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Wills and S-Kates roller call – News Of The World
Royal girlfriend Kate Middleton has told Prince William to get his skates on . . . but not over the long-awaited marriage proposal. Instead the princess-in-waiting wants Wills and his brother Prince Harry to join her at a charity roller- disco, which she is helping organise in aid of sick children and youngsters in deprived areas…
Harry vows to Philip: I’ll cut out boozy Boujis nights – Daily Mail
Prince Harry has vowed to tame his party lifestyle and promised there will be no more photographs of him falling out of nightclubs. Harry, 23, who has been a regular fixture on the party scene, has even pledged to limit the amount of time he spends at his favourite nightclub, Boujis in West London. He had a series of frank discussions with his grandfather, Prince Philip, before leaving for Africa…
Philip refuses a state funeral at Westminster Abbey – Daily Mail
The Duke of Edinburgh has drawn up secret plans for a private funeral at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, and has declined the offer of a State service. The 87-year-old Duke – who enjoys general good health despite having a heart condition since 1992 – will be interred in the mausoleum of Frogmore House at the private Home Park in Windsor Castle, where Queen Victoria and her husband Prince Albert are buried…
Queen wants Kate Middleton to get charity job – Daily Mail
The Queen is becoming increasingly concerned that Prince William’s girlfriend Kate Middleton still does not have a job. And senior Buckingham Palace aides say that what is now referred to in the Royal inner-circle as the Kate Problem should be resolved before William announces his engagement to her…
August 24th, 2008 06:56
I genuinely believe these stories of “Queen wants Kate to get a Charity Job” actually translates to…
“We, the Media, want Kate to get a job and do charity so we can follow and snap pictures of her on a daily basis and therefore sell more papers.” Because really, this girl does sell papers. And without a Diana, with William busy training and Harry abandoning his party image, there’s no one to follow on a regular basis.
August 24th, 2008 07:49
Oh I totally agree with you, dagsi. The media is frustrated by the lack of cooperation on Kate’s part and on the part of the BRF. It has been six years and they are chomping at the bit. Believe me, once that rock hit’s “waity Katie’s” finger, these morons will be falling all over themselves to get an interview with the future princess/duchess. They are so lame.
August 24th, 2008 08:34
Lisa,
I think the DM is already out of the running for an engagement interview. And from the looks of it they don’t have any real sources anymore either. It’s amazing that all the other tabs manage to get new stories, true or completely made up, but Nicholl & co can’t even pretend to do real reporting. Did you notice they got the name wrong of the Middleton business? It’s Party Pieces not Party Planners.
August 24th, 2008 08:43
Nikki, Katie Nicholl and her hack writing should be an embarrassment even for a rag like the DM. I saw how she got the name of the Middleton’s business wrong. I don’t think facts really matter to her or the DM. Every weekend like clockwork there is some article about Kate. EVERY weekend. So obvious they are trying to sell papers. The other article in the paper about Harry and his partying at Boujis is just as silly. The royals sure do sell papers over there don’t they? LOL.
August 24th, 2008 08:50
well, why all people in this world have a mind for purpose somebody after candidate bride already have a job! if they won’t have a job it’s mean refuse for purpose! it’s like matrealistic people! it’s not make comfort for me at all, if Catherine Middleton someday become Royal Family, she’s just to accompany her husband in every duty of Royal right?? not working at office! or maybe in people eyes not good if she’s still unemployed! sorry this is just my opinion okay.
August 24th, 2008 10:25
Well, I think that too much is being read into a lot of the stories. Admittedly, I have been away and only came back yesterday but to me it is just the same stuff that has been written time and time again. I doubt that the DM is frustrated or angry that they MIGHT marry, why should they be? IMO, they are just printing rumours and are adding to speculation.
August 24th, 2008 10:36
What’s the logic behind Kate “working” the couple of month till her supposed Christmas engagement anyways? The article is full of contradictions. Not only does Clarence House apparently give Kate adivice contradictory to what HM wants since they tell her not to take on employment whereas the Queen desperately wants her to work, but its “solution” to the “Kate problem” is complete bullocks as well.
August 24th, 2008 10:39
I found the official website for the roller coaster thing. So this is defintiely true. Catherine Middleton is listed in the organising committee.
http://rollerdisco.org/
August 24th, 2008 10:41
Contradictions — exactly Trixie! The article itself is full of contradictions. That was precisely the four syllable word I was searching for that escaped my slightly inebriated and elderly brain this morning.
Katie Nicholls cannot even keep the story straight within a single article she has written.
August 24th, 2008 12:04
I have a question for you all, why is it that everyone here can criticize an article for saying negative things by saying that it is untrue but then say that the positive (announcement at Christmas) must be true. Why can it not be the other way around?
Just to give another view on the matter ^^^.
Technically it is not full of contradictions anyway. Doing charity work does not need to be a full time thing and there are no reasons why she should not do it. However, there are many reasons why she should. For Kate, the benefits of doing some work are greater than the costs. Besides, charity work is the only type of work the article states that she has to do, as a member of the RF she would continue doing this. Although, her position within the charity would adapt. It would be beneficial to her to represent a charity which she already knew about and had worked for. It would show a deeper appreciation for the work that the charity undertakes.
August 24th, 2008 14:07
B, if that was directed at me I was just pointing out that the article doesn’t make sense in itself not that I believe that Katie Nicholls of all people knows when William and Kate intent to announce an engagement. The charity thing is just a new twist to the same old – the Queen wants Kate to do something story.When it should read the press wants Kate to allow her picture taken more often.
Clearly if HM really expressed any such wish, Kate would have been President of the Red Cross, Unicef and every other charity asap! It’s curious that Katie Nicholls apparently wasn’t even able to find the public website for the roller skate charity – a proof that Kate does something and is not sitting at home on her bum eating bonbons 24/7 like some tend to believe. Kate Middleton is in no position to do any public charity work for anyone. She is not royal and hence cannot take over a patronage or something like that. And if she volunteer in private, we may not know about it so that it won’t affect her public image.
I agree with the idea that this is just the press trying to force Kate to come out of “hiding”. It was so much more convinient for them when they knew she’d leave her Chelsea flat every morning to go to work so that one could take her pic and make some sort of story out of it. That’s much harder now.
August 24th, 2008 16:25
It was not directed at you personally Trixie just at a lot of the comments.
HM isn’t asking her to be the patron of charity X, Y and Z. My partner and family isn’t asking me to be the director of the legal firm that I work at but they do want me to do something (now after a life very much like Kate’s if not worse) and to do well. All anyone is asking of Kate is to just do something. If she worked 3 days a week again I would not mind because it is better than nothing. If she just worked several evenings a week with some children in an after school club; my opinion would dramatically change. It does not need to be public, I work at my god daughters school one evening a week. It is not a lot but it is something and that something will be enough to prevent Kate from being criticized.
KN has never added websites in before, why should she start now?
August 24th, 2008 16:26
She can’t be a patron now but she could work with a charity, show an interest then become patron. That way people would know that she was really committed to the cause.
August 24th, 2008 17:29
Some people will criticize Kate no matter what she does. The people who are against her now won’t all of a sudden start praising her if she did everything they wanted her to do tomorrow. They’d just find something else she isn’t doing right and harp on that. Did these same people love Kate when she worked at Jigsaw 3 days a week. Probably not. What I find amusing is some don’t realize they have no right to ask Kate Middleton to do anything- she isn’t a public person. She is not yet supported by British tax payers in any way. She has every right to live her life in whatever way she chooses. I could see if she was actually already married and refused to perform her duties. But she isn’t. And as the Kate haters constantly tell us William will probably never marry her anyway so why does what she do with her time matter to them at all? The criticism Ms Middleton gets from some quarters really burns me up because I’m just not a judgmental person. There is nothing I’m doing that is so freaking spectacular to the point where I would feel comfortable demanding Kate meet my personal standards. And I suspect those who have such a low opinion of Kate aren’t doing anything that special themselves either. Now if those who are anti Kate were working with orphans in Africa, finding a cure for cancer, or raising millions of dollars for charity that would be one thing. However, the vast majority of those who are critical of Kate, like Nicholl/the DM hacks, aren’t any better than she is. Which is what makes it all so laughable.
August 24th, 2008 17:38
That maybe the case for what some people call Kate worshippers and Kate haters. But then there are people like me who are willing to change their opinion if Kate gives me a reason to. I began to like her when she took up that job, I even felt sorry for her when she was dumped. But her lifestyle since has been such that the only praise I can give her is that she is discreet. I am sorry that that is the case. In fact most of the public are more like me than either of the two extreme groups that I mentioned above. Most people are willing to give Kate a chance and would like to like her but she is making it hard.
People say that as gf of PW, she is still private and she is, but only to a certain extent. By dating him and by having a public relationship, she allows herself to be open to criticism. Don’t you think that the public should be able to discuss the bad as well as the good of the person who may become the Queen? She chose to date PW and therefore she chose to accept the consequences; good or bad.
The people who work at the DM all have jobs and work hard, nobody can deny that. Therefore, they are already better than Kate in one aspect; they have a real job.
August 24th, 2008 18:06
WOW!! The Daily Mail hacks have real jobs and work hard? Let’s see what all their hard work has produced over the last few months:
1.) The Queen would be hosting Carole Middleton at Ascot
2.) William had a gym built at Clarence House for Kate
3.) Innuendo about William & the blonde who is supposedly going to work for him
4.) Prince William is moving back to Clarence House to delay his engagement (from Rebecca English) but Katie Nicholl claims the engagement will happen over Christmas
5.) Charles and Camilla are living separate lives
6.) Katie N claims the Queen wants Kate to get a job but then is contradicted by her colleague Richard Kay a little later. At least they’re all on the same page now.
7.) Copying and pasting a story almost word for word from the Internet Forum
Yes, if only Kate Middleton had a real, respectable job like them. Good God.
August 24th, 2008 20:02
No one is “better” than anyone just because they have a “job.” Some of the worst people in the world have jobs and I wouldn’t want to breathe the same air as them.
This job thing is an excuse to rag on Kate Middleton solely because she’s seriously dating the heir to the throne and appears to be living a charmed life. It’s been about that from Day 1. It’s ridiculous.
August 24th, 2008 20:06
Because when Middleton was employed the attacks only heightened. This girl could take a bullet for her country on a battlefield and those same whiners who blast her for not having a job would condemn her for daring to bleed on the battlefield.
Really many of us who read these daily attacks on Miss Middleton are not stupid and know green eyed envy when we see/read it.
August 24th, 2008 20:10
Every day it’s the same thing…who does she think she is, if we have to work, she should work. Well she’s not like most of those who have to work. Her parents are rich, she doesn’t have to work, and doesn’t. That doesn’t make her stupid or immoral or a criminal. It makes her extremely fortunate to have choices.
Kate Middleton if you or anyone you know reads this, don’t change a thing. Date William, relax now, enjoy your freedom, because after you marry him I’m sure you will do a smashing job representing your country beside William.
August 25th, 2008 00:16
I agree guest, I respect her even more for not changing a damn thing. If she marries William she may have to listen to public opinion somehow but for now it’s HER life and she does with it what she wants. The comments in the DM are even worse than the “article”. Most of these well informed quarters seem to forget that Kate not only worked for Jigsaw but that she also does not receive ANY money from tax payers at all – neither does William. Hence the constant harping about either of them wasting tax payers money on vacation is just b/s. So even if Kate went shopping as much as they claimed – which she simply doesn’t – the only ones who’d have any sort of right to complain about it would be her parents since she’s “wasting” their money.
But it’s exactly that envy for those who have more than yourself that sells papers. How dare the girl being lucky enough to be born in a millionaire family without an obligation to work for a living and on top of that date the heir to the throne. Scandalous! :rolleyes:
August 25th, 2008 05:10
so, my question the DM exactly knows when there engagement be? rather than PW and KM. another, why prince philipp thinked his funeral? about PH it is good that he already promised his grand pa that he will not anymore visit clubs.
August 25th, 2008 06:45
The only damaging thing about these types of articles is that they grow legs and get copied all over the world. If you google “kate Middleton” you will find dozens of papers running the Katie Nicholl piece word for word all over the place. That is truely sad and the palace or CH should put a stop to it,IMO. I am really looking forward to oct when Williams new press guy starts. Maybe he can make a difference.
August 25th, 2008 07:02
Lisa, sadly there is nothing that can be done but fortunately, Prince William and Kate have been advised to ignore this garbage and get on with their lives, which is what they are doing.
August 25th, 2008 07:15
I feel certain the new Dream Team starting in October will put an end to the constant ripping of these two in the press, as they have the professional backgrounds necessary for PR management unlike Mr. Pinkerton. I am sure JL Pinkerton is a lovely man and means well, but let’s face it, as an ex-SAS man he is probably better suited for throwing smoke bombs than issuing press releases. So I am really quite excited about the new crew, and I am looking forward to seeing how they will best showcase the Prince and later on, Princess William of Wales (and we do know who that’ll be!
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August 25th, 2008 07:15
It is true that Kate does not have a job and it is true people criticize her for not having one. If this article is true, why should it not be printed? And when it is printed why is it unfair? Kate chose to date PW and therefore she chose to accept the baggage that comes with him. She must have known that she would be criticized for something, every girlfriend of a royal is.
How can you say that CH should stop it when you insist that she should not be criticized for being a private citizen?
1) she is a private citizen but the media has the right to report on her life (there is no law against it) as she is dating PW and there is a demand for information.
2) If you insist she is a private citizen, you must accept that she stood up for by CH. The only way she could have support from CH is by being a 100% public figure like PW or PH. It is not possible for her to have it both ways and there is no legal grounds for CH to stop the article. If there was harrassment or continual invasion of privacy that is one thing, but these articles are merely saying that KM is being criticized for not having a job.
Please do not say that if a person has rich parents she/he does not have to work. If that was the case I would never have to lift a finger in my life. In fact I didn’t for 4 years and became a shallow, selfish young girl (I was 16-20 at the time) because everything I wanted was given to me. I did not have to work for anything. By working now I have self respect, I feel worthy, I have achieved a great deal (one of my proudest moments was when I was praised for doing a good job for the first time by my employer, because it felt so good to hae achieved something on my own). I was a clever girl and did not put my brains to good use. IMO, if a person is clever, has the ability of make a difference and doesn’t, then that person is being selfish,t here are people out there who struggle in their education and are unable to achieve a lot despite the fact that they want to. For someone who is clever not to even try to achieve, it is just such a waste. Having a job is not just about earning money, it is about helping, and achieving.
I doubt that there are that many people who are envious of KM. I’ve been on a lot of sites and spoken to a lot of people who have very different opinions. 99% of those people who dislike Kate have a better reason for doing so other than jealousy. There is hardly any reason for people to be jealous apart from those who want to be a princess and let’s be honest, how many adult women want that? Most men and woman are happy the way they are as they are loved and have happy lives.
BTW Nikki: May I say that I think it is rather insulting to all those at the Daily Mail for you to say that they do not have a real job. Becoming a journalist takes a lot of work especially to reach a national paper. The DM is a tabloid and bases it’s stories on speculation not necessarily fact.
August 25th, 2008 08:24
B, it is not proven to be true, you just started your long paragraph IMO wrong. And since you are basing your opinion basically on Katie Nicholls articles. Then you should perfectly know that KN said that KM works for her parents.
August 25th, 2008 08:40
yes, I know that Me, but it appears to me that every positive article is always said to be true on here whilst negative articles are said to be untrue. I was not talking specifically about the current article in that comment but about articles in general. That’s what the IF was for.
August 25th, 2008 12:53
alsgal,
Do you know if Jamie Pinkerton will stay on as William’s private secretary after the new team comes in? It seems like he’ll need new staff. Other than Helen Asprey I’m not sure who else currently works for William.
August 25th, 2008 13:40
Nikki,
I am speculating that JLP will stay on as Private Secretary to the Princes, and that this new Dream Team will function as Press Secretaries. It would make sense to me that as the Princes roles are expected to grow over the next few years, that the number of staff they have will grow as well. Put simply, the more they do, the more help they will need to do it.
It is my sense that perhaps some of the ball dropping PR wise that has unfortunately gone on, might simply be due to the fact that JLP is not press savvy, nor was he ever expected to be.
The appointment of the Dream Team is the Princes way of saying, We Are Prime Time Now.
August 25th, 2008 13:50
alsgal,
The puzzle with the new dream team is that it is almost entirely PH orientated with possibly a single exception.
It could be that this is a very temporary arrangement as PW may be expecting to ‘move on’ over the next few months and will then hopefully require a new ‘household’.
August 25th, 2008 14:24
Ked,
With all due respect, may I ask why do you think it’s PH orientated?
Somehow I thought the Dream team were set to be a permanent addition, part of PW establishing his own staff. Also, I was under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that PW is set to move back into ChuckandCam Palace aka Clarence House after he finishes in the military.
It would seem to me, the perfect place, if Charles is at Highgrove, and Camilla is at Ray Mill, for two young newlyweds to have the run of the place.
August 25th, 2008 14:42
alsgal,
Won’t there be too many egos under one roof with Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, and Harry living at Clarence House? And I can’t see the Duchess of Cornwall wanting to share the Mistress of the House-no pun intended- title with Kate.
August 25th, 2008 15:06
Nikki,
but really, I don’t think that’s but one more ego than is already residing there officially now.
I see what you mean
Kate has shown herself to be a very flexible and easygoing sort of person, so she doesn’t seem to me that she’ll start pulling rank once she is officially in the RF. Camilla seems more the country type, so I think she normally doesn’t spend much time at CH, I believe?
It is one large house. I would imagine they can all come and go as they like, and may never even run into each other except in the main hallway.
Also, they have so many homes that it won’t be the same as having everyone stuck under one roof all the time. It seems certain that William and Kate will have a country estate of their own, so perhaps they will spend quite a bit of time there.
Where else would be a possibility — any thoughts? Could they have a flat in BP? Kensington Palace seems a bit of the sad choice, I would think, not too sure about which other Palaces would be available.
August 25th, 2008 15:12
Both Ked and Alsgal have a point with the dream team. There where 2 articles, first one described the dream team, both from PH’s Sentable and the other guy a War press expert from the military (he did PH blackout, Afgan, PW thought it was cool), and the 1st article said that both boys are going to use this dream team. 2nd article biased PH, dream team to be only for PW.
Confussing, third article describes the PW what to do list this year, apprenticeship next 2 years, thus gives the impression as some to many say, no wedding.
Now a 4th article plus all the silly ones there may be an engagement announcement Dec or Jan 2009 for a wedding may or june 2009.
August 25th, 2008 15:32
Me,
Thanks for attempting to clear that up as it is sometimes feels we are forced to wait for the papal smoke signal here from CH. Naturally, we all try to read between the lines so to speak, as so many of us here are pulling for the KM/PW nuptials to be finalised.
Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking, but couldn’t PW continue to learn the constitutional workings next year whilst married to Kate? I could think of nothing more perfect then a young man going back home after a long day at Whitehall, to a nicely baked shepherd’s pie (we’ve seen her carrying one, or at least a large casserole type dish) and I cannot think of a better time for him to marry then 2009.
August 25th, 2008 15:35
doubt it highly – he is way off marriage
he has been with this girl for YEARS and no engagement – I really don’t think their will be a wedding for at least 2-3 years – and hopefully not to her – she is a tacky lower class ‘broad’
August 25th, 2008 15:55
Me,
I’ve never been able to figure out those articles about William’s full time duties next year. I know in The Telegraph version they stated those plans would be released by Clarence House within a few days. It seemed like they had gotten an early look at what was going to be put out there. But nothing ever came from CH. And if I’m not mistaken the 2 new press guys haven’t been officially brought on board yet either. So maybe we won’t get a fuller picture until the new people are put in charge this fall.
August 25th, 2008 16:03
Fjae, I really think calling Kate “tacky, lower class broad” is accurate. Lower class to me is Katie Price, Pamela Anderson, etc. Kate’s family on her father side does have ties to the royal family and I am still trying to find out if Kate is related to Camilla lineage. If Kate is low class, then where can I sign up!! I would love to be lower class.
August 25th, 2008 16:04
meant to say not accurate
August 25th, 2008 16:10
fjae, which royal house are you a member of? The only thing low class around here are your comments.
August 25th, 2008 16:47
From my POV, Kate is from what we call a pretty fancy schmancy family
One that has behaved with more grace and dignitity than most so-called aristos IMO.
August 25th, 2008 17:08
I think fjae meant from a lower class than William’s which she is after all. She is middle class (upper middle at most), he is upper class. Maybe fjae is of the opinion that William would be best of marrying another royal from one of the other houses or at least from the aristocracy?
August 25th, 2008 17:34
B, fjae usually writes with obnoxious wording. Example: Broad: Usually Offensive slang – promiscuous woman.
Give me a break.
August 25th, 2008 17:42
Guys,
Why do some of you bother replying to fjae. All she (maybe it’s a he, or what the heck, maybe it’s an it) is trying to do is stir up trouble.
Go on the websites that it (meaning fjae) usually splashes veom and you will see that there haven’t been to many posts from fjae in the last little while….could it be that there was some sort of ban?
August 25th, 2008 17:55
Fjae, that is interesting how you feel about Kate but William has picked a great woman and that is all that matters. The Royal Family don’t care much about class these days. Look at Autumn Phillips, she comes from a family that is not high class and she once worked at a bar. The royal family only cares about if the person is level headed, dutiful and is able to put up with all the trappings of royal life. Diana may had personal prolems with her marriage but she was one good Princess of Wales and did a lot for country. We are currently in the process of knowing Kate and when she comes out in full force as William’s fiancee and wife, we will see more of how she will help out the Monarchy. I think William & Kate will stay at Clarence House until the wedding and after that they will probably move to St. James’s Palace. There’s room at Clarence House for them at the moment. But St. James’s Palace is likely to be their London base after marriage.
August 25th, 2008 18:05
Level headed — tick that box!
Dutiful — tick that box!
Able to put up with the trappings of Royal Life — tick that box again!
Indeed you are correct Rman, the RF are not snobs, hence we see Sophie Wessex and Autumn Kelly making very successful Royal brides. Kate will follow and may well become the greatest asset to the Royal Family in modern times.
St. James is a likely scenario to house the newlyweds then? Do any of the RF ever think about going to Hampton Court — would it be possible? It looks so attractive in the photos.
August 25th, 2008 18:20
It does look nice but I think Hampton Court is not a good idea. It’s a place for tourist now.
August 25th, 2008 19:34
I wanted to shed some light on the situation about the new Press Team that Wills and Harry will have working for them. According to the articles about the team who will be working for Wills and Harry, Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton will continue to be the Private Secretary for both Princes, and Helen Asprey will continue to be the Personal Assistant for both Princes.
The two new guys are not Prince Harry’s PR team or Prince William’s PR team, they are the PR team for BOTH Princes. William and Harry have made the decision to have a joint office located in St. James Palace, and a joint team to work for them. I realise that isn’t the way things are normally done, but Wills and Harry have already done something unique when they created a joint foundation for their charities.
The City Salute idea came out of that Joint Foundation, and so did the Cycle for Life project which benefited the Tusk Trust and Centrepoint.
Wills and Harry’s new joint office will be located in St. James Palace, but I hadn’t heard that either of them is planning on living there. I think the St. James location is a nice location for them to have their joint office, it’s very close to Clarence House but it’s still in a separate building from their father and Camilla’s offices. By setting up office in St. James Palace, Wills and Harry have a joint separate office location that is all their own, and there is no logical reason the St. James joint office couldn’t continue to be their office even when Wills and Harry get married. It’s a great central office location, and no matter where the princes choose to have their main residences, they can do their work out of the St. James office when they’re in London.
Sounds like they thought of a nice plan. The best part is they have a joint office and a joint charity foundation.
August 25th, 2008 19:51
Oh I meant she is lower class in birth and action a hideous combination. William deserves an aristocrat, not this common, obvious social climbing, tart.
August 25th, 2008 20:35
Not only do you insult Kate, but women in general with the use of your words.
You must really be disturbed just typing the word tart. I have always wished you well, but you seem to get worse by the day. So much anger is not good for your health.
August 25th, 2008 21:20
I think it’s fantabulous that Harry and William are having a joint office together and it sounds as if St. James will be a place they can call their own — terrific news and I am looking forward to seeing what the new Dream Team will be unveiling as it seems likely lots of new events and maybe even some new patronages will be announced in the next year or two.
Any thoughts here on where they might land in terms of a London base after they get married, though? It would be neat if they could stay together then too, much as they are doing with the joint offices at St. James!
August 25th, 2008 21:34
Well William & Harry did live with their father at St. James’s Palace during the late 90s. Charles’s office was there before they moved to Clarence House. There is a part of the Palace called York House. That is where they lived before going to Clarence House. But their London base will be a royal residence.
August 25th, 2008 22:01
No me kate has insulted woman the world over by refusing to work and use her god given talents, and to wait for a man who she feels will finance her, sick and backward and common and really really twisted
August 25th, 2008 22:17
It’s possible William and Harry could have separate apartments at St James’s Palace. Or maybe Harry and his wife could stay on at Clarence House. Kensington Palace is another option for W&K. But obviously not in Diana’s old apartment. I would say Windsor Castle but I don’t know if HM allows anybody other than herself to stay there. Or maybe the Queen will give them something like Bagshot Park. Now that place is huge!
August 25th, 2008 23:14
Carla, probably not a ban. Many of the most obnoxious Kate haters from that one royal message board of old migrated to the other new Kate hater site that was begun a few months ago. Most of the haters just swim in their own cesspool in those few places, but a few pride themselves on going to other royalty sites like these, where decent people talk, to stir up….s…ewage. They are the same people who spam Daily Mail and The Sun comments sections with their nasty responses to any and all articles featuring Kate Middleton. If for no other reason William really should propose to this girl so that she gets police protection. Because a few of the more rabid haters I swear I truly believe are mentally disturbed.
As for the rest of that lot, just like teeth, ignore them and eventually they’ll go away.
August 26th, 2008 00:11
FJAE – What is this deep, disturbed hatred you have of Kate Middleton, a woman you have never nor will ever meet or know? Go spout your sick remarks on some other site. They’re not even points of view – just pure, nasty hatred!
August 26th, 2008 00:14
FJAE – you must really hate women!!! To call a young woman “a low class broad” is so demeaning and nasty that I think you have a few screws loose. No one here wants to hear your garbage – shovel it somewhere else.
August 26th, 2008 02:11
Jade, I think it’s best to ignore comments from posters like those. They perfectly illustrate what Guest explained from the post above yours. I have learned to laugh them off… they can truly be amusing.
August 26th, 2008 04:17
I think the best policy is just to ignore posts you don’t agree with – healthy debate aside, please don’t get worked up to the point where you feel the need to blast back at someone. It doesn’t do anyone any good.
August 26th, 2008 04:27
Excellent advice Steven. I’ll remember it
August 26th, 2008 06:34
Hello Steven,
I have tried to ignore these two particular posters who seem intent upon getting their vile comments onto BRW in the hope they will be picked up and printed elsewhere.
I have failed to shame them into stopping but have difficulty ignoring them.
jjae in particular is particularly course and vile but her comments are similar in to another poster many months ago but with a different name.
Also Merrick enjoys any attack upon KM and now seems to think its her personal crusade to blacken KM and her family’s name and reputation.
It’s not really on is it ?
August 26th, 2008 06:51
Steven,
While I feel strongly that people be able to voice their opposing opinions, I fell it is out of line and fiercely inappropriate to call someone a “low class broad”. Those sorts of comments offer no meaningful exchange and only serve to incite others. An” agree to disagree” atmosphere is one thing but out and out mud slinging is quite another.
August 26th, 2008 07:24
I too like the idea that they have a joint office. Besides the Spencer family, William and Harry are sadly all that is left of their mother. I hope that they will continue to be close through out their lives and that their children will be close as well. Joint office makes since if they are trying not to create any rivaly. Rivaly is heathy in small doses, but if allowed to get out of control can ruin a relationship. I hope this does not happen to William and Harry.
August 26th, 2008 07:27
Mudslinging is what they do best. I repeat it is a concerted effort by a few disgruntled people from those hater boards who travel from forum to forum and comment at various online tabloid comment sections, mainly The Sun and The Daily Mail, disparaging Kate Middleton and her family. They troll online community websites like Facebook to steal photos, share them with each other, some of which have made their way to the tabloids. From the day Kate Middleton graduated St. Andrews they harped and harped nonstop, every day, about her lack of employment until finally the tabloids picked up on it. When Kate got a job from Belle Robinson they continued their attacks. Proof that the harrassment has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Kate works. They smear Kate, they smear her parents, especially her mother, and they smear her siblings with the same vitriol and hatred.
I used to believe these posters were delusional with grandeur in thinking that even a lowly tabloid writer would stoop to read their filth, but apparently I have been wrong. “Waity Kaity” was first termed by one of those posters at one of those royalty message boards.
These vitriolic posters are young women close in age to William and Kate–including Fjae, whose screenname I immediately recognize as a poster at at least two sites–who apparently have the need to smear someone who has done absolutely nothing to warrant this slander.
So I will continue to expose the tactics of these posters until people begin to call them on their behavior or these tabloid writers ignore their garbage. And think about other measures to put a stop to this nonsense.
August 26th, 2008 08:03
I’m with you Guest, one thing is to agree/disagree in a cordial posting environment, other is too use abusive terminology – mudslinging.
I felt totally offended when this kind of people refer to any woman as a tart (offensive: prostitute or promiscuous woman).
August 26th, 2008 08:11
Comments made to the Daily Mail are moderated and if somebody comments too many times or if there is anything suspicious about it i.e. lots of alias’, they do not show the comment. They are plenty of comments that are not shown yet are sent to the DM. I refuse to believe that there are people who would waste their time sending in those comments. They have no reason to and in fact the comments I have read on the Daily Mail appear to be by a variety of readers. As I said the DM ensures that the same person does not send in a comment too many times.
I have read many forums and am a member of many and must confess that although there are some people who are members of lots, it is very rare and I have never met anyone who purposefully joins a forum just to smear KM.
I have read very few smears against her mother, most people feel sorry that she was called a “social climber”. The only negative comments I hear about Pippa or James are those relating to the photos of them where Pippa was wrapped in toilet paper and James was dressed in female clothing. For them to say that is immature behaviour is understandable IMO.
I can’t see why it is a problem that somebody picks up on the fact that Kate has not got a job and says that they do not think it is a good idea or appropriate in this day and age. These forum posters are merely saying their own opinion and get very annoyed when the press copy what they are saying without their permission. In fact, it was true that Kate did not have a job for all those months so why shouldn’t a reporter decide to publish the information? Must they only publish positive things?
I’ve said this before and I will say it again. I don’t like it when people call us “Kate worshippers” or insist that we are unable to see the bad of Kate, just as much as I dislike it when people call other people “Kate Haters”. I think both names are unnecessary and only cause problems between posters. I am trying to say this politely but it has become an issue recently where people just seem to be pointing a finger and saying that they always think well of Kate and refuse to believe anything else or that they always think badly of Kate and are horrible people.
Can we follow Steven’s advice and just let the comments which we do not like slide. I think it will be much easier for everyone that way and I hope to continue to enjoy posting here with you all.
August 26th, 2008 08:12
Completely agree with you there Me. I didn’t see your comment before I posted.
August 26th, 2008 08:17
Poor guy, I feel sorry for him. He should be able to dance whenever he wants to and not feel embarrassed. Dancing is meant to be for fun.
http://tinyurl.com/635jdw
August 26th, 2008 08:24
I think dancing lessons are cool, if the article is true, you may go from worse to good, from good to excellent.
August 26th, 2008 08:47
Hello B,
Nice post B.
Wish I could be so diplomatic.
.
August 26th, 2008 09:14
If it helps William grow in confidence it is a good thing for him to take dancing lessons. I just feel that it is a shame that in the mean time he is too uncomfortable to just have fun. It sounds like some of his friends went over the mark and funny jokes turned into mean remarks about his dancing.
Thanks ked. I was worried that it would be taken badly as it was not meant to be. It can be hard to be diplomatic just in text when you can’t see the person.
Thanks,
August 26th, 2008 09:42
I agree.
Unfortunately B, everyone’s idea of what is a funny or harmless joke is different. I always liked the old adage, that if one person says something to you, and both of you laugh, it’s a joke. If the receipient is not laughing it’s an insult.
I hope these young men don’t get too Hoorayish and will remember that PW is their future King and that far more will be expected of him than of them.
I get the strongest sense, after watching the Monarchy at Work videos, is that William is perhaps lacking in natural confidence. Harry seems to have it already, but William will need to develop it. He can do it, but it’s just going to take time and encouragement.
August 26th, 2008 09:57
B, why do you insist that Kate does not have a job, working for the family business in not a job. I disagree when you say its a “fact” that Kate Middleton does not have a job. Because there are articles that say she works for Party Pieces. Thay In Your Opinion you Think that it should be discounted as a job is another story. You see, your posts may also distort based on articles, because we all give our opinions based on articles. Only if you are friends with Kate and know for a fact that she doesn’t work.
August 26th, 2008 10:49
Today, I read on one forum that they were going to say “William pays for Kate’s clothes,” because they want to see if it will be picked up in next week’s news items. They didn’t mention which paper they were aiming to get published in. But I think we here have ideas on who it could be. They, these bloggers have caught on to the fact that their blogs are being printed in tabloids, so now they are making stories up and plan which lies to spread!
August 26th, 2008 10:51
What do you guys think of Harry’s military figure? They are not saying it’s him but the baseball cap and facial features are a big tip off!
August 26th, 2008 11:38
Kate is being financed by her parents NOT paid to work, her picture taking ended months ago.
August 26th, 2008 12:08
I was referring to articles and not pictures, which say in writing that KM works for Party Pieces; Katie Nicholl, The Telegraph (Holly Branson, but mentions KM working hard for PP).
So my question just to understand the posters who say its a “fact” that she doesn’t work, when there are articles that say she does, for the family business.
August 26th, 2008 12:14
The military figure does look like Harry and it looks good. Kate has her own money and there may be times William buy her things. It’s perfectly normal for her boyfriend tobuy her clothes. Charles bought Camilla clothes, paid for her protection and driver before they married. Like I said before, no one should have a problem with her working privately. It’s safer than when she worked in the open public at Jigsaw. Since she quit that job, things has been running smoothly for her. Fjae, I do ignore your comments but you must understand that this woman has done nothing to deserve such negitive comments. She has done everything the Palace advisers told her to do and she hasn’t put a foot wrong. This is a very happy time in her life that many women also enjoy. She got a good man by her side and both are happy so don’t rain on their parade. Wish them luck instead because with this media age, things won’t be easy.
August 26th, 2008 12:23
Who really cares who buys her clothes? I mean really? I would wager to say most boyfriends who have the means, buy things for their girlfriends. It’s a nice perk
I think he should buy her anything he wants! For those who think Kate is the definition of evil because she does not have a job in which she can be followed daily and photographed by the paps, I totally believe that William does not want her working in the public which is why she quit her job to begin with. That and to study royal protocol etc so she is prepared for her role after their marriage. That is far more important and relevant to the public then Kate working some 9 to 5 job so the paps can get paid.
August 26th, 2008 13:11
Guest,
Let me just say that although I don’t often post comments or voice my opinions, I am also a regular reader of other forums and find your sentiments absolutely real. Harmless horseplay is one thing, but it’s another thing to purposely devote waking hours trying to destroy someone, make fun on their family, and get picked up by the press. And I truly believe there are a few unbelievably devoted trolls out there. I only wish I had the same energy to counter them. But alas, I keep my dignified silence. Please know, though, that I’m with you
August 26th, 2008 13:54
Lisa, don’t you get it? If someone else pays for Kate’s clothes, it obviously shows a lack of character on her part. It’s almost up there with being a drug dealer or convicted murderer — or maybe it’s even considered worse because at least the dealer and the murderer showed some initiative in doing something, whereas, dontcha know, Kate is just sitting around all day long waiting for that ring.Tweedle dee dee.
Yes I am being facetious
August 26th, 2008 14:15
Me, do you have evidence that she is working full time for her parents? If so please share it. I was under the impression that all had been reported was her moving a few boxes and taking some photos. After all, if she really did have a job there would not be these articles would there?
BOT: Every guy buys his gf clothes give the girl a break on that aspect please!
August 26th, 2008 14:22
Ahh, pressed submit too quickly!
…I think every girl deserves to have clothes bought from her sometimes and I would not expect Kate to be able to afford all the expensive gowns and dresses, after all it is not her fault that comes with William. I am a little critical of her getting them for free but then so do a lot of celebs. As long as it is not all her clothes that does not matter. I don’t agree with a woman living off her boyfriend. It’s differnet when people are married because there is a stronger committment there but before marriage it’s not something I approve off. I think it ties a girl to an man and every woman should have her indenpendence. (P.S. ardent feminist- probably why I would like for Kate to work).
August 26th, 2008 14:42
I don’t care who buys her clothes either, I was just stating that other forums have admited to making things up just to see if it gets in the press. Some of you may be aware of this, I however was not. I still don’t get why people have issues with Kate working with her parents business though. The RF is a FAMILY made up of royals that have a business called the monarchy. To say working for your parents is not a real job, is an insult to family run businesses that have made an impact on the livelyhood that some take for granted. The number of family run corporations are endless- Ford, Heinz, Astor, Trump, Rockerfeller etc. Party Pieces employs people and contributes to the economy and probably makes alot of kids happy! If Kate takes the photos like they say she does for webpage, why does that not constitute work? They are lovely pictures and it is hard to make an imanimate object look appealing and she does that. The childrens photos are beautiful and full of life! Anyone can take a photo, but not everyone can be a photographer. I took photography class for two years in high school and it is not easy to take a photo that is emotional, or provokes emotion. Kate does that in her photos just of kids wearing costume running in the yard. That is talent. But don’t knock her because she works for her parents, because that IMO is a poor excuse.
August 26th, 2008 15:16
B, darling OUR only evidence is WHAT IS WRITEN in the PRESS, so you see when you say its a FACT that she is not working YOU ARE WRONG. The press has said SHE IS WORKING FOR PARTY PIECES.
Everyone knows
August 26th, 2008 15:18
You haven’t read those articles, then you must look for them. Perhaps to much DM has your opinions biased to KM must look for a REAL job. They consider that working for the family business is not a job.
August 26th, 2008 15:19
I’ve made a decision and I’ll put it out there as a suggestion for all of us – IGNORE ANYTHING FJAE HAS TO SAY!!! He/she/it is a meaningless, angry, sick little person who obviously needs to get a life. So let’s let FJAE slither away because I realize now that if you ignore people like this completely, the eventually tire of not getting any attention, even negative attention, and end up crawling back into their holes!
August 26th, 2008 16:23
Me, I want to say this nicely but I must ask that you do not call me darling as I do find it very patronising. Thank you.
We must be reading these articles in different ways as I have only read that she has done odd jobs e.g. photography and carrying out boxes not that she is working full time. Perhaps you read the articles in a different way.
Either way, we can agree to disagree and leave it there, it’s too late for me to debate this. I’m tired, looking after 3 toddlers today has worn me out …lol.
Oh and gracie, I think that there is nothing wrong with working for the family business. If I did I would be insulting my entire family. But my family works very hard all day, every day of the week with the business and as I said above I get the feeling that Kate is just doing odd jobs which is fine if she is doing a lot of other stuff I just don’t know what other stuff she could be doing.
Thanks and Good night everyone, Sleep well (for all those who it is night time at the moment) and Good Morning for everyone at the other side of the world..lol
August 26th, 2008 16:41
No, not so, you haven’t read the telegraph article where it clearly stated that KM works very hard in PP
Have a nice sleep, I hope that was not patronising – wishing a goodnight !
August 26th, 2008 16:44
Anyway, since you just said odd jobs, that is work, so it is a FACT that…just wanted to correct your phrasing when previously you had said it was a fact that she has “no job”. I’m not trying to act smarty, just giving my point of view, when you wrote that piece of “it is a fact that she doesn’t work, no job..
Coolness is all, happy day.
August 26th, 2008 16:45
Not to keep dwelling on the job issue but I just don’t understand what the problem would be even if Kate didn’t help out her parents. Looking at the women in William’s social circle do all of them have careers? Whenever I’ve read anything about Rose Astor (Hugh Van Cutsem’s wife) she’s always described as the daughter of a landowner. I have no idea what Jecca Craig does for a living either. Holly Branson has left medicine to go work for her father. And I’m sure she won’t be treated like the average Virgin employee. I wonder sometimes if Kate were Lady Kate Middleton & the daughter of some aristocratic duke would anyone notice or care if she had a job or not.
August 26th, 2008 17:05
I can’t figure out the thought processes of some of these people who post the negative stuff about Kate. Pat of me thinks it is pure jealousy because a plain old non titled girl who is not drop dead gorgeous, covered in makeup and jewelry with a large bra size managed to capture the heart of a prince. Some of the posting are simply delusional. A few on another board actually agree that PW treats Kate like a “drinking/party buddy”. Makes you want to zap them into a fly and place them on the wall of a certain room in Will’s house for a bit,lol…but I digress….Hopefully William and Kate ignore the rubbish and carry on with their lives. I can’t imagine doing it any other way.
August 26th, 2008 17:15
Nikki and Lisa,
You ladies are right on target……..took the words right out of my mouth!!
August 26th, 2008 17:16
Excuse me, Lisa, I agree with your post but I must strongly disagree with you on one point: many of us here DO think Kate is DDG!
My Al was my drinking buddy in college and he’s my drinking buddy now. Nothing wrong with drinking and making whoppee. Fun is fun, and life needn’t be serious and duty filled all the time.
Kate and William are only 26. There will be plenty of time for them to mature into serious and steady 80 year olds like their grands are.
Don’t forget, Prince Philip was quite the fun party boy in his 20s, we just didn’t have CNN and all the celebrity type shows covering every moment of every celebrities life back then!
August 26th, 2008 17:18
Nikki, I agree. Some of the girls in the aristo world don’t work, some even look down on it. Yes most go to elite boarding school and then go to ivy league colleges and then they don’t do anything with their degrees. That is where the term socialites come from. Holly did get medical degree though and I think Jecca has one in anthropology. So why pick on Kate? Envy. As I have said before she has a job at Jigsaw partime, but then people complained she takes off alot for vacations, etc. If the Queen really wanted her to get a job that pleases the public, she would. But her working complicates her life and the boss she would work for. She would need security, then people would want to know who’s paying the tab for it. Her parents have money but they can’t buy her the security she needs and her bosses won’t pay for it. It works out better if she works for her parents.
August 26th, 2008 17:39
Well, here we go with another slam Kate article, this one in the Sun by Jane Moore.
The only thing I tend to agree with is that that she says William must p*** or get off the pot — either make an honest woman of her (Kate, not Jane herself) or let her go.
While I don’t think William should be rushed, he is putting Kate into a bit of a tight spot it seems, particulary as he is the one rumoured to be dragging his feet, not Kate.
August 26th, 2008 17:56
Blah Blah Blah…same old same old. maybe Katie Nicholl is moonlightling at the Sun,lol…
Take it with a grain of salt. This article was clearly taken from the DM and the good ole Internet Forum.
Besides the Sun makes the Daily Mail look like the New York Times
August 26th, 2008 18:10
It does sound alot like Katie article, but Sun has basically said what alot of us have said. William needs to propose to stop her and her family from getting trashed or let her go so she can while she can still hold her head up! That is why I don’t believe prolonging an engagement two more years would be very wise, because William reputation will go down as well. Maybe this is the lead up to the engagement announcement so Sun can say “look we told you so.” I don’t think Sun’s to be as hateful as DM though. What was with the hen story below the article?
August 26th, 2008 18:19
i think Kate and her family will be fine. I don’t think they will wait two more years. I think given the higher public profile the family has allowed Kate this year, an engagement is coming soon. My guess is oct based on a nearly non existent schedule for any of the senior royals and the entry of the PR guy for William. I am betting that guy is being brought on to handle all the post engagement press. JMO.
Remember one thing ALL these articles will be blown off the face of the earth by ONE historic press release.
August 26th, 2008 18:29
I just read that artical and I’m shocked that The Sun would write something so bold and frank. I truly believe an announcement will come soon and the media need to back off. My God, that was just too bold of them.
August 26th, 2008 18:30
That’s right Lisa.
August 26th, 2008 18:36
Lisa, that makes perfect sense that the Dream Team are coming on board just as the engagement will be announed. They would also be able to help Kate establish her Royal role, and advise her which sort of causes and patronages would be suitable given her age, interests, etc.
An October announcement also makes sense timewise, as everyone will be back from Balmoral then, I think?
August 26th, 2008 18:39
Jealousy? Of that non-descript common girl? Please! Of someone worth jealousy but this donothing waity kaity nope! Why do most of you spend your time slagging off other forums? Why don’t you practise what you preach and stop with the neagativity of other forums…it makes you seem petty and JEALOUS and probably you believe to some extent what they are saying or you wouldn,t be saying anything at all.
August 26th, 2008 18:44
no one here is jelus of Katie … 2 be jelus we’d have to want to be her, which i don’t … she’s dating a bald guy without a real job … laughable military work experience … unlike harry who went to Afghanistan … Willy was bustin’ the dope sugglers … yeah, whatever …
August 26th, 2008 19:06
So Jane Moore
1. Takes the comments of Kate haters on the web as indicative of public opinion.
2. basically reprinted the nonsense in Katie Nicholl’s Sunday hit piece in her own column just using different words
3. Then concludes with the actual truth- Kate is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. But she contradicts everything she just wrote in the previous 2 paragraphs by defending Kate.
Can’t say she’s as bad as Nicholl. She would need to crank out at least 4 or 5 more beauties like these to get that distinction. And she did actually conclude the column with something resembling the truth.
August 26th, 2008 19:18
Uh oh. We’re being treated to the new William Isn’t Really All That Great Game the Kate haters have invented to make themselves feel better. Yeah that bald guy is nothing special. He’s only going to be the King of England, inherit a $600 million fortune, live in multiple castles and estates, and keep his wife in precious jewels and couture dresses for the rest of his life. I’m sure the anti Kate teeny boppers boyfriends will have all that and then some. I mean who would want to be King when you can be assistant manager at the local Burger King?
August 26th, 2008 19:23
I just read the article, she clearly wrote an article saying the truth of HER sources, which is a mix of blogs, comments, sites, and Palace officials (grey men).
Not bad at all, why because she is down to honest of her sources – information to write that article.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/jane_moore/article1610755.ece
August 26th, 2008 19:24
Yup and kate has her eye on that prize…
August 26th, 2008 19:25
So yes Lisa, Jane Moore is moonlighting Katie Nicholl, but with a HUGE difference, Jane is actually slapping Katie Nicholl in the face with the HONEST TRUTH of where she got her SOURCES to write such article – my post above.
There you see a smart journalist.
August 26th, 2008 19:41
Jane is no better a journalist then Katie. Katie Nicholls, in her “What do you do” Mail article quoted some readers who left comments on the Daily Mail website the week prior as being “Tracey from Paisley” and “Sara Ruiz from England.” Same two people Jane quotes, and the same two of about 15 who usually leave quotes at the DMail.
August 26th, 2008 19:42
fjae,
You sooooooo remind me of Jenny that use to troll this site. By the way, she has gone to a happier site………..
August 26th, 2008 19:44
Yes, true she quoted, but she doesn’t admit where the quotes come from, Katie Nicholl calls these quoes Friends, Royal Sources, Palace Insiders, when we have discovered (in another site) word for word taken from an X poster !
Jane at least wrote her article admiting each part from where she got each quote.
August 26th, 2008 19:49
KN attributed the TP and SR quotes to the DM website, where they were first posted.
August 26th, 2008 19:51
I think its a wake up call to the RF about the consequences of carrying the engagement announcement longer. I agree with Roman though I was really shocked about how she put it out there. Lately the Sun has been getting some exclusives and they tend to not bash like DM. Perhaps they know there is an engagement and Jane is saying stop beating around the bush and announce it already. I am wondering if it could happen before Kate does the Roller Disco. It does say Catherine Middleton and not Kate. Where the RAF ceremony said Kate Middleton. But that could just be me reading to much into it too.
August 26th, 2008 19:53
Regardless of the content or the sources, it’s still the Sun,lol. They should stick to picturesl.
August 26th, 2008 19:57
Gracie,what this mostly boils down to is that these papers and magazines will make mucho denero when the announcement drops and they can smell it coming. 750 million people watched Charles and Diana wed. More will watch William and Kate wed. Lots of cash out there for the taking. It’s all a money game. These “writers” don’t care about Kate or William. They want the revenue the engagement/wedding will rake in.
August 26th, 2008 19:57
They broke first the break up news
last year.
August 26th, 2008 19:57
I read somewhere recently that the announcement will come shortly before or after Christmas. I’m thinking perhaps after Christmas.
I see backup has been called. Some new arrivals have landed at this site. I recognize the screen names. LOL
August 26th, 2008 19:59
The smiley is just a reminder that all the rag tabs have broken news as a first. I just wanted to give my opinion on the “how’s” of Jane Moore’s article, her style was impecable describing exactly where her sources are from with no shame at all, meaning blogs, comments, posters, and grey men.
August 26th, 2008 19:59
She even included Diana, with the grey men comment.
August 26th, 2008 20:01
Not “jelus” of Kate? An awful lot of idle time is spent at sites devoted to a bald guy and his girlfriend.
And the stalkers will be out in full force at Kate’s upcoming charity Roller Disco event. They’re already trying to contact organizers for tickets so they can “bump” into William.
“SECURITY”!!!!!
August 26th, 2008 20:04
Judging by the price of those tickets, they are going to be sorely disappointed. JMO. If Kate was going to make an appearance there,I would think some paper would know it by now. We’ll see.
August 26th, 2008 20:23
Guest,
“Not “jelus” of Kate? An awful lot of idle time is spent at sites devoted to a bald guy and his girlfriend.” Bwahahahaha!!! Your last post was hilarious. I’m in stitches here!
Lisa,
I hadn’t thought about that before- Kate is on the organizing committee but it doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll be there for the event itself.
Personally I wish the tabs could be a little more creative when it comes to W&K. Why not do a story about how Kate hates Chelsy’s guts? or maybe explore the fallout between William and Peter Phillips because of the Hello deal. It would all be lies of course but at least fun lies
August 26th, 2008 20:30
Bwahahahaha
August 26th, 2008 21:04
Wow, I left this site for a while, and now have come back to see that censorship lives on here. You are not allowed to give your opinion if it is ruled as anti-Kate. I have never seen such a bunch of “you must believe in Kate or you are not allowed to post” bullying in my life.
What is this..a communist website??
Get over it people…everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Of course, my comment here will probably get me kicked off of this site! Ha!!
August 26th, 2008 21:18
Lisa, I think Kate will show at Roller Disco cause her name is listed as commitee member. If she does not attend it would look very bad on her part and therefore ruin what they Firm/PR are trying to change and that is the negative press.
August 26th, 2008 21:53
The SUN story skewers Kate.
I think she brought all this on herself by NOT getting a career or a job.
………………………………………………
The SUN Quote:
“Yet instead, she is rapidly losing whatever public affection she once had by coming across as a rather idle and spoilt party girl.
…………………………………………quote”
August 26th, 2008 22:01
I didn’t hear all of the people crying now about Kate’s press, saying a thing when it was all POSITIVE, except how true it was,
so now that Kate’s getting negative press, somehow it’s not valid, Ha……..!
Kate did this to herself. Some of us have been saying for ages she needs to work, so now the press is finally saying it, maybe Courtiers are trying to get rid of her, because they probably know William is not even close to getting married.
William is not going to marry this woman.
Her press is getting worse by the day, no way the Palace wants this brought on their Golden Prince.
August 26th, 2008 22:07
Never say never when it comes to BP and the press — who’d have thought in September 1997 that CPB would become Charles’ wife? That anyone at BP would allow it?
Kate is no CPB btw — so there’s not much, if any, PR rehab needed.
All KM needs, just as all that CPB needed, was the committment of her Prince. That was all it took.
Kate will be Queen, of that I am sure
August 26th, 2008 22:35
I’m totally sure too alsgal. I have a big hunch that is about to happen. Like I said before, the media is trying to get something out of their Prince and the palace. The media is pushing all of their buttons but the big Royal Correspondents like James Whitaker, Jennie Bond and Nicholas Witchell are keeping their mouths shut and gearing up for the big news.
August 26th, 2008 22:43
We can add Ingrid Seward to that last as well, Rman. Not a peep from the Royal veteran in the Editor’s Letter over the past two issues of Majesty.
Something is up, and it’s gunna be all good in the hood, I can feel it in my gut
August 26th, 2008 22:59
Sorry I forgot about her. Yes I know what you mean alsgal, I feel it too. Although there is some media tension at the moment, something is telling me that all is calm in Clarence House and they are working this all out so the announcement can be made. I wonder where is William & kate at the moment? We have seen Harry on top of Buckingham Palace watching the party and we seen Chelsy joining the party and having tea at Clarence House but we haven’t seen William nor Kate since they was at the club.
August 26th, 2008 23:25
I usually ignore the trolls but there are so many holes in this The Courtiers Are Behind The Negative Stories Theory I just can’t help myself. I think anyone without an irrational dislike of Kate Middleton has noticed it’s not just her who gets criticized these days. The same ones who trash Ms Middleton have started to go after the “golden prince”. But Buckingham Palace must be behind the bad press William has gotten lately too. William has a FULL TIME JOB. But people like Amanda Platell said he didn’t have a real job- he was playing soldier. Rebecca English implied he was not only interested in another woman but was moving back to CH to delay his engagement. Another DM all star Katie Nicholl wrote recently that William was present at booze filled parties when he and Kate vacationed in Mustique. A recent article in The Guardian, the author’s name escapes me right now, said William had been a disappointment, that Charles was more interesting than him. Oh, let’s not forget the 2 Sun columns. The first bashed him for not being at the Olympics and the second called him an absentee ditherer who was stringing Kate along and leaving her to fend for herself with the palace grey men. So are we to believe the Queen has approved a strategy of getting rid of Kate that includes dragging her grandson’s name through the mud? Not bloody likely!
August 26th, 2008 23:42
Pr. William will probably dump her again, it’s what he does, he dumps her and takes her back, he then dithers when the pressure gets to great. This girl has dated him for five years, the Palace is not protecting her, William is not protecting her image. She is out there on her own, if he wanted to, he could have protected her PR a couple of years ago.
I think something is going on. I don’t think at 26 William is going to marry her, I don’t even think he’s close to being ready.
William controls all this, all he needs to do is get OFFICIALLY.
August 26th, 2008 23:55
I love Ingrid Seward’s commentary. She once said Kate looks like ” the cat that’s got the cream”
Very true. Kate projects a quiet confidence. Like she knows something we don’t know!
August 27th, 2008 00:25
Merrick, maybe Kate is just in it for the royal title? No one has ever questioned HER motives, I sure would, William’s always going to be the richer one in the relationship, no matter who he dates. Kate is okay as a person, but she seems kind of boring to me.
August 27th, 2008 00:44
I am sure Kate as well as William were well aware of the possible criticism when she left her Jigsaw job and I am also sure that they decided to go for it for a good reason. I can for a certain degree understand where the criticism is coming from but it is plain wrong to say she is a party girl. Some kind of party girl who goes out about once a month at most.
Unfortunately for Kate the press has found something new but engagement speculation to sell and they’ll continue to write these sort of stories. If I were Kate I’ d continue to ignore it.
August 27th, 2008 01:05
That’s just what she does Trixie. They all ignore the silly press and that is what make members of the media blood boil. They can’t stand the “hush hush” the Palace is in. The silence is killing them. I just have a feeling that the palace will say something that will ease everything with good news.
August 27th, 2008 01:10
Maybe Kate hasn’t lived up to what some people thought she would when she graduated from University,so perhaps as far as the press is concerned Kate is not worth propping up any more.
August 27th, 2008 02:27
Hello,
I think we forget that PC’s people evolved a strategy to have Camilla accepted by the populace and this stategy included the trashing of the reputations of other members of the RF.
There was no clear involvement by PC but many senior RF members were systematically atacked by his PR people and even included stories of the Queen Mother’s extravagant life style. HM was also included ,as were the Princes Royal and her husband Tim.
It succeeded and eventually Camilla rose from a hated figure to the level of almost being accepted as the future Queen. This was all achieved by a dedicated PR team acting on PC’s behalf.
Now we have a report, true or false , that ‘certain’ aids want PC to step down in favour of a younger dynamic (?) PW and what has happened ?
PW is being systematically atacked and one of the weak points of PW’s life at present is KM . So KM, her family, her lifestyle and her culture is systematically attacked and all at whose behest?
The film about the ‘resurrection’ and repositioning of Camilla was very revealing and does raise the question as to who exactly is behind the concerted effort to criticise KM and through her, PW and further raises the question as to why?
It really begs the question as to when and if an engagement is imminent and who really is behind the negative PR and propaganda and what the eventual agenda is.
Perhaps PW/PH’s ‘new’ PR team is being put together to counteract this negativity but then PW remains close to CH by continuing to live there and who exactly is paying their salaries and expenses.
Is the Queen being active too ?
It is all very close to what I said several months ago, it would be interesting to trace the source of the attacks on KM and inevitably PW.
August 27th, 2008 03:30
The attacks on Kate Middleton are by none other than a handful of girls who are bitter because Prince William didn’t give them the time of day at St. Andrews. And they know in the bright light of day he’d step over them like a crack in the road to get to Kate. And that despite all of the howling about Kate and her employment status by a few deranged internet trolls, despite everything they’ve thrown at her but the kitchen sink, she and William remain together.
Catherine & William will be engaged OR married by this time next year. This has been set in stone for a while now. LOL
August 27th, 2008 03:44
Good Morning,
Considering that people from all over the world have a problem with Kate and some are twice his age, I think your “they missed out theory” doesn’t quite add up. I’m not defending them but I don’t think we can stereotype people who dislike Kate that easily.
I was thinking last night though about them and I thought why do they have to marry now? I’m not saying that they won’t but why is there the pressure for them to? The way some people talk it’s as if it is a done deal.
You see, they are only 26, they are both young. William has a lot of royal duty training to do. Plenty of people have dated for more tha 5 years before marrying. I know someone who dated their partner for 15 years (from the age of 20-35) before marrying them. If Kate or William does not feel ready, is that really a problem? There is lots of time for them to. After all, the behaviour I have seen between KM and PW and the events that KM has attended is something that I would expect from a long term, serious relationship. But why does it have to mean marriage?
Kate supported William at his passing out so why should she not support him at the Order of Garter (she had similar roles in both I think), she went to PP and AK’s wedding, but she knows the family now and it would be rude for them not to have invited her by now. She is after all meant to be friendly with Zara.
I’m not saying that they are not in love or that they will never marry. I’m just questioning why everyone seems to be saying that they have to and will soon.
Just something to think about.
August 27th, 2008 04:03
I just wanted to add something about her attending the events. I think she is in with the RF as far as a girlfriend can be (I think “IN” as a future wife can only happen when they are engaged.) But I would expect her to be by now.
I just don’t see the arguments why they HAVE to get married. I would like to see they get married when they are READY and 100% SURE and IN LOVE. Of course, I don’t know if they are or aren’t now but it does bring a different side to this marriage and engagement debate.
August 27th, 2008 07:15
Ked, I think what you are saying has alot of truth in it. The RF is very competitive family amungst each other. I can see Charles or Camilla PR people trying to get the publice at ease with their growing positions in the monarchy. I don’t believe for a moment that Charles would ever give up the throne for William. It is very sad that if Charles PR people are behind the Kate bashing, they show no responsibility to how this could effect William. I am sure they are uneasy about any marriage between Kate and William because they have what Camilla and Charles don’t, the “IT” factor.
August 27th, 2008 07:20
I am referring to the hardcore trolls who are floating lies as well as emailing hacked private photos from off of the internet, which are being picked up by and repeated in the press. This is hardball by a few cowards, some of whom are brazen enough to use the same screennames at various royalty sites and online tabloid comments sections. These loudmouths are rabidly anti-Kate Middleton, at least one in particular I believe is somehow connected to a few journalists or fancies herself one. These people began by attacking her on a few websites and have graduated to a concerted effort to attack her by feeding lies to the press. And snidely braggging about doing it.
This ilk is who I am referring to. If you have your doubts about her fine, that is your right. But to come online and call her every name in the book but a child of God without any credible evidence to back up the smear, as I have seen done here repeatedly by one of those trolls, be prepared to get called on it.
August 27th, 2008 07:33
ked,
Sorry but I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories. Charles has some unattractive character traits but hanging his son and his girlfriend out to dry to boost up Camilla isn’t one of them. I don’t know a parent who loves their child who would do that. He also couldn’t do that and expect William not to find out about it. Besides the 2 people who have gotten the most negative press in the last ten years have been Charles and Camilla. Maybe followed by Edward and Sophie. Not the Queen, Andrew, or the Princess Royal. And I’m not sure how much Camilla is really accepted- she doesn’t use the POW title and the spin before the wedding was that she would never be queen only Princess Consort. From this side of the pond Camilla was sold as the great love of Charles’s life, the one who makes him happy. There was also a makeover so she looked better. That’s how they got more Brits to not object to a marriage. Not by tabloid stories of the other royals.
Trixie
You’re right. W&K have been together for a few years now. There’s only so much gushing and engagement predictions one can do before that gets old. And it is old at this point for some in the media. So they have a new storyline.
August 27th, 2008 08:30
The Marriage Now! pressure seems to arise each time Kate is without a 9 to 5 job because some people start to look for a reason why Kate does not appear — key word here is appear — to be pursuing a career given her remarkable talents.
Although KM has been pursuing all kinds of opportunities behind the scenes it is only because we don’t see pictures of it — and how would we get a picture of someone making phone calls or sending out resumes — that makes certain people say, well, she’s not doing anything since we don’t see two pictures a day of her coming and going to an office. So assumptions are made, and likely inaccurate ones at that.
We’ve also heard two sides of PW’s supposed opinion on the matter which contradict each other. The first was that (supposedly) PW was concerned KM was starting to look like a WAG in the press, hence the Jigsaw job. Yet we also hear that PW wants KM to be on call, understandable given his very busy schedule.
Here’s where I think the solution came in for KM to work for the family business, that it enables both. Kate works when she can, and yet she is also able to arrange her schedule around PW. No, that doesn’t provide people with the two pics a day they want to see, but it works for Kate, and her family. It also seems to offer PW the best of both worlds, a working GF who is also on call, a win-win situation if you will.
August 27th, 2008 09:03
There is no way Charles PR team is behind the bashing. Like I said before I really do think all is well behind Clarence House walls. There is a little media tension but William & Kate are fine and don’t seem to be in any rush. I think the media and the public wants to see William & kate doing more official things together. They want to see her being active in charities and raised awarenes of her interest. That is what The Sun was trying to point out, they want this couple to officially make it known that they will walk down that isle next year and they want this now. I just think the media need to stay calm and not bash them. They need to write encouraging articals about things William & kate can do together. There is some events coming up this year like The Lord Mayor’s Appeal, The James Bond Premire and Charles’s birthday celebrations. I’m sure William & Kate will be able to attend some of these events.
August 27th, 2008 09:04
you seem overly concerned with what others are writing – just get on with your opinion.
If William was ready for marriage they would be married – he isn’t ready – she is CHOMPING at the bit to be married, it means everythign in the world to her to be accepted by him and his family through marriage – a huge step up from coal mining and prams that were too big for the houses they lived in.
It is easy to throw around Jealousy as an answer to someone having a differing opinion to you when it is obvious that what they are saying has truth in it.
The girl can’t even RSVP now?! And she has nothing to do! She is lazy and a real loser to think that her humble beg. can be forgotten now – they won’t be by the general public -a nd she is so STUPID not to see that what would endear her to the public is not this vigorous climb to the top but perhaps staying ‘real’ to her lower class roots
Accepting freebies as a private citizen is one thing but as the girlfriend and the the girl runn ing for the top job of Queen it is inexcusable. She shouldn’t be accpeting anything for free – no rebates on audi’s no free drinks at clubs, nothing FREE –
How do you not know that it is the press that are finding those pictures themselves on facebook. They are easy enough to get for anyone, I highly doubt anyone is sending in photos of naked james – naked james should have thought about being in that photo in the first place – given his sisters want to be part of the RF
August 27th, 2008 09:16
PW/KM are still together ?
August 27th, 2008 09:17
So I truly believe that Kate is looking at some causes that she really wants to support. Like The Sun said, once Kate gets her hands tied from behind her back and come out full force, the media won’t be able to keep up with her.
August 27th, 2008 09:41
oh ya it should take kate another 10 years to decide – given her lack of WORK ETHIC! Pleading that CH – who apparently call her a private citizen are advising her on what to do – remember these are the same people that did nothing to advise sophie or diana before their marriages – she jsut wants you to think she has no option so she can continue to be lazy and worthless in the work department
If it doesn’t involve alchohol or a party kate won’t be involved
August 27th, 2008 11:47
nikki,Rman,
Have you seen the Camilla film where PC’s PR people and close aids were charged with reconstructing Camilla’s place in society.
There was no indication that PC was individually involved but the PR people and his aids had obviously been told to ensure Camilla’s acceptance at all costs.
To this end HM,the Queen Mother, Andrew, Edward,Princess Royal and husband Tim were all
severely criticised for various activities and events during their lives.
If PC’s PR people and aids can do that to a mother, siblings and to a dearly loved Grandmother they would have no hesitation in doing it to protect the succession and if that initially means PW and KM are hurt then it happens.
In later years as appropriate they or their successors would do exactly the same to enhance PW as King and whoever is his Queen.
These servants of the crown have been doing this for a thousand plus years and have no compunction in methods used. History has proved and shown this year after year and their loyalty is to the continuation of the succession with individuals sacrificed without mercy.
There are many families close to the crown who are dedicated to this task thus ensuring the succession remains constant. Have you ever considered why the same family names are members of the Royal houshold reign after reign?
If KM is to be sacrificed to protect PC and then PW’s succession she will be irrespective of personality and it would take a strong willed Prince to ensure his wishes are respected.
So far PW has not shown that strength of character in protecting KM or her family.
In your own life how many of you would allow your loved one and her loved ones to be vilified relentlessly without making some effort to protect them ?
I know my own view. Do you ?
August 27th, 2008 11:52
Good points both fjae and ked.
August 27th, 2008 11:58
i agree ked
and thank you for bringing a more balanced view here Merrick
August 27th, 2008 12:26
Interesting idea ked. I’m not sure if I agree yet, it will take some mulling over but you have given me something to think about.
However, normal practice is that the royal and PW in this example do not speak publicly about private issues to the press. Although, I would have thought that he would have done something by now. Last time this began to happen in late 2006 (I think), she got the job at Jigsaw because people were saying she was like a WAG. IMO that was a reaction to the press to ensure that her reputation would be protected. She is only doing odd jobs for her parents (not full time work) and is getting criticized (whether we like it or not the criticism is increasing and is becoming more public. There was a bit in the Guardian today I think which is not a tabloid and therefore is a more respected newspaper).
As I said ked, I’m not sure if I agree at the moment but I shall think about it and thank you for giving us another idea to consider.
August 27th, 2008 12:29
Apologies, I have just realized that the article in the Guardian that I mentioned was not written today but sometime a week or two ago. I was away, so I only read it today. Sorry for the confusion about the date but it still counts as a recent article so I think my point still stands.
Apologies again.
Thank you
August 27th, 2008 12:31
Oh my word. Something really needs to be done and P-R-O-N-T-O. Now we have a Rosslyn Beeby of some Australian paper suggesting Kate might support the UK Hamster Rescue Charity.
Sorry, but much as I adore hamsters and I’m sure many do here too that comment somehow comes across as snarky to me. I doubt someone would make a joke about the Queen supporting a charity like that.
This kind of coverage is not fair to Kate, and ultimately, it’s not fair to William. It’s got to stop, and the only way I can see, is for an engagement to be announced.
August 27th, 2008 12:35
Ked, so while CH/BP/PR slaughter the Middletons and William in some cases, who William picks as a wife is just as important to the monarchy as Charles and Camilla good PR. I put nothing past what the RF will do to keep power, but throwing Kate to the wolves for the sake of it reflects William character and the RF for letting it happen. It seems to me they CH/PR are playing with fire. Kate reputation will be of such a bad standing that the Queen should just arrange a marriage for William then. I can’t see that would be in the best interest of the monarchy either.
August 27th, 2008 12:38
The press will continue either way if people are not impressed with KM’s behaviour they will let their opinions known. A few people on one forum cannot influence the entire world’s press there must be more to it that.
How is it not fair to Kate or William? It is unpleasant I agree but people have the right to free speech. The easiest way for this press to end is for KM to get a job (not doing odd jobs for her family’s business). Why should William be pressured into marriage just because Kate is being criticized for her actions? William has not forced Kate to do anything. She is a 26 year old woman; an adult, and if she is unhappy she must do something about it. As a child I was told that there is always a way, even when it seems impossible. When William marries Kate or anybody else I want it to be because he feels it is right in his heart and he loves her, not because his girlfriend is being criticized for having done very little since university.
August 27th, 2008 12:40
P.S. I admit that the hamster comment is harsh and below the belt. It’s one thing to say she needs a job, it’s another to take the mick.
August 27th, 2008 12:46
b – I like your post
“A few people on one forum cannot influence the entire world’s press there must be more to it that.”
I think you are dead on with that comment.
People are upset because their point of view isn’t getting as much air time as someone else’s so they try to say it is ‘trolls’ or the big bad ugly people out to get w and k which is just totally crazy…. the only people who are w and k worst enemies are themselves.
August 27th, 2008 13:03
gracie,
IF, and I think it’s a big IF, PW and KM do not get married then I fear that the only marriage PW will achieve would be an arranged one, similar in many respects to PC/Diana.
I can not imagine any self respecting lady or Princess would accept him as a lover despite obvious advantages following the history of his current affair.
Marriage itself is a lottery with love and good will required on both sides and to enter into a marriage with PW without these qualities could be disastrous or even monarchy busting.
Just look at the RF’s record itself , the numerous ‘hollywood’ failures and the divorce rate in general.
What a prospect.
August 27th, 2008 13:11
That will never happen ked I am sure and I am also sure that PW will never let it happen; he is said to be stubborn.
If a woman loved William and if he truely loved her they will marry I am sure. A self respecting woman could still accept him as a lover, as she could say that he is the man that she loves. If William never finds the woman he truely loves then he will be a better role model not to marry at all. At least then he could say that he felt that he would be marrying for the right reasons if he had and that he would not be sure of the success of his marriage if he had married. Who would you respect more, a man who had married a woman he did not love or one who had stayed true to himself by saying that he will only marry when it is right?
I really hope that William is the second man.
August 27th, 2008 13:19
ked,
Just because someone on a tv show said it doesn’t make it true. I like to deal with facts not wild conspiracy theories that require absolutely no evidence to back them up. So where is the proof that a team of public relations advisers, hired and paid for by the Prince of Wales, set out to destroy the reputations of members of the royal family? Let’s start with the Queen- what negative stories were put out about her to make way for Mrs Parker Bowles? I’d like you to give the names of the newspapers/magazines and the authors who wrote them if you don’t mind. Wit the exception of the bad press she got right after Diana’s death HM probably gets the most positive publicity of all the members of the RF. She is rarely criticized for anything & she’s loved by the British people. So I guess that pr team failed miserably with that one. But let’s move on to the others. Princess Anne- this woman is rarely if ever even talked about in the papers at all! Not since her divorce from Mark Phillips has she really been tabloid fodder. The Princess Royal is also praised for her low key manner and hard work on behalf of the charities she supports. But since there was this concerted effort to drag her name through the mud maybe you can tell us how this was accomplished. What was Anne accused of? There must have been tons of negative press for her. Funny thing is I can’t think of any of it if there has been so strike 2 for those amazing pr reps. The only ones left are Andrew, Edward, and Sophie. Andrew has been a tab favorite for the string of women he’s been with since Fergie. But none of that is really damaging or interesting to most people. Unfortunately the Earl and Countess of Wessex brought the bad headlines on themselves. With the Fake Sheik scandal plus Edward’s involvement with Ardent productions. Unless you’re saying it was Charles who was behind their actions you can’t blame him for what happened with those two. I have no doubt that Prince Charles set out to make Camilla acceptable to the public. That has been well documented. What is not a FACT is that he trashed other members of his family to make that happen.
August 27th, 2008 13:31
B, Kate would not be getting any of this attention if she was not with William. Kate is able to make her own decision, but you are kidding yourself if you think she does not do things based on what she is advised to do by either William, RF/CH. She is not dating a guy down the street, she is dating a prince. Her life is no longer about what she wants, she has to consider the implications her actions has on RF and William. She had a job at Jigsaw and if a job was so very critical to the Queen/CH she would not have left that job. It’s that simple. So yes I do feel that it’s make or break for William. People have a right to free speech I do not argue that, I am saying that RF/CH should dispell some of this crap written about Kate. They do not because she is not a member of the RF, so that is where I blame William. He needs to put a ring on her finger, let her go or fight for the women he loves.
August 27th, 2008 13:33
Well William is no fool and he knows what he’s doing. Writers from the tabs is getting impatient and the Royal Correspondents are being patient. I’m just waiting for them to say something, everything is fine behind the Palace walls and they are working this all out. I’m sure at the moment, Kate is looking hard at some organizations and other charities to get involved in. She will start to become patron and president of these organizations so it will take some time to sort it all out. I believe Clarence House is working on a safe way for her voice to be heard. The Oxford Children’s Hospital is a good start. The questions that is being raised is not if they will get married? We know they will but what charities she will start to represent? This is what the public wants to know and I believe Clarence House will help her out with that.
August 27th, 2008 13:34
ked,
Sorry for the long post but I have to add I’m having trouble following your logic. You just said that CH/BP was behind the negative press Kate has gotten to protect Charles and William. I’m not sure who you think is behind William’s or Charles’s bad press but that’s another issue. Then right after you say it’s a big IF that they don’t get married. Huh? Why would they waste their time bad mouthing her to the tabs all to turn around and praise her as the greatest thing ever since the invention of the microwave once the engagement is announced & for the build up to the royal wedding? And if PW, in your opinion, is too weak to stand up for Kate and her family against these evil shadowy forces what makes you think he’ll marry her to start with?
August 27th, 2008 14:01
exactly
he won’t marry her
and kate and Charity HA! if it doesn’t involve alcohol, sex parties or women in cheap clothes she won’t be involved.
She is working on nothing !!!!!!!
She could have been so much more – what a waste – William will wake up but it may be in his 40s and it will most certainly be a divorce … led to a woman even more manipulative and social climbing than waity herself
August 27th, 2008 14:35
Until there is a ring on her finger, Kate is free to do whatever she wants. Just because CH tells her to do something, it does not mean she has to. In fact I would not want a Queen who did everything that her partner or courtiers told her to. I would want a woman who knew her own mind. She is being damaged far more at the moment and she could do something about it, there is nothing stopping her and it would hardly jeopardise her relationship would it?
For a 26 year old adult, it is very sad that she must base her entire life by what William or Ch says. She is a woman not a machine. Of course she has to think about the affect of her actions but what would be more damaging: her getting a small job out of London (less press) or her going the nightclubs like she did last week (yes it was with William but it did not stop the criticism and she is the one who is in more danger of her rep being ruined at the moment).
The RF and CH does not need to dispell anything about Kate. She is a private citizen isn’t she? I know she is not dating a guy down the street, but dating a prince means being in the public eye and accepting the consequences. You can either have it that it is wrong for the paps to follow her (as she is a private citizen) or you can have it that CH should protect her (which is required for the more public citizens).
William does not have to marry her if he does not want to (although if he does please hurry up, we need something new to gossip about) neither is it normal practice for a royal to personally argue against the media, they are free to write what they want to write. Besides, what could he say that could help? “I love her, leave her alone, she is a private citizen, i don’t want her to have a job” ????
She got the job at Jigsaw because people were calling her a WAG. She left it to persure a photography career, which is probably why the Queen and everyone thought okay,she’s finally doing what she wants. She has done little to follow up with this career (which if she was serious about she would not ask time off when William is in town, which seemed strange to me as she has not attended that many events). Now people are wondering what she is doing and now it is causing problems.
Nobody forced her to leave her job at Jigsaw, she has her own mind and her own brain at the moment she has no obligation to anyone. So if she does not like what the press says, then she must do something about it not William. If she is a truely private citizen as you say, then CH cannot act on her behalf.
August 27th, 2008 14:52
Rman,
Please explain why they haven’t done anything to date. This has been going on for so long now without any positive action.
In all honesty what makes you believe they will do anything at this particular time.
Is it just your loyalty that makes you so defensive?
Believe me on this side of the water KM is being ,wrongly viewed daily with less respect and PW with even less.
nikki,
I believe that PW will marry KM, eventually, as I do think there is mutual attraction and love there but he has many hurdles to cross to persuade many that it will be in his best interest.
My comments on the influence of the PR people is based on the facts produced in the Camilla TV programme and the successful outcome they achieved by their methods in establishing Camilla’s acceptability to the public.
It is PC’s wish that she be crowned Queen and constitutional law clearly states that the King’s wife is Queen. An act of parliament would be required to change the constitution to negate that effect with a reversal required when PW inherits to ensure his wife be crowned Queen.
I did say that there was no evidence of PC’s involvement but be assured the ’suits’ work for the Crown and its continuation and not for individual members of the RF away from the succession.
Comments were made about the state of the Princess Royal’s marriage to Tim and their incompatibility and referernce made to the reason behind Edward’s resignation from the Royal Marines.
August 27th, 2008 14:56
Interesting post Ked, I think you may have won me over with that one.
August 27th, 2008 15:27
Ked, I’m just saying that the press is just trying to get them to say something and do something. They are very impatient with these two and I have to admit that I at times get impatient with them too. But this is all getting out of hand. an engagement can be announced anytime but I think people are forgetting that William has to finish up his training this year so he will be busy in the fall. We will start to see what Kate’s interest is soon, The Oxford Children’s Hospital is a good start at the moment. William & Kate are taking their time on this and I understand that some don’t like that but this is the way they are doing it. You can see Ked that it’s about to happen and this past year they have taken the steps to get there. The Daily Mail and The Sun recognize that it will happen but hates that things are moving slow. The reason why I get impatient with William & Kate is because they can be very slow on things and we all know it’s time for Kate voice to be heard now. They read The Daily Mail and The Sun so they know what people are thinking but the big royal insiders must be busy gathering the little imformation they can get on what’s about to happen next. Katie Nicholls and other writers are confusing their readers and getting them upset. Just two weeks ago everything was fine. The love birds was vacationing together and got back looking refreshed and happy, now they are being bashed and being doubted. Just like you said Ked lets be patient and let William & Kate do their own thing.
August 27th, 2008 15:29
but it’s perfectly fine if he decides NOT to marry her, she is his first adult relationship, he is 26 and he may be still finding himself. If he does marry her that’s fine, but if he doesn’t that is also fine.
He does not owe her a marriage to please people who have watched the relationship for years.
If he marries her people who were not in favor of it, will accept it and her fans will definately be ecstatic, but if he doesn’t marry her that’s fine too, people will just have to accept it. Many Princes have had longtime girlfriends (Pr. Fred of Denmark, being one) who did NOT marry the girl. So I hope people accept whatever he decides. I will be finewith it if a wedding takes place, but if it doesn’t happen, I just hope the press and Kate supporters leave him alone about it.
August 27th, 2008 15:46
ked,
That’s the big campaign waged against other members of the royal family? Gossip about Princess Anne’s marriage to Tim Laurence and Edward quit the marines? I don’t think so. Mark Bolland was hired by Prince Charles to rehabilitate Camilla’s image & make her acceptable to most of the public as his companion. So he was directly involved in any efforts to discredit his family members as you have claimed. Also where are the public opinion polls about Prince William and Ms Middleton that leads you to believe no one respects them? Or do they not have your respect? That’s fine if you feel that way as you are entitled to your opinion. But you spoke of the view of them that British people as a whole have. You’ve also yet to give a single shred of evidence that anybody in the RF opposes William’s involvement with Kate. There has never been one single article from a mainstream newspaper or even a tabloid that says the Queen, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Princess Anne or any other senior royal disapproves of Kate Middleton. Even Katie Nicholl with all her nonsense about HM demanding Ms Middleton get a job never said the Queen didn’t want William with Kate or would forbid a marriage between them. So again I’m asking where are the facts? Or are you just giving your opinion like the rest of us?
August 27th, 2008 15:46
All interesting posts, but the tabs have affected you all. I’m with Rman, they will get married, pacience.
August 27th, 2008 15:58
I for one am having difficulty seeing him with anyone else at this stage. It appears they are happy, and that’s all it takes for me to be happy for them. Plus, I do like a nice wedding and seeing everyone all decked out in their fancy hats and jewellery just makes me happy. Pure and simple.
I also cannot see how PW could manage to find a girl more loyal or trustworthy then Kate. I know some will say, that’s easy — look at Arabella and Jecca Craig. But my answer to that is, that was eons ago and they weren’t with PW for as long as Kate has been.
She’s stayed loyal and true and didn’t sell out even with offers of a MILLION pounds to do so! That’s a lotta money. Some said she might have been desperate to get him back, and may have taken to wearing shorter than normal dresses, but I see that as proof the girl absolutely adores him. It’s like she was saying, “Look William, I’ll be that fun Dancing Queen if that’s what you want, because that’s how much I love you and want to please you.” Young people today act as if that’s a bad thing, but it’s not.
Any girl who absolutely adores William, and who is willing to take this much crap off of his advisors the grey men, forgive PW last years indiscretions, and put up with a demanding public is all right by me. Go Kate!
August 27th, 2008 16:02
That’s correct, but the blah blah she’s 26, she can flip the finger and send it all to hell, get an outside job, affect the company with all the papz outside, following her 24/7, and loose PW and the more blah blah.
August 27th, 2008 16:05
changing yourself to the point that you are unrecognizable as an independent person is in no way healthy – that is what waity has done for the past 5 or so years – changed for him – that’s not love – it is desperation
August 27th, 2008 16:06
Easy to criticise, but she’s the only one who really knows what is being required, asked, or whatever, and their very inner circle, plus perhaps yes CH/BP.
August 27th, 2008 16:12
The other thing I wanted to mention is that since the PCC complaints, we do not see as much of Kate as we used to. How do any of us know what she’s up to or not?
For all we know, she might be driving to an industrial park in Slough every morning, or might be out shopping and having a great life in Bucklebury whilst living and working at her parents business. So, I’m thinking there’s a lot the press just don’t print anymore because of the PCC complaint.
It was agreed that she’d could reasonably be expected to be photographed with PW, and nowadays that’s pretty much when we see her.
So, she’s probably got a really full life either in London w/ Pippa or at her parents that we just aren’t privvy to (and thank goodness as she deserves to be photographed when she wants to be photographed, not when I want to see pictures of her just because I’m nosy.)
August 27th, 2008 16:19
nikki,
Did you see the Camilla programme on 27/7/08 ?
Did you read the Telegraph article by ,I think, Patrick Jephson (or Jefferson) on about Apr 2005.?
Will you watch” PC and PW Royal Rivals” on 5.9.08 ?
These are not speculative rags these were and are based on responsible reporting and factual events.
I don’t want to clarify on here the actual PA and PE statements but they are available if you look.
Also where approx are you based ?
August 27th, 2008 16:25
nikki,
Sorry to repost but have you checked the origin of the majotry of negative statements about KM ?
I did for two weeks and majority originate from so called BP and CH sources.
That may be gossip I agree but can you give a single CH/BP positive ‘gossip’ comment ?
I’d be interested to hear it ?
Don’t you think it strange that they are all -ve ?
Even on here one gets a certain number of +ve and -ve statements on same subject . But all -ve?
August 27th, 2008 16:34
You are so right alsgal and Me. We don’t see her much these days and she hasn’t been seen since they got back. I wonder did they go to Balmoral. I’m sure he wanted to see his father and grandmother after that long time away.
August 27th, 2008 16:51
What I know for sure is BP nor CH sources would not release negitive gossip to the press. They would have to answer to The Queen, Charles and I know they don’t want to answer to William. The mess about The Queen wanting Kate to get a job and all that other stuff is just gossip from the tabs and no one on this site is that dumb to believe all of that crap. What we see is two people who are in love with each other and taking this step by step and they are doing a good job at it. It may be slow but they know what they are doing and I’m for one is looking forward to charity roller disco and other royal events this year. I’m not worried about what KN write. What a strong person Kate is to put up with all of this and you are right alsgal, GO KATE!!!
August 27th, 2008 16:54
Rman, I have wondered that too. Maybe this is where Kate and William have been since Raffles. I was hoping they would announce something from Balmoral.
August 27th, 2008 17:03
Rman,
My point was that all gossip sourced from BP and CH appears to be -ve but not one single +ve gossip?
Why ?
August 27th, 2008 17:23
Why you think a lot of gossip about Charles & Diana was so -ve and not that +ve? It sells. I see the same thing here in America with the Hollywood royals. Everynow and then you will hear +ve things aout their relationships but what really get the people to running to the news stands and online news is the -ve celebrity news. But believe me when I say that soon we will a lot of +ve to talk about.
August 27th, 2008 17:26
BP and CH has always leaked and it is anonymous so nobody ever finds out who did it as the press will never reveal their sources. It is a tactic used by MPs as well.
The term courtier is probably used rather loosely so it could apply to a close friend, or someone who works there.
August 27th, 2008 17:32
or to the internet forum
August 27th, 2008 17:33
Gracie, they will not announce an engagement even if they are up in Balmoral at the moment. William has his SAS operation work thingy to do before that could ever happen. He has not finished his military stint yet nor has he began royal duties. I very much doubt that there will be an announcement for at least several months if not another year.
August 27th, 2008 17:37
We all may get surprised, I’d say everyone calm down. They seem to be out of the limelight since raffles.
August 27th, 2008 17:42
I think everyone is calm Me.
And they being out of the limelight is nothing new. The only time that they are photographed now is at social events or nightclubs. It is rare now that we get a picture of Kate any where else and we only see William with the military, social events or nightclubs. It’s no surprise that we have no photos its been that way for the past 9 months or so.
Besides, an engagement would be announced nearer Christmas if such an event took place. That way there could be a summer wedding for when all the guests are more likely to be free.
August 27th, 2008 17:48
No one is calm, every single poster has mentioned someway or another the word engagement, announcement, wedding or marriage, or breakup.
That is not calm.
August 27th, 2008 17:52
The only calm one’s is PW/KM out of the limelight
August 27th, 2008 18:37
True Me, so lets all drop it and get calmed.
August 27th, 2008 18:39
Oh km isn’t calm, she still doesn’t have the ring! She has a lot to be worried about to, william is too young too naïve and too tied down now to contemplate marriage.. And in love? No I think that is what kate wants you to think and why she smiles like an idot (not normal whatsoever) her smile hides high insecurity, she is a sad lost soul with a selfish partner that won’t even defend her. Even harry said that chesly was amazing (or words to that effect) and befoere you try to say that he is non emotional look at the difference between the way charles interacts with camzilla and the way he did. With diana – kate could jsut be his best choice like diana was to charles.
August 27th, 2008 18:44
Rman,
Absolutely. That’s why most famous people, including William, hate the media. The tabloids or celebrity magazines especially. They don’t even have to attempt to tell the truth. In order to stay in business they have to sell papers and get people to come to their websites. And these reporters can claim they have royal sources at CH or BP for their stories, positive or negative, because nobody could prove otherwise. They can lie or exaggerate all they want because nothing will happen. They won’t get sued so there are virtually no consequences.
ked,
I think you’ll find many a positive article about Kate quoting supposed royal insiders. How the Queen likes her, comparing her to Diana, how they’re already picking out wedding venues. This young woman has been the subject of media attention for years now. And IMO that’s part of the problem. Kate’s an old story at this point until there’s an engagement announcement. There’s nothing new or interesting to say about her.
August 27th, 2008 18:56
When I think of William’s obvious love and devotion to Kate the beautiful phrase “still waters run deep” comes to mind.
Just because he doesn’t set himself on fire or appear lit up like a neon sign doesn’t mean he’s not madly in love with her.
We all have a different approach to romance, what works for each of us is what we are comfortable with.
William is low key and cerebral; it makes sense that his approach to love, his love style if you will, is this way also.
People want him to act like Harry, when that is simply not his style, never has been, and likely will never be.
As long as Kate is happy with the way he shows his love (and she must be
) that’s all that matters.
August 27th, 2008 19:26
No actually my point was that like charles who would have been described as not on fire for diana was actually not in love with her and when he was with the person he loved he was much more outwardly affectionate + think william is the same. He isn’t in love with kate at all
August 27th, 2008 19:36
Yeah, Kate will end up like Camilla, he will marry a 19 year old naive aristocrat, dump her publicly and will be webcam/voice recorded and we will have it via youtube “Kate I want to be your Tamp**” when they are 45 years old.
August 27th, 2008 19:49
I’ve been Googling again and came across an English astrolger named Marjorie Orr, who is saying PW will get married in May, 2011.
Has anyone here heard of her? I never have.
She says there is a great deal of affection between William and Kate, and that they might go through a bit of a rough patch in 2008-2009. (Which couple doesn’t, I ask you?) Interesting, as she predicted that William was still a bit uncertain about his role.
Let’s hope Pluto passes or whatever it needs to do, so he feels sure of himself again.
August 27th, 2008 19:52
I hope its not the Disney character. My weekly horoscope says that I will meet my other half, every week.
August 27th, 2008 23:09
No I don’t believe a word of Marjorie Orr. Her horoscope sounds more like gossip and little stuff she got from the tabs.
August 27th, 2008 23:55
I as a middlet class woman, I find it very offensive that people like fjae called middle class people “broad”. Just because we are middle or lower class doesn’t mean that we are less than upper class people. There are upper class people who are just shit and money and social status doesn’t have anything to do with being a respectable person or with havng success in this life. Fjae, it is up to you if you want to hate Kate, but please, don’t insult middle or lower class people.
August 28th, 2008 08:43
SHE is a LOWER CLASS BROAD -
Where in that statement did I say that all lower class people are broads – nowhere -
so stop putting words into my posts that aren’t there.
Now there are quite a few lower class people that I would define as broads and kate middleton is one of them
August 28th, 2008 14:01
I don’t think Pr. William is even close to getting engaged.
Many were saying that engagement was definate two years ago and he DUMPED her, so I don’t buy the stories that any engagement is coming now. I think the relationship is one of Kate simply always being available for him, she’s easy, she’s there,she’s willing, he can always call her and she’s available. I found it interesting reading up on the early days of the relationship, the relationship didn’t take off until they moved into a more private house together at University and before that she wore the Underwear on the University runway when he really noticed her and Kate had been around people he knew and associated with for awhile before the Underwear runway show, but it took showing her body to peak his interest about her. Kate has always behaved desperately as far as I can see, from University days. I think that is one reason she won’t take a job where she actually has disciplined hours and days,or one reason she hasn’t tried a job which would take her away from London, because she is a afraid to give William breathing space. She always hangs around being available and her family aids her in her desperate quest to capture Pr.William. Her family keeps arranging these fake or non-existent jobs. In the end William will do what he has done before with her, dither and dump her.
There’s no way Pr. William is marrying or getting engaged before he’s 30 and now we have reports of his schedule of his plans for two years, for his Royal training. He’s still not engaged to her, Kate still has no ring, that must be driving her wild. All this Kate being available and willing, but Prince William has not budged a bit and put a ring on her finger, he is still a single Prince and could dump Ms. Middleton at anytime.
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fjae
August 27th, 2008 16:05
“changing yourself to the point that you are unrecognizable as an independent person is in no way healthy – that is what waity has done for the past 5 or so years – changed for him – that’s not love – it is desperation”
……………………………..end quote………
I Totally agree fjae.
August 28th, 2008 14:11
How can any of you know whether Kate has changed. Do you know her? We’ve only known her ever since she was with William. Andsince she’s in the public eye Kate hasn’t changed at all. She does what she always did. It’s public perception that changed – not Kate.
William has not given any indication recently that he intends to break off with Kate. You can repeat the old mantra – “He’ll dump her again, he’ll dump her again” as much as you want it doesn’t make it any more likely that it will happen. Of course there is no guarantee that they’ll marry but right now more signs are pointing in the direction that they will than that they will not.
The whole Kate underwear modelling thing is ridiculous. I can’t even understand where you’re trying to get at with that. She modelled in spring 2002. She was not the only model. Several other girls of William’s circel were on the run way in underwear as well. Kate had a boyfriend at the time and her and William didn’t become an item until 1 1/2 years later. Truely a desperate move on her part. :rollseyes:
August 28th, 2008 14:23
Trixie, people know, but wish not to express that they know facts, figures, dates. :shrug:
August 28th, 2008 14:52
Well you do have a point, maybe she hasn’t changed, perhaps she’s always been lazy and never intended to use her Degree. Perhaps her goal was to simply bag an Aristocratic(or Prince) husband.
August 28th, 2008 14:54
Merrick, I think its silly to assume that Kate’s parents keep her up. Sure they might help her out and yes they are considered millionares, but I don’t think I would say they make as much as Donald Trump or Jennifer Lopez,etc. The lifestyle that Kate has and the Prada purses, Issa dresses,etc. are expensive. Issa might be supplying her dresses, but her white Prada purse she has been seen with is moderatly priced at about $1,000 US. William has to be supplimenting some of it. Just as Charles did for Camilla. I don’t care if William does this and I don’t think other should either. She might pair Topshop with $300 boots and $600 handbag. I don’t see Prada giving out freebies to her yet. Maybe once she marries William. If William did not love her he would not be buying her things is my point. Just because they have not announced their engagement to the public does not mean they are not engaged privately. The palace denies EVERYTHING, so you can’t believe what is always printed.
August 28th, 2008 15:03
Merrick, to add if she truly wanted to snag an aristocratic prince for a husband, she could have trapped William long ago by getting pregnant. I don’t see him as the type of man to run away from that type of responsibility. I also don’t think she would have put up with the press smearing her family for so long. She is a beautiful girl and could get any rich man or duke if she wanted to w/o the hassle. I think William and RF are trained to spot gold diggers and she would have been let go along time ago. She would not be attending Garter ceremonies that’s for sure!
August 28th, 2008 15:22
Pregnancy out of wedlock would ruin her image forever, even if hed id marry her. Kate would have married William years and years ago if she had it her way and her mother’s way, it is William who has been holding back Middleton. I hope she’s prepared for antoher breeakup just in-case.
August 28th, 2008 15:22
Merrick, it’s nice to have you back and bring up old crap. I think because of the high position William is in and Kate is the longtime companion of the Prince, people are very much focused on them. People are very quick to call her a “Party Girl” when we haven’t seen her out parting in a while, they are quick to call her lazy because they don’t see her in public going to work anymore because she decided to work privately. Then on top of that they call her a “free loader” because she kindly accepts some gifts from people. It’s like she can’t win. But Chelsy is the worlds favorite Princess-in-Waiting. She has been seen parting a lot lately and if you see the pictures on W&HU the proof is there. People have to understand that people will give her gifts because they want to do something special for a person who captured their Prince’s heart. The late Princess of Wales was showered with gifts from jewelers, royals and leaders. So yes she will recieve free things from people but not all the time. People do like her you know.
August 28th, 2008 15:40
William & kate wouldn’t have not married years ago because it hadn’t reached to the level that is now. Kate is taking part in his Kingship training and she will be part of his schedule next year. Believe me when I tell you that this woman is not in the dark about anything and she won’t be left behind. She knows that she will always be one step behind him like Philip is to the Queen, Camilla is to Charles but like them, they will go through this together. She is a great support to him. We will begin to see her in action soon enough.
August 28th, 2008 15:53
no need to be so rude rman – isn’t you who was calling for civility here –
Merrick is STATING HER OPINION get over it
August 28th, 2008 15:57
Well Rman I think that you are very brave in being so certain and I commend you for stick to your beliefs no matter what other people think or say to you.:)
However, Kate went partying about two weeks. Even though that was the first time in ages I thought I should correct you as so many people are being moaned at for getting dates wrong, I thought I would correct you before that could happen. Your point still stands though as it is now a rare occasion.
I doubt she will that much a part of his schedule or training until an engagement is announced though. BP and CH would never risk involving a girlfriend in the Princes’ training just in case they break up. It would be foolish to give out an impression that marriage is two steps away when it might not be and may be damaging for the Princes’. You know the whole: she was supporting him already and acting like a wife, why didn’t he marry her type comments. Although I am sure they respect Kate their first priority must be the Princes.
August 28th, 2008 16:00
Rman that’s interesting, in the light of how you see things. If I recall, perhaps you will be right with this one, once again.
August 28th, 2008 16:02
When someone refers to partying, its partying, not once in a blue moon party.
August 28th, 2008 16:04
Don’t mean to sound rude but what was Rman right with before? I don’t remember, or perhaps I was not here.
August 28th, 2008 16:11
Me, I have to say that I found your comment “it’s partying, not once in a blue moon party” rather rude. Rman did not specify between constant partying and partying. When I go out partying like I did a few weeks ago, that once a one off time but I still count that as I went to a party, therefore I went partying. It doesn’t matter whether someone does it once in a while or all the time.
It’s like fishing. I’ve only been once (and hated it) Just because it was once it did not stop it being called fishing. I don’t call the experience “that once in a blue moon time I sat by a lake and got bored”.
Thank you and Good Night everyone. Sleep well. (Good Morning to everyone who’s at the opposite side of the world)
August 28th, 2008 16:12
Its okay B, Rman and I are perhaps the oldest posters in the BRW, and he has spot on on past events.
August 28th, 2008 16:13
Thats alright Me. I didn’t think that happened recently.
Lol
August 28th, 2008 16:16
Yes you can tell that they act more like a married couple already. She also support him like a wife already.
August 28th, 2008 16:19
I think royal watchers, or at least speaking for myself, we know that she hasn’t been “partying for a while” means that she hasn’t been partying literally. Like seen shopping or at the beauty parlor or keepting low profile, although we saw her pic two weeks ago, picking boxes 1 month ago, and so on.
August 28th, 2008 16:21
And I think that you and I are actually the oldest posters here Me, well not counting Will and Claudius (the original lot) who left I think. Wow, makes me feel like I’ve been here a long time and I have to say I’ve enjoyed. Lol.
August 28th, 2008 16:23
When going fishing once, usually I state that I went fishing once and didn’t like it.
Not partying for a WHILE and being a royal watcher – is completely understood by myself and those who I think understand what I mean.
Have a goodnight B.
August 28th, 2008 16:24
Oh sorry Me, I took Rman literally when she said partying, thinking she actually meant going to a party or clubbing and not just relaxing by shopping with friends. My mistake
August 28th, 2008 16:25
Yes, I miss Will and Claudius, both haven’t posted for a long time, more than 3-4 months ago.
August 28th, 2008 16:27
Night Me Sleep well (if your in that part of the world)
P.S. (it was “partying IN a while” which to me meant she had not gone out partying for a long time or at least not recently
August 28th, 2008 16:29
I’m done with the discussion of “she hasn’t been partying for a while”.
She has kept a low profile for a while, perhaps someone might jump and say “she was recently photographed partying at Raffles, and there goes down my thoughts that KM has been low profile.
Cheers
August 28th, 2008 16:31
Me too Me. Where did they go I wonder? It would be nice if they paid us a visit again.
August 28th, 2008 16:33
Wills is in the US with Liz
Claudius gave up on the odd balls here.
August 28th, 2008 16:33
gracie,
I’ve never thought the Middletons supported Kate or that they were so well off their daughter had access to a trust fund. How could they? Their home is a nice size but pretty modest & they have 2 other kids to look after. No way could they spend all of their extra income on Kate. They seem like they’re well off but not exactly wealthy. They’re certainly rich when you compare them to those making $40,000 a year but not when comparing them to the Windsors. If William wants her to look good then he should pay for it- the clothes, shoes, purses, & visits to the salon. To me Kate is actually pretty disciplined when it comes to spending his money. After 5 years I would be all over Bond Street putting the royal credit card to good use- Harry Winston, Chanel, Asprey, and Hermes. And I wouldn’t care how it looked either, totally shameless
August 28th, 2008 16:34
Oh Me, I wasn’t trying to get you at all and I think we should lay it to rest. I was just trying to ensure that nobody else moaned at Rman for forgetting that. She has been keeping a low profile and I said that Rman’s point was still valid.
But it’s all sorted now.
However, as much as like the fact that they are not being harrassed by the paps and Kate does not have to put up with it. I would like some more photos and news and I mean real news (a bit hyprocritical I know but there we go). Lol.
August 28th, 2008 16:37
I’m okay, I love healthy discussions, even with the hardliners.
Its and Im cool.
August 28th, 2008 16:37
Nikki, I think your right to a certain extent. Her parents probably pay for her clothes (not the freebies of course) but I imagine that the few and it is only a few designer items that she has were presents from people. After all, we saw her all the time with that white handbag last year which either means it is particularly sentimental or she does not have many designer handbags so she wants to use it and not waste it.
Every girl deserves a pressie from her boyfriend now and then doesn’t she?
August 28th, 2008 16:41
I hope you don’t think I’m a hardliner Me as I can compromise and I do a lot. My views have changed dramatically over the past few months due to convincing arguements from members on this board. I just always stick up for what I think is right.
And I agree healthy discussions are very good and I enjoy them as well.
Glad to know you are cool.
August 28th, 2008 16:44
Laughing, nikki you are funny. I would want my girlfriend to look good all the time too. I’m the type of man that want my woman to look like she’s my queen or consort. William knows how to treat Kate and of course she is dating a future King so it’s her job to always look like a Princess and future Queen.
August 28th, 2008 16:49
Aww, Rman you sound like the perfect boyfriend and you are so right. I love it when my boyfriend spoils me as he makes me feel like a Princess.
August 28th, 2008 17:02
Well B, don’t make me blush. lol
August 28th, 2008 17:22
Britney Spears to sing for the Royal Family – Fox News
And Harry is desperate to go back to the frontline – Sky News
August 28th, 2008 17:50
Nikki, I am so with you! Merrick thinks her family supports her and I say they don’t have that kind of cash for Kate lifestyles. I bet they are still paying off college tuition for the 3 kids. I would have been kick to the curb for spending all of William money, buying all kinds of everything. So, yeah I think Kate is pretty conservative with what she gets unlike Beatrice and Eugenie who dress in high end labels. Only Andrew can afford to dress those girls like that. But when Kate and William get married, the true fashionista Kate will have major labels wanting to dress her and she will shine.
August 28th, 2008 18:01
She has proved to be tight or conservative on budget, willing or not, but she repeats her outfits. I’d say HM likes that, she has said so in the past, not referring to KM, but in wasting too much money in clothing.
She might change those aspects thow marrying PW. I wouldn’t have a problem. I don’t think its bad.
August 28th, 2008 18:53
Me, I don’t think its bad either. I think it the evolution that all princesses make or atleast the ones who are closer to the throne and have more money at their disposal. But then they also begin to get big fashion houses wanting to dress them, much like Diana did. Kate has a fantastic figure and looks well in clothes, plus she is pretty too. She will have lots of clothes coming her way. I love Princess Mary of Denmark. She picks lovely hats that don’t take away from what she is wearing and when she dresses casual she still looks great.
Does anyone find it odd that the DM has had no Kate and William stories over the past days?
August 28th, 2008 20:06
Roman you have been telling us every year an engagement is coming THIS Year and each year passes and STILL NO ENGAGEMENT, in fact one year you said an Engagment was coming that year but instead he dumped her that April.
I don’t think William is ever going to marry Kate.
My prediction has been more accurate ,because he still has not married her, five years later.
I’ll make another prediction….A Breakup is coming and this time for good.
As far as gifts to Kate, I kind of actually felt for her, when Pr. William came back from the wedding at Jecca’s family and gave Kate a wooden(or was it a Rope) bracelet. I know it’s the thought that counts but after five years, geeeee….
I predict a breakup by Christmas.
(smile)
August 28th, 2008 20:10
Yes Gracie, I do recognize that. Very interesting. They may come up with one soon.
August 28th, 2008 20:11
Interesting Merrick.
August 28th, 2008 20:44
I would imagine that CH came down pretty hard on the DM after the last piece exiting the nightclub and all the photographers so maybe they are staying quiet for now. William and Kate may be at Balmoral and and out of the line of fire for the moment too.
August 28th, 2008 21:15
I agree merrick.
August 29th, 2008 00:09
some people have been saying saying that kate doesn’t have a job and some other say that she works privately for her parents. but how do we actually know whethe she’s working for her parents, or whether she is just being lazy? We don’t know neither of these two probabilities, as we don’t know william’s true feelings for kate, he could love her or he may be not. Probably they are just together because they are used to be together and because it will take a lot of hard work to find another suitable girlfriend for prince william and train her for royalty.
August 29th, 2008 00:23
Right, I guess that’s why most people stay together for so long. They just can’t be bothered to find someone else. :rollseyes:
Where does the rather naive idea come from that it would be hard for William to find another woman? Did I miss a sudden rise in the death toll of young women in the UK let alone worldwide? I’m sure there is no other woman anywhere who would give it a try with William and that’s the only reason he’s with Kate. Do you even read what you’re writing before you hit “submit comment”?
Get over it! He’s with her because he wants to be and that’s that! And if he wants to marry her he will no matter what people online or some gossip mongers say.
August 29th, 2008 00:59
So true Trixie.
August 29th, 2008 01:02
well trixie,
When i said that it will be hard for william to find another woman, I didn’t mean that there won’t be any woman willing to date PW, I meant that although there thousands of women wanting to date PW, not all of them are suitable for royalty, so if this is the case, then it will be hard for william to find one. Kate seems to follow royal protocol, knows the rules, and is mostly integrated into the royal circle, so finding another woman would be like starting all over again.
I do read what I write before submitting my comments, that you don’t understand what I am trying to explain is a different story.
I am just trying to suggest that as there is the probability that PW is with KM because he truly loves her, there is also the probability that he’s with her for the reasons I have mentioned above.
August 29th, 2008 01:05
Trixie
forgot to mention in the comment above, I have nothing to get over if william truly wants to be with Kate. I don’t care whether they marry or not.
August 29th, 2008 02:40
Well sonia does have a point and that can happen for many couples. They are so comfortable in a relationship that they just do not want it to end despite the fact it should.
Do I think that is the case between PW and KM? Well, it could be but I doubt it. About 1 year ago I did think that PW got back together with KM because of a comfort issue, but since then the relationship has probably (at least hopefully) strengthened and developed.
All I want to see now (skipping all engagement, marriage, babies etc.) is for William to take Kate on a holiday just the two of them- that we have evidence for. I am sure they have been on holiday just them e.g. Mustique in May and was it the Scheychelles last year? (sorry for sure on the spelling) But we never got photos so we can’t be 100% sure as we were told that they went alone on holiday just the two of them a few weeks ago but Pippa and James were then and I even read one paper say that Mrs Middleton was. The reason I would like this to happen, is because behaviour between two people can change when they are alone (minus bodyguards), so I think it could really reveal something about their relationship which could either confirm (or even reject) rumours.
Good Morning everyone
P.S. Rman, I’m sure your girlfriend thinks you deserve it if treat her like that.
August 29th, 2008 02:43
Sonia, i’m guilty in that aspect because if they get married I might be able to find out all the details from the wedding. Friend of a friend of the families (strange connection) knows one of the Middletons (not a close relative to Kate) but this Middleton probably will be invited if there is a wedding. It’s conplicated really and I only found out about recently. lol. But it would be to my advantage if they married.
August 29th, 2008 04:18
Hi everyone.
I’m just running this poll to find out what people really want and I plan to do it across a number of forums and sites to get a good cross section. I think it’s a good idea to target mainly royal forums or sites as the people who view them would be well informed and therefore would have reasons for their opinion. The more people who vote, the more reliable it will be and you can help get your opinion across.
I’ve started it in the forum section of this website, so if you have an opinion about it please go ahead and vote. I don’t think Steven would like it if we discussed it here and this is not an excuse to really get at each other about this issue but just for me to understand what people think. So go over to the forums and start voting.
Thank you.
August 29th, 2008 04:44
Here’s a link to the forums in case anyone hasn’t spotted it;
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/forum/index.php
Only takes a minute to sign up – then you’re free to post to your heart’s content…
August 29th, 2008 04:46
Thanks Steven. Good idea to post the link, I forgot about that .. lol
August 29th, 2008 04:52
B,
Having admitted an attachment to KM’s family, however remote I fear that you will now have to be very careful in what you say in initiating a topic or even giving any response.
I feel very sorry that you have divulged this attachment, however remote, because I enjoy your educated commentaries and find them very close to my own observations.
Be assured that your comments will be closely monitered by the press who scent an exclusive and wll use you as ” a reliable source, very close to KM,” and that will be fatal for you and possibly your friend’s,friend who may find himself/herself excluded together with the Middleton relative who will I assure you be identified. The press are relentless and I do hope you will not regret your well meant disclosure.
Perhaps you should have a word with Steven who may offer some advice or help.
The very best of look.
Sincerely.
August 29th, 2008 04:59
BRW,
Tried to log into forum with my screen name but told username not allowed.
Any idea?
August 29th, 2008 05:01
Hi ked,
Your username and password for the forum is separate from the blog, unfortunately there is no easy way of linking the two. Once you’ve signed up and logged in for the first time you can choose to stay logged in permanently.
Here’s a link direct to the registration page;
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/forum/index.php?action=register
Hope this helps.
To All: If anyone has any questions or needs help with the forum just leave a message here and I’ll help out.
Steven
August 29th, 2008 05:01
B,
Ref; your holiday comments above;
Don’t you think that PW/KM could be at “Tea Pot Cottage” even now disscussing their future steps ?
August 29th, 2008 05:44
I dunno, as I said it is like the smallest connection possible. There are 1000s of people who know someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone. I don’t think it is a real connection as such because I don’t get the inside scoop, mainly it is a distant connection and we just don’t talk about them. But if there was a wedding, it is likely that I could find out some stuff if I really wanted to.
I am not a reliable source and I am not close to KM, it is my family member’s friend’s friend who knows someone and it might even be another friend on the end. Lol. I only meant it as a passing comment, but perhaps it would be easier if Steven could delete that comment and this one if there really is a possibility that someone from the press could call me a source. I don’t want to be the cause of news going around when all I know is that they had a good time on holiday, which is so obvious anyway it’s not news.
But please do vote, just so that next time there is a
August 29th, 2008 05:45
Press submit before I meant to:
Please vote so that next time a discussion comes up we can say well actually of these websites this is what was concluded.
August 29th, 2008 08:10
Ked, what’s up with Peyton List? Has she hung out in royal circles? I have never heard of her until you mentioned her name, then I took to the internet to find info for you.
I can understand why Harry would want to go back to Afganistan, but I worry he will be in great danger.
August 29th, 2008 08:12
Sorry gracie I can’t answer your query
August 29th, 2008 08:37
I just don’t agree in any kind of form, way or circumstance the “Harry is Desperate to return to the Frontline”. He does come from a special family, period. If this news is true, the cost of protecting him, press attention again, a 2nd blackout will not work – will be bashed by the press.
August 29th, 2008 08:50
Me, I agree.
August 29th, 2008 21:56
do you people think that KM and PW know or ever suspect of all the things being said about them? Do you think they get to visit BRW plus other kate haters websites?
August 30th, 2008 00:55
I think they skim through them.
August 30th, 2008 03:14
Well, didn’t William say he did not read the papers last year at the CoD? I know the Queen does (there have been many references to her doing so in articles) I think they need to just so they know how they are being portrayed.
August 30th, 2008 03:19
P.S remember to keep voting in the forum, I’ve only had 4 votes so far. The less people who vote, the less likely is it to be reliable.
August 30th, 2008 03:47
B,
There has been some difficulty in my getting registered for the forum.
I’ve mentioned it to Steven, had some advice and will retry later.
August 30th, 2008 04:39
If anybody else has any problems, you could tell me your opinion at the end (I’m leaving the voting for 2 weeks) and I can add them on when I go through the results. Obviously, those people who have already voted should not tell me again.
Ked: Peyton list: Was she the girl seen with PW in Dorset?
August 30th, 2008 05:35
I don’t think William cares what the press thinks about him. Otherwise, he would have told them to stfu already rofl.
August 30th, 2008 08:08
I think it would be great if Kate wore Diana’s wedding gown when they get married.
They must be about the same size.
August 30th, 2008 08:33
Holy wrinkled bedsheet nooooo….
Besides I don’t think there is a tradition of the bride wearing the grooms mothers wedding dress. I find a bit of an “ick” factor there.
August 30th, 2008 09:22
B, I can not get an answer from Ked on Peyton List. He asked for info on her several blogs ago and I replied that she was an actress. Not very well known though. Not alot of info on her on the internet cause she is an up and comer. Please refresh my memory about the someone William was with in Dorset. So I am not sure what to think about Peyton and if she moves in the royal circles.
August 30th, 2008 12:29
I totally agree lisa. I personally think that your wedding is your day and nobody elses and whilst it can be a lovely gesture, it should just be about the bride and groom having a new start together as a married couple.
gracie: It was just an idea that someone had mentioned to me privately. I vaguely remember something along the lines of ked saying PW had been seen with someone else, but I could not say for certain. It was only a remark by someone I know that made me ask. From what I have just read Peyton is in New York at the moment and does not appear to have done work over in the UK (not to say she has not visited).
Ked: This is just a small request, but if you know something but cannot tell us, can you please not tell us you know something. It is quite annoying because I know you know something but we are not allowed to know what you know. Please tell us!
August 30th, 2008 15:23
I’m of mixed minds about the wedding dress issue. On the one hand, I thought Diana’s dress was a most beautiful dress and it would probably suit Kate to a T as she and Diana seem to be about the same size, although it probably would need to be taken in up top as Kate looks to be a bit flatter then Diana was back in ‘81.
However, I also feel it’s a great thing for Kate to make her own statement on her special day, and would think it would be a great opportunity to showcase a young new British designer. Mabel Sharpstowne is one who comes to mind.
Either way, Kate will make one lovely bride, maybe the loveliest we’ve seen this side of Grace Kelly and of course, Diana.
August 30th, 2008 15:37
Seriously would you want to marry in your dead mother-in-laws wedding dress? Especially when her marriage ended in one of the worst divorce wars there is? I know I wouldn’t and I personally have to say that I do not particularly like the dress either. It’s far too big for my liking especially the puffy arms. To 80th style.
I don’t doubt Kate would look great in it if only for her beaming smile but I sincerely expect her to get “her” dream dress like every bride does.
August 30th, 2008 15:39
Willem Marx is also on Disco committee. I wonder if he will show up?
August 30th, 2008 15:45
I’m sure Kate herself would look pretty but I do not think the dress would suit her, Kate is so skinny, I think all that material would hang off her.
I agree Trixie, I do not think it would be a good idea for Kate to wear Diana’s dress or have her engagement ring. That marriage was such as disaster and there is still a lot of scars from it. I think there needs to be a new start.
August 30th, 2008 15:46
he should show up gracie if he is on the committee if he doesn’t it doesn’t say much about being on the committee does it?
August 30th, 2008 15:49
Trixie, I agree Diana dress is to 1980 and puffy. I thought Diana looked beautiful on her wedding day, it looked like she could get lost in the dress. I think Kate will choose something to flatter her physique. I loved Caroline Bessette-Kennedy wedding dress, so appropriate for the type of wedding she and JFK Jr. had. He was a hot man.
August 30th, 2008 15:53
B, yes you are right he should show up, but I wonder if William or Harry will attend? They might want Disco to be about Kate and not take away from that. Even though it’s not about Kate its for charity, I mean press wise. William and Harry will probably be busy with their respective jobs anyway.
August 30th, 2008 15:56
Isn’t September 13 a Saturday though? Will and Harry should have the weekends off, no? I think if Kate attends William will as well. Whether Harry will go I don’t know.
August 30th, 2008 16:05
The Skatetacular is on Sept. 17th, a Wednesday.
August 30th, 2008 16:49
I would love to see Kate wearing Diana’s engagement ring.
That ring was beautiful and would look great on Kate’s finger.
It would mean so much to her to have William give her something that was his mothers.
August 30th, 2008 19:19
Well, I guess now there’s a royal forum out there that will get to see how strict or lax the UK’s Internet libel laws actually are.
August 30th, 2008 19:24
Ked, you were right the crows are out. DM has pics of Kate’s brother in maid costume grabbing his man parts and sitting in some sort of bath naked. Same photos from other forum. Trashy. Guess DM/ Scum that post these pics will be happy when they break up and he is forced into an arranged marriage. Think William will stick it out with Kate?
August 30th, 2008 19:26
Yes he will stick it out with Kate. The Daily Mail can’t come between those two.
August 30th, 2008 19:34
wow the DM and the posters on the internet forum should be ASHAMED of themselves. These people are human being whom they have never met. Human beings with feelings,which is apparently something these folks posting on that site do not have. The site should ban them all and the Middletons should take legal action. Now that the DM has identified the posters in question, legal action may be able to be taken on the grounds of copyright infringement in the least and possibly more serious charges. I think the DM sold out the IF and the posters there.
August 30th, 2008 19:36
Unless this recent press smear campaign was undertaken with the bessing of someone at BP, I suspect this will backfire as PW is known to be quite stubborn and contrarian.
The young man who dumped Kate when everyone was waxing poetic and urging him to propose, will stand by her now that some are urging him to dump her.
He is a bit like his father in this sense.
On track for a 2009 Royal Wedding, Rman?
August 30th, 2008 19:46
I have seen those pictures before and they are old, but it so sad that DM is tearing them to shreds. They always stress James and his “Guy” friends. They could ruin this boy life!
August 30th, 2008 19:48
alsgal,I am having great difficulty trying to fathom how those posters at that site can be anything short of horrified that their vicious slanderous comments actually were printed in a “newspaper”.I would love to hack into the facebook accounts of some of these people because I would be they have a few shots of themselves they would not welcome in a newspaper. It is just sad. I truely hope the Middletons take legal action against the DM, the Internet Forum the individual posters as well as those who stole the pictures.
August 30th, 2008 19:49
Oh yeah. It just goes to show you that these young girls are mad that she got his heart and they don’t have a chance at all. She’s beautiful, intelligent, loyal and she has not messed up. She hasn’t put a foot wrong and that is getting them upset. The better things get, the more upset they get. Of all the stories they could have came up with, they dish something like that out. How sad.
August 30th, 2008 19:51
Oh yeah alsgal, a 2009 wedding is in the works.
August 30th, 2008 19:54
The new article from DM demeaning James Middleton has infuriated me. Why do they insist on lifting content from such places?
Time to write them to complain.
August 30th, 2008 19:56
rman,I know a bit about copyright laws and these folks may be in trouble if the Middleton’s choose to pursue it. The site operator will legally have to turnover the IP addresses to the authorities and those parties can be prosecuted.I know of a simalir situation here in the US where this exact thing happened and it got ugly. The only thing that kept the guilty party from going to jail was the fact that they were underage.
August 30th, 2008 19:57
They can’t find anything on Kate so they attack her family. I just wonder what will come out of this? Let’s hope the Queen is as understanding! I really do hope that this is not a smear campaign that trails back to BP. I guess DM is going to continue to publish facebook photos of James and Pippa until what? They force an engagement announcement out of them. Something needs to stop this.
August 30th, 2008 20:00
I did write and complain. Lisa, I agree that legal action should be taken but if the IP are traced back to so-called friends of the Middletons I wonder if they will be as hard press to bing about charges?
August 30th, 2008 20:06
Lisa, I already posted this on another friendly royal site about the UK internet libel case involving Michael Keith-Smith in 2006. Apparently Mr. Keith-Smith was called some vicious names (nothing compared to what Kate and her family have been called) by a fellow chat room member whilst debating the Iraq war during 2003. Mr. Keith-Smith’s counsel tracked her down, and the judge fined the woman 10,000. pounds.
Libel is a serious issue, particularly when calculated and malicious intent to destroy another’s reputation can be proven, and I don’t think people realise that.
August 30th, 2008 20:08
The DM basically threw the IF and it’s posters under the bus so to speak, naming them and suggesting they have begun a smear campaign. That can be serious stuff. The pictures not withstanding,some of these people could be in trouble or fined. In addition,the animonisity they have could also be construed as a threat to Kate and that is serious. This thing has truely crossed the line and what is sad is that judging by some of the comments over there,they don’t have a clue.
August 30th, 2008 20:24
No wonder William and Kate seem to take vacations with either themselves of family members. I guess the only people you can trust is your family, in most cases anyway. I agree Lisa that the Middletons need to find these people and possibly end some friendships. I love the end of the DM article where they claim they went to the Middleton’s home and asked about the photos. Now the Queen has said William must do charity work too, according to DM. Poor James!
August 30th, 2008 20:34
Although I strongly believe that what people do, silly or not, in their private life is their business, I would think Kate might be feeling a bit raw at the moment knowing that her brother was not being very pragmatic when it came to either posting the photos (on FB iwas it?) and that he even allowed himself to be in a position where he was photographed. As I’ve posted, I think James is a handsome dear but he was probably being a bit naive to think this wouldn’t come out, and that it would potentially not flatter the family. Naive and a bit trusting for someone whose sister, as he himself has said, will be the future Queen of England.
I agree that a few “friendships” will probably be severed, and I imagine Kate will have to become even more “standoffish” after this — and who could blame the poor thing?
As is often said, who needs enemies when you have “friends” like this?
August 30th, 2008 21:27
Alsgal, I think James and Pippa should have had better judgement in allowing themselves to have photos taken in this manner, but I think it is wrong that the DM seems to be “outing” James if you get my drift with some of the language they use. That is where I feel bad for him and his family. IMO.
August 30th, 2008 22:19
I believe it was right for Pippa to tell the media last year “We don’t talk to the press” when Kate and William broke up and the media were pestering them outside the Middleton family home. I think that was a wise thing to do, as by agreeing to look at the photos of James and then saying “No” when asked to comment it makes them look defensive, which they shouldn’t be.
This highlights for me the need for PW and the whole CH press machine to step in ASAP and protect Kate, and also her brother.
August 31st, 2008 02:30
Why doesn’t BRW monitor the following people or keep them off:
***
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***
They add NOTHING positive to this site with all their vile comments and you just let them keep getting away with it, especially this *** person.
The site is getting worse each day because of their hateful remarks.
** BRW – Comments ARE monitored and ARE moderated in line with our Blog Comment Policy. If you don’t agree with what someone has written you can A. debate the topic without resorting to flaming the other person, or B. just ignore the post. Trust me, these things aren’t worth getting all worked up over! **
August 31st, 2008 02:39
Hello Jade Falzon,
Am I missing something here ?
Nothing positive ? Please enlighten me.
Vile comments ? Please explain
BRW; Can she get away with this comment ?
August 31st, 2008 02:43
gracie,
Seems someone is out to get me.
How do I sue ?
August 31st, 2008 02:53
Let’s all have a nice cup of tea and calm down…
August 31st, 2008 03:13
BRW,
Sorry but I do feel that this is going too far.
This used to be such a friendly site but suddenly a few arrive, who have been banned on other sites and get away with the most outrageous comments.
Surely some of these comment must transgress the rules and objects of the site and I acknowledge that at times I have reacted uncharacteristically when I have objected strongly at comment made.
These comments were obviously and correctly monitored but the tone of the site now seems to be getting out of hand and several objectional agendas are being systematically assembled very much to the detriment of this site.
I am sure that I am not alone with these feelings but it appears that reasonable commentators are now in the minority.
August 31st, 2008 03:16
Shall I even bother to read the newest DM “article” or would you advice me not to.
I gather they were using embarrassing pics of James to make up “news” again. I think it’s time for a law suit. The DM needs to be shown its boundaries or this b/s will never stop.
August 31st, 2008 03:41
Now maybe you understand why many people have left this site. How sad that certain people who post here are permitted to have nasty, downright comments printed, but you tend to edit those of myself and others who are fed up with the likes of FJAE and MERRICK.
I won’t be posting here anymore – your double standards are really pathetic.
** BRW – There hasn’t been double-standards. Everything is inline with the Blog Comment Policy. I’m sorry if occasionally people leave comments that annoy you but as I said before you have a couple of options. Simply getting upset and then posting a whinge and attacking other posters will get your comments moderated. **
August 31st, 2008 05:12
Hi ked,
I agree that lately there have been posters who look like they are intent on causing trouble. Comments have been moderated. But people that disagree with their opinions shouldn’t fall into the trap of lashing back at them by flaming or getting personal. I will moderate comments that fall into that category.
I do however disagree that things are getting out of hand. Apart from some heightened tensions today I feel overall that the site still has a positive rather than negative view on things.
Regards,
Steven
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