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Photos of the youngest Middleton that are sure to embarrass Kate! – Daily Mail
The flamboyant brother of Prince William’s girlfriend is seen in a variety of compromising poses that don’t spare his blushes – or Kate’s. And, thanks to what appears to be a smear campaign against Kate on the internet, they are now all freely available for anybody to see at the click of a mouse. The pictures, along with a barrage of criticism of 26-year-old Kate and her family, appear on the website www.theinternetforum.co.uk.
Anonymous members of the site’s message board – some of whom appear to know the Middletons – have posted photos and derogatory comments about what they see as Kate’s unsuitability as a future Queen…
Queen tells Charles: Get William a charity job – Daily Mail
The Queen’s concerns that Prince William’s girlfriend Kate Middleton does not have a job also extend to her 26-year-old grandson, I can report. Senior Buckingham Palace aides say she is worried that when William’s military attachments come to an end next year, there will be no public role for him. And in an effort to resolve the situation, she has consulted Prince Charles about devising some kind of charity role for William…
Prince William must dodge LIVE bullets – News Of The World
Brave Prince William will face live ammo fired by a crack SAS team in a dangerous anti-terror exercise. He will adopt the roles of both hostage and rescue team hero as he trains with the special forces. Troopers will shoot at targets-which represent terrorists—just inches from the future King’s head…
August 31st, 2008 03:25
It sounds really stupid to me that the media is publishing this kind of photos. 21 year old people (not all but some) are usually like this, they do crazy things and joke around with friends, but there is nothing wrong with that as soon as they dont do it in public and as soon as it doesnt bring any sort of damage to other people.
It is obvious that these pictures are being published by those middle class jeaulous people who cant stand the idea that a girl from their same social status has been able to achieve something they can’t achive: climb to a higher social status. I bet that if KM was a titled aristocrat (from birth) people wouldnt be criticizing her so much.
As other people have mentioned before, KM does seem to do nothing except being available for whenever william needs her and wait for that engagement, but in fact noone can be 100% certain that this is something true. We don’t know anything about her and about the things that her as a royal girlfriend can and can’t do.
I believe that the media is going against KM as well because it is publishing these photos and therefore initiating a campaign against her.
If people and the media hate KM so much, why do they have to involve her family. Her family has nothing to do with this, and I believe that james should identify the traitor who published his pictures and sue this person for violating his privacy.
All of this just sounds so stupid to me.
August 31st, 2008 03:38
Hello,
I believe that The DM have this time gone too far.
It will be interesting to see how the writs are given out during next week as it seems like the Editor of the DM has done this to provoke a reaction and for that may be up before the PCC.
Shades of A Daily Mirror type sacking could be on the cards as the owners will almost certainly be targeted.
Or even a “Merseyside Type” boycott similar to The Sun boycott.
This week could be very interesting
August 31st, 2008 03:44
Totally unprofessional story from the DM. And picking up quotes from public forums as sources? Ridiculous! I guess they couldn’t find enough dirt on Kate, so they pick on her family instead. I feel for this family…
August 31st, 2008 03:49
A slightly different take on Kate’s “job” issue from the Daily Express Weekend:
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Monarch Accepts Kate’s Work Life, say Friends
FRIENDS of Kate Middleton have hit back at claims that she is work-shy and revealed that she has been secretly grafting full-time for her parents. Sources close to Prince William’s long-term girlfriend have rubbished reports that the Queen has expressed concern about her lack of a career, writes Camilla Tominey.
The Queen is also said to have urged her to work for charity to counter the public perception that she is a lady of leisure.
A very well-placed source said: “It is a load of nonsense. Kate has got a job, she is working for her parents full-time.”
Last month the Sunday Express revealed how Kate, 26, had been working for her parents’ mail order company Party Pieces after she was photographed heaving cardboard boxes at the headquarters of the Middletons’ multi-million-pound empire in Reading.
The art history graduate, who met William at St Andrews University, decided on the compromise having made several unsuccessful attempts at launching a career.
She was forced to give up her job as an accessories buyer at fashion chain Jigsaw after less than a year last November, partly because she was besieged by paparazzi on the way to and from work.
Belle Robinson, who owns the High Street clothing stores with her husband John, recently shed more light on Kate’s resignation, saying: “She genuinely wanted a job but she needed an element of flexibility to continue the relationship with a very high profile man and a life she can’t dictate.”
A source close to Kate and William said: “Working for the family business gives Kate the flexibility she needs and keeps her out of the limelight while William continues with his military commitments.
It has never been a case of her being work-shy, it’s just that she is in an awkward position because she knows that if she one day marries William, she will have to give up her career anyway.”
Kate took the decision to move out of London and back with her parents at their five-bedroom home in Bucklebury, Berkshire, earlier this year.
Her younger sister, Pippa, 23, is now living at Kate’s flat near the Kings Road, giving Kate the option of staying there when she is in the capital, although she also has a key to Clarence House, Prince Charles’s London residence.
William’s girlfriend of five years has been nicknamed “Waity Katie” by critics who have slated her for doing nothing but socialise and shop until the second-in-line decides to propose.
SPECULATION is rife that the couple will announce their engagement next spring with a view to a summer wedding as William is due to leave the military in the New Year to start life as a full-time working royal. However, a source close to the Prince this week suggested that such predictions may be premature. “They are both very young and William has got a lot on his plate next year. I wouldn’t hold your breath.”
Suggestions that the Queen has urged Kate to get a job are wide of the mark, not least because the Queen knows she has been working for her parents.
According to royal insiders, the Queen is happy for Kate to keep a low profile while she still can and, far from criticising her lack of career, is sympathetic to her situation.
After all, it was the Queen who advised Sophie Rhys Jones to sacrifice her PR career for a life of royal duty after she married Prince Edward and was duped in the “fake sheik” scandal into making indiscreet remarks to an undercover reporter.
Attempts by Kate to forge a career in photography and fashion appear to have been thwarted by her position as Princess-in-waiting and Clarence House’s desire to keep her out of the limelight.
Last August she had to pull out of a charity dragon boat race across the Channel over fears the safety of the crew might be compromised by the paparazzi.
August 31st, 2008 04:05
OMG! I’m am so sorry for the Middletons. There was another poll there about whether she should be a future queen, created by someone else but if they do mean the one that I created “should they marry….”….I am actually really upset now that the press may have used that in that way. I assure you it was intended for OUR use not theres.
The DM has gone too far this time and that is just plain cruel and vindictive.
I’m really really upset that it was my poll that made them write that.
August 31st, 2008 04:37
Hello B,
I did mention that you may have put yourself in the firing line.
It doesn’t mean they did poach your poll but believe me your comments would have been noted.
The press are desparate and now need daily stories to maintain their circulation especially that circulation that relates to PW/KM et al.,and will use anything to get a story, any stort.
August 31st, 2008 04:43
I don’t believe that I was specifically referred to as I have not made comments on that board for a very long time (apart from yesterday).
Besides, i don’t know the Middletons not in the true sense, and I asked Steven to delete those comments after your warning to be sure that they would not use them. Mind you, I hadn’t really said anything that they could use anyway.
I’m just leaving all royal boards now as I am so annoyed that people would use someone elses personal opinion to smear Kate. I’m just upset that they had not at least balanced it with positive opinons. Anyway, I’m going. Bye everyone, miss you all.
August 31st, 2008 05:02
B,
Please don’t be so silly.
You are one of the sensible people on here and I will miss you as will many others.
Please reconsider and don’t let these morons on here or in the press get to you.
Come on girl get out there and fight your conrner,
PLEASE
August 31st, 2008 05:05
I don’t mean to sound silly but I am afraid that I will be used like another girl was on another site.
I’ll miss you too and maybe I will come back one day under a different name, but I think it is for the best at least for the moment.
B
August 31st, 2008 05:06
P.S. Steven: can you delete my personal information please? I don’t know how much you have stored, but if you do have some, I would like it to be removed.
Thanks.
** BRW – Done. Please keep visiting the site and we hope to see you back posting again soon. **
August 31st, 2008 06:08
What bothers me is that the DM frames certain forums for their behaviour and yet they still print the photo that is going to cause embarrassment to the Middletons. If they had any sense at all they wouldn’t.
I personally don’t think the DM is any better then the forum concerned as I think in recent weeks they’ve also been leading a smear campaign against Kate. The DM have gone down in my books. They smear Kate and yet they use people in forums to hide behind.
Katie Nicholls, is an example, still banging on about how the Queen wants Kate to get a job. She’s picking on William now as well. Give it a rest, Katie.
August 31st, 2008 06:18
Hello all,
Over the past 8 months the DM has changed it’s reporting of initially KM and her family and PW.
They have reacted to the loss of what was a reasonable contact with CH by becoming greedy. The incorrect stories they reported was obviously the trap that was set for them and their contacts were discovered and closed down.
A large part of their circulation depended upon these contacts and stories of the RF and to have these cut off was a desperate situation for their editors. T heir desperation was compounded because other rags, THe Sun and The Mirror started printing reports that were closer to truth and the DM panicked and made the poor choice of attacking the weakest link, the Middleton family members.
This choice by editorial staff will now have serious conseq
August 31st, 2008 06:21
To continue;
consequences on their editors, owners and shareholders who will now be targeted and their chances of honours and privileged places in society . As they are named and shamed even friends of years standing will gradually turn away.
The RF is a bad enemy even in these days and reactions over the next few months will be very interesting.
August 31st, 2008 06:23
Middleton’s family as clown family, i guess. they like another normal family, sometime has a joke he…he..James are a funny young man i ever see, his can change become effeminate and naked guy HA…HA…HA…so amusing man! maybe at Middleton’s family just James, the only member family of middleton so amusing than else
August 31st, 2008 07:03
BRW,
S.
Noticed your response and will concur and continue to support ideals of the blog.
I will however miss B and her sparkling coments but note that she may come back with new Non de plume.
Hope it’s soon and I’m sure I spot her??!!
Regards,.
August 31st, 2008 07:11
I actually pity some sensible people in the forums in question… and yes, there are a few sensible ones. I’m not sure the DM is hiding behind them in order to smear Kate and her family. I think the DM is inspired by people like them, take ideas from them, and in fact write articles such as this for people like them. Ironically, many of them didn’t like the DM lifting their quotes without permission. Ah, the drama…
August 31st, 2008 07:17
The morale of the story is (famous or not) …don’t allow any pictures to be taken of you that you would not be comfortable seeing on the front page of the newspaper. Sad, but very true
August 31st, 2008 07:47
Isn’t it funny that those who smear Kate’s name on a daily basis don’t quite enjoy being called on their own wrong doing publicly? Serves them right to be exposed as the source of this ridiculous attack on the Middletons. Apparently being the center of public attacks isn’t all that much fun – oh the irony….
Ked, I agree about hte DM. I also have the feeling that the string of wrong stories were a trick to reveil certain sources. The DM doesn’t have any access ot the RF anymore hence they resort to quote forums.
August 31st, 2008 08:07
On another more positive note: from the Sunday Express:
WILLIAM AND HARRY HERALD ROYAL REVOLUTION
The two young princes have vowed to turn their back on tradition and follow in their mother Princess Diana’s footsteps by concentrating on only a handful of charities as working royals so that they can take on a more hands-on role.
http://www.express.co.uk/blogs/post/267/blog/2008/06/13/48194/William%20and%20Harry%20herald%20royal%20revolution
August 31st, 2008 08:08
The sensible ones should be a little nervous. There are some delusional ones who don’t quite get what kind of problems that will dwarf negative reactions and attacks on their site that could be in store for them.
I have been vindicated. Everything I’ve said about their tactics has been validated by that Daily Mail article. Every single thing.
August 31st, 2008 08:15
Guest, hopefully people will have the common sense not to go on the site and reply to the people on there. Most people wouldn’t bother as it’s not worth the effort.
August 31st, 2008 08:17
Trixie,
Look for reaction from management at DM when the seriousness of these silly reporters is brought home to them.
The editor must be really worried about his circulation numbers to countenance such a degrading method of finding stories and the reporters themselves may well be desperate to retain their contracts.
Their chances of ever getting into journalism in the future will be negligible despite their closed shop attitude as attitudes in the stablishment harden and seek to maintain their own privileges and society status.
I have reasonable contact with many sport journalists who when approached about such tactics are very non committal ,thus to me suggesting that there are problems at DM.
Their RF stories have been the stalwart of their gossip pages and as these have been shown to be doubtful readers very quickly change allegiance and in honesty Sun,Mirror and Express have all recently provided more interesting and reliable stories thus reducing status and circulation of DM.
August 31st, 2008 08:21
Hello Ela, are you new ?
Welcome anyway !!??
August 31st, 2008 08:22
Guest,
What you have are “friends” of the Middleton’s on the fringes who are jealous of Kate, who are being used by idiotic wannabe free speechers “like, it’s our right to say our opinions” who have no idea about UK Internet libel law as they are too young and too dumb to understand. They think by using proxy internet servers they have covered their you-know-whats but seem blissfully unaware that the woman fined 10,000.UK for smearing a fellow chat room member in 2006 had also been using one.
There is no such thing as anonymity online.
August 31st, 2008 08:39
Hello,
I think one or two people are in for shocks this week.
August 31st, 2008 08:43
Ked, I hope so. I hope the Middletons make a stink out of this.
I don’t agree with it of course, but going after Kate is one thing, going after her family as these people do repeatedly, is another.
August 31st, 2008 08:50
Alsgal – I’ve seen the forum concerned and haven’t seen anything yet that concerns me as illegal. They’re just people who haven’t got anything better to do with their time.
August 31st, 2008 08:51
Guest,
I’m sure their legal counsel Harbottle and Lewis are most familiar with Keith Smith vs. Williams (2006) and have conveyed to the Middletons that they are able to go after individual members and not merely the site owners.
August 31st, 2008 08:55
legally I think the Internet Forum will face a tough week. A wake up call for sure. The DM sold them out,using them as a shield to get the smut out there without repercussions. I would not be surprise one bit to see that website gone in the very near future. Either by choice of the webmaster or by order. It will be interesting to watch for sure. The lesson learned from this is that you cannot hide behind a screename on a website and spewing slanderous comments day in and day out without it catching up at some point. Thanks to the DM,the IF is about to find that out.
Have a nice day all.:)
August 31st, 2008 08:57
Sorry for the double post
Fixx,
I’m sorry but I must disagree as I have also read what has been written and this appears part of a deliberate campaign to smear someone’s reputation, which is quite different than merely voicing one’s opinion. Some of the names Kate has been called online are far worse then what M. Keith Smith was called by the unemployed teacher in that chatroom.
August 31st, 2008 09:00
Absolutely agree alsgal. They have gone too far. And I will be watching to see what happens.
August 31st, 2008 09:01
I do hope Middleton’s take legal action against this smear campaign. It will be interesting how many friendships will be severed because of this. I agree with Ked, I do not think having RF angry at you is a good thing. Some of these poster are probably from aristo backgrounds and their posting these pics will no doubt cause problems with their families who might not even know it is being done. I am surprised that action has not be done already to get these photos down from the DM site.
August 31st, 2008 09:03
Does the Daily Mail allow comments? I find it hard to believe no one has responded to comments to its article.
August 31st, 2008 09:10
Guest, yes they do and I have no idea how they decide whose gets put up. It seems they tend to put only the negative responses up though. I am surprised the story is still on their site to be honest. I thought something would have been done to take it down by now. The Middleton are in a tough spot because to press charges means finding out that these posters could be good friends of the family and therefore the Middletons might want to take care of this discreetly. I am hoping they take legal action.
August 31st, 2008 09:17
Gracie, they are not good friends if they are anonymously going online, trashing their friends, all for tabloid writers to pick up and re-print. Otherwise, I agree totally with you.
August 31st, 2008 09:47
Hello,
What we have here is clasic smear jounalism.
When you can’t find anything incriminating against the principal then attack the vulnerable weakest link. In this case it’s KM’s siblings and parents.
I’m sorry but how low can you get ?
When the name of the culprits are disclosed I have the feeling that their parents or close associate may want to keep clear. Their life is then on hold and possibly ruined and if it has been done for financial reward then I think a criminal act as well as a civil act may well have been committed.
Can you imagine the close friends and family’s agony as a committal sentence is handed out, and it most certainly would be ,first offense or not. Magistrates and Judges swear allegiance to the crown and in the past the crown has never been slow to punish.
I would think that all members of JM’s Facebook or other source will be very nervous over the next week or so and I’d be very surprised if there have been several “not me” phone calls today.
God help them
August 31st, 2008 09:53
Guest, no they are not good friends for posting these photos, but they could be a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.” There are alot of those around the royal circle and have been for centuries. Jealous people who do not like the Middleton’s position with the RF and will do and say horrible things behind their backs and all the while still go out to tea with them as if they are the best of friends!
August 31st, 2008 10:02
Ked, if Kate’s position has rose in the RF to that of fiance, don’t you think RF/CH would have done a type of background check w/in the Middleton household? To prevent these type of things from happening. Those photos are not new and why now are they being released? Perhaps I expect to much. But I would think the closer Kate and William get to the alter more cleaning up of family backgrounds would be done. IMO.
August 31st, 2008 10:02
Beware of the backstabbers that’s for sure.
August 31st, 2008 11:05
The only thing that could get the forum concerned in to trouble is if James decides there is a breach of privacy. UK doesn’t really have an effective privacy law but the EU does. Other then that it would be difficult to prove that the forum is breach of libel.
It can only be done if the Middletons can prove that what is written about them is false and the people making the allegations would have to prove that they are right.
On the basis of name calling it would have to be something really damaging in order for them to sue and something which degrades their characters. Example calling Kate a golddigger or a wh*re etc. Could be regarded as really damaging and she could sue. But she would need to prove the allegations as false and also she would need evidence.
There is also the defence of a ‘fair comment’. Which is there to protect someone for a simple opinion such as ‘i don’t like someone because I think their lazy.’ It would be very difficult to prove that as libel as it can be regarded as a simple opinion and someone won’t sue you just because you don’t like them.
It has to be something really damaging in order to sue and I haven’t seen anything on that forum that is really damaging. James’s picture maybe but that is the only thing I’ve seen so far.
Alot of the comments would be seen as just opinions.If the Middletons wanted to sue then they would have to prove what the people there are saying is false. Since the press have printed similar stories about Kate that has been commented on in the forum concerned sueing would be difficult for the Middletons unless they can prove what is being written is false.
But pictures of private family members i.e. James taken from facebook could be seen as a breach of privacy and that is the only thing that can really get them in to trouble. But suing for breach of privacy in the UK is pretty difficult as the UK doesn’t really have privacy laws. They’d have to go to the EU if they wanted something done.
August 31st, 2008 11:06
I don’t think the RF or the Middletons think about these pictures as damaging. They are not. Hey, Harry survived his Nazi-picture and Charles the pic of his very private parts. These pics of James can’t even compete wuth those.
I do hope that the pics can be damaging for the Daily Mail, though.
I don’t think the posters on that forum are friends of the Middletons. They are American and Australian, very few are British. One poster, who now has said she will stop posting(!), is British and may know some people who know James, Pippa and Kate. She started the whole thing by posting those pictures and she was quoted the last time they used that forum as their source.(Another article about Pippa and James). But she is the only one, the others think they know them very well because of everything they have read about them, not least on their own board, but they obviousy don’t know more than you and I. Some of them have a little bit of a hard time today. They are the ones with a conscience and a heart.
August 31st, 2008 11:07
I’ve been saying all along that The Queen knows that Kate works for her family and everything is okay with them. The media is going nuts but everything seem to be calm in the royal household. I agree that William & Harry is doing things their way and doing it the modern way. This is a new generation and although they will uphold the traditions of the royal family, they also will put a more modern touch the their work and duties.
August 31st, 2008 11:32
gracie,
The photographs are reprinted again because there is nothing else to print so to spite KM,her family and even PW they find something to sell their paper.
If there were photographs of PW.KM returning from holiday or walking at Balmoral then they would prefer to print them, but to maintain their circulation they had to find something.
I like many people blame the reporters but suddenly it becomes clear. It isn’t just the reporters to blame , it’s the Editor or the owner who demands a dramatic front page story for the weekend paper.
Have people cut down on the number of papers they now buy at weekends because of financial hardship so to attract sales they must have their page on PW/KM and/or family?
Has the DM and MoS now lost all their credibility by publishing their untrue rubbish stories because they have lost their connections or do other papers now pay more for the stories that are circulating?
It is so sad that papers,editors, reporters and owners have to try to discredit a young lady and her family to stay financially viable. The public will make their own decision as/when PW/KM make their decisions then rest assured the DM will be the one out in the cold.
I think we should all contribute to their downfall and the public at large will eventually make their views known.
August 31st, 2008 12:47
The Daily Mail has used private photos of Chelsy for many years and written things which could be called damaging to her reputation, not once did any of you go into overdrive at how her rights may have been violated.
It is amazing how calmly the Middleton’s went to the door to see what the Daily Mail wanted. Something I feel they have been doing all along, for years, but usually with positive results for Kate. This was not the first time, the door may have been answered I would bet.
August 31st, 2008 13:01
Hello,
Seems we have another one on here
August 31st, 2008 13:31
The Daily Mail has used private photos of Chelsy for years, never heard all the crying.
If there are legal repurcussions on use of those photos, something should have happened long ago when they were used in a damaging way for others,like Chelsy and even Harry.
The Middleton’s must take the good press with the bad. Kate has been getting bad press for months now, but she also got years of positive press.
August 31st, 2008 13:52
I know everybody is fired up about the DM’s hatchet job on James but was I the only one who thought the Express article posted by dagsi made Kate out to be not that intelligent? Yes, it says she works full time for her parents. But correct me if I’m wrong but Tominey basically says that Kate hasn’t started her actual career because of the off chance she might marry William. Here’s the quote- “It has never been a case of her being work-shy, it’s just that she is in an awkward position because she knows that if she one day marries William, she will have to give up her career anyway.” Excuse me? Kate doesn’t know after 5 years whether or not she’s going to marry William? She’s arranging her life around him without being 99.9% sure of his intention to marry her? She took him back and allowed him to parade her around in public without a commitment from him? That isn’t a very smart thing for her to do. Then again I have no idea how reliable the Express is. It’s a tabloid so it might be as bad as all the rest. But that part of the article really caught my attention.
August 31st, 2008 13:54
Joanne m., yes it is true that Chelsy photos get printed in the DM. These pictures are of James and Pippa they are printing not Kate. Chelsy brother and family are fortunate to live in South Africa were they are not under the constant scrutiny that they would recieve if they lived in UK. I like Chelsy, but she has had her drunken photos in the DM in the past and she continues to put herself in the same situations by getting drunk and having photos taken. That is irresponsible. If they want to pick on Kate or Chelsy that’s one thing but to go after their siblings is just wrong. I don’t know James sexual orientation but I think it’s wrong for DM to “out” a man, or imply his sexual preferences when that is something that is nobody’s business except for him and his family. Perhaps I am reading to much into the article, but that is the impression I get.
August 31st, 2008 14:05
I agree fixx, alsgal is attempting to scare people that have no knowledge of the legal system into no longer posting their opinion. The press have been doing it for years to chelsy because pictures are made public by posting on the website facebook. Reprinting them or posting them in a forum is perfectly legal. That is why the Daily Mail did it. Kate must be kissing her lucky stars tonight that she has no friends and as a result no compromising photos of her on facebook, because that would be the goody two shoes downfall. Don’t let these arm chair legal no nothings stop you from posting your opinion…you can post opinion. And the other thing is the SICK arrogance of kate and her friends to speak for the queen! Wow is she and her friends brazen. Remember websites like perezhilton have not been closed down for years the royal internet forum will be there for years as long as they don’t buckle to what the nutters are saying. How could the middletons sue people in different countries! There is no international libel law! You people need to stop fear mongering, kate ,s goose and her families goose is COOKED!
August 31st, 2008 14:35
fjae, they did not print any embarrassing online pics of KATE – which would be comparable to Chelsy but of her brother JAMES. James is NOT a public person. Even if one followed the argument that both Chelsy and Kate are, their family members certainly are not.
The difference with Kate is that she’s CLEVER enough to KNOW not to put party pics online unlike dear academic Chelsy who can’t figure that simple rule out for the live of her. Some great friends she has who over and over again subject her to ridicule and embarrassment by publishing her private pics. She can be proud of her crowd! :rolleyes:
It’s careless for both Chelsy and James to allow such pics to be put online or even do so themselves but James had far less reason to believe they’d end up in a paper than Chelsy.
Interesting that all the friends Kate does not have according to you, serve well enough as source of criticism when it suits you. So Kate doesn’t have any friends but those she doesn’t have talk to the papers and pretend to speak for the Queen … yeah right!
August 31st, 2008 14:46
I think some people (maybe even The Palace) may be wondering why the Middleton’s seem not suprised or at first bothered that the reporter was at their door and opened it. More to come on that,I feel.
I have always felt from the beginning in this romance that someone close to Kate was leaking things on holidays,potential engagement possiblities,jobs for Kate, and a variety of tidbits on Kate.
I think in the past Chelsy has been skewered by the Daily Mail in use of personal photos over the years and most articles that said she was tipsy, were photos of her laughing mostly, or being tickled and out with friends, which didn’t bother me really. Still they used personal photos of her and there was no outcry and she could have run to the PCC long ago about several things the press has done, but she hasn”t. Now she is getting more positive press than Kate.
I have seen photos of Kate looking drunk and bleery eyed with headlines in The Sun, saying she was tipsy and other UK press calling her coctail Kate, but that did not mean it was true.
The press has lately taken a turn for the worse for Miss Middleton, but I really think Kate not doing much with herself in the way of working or a career has brought much of the bad press on herself.
August 31st, 2008 14:55
I don’t believe half of what the DM says, cause they end up getting it wrong or change their story. The part at the end of DM article about going to the Middleton’s sounds made up. It’s their way of trying to say the Middleton’s are fine with them printing these photos of James. That’s all. No loving parent would want or enjoy their children photos to be in a tabloid paper in this manner!
August 31st, 2008 14:57
How would they have known the stranger at their door was a journalist. Do they have a big sign on their forehead – “Beware gossip journalist!”? It is the reasonable thing to do to open the door when someone rings. All they said according to the DM were two word “Yes” and “No”. You’re right they shouldn’t be talking to the press – these blabbermouths!
Right Chelsy Davy was never drunk in any of those party pics! She just being independent and having fun but that Kate – my she’s really a boozer!
Honestly the biase against Kate is ridiculous. Even the smallest tiniest bit of information is twisted to the negative. So the press was unfair towards Chelsy in the past and now that makes it right for them to be unfair towards Kate and her whole family as well? Chelsy brought large parts of her unfair press upon herself when she repeatedly made a fool of herself trying to hide from the paps leaving clubs and usually looks horrible on the way. Kate may deserve criticism for not working but that’s that and her bother’s party pics have nothing to do with Kate’s lack of a job. Neither does calling her a party girl or seriel shopper when she’s anything but.
August 31st, 2008 15:13
The press now calls Kate a Party girl, they have taken a negative view of her and sadly it is leaking over into her brother, because of photos revealed. He looks like a nice guy I think, pretty harmless, just a young guy having fun, no big deal. The press put the negative slant on the story.
I think the Middleton’s have always had a relationship with the press, but that is just my opinion.
August 31st, 2008 15:13
Hello and Goodbye
This is not what I want to read or be associated with.
Thanks to all.
August 31st, 2008 15:26
ked,
I’m with you. If I wanted to read this vile, nonsensical bulls*** from the Kate haters I would still be posting at the IF. I’ll be over at RA for the next few weeks. Hopefully Steven will change his mind & not allow these people to poison his website anymore than they already have.
August 31st, 2008 15:28
Yes you are right I should have clarified, kate has no friends, the friends speaking for her on behalf of the queen are pippa and mama mids, those are her only real friends, family who stand to benefit from the association withe future king of england. Bye ked you won’t be missed!
August 31st, 2008 16:02
I would like to point out to all these “kate haters” that they can try to malign Kate, her family, her family dog and her family goldfish and it won’t make one IOTA of a difference in the grand scheme of things. If William is going to marry Kate, he is going to MARRY KATE. No negative press, no foolish internet posters or misguided editors will change that. Get a life and GET OVER IT. Move onto something you can control. Because no one here, not you, nor I can affect a change in the outcome of this couple.
August 31st, 2008 16:11
I highly doubt they are getting married at all, she is a liability and trhough his actions he doesn’t think of her that way. Whether we affect change or not remains to be seen but we do have aright to an opinion without been called a hater which is the kate lovers way of counteracting truth
August 31st, 2008 16:20
You are a hater. Don’t even try and convince others that you dislike Kate. That would be an incorrect statement. You hate her, plain and simple. I know it’s your right to write negative things about her, but at least admit it for once that you hate her. Don’t act like those iditots at the IF who can write pages and pages on the difference between dislike and hate. At the end of the day, you hate her…period!
August 31st, 2008 16:25
Hello, Ked and thank you for the welcome. I’m more of a lurker than a poster:)
August 31st, 2008 16:27
She isn’t hitler! Stop with your need to say that people hate her, finding her lifestyle vile is one thing, hating her is another…you kate lovers with no critical thought ability think in black and white..try and learn life is full of grey
August 31st, 2008 16:30
I wonder why James feels the need to dress like a woman. He does look fetching, though.
August 31st, 2008 16:48
I am perplexed by your choice of adjectives,fjae. “vile” is quite a strong word. I can’t find anything in KM’s past or present to cause such a strong reaction. She is college educated, bright, in a healthy relationship and has, to my knowledge, not committed any felonies or murdered any puppies.Why would you consider her ‘vile”? Because she is not, in your opinion, gainfully employed? Because working for her parents in their successful family business is not good enough for you? Or maybe it is because she has a boyfriend who is wealthy, takes her on holiday’s and treats her well? Maybe because her future may include a title,wealth and a husband who will be king someday? I suspect her life is just too good for you and the others who share your unhealthy hatred to understand or embrace.
August 31st, 2008 16:49
fjae,
I think in all colors if that is what you are looking for.
You mention all kate lovers think in black and white. You say all!!! What are you talking about. You sound like a child. And yes you must think in grey because that is the color of smoke screens.
I said it once and I will repeat it again and again….you hate her, period.
And besides, what does this have to do with Hitler?
August 31st, 2008 17:26
Lisa- her vile lifestyle is one of waiting around for a man to give her meaning, the fact that she is financed by her parents at 26, she would accept an invitation to an event at the last minute becasue her boyfriend doesn’t want anyone to think they are more serious than they actually are, there is no proven work except for work week at jigsaw that meant she had to be servicing her boyfriend and it would take her away from the job for most days out of most months, her constant need to vacation to the most expensive places flying in the face of the people of the uk who are struggling to make ends meet, her arrogant nature of ignoring the calls to her to change her over indulged overly middle class lifestyle wanna be upper class is just disgusting. Just for a start. Again with the jealousy card what kate sycophants use to spray all people who seek the truth and speak it! Carla say it all you want doesn’t make it true, you must be very slow, you are living in black and white …grey is where the truth lies
August 31st, 2008 17:31
Hey this legal no-nothing only repeated what happened in an Internet libel case in Britain.
Where’s your law degree from, dear?
If you are intelligent enough to Google Michael Keith vs. Williams you can see what happened for yourself. Perhaps you’re not.
The facts speak for themselves; I don’t need to.
Whether the Middleton’s will choose to prosecute is another matter and not for me to say.
August 31st, 2008 17:59
fjae, you talk about things being grey, yet you don’t practice what you preach. You claim to know the purpose of KM’s life. You claim to know where she gets her money, how she spends her time and even her deepest desires. You also seem to think you know the inner thoughts and feelings of the future king.
I am very sorry if your family is one of the ones in the UK who are struggleing. My family in the US is having a tough time of it too. It will not help you or your family to harbour such hate toward people who you have never met and do not know. PW and KM don’t owe you or anybody else an apology because they can afford several vacations a year and others cannot. If William is not comfortable with his longtime partner working in public where she is followed everyday by aggressive papparazzi photographing her every move and possibly putting her in harms way,he may have suggested she leave that and hold a lower profile. Remember the “grey” are you speak of? Try looking at something from another angle, you may be surprised how many possibilities exist.
August 31st, 2008 18:34
Steven – Doesn’t it bother you that people are leaving this site because of people like FJAE, whom you have let get away with posting such awful remarks? Isn’t that a wakeup call to BRW? This will be my last post because I see you deleted my other posts – there is a definite double standard going on here and the discussions on this site are no longer healthy disagreements – just nasty, cruel comments towards and about other people. This FJAE is not right in the head!
August 31st, 2008 18:43
She was not besieged by paps on a daily basis that is simply her excuse. She had one or two photgs following her maybe once a week, belle robinson even said she left by the front door right into the paps taking pictures on the occations they were there. She was besieged once and that was on her birthday. She quit because for how little she worked she couldn’t hack it.
Charming crawl back in your whole! You are vile!
I do know about libel and what you are quoting does not apply to the internet forum, there is no international libel law, they can’t prosecute outside of the uk and plus it isn’t libel what these people are saying about a public figure if they are in the uk, they are repeating what is said in articles OR stating their opinion and you seem to be the one without the knowledge of law, the cases would have to have more similarities to be used as a precedent if they were taken to court. And that is coming from an international lawyer, not a woman with a husband that does or did work at tim hortons because her arm chair no nothing law drivel brings in no cash. If the case did mean something I could sue many of you for your ridiculous attacks on me! But you won’t chase out the people who have truth to ad to this website, with your low handed insults!
August 31st, 2008 18:51
Jade I was just told to ‘crawl into my hole’ so I think that you might be the pot calling the kettle …just a little. People aren’t leaving one did because of the media and the other couldn’t hack having other opinions on here. I haven’t once asked for you or your other little firends to leave even though you are so threatned and acting like a paranoid poster. If your posts were removed it is because they deserved to be removed! Live with it
August 31st, 2008 18:59
fjae,this is my last response to you tonight but I have a few points left.
“She was not besieged by paps on a daily basis that is simply her excuse”
When exactly did she make that excuse? Did I miss something?
“”She quit because for how little she worked she couldn’t hack it.”
And Kate told you this when?
“it isn’t libel what these people are saying about a public figure”
Kate Middleton is a PRIVATE CITIZEN. Until she becomes engaged or marries Prince William she is a private citizen, not a public figure.
“And that is coming from an international lawyer, not a woman with a husband that does or did work at tim hortons because her arm chair no nothing law drivel brings in no cash.”
Now you are insulting other posters which hopefully will get you banned from this site.
August 31st, 2008 19:07
Her excuse for not working.
She is asking cut rate deals on cars and her freebie dresses because she will be photographed in them, she has made herself a public figure.
Hopefully your witch hunt will end with you being banned, that was not an insult it was an observation. Your yelling betrays your lack of confidence in what you are saying, grow up
August 31st, 2008 19:33
omg… enough already! Not on this site, too.
BRW — please do something!
August 31st, 2008 19:42
Guys, check out this story…I bet it is going to be all over the news soon.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1631531.ece
August 31st, 2008 20:03
Hahahaha!
Lisa I wonder what all the naysayers who said William doesn’t love Kate because we’ve never seen him shagging her on the sidewalk will say now? Lots of pictures of them cuddling, eh? Just as I suspected.
So, since those same people didn’t believe he loved her because there wasn’t photographic proof, will they now bother to apply this same logic to the fact that Kate might very well be working for her parents full time, despite the lack of daily photgraphic evidence?
I’m doubting they are smart enough to make such an intellectual jump — to realise not everything needs to be accompanied by an instant photo to be true.
Nice to see the story mentioned pics of William wearinga silly hat, so that would make me think he has a typical British public schoolboy’s sense of humour about dressing in silly clothes. Therefore I doubt these so-called scandalous pictures of James (while maybe a bit embarrassing to Granny types) don’t amount to a hill of beans nor will they affect William and his relationship with Kate. If some people weren’t so obviously lower class and narrow minded, they’d understand James and Pippa aren’t behaving any differently then anyone else in their group.
Like I say, life’s not fair. Some people have a more luxurious lifestyle then others. These silly folks can yammer on about the Queen being the epitome of thrift, and that Kate should be more like her, but HM lives in 4 houses for goodness sakes, so to those who attack Kate & William I say get a grip and stop placing so much emphasis on silly appearances.
August 31st, 2008 20:37
This story reminds me of something similar that happened to Brad and Angelina a couple of years ago. Her brothers media card was in his camera when it was in for repair and it was stolen. The guys tried to shop the pictures around the internet and ended up getting caught. I wonder how these guys got Pippa’s camera? They said the police report was from Chelsa and Kenningston so maybe she did not know exactly where it was when it was taken. I would not mind hearing more details of this story.
August 31st, 2008 20:46
Oh I am sure you and alsgal will be claiming that some one from the internet forum stole it and tha liable laws apply hahahahah so stupid! I wonder why pippa felt the need to photograph kate gropping william…pretty odd
August 31st, 2008 21:01
I believe the term used was cuddling
August 31st, 2008 21:05
Lisa,
I find the timing of the whole thing curious. I’m sure the tabs keep in contact with a few friends in the police department in the high profile areas like Chelsea/Kensington/Holland Park so they can be the first to scoop any news of a robbery or whatnot involving someone famous.
There is a lot of this type of activity in London, and even in the nicer areas burglary is common.
The camera was reported stolen at noon on Friday.
The Daily Mail sent a reporter to the Middleton’s house the next day.
Could it be the DM were frustrated they didn’t get the scoop, and so the Mail aired the James Middleton story instead (with pictures that have been around for ages, which makes me think they keep a few stories lurking on the back burner) in an attempt to gain coverage?
These criminals could have easily taken it from Pippa’s purse at her place of employment, or maybe the theft occurred the evening before and she only realised it on Friday?
I feel sorry for anyone in the public eye, that there are so many untrustworthy people around. They must never let their guard down, not even for a moment.
August 31st, 2008 21:16
Great minds think alike:) I was thinking on the same line that the DM was scooped once again,lol.Now in regards to the SUN. I would imagine the police alerted some of the usual suspects(the Sun,The express,the Mail etc) that this media card was out there and it was stolen and to expect it to be presented to them, Do I think for a moment that the Sun is above printing picture of which they do not know the origin. Heck NO. LOL. Had they not been made aware of the thieft, I would imagine our viewing pleasure this weekend would have been a whole lot better then a few silly shots of James!
Having said that…I think that Pippa and her family need to be more careful about even taking any pictures of Kate and William under the circumstances. I am sure Pippa was very upset. It was a bad week for the Middletons.
August 31st, 2008 21:27
I think you’re right, lisa. The Sun had no choice but to turn the stolen pictures in. Since it was reported missing, they would have been legally bound to do the proper thing.
August 31st, 2008 21:29
Lisa,
As usual I see your POV and I agree.
This Sun/Duncan guy has broken a few scoops about PW and Kate, so he might be one of the few reporters to have an “in” with PW and Kate, and might be hoping that by doing something nice now, they will do something nice for him later, perhaps? He might be the first to learn of a proposal, for instance.
Yes, it was a tough week for the Middletons, that is for sure, but once again they behaved impeccably and with dignity.
Although I’m thinking it might not be as bad in the long term, for the simple fact that PW hates the press, and seeing anyone victimised by them, as the Middletons have been this week, probably wins his sympathy more than anything.
I’m thinking he is probably feeling more protective of his Kate then ever.
The Sun story certainly blows the Mail’s Jamie Middleton non-story (all public schoolboys are prone to dressing in drag, big whoop) out of the water.
August 31st, 2008 21:36
alsgal, I must admit that the prospect of the DM having to report this story just tickles my fancy..he he he…once again they are left out in the cold when it comes to real royal news.
The one thing about this story that annoys me however is the term”‘intimate”. That word indicated more to me then the reported “cuddling” that was going on. The headlines make it sound more sexual and that is just not a good thing. I guess the truth was just too boring.
August 31st, 2008 21:53
Lisa,
That sounded to my ears like the sexed-up Sun trying to make more of it than it was.
To me, the term “intimate” really just means private.
I tend to doubt that Pippa would be walking around Central London with pictures of her big Sis doing the hoochey-hoochey with the future King of England.
August 31st, 2008 21:55
fjae
Where did you read that pippa too the pictures? The article mentioned that the pictures were obtained from Pippa’s camera, it did not say Pippa took them.
August 31st, 2008 23:02
Well who else would be trying to get proof of love out to the press…she only has two friends, pippa and carole…james is too busy finding dresses in their closets and pappa mids is just hoping they don’t break the bank with yet another holiday, unless of course this was free too…sdomething wills loves like when he shouted I,m free! Until we see the photos we don’t know. What they look like. The photos we have seen of them has kate showing off and william looking bored except when he is with sister pippa. My guess is that yes kate is playing the victim card, she alsways does. He really needs to grow out of his need for a family and get on with travelling with her alone, it is really sad that his libido is encouraged by pippas and mama mids presence or perhaps it is james, dresses….and alsgal not by any stretch of the imagination do ALL public school boys cross dress…most might dress up but not as women, that’s left to the gay community or those that don’t know they are a part of the gay community yet
August 31st, 2008 23:05
When is Will coming back – hasnt it been four months already?
I miss him completely. Will – come back – after you have thoroughly enjoyed your leave of absence with Liz (ofcourse).
Come back Will.
August 31st, 2008 23:38
fjae
If you’re looking for work Isuggest you apply as an investigator. You sure as hell know how to put all the pieces together…..without any cohesion nor consistency. You seem to own the monopoly of truth don’t you?
Of course you do, you see the world in grey!!!!!
September 1st, 2008 00:19
I’m too overwhelmed by the most recent foolishness to be able to add any real value tonight, but I do want to say that Guest, alsgal, (of course
) lisa, Carla, Rman, ked, Trixie, nikki, gracie, sonia, dagsi, Fixx, and BRW all have my COMPLETE support.
I agree with mostly everything I’ve seen you guys post in your comments under this article. I think the most recent Daily Mail article totally crossed the line, and I’m glad it was upstaged by the article in The Sun about Pippa’s camera and pictures being recovered.
I also think this will just cause Wills to be even more protective of Kate than he’s already been. I often wonder what he makes of all this, especially since this is happening around the same time as the 11th anniversary of his mothers passing. I imagine he’s highly upset about the way the press is persecuting his girlfriend and her family, and I think the DM is digging their own grave when it comes to getting any royal scoops of any kind in the future. I think the way Kate and her family are handling this crap is really admirable. Despite all the venom that’s been spewed at them, all the Middletons said was “yes” and “no”, and then they shut the door! I can’t imagine being that composed. I’m certain my hubby would’ve been holding me back by my shoulders as I attempted to flatten the head of the person standing at the door with my shoe!!!
September 1st, 2008 00:39
Great post, as usual, mapleleaf! I always read your comments, by the way, whether on this blog or even over at the other forum, because I always find them incredibly sound and valuable. Cheers!
September 1st, 2008 02:38
Hello All,
Your views have all been taken on board and action will be forthcoming.
If in the meanwhile things slip through then I’d ask that you not get upset to the point where you start flaming back – that only makes the situation worse.
Thanks,
Steven
September 1st, 2008 02:52
I dont think that people from this forum should be living because of what other people post.
If people dont like what others are posting, they should just ignore them. I believe commenters like merrick or fjae should not be denied from this website just because their point of view differs from that of the rest of you. We all have different points of view
September 1st, 2008 03:08
the DM has gone too far.
September 1st, 2008 03:11
BRW
was there any problem with my last comment?
** BRW – No it just got caught in moderation. It happens sometimes **
September 1st, 2008 03:19
BRW, your point is well taken, but the Kate haters have been disparaging this site and some of them have begun to flock here to cause disruption. I think statements such as the ones Fjae made in HER last post above are outrageous. I think it is unfair of her to be able to post that garbage here without challenge. She and some others have repeatedly attempted to invade another site and the admin of that site has repeatedly banned them.
Please, do something about this. People will begin to leave here if a few bad apples attempt to hijack this site with lies and outrages, unfounded and unsubstantiated statements about Kate Middleton and her family.
September 1st, 2008 04:00
Hi Guest, Please read my post above.
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