here at the blong and I have the perception that you are very defensive of kate and only want people to say good comments about Kate. I just would like you to respect other people’s opinions because we all are free to say whatever we want here at the blog. This is free speech and people not necesserarly have to say only good comments about kate and the royals.
July 14th, 2008 03:07
dimpi,
I have no objection to views expressed or whatever is said.
What I object to is that once made the comment is repeated,repeated and repeated to suggest that it is true.
Unfortunately, it appears that there are at least three ‘commentators’ who are in fact the same person who initiates comment and then amplifies the comment by repeating it under the guise of it being a second, third etc atatement.
Read the initial comments, then the repeats and study the grammar,punctuation (or lack of) and sometimes spelling.
Sorry, yes I object to such comments especially when they are suggested as being true when they are only an expression of a point of view.
Again sorry if I offend you
July 14th, 2008 08:23
Indeed it was a slow news week, but just think this time next year we will be getting all sorts of absolutely wonderful details about the pending Big Day!
Looks like Bruce Oldfield is gunning to do The Dress for KM — odd though that while in one breath he dismissed all of us TopShoppers “if it’s a cheap dress, then it looks like a cheap dress” whilst praising Kate, who is also known to be a TopShopper. He is obviously a bit of a sycophant but KM will have lots of those around before she knows it, so it is absolutely lovely that she will at least, at the very least, have the secure love of her birth family to always fall back upon when those royal seas get rough — and rough they will get, if past is prologue!
July 14th, 2008 12:34
“Looks like Bruce Oldfield is gunning to do The Dress for KM”
You make me understand what he want with that interview.
July 14th, 2008 12:40
I don’t think KM will choose him to do the dress if she marries PW. Bruce is promoting his bridal store that recently opened its doors to the public (aristocracy).
And after reading the smallish bashing he does to his dead client (Di: clothes horse, clueless, KM dresses MUCH better, MORE elegant…)
July 14th, 2008 12:51
Bruce Oldfield is name dropping nothing more and nothing less. Which paper would have mentioned his store opening if it wasn’t for the Kate-Diana bit?
July 14th, 2008 15:53
cristina
you say CD and KM are not royal material probably because they misbehave but just wanted to remind you that PW and PH have had very embarrasing behaviors. For example PH dressing as a Nazi or PW landing helicopter on KM home’s backyard, I don’t think this is royal material either.
July 15th, 2008 12:25
Who are the Royal courtiers? where did could media get this info from? Hmmm????
July 16th, 2008 22:48
Joe
most likely it is just the media who are making up these stories because they don’t have anything else to talk about. KM is keeping a low profile and they have to make something up. Nobody in reality knows what the heck is going on with these people.
July 18th, 2008 06:42
if wills and Royal family wants Catherine Middleton quick to get job it means they are doesn’t like it to have candidate Royal who still unemployed, i don’t like that at all, it’s seem Indonesian Boy’s at my country who wants marrying a women who had working for help they husband to fulfil a money for they marriage, it’s like matrealistic Guy. if Catherine marrying wills, Catherine doesn’t to fill a money to fulfil they marriage cause Wills must do it that because his a man