Aides want Prince William fast-tracked to Throne
Prince William is being fast-tracked for the throne in a deal that will make him king within years.
Buckingham Palace aides are concerned that William’s golden years will be spent kicking his heels waiting his turn.
So courtiers are persuading Prince Charles to step aside almost as soon as he’s become king after the Queen’s death.
They believe William, who will make sexy Kate Middleton his queen, is the only chance for the survival of the monarchy past another generation.
“He is the right age, the right man and it’s the right time for the job before his best years are wasted marking time,” explained one aide.
The deal has been prompted in part by Charles’ milestone 60th birthday in November when he will officially become the oldest ever heir to the throne.
“He has spent so much of his life just waiting. He won’t impose that on his son,” said the aide.
Read the whole story at the Daily Star
August 24th, 2008 03:29
I would not for a second believe that Charles will step aside for William especially not when William’s “King training” isn’t even finishd yet.
The part about him being a member of the Way ahead group and the Chequers Committe as well as the prospect of him joining the Queen on engagements is interesting though. I hope that’s true because it sounds like a reasonable plan.
August 24th, 2008 04:17
yeah, i know for a long ago everybody wants Wills to pass his father especially Princess Diana when she’s still life! that news i think make catherine Middleton and her family happy cause she’s can be fast become a queen of Britain, congratulations queen Catherine. don’t forgot we all who faithfull with you if you have already to be Princess of Cambridge your highness he….he…
August 24th, 2008 08:17
mariskaagusta,
Yes, Diana did say in that Panorama interview that she didn’t think Charles should be king. I sometimes wonder if the Queen feels that way too.
Trixie,
I agree. Charles will be king unless he dies before Her Majesty. He’s been waiting too long to pass it up in favor of William. But, assuming the Queen lives as long as her mother, Prince Charles won’t have a very long time on the throne.
August 24th, 2008 08:28
No way Charles will give up his line to the throne! But I do think that it makes since to have William train in his future role as King, because Charles is already 60 and his reign will not be as long as the Queen, therefore William probably will take on engagements with the Queen. The DM is getting so transparent with their anger of the Middletons. The picture they have of Kate holding a glass of what-ever is old. Why not use one that is more current.
August 24th, 2008 08:49
The DM built KM up, and now they are bringing her down. Why? Because it sells papers. Kate has not changed one iota (publicly speaking) over the past three years, and yet many in the press seem out to crucify her. I want to know why, they feel it’s “OK” to tear someone as innocent as Kate apart like this. She is a human being, albeit a stunningly gorgeous one, but she nonetheless deserves to be treated with the same common decency as anyone else.
The only good thing I taker from this DM article is that we are hearing about a December engagement, which delights the pants off of me (actually, a mu-mu, as it’s Sunday and the one day of the week I don’t wear enough spandex to cloth the entire Las Vegas hookers convention.)
The Daily Star is at it again with their nonsense as well. British Royals do not step aside or abdicate, as it is viewed as a job for life. Silly.
August 24th, 2008 08:51
Sorry for all the misspellings but there’s just a wee bit of vodka in my Bloody Mary this morning!
August 24th, 2008 08:55
alsgal,I think the DM knows the engagement is getting close and they know they will not be one of the ones “in the loop” and they are lashing out. Just like the Peter and Autumn wedding fiasco. Plus I really think the way the Telegraph was embarrassed by having to retract the story about Prince Philips supposed cancer has really brought out the worst in the press regarding the royals. They are angry and they are spinning everything in a negative light. The daily star piece is so silly..just look at the picture with Wills and the crown.LOL.
August 24th, 2008 09:14
Lisa, they don’t call it silly season for nothing
and I agree with your theory, it makes sense.
They’re out of the loop, they won’t get the scoop, now they’re peddlin’ the poop — all so very predictible.
August 24th, 2008 11:04
Hello all,
I’ve ust enjoyed myself reading all that you are saying and it covers all I would like to say but you say it a lot more concisely and a lot politer than I.
Interesting day though.
Cheers
August 24th, 2008 11:16
I would love to know when Kate is doing all this clubbing and shopping. Besides the Raffles and Whiskey Bar and Mandela Concert, we hardly ever see her! So I go back to my original post saying that if the Queen wanted her to have a job, then why didn’t they insist she stay at Jigsaw? If Queen/CH wants her to do charity or get a job, if I were Kate I would say show me the security protection I will recieve. Kate would not rebel against the Queen’s wishes or she knows she would be booted. They need to announce this engagement before December so the press can not continue to brain-wash its viewers.
August 24th, 2008 11:42
On the Wills and Kate update they list link to charity page and Catherine Middleton as well as Holly Branson listed as one of the commitee members.
August 24th, 2008 12:49
Why does everyone listen to this stuff? Most of it is just gossip and rumors.
August 24th, 2008 13:00
Alsgal your post is slightly wrong, a royal did abdicate in the last century so yes it could happen. Do I think it will, no. This is probably the wish of the aides themselves, not based in any reality. I suspect William isn’t in a hurry to rule, obvious by the fact that he isn’t in a hurry for marriage.
August 24th, 2008 13:03
I think william should be next. Its the smartes thing.
and i think charles is to involved in contravesial things to be king .
♥
August 24th, 2008 13:04
I dont think i spelled that right……lol
August 24th, 2008 13:43
William would make a great King someday in the future so would Charles he would be a great king also.
August 24th, 2008 14:16
Apryl, the roller disco is not a rumor. The website is rollerdisco.org. It is about $90 per ticket to attend or 45 pounds.
August 24th, 2008 14:59
fjae, thank you for your diplomacy but my post was not slightly wrong, it was COMPLETELY wrong. Yes, indeed the members of the BRF do abdicate, as Edward VIII did in 1936.
That said, I would be very surprised to see Charles stepping aside in favour of William, as even his greatest critic will probably agree that despite his disastrous private life, he has put a great deal of effort into becoming King.
August 24th, 2008 15:42
Gracie, I know we all look forward to seeing Catherine at The Roller Disco. I know if they can be there, William & Harry will support her. I think at this time, people from charities and different orginazations are sending Catherine letters asking her if she would like to get involved with them. Offering her to represent them and become patron.
August 24th, 2008 15:59
Rman, you don’t think this charity event is real? Or perhaps I am not understanding you. I know she is getting stuff from different charities, but the rollerdisco.org has her as a patron as well as other people. She will be representing two different charities, both for children-Place2Be and childrens surgical unit Toms Ward at Oxford Hospital.
August 24th, 2008 16:22
Yes Gracie, I know the Roller Disco charity event is real, but I’m just saying more charities and orginazations will be contacting her so she can help them out. I’m sure she will consider them. Things are getting serious.
August 24th, 2008 16:33
Maybe RF/CH wants her to do charity before engagement so as to help her build up her PR, since she is being trashed in some of the mags and newspapers? I still think they should announce engagement first though.
August 24th, 2008 16:41
Why? As you said she is already being trashed in mags and newspapers (sometimes unfairly, sometimes the papers do have a valid point even if they are harsh). If they became engaged, there would be more criticism as she would no longer be entitled to as much as privacy etc. People would wonder whether or not they want a woman who has done virtually nothing for the past 3 years. It would be better for her and William if she had a good even if it was not perfect reputation before an engagement so when and if it was announced, there would be more support and less criticism.
August 24th, 2008 23:09
gracie,
You could have a point there. But I don’t think Kate’s involvement with this charity is a result of the garbage peddled by the DM or other tabs. William hates the media and wouldn’t do anything to please them. Plus neither the tabloid press nor the Kate haters online are representative of the 60 million people living in the UK. Most of them have their own lives to lead and they’re just more important things to care about than the specifics of Kate Middleton’s day to day life. Most Brits will only get to know Kate when/if there’s an engagement announcement. That is when the public relations team will introduce her to the public. And IMO the average joe/jane on the street will not resent Ms Middleton’s lifestyle as so many of her detractors seem to.
August 25th, 2008 00:24
If/When she gets engaged she finally has the chance though to take on public duties and be seen doing something especially charity work which right now she does not have. Within a couple of months what she did or did not do during their courtship will not matter anymore.
I really hope they do an engagement interview since I’ d love to know their side of the story.
August 25th, 2008 01:18
Hello,
All this will they, wont they and when ,is unfortunately getting the people,the population of the UK in particular, into a ‘couldn’t care less’ attitude.
For several months now this attitude has become prominent, has been recognised by the media and is now being actively promoted.
People are realizing that they have a lot more to concentrate on with their homes ,salaries and mortgages being foremost on their minds.
The Olympics and the UK successes is now the big news, as it should well be but apart from Princess Anne in her official capacity the RF both aged and older have been conspicuous by their absence.
The youth of the country have noticed this and in certain places have commented and reacted towards it.
Of course the rececption that will certainly be given at BP will resurrect interest and it will be noticed if PW and KM are present at such a reception. If they are not then the apathy will quickly change to indifference.
This is the chance to introduce PW and hopefully KM to the youth of the Country in the manner suggested earlier that PW would accompany HM at certain functions. PW without KM would undoubtedly put out the wrong signals.
August 25th, 2008 01:20
“aged and younger ”
sorry
August 25th, 2008 02:59
It maybe too late by an engagement. Look at Camilla, many people still do not like her even though she loves Charles and makes him happy. People remember the bad stuff and they will with Kate. It is human nature to. Nobody will buy the fact that she magically transforms herself over night from doing nothing to doing lots of charity work. People will just ask if she was capable of doing it why didn’t she get off her backside and do it before.
August 25th, 2008 03:46
Hello,
If over the next few weeks there is an unwlcome split which could happen unless misunderstandingd and entrenched positions are revised by PW/KM but more inpotantly by BP and CH staff,
If KM and PW finally deny commitment it will be the last time for thm at this stage of their lves but the interesting alternative very quickly arise,
Thoms Von S is obviouly ready and able to take obver as he obvously is impressed and attracted to KM. Km also trusts him and he has helped her out of trubled times before. And whats more he has seemed the perfect partner during their dancing outings where Willian with typical insurity has opted out,
Thomas V S is always around and there when KM’s emotional need has been ignored and dismissed by PW,
Look out for Thomas as if a hurried 2nd break up happens he,ll be there perhaps all the way to an alter,
The dangerous years are 5,10,15 years in future when historically Noble husbandss have
stepped assised and closed eyes and minds to thei wife,partners close up with the King and so the loyal royal show continues
Best to make firm brake and look for chunky athlete and help him with gojd medals
August 25th, 2008 05:40
Everyone should take it easy, the rag tabs are getting on. I still find the silly news going on.
August 25th, 2008 07:16
I’m not sure what you are saying at the moment. Do you think they will break up soon then or not?
There has been little to suggest that they will, but then the only evidence to support an engagement is speculation from the media despite what everyone says.
August 25th, 2008 07:29
One thing that I wanted to say in defence of Kate, after a few people rudely mentioned on another site that chairing a roller disco party was somehow frivilous and I quote, “so typical of Kate to do something charitable to make herself look good without actually getting her hands dirty.”
Exuse sem moi, but where do people get off knocking Kate for doing good? ARGHHHH! Don’t they understand that it is not a piece of cake to call all of one’s friends, and get them on board, to get the menu decided, the venue decided, to sort over the invitations, gift bags, and the music?!!!?
It’s almost as if Kate is planning a wedding right now, except instead of there being a wedding dance at the reception, they will be roller skating instead.
It’s not easy to pull this sort of thing off, and kudos to Kate for doing so!
August 25th, 2008 07:40
alsgal,
You’re not really surprised by that are you? Most of these people are simply jealous of Kate and don’t like that she gets to live a life they’ll never even get close to having. And I’m willing to bet the people doing the bashing have never volunteered one minute of their time to anything or raised a dime for charity.
August 25th, 2008 07:52
We won’t know how much work she did unless one of the committee members talks, usually on a comittee. There are few who do the bulk of the work. We do know they are complaints of her not rsvping a wedding and other charity invovement asksM that is not good and leads to speculation that perhaps she doesn’t ever lift a finger. I think wlls would be better off with a girl who has been trained well, and knows how to rsvp, and not touch herself constantly in public. An aristocrat like dianas upbringing would be best. Kate just doesn’t have upper class skills.
August 25th, 2008 07:52
Nikki,
I agree. I hate to say it, because I don’t like to start any sort of member bashing, but I do think there is an element of jealousy when it comes to KM, and I almost think it is now occurring with certain members of the press. Notice how much Katie Nicholls looks like Kate (dark haired attractive brunette, about the same age I’m guessing?) — if that’s not the green eyed monster then what is it? Sorry, Katie Nicholls, but Wills is spoken for, and no matter how much you take Kate down, William loves her and she will be his bride, the mother of future Kings or a little Queen.
Whatever Kate M can do to help others is wonderful, and those who say she’s doing it only for show should take a long look in the mirror and ask themselves what they’ve contributed to the world — I really do agree w/ you there Nikki.
August 25th, 2008 08:13
As I have said before, I do not like the statement: “They are jealous”. I think it is very unfair and a rather silly thing to say because nobody here nows the people. You don’t like it when people bash Kate so please do not bash the other members.
BTW: just for the record, I have been volunteering for nearly 2 years. Just saying that so when I argue that Kate should have a job, nobody says that to me.
August 25th, 2008 08:26
Nothing is silly, as you may notice here and in other royal forums, people are entitled to say that. Why would you then call the people who like Kate, worshipers. Don’t you find that an exaggeration as well ? So haters are jealous too. I’d think its fair square for both parties.
August 25th, 2008 08:27
B,
That’s good for you but given the amount of time some of these people spend on these Forums and sending emails to Katie Nicholl I cannot imagine they can find much time for meaningful employment or volunteering, much less an actual social life involving non-cyber buddies.
Me, I have no life, no job and my family are far, far away. I’ve volunteered maybe thrice in my life, for the Kittens for Convicts group at my church. It was depressing as hell, so I quit as it’s easier to write a check then clean up cat urine. But I don’t bash Kate. Righteousness is tedious, and Kate can pretend to be one of the people, but let’s face it, she’s in the top 1% by virtue of her birth, and no amount of charity work changed the fact that Diana still went home to a Palace every night and fussed at the housekeeper for not cleaning properly.
All that man o’ the people crap is for show, some just make it more convincing than others. Some are luckier then others, that’s just how life works.
August 25th, 2008 08:34
I’m sorry that you do not have a life or job and your family is not near you.
But at least Diana was doing something and that is all we ask of Kate as she does not have the problems of a lack of family support.
All I am asking is that people do not just say “they are jealous” without even knowing who “they” are. I think it is a childish remark as it says that there is not a better answer to give to them and just shows that the person who says it cannot accept that different people have different points.
You and I alsgal know each other from the Internet Forum (I’m not sure if you know this and you have said that I am a fair poster before), but I would be less willing to post if there was a possibilty that people would not discuss my arguements and ideas but would just label me as a jealous woman. Let us all just debate topics without letting our arguements get too personal.
I mean it when I say I will leave if I feel that this does not improve.
August 25th, 2008 08:36
“she’s in the top 1% by virtue of her birth”
What do you mean by this alsgal? That she is in the top 1% of luckiness or wealth? I would disagree with both actually.
August 25th, 2008 08:40
Nothing personal B, just saying its fair square - that you have said worshipers and the others, who ever say jealous. Thats all.
August 25th, 2008 08:43
I’m a little confused Me about that comment.
I was only mentioning the people who are called jealous yes, but I do feel that to call someone a Kate “worshipper” is unfair as well. Is that clear? I know I did not say that but it was not relevant at the time. I never call someone a worshipper or a hater and I am very careful not to. I have said that some people call people worshippers or hater and I dislike it when they do. I think we are just a group of people who like to discuss the RF and have different opinions which is great.
I hope that is clear for you.
August 25th, 2008 08:47
Yes, we all have written hear as like in other royal forum’s. I am guessing, you too LiW. Sometimes people need to momentarilly move on, but no bad feelings okay.
I have read your posts, all interesting.
Take it easy girl, read your personal posts again to Alsgal, that’s not nice at all.
August 25th, 2008 08:48
Point taken B but the arguments DO get very personal and nasty against Kate, someone I do not know and will likely never meet.
If we must be fair and give other members the benefit of the doubt, then we must give the same to the subject we are discussing.
William might dump Kate tomorrow, so all this discussion and trashing of her reputation would have accomplished nothing.
If they do beome engaged, I am certain that PW and the RF are not so out of touch that KM will be allowed to sit around eating bon bons. She is simply too young to get away with that.
The BRF have a history of seeming to go off course PR wise, then self-correcting after hearing public opinion. Look at the Queen during the Wales school disaster in 1966, again after August 1997.
If Kate marries into the RF, she will eventually toe the line. If she doesn’t marry William, her life will remain her business.
Those who like Diana might do well to read some of the magazines from 1982, 1983 when she was written off as an airheaded clothes horse who listened to Duran Duran all day.
People can change, and they do grow up eventually. Why not be friendly and tolerant of them while they do?
August 25th, 2008 08:54
B,
With all due respect, I don’t care what you like or don’t like. You spend your time here criticizing Kate and her choices when you know nothing about this woman other than what you’ve apparently chosen to believe from Katie Nicholl and the Daily Mail’s so called journalists. The ones you seem to admire so much for their truth telling and hard work. So I’ll continue to express my opinion on this forum until I am told otherwise by the site administrator.
August 25th, 2008 08:59
No I’m not LiW at all.
I’m sorry if it came out being personally and thank you for highlighting it Me if it was but I do get annoyed when people are stereotyping posters. I have left forums before because of that and the only reason I argued back here was because I do like you all (even more so when we all get along) and I enjoy this site.
I agree alsgal, the arguements do get personal towards Kate and I do not agree with that any more than I agree with people calling other posters jealous. I did not mean to direct it personally at you, it was just the comment you made, made me feel I had to make that comment. I had to make that point because some people were getting too personal themselves.
Finally my posts were not aimed personally at anyone they were just a reply to the posts already made and I feel that everyone needs to check their posts in future including myself and some other posts above were getting very personal and they were not just by me.
I think that we should try to be fair as alsgal said that was my main point.
August 25th, 2008 09:01
Yes, always friends
I thought you where, since a long time ago you did a copy paste of a posting of her in the other site to here.
Back to KM
So she will be doing this charity event, everyone wanted her to do or start one, and now hard critisism. Won’t win, will she.
August 25th, 2008 09:02
I don’t criticize Kate for anything other than her lack of job and that topic comes up a lot. The only reason I criticize Kate for her lack of job is because I have been there and I have had a very similar lifestyle to what Kate has been having for the past few years. I regret it all now and wish that I could change it. I am willing to give Kate a chance and when she marries William, I will be there cheering despite the fact that I feel she has wasted several years of her life. I like her but some times I disagree with her conduct.
I’m not asking anyone to change their opinion, I don’t want them to. This would not be an interesting place to post if we all thought the same. But whilst we are on the topic I am what could be called Kate neutral.
August 25th, 2008 09:04
Thanks Me. Friends
No she won’t. I hope she does do the charity thing just to show that she can do something and is willing to do. It will be an excellent start for her work as William’s wife.
August 25th, 2008 09:09
Does anyone know when this charity thing is taking place?
August 25th, 2008 09:12
http://tinyurl.com/63ynps
Ouch! I thought it was a bit harsh.
August 25th, 2008 09:13
Me,
I think it’s a wonderful thing for Kate to help raise money for these 2 charities. She’ll probably raise more money in that one evening than I’ve given my whole life. And it looks like they won’t have to spend much to put on the disco so most of the money can go to help the kids
August 25th, 2008 09:16
The Katie Nicholl article contradicts so many actual facts that as with anything from the DM I wonder how much can be believed.
Is the roller disco thing confirmed, or is this another attempt to make Kate look like the Dancing Queen?
It says Kate “has not had a full time job since quitting Jigsaw last November” but according to the owner Belle Robinson herself, it was not a full time job, it was only three days a week so KM could accomodate PW’s training schedule.
So I ask, even with things we know are true, if they can’t get even the basics right — Party PLANNERS anyone
— what IS actually true?
August 25th, 2008 09:21
It was embarrassing to read that mistake alsgal. I agree, party planners! :O I think the idea may have been around 45% true, that some people do not like Kate not having a full time job. Whether this stretches to the Queen, I don’t know and would not want to say.
She will help to raise money which is great and the fact that she can invite our Princes is even better. Some may say that is using connections, but it is for a good cause so I say go gal! (P.S. I’ve never said “go gal” in my life- not sure if I can pull it off…lol
)
August 25th, 2008 09:37
If you thought the Interent Forum was bad you should check out Royal truth. It’s bad. Worse infact. They bash Kate all day long. Bet Katie Nicholls goes there too for ideas. But seriously it is ouch!
August 25th, 2008 09:45
I could imagine, all those people whom had to move on, banned, IP address error (banned too) had to post their anger in such forum. Smarty guy who opened that site for the rejects.
August 25th, 2008 09:49
Yes alsgal the Roller Disco is confirmed and it’s all for charity. I hope William & Harry can make it. It does seem to be like a great idea. Can’t wait to see pictures of that event.
August 25th, 2008 10:05
Rman, is it just my imagination running away with me, or could the roller disco charity event be an opportunity for William and Kate to announce or confirm their engagement? BP announcement in the a.m., followed by this in the evening, a sort of kick off, if you will, for Kate as the next HRH? Fun and very modern, I think.
I also wanted to say, I don’t appreciate the snarky tone KNicholl seemed to have when she wrote something to the effect that all Kate is doing for charity is a roller disco event — I really do not appreciate KN’s sarcasm and devaluing all that Kate is doing with this.
I’d love to see K Nicholl show up in her day glo outfit and her skates with the little pink pom poms doing her bit for sick children — and then we can take the pot shots at her.
August 25th, 2008 10:19
I doubt it alsgal although it would be fun and modern. I would have thought that Kate would want to keep quietly out of the way on the day of the announcement, after all the press will go crazy for it. If she out and about she may find it difficult and uncomfortable.
Lots of people who know Kate and William work with the charity; holly branson, anna sloan, someone even said Willem (Kate’s old boyfriend), so she should find lots of support and friendly faces there.
BTW: What role does she play in the charity? Which topic has the link? I’m getting lost :S Is she a patron or a trustee or just a volunteer? I was wondering because I wanted to know how involved she is with the actual charity. Is she just supporting it? Organizing the charity? Just organizing events or does she actually work for it? I’m not sure what the different roles entail.
August 25th, 2008 10:26
B, I can’t help you here as like I say, I’m not big on the charity work save for cleaning the cat pee a few times.
Let’s not forget, so much good can be done just by raising awareness, just by lending one’s mere presence that even if Kate is not actually giving money or organising anything, there will be good done.
I also disagree with what KNicholl said about Kate never having done anything charity wise — FACT: look at her involvement with the Lumden Society while at Uni.
She wasn’t publicly involved with PW then, and yet she CHOSE to participate. I remember reading they raised upwards of 100-200 pounds at their various parties, all for good causes. Sure they had a good time too and drank at least that in the donated Pimm’s — hey, I would have too, given the chance — but awareness was raised, and that is always a good thing!
August 25th, 2008 10:35
Oh yeah, it will good for her to do anything within the charity to help it. I was just curious as usual. Thanks though alsgal.
What’s the Lumden Society?
August 25th, 2008 10:40
I knew that people would think Roller Disco disingenuious and that it was just a PR move on Kate, CH/BP/RF part. She can never win! I don’t think it would have come across this way if DM had not printed the recent story, which I am sure that was the intention- to steal Kate thunder. But I think Kate is doing this because she was asked to do it by either CH/RF or William. So Ked saying they might break off seems unrealistic at this point to me anyway. I like Kate, but she is who she is now because she dates William. Her relationship with him is why those charity will be sold. I mean nothing calious about this. Kate image is no where close to that of Camilla when she married Charles. But I do think that Kate seems to look like she has more fun with Thomas Von S and does not have to be as guarded like she is with William. I think too she would probably have a more rewarding life w/o the glare and the expectations of being apart of RF and being compared to Diana. If I was William I would be a little jealous of Thomas cause he makes Kate laugh and he is wealthy as well.
August 25th, 2008 10:47
and gorgeously cute !
August 25th, 2008 10:50
B,
I believe it was some sort of social club at St. Andrews — lots of girls from good families “Lone Rangers” I think they’re called, who got together to socialise and whilst doing so, would donate the entrance fee to charity. Very forward thinking, I think for young girls to get together and think about those less fortunate than themselves. I think one of the charities was a women’s crisis center in Delhi, India or something. Obviously, Kate and her friends couldn’t be expected to up and go to Delhi to deliver the 200 pounds themselves — that would be silly — but it proves to me that they at least cared enough to say, “Hey everybody how about this next Friday, instead of just having fun, let’s let do something where it will also benefit someone else, maybe even someone far away who we’ve never met?”
So, at least 100, 200 students got together and raised 200 pounds after expenses. A cynic might say, that’s nothing — 1 pound per person, big whoop. But I’m no cynic, B — I can see these were young ladies and gentlemen starting to think about their place in the world and what they could do to make it better.
This will bode well, this altruism if you will, for life in the Royal Family.
August 25th, 2008 10:54
plus the fashion catwalk - which she participated and was not the only girl doing it, was all for Charity. This charity in SA is done every single year.
She has also worked during her SA years as a bar tender, she also worked during SA vacations in a high social club at IoW.
No one, but her and closest people know why she quit Jigsaw.
August 25th, 2008 11:01
Exactly Me, although I hesitated to bring that up because it inevitably brings up the whole “she was only doing that to get William’s attention whilst wearing a bikini” allegation, yada yada yada.
FACT: It did benefit charity and yeah so what, she was asked to wear the lingerie or whatever because she’s got an Amazing Figure. That’s Amazing with a capital A. Being that svelte has never been my problem (I’m 122 lbs. over the BMI obese minimum weight) but like I say each time I wear something low cut that shows off my Kerry Katona-esque puppies — if ya got, work it!
August 25th, 2008 11:10
its a bunch of yada yada, until those who make those snarky comments find out who the other girls where - participated
They’d have to put their praising of these other SA girls, whom by the way are PW inner circle friends you know where. I’ll get the list again, hang on.
August 25th, 2008 11:13
Cool, thanks girls, I didn’t know about all of that.
August 25th, 2008 11:28
Let’s face it Me, even if William dug up the corpse of Mother Teresa herself, and dated a 90 year-old nun, there are pople who would then say, “Gee that Mother teresa isn’t very attractive is she? And does she wear anything besides white with blue stripes?” So there are people who are not going to be happy with PW’s pick no matter what.
Myself, I’m ready for a Royal Wedding and have even begun to study the manual on my VCR, which has been blinking 12:00 am for seven years now.
Only thing that worries me a bit is what they will do about the unfortunate combination of the bride and groom’s initials, WC? Since the Royals often use the entertwined initials, I am wondering how they will work around this. Thinking the K might be better to use, although I assume she will go by Catherine formally. Any thoughts?
August 25th, 2008 11:39
I don’t know how you guys let Katie Nicholl’s bother you. She just like to write silly suff. I don’t see William nor Kate worried about what she writes and they are going about their business.
August 25th, 2008 11:43
Good luck with your VCR alsgal. My partner got me a new DVD player last Christmas and I still don’t know how to use it. Lol
DM is just a tabloid, I take everything from there with a pinch of salt and an open mind. I think they are only right about 40% of the time. I trust the broadsheets.
August 25th, 2008 11:47
Rman, I understand what you are saying but it’s because the crap she and the other Gossipalists write gets picked up by slightly more credible news services which then purport her silliness as truth.
Before you know it, we’ll have many members of the British public and Commonwealth nations believing that Kate is lazy and workshy, when it’s obvious nothing could be farther from the truth.
That’s why I fight and defend Kate, and never hesitate to comment and write letters of my own to the editors.
Like I’ve said elsewhere, the Telegraph, Majesty and Hello! are the only credible sources for me anymore, besides here and RA.
August 25th, 2008 11:49
Thanks, B just saw your post. I’m no techno genius but even I know it’s not 12:00 am ALL THE TIME!
August 25th, 2008 12:23
I hear you alsgal, I’m on Kate’s side too but I just get so tierd of the silly, pointless, and wrong articals.
August 25th, 2008 13:14
Hello everyone,
My comments about Thomas were posted slightly with tongue in cheek but also because on two of the three times I have seen KM at a distance of less than a mile it has been when she was with Thomas or Thomas and others.
To me, whilst virtually and rudely looking on , KM was very attentive to him and seemed to hang on to his every word. Obviously PW wasn’t present so perhaps she felt safe with such an old friend close to her anongst a vast crowd.
My sister was with me, and will probably want to kill me for saying this, but did comment that if she hadn’t known who KM was she would have placed them definitely as a very close couple tuned in to one another
I have known about their friendship since 2003/4 time and at the time of a earlier split with PW I did think TvS was involved. However that was obviously not the case but I do wonder if PW is slightly apprehensive where TvS is involved as KM’s face, smile and demeanour seemed quite genuine.
The other fact that prompted my comment was that I do not feel KM thinks she has the full support of certain high ranking Royals with PP high up that list. To my knowledge I don’t think he has ever acknowledged her but obviously hasnt had many (if any) public contacts with her.
These are only my thoughts brought about by observations on very limited occasions and not in any way intimating any impropriety on eithers part.
Thomas is obviously a close friend of PW and KM and there is a great trust and fellowship between them.
August 25th, 2008 15:07
I’d rather see Charles become King first, it’s his right, and he has obviously seen more than William has-it would put less pressure on both him and Prince Charles.
August 25th, 2008 15:11
I do not get why Charles should be surpassed either.Do people honestly want William’s children to basically grow up without their parents because they’ll be busy representing the UK? Why not give William time to have a family and see his children gow up before he takes on the “top job”. He can still be a great youthful King well in his 40th.
August 25th, 2008 15:25
Hello,
Methinks the Star is trying to outdo the DM for outrageous stories.
The possibility of PC standing down for PW is as remote as the stories that HM would be standing down for PC some 5 or so years ago.
Whoever started that story has forgotten his history lessons.
A King, is a King, is a King.
Monarchs throughout the ages have killed,lied, and fought for their thrones and our present ruler and her offspring are and will be the same.
A King does not give his throne away, despite the former POW, and Charles will become King when his Mother dies, and PW will become King when PC dies and not before.
Any other scenario is against all they believe in and once crowned they remain crowned until they die.
Hence the appointment from time to time of a Regent who will act if the sovereign is unable to act through illness, senility or in the case of an infant Monarch,until he reaches majority.
More rubbish for the bin
August 25th, 2008 15:27
Kate wants you to think she can’t win - and she does as little as possible - all while hoping non critical thinking brains will think she is great - when really she does nothing and offers nothing - not even a good body to look at
August 25th, 2008 15:44
I totally Agree, fjae.
August 25th, 2008 15:47
William must like her body enough!
August 25th, 2008 15:57
I think that Kate having Charles support means alot. He managed to get what he wanted and eventually married Camilla. So I don’t underestimate him. I think it would be difficult to make Philip like anyone unless your blood runs blue. Perhaps the reason we no longer see Thomas Von S with Kate when she goes out to events lately is because William see what we see when she is with him. Of course Kate looks like she has a good time with Harry too, but who wouldn’t? I wonder where Kate and William are? Saw pictures of Harry on top of Buck Palace for Olympic Party, but no William. Maybe they are with the Queen at Balmoral and now that Olympics is over they will announce engagement? Probably not!!
August 25th, 2008 16:04
Charles has proven over the last few decades that he’ll make a good king, not great or like QEII but a fine one. He does an excellent job as Prince of Wales with his charities and he’s very prepared for the top spot. The only problems I see for him going forward are Camilla and his tendency to speak out on certain issues.
August 25th, 2008 16:54
Yes, Nikki, I agree those are probably the only two major hurdles he faces. While I do agree with many of his positions, as King it is my understanding he must remain (publicly at least) above politics. But I do beleive his heart is in the right place with many of these issues.
All members of the BRF do such a lovely job promoting Britain and the Commonwealth day in and day out. I have just rewatched the Monarchy at Work documentary and really, who wouldn’t be proud to have these wonderfully devoted souls as their RF? I adore the lot of them, really I do.
August 25th, 2008 17:03
Very true Nikki, spot on.
I imagine that they will want to give any new royal couple the chance to settle in and for children to grow up before giving them more responsibilities.
I have no idea when the engagement will be now and I dare not say. Ked does have a point about Kate being very close to TVS and them appearing to be a couple but I think we should be careful not to read too much into it, instead to just remember it just in case.
My main reason for thinking that a Christmas engagement will be too early, or at least from the evidence I have at the moment (a lot can change in a few months), is that William will be busy over the next year and they may want him to settle in before helping Kate settle in as a Princess. After all we cannot have the blind leading the blind (old English saying), it would not work. Also, whilst I believe that they are in love and are happy I still think that Kate is more ready for marriage than William is at the moment. I think he needs to mature a little bit more first- they do say that men mature later than women.
I haven’t really seen any support from Charles other than what I would expect to be given to a girlfriend. He invited them to the party, as they would accompany the Princes and it would be “a snub” to them if he did not. I would hope that he did support and respect his sons’ partners though.
BTW: funny story for you- I had a very strange dream last night where William did announce his engagement at Christmas but it was not to Kate at all. Completely wrong I know but it did make me smile when I woke up to think that it would be rather amusing if that was the case; it would be a bit of shock. Of course, dreams don’t mean anything and that one was just completely off the mark but I thought I would share it with you for a laugh.
August 25th, 2008 17:06
I adore them as well alsgal but I could only enjoy the charity side of it. Whilst they are devoted to the job (the Queen especially) I would never want it. That documentry was good though wasn’t it? It gave a real insight into their life and made me respect the Queen a lot more for seeing just how much work she really does behind the scenes.
August 25th, 2008 17:15
B, I think the fact that Charles allows William to bring Kate and her sister to Klosters shows that he thinks highly of Kate. Let us not forget when he was photographed with Kate while she was hunting/shooting in her camo gear. I am sure that if he loved his boys he would not want them to make the mistakes he has made, marrying someone that he did not truly love, although William and Harry were a product of that marriage.
August 25th, 2008 17:23
Yes that is a good point gracie, but then so many parents invite their child’s partner with them on holiday now. I think that for Charles not to it would have again been a snub. William and Kate were at the holiday first anyway when they went skiing so maybe it was the other way around, they invited Charles along. Any ideas here?
All I am saying is that the actions I have seen between Charles and Kate are those that are often between young women and their partner’s parents. I had a boyfriend before my current partner who is the father of my child. I dated him for nearly 8 years, went on holiday with him and several times with his parents and I was very close with his parents. However, at the end of the day, I became pregnant and he, with the support of his parents, left me and our unborn child.
William I know will never do this so it is an extreme example but my own life shows that a serious relationship where there appears to be that a sort of support by the man’s parents is not always truely there. At the end of the day, Charles would support William and I think that he would offer advice but I do not see him sitting down with Kate for long periods of time to support her.
I think he supports her as a girlfriend and that will not change until William says he will marry Kate.
August 25th, 2008 17:50
B,
I’m so sorry to hear that — just when one thinks everything is moving along, bam! life throws us a real humdinger.
Sometimes I worry about William and Kate as well as they seem like a comfortable pair of fuzzy slippers, obviously at ease with each other and in love, but indeed things can change so I guess we all have to stay on guard for that. Just because a couple are together for a long time is not a 100% guarantee, look for example at Colleen Sullivan, the news anchor from the US who left her BF of 11 years — 11 years! — for Lord Spencer, the late Diana’s brother. Only to be dumped by Spencer a year or so later.
On that note, I noticed that Lord Spencer flew to South Africa at the end of July to comfort his daughter Lady Eliza over the death of her BF, Chris Elliott. Anyone have any news? I missed this somehow. Apparently a car crash took his life, so sad.
August 25th, 2008 17:53
alsgal,
I did mention it here as I was told about it the day Charles left the UK
August 25th, 2008 17:59
Hello,
I note that the McBeth twins, merrick and fjae are mouthing off again.
If they are so critical of KM I am sure they must have figures like super,super models ?
How I would love to see photographs of the two fat ladies on here.
August 25th, 2008 18:08
Ked, TY and pity I missed it.
Did someone say pictures of fat ladies — lucky for you all I have no bloody idea how to upload photos of myself.
August 25th, 2008 18:09
Hello again,
So much to say, sorry for multiple posts but don’t want to mix up the sublime with the ridiculous.
I think that Charles approves of KM and has demonstrated that many times and has shown her great kindnes.
At Balmoral it has been mentioned above that he took KM under his wing when teaching her to shoot. I think he felt for her that weekend as PW did ignore her and had very little to do with her and she travelled home alone.
Also when PW neglected to ask KM to dine with his step mother and family before Christmas ,PC refused to go at the last minute which was considered very unusual at the time.
August 25th, 2008 18:11
alsgal,
No offense to you but I’m sure you knew what I meant!
August 25th, 2008 18:16
B, the RF are a different kind of family and not all girlfriends accompany Charles and William on vacations. I see royal relationship like a prymaid, with levels and girlfriends have to go through so many levels before they reach the top. Lord Spencer will never be King and William will. So William can not be a careless as other members of his family. That is why he will marry Kate, she has passed to many levels for him to back out now w/o seriously damaging his image which is pretty fragile at the present. Who does TVS date, you never see him with a girl.
August 25th, 2008 18:21
Ked, do you know that Charles declined to go because Kate was not asked? Maybe Charles likes Kate company too? That does seem rather strange that Charles would do that when Camilla was going. Who is your source on this? I would think that Camilla would not think to kindly of Charles not showing for Kate.
August 25th, 2008 19:03
I don’t Kate nor Charles was able to go. But we may see them all go out to dinner soon. I don’t think it was much to it Ked.
August 25th, 2008 19:12
Gracie that is an interesting question. No, I’ve never heard of Tom mentioned with a girlfriend but that doesn’t infer anything against William. Tom’s Uncle William VS is the 50 + year old bachelor, who in addition to being a “platonic escort” to the late Princess Diana, also treated the two Princes and Tom to a strip show last year. Bachelor at 50 eh? Probably because he hasn’t found the right woman yet (and never will, I’m thinking, much like my own son won’t.
) Not that there is anything wrong with that — but yes, it’s interesting. TvS is most handsome young man, and will surely make some young woman very happy, if that’s the way he goes.
August 25th, 2008 19:35
I’m sure Kate has dined with the Duchess of Cornwall & her kids on several occasions. She was at the wedding of Laura Parker Bowles and Harry Lopes a few years ago. As well as Camilla’s 60th bday party. And I’m assuming Camilla was there when she and William were at Birkhall. They looked very comfortable with each other at the Garter Ceremony. As a matter of fact Kate looked like she had met Sophie before too. They didn’t come across as having just met each other.
August 25th, 2008 19:51
Forgot to add Laura Lopes showed up at Kate’s exhibition Time to Reflect to support her.
August 25th, 2008 21:23
Yes members of the royal family knows Kate and have known her for quite some time.
August 26th, 2008 01:20
Chelsy attended the London carnival.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1607035.ece
August 27th, 2008 12:44
On the assumption that William Principe had not official and a girlfriend, has to choose a girlfriend foreign country to which he should choose?
1: UNITED STATES = because the U.S. is beautiful, with great attributes and rich.
2: JAPAN = because the punctuality and combine with the seriousness britãnica.E would be nice to have a Windsor trait with Asia.
3: BRAZIL = William should forget the past (ana laise) and seek a fine between these women because the spontaneity Brazilian count points in favour of royalty, and even his girlfriend could have lessons with Lucia Flecha de Lima.
August 27th, 2008 12:51
Out of the 3, I would have to say an American girl just because of the Prince and Me. Lol
How do you think everyone would react to a new girlfriend? Do you think the press would like her or dislike her? Do you think the people here would like her or dislike her? Interesting to think about it sometimes even if I don’t think it will happen.
August 27th, 2008 12:53
I think she would be given a chance to prove herself - just like waity was.
I think it would be a very good thing for him to play the field a bit and see that it is waity that he wants - afterall waity will wait - even after she gets dumped - as seen the last time he dumped her
August 27th, 2008 12:55
Hey, don’t forget The Princess Diaries, she’s American too. :p
August 27th, 2008 13:00
Forgot about those Apryl, whoops! that’s another American Princess I like (even if they are both fiction). I bought those books recently for my cousin, she loved them.
August 27th, 2008 13:11
I like them, too, although I have not read any of the newer books.
I forget if there are any others about American princesses.
I dunno, I think it would be kinda cool if he dumped her again, William and I are only a week apart *shrug.* It seems like he would be bored with a huge wedding like that.
August 27th, 2008 22:39
Tom has been dating Melissa Percy since May 2008. Melissa is the youngest daughter of the Duke of Northumberland–very, very rich. (Her brother George roomed with Pippa Middleton at uni.) They made it official on Facebook sometime ago…and Tom has already stayed with her family at their Alnwick Castle (you may know it better as Hogwarts from the HP films) this summer. Tom and Kate were friends prior to Kate dating PW. That’s why they are always together more so than other people in that group (besides Tom and James Meade are PW’s bestfriends).
But anyway…Tom has landed a very very eligible girl in Missy. Done quite well for himself.
August 27th, 2008 22:43
Oh, and Melissa was in the pictures at PW’s birthday polo outing at Beaufort–she was the blonde wearing the pink (I think it was) long-sleeved shirt and puffy vest and ballcap. She was talking to Kate in the pictures alongside the car when Kate was adjusting her underwear…
August 28th, 2008 05:43
i thinked that PC and PW will be great king of england!