Upper-Class Kate

Kate Middleton has been branded a “Sloane”. Kate – the girlfriend of Britain’s Prince William – is the epitome of a “Sloane ranger” according to Peter York, author of ‘The Official Sloane Ranger Handbook’.

He told Britian’s The Daily Mail newspaper: “Kate is definitely a Sloane, because half of it is about wanting to be one – and she really does.”

The term “Sloane” was originally coined in the 60s and is used to describe young upper and upper-middle-class men and women who live in South West London.

According to ‘The Official Sloane Ranger Handbook‘, some key features of Sloanes include: patriotism, an inflexible belief in the values of upper and upper-middle class culture, self-confidence in both themselves and their place in the world, a fondness of country living, philistinism and anti-intellectualism.

Peter also says he thinks Kate – whose mother used to be an air stewardess and her father a pilot – fits in well with the royal family, and added he does not believe reports some members of the family think she is not good enough to be dating the prince due to her background.

He said: “All that snobbishness about her mother’s airline past doesn’t come from the royals – it’s a horrible habit of some of the people Prince William and Prince Harry have fallen in with.” (via Monsters & Critics)

230 Responses to “Upper-Class Kate


  • Trixie
    September 23rd, 2008 07:23
    1

    This columns echos exactly what I am thinking about the whole roller disco drama:
    http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/opinion/anne_pickles/1.244437

    :-D

  • lisa
    September 23rd, 2008 07:37
    2

    Trixie,thanks for that article! It totally made my day..

    BTW,there is some lovely property for sale around Kinloss,Scotland. Nice and secluded and far from the reach of the paps :)

    Hope everyone has a great day! I expect good new when I return this evening.

  • mariskaagusta
    September 23rd, 2008 09:16
    3

    I believe that our soulmate can be from any background, there is from noble or poor family or anything else, we can’t know it cause that’s a secret of God’s. so if Catherine are candidate marriage partner of God, that’s a lucky for her of course, but i’m sure her destiny not like Diana, Catherine more lucky than Diana

  • Princess April Ann
    September 23rd, 2008 09:52
    4

    This picture of Kate looks nice and she seems to
    smile alot.

  • karenina
    September 23rd, 2008 10:51
    5

    Interesting you used a photo about four years old.
    Kate, she’s Middleclass through and through, that is nothing to be ashamed of, so why try to re-invent her, it’s too late for that. The Royal Family and Aristocrats are not fooled by Kate. Slapping the word Upperclass in front of her name won’t help, they know what she is.
    The Stop Kate Middleton tv shows are hilarious, when Pr.Phillip calls her “Kate Middleclass!”

    ** BRW – It’s a nice photo, that’s why I used it! **

  • Me
    September 23rd, 2008 11:03
    6

    The later paragraph with the Kate Middleclass ending with an exclamation mark is to make a statement of your opinion more obvious.

  • maddie
    September 23rd, 2008 13:28
    7

    This has always been my favorite picture of Kate. She looks so natural and healthy.

  • karenina
    September 23rd, 2008 15:00
    8

    Pr Phillip’s character in the” STop Kate Middleton” Videos calls her “KATE MiddleCLASS!, it’s soooooo funny,

    those videos are hilarious.
    Hahahaha on Truveo I think??

    The ITV channel or network, airs the STOP KATE Middleton segments , it’s a scream.

  • Me
    September 23rd, 2008 15:10
    9

    Yeah we got it, surely its a scream, KM in all the videos wins over PP, who ends up beat. Ain’t that so sweet to you.

  • karenina
    September 24th, 2008 10:38
    10

    I love the videos.

  • Rman
    September 24th, 2008 23:51
    11

    Downing Street has drawn up plans to lift 300 year old Anglican tradition to let Prince William’s future first born daughter become his heir. Now that is a step in the right direction. It’s only right. Wow, I’m telling you things are getting interesting.

    http://tinyurl.com/3hy992

  • Trixie
    September 25th, 2008 00:15
    12

    Thank you for the information, Rman. Interesting timing indeed. There would actually be no real reason to make any changes now since no female child is anywhere near the throne. The first 3 are all male and we all know that politicians wouldn’t touch upon such issues without some sort of need to do so. Does someone expect William to have a child possibly a daughter anytime soon? (soon meaning within a year or two since the legislative procedure is quite lengthy as well.) Would the other common wealth countries have to change the law as well (at least Canada and Australia)?

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 01:13
    13

    I don’t know but they did say that it’s quickly being done. The Guardian Newspaper did put a very prominent picture of W&K on it’s cover. Mainly pointing to the future of the Monarchy. I find it interesting though.

  • lisa
    September 25th, 2008 03:13
    14

    This is very interesting. Do you think it points to a pending marriage for William?

  • H
    September 25th, 2008 04:00
    15

    If you read the articles in the DM & the Guardian about the constitutional changes being proposed it also mentions that they are changing the law to allow Catholics to be allowed to rule. This is more significant. If you were reading things into situations then it is odd that they are rushing this through if PW & KM are still going strong, given that Kate isn’t Catholic as far as I’m aware.

    I am hoping that it isn’t being done to allow PW a wider choice of brides as many of the European princesses / nobility are catholic.

    So I certainly wouldldn’t read anything positive into this article for PW & KM.

  • H
    September 25th, 2008 04:16
    16

    Sorry what I should have said is that I don’t think that you should ready anything either positive or negative into this article for PW & KM.

    In addition we do not know what other changes are being proposed to the positioning of the monarchy. At the moment there seems to be an increased profile of PC & I’m wondering whether he is going to take on more responsibilities allowing the queen to slow down a bit. If you (ie. the government) wanted to change the role / positioning of the monarchy in the constitution of this country then the transition from the queen to PC would be the time to do it or alternatively if the labour party / Gordon Browns days are numbered they could be trying to push it through before they are out of power.

    Or it could have no real significance at all ….

  • dagsi
    September 25th, 2008 06:45
    17

    On a more cheerful note, Asda store chain reports a 400% jump on roller skate sales since Kate was spotted in them last week!

    Asda spokesman Helen Heseltine said: “Shoppers have been inspired by her roller girl laid-back look.

    “And they are keen to copy her toned, disco appearance.”

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/52228/S-Kates-bonanza-

    Critics may call her outfit unsuitable, but there’s no doubt about Kate’s impact on the crowd.

  • Trixie
    September 25th, 2008 08:16
    18

    Wow, that’s an impressive reaction. Looks like not many people were scandalised by her roller disco appearance no matter how much the press tried to spin it. Many still seem to see a role model in her.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 08:59
    19

    Er, isn’t Halloween coming? I can see lots of 20 year-old uni boys dressed as Kate this year, might explain the run on the skates?

    Please, lads, just leave the panythouse at home! :)

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:08
    20

    Could this new change to the constitution also apply to Princess Anne and the possibility that she could be chosen over Charles for the throne?

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 09:12
    21

    You mean a new law, with the added clause of being “retroactive”, meaning that PA who was born 50+ years ago with a new law say passed 2011, she will be the Queen ?!

    Its not a national emergency law IMO to be “retroactive”.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 09:12
    22

    ^ btw please don’t think my post was meant to reflect badly on Kate, as obviously her outfit was deliberately rather tongue-in-cheek.:)

    But it was wonderfully distinctive in the sense that one could easily achieve the same look for not much money.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:13
    23

    Sorry to post again, I have stated before that I thought Kate looked fuller in some photos. But photos can be decieving. If she were w/child I would not have expected her to go roller skating because she could fall, so that kind of throws my theory out the window.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 09:15
    24

    Me, while I adore Princess Anne and think she would have made one heck of a Queen that rule wouldn’t affect her as she was born in August, 1950 and Charles was born in November, 1948.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:18
    25

    Me, maybe I am confused. Rman states it is for PW first born daughter to be heir, so it might not apply to PA. Perhaps you have more insight.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:21
    26

    Alsgal, I agree I think PA would make a fantastic Queen. Too bad this was not changed long ago.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 09:28
    27

    When laws are passed, it says a clause of active date
    i.e. from September 24, 2008, meaning starting this date the law should be taken forth, meaning if the King and Queen Consort have a baby girl (in this case) onward to that date above mentioned, etc.

    If this new law is passed and has a retroactive date: i.e. August __, 1948, then you know what happens, Princess Royal Anne will be Queen after QEII, and the 2nd in line to the throne would be Peter. And forget about PC, PW, PH, the paparazzi will be behind P&A back.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 09:34
    28

    Guys, that’s impossible. The revised Act would call for William’s firstborn to succeed him, male or female.

    In the Queen’s case, her firstborn is Charles, so retroactively or not, nothing would change. :)

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 09:39
    29

    Guys what I meant was if William first born is a son, then he will be heir, but if his first born is a girl she could his heir too. That’s what they are saying.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 09:40
    30

    Right nothing will change because Charles is her first born.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:43
    31

    From what I have read, I don’t see any retroactive date given but the DM uses PA as an example in the article. IF PA were to be made Queen, then she would have to give Zara and Peter titles since they don’t have any now. I wonder if Charles is shaking in his boots at this thought? So they are eager to get this done by the fourth term, before Brown leaves office is what I gather. Then DM says Queen is having a hard time getting more money to fund monarchy. Strong women have ruled the monarchy and it only makes sense that this change should happen. I wonder if the Queen is worried about the public accepting Charles and Camilla as King and Queen and maybe PA would make a better choice?

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 09:47
    32

    Void my last post. I get what ya’ll are saying now. Sorry I am little slow this morning! Its first born, male/female to be allowed to reign. Wow, alot of stuff going on behing the scenes! I am glad they are making these changes as they are very outdated and don’t reflect today’s world.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 09:48
    33

    Using that logic then Zara will follow after Anne. Sounds fabulous. William never wanted to be King anyway. I’m sure that will make all of Kate’s non-fans assert that Kate will now dump William and go after Zara. Should be interesting! :)

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 10:33
    34

    Lol….that would be rather worrying alsgal if somebody did say that.

    IMO, this does not change the line of succession at the moment (except to put anne before andrew and edward etc.). But the heir and heir apparant will remain the same. Therefore, it will probably start from 2009 maybe 2008 if its passed quickly (I don’t know how long that takes). This means that it will affect William’s children more than anyone elses and as they are not born yet and maybe not be born for several years, I don’t think we need to worry yet.

    Besides it’s a good thing that it will be changed, women are just as good as men (and we can multi task :P )

    I’ve never heard William say that he did not want to be King. It was alleged when he was a young adult but he is know 26 and I am sure he has a very different view. I am sure that some of your opinions have changed since you were 18 (unless of course you are 18 or younger).

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 10:38
    35

    P.S. The skate thing. I am a cynic so I’d need an answer for this question for me to believe it: how many stores did this take place in? The reason I ask is because we heard this with the Topshop dress which she wore on her 25th birthday and apparently it was sold out in every store, except not in the 5 that are close to me (I go shopping a lot and I was searching for a pair of shoes which were sold out in most stores).

    Also, Trixie: I don’t think a person can be classified as a role model because she can help sales increase. Maybe as a PR tool but not a role model. IMO a role model is somebody is inspiring in terms of job, charity, ways to raise family, committments, ability or courage etc.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 10:52
    36

    She is a role model to some. And therefore to the journalist or the owner of the store – a role model.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 11:03
    37

    Right B, this will effect William’s children not the current heirs.

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 11:18
    38

    I agree B.

    Selling rollerskates doesn’t equate to role model,being photographed on the floor with legs askew, while laughing equates more towards noteriety.

    I also agree with alsgal. We may see some Halloweener’s dressed like Kate in her skate get-up.

    I found it interesting that Roman pointed the changes and left out the VERY IMPORTANT “Catholic” part of the story.

    Kate is NOT Catholic so if the change was meant for William and Kate, there would be no need to throw in the Catholic rule change.
    Besides William will be busy until he is 31 doing Military duty, he doesn’t appear to be planning marriage anytime soon with Kate.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 11:26
    39

    Sorry I did leave out the Catholic part but I was just putting up the link not explaining the whole thing.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 11:39
    40

    So what you’re all saying is that at the end of the day, once this has passed, is that Zara cannot marry Kate if Kate is Catholic? :)

    OK, seriously though it sounds like this has been brought up before so unfortunately it does not seem to be Kate and William specific. Which is disappointing.

    As for Kate being a role model, IMO I think she has the potential to become a role model but how could she be one already since so little is known about her? Sure we can admire her obvious beauty and discretion but there’s not much else we know about.

    Maybe as a fashion role model perhaps, but as B said, many of these stories exaggerate her influence just to get a story. I know that Topshop pot dress wasn’t sold out because my cousin, a much younger and thinner girl than I, bought one. So, I’m a bit skeptical.

    Nevertheless, Halloweeen here I come and I wonder if they have those yellow shorts in Size 22? I shall be the talk of the rink for sure! :)

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 11:49
    41

    Did anyone see the SUN Spoof of Kate Today.Ha!

    She must be cringeing.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 12:01
    42

    Well I think the reason why they put William & Kate’s picture on the cover is because if they marry, that means that they are the future of The Monarchy. That’s is the direction W&K seem to be heading. Well I think the Sun spoof is funny, the papers are always making fun of the royal family and now that Kate is in their fold, they are doing it to her too. Just like that silly YouTube series. Yeah she may be cringing but she’s got to get use to that. On YouTube they have some funny videos of people making fun of The Queen, Charles, Camilla and Philip.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 12:08
    43

    No, I didn’t Karenina as I take only the more highbrow publications like Hello!, Majesty, and occasionally, the Economist.

    I dread to hear that, as I think it’s unfair to turn a nice girl like Kate into anything spoofable. Kate has feelings too, and something like that would probably hurt her. She’s never hurt anyone, or me personally and to hear people talk about her, you’d think she’s just ran over their Granny with her parent’s Landrover. (Although I’d pay good money for someone to do that to mine, God what a spectacularly annoying pill she can be!)

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 12:15
    44

    She is starting to remind me of Sarah Ferguson.

    It is in the TV Biz section in the SUN.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 12:25
    45

    Sarah Ferguson is a hard-working girl who is still on good terms with her late husband so I would think that’s a good thing! :)

    Just saw the article (ty Karenina) and I hope Kate sees this for the compliment it actually is — meaning that she is now so much in the Firm they feel they can spoof her.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 12:25
    46

    Yes it is mean but what can you say. Alsgal, I’m with on that. Kate got alot of praise even from The Charities Aid Foundation so she know she and the committee did a great job. Her outfit was colorful and 80’s style and I liked it. But of course people was going to make fun of her but as long as she knows she did well,that’s what matters.

  • Trixie
    September 25th, 2008 12:30
    47

    My Gosh not even the Queen is above being spoofed. Honestly if all the guy could come up with is dress up in drag and wobble around on skates, Kate has nothing to fear. I can’t believe that more than a week later people are STILL debating this. One would think everything has been said by now that can possibly be said about those pics. I’m getting tired of it really.
    Are there no news?
    Does anyone know when William will have his next public engagement? I hope we won’t have to wait till the Bond premiere or this discussion will drag on for another months! :-o

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 12:42
    48

    Rman, I agree it was for a good cause and I am a bit put out that none of the papers pointed out how much money they raised, something like 28,000 pounds last I saw, which was quite impressive by anyone’s standards. Instead, it’s all yellow shorts, Kate, Kate fell, this means an engagement is coming, this means an engagement is not coming. The evening was not supposed to be about what Kate wore, or even about Kate, it was supposed to be about raising money and awareness. And that she did — big time!

    Trixie, I think 007 on 10/29 is next, unless we get a picture of William and Kate enjoying a happy and smiling evening out soon, which I hope and suspect we will. :)

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 13:27
    49

    No Trixie, no news. Not yet.

  • booboo
    September 25th, 2008 13:47
    50

    als gal are you saying kate’s outfit is ‘cheap’ hee hee

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 14:17
    51

    No booboo, what I meant was not that Kate looked cheap but that her Skating outfit could easily be duplicated for not very much money. That’s completely different.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 14:19
    52

    Yes, I agree there is not much more that can be said about Disco outfit. I am more interested in what caused the constitutional change now?

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 14:23
    53

    I doubt Kate laughs about the Sun spoof. She susposedly hates being called Waity Katie in the press, so I doubt she finds the spoof with the man pulling his legs open on the floor representing her, funny or flattering at all.

    I agree Kate is really not like Sarah Ferguson,
    Kate reminds me of Koo Stark.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 14:25
    54

    Kate ain’t no movie actress, kate is kate.

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 15:04
    55

    IMO, that Sun spoof was OTT. I felt that was really offensive to her.

    Roller Skates from Asda: I have another question. How many were actually sold? Because if 2 were sold usually and suddenly 8 were sold that makes a 400% increase but has nobody thought that those 8 could just have been for someone’s party or for some other event that was not connected?

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 15:08
    56

    Pippa sighting at Getty. She attended “End of Summer Ball.” Looks to be an Issa dress she is wearing too. Pippa is quite the social butterfly! Is there any kind of Polo games coming up or is Polo season done?

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 15:17
    57

    Just seen the pictures. Pippa looked so beautiful and classy. I definately think that she is the beauty of the family. There was one right at the end of the first row, when she is walking up the steps that I thought was lovely.

    She is a party planner so I suppose that as part of her job she goes out to lots of other parties that she is invitied to. At least we have not seen her drunk and she always looks elegant.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 15:20
    58

    B, it’s obvious to me you must be some kind of math major because I was wondering the exact same thing!

    To say there’s been a huge increase doesn’t mean anything because I can’t imagine a lot of people buy skates in the first place. So, I’d put that doexaggeration and give thanks that at least the are saying something flattering. At least, I read that as flattering, but maybe I’ve made the wrong assumption.

    Still, Kate is a trendsetter and that cannot be denied.

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 15:29
    59

    I agree B, I like Pippa much better.
    I also always felt Pippa wore clothing better than Kate does also.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 15:31
    60

    I think Pippa is attractive, but she tends to overdue the tanning to the point where she can look a little orange. I hope she is spray tanning because she will aged horribly if she constantly stays as dark as she is.

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 15:53
    61

    Yes I just saw the pictures and she does look good.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 15:56
    62

    Yes, Gracie I agree she does look a bit orange at times but I always attributed that to an overdose of beta-carotene!
    Goodness, I hope if that is only a tan, that comes from a can and that she is not sitting on a sun bed that often.

    I do agree, she is an attractive girl but Kate’s the real beauty in that family IMO.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 16:08
    63

    Why write an article of Asda saying they sold 400%, if the assumption, theory would be from 2 to 8.

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 16:08
    64

    Thanks alsgal. I’ve got an A level in maths which was helpful towards getting me a place at the university. I started this month and am studying law. Although I didn’t get the chance to party like Bea; I have a baby to look after.

    I still think that Pippa is prettier, I think the shape of her profile is smoother. I often think that Kate looks old now (not old as in 50 but mid thirties at least). I think that’s because she insists on putting the black eyeliner on which is just too harsh for her complexion. Pippa always appears to wear less make up so appears more naturally beautiful.

    It was said an article once that Pippa had always been the beauty of the family which was why it was surprising that Kate would bag William.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 16:09
    65

    That’s not significant, if any wish to make an investigation, and there would be the ridicule – spoof.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 16:10
    66

    Kate going out with William, why use the term ‘bag’. Ohh lord

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 16:11
    67

    I chose 2 and 8 as a slight exaggeration of small sales, but really how many skates do you think people buy in a week? They aren’t something I see people wearing down the street. At least not those type of skates, most people wear the ones with just one blade thingy around London. I would not have thought that they would sell that many as alsgal said therefore to say that they have sold 400% makes it sound bigger than it really is and has more impact.

  • B
    September 25th, 2008 16:14
    68

    Because I think that was a direct quote from the article except I forgot to put quotation marks around it. Besides, in the UK that is just the way people use slang, please do not criticize about the way I write. I find it very derogatory.

    Good night.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 16:55
    69

    Deragotary is using the term bag, and its not widely used in the UK nor in the USA. Its offensive. I bagged myself xx, how would my friends feel or think about me using that term

    The rollerdisco was an 80’s theme, likewise in fashion vintage comes back and people buy. I wouldn’t know, would have to go to Asda and find out, but why would a journalist even write an article for a insignificant number of pairs, it would be an average to important number, IMO.

    I am sorry, perhaps I’m bit fuzzy today.

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 17:34
    70

    B, I hate to disagree but I think Kate is the real beauty and William is lucky to have her. Kate features, are much softer than Pippa’s and her smile seems more genuine. I think the tan makes Pippa look a little hard and at times makes her appear older than what she really is. I do agree with you on Kate’s liner, sometimes I find she makes it to heavy.

  • alsgal
    September 25th, 2008 18:29
    71

    Perhaps she’s trying to remind William or others of his Mum? That was her signature look?

  • gracie
    September 25th, 2008 18:51
    72

    Alsgal, very true. I hope we get some photos soon.

  • lisa
    September 25th, 2008 19:03
    73

    hello all…well it is thursday right? I would settle for some shots exiting Bouji’s at this point. :)

  • Rman
    September 25th, 2008 20:01
    74

    I thought they would go to the ball but I guess they have other events in mind. Pippa looked great and it was nice to see her there to support The Prince’s Trust. Bu I hope to see William & Kate soon.

  • lisa
    September 25th, 2008 20:19
    75

    Kate should have attended this event IMO. With or without William. It was a great chance to get some positive PR. I must say I am shaking my head at this point. All Kate has to do is start doing some appearances at some respected charity events, looking great and the sting of the roller disco will begin to fade. Where is William training right now?

  • karenina
    September 25th, 2008 21:07
    76

    Pippa looked great at the event, I loved the dress.

    I agree B, I think as both girls/ladies Pippa and Kate are maturing Pippa is becoming the beauty.
    I think Pippa has better bone structure. Kate’s face, is just round. I think Pippa’s body is proportioned much better too, even though Kate is taller.

  • dagsi
    September 25th, 2008 21:13
    77

    PARTY PIECES UPDATES

    A quick visit to partypieces.co.uk would show you a some signs of Kate involvement.

    1. Newly-launched Cherrypicked Collection. Click on the logo, and voila, at the bottom of the Cherrypicked page, we get a small pic of Kate with her mum. The file name, vicky_mum_kate_WEB.jpg, indicates that indeed, she’s called “Kate” in her family.

    2. The Personalised Gifts section. Probably means nothing, but note the names Kate, James, Harry and William (a clock!).

    3. The Gift Experience section. Clearly linked to Virgin Experience Days — probably in collaboration with Holly Branson.

    4. Starlight Charity. Party Pieces has joined forces with Starlight Children Foundation for terminally ill kids. Take note that this is also the charity associated with this year’s Boodles Boxing Ball.

    I think it’s wonderful that Kate’s actively participating in PP. I hope it erases doubts of her involvement in the family business. I only hope people don’t start accusing her of cashing in on her connections.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 21:25
    78

    Wait till she signs with the Harry Potter and all its characters, boy that will sell lots of party pieces. :) good for her ;)

  • L
    September 25th, 2008 21:48
    79

    Good detective work, Dagsi!

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 22:01
    80

    Daily Express 09/14

    Kate Middleton knows her Harry Potter

    Jealous girls say they can’t see what Prince William sees in Kate Middleton, b’tching that she has limited conversation.

    There’s one subject on which Kate can happily witter on for hours, though: Harry Potter. To prepare for their bid to market the boy wizard’s merchandise through their mail order company Party Pieces, Kate’s parents asked her to mug up on JK Rowling’s creation.

    “She’s read all the books in record time and she now has an encyclopaedic knowledge of the subject” reports a chum. “Ask her anything about Hogwarts and you can’t shut her up.”

    With Kate now working for the family four days a week she has also become an expert on Winnie the Pooh and Hannah Montana, which have also just been added to Party Pieces’ expanding range.

    Adds her friend: “She watches CBeebies more than most children but it’s all for work.”

    So dagsi if this turns out to be true and JKR signs a deal with PP, let the Kate Haters eat cake.

    I’m being really bitchy today, after reading so many obnoxious comments about her rollerdisco charity, ahhh I’m a bit pist with the sexual innuendos of her fall, actually I’m grossed out with some posters descriptions.

    I’m sorry if I was mean to B, and/or anyone else.

  • Apryl
    September 25th, 2008 22:06
    81

    Oh please no one is jealous of Kate.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 22:49
    82

    Facebook search button – Its incredible, 9 pages related to rollerdisco, the majority of them just created fan clubs, others making events at venues and others private parties, some even with the 4 wheelers skate fan club and where to buy them. Almost all of them in the UK.

    Check this one out:

    Start Time:
    Saturday, October 4, 2008 at 8:00pm
    End Time:
    Sunday, October 5, 2008 at 2:00am
    Location:
    Rollerdisco @ Vauxhall
    Street:
    Renaissance Rooms Off Miles Street Opposite Arch No: 8 Vauxhall
    City/Town:
    London, United Kingdom

    Hi there it is my 18th birthday and I will celebrate it in Roller Disco Reinascence in Vaxhall

    Whip out your spandex and leg warmers for one of the most friendly and fun-packed nights in London, complete with the best seventies hits, funky house music and rare soul grooves. With its musically and visually kitsch-cool atmosphere and retro appeal, Roller Disco is THE hotspot for clubbing on wheels.

    So whether you’re a pro skater or an absolute beginner, or simply looking to put a different spin on a good time head down to Vauxhall for an unforgettable night of disco!

    Arena 1 – Classic Disco & Funk

    Arena 2 – House and Eclectic “Skate Adventure”

    Passport or Driving licence will be asked for and admission refused without proof.

    We are unable to accept Student/Work cards for identification purposes.

    Every Thursday/Friday/Saturday @ Renaissance Rooms, Vauxhall

    Saturday: 8pm – 2am / £12.50
    Please book online or purchase your tickets on the door.

    Whatever you feel confortable to skate in. Pretty much anything goes, 80’s and 70’s, abstract, character….

    What not to wear: No baseball caps or hooded tops are allowed.

    Too many pages (9) of them with parties all over the UK cities :amased:

  • dagsi
    September 25th, 2008 22:49
    83

    With the Harry Potter film’s release delay, maybe we won’t see a significant HP addition to PP anytime soon. But I really don’t understand what the article means, Me. Are they trying to get an exclusive deal with JKR? A bit strange, don’t you think? Besides, they already have Harry Potter themed partyware. With the Cherrypicked collection, it sure looks like they’re expanding the business beyond your standard party stuff.

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 22:51
    84

    I think so dagsi, that was a piece of article from the Daily Express this past sunday. Not reliable but, now a days with all the tabs, can’t tell whats true or not, just have to wait until “it happens”. Like in Wills case, so much talk and until CH spoke ! :)

  • Me
    September 25th, 2008 22:56
    85

    Facebook hahaha: the previous one will turn 18 years old, this one 35 years old (he even made a poster for his party).

    YES FOLKS ITS TRUE IM HITTING THIRTY-FIVE 160408
    THE PLAN IS TO GO OUT FOR A MEAL ON THE TUES AND THEN INTO TOWN PROB GOING FOR A MEAL BETWEEN 6.30 – 7.00PM OR WHEN ITS EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO GET THERE

    THEN ANYONE UP FOR THE PRINTWORKS ON THE WED FOR A ROLLERDISCO AT PURE

    hahahah

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 00:18
    86

    Thank you dagsi for the information. I am sure however that we’ll soon be told that this doesn’t mean anything and that Kate is just doing PR for herself and doesn’t work at all but is a lazy do nothing who sits on her bum 24/7 and waits for William to propose to her.
    Me I do not want to burst your bubble but I think the roller disco existed way before the recent charity event. So I wouldn’t be sure that all those people only decided to have one just because of Kate. However her appearance obviously wasn’t seen as an embarrassment either or noone would want to be associated with it.

  • bluefire
    September 26th, 2008 04:31
    87

    i thinked kate is not an upper class because when she was at flight in mystique.she refuse to be in the VIP lounge of the plain. instead in economy seat, thats only in my opinion.

  • bluefire
    September 26th, 2008 04:33
    88

    and pls. dont judge the lady.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 05:29
    89

    Yes the rollerdisco existed, I was just amased with the amount of pages in facebook dedicated to rollerdisco and 70’s-80’s theme. I for one didn’t think people, specially in the UK, most of the 9 pages of it where created there.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 05:34
    90

    Quote Trixie
    Thank you dagsi for the information. I am sure however that we’ll soon be told that this doesn’t mean anything and that Kate is just doing PR for herself and doesn’t work at all but is a lazy do nothing who sits on her bum 24/7 and waits for William to propose to her.
    Unquote

    Your so funny, but that is exactly what the Kate ditractors will say.

  • dagsi
    September 26th, 2008 06:42
    91

    lol. Yes, I’m sure Kate detractors will do anything to belittle anything Kate’s accomplished. It’s sad, actually, because I’m sure it’d be easier for Kate to involve herself in more causes if people didn’t find fault in everything she does.

    But as for PP, I think the Starlight Charity and Gift (Virgin) Experience bits show signs that are undoubtedly Kate. And those who continue to deny her involvement can take a hike… :D

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 08:55
    92

    I did go over to the PP site (having ordered many of the pieces for Big Al’s Pirate Party — which ended up being more of a Beer-a-thon!) and that is a lovely picture in the Cherrypicking section of Kate and her mother. I assume the one on the left is Pippa, sans tan? A really lovely family.
    I wonder why there is no picture of James with the cakes, though. He is a very handsome young man and I think that would be nice to include him as well.

    As for the choice of names, well, it does seem they’ve used names which must appeal to a certain demographic and I would assume that doesn’t include many foreigners, as there’s nary a Iman, Ming or Omar to be found. It would be nice if they were more inclusive, but that’s OK as that may just not be their customer base. William … clock. Hmmm, waiting. time. Or maybe Mr. Middleton would like to clock William for not getting a move on?

    Which he certainly should!JMO. However, I wouldn’t read too much into it, as sometimes a clock is just a clock.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 09:58
    93

    Scratch that. There’s no way the woman on the left of the Cherrypicking team is Pippa.

    I just saw pictures of a very dark Pippa in the Mail at a charity ball –

    bloody hell! She looks like Pocahontas!

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 10:02
    94

    Alsgal, she is to tan! Pippa needs to lay off tanning for a couple of days to make it look more natural. This is my theory, that if William and Kate were over, Pippa would not be going to a ball that support Prince’s Trust. IMO.

  • maddie
    September 26th, 2008 10:10
    95

    Kate does look stunning in that pic. I think her mother looks great for her age.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 10:17
    96

    Let’s hope Pippa knows what’s good for getting rid of too much tan — scrubbing with a loofah dipped in baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) usually works great.

    Still, a beautiful girl w/ a lovely petite figure, although I still think Kate has the winning edge.

    Speaking of Pippa, I see that Neil Sean at Fox is reporting that Kate is having to deal w/ a leak “close to her” who has speaking to a celebrity magazine. I have always assumed it was Pippa but I thought it was not a bad thing as the Hello! articles are always kind, fair and unbiased.

    Also, he mentions Harry’s comment about his brother being “soppy in love” — so that’s great to hear. Just confirms to me they’re very much on.:)

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 10:34
    97

    PS Neil has got it wrong again — Kate is not “jobless.” Arrrghhh!!!
    Why doesn’t anyone believe she’s working in her family’s firm? Her picture is now even on their web site, so what part of Party Pieces Exclusive Cherrypicking Team doesn’t Neil Sean understand?!#$!

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 10:54
    98

    Well in all honesty we can only assume that Kate has done a lot of work for the Cherrypicking team. We don’t actually have any proof. For all we know she could just have watched CBeebies and suggested some themes. Unlikely, but possibly. Neil Sean has got it wrong a lot and is less reliable than Michael Fish. (The British members will know Fish and the Great Storm that we were all told would never happen). Lol.

    I disagree with you alsgal about the leakers. I agree that I have thought that Pippa does leak but I do disagree with you about it being a good thing if the article is positive. Several weeks ago people here were declaring that Kate should stop all the leaking as the leaks were making her look bad. The problem I have is that people cannot say that it is wrong of people to leak negative stuff, but okay to leak positive stuff. That’s double standards and hypocritical.

    Just seen the picture of her on the Party Pieces website. It took me ages to find them as I didn’t see the link at first. Lol. She does look very pretty in the one with her mum and Vicky (I presume that is her name). Where are the other photos? Can someone provide a link please as I could not see them. Also, is anyone able to zoom in on the photo without damaging the clarity of it? I’d like to see bigger picture my contacts aren’t doing their job today; some days I wonder if I nearly blind rather than deaf.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 11:03
    99

    I wonder if the Queen will like Kate’s photo on website? What kind of deal would Kate get with J.K. Rowling, exclusive party stuff?

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 11:07
    100

    Like most gossip “journalists” Neil Sean doesn’t do any research of his own but just repeats and exagerates what he heard elsewhere. He’s in the US after all. I assume his “sources” are first and foremost the British tabs and they have not picked up the new PP site and details – and probably won’t since that’s not scandalous at all and Waity Katie sells rather well. So why harm the image of the perfect punching ball for all those who need someone to harp about.

    If someone close to Kate really talked (to Hello for example) I agree that they should stop. I can understand that her friends or relatives would want to help her and dismiss all the b/s currentyl written about her but it’s better to keep a safe distance to the press. Otherwise they’ll ger very nasty once you retreat back into privacy. She need not talk to the press to expose the slant written about her as untrue, actions speak louder than words and if she is really involved with this new charity by PP that’s an amazing start, IMO.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 11:17
    101

    I think it would be good if PP provides party supplies for sick children in hospitals. If Kate is going to continue to work for PP we will never see the girl! I wonder why we have not gotten any photos of William working lately? Usually they like to have some press photos so the public thinks he is busy doing something.

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 11:26
    102

    Yes I think that would be a great start too. Lie I said before that we need to see her doing more charity work. The more she is seen doing that, the better.

  • dagsi
    September 26th, 2008 11:29
    103

    B, that picture you saw from Party Pieces is the only one of Kate in the entire website. And it’s a rather small one too. If I were on a PR campaign like naysayers would claim, I’d plaster my face all over the website hugging children in their party costumes. (I’m still quite distrustful because I know that somehow, in some way, people will use everything she does against her.) But for the record, I think she’s doing a wonderful thing in the family business. You can definitely see Kate’s mark in the recent site developments.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 11:38
    104

    Thanks dagsi. Wow, you make it sound like you know Kate to say that you see her mark. Tell me what exactly is “her mark” and could only have been hers on the site?

  • dagsi
    September 26th, 2008 11:47
    105

    And let me just add: now that Kate has shown a more prominent involvement with Party Pieces (especially if the media picks it up), I hope the business won’t be bombarded with unnecessary phone calls or catalogue orders from people who have no intention of being a proper customer. And I mean reporters who want to get scoops on Kate and the products, people ordering catalogues just to see a sample of what Kate works on, and I’ve already read ideas of ordering products with demeaning names just to spite her. Rather undignified, IMO. I have always thought of PP and the Middleton family as a safe haven for Kate and gossip-crazed media, and it would be such a shame if they destroyed that sanctuary as well.

    gracie, in as much as I’d love to see pictures of Kate and William, I think they seriously crave the last bit of privacy then can have. I need my royal fix once in a while, but I’m willing to sacrifice that for their sake :D That said, Kate should stay with PP in Berkshire, and Wills should stay low with whatever he’s doing.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 11:48
    106

    If true, that Kate is not happy with the leaker to magazines, I hope she does not find its someone in her family doing it. But then again Diana always denied that she has anything to do with the Morton bio yet gave friends permission to talk to him.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 12:19
    107

    Please permit me, “her mark” is the before and after of the PP website. There are many changes and additions that you may tell, that’s if you truly visit the site with certain frequency to notice so. I know many posters do not enter, perhaps 1 or 2 times since ever posting.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 12:47
    108

    JMO but I’m OK with Pippa being the leaky ship, just as long as she’s not the Titanic, sailing them all into the iceberg!

    Why shouldn’t someone speak out in defence of Kate, though? It certainly doesn’t seem like William is, or any member of his family or CH, so really, I just don’t have a problem with it. OK, so some might say well, then Kate’s not being that discreet but she’s been made fun of so much lately I don’t see what other choice she has.

    Gracie, very good detective work there and I do think they are very much “on” if Pippa is out at a ball benefitting the Prince’s Trust. I don’t see that she’d go if things were suddenly kaput due to the RAF announcement — unless, of course, she’d already paid the 700 pound ticket far in advance.

    Why weren’t PC or Camilla there?

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 12:56
    109

    Me, I do like the site very much but in all honesty I have been going there for two years now what with all the extended Scotch-Bulgarian family we have and I cannot see much of a difference as the site has always been absolutely tip top professional.

    Cherrypicking is new, and all the charitable stuff is new, but frankly, I do think that’s due to all the pleading in the press that Kate do something charitable. Otherwise, why not before?

    You all know I’m Kate’s Number # 1 fan, but c’mon, even I can see the Middleton’s have had to respond to the public pressure (or maybe it was the Queen’s) that Kate do something, preferably charitable. Or is it just a coinky-dinky coincidence?

    That’s not to reflect badly on Kate AT ALL — just to say I think they are aware of the criticism of Kate and have addressed it. That’s a good thing! :)

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 12:59
    110

    I see the new changes as merely an expansion of a growing business, not necessarily something of purely her doing. Let’s try not to put Kate on too high a pedestal. I visit every so often, probably about once a month just to look for changes or when it comes up in the news. We don’t know how big a hand Kate has had in this expansion, I doubt it was her who decided to do the Cherrypicked team. She probably contributed and helped do the photographs, catalogue, market research, designs etc. But this things I have listed are the only type of jobs that we have heard of her doing. Until we hear that she was the mastermind behind the Cherrypicked Team, I have a hard time believing it.

    Alsgal, I’m okay with them leaking but if some people are able to leak positive things, leaks which say something negative should be given a similar accepting response. We can’t see it’s okay for you too leak X because it is positive but not Y because it is negative. I think we either have to accept both but or none at all. Trying to balanced and all.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:01
    111

    Alsgal’s post makes more sense but I meant the same thing. I’m glad she posted that ! Thanks alsgal :)

    P.S. what made you choose the name alsgal? i’ve never heard of it before, but I really like it.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 13:09
    112

    B, respectfully I see what you’re saying but why couldn’t Cherrypicking have been Kate’s entire idea? How hard could it be to sit down and pick out 400 items? I used to do the same thing as a tot w/ the Sears catalogue, just dreaming of all the toys I wanted, then I would take my pencil and put a little mark. (Also took a bit of a peek at the men’s jockey shorts section, but that is for another time. :) ) So, I’m willing to give Kate full credit for a job well done.

    You will have to admit, these are some beautiful items, just really nice, fun things and I do believe those “leaks” about Kate having an artistic eye, as it seems to be true!

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 13:14
    113

    I chose Alsgal as “B” was taken :)

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 13:23
    114

    It just dawned on me (I’m slow today) that the recent updates on the PP site prove that Kate indeed put together a catalogue of new items and probably took the pics. Are it really 400 items? That sounds like a lot of work. So much for those who snarkily remarked how much effort it could be to “photograph cupcakes”. Well taking 400 high quality pics DOES take a whole lot of time plus putting together a catalogue and website and arranging charity engagements etc sounds very much like full time occupation to me.
    Will Kate host the 200 parties for the kiddies? The site says they want to have 200 this year. Does that mean they already held some because there\’s only 3 months of the year left. How do they want to organise 200 parties in 3 months?

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:24
    115

    But why could it be? Just because the girl is famous and has finally got off her backside and started working, why is it that we are all willing to suddenly give Kate full credit? I am sure that there are many many many other people within that organisation. From start to finish an expansion usually takes at least year (planning, ideas, designs, adjustments, financial details, legal info, manufacturing, testing, adjusting, ensuring that the IT systems are up to date, lots of admin etc etc. When my partner expanded his business it took him quite a while just to get all the details right for him to start the expansion. Admittedly it is not on the same scale. Party providers probably requires a bit less work than a PR, marketing and consulting firm but I would expect it to take a year. Well, Kate was not working for her parents a year ago. She was in London most of the time and was working for Jigsaw.

    Alsgal, you said that the website had always looked polished and beautiful, there is no change in that at all, the style is still what it always has been and Kate never designed it at the beginning so she is probably just continuing rather than changing.

    I don’t want to say that it is all her work, because in business things are rarely all down to one person. Ideas are often discussed and many many people contribute to them. Unless there is real evidence to suggest that it was ALL Kate’s idea and that she deserves FULL credit, we could be ignoring all the other employees there who did think of it. You may say that there is no evidence to suggest that she did not create it but where is the evidence to suggest that she did?

    The photograph?

    There were three people in that photograph. Mrs Middleton one of the creators. Kate; we know that she was helping market research and creating the catalogue (there has been no evidence at all to suggest she has done more than this) and Vicky; who we do not know. How do we know that this was not Vicky’s idea or Mrs Middleton’s? There were three of them in that photo and in some peoples’ eagerness to prove that Kate does work I think a very big leap has been made with no evidence to back it up.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:29
    116

    alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 13:14
    I chose Alsgal as “B” was taken

    Lol. :)

    *smiling sweetly*

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:30
    117

    Trixie: It definately shows that the reports about the catalogue and photos were true.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 13:35
    118

    B, I know that when my Al came up with a new flavor idea for a new Tim Horton’s donut it was that hussy of a manager who took full credit, so I can see the importance of giving credit where credit is due.
    Let’s face it, in a private, family owned firm it is often the case where the grunts do the hard work and the heirs get to do the neat, fun stuff, but how can we be sure that’s the case here? Just because that’s the case a lot of times doesn’t mean that it’s the case THIS time. So, I’m willing to give Kate the benefit of the doubt, and assume if they (aka Pippa to Hello!)said she works hard there, that she really is.

    And who the heck is Vicky — I keep hearing her name but who is she, really?

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 13:38
    119

    I don’t think anyone claims that Kate did ALL the work ALL alone – at least I didn’t understand it that way. I agree that otherwise it wouldn’t make any sense that Vicky and Carole would be in the picture as well. The site clearly refers to them as a “team” hecne they all contributed.
    I assume Carole is something like a managing director in the firm and is probably involved in every expansion/selection they have, giving the get go and making the rough outline etc – I doubt she does the hands-on work though. Vicky may be the person for the administrative stuff like selecting the products and suppliers, set the prices etc. and Kate may have given the artistic input like taking the pictures arranging the website and catalogue etc. That may also explain why she joined the project later on. Her input wasn’t needed at the early stages. And she’s been back in Berkshire at least since January this year.
    Obviously the site still looks like Party Pieces but it would make no sense to change the design competely since the clients should associate the new products with what they already know (and are pleased with).
    However do you think it’s anything but full time work to put something like this together? Even in ateam of 3?

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 13:40
    120

    alsgal, Vicky is the woman in the pic with Carole and Kate. If you safe the picture the name says “Vicky, Kate, Carole”.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:43
    121

    No idea alsgal whos she is but she was in the photograph with them.

    All I am trying to say is that as we have no evidence other than that photograph (which does not show a speech bubble telling us what each person did- poor attempt at a joke), I don’t think we can fairly say that it was Kate who came up with everything.

    Sorry about Al’s idea being pinched. That’s awful! I can totally understand how you feel about that, managers often do try to do things like that. (My partner is reading this over my shoulder and has asked me to mention that in his company everyone is given credit when due. Honestly, you don’t even know the name of the company and he feels he must preserve a reputation. Men! *shaking head*) I hope Al was able to prove it was his idea. If not and he does have proof I know that in the UK there is a law that could help give him the credit.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 13:45
    122

    That’s what I mean Trixie. I never said she didn’t work full time or anything like that but alsgal did say that she was giving Kate FULL credit which I personally felt that unfair to the others. I believe that the work was divided up as you said Trixie.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 14:06
    123

    I agree, it would seem only logical that given all that work, that it was divided up. No, I don’t think Kate did all of it, just saying let’s give credit where credit is due, even if we don’t actually know what she’s done, we at least know she’s done something!

    B, I actually like the idea of a speech bubble, albeit one professionally done, as that would clarify things for the naysayers, like:

    “Hi, I’m Vicky, I make sure everything is accounted for and properly reported so we don’t get to meet Inland Revenue up close and personal.”/”Hi, I’m Carole, and I run the whole thing, dammit!” /”Hi, I’m Kate, and if William doesn’t marry me, I’ll also have to run the whole thing one day, dammit!”

    And so on. But for now, we’ll all have to take Unnamed Friend Who Spoke to Hello! at her word that Kate is there working away. And I, for one, am fine with that.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 14:10
    124

    Trixie, you understand me exactly! :)

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 14:16
    125

    After all of that debating, I think we all agreed with each other but just misunderstood what we all meant. Thank the Lord for Trixie being able to post that comment, as we all agree with it. Lol.

    I hope we all understand each now as I think we do.

    :) Days like today are one of the reason that I enjoy this site. We may misunderstand one another but we soon work it out and today it seems we all agreed in the first place!

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 14:24
    126

    So true hee hee :)

    Now who here thinks Camilla is the leak and not Pippa? Why not Pippa? Why not James? Why not Kate’s great Aunt Phyllis?

  • Trixie
    September 26th, 2008 14:28
    127

    … or Vicky. ;-)

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 14:30
    128

    ROFL :)

  • Shivs
    September 26th, 2008 14:35
    129

    Hi guys! I read your comments every single day but have never posted till now… I have to say that I was surprised when people commented earlier on how Pippa is more attractive than Kate. I believe that Kate has a softness to her features and ‘kind eyes’ which makes her endearing to so many. Being Irish I never had ANY interest in British Royals until I noticed her in a magazine some time back and since then have been following her life (and fashion sense)religiously! She makes a great role model for young women as we are bombarded with fake tan and hair extensions from other ‘celebs’. I really just wnated to say that she stands out and I wish her well…
    I’m sure Pippa is lovely too!!

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 14:55
    130

    I thought this video was interesting and how Katie Nicholls talked so nicely about Kate. It’s a older video but I liked it.

    http://tinyurl.com/47etjx

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 14:55
    131

    Lol….Good one Trixie :) She has an Aunt Phyllis? ???

    Welcome Shivs, hope you have fun posting here. We are all a bit wacky at times but it’s good fun and everyone’s friendly.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 15:00
    132

    Shivs, my heartiest welcome to you and I agree Kate is delightfully free of the hair extensions, fake tan and breasts that seem to be plaguing the celebrity world these days. Although that said, one really does have to admire the likes of Katie Price, a woman who has worked hard for everything she’s gotten, so kudos to those who have made the best they have with what they’ve got, and kudos to those, who, if they ain’t got it, have at least paid for it themselves.

  • B
    September 26th, 2008 15:03
    133

    :) Can’t say anything against if they’ve paid for it themselves (except maybe Katie Price’s original bust cup was a bit too big, she looks fantastic now though!)

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 15:10
    134

    B, I think she’s a naturally beautiful woman but can’t say I’m a fan of the new trout pout.

    Also, thanks for the video link Rman, but if Jodie Marsh can learn to get out of a car without showing her knickers …

    why then, oh why can’t I? :)

  • Shivs
    September 26th, 2008 15:17
    135

    Thanks for the welcome!! Funny that most people well endowed in the bust department would gladly give them away, and are perplexed that people would actually pay for them!! It’s nice to hear that Keira Knightley thinks kate is a ‘great girl’ according to Sean Neil. :0)

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 15:26
    136

    Because KM takes about 10 seconds, too fast too furious

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 15:29
    137

    For what its worth, I never took it that Cherrypicked was all Kate’ s idea either. The picture is of the three of them, and since no one name is listed, I assumed that it was a collaberation of of their ideas. I think Kate has been doing stuff all along but because of the bad press felt she needed to put her picture on the web page. It does not even list her name w/ the photo, so it shows me that her ego is not one to where she needs to have all the recognition. People talk like Kate uses her connections to get anything she wants. Most of us have gotten deals because of a boyfriend, girlfriend , spouse or parent got a special rate on something in our lives even if its a free lolipop at the bank. I think if Kate wanted to use her connections w/ William she would have made herself more visible on PP long ago, but she did not. But it does not matter as there are some who just don’t like Kate and will find fault w/anything she does.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 15:29
    138

    The PP site now has the picture of Vicky, Kate & Carol, front page, scroll down with The Party Pieces Team.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 15:30
    139

    Shiv, indeed it is nice to hear that Keira is an admirer, although other than the dark hair I honestly don’t see much of a resemblance between these two beauties.

    What would this be a Lifetime Women’s Movie of the week type of thing? I would be shocked if someone of Keira’s caliber did a royal movie, as apart from The Queen, most of them are rather cheesy?

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 15:34
    140

    Alsgal, love your pop-up bubble idea! I would use those words exactly. Someone on the other forum mentioned William name being on a clock on PP, like you did Alsgal. So perhaps she is sending subliminal messages.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 15:37
    141

    Me, you are so right on PP. I just took a look. I wonder if they read our blog, cause they got those names up there pretty quick!

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 15:39
    142

    Me, I just saw your post and yes, it is now good to see Kate front page and center and THAT my friends, should rebut her critics. Why? Because if she wasn’t working for Party Pieces, they wouldn’t have her picture on the webite. It’s just that simple, folks.

    I am wondering why they’re making a point of this this week, as the picture wasn’t there 2 weeks ago, after what many rudely called “Skategate” ? Do you think it has anything to do with the RAF announcement? As in, whilst PW is away for the next 18 months, Kate will be working front and center for Party Pieces and here’s our-read-btween-the-lines way of saying it?

    Trying to get a sense here, read the tea leaves, if you will …

  • Shivs
    September 26th, 2008 15:39
    143

    Thanks for the clip Rman. I’m shocked that Katie Nicholl isn’t a total hag(as I imagined considering the hideous stories she’s written!) She reminds me of Teri Hatcher. Anyway regarding the PP website I think the photo shows she has a central role but as with with most work it takes a team effort. I would love to bump into ‘Vicky’ for a chat someday!!! Wouldn’t that be fun!!

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 15:41
    144

    One article last week or 2 said she had no plans in leaving PP, and that she was planning to stay there and word ‘hard’.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 15:49
    145

    Me, that was in the Unnamed Friend Who Spoke To Hello! article, I believe?

    When was that? Before or after the RAF announcement on 9/15?

    Indeed, it would be interestng to hear from Vicky about what a nice sort of person Kate is, and I’ve heard that her mother is rather vivacious as well. Pippa obviously is, so just a lot of vivaciousness there. But a lovely family, and I must admit if only I was 30 years younger, I might be known in these parts as Jimsgal instead.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 15:53
    146

    Maybe Vicky was the person who said “that she is lazy is nonsense, she works very hard”

    Don’t remember if Hello, DExpress, but I know it was 1-2 weeks ago, I think before the Rollerdisco.

  • Shivs
    September 26th, 2008 15:56
    147

    alsgal, to be honest I can\’t see anyone making a film about Kate until she\’s more established… time will tell.

    regardless I see her making he mark in PP. Kate, as a public figure, has longevity! Nobody forgot about her last year during the \’split\’.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 15:59
    148

    So Neil Sean is suggesting that this “mole” might leak more info in the following weeks? What more can be said? Well I guess alot!

    Alsgal, what could this mean? The photo was just moved to the front on PP today in a matter of hours. So, IMO, there is a reason for everything. What do your tea leaves say Alsgal? Can you read tarot cards like the other forum?

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 16:10
    149

    Is Camilla related to Kate? Camilla’s father was Bruce Middleton Hope Shand Kidd. I was wondering where the Middleton comes from as the Hope comes from his mother maiden name, I believe.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 16:11
    150

    Gracie let’s break it down, Alsgal style: :)

    “the leak is a source close to Kate who continues to tell all to an ill-advised celebrity publication.”

    That sounds like Hello! It also sounds like it’s happened in the past, present and may happen also in the future.

    Tarot cards and tea leaves won’t help us, Gracie — we’ll need gin, a ladder and a shovel.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 16:16
    151

    Alsgal, once again you are cracking me up! Seriously do you know if Camilla and Kate are related?

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 16:21
    152

    Gracie, do you mean in the Biblical sense? I don’t believe the Major died with the last name Kidd unless you know something I don’t about the Major’s orientation but no, I don’t believe they are related except maybe through Edward III but then again, you and I and Shiv are probably thirteenth cousins twice removed if we look at it that way.

    So I’m thinking, no.

  • Shivs
    September 26th, 2008 16:34
    153

    Ha ha! BRW is one happy family! If nothing else though Gracie maybe people will refrain from the ‘Middleclass’ moniker if the name is already established within the family!

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 16:35
    154

    I don’t know if I belive the whole “Leak” story but people really have to respect this lady’s privacy. Why would anyone want to leak out something about Kate? It’s not fair to her at all. If that is true. I know there a mystery that surrounds Kate but it’s very important to respect her privacy. I mean let’s get serious here, this woman could be a future Queen of a great country so she deserves some respect. It’s also a invasion of William’s privacy. I wouldn’t want to cross that guy in a wrong way. Weather the info is good or bad, it’s not our business to know unless they want us to know it.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 16:36
    155

    Alsgal, didn’t mean to add the Kidd at the end thanks. But the Middleton part of his name I find curious, simply because Kate is a Middleton of course and usually their are no coincidences in the RF.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 16:41
    156

    Rman, people are jealous of Kate and would love to be in her position so they leak stories. It’s not right, but it happens anyway. I hope your not talking about my questions into Camilla and Kate being related, cause that is a valid question since her fathers middle name is Middleton and it comes from someone.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 16:44
    157

    I would think at this point that if they were related some noted genealogist named Harvey Walleye-Thickasaplank would have pointed that out. Besides, we already have proof of the Lipton’s of the tea bag fame, so that’s very blue blood on Kate’s father’s side.

    Rman, I have to respectfully disagree as I would think the Kate-is-working article in Hello! wasn’t damaging to anyone, and I can’t see that Kate wouldn’t be a bit relieved to having someone speaking out on her behalf.

  • lisa
    September 26th, 2008 16:56
    158

    random thoughts…

    Neil Sean..knows nothing,different story every week, his “mole” is his childhood stuffed bear.

    The PP stuff is great. I hope Kate gets some much needed PR from it. Given the way the DM reads the IF,maybe they will actually run a positive story this week for a change. One can only hope.

    We need a Kate and William sighting now.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 17:04
    159

    Lisa I agree we do need a Kate and William sighting.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 17:13
    160

    Off topic, but how did I miss William at the surfcamp-algarve.de?

    When I Googled up William Wales under images, there he was back in 2005. Does anyone remember this trip?

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 17:13
    161

    Second page of Images, third line down :)

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 17:36
    162

    Gracie no I’m not talking about your question and Alsgal, I’m just worried about someone getting too much in her privacy, that’s all. Yes It would be nice to see them out somewhere.

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 17:48
    163

    I just want to know what’s going on with them, offically.

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 17:58
    164

    We all do Gracie.

  • alsgal
    September 26th, 2008 18:05
    165

    Not to worry Gracie and Rman, we will see them in the next few weeks out at one of the clubs looking more in love than ever.

    Trust me on this one. :)

  • gracie
    September 26th, 2008 18:06
    166

    Alsgal, your tea leaves better be right!

  • Rman
    September 26th, 2008 19:04
    167

    I was just looking at the DM and Amy Winehouse looks like death. She really need some major help. People who are in that kind of condition, shouldn’t be able to perfom anywhere but rehab. I just something could be done about it.

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 19:18
    168

    Sad, and I think its the Daily Express has a story that Amy spitted on Pippa, referring her to Royalty

  • Me
    September 26th, 2008 19:32
    169

    Daily Star

  • Apryl
    September 27th, 2008 00:36
    170

    I saw that article but you shouldn’t believe everything you read, I mean, it is the tabloids.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 08:29
    171

    I don’t know if AW spat on Pippa or not but it is rather sad to see someone self-destruct. Pathetic, too, as there are enough problems to deal with in life without continually manufacturing more on one’s own.

    If AW did that, well, that was a gross and rude thing to do, and I hope when she gets sober she apologises.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 10:41
    172

    I just saw the About Us feature (silly me) at Party Pieces and it is a wonderful thing what they are doing with sponsoring the children’s parties.
    My goodness, with 200 parties at 200 pounds per pop (I’m counting their wholesale, not retail cost) that is over 40,000. pounds they are giving away!! While I would assume it is all tax deductible, it is still a rather nice thing to do! :) Pragmatically, yes, it’s bringing good PR for Kate but better late than never I say, and if the PR guys at CH suggested this, then all the better, as it shows she and William are still very much “on.” And that is a good thing!

  • Trixie
    September 27th, 2008 10:59
    173

    I am delighted to see that Vicky is indeed the senior buyer and that Kate helped devlopping catalogue and website – looks like I’m rather good in “job guessing” :-D

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 11:10
    174

    Trixie, you are one smart gal and this proves it once again! :)

    I think that is wonderful that they did mention Vicky’s contribution as perhaps someone of weaker character might have tried to take all the credit — so a big “Yea! That’s the way to do it!” to Party Pieces and the whole Cherrpicked Team!

  • Trixie
    September 27th, 2008 11:39
    175

    Right, if I only learned to re-read my posts before I hit the submit button. Oh the typos…. :-o

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 11:46
    176

    Not related to BRW, but Paul Newman has died. He was one of the hottest men ever!

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 11:56
    177

    Well I am glad PP elaborated more about the background of what Kate is apart of. I think that was just added sometime yesterday cause they had the picture of Carol and a little piece about when they started earlier in the morning. I wonder if they do read the blogs. I think if William PR team was envolved, it would not have changed from morning to night like that. Too bad it didn’t happen sooner, but I hope the press will stop with the job issue.

  • Trixie
    September 27th, 2008 12:50
    178

    Knowing the British press, I fear that they will only use this for another wave of negative articles accusing her and her family of dishing in on her fame – though neither PP nor their website or their success has anything remotely do to with the RF but that’s surely what the next “scandal” is gonna be.
    Damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. It’s the same old thing. If they don’t publicly “declare” what Kate is doing everyone will call her Waity Katie and assume she’s not doing anything at all, they cannot talk to the press to put the record straight hence they “use” their own website but as I said I’m sure that will only lead to more criticism. After all the British press never lets logic or reason get in their way to bash anyone so that the argument that children’s products have absolutely nothing to do with the RF or that a link to them won’t help you sell such products won’t play a role at all.

  • B
    September 27th, 2008 12:55
    179

    I’m torned between what I think of that About Us part.

    Whilst it is great that we know that what Kate is doing and that she is actually doing something (or she says she is). It just reeks of PR! The whole style IMO says “We need to stop the criticism now!” and the fact that 2/3s of it is about Kate just…well…it just emphasises the PR ideas behind it.

    So you see I’m torn and rather confused now. Maybe I’m just hungry. I’ll be back in a bit to discuss it with you all but right now I’m going to tuck into my fish pie.

    Talk to you soon.

  • Rman
    September 27th, 2008 13:15
    180

    B, it may be that they are trying new things that PP and it’s part PR. We have been saying for awhile that some PR move need to kick in so the media can know what Kate is doing. As we can see it’s being done and that’s great. The media don’t like to hear what you are doing but they want to see and they need to see. I think it’s great that Kate is part of the team at PP and they seem to be kicking things up a notch. Go PP!!!!

  • Rman
    September 27th, 2008 13:29
    181

    But I don’t think it’s all a bunch of PR but they are putting more spunk into PP. I really like The Cherrypicked idea.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 15:13
    182

    Anything Kate does at this point will be accused as PR, but that’s what needs to be done to change peoples perceptions. Sure the first thing she does will be based on trying to gain better image, but if she continues to do more charity and follows up with it, then it will look like a change in her thus more genuine and not be seen as a calculated PR move. Now is where the job truly begins IMO. Saying and doing are two different things and Kate will be closely watched to make sure she does what she says she does especially with charities. I also think that is why Pippa is attending these charity balls as well. It gives a better impression of the Midds and it does some good for others too.

  • B
    September 27th, 2008 15:53
    183

    I never thought that the Cherrypicked team was PR and I still don’t. However, that text drops Kate’s name in several times and the phrase “Kate was the inspiration” just does not sound genuine. Who writes that sort of thing unless they want and need that person to get a lot of credit? As one person put it on another site it sounds a bit “show off” like.

    By working and having that photo the sign that she was not sitting on her backside was subtle but effective, this makes it sound like they have something to prove and need to prove it. IMO it is over done, where there is so much that it no longer looks genuine but done for PR reasons. They should have left it with the photo IMO, that was far more effective.

  • Rman
    September 27th, 2008 16:04
    184

    What text are you talking about B?

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 16:06
    185

    Not bad at all, after all the crap that family has received.

    Yes, Gracie continuity is very important

  • B
    September 27th, 2008 16:09
    186

    I meant the text in the About Us section. Sorry I thought that was obvious as we were discussing it, sorry for the confusion. :)

    To me it seems that it is over done. yes continuing is important though.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 16:22
    187

    PP web page used to only consist of one paragraph w/carole name at the bottom. So to recently add Kate’s name and photo they are hoping will help with the negative press and it was all done very quickly. Like the photo of them for CP was not prominent on the first page early yesterday and I think the “About Us” section was elaborated on yesterday too. Correct me if I am wrong, but their were several of us blogging yesterday and checking PP web site in between and they changed it around w/in hours. So that lead me to think they are reading the blogs, because we were talking about that subject when it changed. I hope for Kate that it does what she wants it to do. It all could just be a coincidence though!

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 16:26
    188

    To make a deal with a charity, to make a deal with a surf school, to make a deal with photography for kids, to buy all that stuff, to catalogue and carry out new products for a site.

    I’m with the family on this one, and I wish them well, and I do hope they keep up with their business and continuity with the PR for Kate.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 16:33
    189

    DM got a piece on Kate doing charity with Starlight Foundation. It all sounds good until the end when they mention Kate does not talk to her Uni friends anymore. They always have to get the negative in.

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 16:51
    190

    Thanks Gracie, Jules has been talking, this is the 2nd time he does. Then he finalizes with the “I don’t want to sound like sour grapes”.

    He used to spend time at Highgrove, so PW also dropped him. (The first time he spoke, he said that) Move on.

  • lisa
    September 27th, 2008 16:56
    191

    Good for the Middletons for fighting back. I figured the DM would run the article this week. Hopefully Kate’s PR will now turn a corner. The website and the whole concept is well done and not over the top. I am familiar with Emma Samms and the Make a wish foundation. She has been doing it for many years. It’s a great charity and perfect for Kate to become involved with.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 16:58
    192

    Me, I don’t get the point of even printing it, you know? If the truth be know Jules got dropped because he has a big mouth and I am assuming Kate other friends might have got dropped for the same reason. The closer Kate gets to the throne the smaller her circle of friends will be. I don’t talk to all my old friends from school, you out grow each other, life happens and you have nothing in common. He wants to sing at the wedding I am guessing?

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 17:02
    193

    Sounds like the DM have it out for the RF this weekend. Queen wants a new jet, Koo-Stark homeless and Kate doesn’t talk to old friends!

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 17:03
    194

    In his first talk he was broke and living in a rented room, this part comes in the end of the article and it was a quote – word from the journalist, he must have been really pist off – it was in the “press display” and never made it to the tabs. Apparently he didn’t sign the green light for publishing the story when he read the last part.

    But the entire article was read by many posters before it was scrapped due to no legal publishing in the DM.

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 17:04
    195

    In other words, it was copied and pasted from the press display to a royal site, but never made it to the DM site.

  • Rman
    September 27th, 2008 17:19
    196

    Oh I have no doubt that they read the blogs, even this one.

  • B
    September 27th, 2008 17:21
    197

    To clarify, the Make a Wish foundation and the Starlight Foundation are two separate organizations although with the same mission in mind.

    I couldn’t decide whether the Daily Mail article was positive or negative as it says she is doing charity but implies that she is only doing it to get rid of her nickname which of course makes it mercenary.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 17:22
    198

    Well, all I can say is that it’s good that Kate at least is not too busy to keep in touch with William’s friends like Holly, Pelly and Thomas Whatshismname as she will certainly need them in the future.

    The DM article did sound rather cynical IMO, and I think it’s a shame that many will assume that Kate became involved in June w/ Starlight solely due to wanting to turn her bad PR around. I’m sure sure people will ask why did it take 3 years for Kate to become “touched” by a charity, but I am not one of them. Pity, that many will be skeptical as they (or specifically, her parents, I guess) are giving Starlight a lot of money. Yes, B, with all due respect I know it’s all tax deductible :) but still, if I was a kid with my head in the toilet vomiting I know a party bag would certainly light up my day. They might even be able to take the goodies out, and use it as a sick bag, so after the fun, it will be useful as well.

    I’m still wondering whether Mrs. Middleton is behind this new publicly charitable Kate or whether it’s Clarence House. Is it in preparation for something (a wedding) or a bit of a rebuttal of sorts? Can’t tell at the moment, although knowing William, he doesn’t care what people say about Kate, as he knows how fickle the press can be from watching his Dad w/ his once mocked second wife.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 17:30
    199

    Alsgal, you are a funny lady! I know I read more into things than I should, but DM now has story of the designer of Diana’s wedding dress and how she is going to loose her business. Hint, hint? Maybe Kate will use her to design a dress if they EVER marry since CH is taking sketches already according to Mandrake anyway. I hope Andrew helps out Koo sense he is the godfather of her child after all. Perhaps that is why she is going public with this info?

  • B
    September 27th, 2008 17:32
    200

    Oh yes, alsgal what the company is doing is great. I never said that it wasn’t and I never said that a sick child would not appreciate a small gift. I was merely questioning what the article suggested, I could not work out whether or not it was negative.

    I know you say it is important that Kate has friends like Holly etc. but IF and this is just IF they broke up, who do you think those friends would side with? I know we heard last year about Holly offering her island to Kate but we didn’t have any real proof that the offer was made. In fact I don’t recall seeing Kate with any of William’s close friends until they were back together. IMO I think it is important that she has her own friends. So she is able to have a life outside the chaos of the media and royalty, friends who are able to remind her of being a normal private citizen- providing that they are trust worthy though of course.

    Gracie, I’m resisting all tempation at the moment to think about the wedding until an announcement has been made otherwise I could go crazy. Lol. :) I do sometimes catch myself wondering though who the designer will be.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 17:44
    201

    B, I too have often wondered if Williams friends would stick by her if they broke. But like most divorces, people take sides and I tend to think Williams friends will stay with him. That’s why I am not sure I really believe they ended it in July ‘07 because Kate was always accompanied with one of William’s friends when she went clubbing. She seems to be hanging with her friends more lately, so maybe Ked was right on some things. Maybe Kate is trying to establish a life outside of William and his friends or she is doing what the tabs have been saying all along, that the Queen wanted her to get a job before engagement. It’s good that they are making it know that she works at PP, but I can’t see why PP would make her so prominent, just for her to have to leave and marry William. So maybe this is the way out- to say they were to busy for each other.

  • lisa
    September 27th, 2008 17:51
    202

    Here is an article from Mandrake some of you might enjoy! :)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/3094366/Mandrake-Kate-Middleton-auditions-police-protection-officers.html

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 17:54
    203

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/3094366/Mandrake-Kate-Middleton-auditions-police-protection-officers.html

    This will bring speculation.

    Having a protection officer is a very close relationship and it is vital to get it right,” says a security source familiar with the situation at Clarence House.

    “The officer is the person with whom you can end up spending most time and it can be a nightmare if it is someone you can’t get along with.”

    William and his father have agreed to pay for as much protection as is felt necessary for the 26-year-old St Andrews graduate.

    Since she left the Scottish university in 2005 she has been pursued by paparazzi and there have been a number of potentially dangerous incidents.

    Last year, the lawyers that she shares with the Prince threatened unprecedented legal action to try to protect her privacy from photographers. Harbottle and Lewis warned that they would seek redress under the Human Rights Act to spare her from harassment.

    Comparisons have been made between her treatment and that of the young Lady Diana Spencer, who was followed daily by cameramen from the moment the courtship of Prince Charles became public.

  • lisa
    September 27th, 2008 17:56
    204

    Maybe this is why that officer was with her at the wedding. It makes sense.

  • Me
    September 27th, 2008 17:57
    205

    Although true or not, I agree she should have one. Too many loons out there.

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 19:28
    206

    I agree this will bring alot of speculation as last weeks Mandrake discussed wedding design being drawn up. Maybe I am wrong, but Mandrake/Telegraph are more conservative than Sun/DM and I tend to believe them over others. But they make a point to say that Charles/William will pay for it so that means no engagement or the RF would pay? Right? Maybe the pieces are starting to come together after all.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 19:40
    207

    B, Gracie, although I’d like to think that people like Holly and Pelly would remain friendly with Kate I can’t help but remember what happened to Diana when she and Charles were splitting up, and I think what B said is usually true about people taking sides, so I’ll bet it would happen here.

    But, I don’t think that will be happening any time soon as it appears Kate is now getting protection if one believes Mandrake. Why now, as she doesn’t seem to be photographed as often as last year? Maybe that means a Big Announcement is coming? And that can only mean one thing, that they will be married, and it’s not a question of “if” but “when.” :)

    So, it now looks like we’re in for a wedding next year or an engagement in 18 months. This will provide plenty of time for Kate’s image to be remade in the press, as many have speculated would need to happen first.

    Where is Mark Bolland when one needs him?

  • gracie
    September 27th, 2008 19:56
    208

    Kate looked to have protection at Disco. There were two men who looked the part both wearing suit jackets and dress trousers like most of the royal security wear. So who knows? But the proof is in the pudding, so it does not mean alot unless there is a ring on Kate’s finger.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 20:09
    209

    I thought those were Roller Disco bouncers? Gracie, maybe it’s just me but the last time I went to a roller disco it ended none too pretty, and I’ll just leave it at that.

    My feeling is, I’ll bet Kate already has a ring and it’s well hidden in one of those PP Princess music boxes up in Kate’s room :) or in her mother’s safe deposit box at Bucklebury Savings and Loan.

  • lisa
    September 27th, 2008 20:19
    210

    What a difference a week makes,huh? I do believe Kate had protection exiting that disco and they were from Williams people. alsgal,I also think some of them were the bouncers you speak of as well. There were at least four people assisting her exit of that disco.

    I look forward to the coming week.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 20:36
    211

    Lisa, so very true!

    PW learned from the Sandhurst graduation that he can’t invite his SO without it causing speculation, so my guess is, the Garter appearance was almost a papal smoke signal of sorts saying, “Yep, she’s The One.”

    In hindsight, June also apparently brought Kate’s Starlite involvement, so I think at that point something had been agreed upon. A date, a ring, a caterer.

    I do believe William is very much his father’s son, so my guess is, the more the press have turned on Kate, the more protective he’s grown towards his sweetie.

    My only hope now is that these two get to poppin’ out some Willettes or Katierinas so we don’t end up w/ a JFK, Jr. “oops my leg!” kind of scenario. :(

  • Kyle
    September 27th, 2008 21:13
    212

    Guess I should learn karate to defend myself against the loons with my invisible money. :P

  • Rman
    September 27th, 2008 22:33
    213

    Well, I’m just glad to see Kate doing so well at PP and yes she does need the protection and it’s time for things to move along. It looks like William & Kate is taking the right steps towards that great day.

  • alsgal
    September 27th, 2008 22:46
    214

    Rman, that Mandrake column in the DT is usually correct so I’m taking this as an engagement announcement. :) :) :)

    Champers and Twizzlers on the house! :)

  • Rman
    September 28th, 2008 00:17
    215

    Alsgal, I think we are getting close to that. They deserve happiness.

  • bluefire
    September 28th, 2008 02:12
    216

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1063278/Kate-joins-Dynastys-Fallon-charity-work.html

    update

  • B
    September 28th, 2008 02:46
    217

    I believe that she would get some sort of protection when she is William; like an extension of his. But until I see her with a bodyguard (where there is not the possibility of him being a bouncer or William’s bodyguard) I will remain critical. We have heard all these stories before so many times and have been disappointed each time. What’s the saying? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I won’t allow myself to be fooled a second time so I will not believe it until I have proof.

    (N.B: Not saying it is not real just questionning the fact that we have heard this a lot before.)

  • Trixie
    September 28th, 2008 03:30
    218

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1063278/Kate-joins-Dynastys-Fallon-charity-work.html

    I hope I don’t double post this now but the DM picked up the charity story from the PP site. It’s not as bad as I have feared. But of course they had to add a tidbit about her neglecting her St. Andrews friends in the end.

    “Bitterly stung by suggestions she is work-shy, Prince William’s girlfriend Kate Middleton has created a new ‘job’ for herself – working on a charity project with a star from Dynasty.

    The 26-year-old has joined forces with Emma Samms, who played Fallon Carrington Colby in the glitzy Eighties soap opera, to help 10,000 sick and dying children enjoy a memorable Christmas party.

    She has forged a link between her parents’ gift company Party Pieces and the Starlight children’s foundation, founded by Samms, to provide goodie bags, entertainment and decorations for 200 events to be held in hospitals across Britain this December.”

    “As Kate Middleton struggles to improve her work reputation, she has unexpectedly come under fire from another quarter – old university pals who accuse her of ‘turning her back’ on them.

    Jules Knight, who studied art history alongside Kate at St Andrews University and lived next door to Prince William, claims several people are ‘upset’ the 26-year-old appears to have ‘made a conscious decision’ not to stay in touch.”

  • H
    September 28th, 2008 03:54
    219

    The Sunday mail seems to be going bananas with Royal Stories today. There is also another one saying that Charles is going to be having 2 60th birthday parties – a formal one (that we have heard about being organised by the Queen) & a smaller, more informal one being organised by Camilla. The article says …

    Camilla is making the Highgrove party very much her own. ‘She has invited Princes William and Harry and Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy, as well as her children, Tom and Laura. There will be 75 guests for a five-course dinner with dancing. ‘Other guests will include writer and actress Meera Syal, Stephen Fry, Edward and Sophie, Andrew – but not Fergie – and close friends Hugh and Emilie van Cutsem.’

    I can’t believe that Kate would have been invited if they had split or were about to split. Though it is odd that all of Charles’s siblings have been invited except for Anne??

  • alsgal
    September 28th, 2008 09:36
    220

    I don’t get the feeling Anne and Camilla think too highly of each other. They are certainly cut from different cloth.

    Anne would have been a wonderful Queen.

  • Me
    September 28th, 2008 09:45
    221

    Didn’t one exchange ex husbands ???

  • alsgal
    September 28th, 2008 10:08
    222

    Me, I’ve just had my breakfast and it’s a bit early to think of sloppy seconds! :)

    but even in that incestuous little social circle, that surely is the reason.

  • gracie
    September 28th, 2008 12:35
    223

    I would think Anne would be invited as they all dip from the same social pool and still continue to have friendships. I don’t know how they do it, but I guess it’s a royal thing. They just put on a brave face and smile to get through it all.

  • Me
    September 28th, 2008 12:51
    224

    Its normal in that social pool to engage in

  • gracie
    September 28th, 2008 12:57
    225

    I wonder if Camilla will ask Dita von Tease to perform? I bet Charles would like it!

  • gracie
    September 28th, 2008 13:09
    226

    Just joking about the above. Anyway, on PP “gift experience” it looks to be sponsored by Virgin. So I assume the Branson have contributed? If you click on the cowboy experience and then press details, it looks like a photo of Kate with a horse.

  • Me
    September 28th, 2008 13:27
    227

    Yes

  • Me
    September 28th, 2008 13:45
    228

    in the Virgin,no on the cowgirl

  • B
    September 28th, 2008 13:47
    229

    The girl next to the horse is blonde and has a different bone structure. That is not Kate.

    http://tinyurl.com/4lmeby

  • Trixie
    September 28th, 2008 14:25
    230

    I don’t think that’s Kate either. Her hair is far too straight and light for it to be Kate… probably just some random model…