At the Wedding: Prince William and Kate Middleton
Prince William finally walked Kate Middleton down the aisle at a wedding yesterday—but it could be two years before they do it at their own.
The couple happily posed for photos at a friend’s big day in Austria—the first wedding they have attended as a couple for nearly three years.
Wills, who let Kate attend two Royal weddings alone this year, is usually careful they are only snapped together on an occasional night out or at polo.
But yesterday he didn’t care who saw him tenderly place his hand on her shoulder moments before they walked into the church together.
Read the article and check out the photos here
September 7th, 2008 06:17
The happy couple look positively radiant.
September 7th, 2008 09:00
Firstly, when i see the caption on this news, make me shock! but when i knew both of them not get married yesterday or wherever this time make me glad, of course. i’m not ready to see them do it that!
September 7th, 2008 09:04
I guess Mr. 50:50 Richard Kay got it wrong once more. It’s not Balmoral this weekend, it’s Salzburg. Great to see them! It’s also nice to know that they are still friends with Olivia Hunt and her family.
Someone at WHU found out that Kate is wearing a dress she already wore back at a night out in 2006. Very well matched with a yellow blazer.
http://whu.teamhighgrove.com/pics/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=1
I really like the dress. Though it’s knee length it has a great cut and young vibe to it.
PS: I wished Kate would wear her hair up ocassionally. It is very pretty but up it would look veen more elegant, IMO.
September 7th, 2008 10:34
Trixie, Richard Kay may have been fed a red herring in order to throw people off of the real destination. Job well done!
September 7th, 2008 11:08
I wonder if Richard Kay ever feels stupid when he prints things and they don’t happen. I saw the Telegraph has William and Harry biking in Africa story again. I just don’t see that happening. Africa is unstable and I can’t imagine how much security detail would have to be invested to do something like that.
September 7th, 2008 11:38
gracie,I have a feeling that after that article about James,the DM was warned about any more articles about Kate and her family which is why they went with this recycled article about biking through Africa. I am sure Richard Kay knows his sources may not be accurate but beggars can’t be choosy so he goes with what he’s got and hopes it pans out.
September 7th, 2008 12:55
Trixie, I think Kate looks fantastic no matter what she does with her hair, but I agree it would be very pretty to see it worn up as well –very elegant, and would suit her personal style immensely. Grace Kelly often wore her hair up, and Kate also has the same sort of classic beauty that GK did.
Mr. Fifty Fifty Richard Kay has been a day late and a dollar short recently. These two are playing it so close to the vest, and are possibly having their friends throw out a few red herrings to keep the press in the dark. I say, good for them, because they are entitled to their private life just like any one else.
September 7th, 2008 13:41
I would love to see her hair up as well alsgal. She has a regalness about her and would look more elegant with updos. She has gorgeous hair and I can’t imagine her cutting it. At least not until she gets in her thirties.
September 7th, 2008 14:18
You know, I think I’d hate to see her cut it even then Maddie. It is such her crowning glory (no pun intended) and such a wonderful asset that I notice even her detractors don’t usually find anything negative to say about Kate in the hair department. Now that’s good hair!
September 7th, 2008 14:39
Ladies, yes Kate does have beautiful hair and I would also love to see her wear it up from time to time. Of this group of pictures the one that stands out for me is the one with William’s profile and kate is smiling. It reminds me of the one of her in Hello from the wedding of Peter and Autumn that was so classic. I would have liked to see a black, pill box type hat for this outfit. I think it would finish the outfit off well. I am finding Kate starting to remind me of Jackie Kennedy when she is dressed up lately.
September 7th, 2008 15:22
Lisa, you must have a great sense of style because what you suggested would have really added an extra special quality to Kate’s outfit.:) I am one of the few who actually adored the colour of the jacket, Kate herself was gorgeous as usual, but I must confess somehow the look seemed perhaps a bit unfinished? Not to in any way detract from her appearance, but I do sometimes feel she might try to take things up a notch. Maybe via accessories, maybe via jewellery or like you say, a signature hat of some sort?
Of course, there is sometimes a fine line between looking simple and elegant and looking like a Christmas tree, but I think Kate would have to add a whole lot of fluff before she would be accused of overdoing it.
Of course, William himself could help by giving her a few important pieces of jewellery … hint, hint.
He look at Peter and Autumn’s wedding was fantastic I thought, very finished and elgant.
September 7th, 2008 15:39
I agree with you,alsgal. I think Kate tries very hard not to stand out too much and in doing so may err on the side of caution. It will take a little getting used to once the announcement is made and she is able to open up her jewelry box,which I know is bountiful and step up her look both in fashion and jewelry. I hope she stays true to herself and does not change her look drastically.
I hope Hello buys these pictures. They do such a nice job presenting photographs and these are keepers!
September 7th, 2008 16:44
I think Kate, although she look lovely, did not look as put together as she has at other events, Windsor, Philips weddings. Maybe it is because she didn’t have hair and makeup people to turn to because she was in Austria. Kate looks great when she looks casual, but I would bet she has people to help her w/hair, makeup, etc. when she goes to formal events. If they marry, Kate will be able to have a team of professional to fly around with her for events, like Diana did, to keep her looking polished at all times. I agree with Lisa, Alsgal, too that her hair would be nice pulled back even if most of it was down. I was hoping to get a full shot of her outfit as I like to see what shoes she is wearing. Don’t get offended by this, but does Kate look a little fuller in her mid-section? Perhaps it is the jacket. It appears to not be a tailored as other jackets she has worn to past events.
September 7th, 2008 17:29
I think she chooses these types of ensembles for weddings(short jacket over dress) so it can easily convert from a daytime church event, to dancing at night by simply removing the jacket. It is practical but it does not dazzle,which in her present position, is fine. I supposed she feels it’s tried and true and until she feels the need to step up her look, I think we can expect more of the same.
September 7th, 2008 17:30
Gracie, I believe it is just that one particular picture that I sense was just taken at a bit of a strange angle, as one can see in the other photos (the side, from the back) how very slim she is. Not worryingly so, but attractively so.
I do know when my son moved back in with us that he did put on a few pounds thanks to his Mama’s homemade poutine and Al’s free donuts from Tim Horton’s, something at least Kate doesn’t have to contend with!
September 7th, 2008 23:02
i was reading the article, and this is an old article. It dates back to 07/09/2008, so 2 months have happened already. Just wondering how come it wasnt published before and why are they publishing old articles?
September 8th, 2008 00:10
Sonia, the date means the 7th of September. William was in the Carribbean in July.
September 8th, 2008 10:02
Somone over at Royal Forums posted this link to pics of Kate and Will at the evening reception.
http://tinyurl.com/6f9eh4
Very pretty dress. I love the colour.
September 8th, 2008 10:08
Trixie, good find! I was getting ready to post it. Kate looks pretty in the purple dress, much better color on her. Appears to look alot like the Issa dress worn to Boodles, except there are sequins on the waist? I wish we cold get better pictures of her dress.
September 8th, 2008 11:06
for a direct link (and hopefully a fuller view) of Kate’s dress…
http://tinyurl.com/5rjhwt
September 8th, 2008 11:45
That is a GORGEOUS color on her and although the black and white look she has trended towards is a stunning look for her, seeing a bit of colour on her really suits her fabulously!
September 8th, 2008 11:48
Sorry to double post but I see the groom is Rupert Evett, which doesn’t sound Austrian to me. Does anyone here know why they married in Salzburg, is there a connection to the place or did they just find it, as so many do, a beautiful town?
September 8th, 2008 11:52
That’s great to hear William and Kate enjoyed their visit to a friends wedding in Austria.
September 8th, 2008 12:20
I think she looks gorgeous in that purple dress.
Does anyone know why Ked hasn’t posted any longer or as of late ? Seems to have disappeared like Will.
I miss both of them, for a good laugh, no offense intended, it reminds me of one of my favorite books/movies – Dr. Jeckly Mr. Hide.
September 8th, 2008 12:48
On http://www.bild.de, they have a photo of Kate outfit for ceremony. Looks like she recycled the one outfit as teamhighgrove mentioned, but must of had a tailor cut the length off to her above her knees. Its an asymetrical cut, not the same length all around.
Me, I too have asked about Ked. He seems to have disappeared since DM pulled blog stories. Maybe he is concerned about his idenity being found out, since he seems to be in the know alot of times. IMO
September 8th, 2008 12:52
Sorry, if looking for photos go under Royal and the wedding info is there.
September 8th, 2008 13:52
“W&K held hands and laughed together, whilst looking very much in love,” said another guest — thank gawd for Google translator, although many of us suspected William and Kate are indeed rather “verliebt.”
In love, and on track for a wedding in 2009 I still say!
September 8th, 2008 17:04
At least Kate is not sitting on her arse in front of a computer screen passing judgement on someone she’s never met like a lot of **** who frequent some of these chat rooms. Such a clever lot, so full of wit. Not! They’ve been repeating the same complaints for over three years about Kate — hey sistas, dontcha have anything more productive to do with your time? Are you really that delusional to think YOU can change public opinbion about Kate enough that William will leave her?
Good luck with that. The public hated Camilla (with reason) and it didn’t stop Daddy-O from marrying the chick. Wake up and get real.
I don’t give a rats either way who William marries. If the Monarchy can survive Camilla, my guess is it will survive Kate.
** BRW – Then why come here? **
September 8th, 2008 17:24
Sophia, I guess you must consider yourself in the catagory of one who sits on “her arse in front of a computer screen passing judgement on someone she never met” or you would not waste your time or opinion on this blog. You must be on the wrong site, this is “British Royal Wedding.”
September 8th, 2008 17:28
sophia, you are wise beyond your years(however old you are!) You sum things up perfectly.
Onto the dress,lol…I love the lavender dress, wish I could see a better view of it.
Although the second group of pictures we have are obviously candid, the first group is not. They clearly knew they were being snapped and it has me curious about something…
I wonder if the palace or CH are “leaking” or knowingly allowing pictures of William and Kate attending events as a couple in order to get people used to them together in a more mature enviornment then the usual nightclubs etc…
Just a thought..
September 8th, 2008 17:32
Yes Gracie my point exactly which is why I’ve posted all of three times here. And yourself?
September 8th, 2008 17:47
Lisa, perhaps you are right. Maybe CH is trying to get public more comfortable with seeing them together at events. If they did not want photos out, because of the location and the lack of info of the couple, it could have not made news. There is also not alot of photos out there of this event, unless more come out in the following days. So I would think it had to be planned to release these photos. Kate has attended so many weddings, she must wonder when will it be my turn.
September 8th, 2008 18:02
gracie,I have a feeling the DM has been threatened regarding pictures/articles of Kate and William after the fiasco with James’ pictures the other week. I think the whole group of those papers are under order a gag order.
September 8th, 2008 18:44
Lisa, I think so too. Notice they are not mentioning Middletons so far this week, only Chelsy and Harry and Eugenie. I can’t imagine why 18 more months are needed to have an announcement/wedding. Its great to see Kate and William attending things together, but the more wedding she goes to it will bring up why she has no ring yet.
September 8th, 2008 19:06
The story of a 18 month wait is not true. I was just watching on ITN Source Online when Prince Edward & Sophie had announced their engagement. They made a photo session with the press and Edward said he wanted it to be a suprise to her but the media speculation was ruining it so he had to figure out a way to suprise her with a ring. So I think William wants to totally suprise her and not have her read what the papers are saying. Now we all know that it don’t take 18 months to do that. That is just speculation.
September 8th, 2008 19:08
We will just have to wait. William & Kate is always suprising us so I think later this year or earily next year we will be able to jump for joy.
September 8th, 2008 19:22
I highly doubt this will go on for another 18 months. Just another made up quote from a “royal source”. They will be married by next summer. JMO.
September 8th, 2008 19:41
Lisa, in response to your post: “gracie,I have a feeling the DM has been threatened regarding pictures/articles of Kate and William after the fiasco with James’ pictures the other week. I think the whole group of those papers are under order a gag order.”
I agree. I don’t think there is a formal gag order, but I think they know they went too far. And thankfully so far there aren’t any more invasive pictures of Kate Middleton or her family out on open internet sites either. And some of the offenders have gone underground as well… guess they couldn’t stand the glare of the spotlight, public condemnation and scorn. Oh and the potential for legal action. LOL
September 8th, 2008 20:20
When I saw the piece,I suspected some big dogs with big teeth would be paying a call on the ole DM and it would not be a friendly visit for sure!I wonder how long they will behave themselves? The weekend story about Chelsy rang of desperation,lol.
September 8th, 2008 21:36
I think sophia has a good point.
William is not going to pay attention to what the public says. He is going to do whatever he wants. Those people who posted pictures of KM’S brother so that people will go against KM, but with what purpose? PW is the one who has the final say on who he is going to marry and not the british people.
September 9th, 2008 04:38
Rman,
I mentioned weeks ago and gave valid reasons as to why the engagement couldn’t be expected for 15 to 18 months at the earliest.
I don’t know where the latest report has come from as Ive been away (at a wedding actually) but perhaps someone has made same calculations.
I was also interested to see that reports of antagonism from BP sources which was another point I made. Believe me there are several families out there ,many in prominent positions who see their own so called precedence threatened should PW marry KM.
I did herar that KM and PW received separate invitations to the recent wedding but went togeher but didn’t travel or stay together. KM stayed at a hotel.
I am happy to note that some of the more vicious commentators imported deliberately from other sites have at least moderated their comments. It was a surprise and dispapointment to read some of the comments here of all places but they were unable to get access to certain other sites so made deliberate efforts to flood BRW with theirperceived hatred of KM and her family.
As a matter of interest I have seen the thimbles mentioned and the photographs of KM are of very poor quality and obviously taken from newspaper or magazine copy.
September 9th, 2008 04:46
I read that they took a BA flight together. Where did you get your info, ked?
September 9th, 2008 05:32
and PC security was with them.
Article from RK DM.
“The Middleton recipe for riches…
James Middleton’s penchant for dressing in drag has made him almost as famous as his big sister. But now Kate’s handsome brother has revealed another aspect of his unconventional life – his plans to become a cake-making entrepreneur.
The university dropout says he has turned a childhood love for baking into a business venture, the Cake Kit Company.
“I knew there was a part of everyone that wanted to bake cakes at home,” he says. “My dream was to build a cake empire – cakes and more cakes, in all shapes and sizes.”
Marlborough-educated James, 21, even puts his baking habits in a historical context.
He tells Tatler magazine: “I suddenly saw that maybe Marie Antoinette had a point when she rather inappropriately said: ‘Let them eat cake.’
“So far, unlike King Alfred, I have only burnt my fingers – and not the cakes.”
September 9th, 2008 05:37
That must mean a lot, when the old guy is with W&K, recheck the pics
for any conspiracy theory, it means plenty.
September 9th, 2008 05:52
What do you mean by the old guy,Me?
The bodyguard? William always has bodyguards with him. Why would this be a big deal?
September 9th, 2008 05:58
That bodyguard belongs to Prince Charles, PW has his own bodyguards. For that particular close bodyguard of PC to travel with W&K, what would you think ? That PW bodyguards are off for vacations ?
September 9th, 2008 06:05
Are you thinking that bodyguard is assigned to Kate? I guess I am a little slow this morning…
September 9th, 2008 06:16
It could mean anything, but I’m happy for W&K, they looked happy to be there.
September 9th, 2008 06:43
Hello,
From one or two photographs that I saw of PW/KM on a terraced bar the evening reception looked as if it was at a hotel I in fact know.
I am not sure but if it was the Sacher Saltzberk hotel on Schwarzstrasse near the river then the additional security would be needed as its near city centre and close to a main road without large grounds surrounding it.
That may account for additional security from PC full section. PW’s security people would be elsewhere I suspect.
I have no idea how ,where or when they travelled but I did here that KM had been at the hotel when PW arrived. This may have meant he had another appointment after the ceremony and before the reception or had just gone away to get changed from his morning suit.
September 9th, 2008 06:44
I am happy for them as well. I think things are moving at a good pace right now and things will be official by the end of the year if not sooner.
That bodyguard may have been sent with them because he presents a better “look” at a society wedding..just a guess. I don’t think she has a ring yet.
September 9th, 2008 07:47
Ked, I am glad you are back and hope you had a nice time at the wedding you attended. Maybe William went to a stag party for the groom?
I don’t get why the NOTW made a point to say that Charles security guy was there to watch Kate. Although he did have a yellow tie on that matched Kate’s jacket. Is the public suppose to believe that because Charles lent his security to Kate, that he has excepted her? The cat and mouse games CH/RF etc. are playing are getting to be a little silly. If Kate and William are not together or getting married why is she attending weddings with him in Austria? I don’t think its a good idea the James is doing interview for Tatler about cake decorating. I would think CH would not like that as it just adds more fuel to the fire.
September 9th, 2008 10:26
SONIA DEAR I LIKE KNOW IF TRUE THAT THIS MARRYAGE CERIMONY ALREADY HAPPENED THERE ARE 2 MONTHS.
THANK YOU IF ANSWER ME.
UMMM KISSSS FOR YOU.
…so 2 months have happened already. Just wondering how come it wasnt published before and why are they publishing old articles?
September 9th, 2008 10:30
HI ALL!
I NEED VERY VERY THAT YOU CONFIRME IF THIS WORD OF SONIA IS TRUE.
KISSS FOR ALL.
(…so 2 months have happened already. Just wondering how come it wasnt published before and why are they publishing old articles?)
September 9th, 2008 10:33
7th of September, this past saturday.
September 9th, 2008 10:34
sunday article, saturday wedding/reception
September 9th, 2008 10:36
Patricia, in Europe they put the day, then the month, then the year. So 07/09/08 would actually not be July 9th it would be the 7th of September.
Also PC and PW would not be so naive as to use a Royal Protection officer (paid for by the taxpayer) to guard Kate. TheyRoyal just don’t do it like that, the Royal way to to assign a Royal bodyguard the day before the announcement. He was probably there guarding William, who was there with Kate. The News of the World article is just silly.
Equally silly are the posters on the other website suggesting that PW is with Kate because of Kate’s brother. Surely they must be joking, not that anything would be wrong with it, but please connect the dots people. Really, there is so much silliness in the blogsphere sometimes I cannot believe it!
September 9th, 2008 10:48
gracie,
No I did not go to the stag party and neither did PW as far as I know (doubt if he attends any more after last one ) but I was at the evening dinner/dance and met interesting people (person).
No furthe comments
September 9th, 2008 10:57
gracie,
Again sorry for second post.
I do think the attendance at the wedding of a high profile security man was appropriate and the fact that he was so publically photographed probably meant that there were others discretely in attendance at the chapel and at the evening reception and throughout the weekend.
There is no way that PW or KM’s safety in a foreign country close to Easten Europe would be contemplated and his close attendance would warn off any problems or difficulties.
September 9th, 2008 11:00
Ked, sorry I wasn’t asking if you went to the stag party. I probably didn’t understand your statement about how they didn’t come to the event together because Kate was already at hotel. I just suggested that perhaps William went to a stag party. But that appears to not be so. Sorry for the confusion.
September 9th, 2008 11:05
But the NOTW make it sound like security was there just for Kate, when it was more likely he was there for William. Which is totally fine with me. The mags read to much into these things IMO.
September 9th, 2008 11:53
Ked, Salzburg, Austria is far safer then the streets of London, England will ever be. Hungary, Czech, Slovenia and Croatia are not Schengen countries and the border control leaving eastern Austria is airtight.
Bodyguards are only a visible means of protecting the target.
PW and Harry most likely have a chip in their small toe or upper arm which functions as a tracking device which many of the risk consultants at Kroll International recommend their “high profile” clients have implanted in case of a kidnapping. (Ankle bracelets are out because they are so visible.)
Doesn’t William’s assistant Jamie Lowther Pinkerton consult for Kroll on the sidelines?
Anyhoo, whether he has two bodyguards or seven, I’m sure they keep William very, very safe.
September 9th, 2008 12:28
Ked that is wonderfull, meeting the interesting people (person) sounds exciting
I won’t ask you questions, since you did say “no further comment”, which I respect.
But using my imagination, it would be so cool to think that it was Kate Middleton you met, in the sense that no one has mentioned as a fact about her voice, character, smile (which I always and still think its her natural and real) and any other noticed detail.
I think one poster here spoke of a close family member who was in Mustique a few months back and said she was a really nice person and truly gorgeous – very pretty in person.
September 9th, 2008 12:37
Maybe back in 1962 when you were there Mrs. Al that was the case but me, I fly thru Osterreich border like a bat outta hell last month I was there on my way back to Romania.
September 9th, 2008 12:44
Alsgal, never thought about placing chips in people for some reason. Don’t mean to sound foolish, but I was only aware of chipping animals, which I have had done before. The chips that are implanted in animals are only for id perposes though, not tracking. Very interesting. Didn’t know Jamie worked for a security firm. So, 007 don’t ya think?
September 9th, 2008 12:48
I know Ked can’t answer any questions, and I seemed to get a response from him that I didn’t ask for. So am I the only one who is under the impression Ked was at the party? My brain is not working well today, sinus! I tend to read to much into Ked remarks sometimes.
September 9th, 2008 13:16
You’re not the only one gracie!
However, if we are right and you did meet her Ked and you are willing to answer this one question: what does she sound like? I’ve always wanted to know, it’s strange that isn’t it? Of all the things we could want to know about Kate, her voice has been at the top of my list.
September 9th, 2008 13:19
I wonder if James Blunt sang for the couple at the reception? Must be nice to have famous singer as a friend.
September 9th, 2008 13:24
Well, James Blunt isn’t my favourite singer I must admit, but he has done some nice songs. It would be nice if he had but I doubt it as I would have thought it would be mentioned.
September 9th, 2008 13:28
You guys there is no reason to get into all of that. The security guy was there for William and Kate. She won’t officially get security until the annoucement is made. There is a lot of speculation when the announcement will come and we won’t fin out until it actually comes. Like I said before Prince Edward was trying his best to suprise Sophie but the media kept speculating so he had to find the right time to do it. Sophie said she was very suprised and didn’t see it coming. It’s must be nerve recking for William because the media is just speculating. No it does not take 18 months to plan that out. Just let the boy finish up his trying in the fall and let him handle this, he’s not a kid you know.
September 9th, 2008 13:32
Gracie, you are not sounding foolish as the chip implants were indeed first tested on animals via simple ID read-only devices. Larry Webber over at Digital Angel wanted to mass market an implantable chip back in 2001 but it was abandoned due to public outcry. Big brother and all that. Government outfits/military have used similar technology for the past 15-20 years though, and private security firms for the past 5-6 years. It does seem 007 silly but hey, whatever works.
Oh the things I hear down at Tim Horton’s.:)
btw Jamie LP’s consultant work for Kroll is not top secret Timmy’s info but was widely known as CH released his CV when he was appointed.
Sophia, it wasn’t so long ago as that
but those countries are Schengen in political name only. You can bet every meager little guard station you passed through on your way back to Romania photographed and ran your car plates through an Interpol db.
September 9th, 2008 14:04
Whether you’ve experienced a computer glitch or someone is playing a little trick that is not funny!
The above post marked Sophia’s is mine and should reflect that.
This same nonsense occurred a month ago with some other posters, please be careful as proper credit should be given to each poster.
Thanks,
alsgal
** BRW – Fixed. Sorry, not sure why that happened. Will keep an eye on it. **
September 9th, 2008 15:32
Alsgal, I thought it odd that you would address a note to yourself. I don’t know how they manage to do it.
I wonder if we will see Kate and William out again before Disco? Of course he might not be going to let it be Kate and the commitee night.
September 9th, 2008 15:57
Gracie, I must confess I’m wondering what Kate will wear seeing as there is a day glo dress theme? I am seeng a short Dorothy Hamill type of skirt which will give us all gams galore and which hopefully won’t be too distracting to her fellow skaters.
As I mentioned before, my charity work was limited to the Kittens for Convicts program at my church (all of three times as it was horribly depressing and I’m no humanitarian) so I’m not that well-versed on the whole fundraising bit. I’ve heard they’ve already raised about 100,000 pounds so far, which is astounding and should be applauded.
Will any of Tom’s children be at the event? How many did he leave behind, does anyone know?
Also wondering if it is a family style affair, or more of the twenty something crowd? Whatever it is, is sounds like a LOT of fun, and is also for a good cause. God bless Tom’s children and may they raise a lot of money to help those poor little kiddos. It must be hard to not have a father.
September 9th, 2008 16:39
Rman,
Again I say, it is not that it takes 18 months to give notice of an engagement and the fool who said that knows it well enough.
What everyone has to understand is that PW ,for all the wrong reasons, has to cram so much into his knowledge bank in such a short time that his personal life and feelings have to take a back seat.
This is a disadvantage to all concerned and it is to be hoped that who ever made the decisions for his life after University does not live to regret them.
I also think that PP’s possible illness and current frailty has contributed to the confusion and forced HM to accelerate PW’s acceptance of the Windsor family responsibilities at the same time as his Constitutional and Royal requirements.
HM obviously feels that PW is better placed to protect the family estates than PC who must next accept the responsibilities of the Crown.
So as previously stated PW’s time over the next 15 to 18 months is not his own, so his and KM’s personal lives are put on hold hopefully not to the detriment of their feelings for one another.
In PW’s case the public will accept this delay as it shows him to be preparing for his destiny but the fickle members of the public and the hateful Royal hangers on will continue to take every opportunity to attack KM and for the latter thus attempt to promote their own offspring.
PW could defeat these objectives but that may put him in the position of possibly going against the wishes of the senior members of the RF and get married to KM whilst hopefully fulfilling his tasks.
He has a decision to make that may decide his and KM’s future happiness and possibly his own record in history.
September 9th, 2008 17:09
Ked, I agree with you William needs to make a decision, his decision. I hope he will fight for Kate, like his father fought to get Camilla were she is. William will look like he is busy and Kate will still continue to get “work-shy” press. Why could they just get engaged and put the wedding off a little later? If their was an engagement Kate would be protected and then she could start to do serious charities.
Alsgal, I am thinking the same thing about the dress for the Disco. I think that by this being a costume fundraiser w/ alcohol, press/haters, etc. will not take it seriously. Even if it is for a good cause.
September 9th, 2008 17:10
BRW,
The overseas mafia are at it again.
** BRW – Fixed, what a tiresome lot they are… **
September 9th, 2008 17:12
Ked, another thing that bothers me is I think this prolonging the engagement is intentional, not on William part though.
September 9th, 2008 19:08
ladies(and gentlemen) I am quite curious about this roller disco event. Since it is somewhat “open to the public”, I can’t envision William and/or Harry there. Frankly, I am having difficulty envisioning Kate there, bodyguard-less amoungst a such a crowd. Unless there is some sort of private reception/party, I think we may be dissappointed.
September 9th, 2008 20:06
I very much wonder if the engagement delay isn’t actually on Kate’s part? Maybe she wants the chance to prove herself in a career first, or maybe she’s just not sure if she’s ready to become THE most famous and photographed woman in the world, as she probably will be.
I hope we’re not cheated out of some fun photos (it would also be good PR for Kate let’s admit) so I’m hoping there’s a VIP room in the back somewhere.
September 9th, 2008 20:13
Kate’s life will be the one that will change the most after the engagement,that’s for sure but she has known this for many years and I have to believe that if she was not prepared to do what it takes to be William’s wife, she would have not hung in this long. As much as I want to see them marry,I really can’t blame them if they are putting it off til the last possible moment. It won’t be easy for them once they are married. For one thing, the public and the media will go on “bump watch” before the wedding cake is cleared,lol…
September 10th, 2008 01:03
Well we know it will come soon and he will do whatever he has to do so he has make this woman his wife. He has a great deal of things to do but has Camilla did with Charles, Kate will be by his side. That must be a great comfort to William. He’s a lucky guy.
September 10th, 2008 02:38
Rman,
Yes it may come eventually, but seriously, read the signs.
They all point to a delay in this, delays brought about by circumstances but are these accidental , premeditated or just bad planning and foresight ?
Each time an engagement is mooted something else is added to the plot. Some of the ‘possible’ engagement rumours come from more than one source, so there really must have been a realistic possibility that ,at the time, they may have been correct and PW and KM may have decided the time was right.
Then another task is added to PW’s curriculum by one agency or another and the time passes.
We know that PW and KM are, and have been, in love with one another for a long time but whenever there is serious talk of fulfilment PW’s conscience or inbred sense of duty is pricked by either senior members of his family or the faceless mandarins of power.
Soon he has to become his own man and face up to a decision and that time may be running out for him because of the pressure being put on his weakest spot, KM and in particular KM’s family.
Daily these attacks on KM and her family become more gross and the pressure may just tell. PW seriously has to consider what his future is and who is to be in his future.
September 10th, 2008 06:05
He might just have continue to take her then to many of a plenty royal events, until he decides to ask the question.
September 10th, 2008 07:24
Kate is starting to look like “always a bridesmaid, never a bride.” I don’t mean this to sound cruel, because I think Kate would make a a great princess. But you have to wonder as she watches her friends from uni marry, if she ever thinks when will it be her turn to walk down that isle. I don’t think she should be going with William to weddings, ceremonies, etc., unless he is going to marry her. It is cruel and it will come back and bit him in the butt, if he ends it with her. How much longer is Kate willing to put up with this nonsense?
September 10th, 2008 07:29
Me,
So in the ‘normal’ world, in a normal relationship how long should you ‘take her out’ before the big question ?
Or does the song ” until the the twelth of never ” comes to mind because it is a long long time !
In your own life or experience have you come across any lady who has had to put up with so much for so long.
Or put another way, is it a normal relationship when one dates (if that’s the operative word) a Prince or do you resign yourself to accepting the conditions imposed ?
Secondly, how long would/should a lady put up with these conditions and accept it’s not a normal lovers relationship?
Thirdly, when did KM realise that the above conditions applied ?
September 10th, 2008 07:54
Ked, so do you think CH/RF,etc. are really hoping that he will meet a girl with better breeding?
September 10th, 2008 08:02
Why does Chelsy still post pictures of herself of Facebook? I would think that would be the first thing one would need to stop doing while dating a prince. I like Chelsy too, but for someone who is trying to get a law degree, I thought she would have more sense than that.
September 10th, 2008 08:03
If there is not some agreement to marry already in place between them, and that’s a big IF, then Kate must have a heart of gold and the patience of a saint. William must be quite a guy, too, and must be very good to her for her to be this patient with him and his demanding career.
If, next year, they do indeed marry, then in retrospect Kate moving back in with her parents will make a lot of sense. Biding her time whilst working for her parents will, at that point, seem like a very logical move on Kate’s part, if she already knew full well that 2009 was indeed her marital year.
If they do not, and this keeps getting strung out, then I will say I’ll be more than a bit heartbroken and I can only imagine how much it will hurt Kate, as I do believe deep down she wants the benefit of marriage with the man she obviously loves very deeply. She seems like a wonderfully traditional girl, so I would think marriage matters as much to her as it does for us other tradtional gals.
Although I do know members of the BRF have trended towards long courtships of late (Ed & Sophie/Pete& Aut/ Zara & Mike) it’s a bit different for them as they have each been involved in challenging careers which, to my mind, have probably kept them quite busy during the wait-and-see period. Though Kate is certainly working hard for her parents, one does get the sense this is more of a job of last resort, given her limitations at the moment.
September 10th, 2008 08:10
I think we all need to remember that this is not ordinary marriage and William is no ordinary groom. I am sure things have to be planned out carefully especially considering the magnitude of the public event involved. If Kate is happy and patient,then she knows the outcome of this adventure and it is acceptable to her,then we need to trust that and hang in there for the announcement. It will come.
September 10th, 2008 08:12
Maybe Chelsy actually likes the press attention those pics bring her afterall it was once reported that she wanted to be “famous”. She certainly achieved that. I cannot think of another explanation for her posting them and/or not truely privatising her facebook account for once. Is she wants to share pics with friends she could clearly do so via e-mail. No need to post them on facebook.
I do not find the 5 years Kate an Will have been together now an unusual long time when you consider their age. I don’t think there’s any “rule” how long it should take till you pop the question. Edward and Sophie were together for 5 years and married, with his ex he dated 5 years as well and they didn’t marry. Peter and Autumn dated 4 years and married Harry and Chelsy are almost at 5 years now as well, Victoria of Sweden is dating her b/f for 6 years now, her brother Carl Philip his g/f for 8 years, her sister Madeleine her b/f for 5 years. I think nowadays couples in general take a little more time before they decide to marry and I think there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s better to test the relationship and see whether you can really make it through the good and bad together than to go with the mood in the first year or two of butterflies in your stomach and heart flutter etc. and then later realise that everyday life together isn’t all that.
September 10th, 2008 08:30
I have wondered lately about how serious or longterm Harry and Chelsy are. All these pictures coming out seem to indicate that Chelsy is not overly worried about what conclusions people may or may not draw from these pictures. If your going to date a prince, it might be wise to shut down your facebook account and ask your friends not to share pictures of you partying all the time. I think Harry and Chelsy are an adorable couple and I hope for the best for them.
September 10th, 2008 08:58
Lisa makes a good point about testing the thick and thin of the relationship before settling down, as many couples do these days. One does get the sense that Sophie/Autumn/Mike would have had lives to go back to if they’d opted not to proceed with the royal relationship.
However, if PW doesn’t “get going” or Kate finds the prospect of life in the RF too unbearable it will take her a while to establish her own life again. She’s had a hard enough time getting a job as a Royal GF, it won’t be any easier as an ex-Royal GF with not much work experience. She seems so totally devoted to William that I hope he understands what a rare and precious gift this is and steps up to the plate to publicly acknowledge it with a ring.
Perhaps I’m a simpleton, but if her life is on hold because they are planning to marry eventually (no point in starting a career she’d have to give up) then let’s get on with the announcement as Kate can most certainly learn the ropes alongside William. A Royal Wedding doesn’t take THAT long to plan; Charles and Diana’s didn’t and PC is heir to the throne.
If they are not sure they want to marry, then honestly (and I say this as a married woman without many options) I think Kate is better served having something to fall back on in the odd chance she decides not to marry PW or he continues to dither/have other priorities.
As I have said many times, I know Kate will be a fantastic future Queen if given the opportunity.
I just want her to be given the opportunity and not to be strung along while one excuse after another is made for PW not marrying her. She has effectively shown her willingness and good nature already by allowing her life to fit in around William’s for several years now — what more could he ask for in a future spouse?
PW, get on with it, man!
September 10th, 2008 09:12
As we just seen with them at a recent wedding, they look happy and confident about their future together. Ked what I was saying is William will do whatever he has to do so he can make that walk down the isle with her. Gracie, agree that William is not cruel and wouldn’t take her to all of these events and give her false hope. Like all couples, they must have talked this all through and decided when it will take place. Like I said before, she knows whats going on and that’s why we see a very strong and confident Kate because she’s not in the dark about anything. There has been alot of speculation when it wll come and I know William doesn’t like that but again if Kate is calm and very paitent on what’s about to happen then so should we. We all like seeing them happy and that’s where they are now. Also Ked what I was saying is Kate will support him while he continue on with his training and kingship training next year. To get to the point, their love will get them through this.
September 10th, 2008 09:43
I don’t know Ked, but the press is pressuring him so much, and some to many posters as well ?!
I’d say leave them alone, they (W&K) must know when/if, etc.
September 10th, 2008 09:59
Exactully Me, that’s what I’m trying to say. Let them handle this. The media is making this sound very difficult.
September 10th, 2008 10:13
Hello,
I think both Trixie and alsgal make very sensible and valid points about the relationship and possible failures, and Rman knows that I have complemented him many times about his staunch and protracted defense of PW and KM’s relationship and future happiness.
I perhaps am slightly more cynical despite hoping, sometimes against hope that the two people get together for ever. There is no doubt about their feelings for one another, this has shone out like a beacon year upon year.
They have had their problems as all couple do, but because of their mutual feelings and love they are still together. What many people don’t acknowledge is that it was PW who instigated each make up after their three major splits not KM and obviously made certain promises especially after the last major split in Spring 2007.
KM and PW know what those promises where and she obviously trusts him to fulfil those promises but PW has certain commitments and we all know what these basically are. The difficulty is that the time scale to fulfil these is continuall being extended by Royal and Constitutional affairs which KM is very probably aware of.
However to many , especially KM’s detractors at various levels and attitudes,these delays are not obvious or even acknowledged so they believe that there is a chance of their splitting up thus creating opportunities more suited to their own needs and wishes.
They have tried for many years to find actual fault with KM and her past and have failed miserably, so they have to establish stupid and unproven reasons for PW to leave her even attacking her family and their private lives.
This is I feel the biggest problem for PW and KM because to anyone seeing their family attacked, they must feel they should do something to help but PW continues to prevaricate thus adding fuel to those sections who obviously want KM away.
So KM may feel eventually that she only has one option and I think that is the biggest danger the couple face. One more slip up by PW could be fatal to the couple, to the RF and even to the UK if certain events happen in the future.
September 10th, 2008 10:15
And Rman its different times, another century. All this trials and tribulations with the press that specially KM and her entire family have received and dodged the bullets in a dignfied manner is the best way “so far” that this family has proved to be courageous, impressive, outstanding, and many other awesome words in the dictionary. This just shows to me, that KM is fit to be the future Queen Consort, she can take all the crap triggered her way.
September 10th, 2008 11:06
Ked, Me I agree.
September 10th, 2008 11:21
Kate has behaved in a very discreet manner (although she has had no choice to do anything else at all) and has proved herself to be willing to be part of the RF. Whether she would be good or not, I do not know as I have no evidence to say that she will be but then I have none at all to say she will not be a good addition to the RF. I think she will be a supportive wife and if the “on-off” nature of their relationship has finally ended, which I believe it has, then it is likely that the marriage will be successful.
I do think that William is in control of the relationship at the moment as I do not think that Kate has anything to bargain with. She would lose out on a lot more than he did, if he decided that she was not the love of his live. I agree with ked though an engagement will not happen soon due to PW’s other commitments. I agree that it does seem that every time there is an engagement rumour, it is immediately squashed by these sort of arrangements; ones that cannot be got out of.
They will probably marry but I doubt that it will be until 2010.
September 10th, 2008 11:23
Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to add that I do not see them going to this wedding as being a major step in their relationship. For a couple that has been dating for nearly 5 years (royal or not), I would expect them to be going out to events such as this or for KM to attend PW’s military events. It is the lifestyle of a modern couple these days and although shows that committment, I don’t think it is an impressive thing for PW and KM to do.
September 10th, 2008 11:33
Yes that is true that everytime that people think it will finally happen something else comes up. That is telling you that it’s all planned out and there are things that he has to do before any of that can happen. And all of that is just speculation. He will do this on his time and it will be private. But everyone is pulling for them and wishing them the best and that’s beautiful.
September 10th, 2008 11:53
I do think it was important they were together at the wedding, and the article in the reputable Salzburg paper stated that William danced with Kate and didn’t leave until four in the morning. That he is comfortable dancing with Kate in front of 180 other guests speaks volumes to me about what’s really going on in their relationship, their comfort level if you will, when away from the glare of the English press.
I guess that blurb about William not liking to dance with Kate at the clubs (attributed to a “female friend of William’s”) may have been the work of someone who was backstabbing Kate by “sharing” that little tidbit with a reporter? No wonder Kate is rumoured to be territorial with her man — I would be too if mine had “friends” like that.
September 10th, 2008 12:56
We can’t believe every source we read, in fact I am sceptical of all whether they say good or bad about Kate.
Alsgal, it does say that he is comfortable to be seen with her but they have gone dancing before in clubs and parties where there have been more than 180 guests and they have dated for 5 years. I would be worried if he was not comfortable to dance with her!
September 10th, 2008 13:11
I never believed those “William is a bad dancer and embarrassed to dance with Kate” stories. Did the people forget those cute pics of them dancing on his birthday? They surely looked like they enjoyed themselves and loved to dance together. I doubt that changed within the last couple of weeks. Just another non story to fill the papers when they apparently have no access to real inside information (anymore).
I sometimes wonder whether some of those stories were planted by William and/or Kate to expose some of those who may leak stories about them Last year there was a lot of obvious b/s written about them and at the same time the press started to be wrong the majority of the time when it comes t William and Kate. Me thinks someone has been cleaning out their “friends” list big time.
September 10th, 2008 13:35
Me thinks so too, Trixie!
September 10th, 2008 14:02
I wonder if Guy Pelly was apart of this cleaning up list? You don’t seem him with William any more or atleast he was not in any photos at William recent b-day polo party. Kate and William don’t seem to go to his club anymore either.
September 10th, 2008 14:25
Pelly was last seen by the public eye at the Afika Afrika event with KM, TvS and Susana (Feb. 2008).
Pelly was last read by the public eye a few days before Williams birthday (June 2008), he was mentioned to be the co organizer together with KM for PW birthday party at the polo field, town they where at. I would think Mr. Pelly has the connections of the “people” to hire when making a “mobile” bar, club, disco, tent party.
September 10th, 2008 14:26
but, someone sold the private party pictures ?!
September 10th, 2008 14:58
Me, I don’t know if Kate and William would have been as affectionate with each other if they knew they were having pics taken of them under the tent. IMO. So I tend to think those pics were sold/given to the press by someone or they had a photog planted somewhere w/o their knowledge. But it was nice to get those type of photos cause it shows that they save the tender moments for when they feel protected or alone together.
September 10th, 2008 15:06
I always double post, sorry. Start to think of something after I press “send.” What’s ironic to me is that we have Kate, who respects the monarchy and William enough to be on her best behavior and then she get accused of being manipulative and press loving. Then we have Chelsy who still post, or her friends post, photos of herself drunk or not drunk and she does not get blasted by the press as much as Kate. The press have not even touched her brothers background yet. I am not saying she is not a nice person, she seems like a friendly gal.
September 10th, 2008 15:24
Right, I like Chelsy too, but the Kate bashing posters do not bash Chelsy for similar to worse actions.
September 10th, 2008 15:26
So I have to defend, bring out sarcastically or not, but roll the ball to create a conciousness, but its like blind eyes
September 10th, 2008 17:45
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September 10th, 2008 18:36
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September 11th, 2008 00:07
i thinked that the future king of england has busy sched in 2009. i thinked he will engage soon as he get extra time for his work. lets wait their announcenent.