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Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy fail to impress French photographer – The Telegraph
Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy may be the darlings of British photographers, but they have failed to win over the celebrated French snapper Michel Comte. “William and Harry — they are good in their own skin, don’t you think?” he says of the Princes. “The girlfriends are not so pretty.”…
How playboy royals became tabloid heroes – The Guardian
A changing of the PR guard at Clarence House has helped to repair the images of Princes William and Harry. It is a compare and contrast case study that will no doubt appear in PR textbooks in years to come. Return to the tabloids of three years ago, and Princes William and Harry were not faring well. Here’s a drunken Harry groping a female friend, or sparking outrage by wearing a swastika armband to a fancy dress party…
Kate Middleton Parties Without Security – FOX News
Let me tell you a secret: Kate Middleton — princess in waiting — who parties at least four times per week, is without security. I know, how mad is that? But it would appear that the British public doesn’t want to pay for the security until she is married to Prince William. I can reveal that Kate is “fine with this“ and fully understands…
Queen Victoria’s ‘queen-size’ bloomers had a 50-inch waist! – Daily India / ANI
A pair of Queen Victoria’s bloomers has been discovered, and they suggest that the famous British monarch had a large 50-inch waist. “It’s hard to imagine, say, a likely future Queen such as Kate Middleton wearing these. Some accounts claim Victoria had a waist measurement of up to 60 inches by the 1890s, and these items certainly suggest a fair girth,” Telegraph quoted auctioneer Charles Hanson, as saying…
July 13th, 2008 19:52
Hey, read what the Bruce Oldfield said about fashion and Kate.
http://tinyurl.com/5gydzt
July 14th, 2008 03:36
Not a very nice article from the Independent. Looks like Will will have to pay for those helicopter rides for quite some time. They won’t give it a rest, will they?
“Last week, their public images continued to go in opposite directions. While Harry was off building houses for AIDS victims, William, it emerged, had been taking expensive helicopter jaunts to the Isle of Wight to attend a stag weekend.
William seems have forgotten the Diana way: AIDS victims in the morning followed by glamorous jaunts in the evening.
And that’s why, even if his older brother becomes king, it’s Harry who’ll always be the more popular royal.”
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/news-gossip/royal-heirs-and-disgraces-for-woeful-wills-1432167.html
July 14th, 2008 05:04
Hello,
Isn’t the article just typical. Knock,knock,knock and the circulation inproes (in Independent terms +100 is good).
Trixie, don’t worry about it something else will take the place of the helicopter within a week or so.
I wonder if PW and PH may both get home ‘early’ for the w/end 27th July. If there are other Polo supporters perhaps they can confirm the Polo test match at Beaufort Club on Sunday 27th July. England v Australia.
PW and PH are both very enthusiastic supporters of the England Polo team and this is the Big Match.
PW may need early leave and PH may need permission from CD ?
Let’s see what the paperts make of that if they manage to get home for it.
July 14th, 2008 06:55
Two fool articles without any news.
Fashion designers getting the willies over who doesn’t use their clothes or accessories, trying to put them down of their clients and boot-likers and the eternal Caim X Abel (the goog and the bad) competition created by the press are the oldest artifice from who doesn’t have a consistent and significant subject to write, since the celebrity-press appear on the past century.
July 14th, 2008 07:32
But I agree with Bruce, I’m saying about this kind of article.
July 14th, 2008 08:34
Regarding the negative comments about the two Royal GF’s made by the so-called French photographer, I have only one thought: is the man blind?
“Not very pretty?” or something to that effect? Heavens, our Kate is a perfect English Rose and anyone who would not find her a ravishing beauty is obviously either an idiot or more inclined towards the “beauty” of Amy Winehouse. I’d certainly like to see a picture of his wife or daughter, if he is of that persuasion. What a judgemental fool, emphasis on “mental”!
July 14th, 2008 09:30
Na, actually he is pist off that Mario Testino will be the official photographer
of any KM or CD pics before this declaration, after the declaration and the frenchy really need publicity about the ending price of sale of the Carla Bruni nude picture, so he included the “the girlfriends are not pretty” LOL
July 14th, 2008 10:20
Alsgal
don’t worry about any word from this man for two simple reasons:
-first, if he doesn’t see pretty in Kate’s type he doesn’t see it in the first lady Bruni-Sarkozy too, b/c they have the same physic characteristics – tall, thin and dark hair (no way is means they are similar).
-second and more imortant, as the article said he did that nude photo of Carla and Kate at least keep herself dressed. Besides Kate is dressed by herself and don’t wearing a fancy dress of Jackie Kennedy or what maison Dior give to her to impress people.
Another point from my own: Kate ins’t a Royal member yet, but shows more capacity to be a stateman’s wife than Mrs Sarko. When she isn’t posing for the pics she simply don’t concentrate herself in what is going on. I know she had make a good impression in UK but in Ingrid Betancourt speech in France while everybody was celebrating her liberation, Carla, who as behind Ingrid, had her arms crossed and was looking impatiently for nowhere.It was so obvious she was irrited b/c another one was came all the shots instead of her. The worst is that people fall in her “harmless” and “innocent” type.For God’s sake! she is a 40 yrs woman who pretend to be 20.
If Kate become Princess I’m sure the Britains will have a much better public woman than Frechs. Maybe not in her wardrobe but surely in her ways.
I don’t like Chelsy and I don’t know if you are Britain, but if you are you can be proud b/c your princes aren’t with ornament-women, they, C and K,can be called of several names (lazy, social climber, party-loving…) but don’t change to see people happy with them and that’s why they doesn’t pleased everybody as Mrs Bruni-Sarkozy.
July 14th, 2008 13:31
The Lady Rose Windsor will get married on the 19th at Kensington Palace. It’s seems love in the air this year. Catherine and Chelsy are very beautiful women and I’m sure their beauty will come out more once things become official. That photographer have no idea what he’s talking about.
July 14th, 2008 14:53
Rman,
I really admire your consistency but I believe the engagement your looking for is at least a year and a half away.
KM has apparently been acknowledged as PW Girlfriend and that may just work against an early announcement of a marriage.
Perhaps we have all got it wrong and KM may be the one holding back as she faces the biggest upheaval in her life.
Once that announcement is made she well understands that her life will not be her own and perhaps she just isn’t ready for that upheaval despite her love for PW.
I would love to see it all tidied up but am realistic enough to know that there must be lots to learn about the constitution,the precedence and protocol unless she is doing that now in a quiet way.
It is a huge step for her as she moves from a virtual zero ranking to the third lady in the commonwealth.
Rman, believe me its a massive step and must be quite awesome for her to contemplate despite the years she has had to think about it.
July 14th, 2008 15:25
I think the article in “The Independent” is stupid.
July 14th, 2008 15:46
I agree Ked, it is a big step and I’m sure she is preparing herself for it at the moment. She is very relaxed in royal company and just at The Garter ceremony alone she acted like she was the wife of the order’s newest member. I’m sure she won’t be at Lady Rose’s wedding on the 19th beacuse The Gloucester’s are pretty much low key members of the family and I don’t think she knows Lady Rose Windsor all that well. But The Windors are including Kate in things and she has had a great deal of time to use to royal life. Now the big part is getting use to royal engagements, walkabouts and ceremonial occasions. I’m sure William is giving her the down low on that one. But I just know she will be just fine.
July 14th, 2008 16:21
Rman,
Ever spoken in public ?
How many years did it take Diana to make her first speech ?
I know KM is very bright but I’m not sure how confident she’ll be when the World is watching her speak.
She’ll need time and if PW is to take lots of work load off HM then either he’ll not have too much
time for KM or KM will be thrown in the deep end without the coaching from PW.
In any case PW will also need to get used to public speaking either off the cuff or learnt from prepared speeches as he’s not as good as PH in this respect.
What a prospect for both of them and the work load is enormous and that is why I think the big party is quite a way off.
There is so much to do with not too much time for love and marriage as time and circumstances seem to be loaded against them.
How much easier it would have been if PW had started on all this pomp and circumstance a few years ago instead of playing soldiers, sailors and airmen.
There would be no articles such as the one in ‘The Independent’ and PW’s regard in the public eye may have been higher.
I think CH ” suits ” have a lot to answer for and change was definitely needed there.
July 14th, 2008 16:31
I feel bad for William. Public speaking sucks.
July 14th, 2008 18:34
I remember delivering the eulogy once for my great Aunt Maud’s funeral but other then that, can’t say I’ve been much of a public speaker! It really does take nerves, if not buns of steel, and my greatest sympathies for Princes Wills and Harry and their respective spouses when the time comes and they are forced to speak in public. Egads! Oh my, all I can say is, now THAT’s when a gin and Dubonnet is quite handy!
July 14th, 2008 18:55
Kate Middleton did very well in school and in university, Diana didn’t-she was very poor to failure in school, didn’t even go to ‘college’. During Kate Middleton’s stay in Marlborough and Saint Andrew, there are verbal and written examinations. I think people know what I mean. You can’t compare these two.
July 14th, 2008 18:57
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Kate Middleton has a better speach then Prince William, she seems to not suffer from stage fright. She has handled the paparazzi very well – being a private citizen, with no bodyguards, and is actually out of the limelight purposely.
July 14th, 2008 18:57
*Speech
July 14th, 2008 19:00
PW had to be persuaded to finish at Saint Andrews and changed subjects. She will compliment him very well, both will help each other in their deficiencies – its a feeling that I have. They will do fine if they get married. And she doesn’t seem to be the type of person that will upstage him, she will help him with his disadvantages as he will help her with hers. They are doing things the right way with no rush.
July 14th, 2008 19:18
Actually I’m very good at public speaking but it will take some practice for her. But she may not make a public speech for awhile. Harry has done it but William has yet to do so. I think people are very interested in hearing Kate’s voice than worried about if she’s good at public speaking. That’s what the public is waiting on, her voice.
July 14th, 2008 19:28
Yes she seem to be very natural Me, but I know she is happy to know that she won’t have to read the speech at The State Opening of Parliament, that will William’s job. The Queen is such a pro at that. I watch that event every year and can just imagine them there.
July 14th, 2008 22:43
I have a question: why are they putting more pressure on William than on Charles? Don’t people understand that Charles should, respectfully, get the throne first? He has seen more than William has, and then William could learn by his example. It would be easier on both of them, wouldn’t it?
July 14th, 2008 23:37
APRYL – I totally agree with you. Charles should become King when, sadly, the Queen dies. That’s the proper order of succession. I’m tired of people always bashing Charles – he has done well as Prince of Wales, especially with his wonderful charity foundations including the Prince’s Trust. I think he’ll be a fine King (and people need to lighten up on Camilla too!). William is better off in the long run having some kind of life until he becomes King – I think it would be great for him to become King when he’s in his 40’s – not in his 20’s like Queen Elizabeth. She no longer had time to focus on her family and her children first and foremost.
July 14th, 2008 23:37
Well Apryl, Charles will be king first but they are preparing William for that role and preparing him to support his father and Monarchy. Charles will be looking at a shorter reign because he will start out late. The future is on both William & Harry and I have to say that they are handling it wonderfully.
July 15th, 2008 01:48
Hello,
With a Royal wedding happening at Kensington Palace this month the Zara and Mike seem to have vanished from the headlines.
As Zara wasn’t going to the Olimpics it seemed for a short while that they would be next on the list even complicating possible PW/KM dates.
Now all is quiet and they don’t seem to be around quite so much.
Has that been put on hold or is it just the quiet before the storm ?
July 15th, 2008 05:54
What kind of storm are you thinking about
July 15th, 2008 08:39
Perhaps Zara and Mike are laying low considering his pleading guilty to drunk driving?
July 15th, 2008 08:50
He drove whilst drunk? When did that happen? I’ve been drunk, and I’ve even driven a car a few times, but never been both at the same time — there is no excuse for that! Zara should dump him while she still has time to look for another beau.
July 15th, 2008 09:30
Have you seen the latest post in willskateupdate.blogspot.com ?
It’s the first part of a Kate’s profile and there are two new pics (at least for me): one when she was 6 yrs dressed in school uniform from DM and other when she was newborn in her mother’s arms, which I thought very nice b/c it’s like any picture of common people not an official like the rich families albuns- it seems they had a very simple life.
July 15th, 2008 09:34
alsgal, there was an article in the DM about that. The night before getting caught drunk driving, Zara hit her head on the bar, they left the pub – party at about 4 a.m., Mike got the car around 6 a.m. two hours later and obviously got busted.
July 15th, 2008 09:36
But no one bashes them, there perfect. Pics of Zara bashing her head on the bar – head on falling to the floor after way too many is not worth bashing her. Kate Middleton leaving a club with a big nice smile is worth bashing.
July 15th, 2008 10:34
Me, I so agree about the disgraceful double standard regarding Kate.
A pleasant, loyal, calm Royal GF gets ripped to shreads whilst one young Royal female is always being “let off the hook.” Kate is dissected for being “too thin, too glossy, too made up” whilst someone like Zara or Beatrice is given a pass for dressing like a tart or being overweight — it’s simply unfair IMO.
I am all about being fair, of giving others the benefit of the doubt, but drunk driving is illegal, whilst smiling pleasantly at the paps is not.
July 15th, 2008 11:32
I think we are on the same line.
July 15th, 2008 11:53
Besides be royal and illegal, she’s shouldn’t get drunk b/c she is an athlete and athletes follow a ruled life, or should do. At least Kate isn’t responsible to represent England in sports competitions like Olympics. And Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie are Royals by birth and they should to set a good example before Kate.
July 15th, 2008 12:39
It was Mike that pleaded guilty to drunk driving, not Zara. I believe it was last week when he went to court and pleaded quilty. It was in the DM. But I can’ t remember if Zara was with him in the car as well. I think she had alot to drink, but was not driving. Maybe someone here can recall details of the incident better than I. What ever the reasons still no excuse to drink and drive. I am from U.S. and not famliar with what type of punishment one get for pleading guilty to drunk driving. Depending on blood alcohol level, a person usually does some type of community service, etc. Depends on the state they live in here in US.
July 15th, 2008 12:49
I also think Mike and some of his teamates are being investigated about some inappropriate behavior towards a woman in another country where they were having a match. Don’t remember all the details, think it was Telegraph I read it in. Maybe its old news.
July 15th, 2008 14:10
Sorry. Zara had been the best person for Kate in Royal’s circle since the beginning her relationship with Wills. Is dishonest to attack her if she didn’t do that. But I keep my point of view about Queen’s granddaughters and Kate.
Anyway, Mike is an athlete too. It’s interesting what you said about the “behaviour towards a woman in another country” Graice. Zara former boyfriend seemed to be a problem, as their relationship was, and I’ve read once she fight with a friend in club b/c of Richard, maybe Mike isn’t much better…
July 15th, 2008 14:44
We also have to remember that the royals are like everyone else-they are not superheroes or robots or aliens. :p
Besides, we shouldn’t believe everything we read, or see on tv.
July 15th, 2008 14:48
The case in New Zealand with Mike’s Rugby team, where Mike was NOT involved, but 3-4 of his team mates YES. The police say that yes there is proof that 3-4 guys had sex (orgy) with 1 girl from New Zealand, 18 years old, she went to the cops saying that these guys raped her, the guys said she went to the room and offered herself – the case is still open.
July 15th, 2008 14:51
And in reference to the UK case of Mike Tindal: Mike was caught drunk/driving at 6 a.m., he had arrived 4 a.m. according to case / Article DM 2 hours before 4 a.m. at the house he shares with Zara, he was alone at the moment the cops busted him, Zara was at home probably sleeping from too much drinking, there are pics of both that night before the 6 a.m. drunk/driving bust where Zara hits her head on the bar and falls to the floor, they where having lots of fun, left the joint at 4.am.
2 hours later Mike leaves their shared home at 6 a.m. cops stop him alcohol-meter, open your mouth, busted.
July 15th, 2008 15:26
Me,
The Times last saturady reported the findings of a Judge who investigated the incident on behalf of the RFU.
His finding differed slightly with your comment but it’s basically true. Five members were interviewed with one remaining anonymous because his room was adjacent to the incident but who was unable to add anything to the investigation.
The lady involved declined to make a statement to the police and her solicitors were admonished for the way the case was initially handled and for involving the press at an early stage.
July 15th, 2008 15:34
OMG Ked, not even 3-4 guys but 5…
Whatever it was rape or freely offered,these guys don’t even think of…how gross
July 15th, 2008 16:26
Erm, this is a family forum, isn’t it ya’ll?
July 15th, 2008 16:34
Hello,
Times on Line have an eight page review of Mr Justice Blackett’s statement.
July 15th, 2008 16:46
Yes it is, pardon me. No gorry details will be posted.
July 15th, 2008 16:47
Thanks Ked
July 15th, 2008 16:54
dizzy13, consensus in my office, 10/10 say no gorry details, but “general” terminology should be discussed – its good for minor age to know what happens in the world from the front door outside. i.e. whisky bar, NZ case (prostitution or ?), abuse of alcohol, drugs, etc. its part of education.
July 15th, 2008 17:06
Thanks, Me and just so I make sure I understand it plain and simple you mean general terminlogy is OK but no details (ie the naming of people, body parts or devices) ?
Is it OK to report that I heard from a friend in NZ it was not a “complete” lady in question but rather someone who had had some surgical “help” along the way to become a lady? Not wanting to offend by saying too much here, my apologies if this is too graphic.
July 15th, 2008 17:19
I was under the impression that some of the players were suspended-maybe one/two games, but that their were still two individuals that needed further questioning and one was Mike. Correct me if I am wrong.
July 15th, 2008 17:24
To add, the reason given above and also Zara not going to Olympics, might have put a damper on wedding plans if any, for them. I know that she and Peter are private citizens, but they are still the grandchildren of a queen and I would think the queen must not be happy with all this bad PR that has been going on lately.
July 15th, 2008 17:36
Hello,
I have read the full transcript of the Judge’s report to the RFU and MT’s name is neither mentioned or alluded to.
I think this should be made absolutely clear and in addition it should be noted that although he pleaded guilty, his case for DUI has been referred for medical reports.
This probably may be in connection to the extreme liver damage he received playing rugby which may affect his body’s capacity to absord alcohol thus marking up his readings.
July 15th, 2008 18:00
That is certainly an interesting angle, Ked, one that, given my limited medical knowledge wouldn’t have even occurred to me.
Anyone here have a medical background? Would this kind of liver damage lead to a markup in the readings or is this a tricky legal tactic?
July 15th, 2008 18:24
Kate should read “The Old Man and the Sea.”
Just because it’s the most awesome book ever.
July 15th, 2008 18:43
Ked, thanks for clearing that up.
July 15th, 2008 18:44
Libertine’s Destiny was my favorite, Apryl, but to each his own.
Does Kate like to fish? I know she likes to go stalking with old men (Charles):) but have we seen any pictures of her fishing, I wonder?
July 15th, 2008 18:47
Has anyone heard of how the progress is going on Harewood Park Estate in Ross on Wye? I wonder if this will indeed be William’s?
July 15th, 2008 19:09
I haven’t seen any, dizzy. I’ve never gone fishing myself, and I’m the same age as William and Kate.
July 15th, 2008 19:12
Although the Duchy claim this is to be a “rental property” wink, wink one wonders how many people are in the market for a mansion in the middle of nowhere these days … what with the artist’s studio being built/renovated on property, and given Kate’s known artisitic inclinations, I am going to hazard a guess and say this place has “William and Catherine” written all over it.
Interesting to note it is to be finished in March, 2010, which coincides nicely with the 2009 Royal nuptials timeline
Leaving about a year to put the finishing touches on a place it would seem …
July 15th, 2008 19:16
If it was haunted, that would be so cool.
July 15th, 2008 19:38
OMG! It would be! I can only imagine a “Haunted Halloween at Harewood” and I believe Kate and William, obviously being fans of that quintessential British classic, a costume party, would most definitely go “all out! for such an occasion!”
July 15th, 2008 19:40
or they could hire the “Ghost Hunters” team to investigate…I dunno if you’ve ever watched that show have you?
July 15th, 2008 20:13
Thanks for the info Ked.
Girls, now I feel like reading or watching a ghostly movie.
July 15th, 2008 20:26
lol you could watch The Others or The Sixth Sense.
July 15th, 2008 20:58
No, watch The Reaping. It’s a 2007 horror movie. That really put me on the edge of my seat.
July 15th, 2008 22:32
You guys don’t want me to sleep. I’ll skip it for today and watch one of the above on saturday, just to wake up sunday reading Katie Nicholl.
July 15th, 2008 23:08
The Grudge was freaky. I was like, “Omgah, no!”
I haven’t seen The Reaping.
July 15th, 2008 23:33
Apryl, The Reaping is a horror movie based on the ten Plagues of Egypt that is in the Bilble and it stars Hilary Swank. We all know that the Bible is the one thing that frightens everyone not to mention Revelations. But this movie will have you on the edge of your seat and it will get you to thinking about our world’s events. Mainly because the Bible’s Prophecies is so evident in our current world issues. So I highly recommend this movie.
July 16th, 2008 01:25
thank you for telling me about it.
sounds good to me.
July 16th, 2008 05:09
i think catherine middleton is a role model to fashion world. like victoria beckham and the late princess diana.
July 16th, 2008 06:22
Like Victoria Beckham? Why?
July 16th, 2008 12:09
Bluefire, I don’t know if I would consider Posh in that same league. Although all of Hollywood have copied her bob. IMO, I think there are different types of catagories for fashionistas. Posh would be in the more trendy catagory, whereas Diana was more classic, timeless, like Jackie Kennedy. I think Kate has great fashion instincts and with time and more money to spend on clothes she could be in that catagory. I think Princess Mary of Denmark dresses fantastic and modern. I hope Kate will dress more like her than Camilla.
July 16th, 2008 12:56
“I hope Kate will dress more like her than Camilla.” Certainly.
I think Kate, with Royal title and more money, will have a different wardrobe from all other princess, b/c she cleary prefer classic as Jackie Kennedy, follow more the Britain style than Diana and don’t need to worry about her body as the RF’s women. She is great in taillieur (I don’t know how to spell it) like that she used in Garter Ceremony, don’t need to hide body defects in coats or large dresses as most of princess do. I also think she already does it, as she can, and is doing very with no vulgarity even in that coral dress in the Baxing Ball last June.
She won’t be new in fashion only if she not want to be.
“Princess Mary of Denmark dresses fantastic and modern” Kate is very compared to her in physical and style.
But Victoria Beckham? as Amy Winehouse says: NOOO,NOOO,NOOO!
July 16th, 2008 13:05
clearly, not “cleary”
wore, not “used”
From Hollywood she could inspired in Audrey Hepburn. It would be perfect with her type.
July 16th, 2008 13:07
And I insist: more original than Carla Bruni.
July 16th, 2008 13:17
Kate will probably have her own classic yet unique style, something she will no doubt achieve what with unlimited access to the world’s greatest designers, of course aided by having all the cash and status marriage to William will bring.
As much as I found her pink Boodles outfit flattering and pleasing to the eye, I would think that much navel would not be considered appropriate once she attains HRH status but that is JMO — I am quite the old fuddy duddy!
July 16th, 2008 13:40
At another forum, I found Princess Diana’s black dress, when already married, more discovering, a tad plus too low.
KM doesn’t have enough breast to make the BBB dress a tad or any kind of description innapropriate.
July 16th, 2008 13:57
I doubt she will wore a dress like that after married. Maybe she is wearing a lot of them lately b/c she’s taking advantage of her last single months. The same for the mini-skirts. She wore a lot last year, maybe because she realized if she marries William she will never more use that kind of clothes. Remember as Diana changed her dresses after get divorced.
July 16th, 2008 14:15
“I found Princess Diana’s black dress, when already married, more discovering, a tad plus too low.”
Well thinking, Diana didn’t wait until divorce to wore that kind of dress and some of them were more discovering than Kate’s dresses.But no way I think Kate’s dresses are vulgar. It’s wait and see what she will do…
PS: When I wrote “even” I didn’t say the same as “except”, did I? B/c it wasn’t what I meant to do.
July 16th, 2008 14:58
I am totally looking foward to having a new British princess to follow like we followed Diana. I think Kate is going to pleasantly surprise people once she gets comfortable in her role as princess/duchess. The fashion aspect is going to be fun to watch. I bet she has designers lining up already to dress her,lol.
July 16th, 2008 15:10
In “Fit for a Prince”, video from You tube from to year ago, if I’m not wrong,a disigner showed his wedding dress for Kate saying it was for a “modern princess”. I liked the model but I don’t know if it’s suitable for a royal wedding b/c it seems they follow some rules, as all the dresses are more or less similar and had passed for Queen’s approval first.
July 16th, 2008 15:18
Kate doesn’t have any breasts to speak of, at least not anymore with being so thin, so that is why I wrote “navel” meaning her abdominal cavity. Her tummy, her chest, her trunk, whatever you wanna call it, but breasts aren’t there.
What is appropriate for a beautiful young single lady might not be considered appropriate by the courtiers or the elderly members of the Palace …
July 16th, 2008 15:23
Precisely since she doesn’t have any, that dress did not looked good and I think if she would have been already engaged – it is appropriate. But we all have our opinions, thanks for giving yours dizzy13.
July 16th, 2008 15:24
*did look good
July 16th, 2008 15:34
Did you actually see pictures of Kate wearing that dress Dizzy or did you just go by the DM’s discription of it? I ask because I see no neck line dropped till the “naval”. The dress looks perfectly normal to me. I agree that Kate doesn’t have much of a cleavage but even if she did, that dress would,IMO, not have revealed much. She has worn much more daring dresses before. She once wore a short black dress with a very deep neckline to a night out with Wills – her bra was actually showing a little but she still didn’t look cheap. Lucky for her she has the posture etc. to pull this off without looking tacky or trashy.
July 16th, 2008 15:58
You are referring to the picture with Kate standing next to Gwenyth Paltrow at the Syon House party in the first week of of July, correct? If that is the one you are referring to, then that’s the same one. A very pale pink, almost a chiffon of some sort? I did see the pictures and I personally found it — JMO — to be rather a lot of skin for a Royal-to-be, particularly one who is still pardon the phrase, auditioning. Tasteful and stunning, but just a bit of a surprise given Kate’s ultra-conservative look.
Yes, I do know Diana showed quite a bit later on, have even seen pictures, but that was well after she and Charles were no longer an item and she might very well have been keen on showing the world and Mr. Chuck what he was missing. Now Charles likes an “ample woman” that’s for sure, but I think most can agree Diana’s firm cleavage is infinitely preferable to that of the Saggy Baggy Elephant he is currently with.
God rest her soul. I miss her terribly.
July 16th, 2008 16:48
Wait, wait, wait…drezle – BBB dress is what you are referring to first, now you are talking about a whole different thing including GP at another house party.
July 16th, 2008 16:48
*dizzy13
July 16th, 2008 17:00
The dress Kate wore to the boxing event was a criss cross design in the front,NOT cut to the navel. The press just has to make something out of nothing because the truth is too boring. It was perfectly fine.The back was low but in no way would it be considered daring or risque.
July 16th, 2008 18:11
Boujis/Boodles — heavens, at my age one mixes things up quite often, which is not helped by the gin one bit! The Boodles dress was indeed not cut to the navel, as I remember it was more of a salmon or darker, let’s say “hot” pink.
The Boujis dress was the very light pink one and was rather low cut but nevertheless, Kate pulled it off with style and aplomb.
It would seem she is favoring pink quite a bit in the evenings, a very nice shade for summer.
July 16th, 2008 19:51
dizzy13 the other pink dress never made it to Bouji, it was on a Charity event at a Hotel for TvS brother (who is dead). PW/KM went home, but others did go to Bouji later on.
July 17th, 2008 03:49
I thought you were talking about the long pink Boodles Boxing Ball gown dizzy not the short pale pink dress. I’m confused now.
July 17th, 2008 05:46
Trixie, me too. First I though it was the BBB dress then dizzy mentioned Gweneth…
July 17th, 2008 08:06
-No way the cut of her dress was close to her navel, just a bit down from her breasts or what you want to call it. Well it was to sell newspaper, you know…
-Kate is thin by genetics (look at her family) and if she had bigger breasts she would be an aberration, or a brunette Barbie version to be less exaggerated, b/c it would be in disharmony with the rest of her body.
-I also think her “lack of breasts” – and her posture obviously – make Kate enable to wear that kind of dress with class, without look a b****. Look at Holly Branson at the same party with a less cut dress: her breasts are jumping out, before look to her you looked to that and it seems she love to dress herself that way. Of course I’m not supposing she is a b****, before someone think or say it, but I can’t assert there isn’t a bit of vulgarity in that.
- Kate next to Gwenyth Paltrow? Where I can see this?
Finally, the dress has a normal cut and was perfect in Kate. The question about not wear another like that after married was b/c of the press and RF’s false moralism, PRs giving their usual adivices… But remembering some Diana’s dresses when still married, I don’t think that more. Besides, the Queen has accepted – and enjoyed – a little more modernity lately.
July 17th, 2008 08:20
I absolutely agree, Carla, although I thought the Middletons were thin not because of genetics but rather due to smoking, as Mum, Kate (ciggies in handbag whilst clubbing pic in DMail), Pippa, and even James have all been seen in photos enjoying a puff? Mr. Michael Middleton looks a bit fuller figured, although deeply handsome
although I don’t believe he is believed to be a smoker?
July 17th, 2008 08:29
Never caught with a cig in hand or at mouth actually puffing…
July 17th, 2008 08:46
Who, Kate? her brother who posts as Buffalo at another site posted several casual piccies via private email of the fam.
Who knows, could all be speculamation …
July 18th, 2008 08:41
All the family smoke? Are you sure? I only know about Carole. If Kate really smoke, and Wills as some says, I think with all that paparazzi around them and the mobile phone pics in clubs we would have already saw it. It ins’t something you can hide for much long.
Michael is almost 60 yrs as Charles. I think he is great for his age, as Carole, not fuller.
July 18th, 2008 09:23
Well, Kate was photographed with cigarettes in her handbag last summer when she went out clubbing. I can’t remember the date but I know that she was wearing that black and white print dress (similar to a cow print). I remember thinking that although she did look happy at the time, she was very slim almost skinny. It is very worrying to hear that she believes that she is overeating and must exercise more. I feel that it could be good of her to put on a little more weight, just to give her some curves back.
It has been said that William tried smoking once and hated it but I cannot remember if that is a direct quote or just speculation.
July 18th, 2008 10:11
I saw the picture and I’m not sure it was a pack of cigarettes (but I’m not an expert in it too) and if it was, what proof it was hers? I said about Wills b/c in the same article I read a comment supposin it, but what I’ve heard is the same that you posted in the end of your comment.
About she believes is overeating, I know it seems that I’m trying to accuse the press for everything, but again I think it’s gossip to make us guess if she is going to be anorexic or bulimic as Diana was. By the way, I also think many what they say about Kate are only new versions from some of Diana’s stories. Ex: backing to the question from another post, about Kate beeing “desperate” to see Wills, I remembered “desperate” was the term Diana used in interviews about her unhapiness with the end of her marriage and what made her became bulimic. She said: “I loved my husband, desperatly”and “I was desperate to make it (marry) work” I don’t know if in English it was exactly what she said, but I’m sure she used “desperate” more than once .
Isn’t interinsting how Kate’s life repeat Diana so many times? I don’t think this “coincidence” is the real truth.
July 18th, 2008 10:29
To complete: Diana had also said she started to worry about her weight b/c Charles said before their marriage she was little overeating.
The more interesting is that DM posted that article about the cigarettes and someone commented to be more worried because she was thinner and thinner, in following day DM put an article suggesting if Kate wasn’t losting weight b/c she lost Wills. Don’t get surprise if you read something saying she believes is overeating b/c of some skinny love’s rival, a new woman who had becoming Wills’ platonic passion as Isabella was and is making Kate jelous and envy, blah, blah, blah… It’s just they find someone fit for it.
July 18th, 2008 13:55
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-455703/Has-losing-Wills-driven-Kate-smoking.html
July 18th, 2008 15:17
OK, but I said and I still don’t know if it’s a pack of cigarettes. That time I looked several times and didn’t draw a conclusion. Is it? Maybe it’s from a known mark in UK and that’s why I hadn’t recognized. It seems you really want to prove it and I don’t want to be misunderstand. I’m just asking, not deffending her with all my forces.
July 18th, 2008 15:18
And doubting a little…
July 18th, 2008 15:50
never seen actually with a cig in her hand or taking a drag…
July 18th, 2008 16:59
Maybe I’m just being silly and over-simplifying, but after reading up on Mette-Merit of Norway, smoking/drugs/drink don’t seem to matter so much in a pre-Princess these days. Wouldn’t most people say she’s doing a great job for the Norwegians as their Crown Princess? I would. So, whatever she did in her single past doesn’t really seem to have made a difference — the gal is performing now.
I’m gonna have faith in Kate that she can stand up and be counted when the time comes.
July 18th, 2008 17:28
She could have been holding a pack of cigarettes for a friend who didn’t have a purse with them. I am with Me, I have never seen a pic of her smoking. She seems too health conscious and fit to be a smoker. Most smokers cant do alot of cardio without becoming out of breath easily, but I am just guessing.
July 18th, 2008 17:45
Me too guessing, but a fact is a fact, in 5 years you’re telling me a paparrazi hasn’t been able to catch her actually taking a drag of cig.
July 18th, 2008 18:33
That is an interesting point, Me — and Maddie you make a really logical point, as usual
… five years she has been under the microscope and yet not a single picture of her puffing away!
I hope no one took my previous post as a criticism or that I pass judgement as to whether she has smoked. Alls I trying to say, as a deeply flawed human being myself, that even if Kate has any of these so-callesd vices, well, it’s really not so bad is it?
July 18th, 2008 22:26
Not, not so as drunk driving alsgal, and I miss your posts in the internet forum.
A fact is a fact, having to deal with a bunch of looneys and laugh alone.
July 19th, 2008 00:15
I can’t believe that there is a major discussion going on regarding whether or not Kate smokes and if she had cigarettes in her purse. Is this what we’ve come to – so desperate for news that everyone is obsessing on cigarettes?
Oh Boy – another royal better either get married or have another scandal so we can move on to more interesting conversation.
July 19th, 2008 01:17
lol. We are deseperate aren’t we?
July 19th, 2008 04:24
Hi Guys,
Don’t forget this story is over a year old… Maybe she’s given up smoking in that time?
From a report last September – “She enjoys the occasional cigarette, which surpresses her appetite, but is trying to give up as William hates it,” the friend said.”
Steven.
July 19th, 2008 06:38
True but there have been no reports saying that she has given up. A lot of that circle do smoke and Chelsy was also trying to give up at one point but failed. Just because there has been no update, it does not mean that it is not still applicable. However, things may have changed and we don’t know. What I am trying to say is that we only have one article to go by and that is not recent so is not reliable.
As I said above I was concerned when heard that she felt she was overeating and would put on weight. As a woman I know how she feels but I do hope that she has not succumbed to the pressure of being in the public eye. I know there was an article last year which said she had lost a lot of weight as smoking stops her becoming hungry and she said she hated being a size 6. I do hope she is being sensible.
July 19th, 2008 12:14
B, I agree. Eating sensibly is the only way to go long term, but unfortunately easier said then done. I pack a meaty 267 pounds on my almost five foot frame, so I feel for Kate as it must take a whole lot of denying herself to keep herself that trim. I used smoking as an appetite suppressant until I finally quit, and I still can’t figure why they say people gain the smoker’s 15 — try more like 84 ounds!
Kate has 120% of my admiration for making every effort to stay thin and fashionable, be it from smoking, working out constantly, whatever. And let’s face it, that’s kind of her job right now, ’cause if she weighed as much as I did, there’s no way she’d land a Prince, not even that guy from Swaziland.