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The story about Kate looking for a place to go on holiday is just silly. We all know that plans for the members of the royal family are made many weeks and even months in advance. So any holiday for William in Agust was probably planned before he joined the Navy.
This is just a made-up story for Katie Nicholl to be able to get in another bashing of Kate for not working. Cheap.Being a royal correspondent she knows perfectly well that plans aren’t made this way.
so many good news of catherine middleton & wills especially about they wedding rumours for next year. if they want to go trip at carribean this year it’s mean for a twice they go in there. catherine middleton make me jealous every time when they couple get romantic.
Hello,
I would suggest that plans are already in hand for PW and KM holiday (if they do indeed go) and the safari hut in darkest Kenya will already have been fitted out.
Don’t be surprised if KM makes her own way there and PW arrives direct. It seems their favorite means of reaching their holiday destinations.
Of course we still don’t really know if this is PW’s second visit to Kenya after missing his cousins wedding although the driver of the RS6 Audi sports with Harry in passanger seat seat is still unidentified. That I believe was the day after Peter Phillip’s wedding.
There are pictures of Pippa Middleton (rexfeatures) in the Cartier International Polo 2008, she is pictured with James Murray and Guy Pelly. And looking very pretty, I’d say one of the best dressed and very appropriate for the “hot” sunny occasion.
Ked what do you get about it ? KM has her lady in waiting.
Me, I think that would be great for her to be Kate’s Lady-in-Waiting. Kate will be going through a lot to support William in his training and traveling the Commonwealth, she will need alittle help. Diana’s sister Sarah was also Diana’s Lady-in-Waiting for a short time so I think that would be okay since the two are close. Charles & Camilla haven’t been to Canada and other parts of the Commonwealth yet, I wonder what’s taking them so long?
Pippa is morphing into Kate! Yes, they are siblings so they would favor each other, but why does Pippa wear the same clothes and shoes and hair, glasses etc. as Kate? Could she not mix her style up a bit? Get a tatoo or something? Kidding. Yes, she looked nice but I think she needs to not use the same stylist as Kate. It looks like “if it worked for her, then it will work for me.” Maybe I am cranky this morning. Ked, why Montana? I still think William and Peter had a falling out and William was probably hiding out somewhere. I don’t think there was a wedding in Kenya. No wonder William needs a new PR person.
Driving a car at 140 MPH, unidentified driver, sudden black out, no more news about that case. Did the police ticket PH for it ? what was the verdict, paid, unpaid ?!
and not a single line of June 18 (whatever date) Mr. Craig and whatever her name is married in the beautiful chapel in private property of the Craig Farm, the ceremony was a private one. I don’t mind a picture, but not even a single piece of cheap note in any local tribal news. fisheyyy
*instead of whatever her name is, just googled to the past, please change for Mr. Craig and Miss No Name.
Hello everyone,
Although most of usual crowd, including KM’s favourite Thomas were at the Polo there was no sign of Jessica.
Perhaps she’s already in Kenya preparing the way.
It certainly look as if Pippa is in favour again with James. I think she went out with him for a couple of years when they were up at Edinburgh. I do hope it works out for her.
I am still of the opinion that KM faces opposition from BP and/or CH but have no idea why they should be so antagonistic towards her.
Some of the revelations and PR activities revealed in “Queen Camilla” on channel 4 really scared me. If these people can make it hard for the Queen Mother and Prince Edward then KM and her family could well be fair game.
If however William showed some inclination to protect her then they may desist, but so far his support has been most dilatory and inconsistent.
I think his conduct and attitude to KM over the next few weeks will clearly mark out their futures but I must say , at present I am getting very apprehensive. There has been too much
criticism amd virtual abuse all seemingly emanating from the one source.
Rman,
If I read it correctly the press said that he would me making solo visits on behalf of the Queen.
KM will still be in UK and will neither rate or have a lady in waiting.
Believe me Rman, there is a long way to go and only if PW shows perseverance and fortitude in dealing with her detractors will he keep his lady love.
I think the present situation is very serious for them both especially if PW’s duties keep them apart for months on end. A relationship under such circumstances is hard to maintain and believe me BP/CH know this and have planned accordingly.
So you think they would write that he was going to do these visits with his wife?
I think a similar situation happened with Prince Andrew and Koo Stark. He was called off for military and she just disappeared. Some believe that this was intentional and then Fergie came into the picture. Did you guys know that Andrew is the godfather of Koo Stark’s daughter? I read somewhere that in RF history that it is common for illigitimate children of princes, kings etc. to be their godchildren. Not all their godchildren cause they each have tons. She is a very pretty girl I think about 12yrs, named Tatiana. Anyway, if they don’t except Kate than it will be arranged and then you’ve got another Diana and Charles. I also can’t imagine that if William were to wed a titled woman, that it would make William’s marriage more royal than that of Charles and Camilla. That could create problems for Charles. I don’t think they CH would want a bride with the right bloodline to upstage Camilla. IMO.
Ked, do you still think Jessica is in the picture?
Ked, listen to what I’m saying. When they become engaged and married she will need a lady-in-waiting. She will accompany him on visits. He has all this planned out and will not keep kate on a big hold like that. No engagement have been announced yet so of course they are saying that he will do solo trips. His training in the navy is one thing but he will not abandon her by going on long trips like that Ked. He probably won’t go on a big solo trip in awhile but he will go in the future. That’s what I’m saying. He has her in mind Ked, that’s why things are going so well. He lost her for awhile last year, he learned his lesson and won’t do that again. I know if I had a woman like Kate on my arms, I’ll cut off my arm before I leave her behind. I want her right with me, because that’s where she belongs. He’s not that foolish.
Rman,
I share your optimism about W&K’s future. If there was significant resistance to Ms. Middleton from the Queen or senior royals I don’t think she would even still be around. It wouldn’t be logical for William to spend years with a woman he knows Her Majesty will not permit him to marry. Catherine would also not have attended the royal events she has if there was real disapproval of her. Of course there are some people in the media who will take shots at her for not working but so what. As long as she and William are okay with it then that’s all there is to it.
I agree nikki. People only saying The Queen and royal insiders is against Kate because an announcement has yet to come out but we all know that’s not true and people should stop saying that. They are not heartless people. William may go on a solo trip while engaged to Kate because Charles did the same this after his enagement to Diana but he won’t leave her without an engagement.
Hi Ked….
I know that you always seem to reference how there is one source for the negative press about kate (i.e. BP and CH)…just out of curiosity, is there anything in particular that has lead you to believe that this truly is the case? I’m not saying I disagree with you, because it is a plausible suggestion, but I just wasn’t sure what you are basing your comments on, because it does seem difficult to trace their origin.
Rman,
You know I agree with many of your sentiments, except for he timetable.
There is more to this training and will take place before any engagement or wedding as I believe that has been set down by BP/CH.
I don’t need to repeat my fears but I am certain they exist and PW will need to be strong to ensure KM is accepted but KM is too inexperienced at present to undertake Royal tours.
The past years have been wasted as far as KM is concerned and it would have been so easy for her to have been coached and instructed on protocol and duties for such events as Royal tours. She hasn’t to our knowledge been asked to even assist in PW’s charities in the UK.
For that to have happened PW would have had to officially commit himself to her and for some reason he would not because I believe he had to take a family line.
The effort of Royal tours is enormous and Camilla after several years experience had difficulties on recent tours.
There is no way KM will be allowed to tour with PW at this time, two rookies would be too much for Royal and Foreign Office staff and PW is himself a newcomer with little experience.
Rman, I sympathise and empathise with your views but reality has to be accepted. There are at least one, two or possibly more years
of long separations for PW and KM. Can they stand it ? Will the media and unfriendly individuals prove too much foreven the greatest love?
I don’t know but feel that KM is stronger than PW and may be better equipped to withstand the pressure but she needs support, support that only people like us can give to her.
She has enough detractors anxious to trip her up but they have failed except in one or two
scurrilous and patently made up circumstances.
gracie,
Reference Jessica .
I don’t know but don’t think so because her background is too similar to KM and her acceptability would be just as problematic.
I think PW thinks of her as a dear friend but ex’s of Royal Princes do remain ‘ friends ‘ for years but she is always around as are many of PW’s friends.
She and KM seem friendly but you’ll have seen many Holywood films with similar circumstances so who knows.
I think PW enjoys her company especially in Kenya which after all is her ‘back yard’ and she knows her way around the bush.
But again who knows, but Kenya seems to be a large part of PW private life.
Ked your first posts sound and goes towards plausible scenarios and objective, then you get excited and your typing too.
I think that is why Kate is seen at more royal events as of late. Perhaps this is a form of training for her now. To see how she mingles with other members of the RF and with just people in general. Perhaps that is the real reason she left Jigsaw, was to train and take etiquette classes. Her sister went with Kate, William and Charles to Klosters. I don’t think the family would be meeting Charles if it was not going to happen. So who knows what’s going on behind closed doors. I think that one of many reason’s why we don’t see her much. But you would think that if they are trying to build an image for her as bride for William, the PR people would start releasing photos more often of Kate working at her parents. Even if it is a front to appease the public and build her image.
The only way for Kate to gain the experience she needs is to get in there & do it. That’s why I don’t get the logic of William not being able to marry until he’s finished training to be king. Firstly William has already spent 26 yrs in training. He is not starting from nothing & all of sudden next year he’ll start preparing to be king. He’ll be given additional responsibilities and a more important role next year as part of his preparation. But it makes no sense in the world not to have Kate begin her training as well, that is if he indeed wants to marry her.
I think they see her working at her parents buiness is a private matter and her business. I really tried my best to point out that there is reason why we don’t see her much mainly because she is keeping a low profile that doesn’t mean you won’t see her going out with her friends once in awhile. It would be too crazy if she didn’t. I wonder if Harry is still working on the building projest or has he reunited with Chelsy?
Let me add that I also think that the fact that Pippa is attended the Cartier event when Charles was there, shows that Pippa status has been elevated. In the past it seems Pippa would only attend events with RF present if Kate is with her. I am not saying she sat with Charles, but she was in his presence. IMO.
I believe Kate is getting groomed so to speak. I don’t think CH would say that to the press of course. I hope Harry is with Chelsy so no more drunk pictures leak. Looks to me like Chelsy needs the help more than Kate does.
Nikki, Kate is now getting training, it was very evident after the Garter ceremony when her and harry was standing there waiting for the carriages to go by. She stood at attention beautifully and with her feet close together like Harry. Look at the picture of her standing and you will see. The evidence will show when she attend more events.
Rman,
I’m just frustrated by all the secrecy. Which is without a doubt Prince William’s idea. I understand after seeing what happened to his parents that he wants to have as much privacy as he can. At a certain point though he has to realize he’s a public person & his wife will be also. Getting things out in the open is sometimes the best option.
Rman,
Think back and remember what was said about PH and KM following the Garter ceremony.
The first was that they were laughing at a Royal ceremony and that HM wouldn’t be too keen to invite PH to be a Knight.
An aide said ” that it was not respectful of PH and KM to be laughing at PW dressed in his medieval robes and bonnet”
Do you remember that Rman?
Look please be realistic and accept what appears to be before us.
I am realistic that the press writes a lot of crap Ked. If you choose to believe the eye catching titles and articles they write like gosspel truth, each is entitled to their own POV. I think a milisecond of laughter from the 3 ROYALS (PH, Camilla, Sophie) and 1 UNROYAL Girlfriend (Kate Middleton) – then I will look please and be realistic and accept what appears to be before us.
ked,
If your theory is correct then Prince William will be a very lonely man. I’m not a personal friend of Catherine or anything like that. But if I was her I wouldn’t spend my time trying to gain the approval of anybody, especially when I have not done anything wrong & there are current royals who have done far worse than anything she could ever even think of. To expect her to stick around for the next 2 to 3 years in the same position she’s in now while Prince William moves forward with his life is unrealistic. I don’t happen to agree with your theory about Kate being disapproved of by anybody that matters. But let’s assume that’s true- William can either do what his father did & end up paying a steep price for the rest of his life or stand up for who & what he wants in his life.
Me,
“I am realistic that the press writes a lot of crap”
Understatement of the century.
nikki,
Where do you think the stories start ?
Yes, publish the naughty laughing PH/KM, but looking through rexfeatures, gettyimages, others ohh ohh I see I see expanded pics of 3 royals + 1 unroyal laughing, flash flash 1 milisecond of a foursome.
I am just wondering, if KM has a job at her parents’ business or if she is working at another project where she will be away from the media, so then how come the article mentions that she has a lot of spare time to plan for a holiday?? If the article mentions that she has a lot of spare time to plan for the holiday then it means that she is not working as hard as some people on this forum think she is working.
Diana faced the same attention from the media as KM does now, but she somehow managed to have a job as a kindergarten teacher. So if the Diana was able to manage having a job despite the paparazzi, how come KM can’t do the same thing??
I am not trying to critizice someone I don’t know but from what I read in the articles, it bothers the lack of work ethic of some other people. Don’t know the reasons why other people don’t have a job but I believe that a university graduate who is old enough and is mentally well has no excuses for not getting a real job. No matter what the circumstances are, everything in this life is possible and we can all manage having a job no matter how hard things are. We should manage on having specially if we are public people who want to give a good impression of ourselves.
Sonia, you make the mistake to believe everything you read in the papers. Just because the DM writes Kate is at home looking through vacation catalogues, doesn’t make it true.
Of course neither of us knows what Kate does 24/7 so in the end it’s up to everyone to either believe the worse, i.e. that she’s lazy and only slacking or to believe that she’s working with her parents. We probably will never know for sure and those who believe the worse of Kate, will always blame some sort of PR stunt or media campaign wheneever information surfaces that doesn’t support their view of Kate – like the pics showing her at Party Pieces.
IMO, Kate doesn’t want a regular job and that’s her prerogative because it’s her life and her decision how she choses to spend it. I also find it an insult to alledge that working for her parents wouldn’t be a proper job. Tell that to everyone who’s involved in a family business. I actually have the experience that those people work harder than your average employee because they have a very personal connection to the business…
The stories of Diana, Fergie, Camilla, and now Kate have started by the press games to make them talk or make a lot of money, never ever has BP answered back to any status of girlfriend, engaged or married. Only Diana did what she did.
Perhaps Murdoch has something to do with this conspiracy Ked theory.
Where do the stories come from Ked ? you asked us, please reply.
ked,
They don’t need CH or BP to feed them negative stories about Kate. They are perfectly capable of making it up all on their own. William himself has said in an interview not to believe the stuff they write. But even if they use palace sources it doesn’t mean the Queen or Prince Charles is behind it. There are courtiers who think too highly of themselves and feel like their opinion is worth something. So they become the “royal insider” for that week’s story. Or I’m sure there are plenty of jealous mothers, aunts,& grannies of titled young women who think they are deserving of William not Kate. They would be more than happy to say unflattering things about her to the press.
You’re right nikki. Even if palace aides talk to the press that doesn’t mean they do so on behalf of Charles or the Queen. I’m sure the press pays their royal sources (if they have any). So what will a palace employee do if he can’t get any juicy Will and Kate gossip? Make something up. Something that sells.And what does sell – negative supposedly scandalous stuff of course.
The “royal experts” made royals fools of themselves with their reports this year. The stories about William’s wing ceremony, the Klosters trip and Peter’s wedding were all over the place. Noone reported beforehand that Kate would be at the Garter and Lady Rose’s wedding. Instead the press wrote her and her mom would go to Ascot – which they didn’t. To me it looks like the “royal sources” are not very reliable at all. Their correctness quota seems to be way below 50%. Anybody here could do a better job merely guessing what’s happening.
My royal insiders tell me Kate already left the country to meet William in the Caribbean for a week of holiday before they return to the UK and William resumes his military training with the Blues and Royals.
Therefore she sent Pippa to the Cartier International Polo 2008
Ked, look back at the photos and you will see The Queen, Philip, Andrew and Anne all looking towards the other royals including Kate and they had smiles on their faces and was laughing as well. The media came up with the idea that is wasn’t respectable. It was a fun day and it was fun to see William honored like that. Harry & Kate would never do anything to dis-respect the royal family at an occasion like that. The press came up with that and everybody ran with that story. Sonia, yes the Diana did deal with the press while she was working and the employees at that time will tell you that she was very stressed and cried often. William does not want Kate to go through that and like it or not, that is his woman and if he wants his woman to work in private then so be it. It’s very hard to believe that people are so worried about her job when it’s non of their business. The royal family treats it as a private matter so should the public. It’s funny, now people are understanding what Charles & Diana went through. The press made up stories and invaded their privacy and help make that marriage go down in flames.The media is something else and William & Harry will not try to please them. That is one of the reasons why the royal family ignores the silly reports. Members of the public only buys into it because they simply don’t know what’s going on. When the royal family make appearences, make statements and high royal experts makes a statement then you know what’s true and false.
Pippa was at the Cartier polo? I didn’t know that. I only read in the Telegraph that TvS, Guy Pelly and Holly Branson were there. Looks like my royal insiders may be right after all.Why else would Kate not have gone…
Trixie,
It’s strange that you should say that and I admire your source.
I thought the same, but I think she’s more likely to be on the way to Kenya.
Every August PW’s charity or mission in Kenya has a meeting of the trustees and PW always attends well for the last four years to the best of my knowledge.
You may recall that last year he arrived at the Seychelles from Kenya and returned there with two others (security probably) when KM left for home via Paris.
The year before he and some Army friends went on a Safari and on each occasion during the first week in August he was in Kenya.
It will be of interest if he turns up in Kenya
but being in the Dark Continent we may never know.
KM has been there before about three years ago after University so may well be on her way there.
Good guess ?
Votes for Kenya or Caribbean. Any takers?
ked, I was only joking. My “royal source” is just as much a product of my imagination as Katie Nicholls’.That’s why I put the smilie in the end.
William already spend 2 weeks in Kenya in May. I don’t think he’d go there again but even if he does, we won’t know because we never hear of him in Kenya.
Rman,
Sorry I must take you task on your comment that it was a fun day.
NO WAY.
This is the highest order of Chivalry or Honour in the UK and the highest order the Queen can bestow and very limited by number and earned service to the Country.
No way is it a fun day.
KED – so that means no one is permitted to act human and have a bit of laughter? Give me a break – your posts are really getting over the top. Oh but guess what I heard from my sources and some of the media – Wills is now secretly dating Chelsy and is meeting her in the jungles of the Amazon rainforest so not even Harry can track them down. But Harry doesn’t care because he’s now having a fling with Kate’s sister, Pippa, and Harry & Pippa are going on holiday to Italy. I even hear Harry is so keen on Pippa, that he told a close source, “She may finally be the girl I spend my life with”
Trixi,
I recognised the humour and that’s why I said I admired your source.
It has never been shown that PW was in Kenya in May and there is some talk of his not being there. The following had ben noted on various sights and local papers.
Tall Guy in Baseball Cap seen in Winchester.
Tall Guy on Motor Cycle with two others in Wareham.
Unnamed driver of Black Audi RS6 ports Car.
Motor Cyclist seen driving into Highgrove late in evening of Peter Phillip’s Wedding.
None were definative sightings but that is more than has come out of Kenya despite several investigative journalist nosing about for several weeks.
In addition the announcement made 6 days before the wedding was suspect in itself. To choose a friend over a cousin who had stood by him and comforted him at and after his mother’s funeral.
Sorry the whole matter was very suspect.
jade,
Now that is interesting, where did you get all that from ?
Absolutely flabbergasting at least it will now lend credence to your future posts which we shall watch for with interest. I’m amazed I wouldn’t have believed it had I not read it from your own fingers.
Well done.
What I’m saying Ked is that it was great to to see William honored with the Order of The Garter. If you bought into the press making up a story about Harry, Kate and other royals smiling and laughing as being dis-respectful then I truly feel sorry for you beacuse you feel into that trap. That was a dumb story and very much not true. That day went on very smoothly and all you saw was that man’s woman and brother expressing their proudness of a person who really deserved that honor. People read too much into things and totally started to think that they would act a fool at such a event, come on now and grow up. Harry & Kate would never dis-respect that family’s tradition. My God in the words of Bill Cosby “COME ON PEOPLE”!!!!!
Its not a funeral either, to have gloomy faces.
jade,
Sorry but did you forget to say who KM was with ?
Peace and love people, here is hippie me
Jade that is funny, Ked means well but the media wrote that silly story and people started to believe it. It happens and it’s up to others to point out that dumb stories will come out be if you believe it then that’s sad.
Too bad the Queen,Harry and William had to miss Polo day in Austrailia.
I mean it’s too bad The Queen,William and Harry had to missout all the fun at the Windsor Park polo match.
Maybe it’s a blessing in disguise for Kate. She does need to get used to the negative & false stories the media create to sell their papers. It won’t stop when she’s married. They’ve done the same thing with the late Princess Diana, Sophie Wessex, and Camilla. I know the Duchess of Cornwall did some not very honorable things before her marriage but some of what was printed about her looks was disgusting & beyond the pale. The Queen too has seen how quickly the press can turn on you- she was demonized by them shortly after Diana’s death.
ked, than do you agree with Will’s theory that a falling out happened during Peter stag and William chose not to go?
Here is some news from the Daily Mail.
http://tinyurl.com/5vpne8
Rman,
I’m a little surprised. I would have thought William wouldn’t want to holiday in Mustique seeing as how he’s already spent time in the region on the Iron Duke.
Well we just have to see later this week if this is true but I thought they would go someplace else but maybe they are vacationing there.
Trixie was joking but seems to be Kate flew out of UK and Pippa covered her at the Polo :;)
Oh My God KED – you actually believe that my post about William secretly dating Chelsy and Harry dating Pippa was anything but a total joke??? You’ll believe anything and my point has been proven. I never met someone as gullible as you – how old are you anyway?? This just makes me roar with laughter.
Jade,
I didn’t think you were at liar, thats all but perhaps most of your posts are.
Sorry
Just read about murder of British Doctor in Caribbean.
If KM has flown out days before PW’s set to join her I hope some security is in place for her.
Despite reports there is no evidence that she has any protection.
Hello,
If anyone can confirm that KM is on way to or has arrived in Caribbean please post.
Enquirers this morning are finding that there is no confirmation of DM and Sun reports but this is normal with the secrecy being applied to lots of KM’s movements.
I think it must be the right thig to do. He is in the area, why travel half the way round the world to rekax under the same sun?? He hasn’t been living in luxurious houses, relaxed by the pool, had romantic meals at sunset etc these last five weeks, so the next two will be very different anyway.
Hope they have a nice holiday
And I hope we won’t see a single photo! Unlike Ked I don’t need papparazzi pictures to believe certain stories…
Tomorrow is five weeks since he joined the Iron Duke. Maybe he’ll leave tomorrow, and that’s why Kate has already flown out there.CH doesn’t want us to know exactly when he is travelling. Maybe.
If I was William I would want to go home for a least a week or two, see my family and friends. Then go on holiday with my partner. I would not want to just go somewhere where I had been working for the past 5 weeks. I would prefer a change of scenery.
I never understand why KM and PW do not holiday in the Mediterranean (sorry I’m not sure about the spelling). The climate is always lovely, beaches are lovely and there is a lot of culture etc as well. I suppose it is not as private but there are private sections of beaches and apartments/ villas, I know as I stay in one sometimes.
Anyway, we all knew that they would be going on holiday, although the fact that they chose Mustique contradicts what was said in the previous article:
“They have already been to the Caribbean this year and Wills has been working there.
‘So Kate has been trying to find a location they haven’t been to for a romantic week away.’ ”
I suppose they could not think of a better place in the end but I would not want to go back after spending a holiday there and working there already this year. But that is just me…
Hope they have fun.
If they go back there the only logical explanation is because it is special to them.
He has been on a ship. Working. He hasn’t been holidaying. He hasn’t been with Kate. He hasn’t been on Mustique. So I don’t see why he shouldn’t want to just take a very short flight to start his holiday immideately. And paying for it himself he mighr even want to save some money too.
Family and friends are all on holiday this time of the year so spread all over the place.
Oh are his father, Camilla and his grandparents away then? I was under the impression that they had not yet gone to Balmoral or on holiday. They are all still working hard.
It might be special to them, but I know that I would get bored of the same place after a while. Scotland is special to me but I don’t go all the time. It becomes more special if I have not been for a while. Absense makes the heart grow stronger and all.
I agree with Ked here, something strange is going on at the moment with Kate. It’s as if the knives are out for Kate with the media. We have had her employment questioned in the DM and the express this week. We have had KN write a fairly nasty piece on Kate saying she is sitting around doing nothing but just planning holidays with William. Now we have this headline of Kate meeting up with William for another holiday.
Something else that strikes me as odd also just as these attacks on Kate are starting in the media. We have reports of William working hard in the Navy, and having a direction of life when he starts his next stage to becoming a King.
My feeling is this holiday story has been made up by the press, in response to the Belle Robinson interview. Because Belle didn’t make Kate look good. When she told us Kate left because she her life was dictated to by William, and that they had freebie holidays in Mustique.
Another thought that came into my head is this negative press activity that is happening at the moment seems like Charles’s MO.
What’s Charles’ MO???
But yes, I agree something is going on between Kate Middleton and the media that we possibly do not know about. For a woman who is apparently just about to become engaged there are a lot of negative articles. Previously whenever there have been engagement rumours the media has praised Kate to an almost ridiculous amount; they do not want to have a bad relationship with her if she is to be a royal.
I don’t believe that they have broken up; they are going on holiday after all but there is something going on.
I’ve just thought of something – perhaps a little out there and completely unlikely to happen but HRH Prince William could use this work time as a contemplative period hypothetically speaking to re-evaluate his life and what he wants – thus a good excuse to ditch kate hence the negative media attention on the beautiful, vivacious, sexy Kate.
Or more likely they will stay on the more friends with benefits kind of deal they currently have going on.
But seriously doesn’t she value herself at all? He just a user. (that part is personal opinion and i apologise for hurting or wounding anyones sensibilities or pride).
But again – i pray for the best outcome possible both locally and globally and in my view the best possible outcome sends the most positive message to not only the people involved but the wider community and the best outcome exudes positive values and an understanding about the arduous lives of the little people – thus not rubbing the fact that you are supremely well off in their faces with the innumerable holidays etc etc
Hello,
I think the DM has withdrawn the story of KM leaving for Caribbean.
The story itself was ‘by a DM reporter’ and not allocated to one of their usual reporters.
When the DM do this it is usually because they are initially unsure of its provenance then if true the story is headed with name of correspondent.
No worries folks, whatever it is, the fact is that Wills and Kate are steady. No conspiracy theories and with due respect to everyone, are the same people, including me, who post here and there, different wording but with the same opinions good or bad related to a desperate press who don’t have 90% of the facts.
Why ? because they show up together happy then ever, and there goes away the typing fever, to once again a stray. Its a never ending gossip.
When you say Kate has a lot of bad press and that there are a lot of negative articles out there, you are mainly talking about the Daily Mail and some internet sites that copy articles from DM.And a lot of internet forums of course, but they don’t honestly count.
In royal history that is nothing and won’t raise an eye at CH and BP. I don’t think Kate is worried either.
I always said that William & Kate have a lot of tricks up their sleeves. But where they are vacationing is their business and I know it’s somewhere very private. I think all William want to do now is rest and be with his lady love. I don’t know why they feel like they have to go to far off places to do this but just sitting at home or at a cottage would be enough for me. We all know the royals have plenty of cottages to go to. If this story is true, then I hope they have a good time.
Ked, I just checked the Daily Mail website and the story about Kate flying out to meet Prince William is still there. Here is the link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1039440/Caribbean-reunion-Kate-ends-Williams-Navy-stint.html
mapleleaf,
Thanks. I followed your link and found it, but I still can’t bring it up myself directly.
Rman,
Are you thinking Balmoral ? I was until the reports but Tea Pot Cottage would have been super after all the sun and hectic activity of Carabbean.
dagy,
I mentioned a couple of months ago that some enterprising young reporter might try to trace origin of anti KM reports over the past 12-15 months.
Since then I have counted 27 different stories and 16 had sources similar to ; “aide said ” “source close to CH says” “BP sources have informed” and similar such comments. So over an approx. two month period 60% of negative comments that I have found about KM on Internet sites, newspapers and blogs have originated from what I call Royal sources.
At the same time there were 9 stories that were neutral or favoured KM but not one had any sort of what I call Royal connection.
To me this is a unbalanced statistic especially the fact that there wasn’t one neutral or favourable comment from CH,BP or other similar source.
Hope you what I am trying to say.
So as I said,the “bad press” is mainly on the internet or from DM.I think it’s easy for people who spend a lot of time on the internet to get the wrong impression of what “people” think and know. Most of the people that post on royal forums and write blogs or comment after online news articles aren’t even British.
Actually, Kate and Wills are now in Las Vegas and will be secretly married this Saturday evening at the Elvis Presley Hound Dog Chapel.
The bride and groom then plan to honeymoon in a private cottage in Boise, Idaho.
dagy you are right. I often have the impression that there is a rather small number of very critical people when it comes to Will and Kate who spread their opinion on several forums and also the comment sections. I would assume that a large part of about 80-90% of the Brits do not care one bit about tabloid fodder conerning Will and Kate and that those who do care and read it are very well capable to take it all with a bucket of salt. How many Brits even read the DM online version? And how many of those believe what they read and bother to comment? Certainly not even every royal watcher posts at internet forums or tabloid comment sections.
Only a very small guillable number would believe everything they read and even add their own conspiracy theories to it. I doubt this small minority represents the British public at large. How many comments are there in general to the articles: 50-100 at MOST. Since when do 100 people (not even Brits) represent a nation of 60 million???
Jade you must have the same royal sources as me. You forgot to mention though that William will then abdicate, move to Africa and that Harry will take over the throne..
I have heard that this has made Carole Middleton very angry. As we know for sure she has been working all her life to have her daughter become Queen. I have heard that she is now desperate to have Harry marry Pippa. And as well as we know Mrs Middleton we know she won’t stop before she has got it her way. That’s the reason Pippa was at the Cartier Polo event with Prince Charles. But as you could clearly see: he hates Pippa because he wasn’t photographed with her at all. My sources tell me that Charles really wants Chelsey to become Queen because she is of course, as we all know,totally without faults. And she behaves so naturally, specially when drunk, something both Prince Charles and The Queen finds very endearing according to my sources. She is so much herself all the time, I’ve been told.
In my experience, (none of my friends know that I follow the royal family so they are not affected by me and what I know), people do like Kate and William. They do not like the fact that Kate does not work but it does not prevent them from wishing her the best. Actually, a better way of saying it would be, “they would prefer it if Kate worked”; meaning it would be better, but oh well, she doesn’t, no big deal.
People think that Harry is still a playboy prince despite him growing him and doing well with his charities. I think the boys gained a reputation at a young age which has stuck with them.
Hello,
I see we have Jade telling her lies again or is it her talking whilst standing up or squatting but she ‘s never been able to distinguish between truth or lies has she ?
How’s this for a rumour; KM seen at Goodwood races ?
True or false ?
dagy,
What on earth are you talking about ? I’ve never read anything like that from you before and it seems very odd.
What difference does it make if I am from the U.S. and post an opinion on this blog? America has a great love for the RF. Usually, William and Harry are in either People or US magazines every week. Give me a break, dagy. Our nation started because of England!
I agree ked, Dagy sarcasm and wide off the mark speculation is not known to come from you
If you want to see more posts like my last one, you can go to the Royal Forum. It is filled with posts like that. Just that they are dead serious. Believe it or not.
By writing my last post I really found out how easy it is to come up with things, type them and then subit comment and nobody can get to me because I don’t tell anybody who I am. The scary thing is that quite a few people spend time and energy doing this every single day.
In my country we say about somebody that lies a lot that “she lies until she believes it herself”. I’m pretty sure that is what some posters do. Only quite a few here, but on some others forum: wow.
BTW. I did not believe my own lies in my last post:) You did not eitehr, did you?
Be careful dagy please. I am a member of that forum and I have never noticed somebody come up with a complete lie like that. They might say “well perhaps something like this could have happened….” or “I think….” but that is all opinions. There is no lying like that and there is no believing of anything until there is proof.
Now can we please stop this stupid business of telling a lie just to see someone’s reaction? It is childish behaviour and is not fair on other posters. Some people on here or other forums do have sources from newspapers etc and may know things that other people do not.
Ked,
I think Jade and Dagy were making a point that you might have missed.
I read the outrageous things Jade was saying, and I’m pretty sure she was trying to be facetious and sarcastic when she made all those wild statements about William and Harry and Chelsy.
It’s just that you didn’t realise she was joking and you took it seriously. Dagy was doing the same thing, he was being facetious to make a point, which is: People make stuff up about William, Harry, Kate, Chelsy, et al all the time. The journalists make stuff up, and the public makes stuff up. The “sources” that some tabloid/newspaper journalists quote are sometimes nothing more than their co-worker who is sitting in the next cublicle over from theirs.
The stories that some people who post on royal forums and blogs are nothing more than figments of their imagination. We have to sort through th e fluff and the imaginary stories by taking everything implausible with a serious ‘bucket of salt’ as Trixie said, and wait and see with the more plausible stuff.
There are many positive things I read about William and Kate that I would love to believe, but I always tell myself to wait and see.
Just because it sounds good doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s the same with negative things. And the big problem is with Wills and Kate, lately the media has printed more negative stuff. I think it’s because they think it’s what the public wants to read, not because it’s true. I think that is what Jade and Dagy are both saying.
Personally, I don’t believe the royal courtiers or the ‘men in grey’ have anything against Kate Middleton at all. As a matter of fact, I think the idea that there is a conspiracy against Kate is a tempest in a tea cup.
I actually think Wills and Kate’s relationship is fine and progressing nicely according to their own personal timetables, and I think the naysayers are just saying negative things in the media and on certain forums because they are hoping their negative ideas will come true, not because they really know what they’re talking about.
And my ‘royal source’ is my own imagination! 
Reporters are not allowed to write an article in the UK unless there is a reason to write it or some form of evidence. It is illegal to say that x, y and z is true if it is not. Not everything that is negative can be written by the same few people who just want to make Kate look bad and don’t know what they are talking about.
I can turn around and say that everything positive is written by the same few people who just want to make Kate look good and don’t know what they are talking about.
Everyone has their own opinion and there are lots of people out there who can form an opinion and write about it. Neither of us can prove nor disprove that a majority are for or against Kate being Queen unless we personally go out and create a survey ourselves and I’m not that desperate.
Ummm perhaps you should or not have thoroughly read in the PCC – UK what is NOT allowed.
While there is no implying of a personas image with sex, drugs and that type of likes a journalist may write whatever, saying a friend source, with the risk of a PCC complaint. The RF nor the Middletons seem to acknowledge or deny any given report true or false.
B, A few articles of journalists, reporters, you name it writing crap, proven false, no pcc complaint from the RF/Midds, no one jailed, nada.
Just recently
Ascot
Testino
Endless list of lies from the press, If you want me to keep on, but most of the posters here enter this site and all the other royal sites, we all know
I think the journalists are safe as long as they do not present something as solid fact but as speculation or hear-say. As long as they write a “friend” or a “royal insider” said this and that, one wouldn’t have a case, IMO.
Any plaintiff would have to proove that the article was false but how can one proove that an anonimous source did not say a certain thing or that said source does not exist? The press would not be obliged to reveil their sources because of the freedom of the press hence any law suit against such gossip stories would be futile. Otherwise I’m sure there would be far more law suits against gossip papers than there actually are.
Accuracy
i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.
ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and – where appropriate – an apology published.
iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.
iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published.
http://www.pcc.org.uk/cop/practice.html
This implies that there must always be something behind a story not just a comment (unless it is a columist or something which is clearly just the reporters opinion). IMO this says that there must be at least speculation that there is something going on for a reporter to write something. They are not allowed to just make something up.
And that was from the PCC.
There is an international law for protection of the “source” of information to the press, which was signed many a long years ago by all the democratic countries and whom belong to the UN. Since then the press hasn’t been honest with their own work fabricating sources or using a (example) 5% of truth mixed with a 95% of sensationalism.
B, then give me a valid explanation on Testino and a friendly source said.
That’s my point, that 5% still exists, which means that in every article at least 5% has to be true according to yourself. I think we have just misunderstood each other, I know a lot of sensationalism but there must be an element of truth.
Excuse me, point III says it all
That she probably wanted an internship somewhere and was unable to get one. I’m not saying that everything written in one story is true, there just has to be a background or a basis that is true.
Then there must be a basis of some articles related to Diana looked for death – literally as written by some to many journalists.
\”The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.\”
Yes newspapers are biased everyone knows that, and it has to make it obvious between a comment by the reporter, a fact and speculation without evidence.
But most articles do not make it clear when something is just speculation. I am saying that they have to, which is what point 3 says. Everyone else was saying that they go right ahead and do it anyway.
In the case of Diana, there was such as the strange car, the fact that she was not taken to the closest hospital etc etc. That is one side.
The other is that it was just an accident as the driver was going too fast.
I can’t reply to any more comments I’m afraid, the website is playing up for me (taking ages to load).
B, if with KM, if you shall read your first post related, and said there must be truth to ALL…and I knew that throwing the bate of Diana would make you backout with a soup of words, just say so. No hard feelings, nothing bad at all. Many bad speculation was thrown to Diana during her last year of life that sadden me and many others, some of it as you said with facts.
I think you misunderstood B, point iii) of the PCC code of conduct says the press must distiguish between fact and conjecture. Hence they can write someting other but fact in a piece. They are only forbidden to present such conjecture as fact. That’s what I was trying to say earlier. You can make up a story 100% (well you should at least get the names right
) as long as you do not present it as fact.
So if they write “William will marry Kate next year.” and that turns out not to be true, the paper will be at fault. If they write: “A friend of William told us he intents to marry Kate next year.” or “It is likely that William will marry Kate next year” that is not a “forbidden” story because it is clearly conjecture.
Furthermore the burden of proof would be with the plaintiff (if I’m not mistaken) so even if the press writes “wrong” facts you would still have to proof that they are wrong. So to counter any report about your personal life, you would have to reveil private information about your feelings your whereabouts etc. So William would, e.g. have to explain that he did not intent to marry Kate and maybe why etc.
No public persona would want to that, I guess, so they rather ignore any such stories than to enter lengthy law suits that would put their private lives to public debate – court hearings are public, i.e. even more of a media spectacle. So unless the press writes something truely outragous, all the effort is just not worth it.
Trixie you have such good wording, you make it “easier” to explain.
I forgot the conlusion to my rant:
The press of course knows that most celebrities and certainly the Royals do not react to gossip articles for the above mentioned reasons. Hence they can get away with writing all sorts of stories. Consequently one cannot believe anything really unless it comes from a spokesperson or is validied by pictures – though pictures can of course be deceiving also.
Everyone is dead on! It is the same people who go from forum to forum posting negative/nasty things about W&K just using different names. There are even some who’ve come here. And yeah 9 times out 10 the person isn’t actually British! When I first started posting comments a few months ago on the royal sites I thought these people were just uninformed or had gotten the wrong information. Boy was I wrong! They don’t want the facts or a rational explanation for what’s going on. They want to believe the worst, they want their illogical conspiracy theories about Kate to be true. They’ve convinced themselves that comments on the DM or the Sun website are how the majority of people in England feel about W&K. It’s either sad or just plain insane. Can’t decide which
I’ve changed computer to answer this, so I have to be quick my partner will need to be back soon.
I am not backing of at all, I stand by what I say that there must always be something behind a story.The example of KM and PW getting married is that she has turned up to lots of events = fact, she may get married = opinion, but there is still something to explain the opinion. Which is what I meant above, there is a reason to write the article.
E.g. they can’t just say that Kate is pregnant, there is no evidence, there is nothing to suggest that she is. That is what I mean.
They can get round it by saying “a source”, I know that, but the article would not hold unless there was something behind it.
E.g. Kate and William on the rocks in Jan. I don’t believe that they were but the reporter said so, they looked fine when we next saw them so that report may have been wrong. However, there was the fact that they had not been seen together for ages. THe rest may have been opinion but there was that fact.
And I won’t back down from my opinion Me. I’m just being sensible enough to say enough is enough, I’m fed up of debating this, it’s hot here, I’m hungry and our network is supid.
…Perhaps after eating, you will consider !
Anyways, with the enough is enough, I got your point.
nikki,
I agree with you. You’re only saying what I have said for the last few months.
It is very easy to spot. Provoke a ‘name’ ,get them agitated and they start repeating themselves word for word with same spelling and grammar errors. Interesting really.
Check the posts and some of the vitriolic comments they come back with.
That’s why I said above that we all know, provoked names, repeating there then here.
I take great offense to the “9 out of 10 are not British.” I don’t know what others are posting on other blogs, I only post here. BRW bloggers, some, usually have good info that I don’t have to in states. I don’t claim to know anymore facts than any other on this site. None of us really no much of anything, unless you are a personal friend of the RF. I was not aware that this was a Brits only site. Maybe there should be a disclaimer at the bottom. The world is divided enough as it is!
gracie,
No,no. You misunderstand me. I just came up with the 9/10 figure off the top of my head. My point was that the majority of those making the negative comments about W&K aren’t British subjects or citizens of commonwealth countries. I didn’t mean to say you had to be British to have an opinion about the royals. I’m an American but I love reading about & talking about Queen Elizabeth and her family:)
Nikki, good to know. I tried to look up Roman’s article he posted, but it will not let me. What was it about?
Gracie,
The link was for the news posted on the Daily Mail website about William’s holiday plans with Kate. He’s leaving his ship Friday but Kate has already flown out of the country to meet him.That’s been reported by the Sun & Telegraph as well. So we can assume it’s true but no pics yet of either of them.