The Sun gets exclusive Kate & William Holiday Snaps
Kate Middleton looks sensational on a Caribbean holiday — and lover Prince William’s approval is clear to sea.
The sexy brunette, 26, wore a black-and-white bikini to relax with Wills on a boat.
Action girl Kate even tried wakeboarding — and was towed in an inflatable ring, alongside Wills. They have been staying at a £5million villa on Mustique after Wills, 26, ended a month-long stint on a Royal Navy warship.
A royal insider said: “It’s the first time they have been seen on summer holiday for 2½ years. “It will intensify suggestions of an engagement.” The couple return today.
View photos of Kate & William on holidays at The Sun…
August 8th, 2008 22:41
Wow it looks like they had a great time and I’m glad we got to see some pictures. They may go to Balmoral when they arrive back.
August 8th, 2008 23:48
how they get their exclusive pics? they’re nice! they seems to be enjoying, what is the next holiday to them?
August 9th, 2008 02:27
Nice trip right??? he..he..hey wills, next time invite me at yor holiday with kate okay? maybe we can go to Disneyland World at USA, bro he..he..i like adventure travelling
August 9th, 2008 03:06
Finally, we got some pictures of these two. But again, the same thing is being said over again “it will intensify suggestions of an engagement”, come on people, then just because a couple goes out together to have some fun or just because a guy invites his girl to a family party or event doesn’t mean that they are already getting engaged. This happens to all couples, they go out together to places, and if there is a family party or something, then they take their boy/girl friend to the party but this is more than normal in relationship. KM and PW have been in holidays so many times, and KM has attended RF events so many times, that I don’t know why it would so surprising for us to see them in one more of their usual holidays as to think that this is something unusual, surprising and suspecting that there is a royal engagement. Oh well, the DM is always just trying to attract the public.
August 9th, 2008 03:34
So there’s proof at last that they are indeed in Mustique. While I feel sorry for them being disturbed during their holiday I also have to admit that I like seeing pics like that. A guilty pleasure it is though.
August 9th, 2008 03:46
Trixie,
When PK’s story in the DM came out with such detail I am certain that PW would know where the information came from.
With so many people gathering there for the ‘Celebration’ there had to be one or two who are suspect.
If they are returning early to avoid the party and miss having to miss certain people it is a pity but I’m sure they continue holidaying elsewhere andthe clan is gathering at Balmoral.
Perhaps an early return was planned to meet another date ?
Who knows ? Lets hope!
August 9th, 2008 03:57
Trixie,
I have just had another look at their photographs.
They may have been from on board and may be an semi authorised release as they do not look like they have been taken from distance.
That is unless they have been betrayed by boat crew or ‘friends’.
August 9th, 2008 04:44
Photo number 4 is from last year when Kate was practicing with the row team. I think 5 is an old shot as well.
Interesting that they’re released the day before they return to Britain. Kind of supports your semi-authorised theory ked.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see more snaps or news tomorrow in The Sun…
August 9th, 2008 04:50
I agree,BRW picture 4 and 5 are old. I think No. 5 was taken on their Carribbean holiday in 2006. I don’t think the pics were taken from someone on the boat though. I guess they were taken from another boat close by. Maybe they made an arrangement after they realsised they were spotted that the pictures not be released until they returned home so that they can enjoy the rest of their holiday.
August 9th, 2008 05:00
People,
Just thoughts.
If pictures have been mixed up perhaps Steven in correct and more of this years may be in People tomorrow.
However, they could be anywhere in the sun. Not neceassary ‘The Island’
Just a thought !
August 9th, 2008 05:12
They were supposed to come home this weekend anyway. A couple of sites messed up and said two weeks but they were wrong.
August 9th, 2008 05:40
Hello all,
If they are mixing up the pictures is it for effect or are we being conned completely and all are from earllier holidays.
As a matter of interest who is blond girl behind PW in picture 6 ?
August 9th, 2008 05:44
Hello,
Sorry picture 5.
Also don’t like comment “a Royal Insider etc ” that always arouses suspicion that all may not be as it seems.
August 9th, 2008 06:18
The photo where Kate is water boarding or whatever it is called beside the boat looks strange. Does anyone else think so or is it just the angle? To me it looks like Kate was beside another boat and they photoshopped it to this boat or she was further away and they have just adjusted the photo. I’m not an expert but something did not look right to me.
August 9th, 2008 12:29
I don’t know! People are analyzing these photos like mad. On some forum they have decided that these pictures are all old. some say Pippa was there, some think the angles are strange. I understand that for some, the pure fact that Kate and William are together and having a nice time isvery disappointing. They hope they will break up tomorrow or soemthing. But what about the others, why not just accept the facts?
The sun has four pictures from Mustique this week. It’s Kate and William having fun. The Sun was not able to get any close-ups this so they added one of each of them. Kate’s is from when she was rowing, William’s from another holiday a couple of years ago.
August 9th, 2008 12:36
It does not remain doubt of that they form a beautiful couple but this is not enough seems the version century 21 of Charles and Diana and, all know that it finished in divorcio.espero that it thinks well before marking the date of marriage therefore can pass the remaining portion of the life lamenting
August 9th, 2008 12:38
Guys some of the pictures on W&HU was mixed up with old pictures but on The Sun pictures are all new. In The Sun it looks like Pippa ia with them but who knows.
August 9th, 2008 13:11
These are great pics! I like to see them having fun together. I hope they aren’t altered pics.
August 9th, 2008 13:13
I do agree with Rman that it looks like Pippa could be on the trip, nor would it surprise me. They went to Klosters together and and Middleton family have gone with William and Kate on another trip to a sunny resort I think in ‘06. Looks more like Pippa was the one being pulled on the rubber raft thing. Can’t think of name. If Pippa is there or James will be no fun coming home to the DM stuff.
August 9th, 2008 13:42
Why wasn’t Pippa mentioned in the story about Kate and the upgrade of her flight if she is there? Why would Sun try to hide the fact that Pippa was there? In all the Sun picture it is Kate that you see. It’s not at all difficult to see.
August 9th, 2008 16:21
Gosh, if I was Kate I would want time with my boyfriend on my own after not seeing him for 5 weeks. I would not want my little sister on a romantic holiday with me and I do think that William would.
I understand what you mean about over analysis of photos but a couple of them do look strange e.g. Is it Pippa is it not? I don’t think it is btw and what the one where she is beside the boat on that board, her face and position of head does not look right.
August 9th, 2008 17:27
Perhaps Pippa flew out the last week of their stay. Has it been 2yrs. since Kate and William had a summer vacation? It seems like they are always going on vacation. I don’t know why the Sun would not mention Pippa being there, but there have been other times they have reported they went with friends and it was with Kate’s family. Maybe that will be in the sunday piece.
August 9th, 2008 18:42
I don’t believe it was Pippa at all. Kate and Pippa are sisters, and sometimes from certain angles they look a lot alike. There would be no logical reason for a newspaper as old as The Sun not to verify who is in the photo with Wills before they print it.
Of course mistakes like that have been made, but they happen very rarely and very infrequently, especially when they involve a member of the Royal Family.
I think that’s Kate in the photo, and that Pippa wasn’t there. I think Wills and Kate were on holiday alone together, and those photos are of Kate with Wills, not Pippa with Wills. The Sun managed to confuse the issue by including two old pics of Wills and Kate in their slideshow.
One old pic is the one of Wills that was taken in Mustique in 2006, and the other old photo is of Kate, and it was taken when she was with the Sisterhood rowing crew in 2007.
Because The Sun included those two old photos doesn’t mean they made the mistake of confusing Pippa for Kate. If Pippa was on the island of Mustique with Kate and Wills, it would’ve been printed up in the Daily Mail.
Lately the Daily Mail’s biggest mission in life seems to be finding ways to savage Kate Middleton and write snarky, negative things about either Kate herself, or about her family members. So if Pippa was along on Will and Kate’s private holiday as a very sad fifth wheel, rest assured the Daily Mail wouldn’t have missed the opportunity to print it in the article and crow about it.
I truly doubt if Pippa was along playing gooseberry on Will and Kate’s holiday. I think Pippa has too much personal pride to do such a thing. Hopefully I won’t offend anyone on BRW by being frank, but that type of holiday is meant for quality alone time, intimacy and romance, not for bringing your sister along.
None of the articles say Pippa was there, and even though I realise we can’t swear by any newspaper articles without definitive photos, it’s also not logical that Pippa would be present.
August 9th, 2008 18:59
What about the rumour that the member at another royal Forum whose posts and Facebook pictures of James and Pippa Middleton were supposedly lifted or stolen from (and published in the Mail story on Wild James in drag) is actually a reporter posing as a Forum member?
Good way to keep track of what people are actually interested in reading about, I guess.
August 9th, 2008 19:04
Mapeleaf, you make a good point, but I one of the photos kate is being pulled and william is on boat w/ a brunette. Could be his security. The Sun made a huge mistake by putting older photos in with the new ones w/o stating it. It makes the photos seem as though they all are not legitimate photos from this current Mustique holiday. They certainly are not helping William and Kate because now it shreds doubt on if they did take this trip or not. It makes no sense as to why they would use old file photos when they could have justed posted the 3 new ones.
August 9th, 2008 19:13
Alsgal, wow have not heard that rumor. But with all the leaking of Chelsy,Pippa and James photos it would not suprise me one bit.
August 9th, 2008 19:50
For comparisons sake on Photo number 4 in The Sun’s article.
Exhibit 1 (published in The Sun)
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00550/SNN0903Z_580_550597a.jpg
Exhibit 2 (note same earing, same top) (published in Daily Mail)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_03/sisterhoodR2508_468×814.jpg
Exhibit 3 (from Rex Features – the owners of the photos)
http://www.rexfeatures.com/images/thumb/679735ab.jpg
Look familiar? If not the same shot certainly from that sequence…
August 9th, 2008 20:38
Action girl Kate spends time with her Prince charming on their ‘honeymoon’ hideaway – Daily Mail
“Sporting a sexy black and white bikini she could have been any woman happily in love and spending quality time with her boyfriend on holiday.
And Prince William looked equally as smitten as he and girlfriend Kate Middleton relaxed and soaked up the Caribbean sunshine.
But it was sexy Kate who was turning heads as she showed off her svelte curves and impressive wakeboarding skills.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1043215/Action-girl-Kate-spends-time-Prince-charming-honeymoon-hideaway.html
August 9th, 2008 20:49
BRW it’s obvious The Sun used 2 old photos with 4 new photos. Why they did that I don’t know, but I do know the wakeboarding and tube-riding photos are new, and the photo of Wills and Kate on the boat is new.
The latest article from the Daily Mail gives more details of who was present on the island of Mustique this last time that Wills and Kate were there, and even though I don’t believe everything I read in the DM, they did mention some well known celebrity names.
I believe that Wills and Kate were staying alone together in their villa, and Pippa wasn’t staying with them. How strange it would be for Pippa to stay with the couple alone, not to mention an intrusion of Wills and Kate’s privacy!.
Really, Pippa strikes me as being too socially savvy to ever consider placing herself in such an intrusive position with two people who want to be alone, especially when one of the people is the heir to throne! I doubt if she would interfere with their intimacy in that way.
alsgal, I do indeed believe Richard Kay took the information for his most recent article from the forum you mentioned. I think he lifted the information word for word, and then signed his name to it. It definitely means we have to take everything we read with a grain of salt, and it also means that the newspapers are so desperate for royal news that they are combing royalty forums and royalty news spots and royal blogs for any insight they can find!!
August 9th, 2008 20:57
To think Richard Kay calls himself a journalist! I wouldn’t housebreak my puppy on some of the trash he writes!
August 9th, 2008 22:17
alsgal,
A poster on one of the other royal websites made a very good point about why the DM has suddenly gone negative on Kate. This person suggested that all the positive articles written before the break up was an attempt by the DM hacks to get an inside line to Kate Middleton or someone really close to her. Just like Richard Kay was a confidant to Princess Diana. However, once their efforts proved to be futile they decided to teach Kate a lesson. Hence all the negative articles & false information put out by the Mail these days. It’s a very interesting theory. And one I had never even thought of.
August 10th, 2008 05:27
Some of the pictures and cations in the latest version of the DM article are quite amusing…they actually expect people to believe that PW and KM are sleeping in a room with no walls! LOLOLOLOL!!!TThe place is amazing,though but I would hope the future King and his GF have more “private” sleeping quarters.;)
August 10th, 2008 07:21
Sorry to burst anyones bubble, but the Daily Star have those pics from the sun, and you can see James Middleton with William & Kate on the boat, pippa looks hidden. I thought I saw Pippa in the Sun pics. A poster over at a forum posted the Daily Star pics and you can see James there.
August 10th, 2008 07:30
What would the daily star pictures burst anyones bubble? I don’t get it. Is it a baaad thing for extended families to vacation together? Kates sister was in Klosters with them as well. Obviously William is quite happy to include them.
August 10th, 2008 08:46
I looked at pictures on other site, very negative bunch over there and yes you can see James and Pippa. I thought that was Pippa with William! I guess they did not bring gf/bf with them on this vacation or I think they would be on boat with them. I would be Kate parents are there too. Maybe William considers them his family too. I think it speaks volumes as to how close he and Kate are that he allows her family to go too. Maybe it will be a special vacation for all of them!
August 10th, 2008 10:14
Pippa and James were not there. At least there are no pictures of them.
August 10th, 2008 10:19
gracie,I agree about the negative folks at that site. It\’s kind of sad actually that people wake up in the morning and head for an internet site just to bash or make fun of others so I don\’t pay it much mind. It is a small group and they are probably young. Some of the pictures on the daily Star appear poorly photoshopped to me. They are probably trying to compete with the Sun. I am glad Will and Kate had a nice time but I am anxious for them to return home so we can see what their next move is.
August 10th, 2008 10:42
Lisa,
You should visit that site more often because it is very amusing watching them fall all over themselves trying to downplay W&K’s relationship. Whenever Catherine is at a royal event like the Garter, Peter Phillips wedding, or Lady Rose’s wedding they try very hard to say it all doesn’t mean anything. That William is really about to dump Kate any second now. The bashing isn’t limited to Ms Middleton anymore. William gets regularly dragged down too. It’s really kind of a royal twilight zone over there. I used to post all the time on that site but now I’ve found you guys & RA. Talking with people who don’t have an irrational hatred of all things Wills-Kate is so much more fun and enjoyable.
Where will they turn up next? Hoping it will be Balmoral or Birkhall.
August 10th, 2008 11:00
nikki,what is really really scary is that the DM is getting material from that site of all places,lol. btw,did you hear this was the “breakup vacation”?LMAO. I don’t know where they will turn up next. I think Balmoral is a possibility. I am really curious to see how William intergates Kate into his daily life now that the Army/Navy stuff is wrapping up.
August 10th, 2008 11:56
I know, like I said before they are gearing up for later.
August 10th, 2008 12:23
If Pippa and/or James was not there who are the people that I have circled in red?
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd341/bambi_boo_images/Holiday1-1.jpg
I see no reason why a newspaper would want to photoshop Kate’s siblings into a photo can you? They would get more newspapers sold if it was just the two of them, because it would be more romantic and would allow engagement rumours to increase.
August 10th, 2008 12:29
B, it must be to sell the story as if William might propose or something. It sells more like you said then adding they went on vacation with the family. Although it does not mean Kate and William time was any less intimate. Pippa and James could have arrived a week later. Who knows?
August 10th, 2008 12:57
Or it could be another couple they went with for the day. Sometimes couples pair up for a day of fun on the water.
August 10th, 2008 12:58
There were other people on the islande they could have shared a boat with. And also bodyguards.
August 10th, 2008 13:18
B, I just realised which forum you were speaking of, the one you saw that photo on.
It’s not the same forum that the Daily Mail took the article information from, it’s a different forum. The forum you saw that photo on is one that was just started in April of this year.
The forum the Daily Mail took the info for the article from has been around for several years, and IMO it has a better balance of people who post.
That new forum which just started in April 2008 is just horribly negative towards Wills and Kate.
The forum I was referring to, the one Richard Kay took all of the information for his article from, does have some people who make negative comments, but it’s not nearly as negative as the newer forum I am referring to.
Since I am making these comments on BRW I won’t mention the names of those other places, but IMO that older forum is nicer than that new one.
I also want to complement the fact that BRW has a balanced and well-rounded group who like to post, I enjoy reading everyone’s comments.
Lastly, this is the first time I’ve seen that photo, but the guy in the photo does look like James Middleton. I can’t tell if the other girl is Pippa, but I haeve to say the guy does look like James.
If it IS James, then I’m really surprised Wills would holiday on Mustique with Kate and her siblings instead of being there alone with Kate, although I would guess it means William is very very close to Kate’s family.
Otherwise, why would he go on holiday with them? Personally I wouldn’t take my brother and sister on holiday with me and my boyfriend, I just can’t fathom that idea!
But if it turns out that really is James and Pippa, perhaps they brought along significant others so it was sort of like a couples group outing?
August 10th, 2008 13:21
That person in the boat is James. If you had spent 5 weeks from your girlfriend and were desperate to see her, would you want her family there? Who takes their girlfriend’s siblings with them on a romantic holiday? Who on earth does that?There is a girl behind the man who I believe is James, as far as I know PW has never had a female bodyguard.
August 10th, 2008 13:24
What is the big deal if Kate and William had her family with them? They have had family trips with William before. Yes, they could have been other people to share boat with, but the chances of them looking like James and Pippa are about one in a million. That is not Kate being pulled in the raft with William, that is Pippa. Pippa has a narrower face and smile is different than Kate. I hope for an engagement like some of us do, but the press built this up to be a “honeymoon” trip and proposal trip. Maybe it was and William wanted Kate’s family there.
August 10th, 2008 13:25
Mapleleaf, I agree with most of what you say except I still don’t see Kate or William wanting James to go on holiday with them, even if he had a partner with him.
Although I do think it is James as I said in my above post I do not understand why they bought him along.
August 10th, 2008 13:28
My last post made no sense at all so please ignore it and I will try again.
Mapleleaf: yes, this is a nice place to post as there are so many different views.
I do think it is James, but I do not think that it is very romantic that they bought Kate’s little brother along even if a girlfriend was with him, so I do not understand why they did.
That makes more sense I think.
You could be right gracie, the press may have built this up to be a proposal trip and honeymoon etc, when it might not be. It could just be another holiday which although not romantic makes more sense considering James is there.
August 10th, 2008 14:08
Don’t get the honeymoon angle either. You can’t take a honeymoon without a wedding first. None of the articles have mentioned either of the Middleton siblings being in Mustique. Which is odd if they were really there. Not that it’s important now as W&K are back in the UK.
August 10th, 2008 14:41
People magazines website has just posted the story in their news section. Funny how they report that a coastguard cutter helped chase off the paps..probably the very ones they bought the picture they used on their website from,lol!
August 10th, 2008 14:43
Why is it so surprising that James and/or Pippa may have been there? They were together in Ibizza in 2006 and Pippa went along to Klosters this year. William and Kate already had a romantic week in Mustique in May maybe they didn’t feel they needed another one? And it’s not like they will not get any alone time just because Kate’s siblings may have been there. I’m sure theri villa is big enough for four.
August 10th, 2008 14:49
Btw. is it confirmed that they are back in the UK because I’ve read some articles that said they wanted to spend 2 weeks in Mustique…
August 10th, 2008 14:52
I am surprised that people have made so much of the two of them having family members along. It is not like their relationship is in the “new and can’t keep my hands off you” phase, they have been together pretty much for the last 6 years! I would imagine they have reached a comfort zone by now.
August 10th, 2008 15:11
Mapleleaf:”Royal Forum” did not start this April.So it must be the one you say is ok. And it is not balanced. It’s awful and 98% of the posters are negative towards Kate and love Chelsey. They have no real understanding of royal life and they think the British royal family can be compared to “Hollywood”.One poster makes up a weird story and after half a day that is the thruth on that board. A couple of people try yo be more balanced but they are ignored. The posters have read and believed everything there is on the net about Kate and others. They believe all the negative and never the positive. They think Kate is gererally hated, that Wills is with her because no other girl wants him, that he doesn’t love her, that his family doesn’t like her,that she is ugly, can’t dress, is a social climber and golddigger, has no friends, will never get married to Wills or any other man, is lazy and will not o her royal duties if she gets married (!), etc etc. I do not understand how you can say that that is a “nice” forum. It’s awful and the posters are generally mean and evil.
August 10th, 2008 15:21
Some more pics from the Mustique holiday. Looks to me like James, Pippa and Carole were on the boat with William and Kate. I’m sure Kate’s dad was there somewhere as well. So just Wills and the in-laws.;-)
http://www.bunte.de/adel/karibikurlaub_did_2754.html
It was reported that Kate left already the Monday before William finished his Navy attachment. Maybe she had two weeks of holidays, the first with her family and then they were joined by William on Friday.
August 10th, 2008 15:33
Personally I think it’s great for William to be able to holiday with a real family. It’s not that his family does a lot of things together as a family. I’m sure he finds it wonderful to be a part of a close-knit unit like the Middletons. And if anything should be a sign of an engagement and marriage in the (near) future, it is the fact that he invites her family to a holiday like this. Good on William and good on the Middleton family.
(I’m sure the posters on other forums will see this as a sign that William doesn’t love Kate, that the can’t stand being alone with her haha)
August 10th, 2008 15:45
I’ve nothing against them bringing along Kate’s family please don’t get me wrong and I am sorry if I appeared that way and it is fantastic that they get along but it does contradict the reports which said that this was a romantic getaway for the 2 of them to reunite together just on their own. I would have thought that that is what they would have preferred but then I am not them so oh well…
August 10th, 2008 15:47
Thanks for the pictures Trixie. William’s neck does look strange in Picture 4, it looks rather uncomfortable to me. lol
Good to see them all having fun.
August 10th, 2008 16:51
While I think it would be completely sweet that Kate’s li’l bro went along, and indeed it might be true that he was there, and maybe even Pippa too —
is it possible these are just old pictures from the Middleton family/PW Ibiza trip back in August of 2006? I remember that Kate had given William some darling little red hot chili pepper swim trunks prior to that trip, and lo and behold, he is wearing them in these shots — at least I think those look like peppers.
My theory is Kate and William went alone, had a beautiful and romantic time together, and the press, being so frustrated at not being able to get private pics, is just recycling these old photos — whaddya think?
August 10th, 2008 17:02
Hello,
I think several papers have taken us for a ride and invented their news stories.
The photographs are suspect and may be old ones resurrected mainly from foreign agencies.
They know the stories will neither be verified or denied but they have sold their papers.
It did seem strange that if they were on the island how so many pictures and stories came out.
Last time they were supposedly there only one story came out and that from a friend of someone who made comments on here which was never confirmed. Curiously (pun intended) that person doen’t seem to post now.
It’s strange that when we want something to happen then we will believe anythig
August 10th, 2008 17:18
Hello,
Not sure who mentioned it but PW does have two female security guards.
One blond, who often seems to drive the Land Rover and an older well built brunette who appears to have some rank.
The blond drove the Land Rover the night they were chased in London and the senior one is often close to KM never behind but on one side or another.
The blond was also on duty the night that KM hosted the photographic and book exibition at Bluebird and was on the IOW with PW and PH.
August 10th, 2008 17:30
Ok, here’s my take. The photo of Wills & Kate on the boat is probably new & taken while they were in Mustique- the one with Kate in the black bikini. The others have for whatever reason been added to that 1 photo to make it seem like there are a lot more pics taken from this holiday. The People story makes no mention of the Middleton family coming along with W&K (only that they were on the boat with pals) just as none of the other stories about their trip mention James, Pippa, or their parents.
August 10th, 2008 18:59
HI KED…
Actually, I do still post here and I completely, 150%, stand behind my friends’ story a couple of months ago…I just switched screen names because, when I originally posted, I was asking a question of curiosity and therefore found the name apropos at the time…whereas now that I post a little more frequently I dropped the “curious” title…
So…I’m still alive and well and definitely was not trying to pass off a false story and then disappear!
Sorry for any confusion…
August 10th, 2008 19:43
Dagy, I agree with your previous post. If William did not want to be alone with Kate, then he would not invite her family, he would invite other friends, buddies. I think most of the press are snotty and don’t like the Middleton’s for class reason. Which is silly. William fondness for Kate family is a reflection of how he feels about Kate. But IMO I feel like the longer William carries on w/o an engagement the worse it will get in the press for Kate family. It is really getting horrible the stuff they are running on Pippa and James, who really are just thrown into it because of Kate’s relationship with William. The longer Kate and William date the more amunition the press gets, more photos to be leak, etc.
August 10th, 2008 20:14
gracie,
I wouldn’t say most of the British press take shots at the Middleton family. Mostly it’s the Daily Mail. Just as 80% of the negative stories about W&K come from them. But now we know they get a lot of their material from a certain internet site filled with nothing but vitriol about Kate, her family, and William. You’re correct about the engagement. Assuming William and Kate love each other and both want to take the next step I think it is unfair to keep putting it off & have Kate in this sort of limbo with no official status.
August 10th, 2008 22:49
I also agree nikki but I have a feeling that things are about to change even more. William is a very caring person and he really care about Kate and her family and it looks like he’s now part of their family.
August 10th, 2008 23:20
Pippa and James were probably there, and the reason why the Sun doesn’t report this is because if they mention this, then this is not going to look like a romantic holiday for KM and PW. The sun wants this holiday to look romantice to suggest that they are getting engaged, that way, they will capture more the public’s attention (and therefore are going to sell more and win more money).
In my opinion, if pippa and james were there, then this is not a romantic holiday b/ KM and PW, and then it means that PW is not desperate to enjoy being alone with kate after not seeing her for so long.
August 10th, 2008 23:28
I wouldn’t say that the holiday wasn’t romantic because I’m sure William & kate was alone at times and they must have been in different bedrooms. It seemed to have been a wonderful holiday for them. If they go to Balmoral then they will be alone. Highgrove will also be a great place for them to be alone as well because Charles & Camilla are at the Castle of Mey.
August 11th, 2008 00:39
Hello Rmna,
I think unfortunately that you are assuming tjhat PW has inherited a caring personality from Diana.
He hasn’t but PH has.
PW was known as being very selfish and difficult when a child and it has often been commented that this trait has followed him into adulthood.
This has often been described as being strong willed . It isn’t it’s a certain selfishness and wilfulness which often comes out in his character.
As a King it will be a good asset but as a man or even a lover it may not always be to a partners advantage.
He does give the impression that, whilst feeling sorry for KM and her family’s discourteous treatment by public abd certain members of the press, he will be thinking of himself first and foremost and unless he and KM sort out their future fairly quickly more and more of these horrible stories and exaggerations will surface.
As I have said many times there is still a long wait which may end in a tragedy for both as it could end with heatache on both sides and a long lonely time ahead.
August 11th, 2008 00:41
Rman,
Sorry for getting name wrong in last post.
Sincere apologies
August 11th, 2008 02:11
Well I’m very happy to say that I don’t think they care about what the press write’s about them. It don’t hurt them in any way which is one of the reasons they don’t respond to the press. I think it’s hard for us to understand how they deal with the crazy press stories and not fight back but they realize that you can’t get down on their level and the more you shine a light on a crazy story then the bigger the problem gets. William has learned that the press can get nasty but you just don’t get nasty back. They are living their lives the way they want to and nothing will make that change.
August 11th, 2008 02:52
true Rman, I feel sorry for them. They may be royal and wealthy but they have to pay a high price for that. I surely wouldn’t want to pay that price in exchange for all the luxuries they have. People may think that being royal is something great, but in reality it is not.
August 11th, 2008 13:45
Rman,
It is all very well for others to say that the RF, PW and KM in particular do not worry what is said about them in the papers.
I am a confessed royalist and I do care what is written about , possibly, the next but one Queen of my Country.
The stories that are written in the papers now and the nasty speculation and accusations about KM and her family will remain on file for the next 50+ years.
Every time something ,probably unconnected, happens ome hack will go back into his files and will start his piece with ” and back in 2008 when the then PW and …….etc” and many people who will not remember what exactly is the truth about what is happening now will form opinions based on those reports.
That is why I object strongly to some comments especially when they are repeated from site to site and then from paper to paper.
People do not realise that this is what happens in the media. It happens now with references back to Prince Charles, Diana and others and unfortunately , the comments are believed and repeated by people, many of whom believe what is said and printed..
August 11th, 2008 14:01
Ked
Why do you care so much about what is said about KM and her family? In what way is this going to affect you in your person?
You don’t even know them to care so much about them anyways, or do you?
I just don’t share the same feelings as you. I couldn’t care so much about some people who I have never had any contact with. But don’t misunderstand, that doesn’t mean that I want damage to other people just because I don’t know them, and of course I don’t like other people suffering, but I can’t be as dramatic as you are being. The bad comments that people make against the middletons in this website have no evidence and no one is going to pay attention to these people who are making unfunded bad allegations against them. If someone pays attention these people, them it means that that person is as stupid as they are. So stop being so dramatic, please.
August 11th, 2008 14:06
Some members of the press is nasty, what can you say. It’s true. They do read the papers from time to time but what really gets under the press skin is William & kate don’t fight back. They want this couple to say something because they are too silent and keeping everyone on their toes. Some members of the press is tierd of it.
August 11th, 2008 14:30
People, she hasn’t cheated nor fornicated with any other than PW…its not that we will be talking about it, like Princess Di’s case.
August 11th, 2008 14:56
Hello all,
I’m sorry I haven’t made myself clear.
It is not what is the truth it is what people believe is the truth and sometime in the distant future it is what is on record that people believe.
When and if KM becomes Queen her family will come under more scrutiny than they have now and the only record will not be memory it will be records and those records will mainly be the newspaper stories recorded now.
Think of what has been said about KM and her family members over the past 18 months and think how that will sound in the future to the 25,30 and 35 year old population who will not have true memories only what they are given to read from the newspaper reports generated now and most generated by lazy reporters who plough through sites like this for their stories.
August 11th, 2008 14:58
Me,
Please !
” fornicating ?”
Please withdraw that comment.
August 11th, 2008 15:10
I will not, you say that KM “actons” or bad press will be there in a file for 50+ years, well I don’t think she has done anything sin full or “terrible” like what I previously mentioned to be in a file or talking about in the next 50 years. It is my opinion, and I took it out forward to give a REAL comparison of a filed issue that seems to be a TABU to some.
August 11th, 2008 15:40
Kate and her family do need to be aware of the negative press that they have been receiving (may I point out that this press is by the same reporters that praised her a year ago). As a potential royal Kate must ensure that her reputation is at least decent. In my memory at least I do not think we have had a possible bride to the future King criticized as much as Kate has been, after all this future bride is a future Queen.
BTW: although it is hardly a sin, she has had previous boyfriends other than William. There was Ian who she had a fling with on her gap year. Fergus Boyd who she dated for a year before William and Willem who she dated at school. Not that I think it is a problem but I just wanted to clarify that.
Sonia, I know you ask why we care about KM, well the answer is that she could be our future Queen or at least my future Queen (I don’t know where you are from). I want a Queen who is respected by the public and negative press like James in a dress or pictures of James naked does damage her reputation because he is her brother. Stories of Kate being bashed because she is not working damages her reputation.
August 11th, 2008 15:41
Sorry that was actually me who made the above post but I accidently pressed B twice.
August 11th, 2008 15:51
Yes but she is STILL single, not married, nor in a process of divorce. So her decent reputation is there. Whatever the press writes, IMO is rubbish, and that is precisely what they want – to win over the Middletons and make them surrender, and that will never happen.
August 11th, 2008 16:06
If memory serves me right Camilla Parker Bowles has been torn apart by the British press. I know Camilla made a very big mistake being the mistress of the Prince of Wales but no human being deserves to be trashed the way she has been. Some of the things said about her appearance have been way over the line. But the media American or British really doesn’t care. It’s about what sells or what drives up the traffic on a website. Unfortunately some people believe everything they read- good or bad or whether it makes sense or not. That’s one reason I’d never wan to be famous. Who wants all that stress and intrusion?
August 11th, 2008 16:13
Aha, well said.
That is the point, I think people are looking and gasping for small numbers, where scandal is a not. I’m sure Bachellor James Middleton hasn’t done anything wilder or worse than Bachellor Guy Pelly, TvS, or others in PW circle.
Why would people accept the silly things Chelsy has done, and KM and her siblings not ? In fact, KM doesn’t do silly things, maybe she should, to keep tongues wagging
August 11th, 2008 16:36
BB,
I am from America. I do have respect for a person who was elected by the people (like a president) to care for our country, but I don’t like being submissive with people who are in power just because they were born with the overprivilege of being in a monarchy.
August 11th, 2008 16:46
I also think PW and even PH have done wilder things with photo proof (I can post a classified pics not for under 18 of PH half naked with glass cups as breast, snorting vodka, others, etc. smileyface with my eyebrow look), specially the later, who is ROYALTY, then private citizen James Middleton.
So lets all be honest here, or should we all bring out the dirty stuff and compare once and for all ? and lets see who ends up being the cleaner ones.
August 11th, 2008 17:25
My point about James was there it casts a bad light on the Middleton family, James and Pippa naked and/or in toilet paper, whilst their elder sister does not work is not a good impression for the Middleton’s.
At the end of the day you are right Me, it should not matter but family connections are important especially in upper class circles. It is human nature to think like that even if it is not right.
August 11th, 2008 17:30
The Queen knows what goes on in the Upper circles, and be sure that the Middletons actions are decent in comparisson to the wild stuff the aristo kids do, which by the way hang out with them.
August 11th, 2008 21:08
Sonia,
I’m curious, than why hang out on a site about Royalty???
August 12th, 2008 01:34
I don’t think any “wild” pics of James and Pippa hurt Kate in any way. If the party pics of Chelsy don’t hurt her chances to eventually become Harry’s wife, why should pics of Kate’s siblings, not even of herself, be a problem? I’m sure in the 21st century noone expects a Princess to be a virginal innocent little wallflower anyways.
I find that extremely amusing…
However I do think that the constant allegations of “social climbing” by the Middletons may cast doubt on Kate’s feelings for William. I’m sure there are those who are only too willing to believe this and think all she wants is to become a Princess. Funnily enough the same people also believe that she has no clue what being Royal would be like. So a cunning manipulative social climber who wants nothing more but to marry into royalty but has a naive child-like view of royal life.
Of course the only person who has to be convinced that she’s in love with him is William but this story line will remain a source of tabloid fodder for years to come, I fear. Especially since neither Willliam nor Kate really give reason to gossip about them in any other way and one can’t really conter any such allegation. Luckily enough both William and Kate had time to get used to the constant media speculations and learned not to take it seriously. For any other relationship this may be a cause of conflict.
August 12th, 2008 02:42
Sonia,
Your earlier comment about respect ?
I am not a political animal but have always deplored bullies, in particular elected bullies.
Enough said!
August 12th, 2008 04:42
There is a difference between seeing Chelsy drunk and seeing James Middleton naked with his hand covering himself.
August 12th, 2008 04:51
The DM didn’t publish any pics of James nacked and I see no problem with him being either. Actually it would be much more shocking for him to sit fully clothed in a bath tub…
James isn’t dating a royal and he’s not up for marriage of one either hence I cannot see the problem. Even if he was not merely a fun loving party boy but a mass murderer, I do not understand what that has to do with Kate. She’s not responsible for her siblings but only for herself.
If it wasn’t for the prudish scandal searching press, this would be a none issue since noone would ever have seen these pics and get all wound up about them. The only criticism James (and Pippa) deserve is that they put these pics online where they can easily be accessed by the press other than that there’s nothing wrong with their behaviour.
August 12th, 2008 05:46
Very droll Trixie. What is even more shocking that him having a bath fully clothed is him allowing someone to photograph him having a bath and then naked on a sofa. I’m not going to post the pictures on here because I don’t know if Steven would be happy about that or not.
My point is that the behaviour of Pippa and James reflects upon Kate. Kate is Pippa’s and James’ friend and sister, well there other friends take photos of James naked and do all the other things with we have seen pictures of. It’s not Kate’s fault I never said it was and I feel sorry for her that these pictures of her family have been published. My point is that the images shown that Pippa and James are two very immature young people. I am 22, younger than Pippa and a similar age to James and I have had more than my fair share of fun but there is no way, no way at all that I would ever do something like that. It’s not prudish, it’s being mature enough to realize that there are certain things in life which is not appropriate.
August 12th, 2008 05:50
I would just like to add that Pippa and James are no longer completely private people. Just as there is an interest in KM and PW’s relationship, there is an interest in everything about Kate, her friends, her family etc. People want to know and when your sister is dating PW, you cannot expect for you to remain a completely private citizen. Why else would there be photos of Pippa and she left nighclubs and went to the Cartier International even though her sister was not there? If Pippa was a completely private figure there would not have been a article about her boyfriends a week or two ago.
August 12th, 2008 05:53
“And finally, as we were saying, shedloads of celebs are currently sunning themselves on exclusive beaches the world over, and Kate Middleton and Prince William are no exception. Kate has been with the prince to holiday (from what exactly?) on the Caribbean jetset private island of Mustique. They’re both due to fly back today though to beautiful Blighty, where we’re currently experiencing positively autumnal weather. Doesn’t it just make your heart bleed for them? ”
http://tinyurl.com/6ckpep
August 12th, 2008 05:57
I haven’t done anything like that either but it looks like very normal college brat boy behaviour to me. I think James is 21 and Pippa 25 now. Who knows how old they were when those pics were taken?
I agree that I wouldn’t allow anyone to take such pics of me and put them online, but I still don’t understand why that should reflect badly on Kate. So her 21 year old brother is immature. What does that have to do with her?
Does it reflect badly on William that Harry got himself pictured half naked with other men snorting vodka at the age of 23? Or are only commoners held to such high standards?
I strongly believe that evryone is responsble for their own behaviour and not that if his whole family (except parents who of course are to a certain degree responsible for their children’s actions).
August 12th, 2008 06:20
Oh it reflected very badly on William and Harry but they then did other things with made the public look over the past mistakes. At the moment, all I and the rest of the public knows James and Pippa for is those pictures which is not the best impression.
Kate is not responsible for their behaviour it just reflects badly on the Middletons if all they are known for is this sort of thing and the fact that Kate is sleeping with PW.
August 12th, 2008 06:22
Oh I won’t be able to chat any more for the next few hours, I’m about to go on holiday. If necessary, I can finish talking about this later but the conversation may have moved on.
Bye everyone, talk to all soon. (Wish me luck on the plane, I’m scared of flying
)
August 12th, 2008 06:56
Hello all,
Very interesting article in Telegraph by Mandrake by Tim Walker.
It’s self explanatory but unfortunately reflects comments I made her a few weeks ago whilst commenting about PW disappearance for the Peter/Autumn wedding, the motor cyclist and the Stag party in IOW and the young blond seen there.
All in the Wareham /bournemouth area
August 12th, 2008 08:52
Kate has nothing to worry about and I really don’t think anyone should concern themseleves with William & Kate’s relationship. That’s pretty solid. Also William is not stupid.
August 12th, 2008 09:18
Rman,
I think Prince William learned the hard way that old lesson about the grass not always being greener on the other side
August 12th, 2008 10:42
Exactually. He’s on a mission to learn and he’s serious.
August 12th, 2008 11:21
Hi everyone,
The flight was horrible as usual, I am such a nervous flier, but it’s okay now. Phew.
Interesting comment in the Telegraph I agree. I ended up buying that paper at the airport coindentially. It cannot yet be ignored until he does begin training and it is possible. After all, in December 2006 everyone thought they were going to get married (a lot of people here were sure of wedding in 2007 or 2008 at the latest). However, then things went downhill. I think it is too earlier to discount it yet.
After all, none of us really know how strong their relationship is. It might be very close to marriage or it could be weakening (although I doubt it), who knows?
August 13th, 2008 07:52
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August 13th, 2008 08:06
Patricia dear, you seem to forget that William practices the Anglican Church of England. And when he becomes King, he will be the Supreme Head of the CHURCH of England.
Once again, Prince William’s religion is not the same as your religion, he doesn’t follow the old nor new testament.
August 13th, 2008 08:08
And Patricia its up to you if you wish to post your “personal” pictures. I wouldn’t, that’s dangereous – internet security is highly recommended.
Look what happens with famous people with facebook pictures
Have a nice day.
August 13th, 2008 15:37
What’s cabrito? Can I eat it?
August 13th, 2008 16:21
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