Mandrake hears that Kate Middleton is currently “trying out” a series of police protection officers to find the one with whom she feels most comfortable.
“Having a protection officer is a very close relationship and it is vital to get it right,” says a security source familiar with the situation at Clarence House.
“The officer is the person with whom you can end up spending most time and it can be a nightmare if it is someone you can’t get along with.”
William and his father have agreed to pay for as much protection as is felt necessary for the 26-year-old St Andrews graduate.
Since she left the Scottish university in 2005 she has been pursued by paparazzi and there have been a number of potentially dangerous incidents.
Last year, the lawyers that she shares with the Prince threatened unprecedented legal action to try to protect her privacy from photographers. Harbottle and Lewis warned that they would seek redress under the Human Rights Act to spare her from harassment.
Comparisons have been made between her treatment and that of the young Lady Diana Spencer, who was followed daily by cameramen from the moment the courtship of Prince Charles became public. (via The Telegraph)
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Carole Middleton, the mother of Kate Middleton, is such a genius mother who would do everything and anything just to make sure that Kate will have a future with Prince William.
It has been so many months since Kate has been followed by the media. The non stop laziness, partying, shopping, etcetera of Waitie-Katie has made her from a “FAVORED FUTURE QUEEN OF ENGLAND” to a “UNFAVORED LAZY, WAITY KATIE.” The nickname of “Waity-Katie” has not only been a name called by the public but also the Queen itself.
So why am I talking about Carole Middleton, the genius social engineer?
Okay…so first of all…either if it has been proven or not…there was a gossip that Carole Middleton made sure that her daughter will cross the path of Prince William. So when P. William announced his choice of university, there was a gossip that Carole did everything that she can do just to make sure that her daughter will be set up with the future of P. William.
Also when you think about it, Kate and William lived together during their university days and early relationship stage. Are you even thinking what does it mean when boyfriend and girlfriend cohabits together? Please…let us not try to be so innocent about it when a boyfriend and girlfriend slept together in one roof. So that means that Kate is not virgin anymore. Yes… Kate and P. William for sure did it. After all, the Mustique intimate pictures were stolen and were stopped to be published.
Do you even ask yourself if Carole M. does even teach her daughter, Kate, not to give it away her purity? Because if Carole teaches her daughter, Kate, how to be a “lady-like” and not be a “whore-like”… then for sure we have a real PROPER LADY-LIKE future queen who does not have any saucy, intimate pictures. I wonder how Kate gives William a pleasure? Anyways, we expect that Carole is in favour about Kate and William sleeping together just to make sure that Kate will get her prince someday. Who knows, maybe P. William will announce his engagement because Kate is pregnant? Of course, Carole would be so delightful about this.
Okay…so why does it matter if Kate is virgin or not? Princess Diana was a virgin when she got married with her prince. Princess D was pure when she presented herself to her husband. She was young and innocent.
So where is WAITY-KAITEY lately? The last news that we heard from about her is when she fell off showing her crotch.
According to the Party Pieces, owned by Carole M., website:
“Party Pieces launched First Birthdays at the beginning of the year with Kate managing the project and producing this year’s catalogues and website.”
“Kate has been the inspiration behind our involvement with Starlight Children’s Foundation, a UK charity that helps brighten the lives of seriously and terminally ill children by granting their wishes and providing hospital entertainment.”
(Drum rolls please)
Carole M., the genius mother of Kate, has confirmed that her daughter, Kate, is working in the company, AND (take note the AND) is the inspiration of a charity event.
Can you figure it out what is going on?
Confirming that she is working and helping in the charity means “saving the reputation” of Kate just to make sure that the daughter is still in good run to be the future queen of England.
Confirming that Kate is working will shut up the England and hopefully remove her nickname “WAITY-KATIE.”
Confirming that Kate is in the charity will make the Queen happy, and win the hearts of the people.
It is a smart move by Carole hoping that people will fall onto this.
Anyways, I don’t know if I should think that Kate is such a fake!!!
Who knows, Kate is just working (if ever she is working) for her parent’s company just to shut up the people and lose her nickname “WAITY –KATIE”
Who knows, Kate is just doing the charity just to please the QUEEN. I am pretty sure that the donation is just a show-off. If Kate is not going out with the future king, do you think Carole M. will donate her money?
Who knows if this is just a set-up by Carole and Kate just to make sure that someday the prince will come.
OHH BTW, the Middleton(Carole, Kate and Pippa) reminds me of Cinderella’s stepmother and two step sisters. The three of them are trying so hard just to make sure that they attend the finest ballroom party of famous OLD MONEY just to make sure they will catch a BIG FISH in the ocean. Unfortunately, the Prince Charming fell in love with one of the sisters…and not CINDERELLA (like Princess Diana).
PS: We cannot really call Kate as Cinderella because she is a spoiled brat unlike Diana who was working 2 jobs before she married her Prince.
Wow! You’ve got it all worked out haven’t you…
P.S.
“Carole M., the genius mother of Kate, has confirmed that her daughter, Kate, is working in the company, AND (take note the AND) is the inspiration of a charity event.”
She said Kate was the inspiration for Party Pieces involvement in the charity, not that Kate was the inspiration for the charity event – there’s a difference…
D
Kate has won this reputation because we havent seen her working but in reality no one knows what she does in private. Lets remember that KM is still a mystery to all british people.
I dont understand why the media keeps pretending that KM’s and PW’s relationship is going well and that they will announce their engagement when apparently PW will go to the army for 3 more years and leave KM just hanging around and waiting again. If their relationship was going well and if PW had plans to marry KM, he wouldnt do what he’s doing to her. If this article is true, the only explanation that I can find to this is that they are secretly engaged. If they are not secretly engaged, then probably they already broke up and just have a friend relationship. I can’t find anyother explanation to this because it sound very unrealistic to me that PW will leave KM just hanging around after all these years that they have already been dating.
*yahwn*
crawl back to the whole you came from…
At least try to get your basics straight before you get creative with your imagination….
I know many adore Diana but if there ever was a social climbing family it’s the Spencers. They may have been aristocrats already but they desperately wanted to be Royalty. First they tried to sell their older daughter Sarah to Charles (Diana herself tried to play matchmaker) and when she messed up it was “virginal” Di’s turn. She married a man 12 years her senior and not very attractive whom she didn’t even know just to become a Princess. And when she had doubt before the wedding her family pushed her into it. And you have the nerve to accuse the Middleton’s of social climbing.
Give me break! At least Kate has the advantage to know William and has done so for 5 years now. She even lived with him. She’s not marrying a “Prince” and living in fairy tale lalaland, she’s dating her long term boyfriend.
ROTFL The Queen calls her Waity Katie, right? Where did you hear that in your dreams? *Rotfl*
Everything is of course just one big PR campaign by the Middleton’s to force William to marry Kate. First they pay the press to ruin her reputation and write all sorts of unfounded allegations and then they start a PR campaign to better her image. :rollseyes:
Sonia, William goign to the RAf does NOT mean that he cannot marry Kate. Where does that idea come from? Since when can RAF personell not be married and since when are people obliged to marry at a certain age?
Seriously I do not understand all the fuss that is always made about William and Kate. Why should they be the only people on this planet not allowed to lead their relationship as they see fit? Why do they have to cater to the wishes of the public? If they are happy in a weekend relationship with Kate working for her parents and William with the RAF, that’s THEIR PREROGATVE! It is THEIR LIFE!
William isn’t “doing” anything to Kate. The stupid press and people constantly speculating about the state of their relationship are. Without the endless expectations of an “upcoming” enagement they would be left alone to lead their lives as they wish just like Harry and Chelsy are. Noone questions their love for each other just because they chose to spend 9 months of the year away from each other and only meet for the odd weekend or holiday. No they are being “independent” … ridiculous!
Well that was an…interesting read D. Personally I do not really like to think of Kate and William sleeping together. It is unlikely that Kate was a virgin before she dated William (after there was Willem Marx in secondary school and she dated Fergus Boyd for a year), but IMO it doesn’t matter at all. This is the 21st century we should just be glad that we have never heard of her having a one night stand. It is considered normal these days to have a physical relationship with your partner. So can we leave it at that please?
Sonia: Good post!
Steven (BRW): I felt it strange that they said that Kate was the inspiration. It made it sound like they were trying to prove something. After all, my partner’s company supports several charities, one of which I asked him to support (cancer research-my best friend died of cancer when I was 14), but normally people do not mention the person who inspired them to do it. In fact it should not be the person who inspired them to support it but rather the work itself.
Usually people just write something like: “Party Pieces (or whatever the name is) is dedicated to supporting the work of Starlight (or other name of charity) by doing X, Y and Z. Starlight is an excellent charity who….. etc”. It is very very very very very very very unusual for the director/creator to say that an employee was the inspiration unless of course that employee benefited from the charity.
I just felt that the “About Us” section should have been renamed to the “About Kate working here” section. There were too many references to her name compared with any of the other employees and Mr Middleton was not even mentioned nor was James and his cake kit scheme.
Hi B,
I also felt a little awkward reading that sentence, for the reasons you outlined. I’m just putting it down to a proud mum writing it…
I don’t think it was written in such a way to blatantly score Kate more good press.
For others reading this discussion – here’s the link to Party Pieces About page;
http://www.partypieces.co.uk/cm/aboutus.htm
And, no, I’m not getting any sort of kick-back for linking to Party Pieces…
Yes, it just did not seem right.
However, I do think that was more than just a proud mum as it was not very subtle but rather obvious in the approach. It made it look like PR and IMO lowered the value of Kate’s actions in supporting Starlight. I know people have said that it is great that it is PR as she needs to improve her repuation but when PW was doing his work in Monserrat (sp?) everybody said that was PR and condemned him. Now, I’m not saying we should get at Kate I’m just one for complete equality.
IMO the picture spoke more than those words did and the words have devalued the work that she did do.
JMO
I suppose in hindsight it would have been better for them just to have said something like “Party Pieces supports the following charities…”
Unfortunately the anti-Kate’s will have a field day over this one. I see they’re already sharpening the knives over at the other forums…
It doesn’t matter what Kate does or how positive it is, the haters will always find fault. Thankfully they do not add up to more then a handful of folks with nothing else to occupy their time. I think the general public will embrace Kate Middleton when her time comes and it looks like it may be coming!
This weekend sure turned the tides PR-wise for her.
Now can we pleeeease get that ring?:)
I agree BRW, they should have worded it differently.
Lisa: I haven’t seen a change this weekend at all and I thought I had read all the article.
Let’s not rush them to marry, we know what happened last time.It will come when it comes and that will be when they are ready.
B,I am willing to cut the Middletons some slack here. They have been mercilessly attacked in the press from every angle and have stood by and taken it on the chin. A bit of not so subtle wording is fair enough for me.
As for William and Kate,there is nothing we can do to rush them or change the timing of their plans. We can only hope.
I am personally encouraged by the report in the Telegraph as I have looked back on the articles they have printed and they all seem credible. If Kate is being given a security detail, it doesn’t matter who is paying for it, there are plans in place. You can bet on that.
As I have said anything Kate does at this moment looks like she’s trying to fix her image and she is! What else is she suppose to do? Kate is doing what the public has been complaining about and she still gets nasty comments made about her. It will take several charity events to make her look like she is genuine in doing this, but children are benefiting from PP work and that is what is important. If the Starlight Charity donation was suggested by Kate, then why not give her credit for it?
Wow! so lucky for Catherine of her of course, cause wills and his dad pay for protection he..he..
I am glad to hear Chelsy is taking her studies seriously and is not going clubbing anymore. I don’t think she needs to worry about clubbing as much as the private party pictures that leak on blogs! I guess that situation has not been nipped in the bud yet. I can’t imagine why it hasn’t though unless Chelsy is the one who continues to put photos on Facebook. IMO.
Gracie: I was glad as well to see Chelsy ensuring that her private life is kept private. However, most uni students do go out and party and she is only 22 so I think it is a shame that she feels she cannot go out and partying occasionally.
Lisa: the issue I have is that all the people within the RF have been attacked a lot from time to time. I think it happens in cycles almost. Kate has only suffered negative press for about 4 months. Harry has had it for years and so has Chelsy. The entire RF has never so obviously tried to say “Told you so”, or not in the past few years at least (I only really know the RF in the past few years but it is the modern view that we are concerned with so that shouldn’t be a problem). The RF has never made a public statement defending themselves and I see the About Us section as a PR exercise and not a very subtle one. The photo was good. In fact it was great, because it was so subtle. The information by Carole is not.
In the RF negative press must be expected as everyone will get it no matter what they do. If Kate or her family can’t deal with it…well what does that tell you?
I’d also just like to repeat what I said somewhere else (may have been above). William got lots of criticism over the past 6 months to a year and the work in Monserrat was called by everyone or nearly everyone here as a PR exercise. Nobody cut him any slack at all and very few people do. Why is Kate the exception?
Kate will have to start somewhere and I expected her start to do charity work etc. to be called a PR stunt. She’ll have to remain consistant about it and not give in to the temptation to be too public with her efforts and she will be fine. It may take some time till people “get” her involvement especially when the press is as biased as they are right now but then she’ll eventually manage to correct the wrong impression some may have of her.
Look at Harry two years ago he was seen as useless party playboy and look at him now. His charitable efforts in Lesotho and his deployment to Afghanistan made people realise the warm, caring person behind all the bad press. Or Chelsy first seen as dumb, blond party bimbo she is now widely regaded as intelligent, outgoing, ambitious young woman. I think Kate has the chance to make a similar “image u- turn”. Such changes do not come overnight however, they take time and effort. She has made a good start now she has to get “through” with it despite of the critics. The announcmeent on the PP site may have been a bit clumsy but at least th word got out there that she is involved with starlight, now she haas to deliver.
Trixie,
I’m sorry but William isn’t some normal guy who can lead his life whatever way he wants. Just forget about the media and the public. I guess he could try but the monarchy wouldn’t survive very long with him as king if he acted like that. That’s why Charles had to mount a pr campaign for Camilla before he even thought about marrying her. He knew if any potential wife of his was unpopular with the British public it would be very damaging for him and the monarchy. And of course if Kate is fine with a weekend relationship that is definitely her business. But in my opinion that would make her foolish. William can drop her at any time he feels like it. Cut her off from his friends and social circle, then have his people trash her in the press to save his reputation. If it could happen to Diana and Fergie then a mere girlfriend doesn’t stand a chance.
D, your comment so long he..he..is like to write a letter he..he….my comment of catherine news, sometimes she’s a lucky girls cause her candidate father-in-law and her lover pay protection for her but sometimes she’s unlucky girl too, why? cause all media and paparazi or all people hate her for all what she’s done, but that’s are a risk for her cause have relationship with Prince of britain, so more stable okay
PS: Catherine you make me envy but i’m glad your lover yet to propose you cause i’m not ready to see you and Wills to rise altar, and i hope your mom doesn’t push you for quick to become Princess of wales generation of course, remember to become candidate Queen your family must not to make use for they reputation
Trixie & Nikki, I’ve been saying for a longtime that Kate is ready for what’s coming her way and she knows that she got to get out there and let people know her better. She got to get the public experience under her belt and that’s what she’s about to do. Yes William could drop her but he wouldn’t trash her nor would he allow his friends to trash her, he’s just not like that. Charles never really let anyone trash Diana but they did it because they thought that was being loyal to him. Diana never let anyone trash Charles, infact when people did in her presence she got very upset. I’m just glad to see William & Kate going in the right direction. People can talk about them badly but they always let it be known who rules the show.
If Kate & William’s romance is over, why the need for protection a protection officer for her — partially financed by her EX-lover?
LOL All you Kate haters are flailing. The rest of us are laughing AT YOU.
I also think that they should have worded party pieces differently. It does seem like they are trying to show that KM is doing something (probably to fix her image), but I think when you do something good for someone else, you dont show it off. If you show it off, then it means that you are bragging about it which doesnt look good. There are times when you have to let other people know what you are doing in order to get more sponsors, supporters, etc, but it doesnt seem that the middletons are showing what KM is doing to get more sponshorship. It does seem that they are just showing off what she is doing to fix her image because as mentioned before by other commenters, when a business advertises something it is doing, it talks in general, it never talks about specific employees, as party pieces is doing with kate.
I do like the idea that the middletons are doing something good, but I dont like it that they are bragging in their website what they do just for their own benefit.
Range Rover UK bragged about Lesotho, all known celebrity, VIP people are publicised. The Middleton family have used their own site to help their daughter. I find it humble, bragging would have been to make a talk all to the major tabs, which per now the “detail” appears in the DM, and by B’s standard in which I partially agree, anyone journalist may carry out a research and write the articles (Chelsy article). In this case, they entered the PP site, called Starlight, found out about Emma’s foundation, and Jules had to talk, poor soul.
After all like it or not, KM is not any random Jane dating Joe in the corner where volunteering or charity organizer may she be involved and not receive or do any notice.
And good for the publicity, I hope people click in the donation link in PP.
Thanks Me.
I think sonia’s post is very good.
HI ALL! SONIA AGREE WITH YOUR WORDS.
GUEST I REMEMBER BREACK OF 2007 AND IF WILLIAM FINISHED YOUR RELATIONSHIP HE HAVE THAT PAY A POLICE PROTECTION FOR THAT NOT HAPPEN OPPRESSION OF 2007. BY THIS KATE NEED OF PROTECTION.
THE SILENCE OF KATE AND WILLIAM SPEAK MORE ELEVATED OF THE THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING..
ALL YOU SPEAK ME SOMETHING…
KISS FOR ALL.
“I dont understand why the media keeps pretending that KM’s and PW’s relationship is going well…..
If they are not secretly engaged, then probably they already broke up and just have a friend relationship. I can’t find anyother explanation to this because it sound very unrealistic to me that PW will leave KM just hanging around after all these years that they have already been dating.”
Harry and Chelsy are also broken up, they where seen way such a long time ago and the press still pretends
Okay, lets get it out in the open. Many people don’t like William & Kate together but that’s tough. People need to start respecting his private life. He’s loves the woman so deal with it. People need to stop putting them down. We respect everyone’s opinions but face that facts that William & Kate are together and that’s the way it is. Many of them are young bloggers but there are hundreds of Britain’s that love seeing them together and is always wishing them well. And awaiting for that big announcement and I am joining them.
D, I found what you said quite intriguing and agree with some of it.
The mom seems to have taken the reins again of Kate’s pr, especially after Kate’s skating fall , showing her crotch. She does not want to lose the Big Fish.
I am afraid all of this may be too late for Kate.
Her reputation is not great at the moment.
Stay at your favorite site and don’t repeat your obnoxious posts here. You assume to see what you saw, the truth is there is no such shot.
So please stop pretending that it is what you saw, when even all the controlers, and you know what I mean say its product of your imagination, you’d wish.
Rman, I’m with you buddy.
It seems like Kate is trying hard to get William to notice her more-you can kind of tell by her eyes that something’s up, but it seems like William is drifting away, or isn’t paying attention as much or something, I don’t know.
It is hard to catch a guy’s attention, especially that of a prince, since so many people are around him all the time & want to use him and anyone he knows for their own selfish needs. Especially the press.
Apryl, no offense, but how could you possibly know that?
You can tell alot by someone eyes in a photo that took all of about 20seconds to take. NOT!!! Life is to complicated for that.
I think Kate’s got William wrapped around her little pinkie finger and I’m fine with that. William reminds me of his father and PC simply didn’t want a challeging or threatening female around, and William seems to be following this tradition. Kate’s pretty enough, she must be pleasant enough, and she gives him plenty of the old “boogey woogie.” Lots of boys are happy to take that, even if it goes against the feminist ideal of what a relationhip SHOULD be.
So, Kate makes things easy for him and if that’s what he wants, and that’s what she’s happy giving him, then good for them. Sounds quid pro quo, and like they’ve worked things out in a way which suits them. So, that said, now I wish them every happiness in the world.
PW’s had plenty of opportunity to figure out if the Middletons are opportunistic or not, and if he’s still with Kate, then he must not think they are. Maybe he thinks Carole is not pushy or overprotective at all — maybe he wishes he had someone who always had his back, just as Carole has her daughter’s?
Who knows what’s in his heart, but I’m sure it’s not all bad.
It’s his life, and he’s making these decisions out of free will. Let’s accept that. Kate and William seem to be getting what they want or need from each other, so that’s that IMO.
Since we have no real news to discuss..how about something fun? Neil Sean reported a rumor about Kiera Knightly playing Kate is a movie about Her and William. If not Kiera,who would you like to see playing Kate and what actor for William? He will be tough because he is so tall..
Well we know she got him wrapped around her finger. There are women out there that do that to us lol. I was expecting a film to be made, and surprised one hasn’t been made already.
I agree I think that the powers that be are currently trying to fix Kate’s image much like they did with Camilla before her engagement was announced. People do need to start respecting William choice of partner. She deserves and needs protection because I think it is only a matter of time before something goes wrong. And yes if they can change Harry’s and Chelsy’s image then it shouldn’t be too hard to change Kates…
No offense Rman, but you do realize that would be one of the most boring films in the world?
What on earth could make it exciting?
“That sounds like the most boring film in the world. What will it be about? Girl has crush on boy. Boy finally meets girl. Girl and boy start dating and fall in love. Girl become needy and clingy. Boy dumps girl. Girl pretends to look for new apartment to keep boy on his toes. Boy takes girl back. Boy and girl leave uni. Girl wants to get married so does nothing for years. Boy goes out and has fun. Girl and boy break up. Girl and boy get back together. Girl finally gets the hint and gets a job with her parents. Boy delays marriage even more and does more military training.”
That was a quote from another forum (yes I do know the person and have their permission). It’s not negative towards Kate or William at all but it does face up to the fact that their relationship is hardly the most interesting of all as far as movie makers are concerned. Neither has suffered a terminal illness (think Love Story), neither has nearly been killed (any action or crime movie). It’s just a Girl meets Boy with very few complications.
I do respect William for his choice of partner because he loves her then they will be okay together. However, I don’t think she needs protection because let’s face it, when was the last time we saw her in a private capacity? We only get photographed when she goes to public events and they have bouncers outside.
A quote from another forum???? LOLOL
Actually it would be a good film, if the producer had their diaries and what they really do, anecdotes, experiences during their childhood, teen years, SA et all. Not tabloid crap, which have resulted to be 90 percent crap, they only get it right when accompanied by an event or pic, and even like this they exaggerate the story.
It must be bang heading for that poster “clingy” :rolleyes:
Does this remind me of two other boyfriend and girlfriend who are there with their other half.
Who was that one dude in The Prince and Me? He was hot and a blonde. And he played a prince.
Well maybe the movie shouldn’t be made at the moment but waiting after the marriage, then make it. It will make a great film, I think. But I hear Charles is going to have two parties, wow. Which includes his two future daughter-in-laws. It seems like it’s going to be a great celebration.
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Guest: Why is that amusing? Considering I wrote it I find offense in what you have just posted. I did not want to say that as it may arise awkward questions, but I feel insulted by what you have just replied with. Please consider the effect of your posts on other members of this blog. I have walked away once but I would be willing to do it again if I felt that people were being disrespectful about opinions which are not their own.
Apryl: I loved that film as well. He was Luke Mably I believe.
Me: I can’t see how it would be interesting. After all it’s not like anything major has happened. My own relationship history is more movie worthy. What events within their relationship do you think is worthy of a film? A documentry I can understand as there have been several but I can’t think of anything note worthy really.
I hope he has a great birthday. The big 6-0 deserves a couple of parties. I don’t like the complaints about this, I just celebrated my uncle’s birthday (it was his 50th not 60th but its similar) and we had a huge party for him and had lots of fun as well. He lives in America so he had a second over there as well as my grandparents aren’t able to travel. He should celebrate and have fun.
P.S. technically not future daughter in laws. They won’t be that until an engagemnt announcement so we shouldn’t count our chickens before they hatch. (We don’t want to jinx it, do we Rman?
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That’s his name! Thanks. I have that one as well.
I don’t know, including the wedding may be a bit cliched, since the real one will be on television.
Plus, we have the movie, American Wedding already.
B, I don not personally know PW or KM, I am sure they have had many anecdotes, episodes like perhaps you have in your life that may be very interesting.
Well, yes people always have interesting anecdotes. I have plenty and I am positive that you do as well, but whilst they are interesting to us and the people who know us, they aren’t usually interesting to the entire public. Besides, I sincerely doubt that either William or Kate will open up their diaries (if they have one, if they don’t then speaking metaphorically), and tell us about their relationship. I doubt that there are that many people who would be interested other than us royal watchers and even then I would feel as if I was butting in on their private affairs.
I think Kate and William have had a perfectly, normal relationship. Interesting to them and their friends but perhaps not interesting to the general public. Even we don’t necessarily talk about their actual relationship but rather the IFs and BUTs. We never talk about how their first date was probably a meal in a pub or how they might watch the X factor with a pizza on Saturdays. They are the sort of factors that make up the relationship not the “She works for her parents” or “She is doing charity work” and to be honest, knowing that they eat pizza whilst watching X factor is hardly going to be enough to get an Oscar.
I dunno if that makes sense at all, I know what I mean but that’s not much help to you.
Sorry. Maybe someone can explain it better in which case I’ll so say later.
Yeah lets not jiinx it. But the parties sound great. He’s come such a long way and have been through so much. I always think of Charles as a survivor. The media has given him such a hard time, he tragically lost two very important people in his life (Louis Mountbatten & The Princess of Wales) and still manages to go on being a great father and Prince of Wales. It’s just great to see him come this far.
I know what you mean B. I often imagine what they do privately like how they spend their weekends etc. There is so much more to that relationship than official events. But as time goes by and royal historians start writing books about the royal couple and how their own families came along then the public will know more.
That is why I say it would be IF the producer.
A longterm relationship between a future King and a non titled citizen is the stuff dreams are made of movie wise. I am sure like Rman said,once we know more intimate details of the romance, there will be alot more material to work with. Personally the very premise of their relationship, meeting at university, dealing with different backrounds, the pressure of the media etc, is a great start.
:nod head:
:thumbs up:
you got my point.
I think Rman has a valid point. But I am still not convinced. Yes it is a fairy tale type story but a successful movie? I think we shall have to agree to disagree because I can’t see how two people who met at university and feel in love could interest people even if one of those people was a Prince.
So agree to disagree?
I agree Rman he has been through a lot and people still criticize him about Princess Diana and Camilla love triangle. It annoys me when they do as it seems people can’t let go and appreciate that he is a good man.
I agree that it is not the material of overly sappy love stories but it could well make for a good comedy or satire especially if one plays what’s really going on vs. what the press/public is making out of events … I sure would want to see that…
But I guess that’s not the sort of movie Fox was playing at. I cannot imagine Keira Knightly playing in what could be nothing more but a bad TV movie anyways. She’s too “big” (as an actress since there’s really nothing big about Keira herself) for that. I have seen one or two “William” movies already and they were simply horrible. But then since when has that ever stopped a producer.
If I were making the film,I would tell the story from Kate’s perspective beginning on her wedding day(assuming they marry). I would begin the film in her dressing quarters as she gets ready to put the dress on and tell the story as she remembers meeting William right up to the present day,ending with the wedding.
A movie probably won’t made until after William marries, most likely a made for tv movie, as were done with Charles and Diana, just after they married.
I think the Kate’s character role in the film will be that of the girlfriend he left behind, who is sitting in the church pews watching William as he marries a woman who finally won his heart completely and his proposal, not Kate.
With William’s new years of military service, I don’t think he has any intention of marrying anyone, anytime soon, including Kate.
Kate won his heart but I find it very interesting how some bloggers just hate the thought of these two. We see them happy and living their own lives the way they want to. But that’s why I thought it is very important for the public to get to know her better and when that happens, the public will understand more of how William fell in love with her. That’s the path she is heading down now. There so much going on in the world today and it can be very cold and lonely. One of the things that get us through all of this is love and when someone has found that you should be happy for them. I know I am.
I don’t think karenina was saying she hates the idea of them together, in fact I’ve heard very few people say that. However, the announcement about the search and rescue career has made people think that perhaps a wedding is not on the way as soon as we expected. Which I think is an understandable point of view. However, Rman also has a point that they could get married even though PW is in the RAF.
Although, if that was the case would Kate do royal duties? Because I would have thought it would be better for PW’s reputation and for Kate if PW starts before she does, that way she can learn from him (we can’t have the blind leading the blind after all).
I’m very glad that you have found love Rman as I have as well, but we must remember that people do fall in and out of love so often, so easily. We don’t know what they are thinking and whilst we hope that they are happy, they may not be as in love as I am with my partner and you with yours.
B, I have to disagree. William has had public experience and has been preparing for royal duties probably since he could walk and talk. Charles of course has had much more experience at the time he married Diana, but I don’t know that it was all that good. I think it made it that much harder for Charles to share the spotlight with someone else since he had been doing it so long on his own. Princess Mary of Denmark had a lady of the court to who did nothing but accompany PM around for atleast the first two years of her marriage to help her and guide her when needed. I think IF Kate and William the same would happen. PM also had to learn a new language at the same time and she by all accounts has done well. Kate would probably start off doing charity stuff first. Camilla managed it. As far as their relationship is concerned, at this point, we have no clue as to what might happen. I just hope that if William or Kate no longer are happy together, it would be announced and everyone can move on.
Gracie, I hope we see them soon. I have no doubt they are okay since they did spend alot of time together this year. We just haven’t seen them out in awhile.
Whom I haven’t seen out in a long while is Harry and Chelsy, what about the life of Zara and what his name ?
Me, I guess Harry still in Canada and Chelsy at Leeds so that explains them. Zara and Mike I have not seen pictures together in a while. Zara was at some textile event and appeared to be alone or atleast no pics of her w/anyone. Usually they were always seen together.
I know Harry is in Canada and Chelsy is in Leeds, what I meant to say is that I haven’t seen them for much a longer time back then PW/KM (Austria). Same goes to Zara and Mike, thank you for reminding me his name.
Me, well your guess is as good mine.
Kate doing royal duties as a new bride while William learns to fly sounds like a great combo to me. William could spend the time learning to do something he loves while the royal duties he would have been doing were carried out by his wife. A great “got your back plan”. It show how a young couple can work together to achieve goals. I can’t imagine how anyone would find fault in that scenario. Sure they would endure some time apart but I am sure they would tell you that this is no different then any other couple which one or both are serving their country. William has plenty of time to cut ribbons and champion charities. Let him serve his country in an admirable way, doing something he loves.
Lisa, Rman, here’s my prediction:
They are secretly engaged.
Operation revamp “Waitey Katie” has begun.
Next 18 months: William trains, Kate does more charitable stuff, they meet on weekends at Teapot Cottage, only an hour from Kinloss Base.
Januaryish, 2010: Official Engagement announced.
June/July 2010: WIlliam finishes 18 month training.
July 2010: Wedding of the Millenium!!!!
William and Kate then move to the base in North Wales, where Kate begins carrying out Royal Duties, and learns to speak Welsh fluently.
William does his 3-5 year stint as heli pilot.
2011/2012: Little Willette or Katiekins is born.
I’ll have to get back to you about what follows after that, my Psychic said my credit card was declined.
alsgal,I love the plan but I don’t think we will have to wait til 2010 for that wedding! Honestly, I don’t think all this tabloid silliness has any bearing as to Kate’s position in the family.We get too worked up about it. Don’t be surprised if you wake up one day soon and hear the good news!
Hi Everybody…
I know I’ve said this before, but I really do not understand the whole “secretly engaged” theory. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Why keep it secret? The second it is announced, Kate can receive official protection and will have access to official Clarence House PR, which would mean that they could stop, or at least squash, all of the negative press that’s been plaguing Kate and her family lately.
The thrill of keeping their engagement a secret may be tempting and seem romantic, but in the reality of KM and PW it makes no sense because it would be keeping Kate, unnecessarily, in the line of tabloid fire. And although they may not let the tabs get to them and their relationship, the RF does care about their image and they wouldn’t let this continue on if there was an actual solution to stopping the negative press towards a potential future queen.
I know that we all want a happy ending, but I don’t think this is the best theory…those are just my thoughts, though!
We just have to wait and see what happens. Alsgal, Lisa I have a strong feeling that will happen. Maybe late this year or Early next year but we are going to wake up and that announcement will be the first thing that well say Good Morning to us. At the moment though, I’m looking forward to seeing Kate in action with the PP and Starlight Children’s Foundation. I also look forward to seeing them out somewhere. I think he will be working with The Central Staff soon or probably already doing that.
L, if these were two people who met six months ago or even a year ago,I would agree with you. But this couple has been together longer then some people stay married for. In William’s case,I believe certain milestones had to be reached before he can marry which is why I and some others believe that William asked Kate to marry him but to wait while those milestones were reached. We may never know but I cannot believe for one second that Kate attended a garter ceremony, two weddings and other events without Williams intentions stated to both her family and his.
Alsgal you should be the producer of the movie
I think they should just do another one on Prince William and include Kate in it, I mean he’s been royal his whole life right? Most people would find the royal part much more interesting than the relatinoship part, because everyone has had relationships at one point or another. It’s the fact that he’s a prince would make the movie more interesting, and would probably draw in more ratings anyway.
I believe that there are some reasons behind william’s decision to delay marriage other than the army thing and he is using the ” the army”as an excuse not to get married. Why would he want to delay marriage even more after 5 yrs of dating KM? Doesnt he think that it is time to make a decision? A decision to either, marry her or let her go and be happy with someone else she wont be waiting for an eternity. We dont know the reasons why he is delaying marriage and wont know until Kate finally gets tired of shutting her mouth out. Sorry guys, but my prediction is that this couple will never get married. I believe that their romance is over and dont want to say it because of the high publicity it will bring (especially to KM), and they have opted to go on their own ways (PW to the army and KM to work with her parents) and let the relationship fade out slowly and slowly without calling out too much the public’s attention.
That’s kind of what I thought too, Chelsy.
Thanks Lisa, Rman and Me.
Me, I’d love to do the movie but it needs to have a whole new look, to come from a different angle than the usually cheesy made for televsion royal romance. That’s been done, and frankly, it’s boring. Never captures the magic for me, and usually has me laughing hysterically by the end.
“Yes, Pritz Chulls, I will mary ewe.” Blah!
Black and white, or maybe even anime this time. I’ll have my people call your people.
chelsy and Vicki R, you say that Wills should think it’s time to make a decision. Out of curiousity, I would like to know why, exactly?
Is there some special time limit that William is being held to? Why should he and Kate announce marriage before THEY are ready to make that announcement? I think that if they’re happy and content with things the way they are, and if they’re not complaining, then we should be happy for them and allow them to do things at their own pace.
It’s their relationship, so they’re the ones that get to set the pace, not us.
Alsgal, for a starters.
http://www.rbooks.co.uk/product.aspx?id=1845964209
Mapleleaf, I can certainly see your point but the wish to see people paired off and looking out for each other must go all the way back to the Ark. It’s simply satisfying to see a couple paired off happily and to know they will be there to look out after each other.
Now, some of us also just love a wedding (the dress, the tiara, the sheer majesty of it all — and I will admit to having had a few thoughts as to what colour theme Kate might be going with) but it’s also a hope of mine that Prince Philip and the Queen will be able to be there and see their grandson carry on the line. Yes, they are now both fairly healthy it seems, but they are getting up there in years and no one knows what the future will hold. So, it would certainly be nice to see William married in the next 5 years or so, if for that reason alone.
It should also be pointed out that my July 2010 wedding prediction (after William completes the 18 month training which begins this January) would also make him 28, which is within the range he said he’d like to get married.:)
Whatever they decide to do, I am behind this couple all the way, and I think many here are also pulling for them, and would just like a nice little Boujis sighting so we can put our worries aside that the RAF announcement was anything more than just a career move.
the DM finally picked up on the updates from Party Pieces website.
http://tinyurl.com/4s8vc6
There are a few supportive quotes about Kate toward the end, but it’s still a cynical article altogether. Now I can only hope the PP website doesn’t crash…
Dagsi, I agree the article did seem a bit snarky and I detected a bit of skepticism about Kate’s role at Party pieces, but I suspect Rebecca English lost her mole and is no longer as inclined to be kind. JMO, though.
The article did seem to point to a future engagement, and as I have pointed out before, why would they make such an extraordinary effort to pacify Kate’s critics if all bets were off?
Very much on, revamp for next 18 months, and then Official Engagement Announcement.
BTW Rebecca English needs to check her facts!:)
She writes in the article that Kate’s “four day a week Jigsaw position” was created especially for her.
Yet, Jigsaw owner Belle Robinson said on the record in the Evening Standard interview it was a three day per week position.
Not a big deal IMO, but it just shows how sloppy
Rebecca English is if she and the DMail can’t even get something factual straight.
Alsgal, I agree. The whole wording of the article seems condescending, like Kate’s job is a big joke. If she was using her royal connections I think Kate would have done this a long time ago. It’s her parents company and Kate works there. The DM have just given PP more exposure by putting the web page in the article so hopefully PP will do even more buisness now. They just can’t give the girl a break!
I think people need to be more concerned about Chelsy and why photos continue to appear of her. There is a new one although its from 2006 that if you look closely it looks as though there is a bag of pot on her lap. I could be wrong, but Chelsy has been photo smoking questionable cigarettes.
I wouldn’t be surprised if TIF was once more the source of this. They seem to be the only “royal source” the DM has in the moment. Well it’s the Royal forum after all.
The next thing they’ll say is how the Middleton’s use Kate for promo when it was in fact the DM who made the whole thing public. NOW people will start visiting PP. I, too, hope it brings in good business. Btw. I tried to google this Party Pieces site using “Kate Middleton” and didn’t find it.
I won’t worry about this too much. I honestly didn’t expect differently no matter what Kate would have done. Any job she would have started would have been called nothing but a PR stunt, just like any charity work she does or univeristy degree she may have started now after months of claling her Waitey Katie. She has to “sit it out”.If she keeps up working for PP (and keeps a low profile where she’s hardly ever seen out and about), it will become less and less plausible to question her employment.
Mapleleaf,
William is just like any other guy-I have a lot of guy friends, and he is behaving exactly like a guy who does not want to marry right now. My friend did the same thing to his girlfriend, they are not together anymore and have a kid but he has no feelings for the ex whatsoever.
It could change, but for the moment, he does not appear to want to get married.
Of course, that is my opinion, just like yours, even if I knew William I could not know exactly what he was thinking about. Everyone seems to like guessing about William, so why not me too?
Just because you all want him to marry Kate, does not mean he will, or that he will announce it when you want him to (no offense).
I agree Vicki R.
William may not marry Kate.
I think the fact that her family seems to have gone into overdrive in the press is telling in itself.
I just think a young lady who has the engagement coming for sure would be low key and quiet, no press, already inside the Palace a few days a week being prepped, waiting for the day for the announcement, but here Kate is still trying to prove she’s Princess material. Shouldn’t William know at this point if he wants to marry her.
P.S. This month’s Royalty magazine has some wonderul photos of Chelsy, when she was going to the Palace with her mother.
What about when the press have and goes overdirve against the Middleton’s ?
I agree with Mapleleaf, perhaps PW/KM have their plan and will do it on their time table.
Chelsy and mom went to CH, PH was home alone.
and the rag mag has photo op’s of Chelsy and Mom ? Interesting.
Ok, is it legal to copy pictures and text from a website and publish it in a “newspaper”? The DM is too much….obviously Kate sells papers.
I hope people punch the site and buy lots of goodies and the starlight foundation too.
I don’t think William has planned any future with Kate, except another vacation or a club outing if he has free time away from service. I think so many people have put the cart before the horse,in this relationship, she must get an engagement first and that is slow in coming, if ever.
First she must get the engagement,before she makes a concrete future with him. So far no engagement, it may come, it may not.
Royalty Magazine photos are quite nice of Chelsy and Mom the day they were out walking and visiting the Palace.
Karenina you would have dumped Prince William. I mean after reading all your posts, that is my conclusion.
Now, Prince Harry and Chelsy have been going out for almost by a bit the same time as Wills and Kate, what do you think about that ?
I just think everyone is speaking as if William has to marry Kate, why does he have to marry Kate? He is 26, there is no rush for him. So what if he’s been dating her for years. No matter how long he dates her, it doesn’t mean she will end up being his bride or the one he falls in love with enough to marry. Maybe he will, Maybe he won’t.
Chelsy is at law school, Harry is in the service, both may meet others.
(I’m married, I don’t date)
Kate is at Party Pieces, william is in the service.
Karenina,
I respect your opinion. However, I see two people with a history who love each other and have shared many things together. I guess I see that Kate has been included in many family events. It is being reported that she has beeen invited to both birthday celebrations for Prince Charles. I would thing that the report of the second party being made after the RAF announcement shows that they are still very much together. I do believe that they are soul mates who have made their own plans and have their own timetable. I think that they have both grown together in the last year.
I am hopeful that they have a long and happy life together.
alsgal, I agree, many of us including myself would like to see another Wills and Kate sighting, and we’d love to see a royal wedding as well. I am in complete agreement with that.
But that isn’t what I asking Vicki R. and karenina about. I was asking them why they feel Wills just HAS to do declare something about his relationship with Kate right now, this very minute, or else. My question is basically “or else what?”
I was explaining to them that Wills and Kate are the ones in the relationship, not us. And just because WE don’t know what they’ve talked about and WE don’t know their plans together doesn’t mean they don’t have any.
It just means WE don’t get to know about it. There have been quite a few assumptions being made in other places on the internet that William and Kate don’t already have an understanding between them of what their future is going to be. But assumptions are just that, Assumptions. They can go either way.
The FACTS are that Wills has continued to include Kate and no other woman BUT Kate, in his life. One tabloid that some people believe in has even stated that Harry said his brother William is so in love that he’s “A bit soppy but in a nice way” and that William is his best friend. Harry was quoted as saying “I am so pleased for him as he is my best friend too”.
Some people will believe Harry said that, some won’t. Harry was quoted directly, so it could be the truth, but on the other hand it was from Fox, so it could be a lie. My point is there have been tabloid articles that claim Wills is in love, just like there are tabloid articles that exclaim that the relationship is probably going to end because Wills has chosen to become an RAF SAR pilot.
The facts and the real-life events show that Wills continues to be with Kate. Theories and assumptions will NEVER trump or overrule real-life events. What is real is that Wills continues to be with Kate. What is real is that they are a couple that continues to choose to spend private time together. William was just in Mustique with Kate’s family in August, and he was at a wedding in Austria with Kate. And contrary to the misinformation given by someone who posted here, William and Kate flew to Austria together on British Airways, and that was verified.
Wills could’ve been with anyone in the world in the month of August, but he chose to be with Kate. He was with her after they came home from Mustique also when they went to Raffles.
I’m pretty sure that at some point we’ll see Wills with Kate again, and if we do, then those with the theories and assumptions will have to deal with the fact that William continues to be with Kate despite their theories and their assumptions and their monologues about how Kate isn’t important to William.
Those things can be said over and over and over again like a mantra until the person is blue in the face, but none of it will change the real events. What matters isn’t the theories, what matters is who Wills continues to be with. And if it’s Kate that he’s with after almost 5 years of dating, then it’s Kate that he wants to be with.
At some point, people have to just deal with logic and stop with the theories. Logic dictates that if a couple have been together almost 5 years, then they’ve had conversations about their future. Just because WE don’t know the gist of the conversations doesn’t mean they haven’t taken place, and just because we don’t know what their plans are doesn’t mean they don’t have any. Wills and Kate are on their own timetable, NOT ours.
If I remember correctly, William said he does not pay attention to what people write about him, and that he doesn’t read the papers-if he doesn’t pay attention to that, then doesn’t that mean he wouldn’t give the paparazzi quotes anyway? Or give them stories about him? The press is just speculating, and so are we, and that’s all there is to it.
but ……
none of it means there are any guarantees that William will marry Kate , he might but he might not and so far he is still not married.
I’m not sure why people keep saying he’s going to marry her. I don’t see any engagement ring on her and no official engagement and it’s been five years.
The tabloid writers just want to make a few bucks, probably.
I agree with karenina (excellent posts btw)
Why do they have to marry?
“Karenina,
I respect your opinion. However, I see two people with a history who love each other and have shared many things together. I guess I see that Kate has been included in many family events. It is being reported that she has beeen invited to both birthday celebrations for Prince Charles. I would thing that the report of the second party being made after the RAF announcement shows that they are still very much together. I do believe that they are soul mates who have made their own plans and have their own timetable. I think that they have both grown together in the last year.
I am hopeful that they have a long and happy life together.”
So because they love each other they must marry? People fall in and out of love all the time. I know people who have dated for years and years before realizing that they were with the wrong person and then finding the right person, dating them for a short amount of time and marrying them after a couple of years. So she has been included in family events, I went to my ex-boyfriend’s family events and I am sure we have all been to ex partners family events.
Or is it that it is because they are royal? Well, people say that they are more modern and in this day and age it would be more backward for them to include her in anything. You can’t say that they are just a normal couple and then claim that Kate and William are obviously going to marry because Kate went to his Dad’s birthday party. At that type of social event it is custom to have a date and who else would William choose?
Unless we know Kate and William (which I doubt people here do),then we cannot say that they are 100% in love and we can definately cannot say that they are soulmates as that sort of claim has no evidence at all.
If they are not 100% sure about marriage why should they get married? Because if they were 100% sure about it, I cannot see a reason at all why they could not already be married which means that there is something holding them back. If they were completely besotted and knew that they definately wanted to get married, they would not let anything stand in their way.
P.S Good morning!
Good morning,
First, I do not want anyone to get married unless they are are sure of their love and commitment. Marriage can be wonderful or it can be disasterous. I am just an observer who like the rest of us are guessing as to what will happen next. I would say however that William and Kate have shared milestones in their lives. I don’t think that Kate would have been invited to the formal birthday party or the Garter ceremony unless there was a very serious relationship with William. I don’t think that there would be these revelations about Kate’s work with Starlight and PP unless there were serious movements for a future with William. I feel that the Queen knew this already. I agree that there is no official statement about their relationship. I am just going by the fact that family is important to William. By including Kate in all of these family events(both royal and Middleton family), William is showing his true feeling about her.
Kat your absolutely right. Seeing is believing. As you stated,what we are seeing is that William and Kate are solid and have a future together.
B, you said: “I cannot see a reason at all why they could not already be married which means that there is something holding them back. If they were completely besotted and knew that they definately wanted to get married, they would not let anything stand in their way.”
No offense, but that’s just it, YOU can’t see a reason why. But you’re not Prince William, and you’re not Kate Middleton.
So it doesn’t matter if you can’t see a reason why just as it doesn’t matter if I or anyone else can’t see a reason why.
All that matters is what WILLIAM and KATE see as their reasons. As I said before, none of our talk will change reality.
Reality is that they continue to choose to be together, and there is no way to escape that simple fact. If they do marry, it will be according to their own timetable and their own schedule, no matter what we (the public) think. I’m not trying to be disagreeable, just practical.
I’ve read so many statements and comments in different places about the state of the relationship between Wills and Kate, and some of the comments ( Not yours, B
) seem to be rooted in some type of unrealistic, elaborate theory about William basically being held hostage mentally or emotionally by Kate, as if that way these people can explain away William’s choice to continue to be with Kate by saying he’s been forced into it in some manner.
Either those people have been watching too much television and too many movies, or they haven’t experienced anything in life remotely similar to a long-term relationship and they just don’t know how it works.
I think a lot of time people forget that the photos only allow us to see only a very tiny fraction of William and Kate’s lives. Often their entire relationship is judged by a photo that was snapped within 5 seconds, and people make up theories from that 5 second photograph, without stopping to include the normal practicalities.
For instance, do we know how often Wills and Kate communicate with each other? They can call on their mobiles, or text, or email, or post on facebook, or even write letters. Do they talk daily, weekly, what? And when they talk to each other, what do they say? What is their favourite song together? What are their personal jokes together? What are their favourite activities? (non-private activities, I mean). What is their favourite meal together?
We don’t know any of those things, and there are tonnes of other stuff we don’t know. Yet some persist in thinking that THEY know what is and isn’t going on between these 2 people, despite the very visible evidence that Wills and Kate are together and continue to choose to be together.
pictures of Chelsy in Leeds:
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/editorial/all/quick-search.html?page=1
Very good post, mapleleaf.
I do not get why people always pretend that it is such a necessity to marry after this and that amount of time together. Why? Even less so do I get this when the same people don’t question any other relationship based on the same standards. I don’t read endless dabates abotu Zara and Mike, Harry and Chelsy or before their wedding Peter and Autumn…
Gosh, I could come up with a few reasons why William and Kate in particular may not be married yet and neither entails the idea that it’s a lack of love for each other that kept them from tying the know.
1. they don’t want children yet and being royal they’d be expected to have children within a year after marriage
2. William has not yet taken on a full time “regular” job and was away from home quite often over the last year or two and he wouldn’t have wanted to leave his newly wed wife alone with the courtiers who’d probably give her a hard time having to figure out her new role without spousal support
3. they are being stubborn and don’t want to give anyone the possibility to say “I told you so” when it comes to their decision to marry or leave the impression that they were pressured into an engagement by the press speculation.
4. Kate has more freedom in her lifestyle right now than she would as a royal and she doesn’t want to give that up (quite yet)
5. William doesn’t want to upset his father by becoming part of a very popular young royal couple that would hardly leave any room for C&C in public perception and affection
6. William doesn’t have the financial means to set up his own royal household, doesn’t want to completely depend on daddy and hence waits till he has full access to his mother’s heritage
Has anyone noticed that PP website has changed some of its wording in the “About Us” section, taking Kate’s name off the Cherry Picked Collection and also giving her credit for them participating in Starlight? They have also added the people who are responsible for actually packaging the items too. Do you think PP employers where upset by the DM article and felt they were left out? Its very weird to me why they would change this. I think it looks bad to give Kate credit for it and then change it.
They took her name off the inspiration for Starlight. Sorry
Kate has an article about her in Vanity Fair online. Her lawyer states she has been working at PP and has even taken a course in posting catalogs on websites.
“Wills Cup Of Tea”- vanityfair.com
Its nice that the Party Pieces website has all the staff published in About Us, team work.
I also read the Vanity Fair, Gracie the author seems to give a recopillation of events, what the press said, her thoughts (journalist) and some info from direct sources with name and all included.
What I meant Mapleleaf is that there must be a reason why they do not marry right now and you are right I don’t know what it is and I cannot see a reason why they haven’t already married if they REALLY wanted to. Any of the reasons that Tricie said could be possible but until that reason goes, why are we pressurizing them to marry? Shouldn’t we wait until there is no reason (meaning that they don’t say “I want to wait because of…”) because then they will be happy and in love and 110% sure.
The Vanity Fair article seems very good and well researched. The only info that sort of surprised me was thepart about William cruising inGreece with female friends in 2004. The only “love boat” cruise I could find took place in 2004.
I have heard many times that people said WIll and Kate had a break-up before the 2007 one, this article indicates as much as well. Does anyone remember what the story was back then because I can’t find anything about it anymore.
sorry typo… the love boat cruise with female friends I could find took place in 1999 – not 2004 (except I missed one)….
Yes I just read that artical and it really gave us some insight on William & Kate and how strong they are. It also give us some info on how Kate reacts to things and the media. There’s a bond there that the speculation can’t break and that is what I’ve been saying all along. The whole RAF choice throw alot of people off but better believe that they got this all worked out. The two are in love, what more can you say.!!!
I re-read the article again and this part in particular angers me because it makes it sound like William and Kate only got back together because he couldn’t find a surrogate girlfriend fast enough.
“He talked to friends such as Tamara Rosenberg during this time and basically expressed his confusion. On the one hand he loved Kate and wanted it to work. But he wanted to be sure he’d explored all his options. As he told a source, “I think it’s a good idea to ‘sow my wild oats.’ ” What he discovered was that the other women he was interested in were occupied or not interested in him. “I don’t think he found it that easy to get a replacement,” says Kay.”
Give me a break. The guy broke up with his g/f of 4 years with major damage to his own and her reputation, supposedly yelled “I’m free” but when he didn’t find another woman within a “few weeks”, he decided not to bother any further and return to Kate?!? WTF! Who makes stuff like that up?
I guess it’s safe to say that Tamara Rosenberg will not be a trusted friend for much longer.
I still don’t know that I believe they really broke up during that time as Kate was always with one of Williams pals when she went out. If they did break up I think taking Willem Marx would seem more logical. What is ya’ll take on PP changing their website yet again?
I like their website and it seems like business is booming. They are really trying to give the credit to those who are working behind the scenes.
Gracie…
I think it’s a bad move to keep changing the site. Whether true or not, it makes it appear as if the only reason they are doing it is to please the press…and that they are reacting to press/forum comments, rather than doing what is truthful, and in the best interest of their company. If Kate is helping with as much as was originally stated, then great…she has every right to be mentioned, regardless of who she is…everybody doing work should be recognized for their efforts. But to change things and remove her name from certain projects just adds more fuel to the “is she or isn’t she working diligently for her family” fire.
A professional company, which is what people would consider PP to be, doesn’t just add and then revise sections so quickly the way that they have been doing. In general, months of planning go into adding a section, and not until they are completely satisfied with the layout, message, etc., does it appear on the site for the public to view.
So, in my opinion, it seems a bit unprofessional to keep changing it. Whether it’s in relation to the press comments or not, it doesn’t necessarily show their company in the best light to be that openly fickle with their planning abilities. I thought it was a great step, initially….but now I’m slightly disappointed by how it’s being handled.
L, I agree. Plus it puts unwanted attention on PP. The constant changing just plays into what the press deems as smokescreen job for Kate. It makes me wonder who really wrote the newsletter to begin with. Kate is only mentioned one time, I believe, and that is with the “1st birthdays.” These changes have been made since yesterday and I wonder what purpose it serves cause now it looks as though they cater to the media. It’s silly.
I think they are changing it for the better. It does seem like they can’t decide how to make it better. but they are getting there. It’s nice for them show the team working. Right now they are trying different this for the site. No trying to confuse anyone.
I know they’re not trying to confuse anyone, rman, but being a multi-million pound business, they should not be trying to decide how to make it better in full view of the public…that is what should go on behind the scenes, so as to not damage their professional reputation by appearing fickle….so, your optimism is fantastic, but as gracie said, it’s just drawing more attention to them in a negative light, unfortunately.
One comment in the Vanity Fair article that I found interesting was when her lawyer stated that she can call him whenever necessary and he will do what is needed, including the dispatch of protection officers. So, that would lead me to think that she does, perhaps, have security detail at times but not necessarily from William or the RF, like some have previously thought.
Is Kate represented by the same law firm as William? Why would she call her lawyer to dispatch security officers? I would think Kate would have a direct line to them. I think its good that she has someone speaking on her behalf besides “sources.” But usually it’s a PR that does the talking or an press agent, not a lawyer. Lawyers only talk on their clients behalf if they are envolved is some type of litigation or legal issues. I like Kate and I hope she and William marry, but I think its sad that her parents are jeapordising their company in order to make Kate have better PR. It does look a little desperate and makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes!
I think people are making too much out of Kate’s job. She just working and helping bring ideas to the table. I hope they just leave the site alone and just highlight the workers jobs and how they are working hard to continue making PP a success. I have to admit that the site needed some kick to it and that is what they are doing.
Maybe Kate is thinking over the possibility of a law suit against the papers that have been basically ruined her reputation without any apparent factual basis over the past months? Otherwise I agree that it is odd that a lawyer would speak on her behalf. I do wonder why VF approached him in the first place? I mean is Kate’s lawyer the first person you would call if you wanted to write an article about her?
Maybe they wanted to be on the safe side and asked for comment or a sort of “get go” on the article they intended to post so as not to attract legal action themselves.
Rman, I agree there is nothing wrong with updating PP website. What bothers me is that PP had Kate listed as being envolved in more than what she actually does and they changed it. The problem is that it is very carless and foolish to do this at a time when they are trying to build Kate image. The DM caught sight of the new PP site and don’t think for a minute they will not notice how Kate’s involvement has been downgraded. It makes Kate look bad! I am not feeling good about this. I think if RF had the intentions to make Kate apart of the RF, these type of mistakes would not be happening.
Trixie, Kate had to give her lawyer permission to speak on her behalf which means Kate knew ahead of time that VF was writing a piece or she came to them.
That’s perhaps true, as it would otherwise compromise attorney-client privilege I would think? But not to matter, as the article was friendly in tone, thank heavens for that!
I was just wondering, but since we know how close Kate is to her family (which I think is lovely myself) does anyone know of any aunts or uncles or cousins?
I seem to recall reading about one brother of Carole Middleton, a Greg or Gary Goldsmith. I think he was divorced, although I’m not sure.
Have never heard anything about any aunts or uncle’s on Michael Middleton’s side.
Even tried looking up under both of Kate’s grandmother’s obits, which would list their children, but can’t find anything. Perhaps I am searching incorrectly?
Dorothy Harrison Goldsmith d. July 21, 2006 in Reading, England
Valerie Glassborow Middleton, d. Sept. 13, 2006 in Hampshire, England.
Does look like Grandpa Middleton was an RAF’er, so nice that PW is continuing the family tradition.
Wasn’t Michael an RAF pilot as well? Maybe that’s were William got his inspiration from because the RF has more of a Navy tradition. Even Andrew though he flew helicopters was still in the navy not a RAF pilot… He probably heard a lot of nice flyer stories.
That would be another interesting angle regarding a supposed “estrangement” because of William’s RAF plans.
Alsgal, I have found Michael Middleton’s side through thepeerage.com. What are you up too, funny lady?
Seems like someone is working hard at trying to fix Kate image, even though they have slipped up a little. I hope that this is for an engagement announcement and not a break-up announcement!
Nothing Gracie
, just curious about Kate’s extended family: aunts, uncles, cousins, ex-aunts or uncles. Crazy great aunts, even.
Valerie’s paid obit in the Daily Telegraph as I recall seemed to include some reference to sailing, but I thought that the only child who was mentioned was Michael?
Which would explain why we never see a Middleton cousin.
The peerage doesn’t list Carole’s brother, yet I know she has one, Gary or Greg Goldsmith. I do believe he was married, but we’ve never seen Kate with a Goldsmith cousin. I wonder if there are any?
Maybe they mentioned Gary/Greg in in one of the Mail coalmining articles? Anyone remember?
Although Kate undoubtedly was the inspiration for the Starlight involvement (and nice that Carole was a proud and defensive mother, as well she should be) I do think this more subtle approach comes across much better, and I’m glad they’ve added more of the team effort aspect to their site. They didn’t have to, it is their company, but it was a friendly thing to do and better PR-wise not to overstate things.
After all, Party Pieces isn’t in America, where people tend to be a bit louder about their accomplishments.
Alsgal, from what I have read and we know we can’t believe all that is written, I don’t think Carole has much to do with her side of the family. I can’t remember where I read it though, maybe the Telegraph. So don’t quote me, maybe they have had a falling out or something?
I had also heard the sad rumour that they were estranged, and I hoped that wasn’t the case, as family is so important and at least Kate has a warm and loving immediate family. If it’s true that his ex gave the press the private baby photos, I will follow them to the ends of Darlinghurst to wack them on the head with my frying pan! How rude is that, giving away private photos without permission? Just no excuse, and it made people incorrectly assume it was Mike and Carole Middleton who were promoting/selling out Kate, when in fact, they were protecting her privacy.
I simply hope that it’s not true.
I think the aunt? leaked only photos and some sour grapes about Carole. Whoever has been speaking about Kate to Hello! is much closer to home. I can only hope Kate’s OK with that, as it seems inevitable that family members gossip to reporters — even Sarah Spencer did.
Good evening friends:)
Have you all read the Vanity Fair article?
I believe that Clarence House is behind this sudden positive media blitz surrounding Kate and thats a very good thing indeed!
Thoughts?
A sudden blitz I must confess I do not see, Lisa.:)
The Rebecca English Party Pieces article was snarky, as well as the Starlight Emma Samms one, which pointed out Kate has dropped some friends. That article read as skeptical IMO.
Unfairly so, mind you, but not so friendly.
Yes, the VF article was nicer in tone, although mentioning the Middleton girls being compared to the Bouvier sisters (Jacqueline Kennedy and Lee Radziwill) is not exactly a compliment as they were widely considered to be social climbing golddiggers. Not so nice to mention that.
It’s not a bad article, but if CH was behind it, wouldn’t they have mentioned her June/July involvement w/ Starlight? Have they mentioned First Birthdays, which CH would know about prior to this week that Kate was associated with since she started back in January, according to Carole’s previous letter.
So, a bit better in tone, but not thinking there’s a CH blitz.
Not yet, anyway.
Maybe the correct term should have been a higher profile PR presence. Hello and VF mainstream mags and they both featured Kate in a realistic view,IMO. Not over the top positive, not bashing her. It’s a good sign. I don’t think it is a coincidence that Williams PR team started this month or maybe even last month. It’s a good sign,IMO.
Trixie
The first break up if I can remember correctly was at college and it occurred at ball. I think William had started to flirt with another girl quite blatantly and Kate had stormed off. This is a very vague memory. But in the Vanity Fair article it seems to point towards the fact that William has a little bit of a commitment phobia issue as he has twice felt claustrophobic. Or maybe Kate is the wrong girl who knows. As Mapleleaf said we have no idea what really goes on.
I think a lot of companies make changes to their websites when they are revamping them & maybe they are changing it because of the press. They are trying to do the best for their daughter… I do believe that CH is currently trying to revamp her image similar to what they did for Camilla before she got engaged. This pp website change and the addition of charity work seems to point to the revamp and so it should. She has been on her own for long enough it is high time that CH stepped in and started helping her if that is the case.
Lisa, I’m going to have to revise my previous statement after rereading the article.:(
Given that Kate’s lawyer was obviously authorised in some way to speak on the record to VF, I am actually a bit put out that the article was not friendlier towards Kate.
Rereading it, and maybe I am too sensitive to criticism of Kate at this point, but it didn’t make her sound that likeable IMO. More manipulative, overconfident and a bit of a puppet of her mother’s, which we all know is completely untrue.
Is it just me who thinks that it didn’t portray her very fairly? Not a hatchet job, but still not very friendly given her lawyer’s helpfulness.
I am not so sure it was truly being fair or nice to Kate or William.
Guys, a new article is in the Telegraph about James Middleton, Kate’s brother, and Lo and Behold… it’s nice!!!
Here’s the link, it’s actually a good article:
http://tinyurl.com/4hhqwp
I understand what you are saying alsgal, but what i think they may have been trying to portray (but may have missed the mark) is that she has enormous self control, which frankly being part of the circus that is the Royal family is a necessity. As for being controlling well some of us are made that way…. But I think what is more likely is that because she dates William she and has to do things like sweeping the restaurant before he can come in and sit down to eat, some could construe it to be controlling or demanding.. Where as in reality she is just trying to protect herself and William.
I actually took the restaurant bit as a good sign, because it shows how protective she is of William and their private relationship — a good thing.
Controlling, no I didn’t see that, although, well that’s in the eye of the beholder and William seems to be comforted by having a strong, stern motherly type which IMO is understandable after losing his own. I almost thought for a second of the Duke of Windsor, also fair, also a cancer, also born in the year of the dog (for those who believe in such things
)who also had a very strong brunette woman by his side, or in front of him on occasion.
What’s important is that they are both happy, and I do think they will get married, it’s just now a question of waiting. And waiting.
I do wish CH had VF mention Starlight and First Birthdays/Party Pieces — they seemed to have forgotten to mention it, so not so sure how inside the people in the VF article really are?
Maybe at time of going to press the starlight connection hadn’t been made as yet (publicly on their website).
Yes Alsgal we will have to wait and wait possibly till 2010 or 2011. Hopefully after all of the panic attacks that William seems to have had he has finally realized that she is the one for him… Hopefully….
The VF article seems like a backround piece to me. It is interesting how it mentions the new PR guy.
I don’t know,I am still thinking that we won’t be waiting so long for that big announcement.
Crossing my fingers…
Alsgal, was reading your post earlier and I too agree that CH is not envolved in the VF article. Like you said it was not a negative article or a positive one just kinda in the middle. Kate recent image problems had me thinking about Princess Mary and how she was getting some negative press of her own and then I see a picture in HELLO! and PM is in Africa helping orphans. That example reminded me of what royal PR firms do to change a image, not going to VF.
Just read Telegraph article. It was a nice write up for James although I don’t like his hair in the photo and did ya notice he’s wearing a signet ring on his pinky finger. How very royal of him!
Lisa, I agree something feels like it’s going on behind the scenes and I’m hoping we don’t have to wait much longer for the wedding.
Warming up my W&C lawnchair for this long has made Alsgal’s arse look like a hamburger off the grill — too many stripes to count!
Still curious though, why the VF article didn’t mention Starlight if that’s been in the pipeline and they would have known the article would be published after the Starlight announcement was coming out — surely, Kate’s lawyer would have wanted it mentioned if this was supposed to be a bit of the clear-the-air, “here is Kate’s background” sort of piece? Just seemed odd IMO.
Gracie, don’t you be dissing my handsome and entrepreneurial James!
If only there wasn’t a Big Al and a large body of water between us …
I agree, I think something is going on behind the scenes also.
just a question, is james middleton gay? I am asking this because of the pictures he took dressed as a woman, probably he was joking, but by looking at him, he does seem to be kind of feminine.
Chelsy,
It doesn’t seem like he is, I know someone who dressed as a girl for Halloween once, and has a girlfriend (wonder what she thought about that), James seems more like the “bad” boy if you know what I mean.
-Apryl
I think the discussion of James sexuality is in poor taste and I hope Steven chooses to delete these comments as they have no bearing on the topic of the website,British Royal Wedding. The line is being crossed here in the effort to show Kate’s family in a negative light.
How would you like your sexual orientation discussed on a message board? Please try to remember that these are real people with feelings.
Lisa,
Then why are you discussing William’s life all over the boards? Talking about his girlfriend is kind of talking about sexuality too, of sorts, and judging from the fact that James gave permission to publish those pictures, I think he wants us to talk about him. Why else would he make them public?
Vicki R
James Middleton didn’t give permission to publish those pictures, which is why the Daily Mail removed the entire article.
If you go to the Daily Mail website and search, you’ll see that the article is no longer there, it has been removed.
Hi,
Yeah I kind of agree that the comments shouldn’t get too involved into anyone’s sexuality unless the story is specifically about that.
I don’t see any posts here that have gone too far down that path so I’m going to let the comments stand.
It’s not such a big deal in this day and age anyway is it? Let’s leave it at that shall we?
Steven
No, Steven, it is not a big deal and while it would be perfectly OK if James was gay, it should also be pointed out that statistically most cross-dressing men are actually heterosexual, so I think too much has been read into those pictures. Silly college boys having fun, nothing more than that.:)
Even if James went to law school or drove a bus, he would still be accused of cashing in on his connections and taking opportunities away from deserving nobodies by those silly people who refuse to ever see anything good about the Middletons.
According to these people, unless one is volunteering for Aids orphans by age 18, and working as either a doctor, nurse, public defender, serious journalist, teacher or for the UN one is horribly shallow, materialistic and not worthy of respect. Those can be admirable professions, but they aren’t the only ones that make the world go ’round.
Lots of people work for their family business and I don’t see why everyone has an issue with that. Is he expoiting his connections by availing himself of the free publicity? Maybe so, but so what? I exploited my personal connections to get my job, so did my mechanic to get his. We all have to do that to a certain extent.
Good point mapleleaf. The photograph was taken in jest & unfortunately even the Middletons have some individuals who surround them who can be bought or are very spiteful. But quite frankly if that is the worst they can come up with then they are doing pretty well. The princes themselves have been caught out in worst photographs (Harry has) so I don’t think that photograph affected things much. Might I add that the Middletons have conducted themselves impeccably the last 4/5 years and William is indeed lucky to be dating Kate..
Alsgal, hello dear, I don’t think Michael Middleton has siblings. I believe he is the only child. How is your family tree research from yesterday going? I am concerned about this PR of Kate as I think if an engagement were in the cards,tea leaves, etc.. she would have help from royal PR. The economy is going to **** and if Kate and William break up again, it’s all to much!!
Gracie, it’s slow going I’m afraid, but I must admit I was curious if Carole’s brother’s ex-wife was the one who sold/leaked the early photos of Carole w/ Kate, along with the sour grapes stories, and whether a gag order wasn’t placed on her last year prior to the breakup. Just nosy, and wondering who else would have had the motive to set Carole up in the press as a not very nice person. An ex-in law of an estranged brother would make sense, very sad to think though. More so than an ex-employee, I would think.
Why does that matter? I think because it shows that until this past month Carole Middleton and her children have never reacted to the press in such a public matter. If Kate started in January, and we have no reason to believe she didn’t, why are they now releasing this information on the PP website? Why did it take 8 months for Hello! to publish a story confirming that Kate was working full time for her parents? Surely they ran into Kate at Autumn’s wedding.
Guys, this makes no sense. Even Kate’s staunchest critics will admit she is fairly media savvy, especially for one so young, so what would be the motive for delaying the somewhat “official” confirmation to Hello! that Kate was working for her parents, or to post it on the PP website?
I am thinking either William’s new PR man Miguel Head gave the all clear and told the Middletons it was OK to fibnally set the record straight, that they should handle it themselves, but with the full blessing of Clarence House.
Or, and this the scenario that I don’t want to think about is, that while Kate and William are still in love, perhaps this RAF position finally coming through was a bit of a surprise, and they realised pragmatically that until an announcement is made, they would need to take PR matters into their own hands as Clarence House has not seemed to have provided much help.
Alsgal, I could not have wrote it better myself. The same ideas are running through my head. Why now? If an engagement was on the horizon, why wouldn’t William PR want to make Kate image better so the announcement would be accepted by the public and most of the press? Kate/mother must be doing her own PR as it does not look professional w/the constant changes being made. Maybe William left Kate high and dry and she’s left to fix the pieces.
If William left Kate, she would not have any reason to try and “fix” her image since she wouldn’t need an “image” in the first place.
I think it’s very likely that the extremely nasty comemnts after the roller disco which basically stopped short of calling her a useless w**** were the reason for this announcement.
There have been small mentions of her working for PP before, remember also the pics from June/July. But since that wasn’t noticed publicly among all the “Waity Katie” screams, they may have decided to contact Hello (discretely) and when that also went largely unnoticed they at least wanted to put their story out there through the only means they really have – the PP site.
Trixie, I think if William did break up with her, I would hope she would want to change the negative perceptions of her. Some people believe this stuff and it could effect her parents business and her getting employment elsewhere if she ever decides to. IF they have broken up the press will blame her and I would not put it past the RF to do what is needed to make William image better. So if Kate has any self respect, I would hope she would want people to know who she really is in her own words. IMO.
They are publishing another book about Kate and her life? I was reading the other blogs and that is what they have been saying.
Guys, I have a feeling that Kate has the full support of CH and they are letting her set the record straight, like you said Alsgal. They are trying to let the public know some facts about her and we will see her much more in action soon. It really does seem that William & Kate are indeed taking things to another level. They are taking a different approach to this and we just have to wait and see what else they have planned.
Even if they are together or not the About Us and photographed was published for a reason. Both of which are to improve Kate’s image. If they are together then it would just be standard practice for her after the negative press (let’s not read too much into it). If they have broken up (which I doubt, they may break up soon but I don’t think they have atm), then it is to include Kate more into the family business, to say “told you so” and to improve her image so that if she wanted a job elsewhere once the break up announcement had been made and the press had lost interest, she could get another job.
CH has never helped a girlfriend with her PR and frankly (I suddenly thought of Gone with the Wind as I typed that), I dont think they should. IMO, if she wants to be a private citizen that’s great, good for her etc etc But if she gets help from CH I feel that she is saying I’m not a private citizen. CH only works with royals anyway. This is a stupid example but I hope you would understand. I work in the legal department of my partner’s business and when I work for for Person , I work for only X and I only help X and ensure that his/her legal problems are sorted. That is what my role is and that is what I are paid for. I do not help Person X’s partner or family with their problems.
Do you see what I am getting at? The role of a person within Clarence House is to assist the royals not their friends or partners.
There is a new book coming out. You can see it on Amazon it’s called Princess in Waiting and I believe it is by Claudia Jones (I think that’s the author’s name).
Here is the link for the new book:
http://tinyurl.com/3zbpez
Apologies, it was Claudia Joseph not Claudia Jones. I was nearly right
I found the blurb/plot part rather sickening actually. I’m all for positive impressions but that seemed to paining Kate as if she was the best thing since sliced bread or as if she was the most amazing, most intelligent, most beautiful person ever.
Yes, I’m sure she’s a sweet girl, she got a 2:1 so she’s not academically stupid and she is attractive but I sensed hyperbole all the way through that.
alsgal I think you could be right that the “new information on the PP” website could be attributed to Miguel Head. IMO the reason why this wasn’t announced 8 months back is that they were still playing a different kind of waiting game i.e. lets take it slow and see how it goes (the relationship that is). I think the introduction of Kate to court (going to more and more high profile events) is a well planned out strategy by CH. They I think have been gauging public opinion and addressing things as they come up. Kate’s job situation has been a problem for a while and they have probably been putting a strategy together and the starlight/website thing is what they came up with & I think it is great.
Asgal do you have any idea how long Camila’s re-introduction/revamp took? I am sure that you are right about the 18 month waiting period but I remember being surprised (although I was younger didn’t like cammy or charles so maybe didn’t pay attention to whispering) by the announcement of the engagement of Charles and Camilla & didn’t know if it was a similar 1 1/2 year waiting period?
B
I think the blub is all about the spin to get people to buy the book… give people crumbs to get excited about when in reality it will probably be a re-hash of the same things we read every day.
Claudia just knows how to sell. Kate is pretty awesome in my eyes even though I don’t know her and only see a fraction of what goes on. I am British by birth & I feel although many criticize her she has won the majority of hearts in the British public already!
Well Kate amazes a lot of people. In reality William & Kate relationship is turning into a old royal romance. She is strong, intelligent and very confident.
Although I would like a William & Kate sighting now, they are just simply busy. I don’t know why people are still talking about a break up after all the time they have spent together. Which is one of reasons why they have spent so much time together is because they would be very busy later on. B, I understand what you are saying but I’m sure they are letting her straighten this out on her own and she is doing a good job at it. We are about to see a new Kate.
jj, oh you better believe that she is getting some help. They did the same thing for Camilla. And it’s time for them to do that and enough with the messing around.
Here here Rman
I think people just panicked because William’s RAF announcement wasn’t the expected path so everyone drew their own conclusions… But you are right all of the positive articles which are appearing all over the place definitely point to an intervention…. So I am keeping my fingers toes and everything else crossed!! The three parties which Prince Charles will be holding for his birthday should provide some sightings… I wonder how many of those she will be present at???
Yes I have to admit that there was a big panic break out when he made that announcement. It would be nice if she and Chelsy went to the comedy gala but we just have wait on that. I have no doubt that they will go to the other parties though. I wonder will William & Harry will make it to the comedy gala, if so then they will probably bring them along. If not, they may just go themseleves.
Royals awarded honorary RAF titles
Published Date: 02 October 2008
Senior members of the Royal Family have been given honorary RAF titles to mark the monarchy’s strong links with the service, with several connected to bases in Lincolnshire.
Prince William, 26, has been made Honorary Air Commandant for RAF Coningsby near Lincoln.
The Prince announced last month that he was transferring from the Army, where he served as an officer, to the air force and will train to become an RAF Search and Rescue Force helicopter pilot next year.
Flying Officer Wales was awarded his RAF wings in April and became the fourth successive generation of the monarchy to become an air force pilot.
William’s father, the Prince of Wales, and grandfather, the Duke of Edinburgh, both learned how to master a number of aircraft and have been awarded their RAF wings.
They were following in the footsteps of William’s great-grandfather Prince Albert, later King George VI, who became the first royal to serve in the RAF, between 1918 and 1919, becoming a qualified pilot in the process.
The Earl of Wessex has become Honorary Air Commodore RAF Waddington, Lincoln, and his wife the Countess of Wessex, Honorary Air Commodore RAF Wittering, near Stamford, Lincolnshire.
“she has won the majority of hearts in the British public already!”
That is a very controversial statement jj as you could never be sure of that. I myself am also from England. But the people I know do not like Kate. I like her because William loves her and I respect his decision, but I do not always agree with her actions (as some people here know and I would not expect you to as I believe that you are a new member here). All the people I know dislike her and have very little respect for her.
However, I am not saying that the people I know is a fair representation of what the whole country thinks. It is human nature to be friends with people who have similar morals, ideas and values as each other. Therefore, person X will find all the people he knows to believe one thing but person Y will find something very different. All I am saying is that that statement is not valid because it is based upon opinions which are formed by yourself because of the friends that you have and their beliefs.
Nobody can say that a majority of people like her, likewise they cannot say that a majority dislike her. It is impossible to tell so unless you have conducted a referendum (in which case why was I missed out?), that statement is unreliable and is not all valid. It only stands to say that you and your company like Kate, it does not say what the rest of Britain thinks.
I don’t think there was panic. I have always believed that if there will be a marriage that it will be in 2010 and still believe that. In fact I would love to say that it was me who persuade others here to believe it but I think that it was the articles and events
There are very few articles, positive or otherwise. In fact most articles we have read in the past month are actually negative.
Gracie, thank you for the kind words and of course you could have said it just as well, just maybe in 1000 fewer words or less as no one can write a long-winded and repititive post belaboring my point like Alsgal can!
Rman, jj, Trixie, and Gracie, we will see them together at the Birthday celebrations next month, if not sooner.
Also, please remember that William and Kate were back on shortly after the April breakup but they were so stealthlike no one had a clue they had gotten back together until quite a while later. So, don’t read too much into not seeing them together right now.
Just because we don’t have photos doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. I’ve never seen a picture of PW eating chili in Mrs. Middleton’s kitchen, but we all know he has.
So, we’ll just have to be patient and not forget Kinloss RAF is only an hour from the cottage at Balmoral.
Where did that article come from?
B
That is just my opinion. Whether correct or incorrect you are right I will never know
But that is what I like to believe, nothing to be taken seriously at all. And the old saying “you can’t please everybody all of the time” holds especially true in Kate case.
I am new to this website I recently stopped commenting on another website as the moderator was a huge snob although very accurate with his view on PW & KM.
B you wouldn’t happen to have another sign on named Trudie on another website would you?
Alsgal
I agree so much goes on that we don’t see. Patience I will pray for!! I think after seeing all of the pieces in the last couple of days that all is well for now… Bring on 2010!
No I don’t jj, and I’m hoping that Trudie is a nice person for you to compare me with her and I do hope that she is not this snob on the other site.
I have nothing against your opinion, nor do I have anything against anyone’s opinion. But I have seen statements such as that brew in to very big debates before and I just wanted to make sure that you were clear with what you meant. It was stated as a fact rather than an opinion and I felt it was misleading, so I bought it up and made clear why that was the case. We do have to be careful on blogs as our words can be misread easily.
But as you have stated that it was just an opinion, no harm no foul.
Here’s a link to another artical. Prince William
Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Coningsby.
http://tinyurl.com/53ad8z
Thanks Rman
Prince Harry,
Honorary Air Commandant Royal Air Force Honington
Not to worry, all! Thanks to my trusty Google map, I’m happy to report RAF Coningsby is only a 177 mile drive from Bucklebury — that’s only 2 1/2 hours.
The latest and yearly poll carried out by Discovery Channel says that within the British population Miss Middleton has a 75 % acceptance. But then, this poll was done for the people in the UK who watch this channel a lot. I merely found out about it, I don’t watch on a daily nor a weekly basis that channel.
You see Me, that’s the problem with these polls. They only sample a very small group of people with oneor more specific interests. I have seen other polls which say the complete opposite and some which are neutral.
Catherine Middleton makes surprise appearance at Conservative Party Conference
By Ingrid Fforbes-Smythe, ‘Princess in Waiting’ Magazine
The “first lady” of British society took the Conservative’s conference by surprise today by taking to the platform just minutes ahead of David “call me Dave” Cameron’s keynote speech.
Breaking with the royal tradition of remaining independent from politics, Catherine won a lengthy ovation from her future subjects, (oops sorry!) delegates.
The unexpected move helped smooth the way for Dave as he sought to see off critics of his style of leadership and set out his vision for the future.
After graciously acknowledging the applause Catherine, dressed soberly in pin-striped mini-suit and matching pin-striped suede boots, praised Cameron’s motivation to work in the “best interests of the nouveau riche”.
She said: “I asked if I could have the chance today to talk briefly to you. One of the privileges of my life over recent years has been the opportunity to meet so many different and extraordinary people during my holidays abroad, visits to nightclubs, and of course my charity work at skating rinks. “These have all been great moments, often private ones, but always meaningful and I thank you all.
“I’m so proud that every day I see Dave motivated to work for the best interests of people all around the country, in particular his new policy of 0% VAT & income tax for mail order catalogue companies in the Berkshire area, and the abolition of all anti me – sorry anti Royal Internet Forums. Remember, its not if, but when he becomes Prime Minister!”
After a brief moment while she brushed away a tear, she then introduced Dave to the packed hall to begin his keynote address.
Arriving on the platform to cheers and applause, Dave kissed her and said: “You can see why I’m proud of our future Queen. I’ll be very proud to be her Prime Minister”
Me, that’s interesting to know but I wonder if anyone has attempted some sort of Gallup poll for various members of the BRF?
The point to remember, is that even if that 75% were against Kate, she’s not running for office, so if she’s well-liked by William, that’s all that will ultimately matter.
I don’t think anyone would claim that the majority of British people liked Camilla, but it didn’t stop her from getting the job.
We are just lucky that William likes her, and that many others can see the great potential she has.
spoof !
Breaking tensions…
Well there is a great deal of the public that like her and think she and William make adorable couple. I find that there’s alot of internet bloggers that think differently. But there is alot to learn about her still and she really got to get herself out there so people can get to know her better. She’s just in the process of doing that.
I mean “spoof” the second me posted, the first one is from DC (Discovery Channel UK)
Like Rman said, I think many are into panic mode both sides.
I would have thought that it would take longer than that alsgal. At an average speed of 60 miles/hour it would take just under 3 hours (3 hours exactly would require it to be 180 miles).
Just checked for you alsgal.
It would take 3 hours and 36 mins. That’s quite a long drive to do regularly. But they have been away before from each other so there shouldn’t be anything to worry about. My own partner is often away for long periods of time as he travels a lot for his business, but we are happy (albeit an incident over the summer).
At least we know “Dave” Cameron is also a fan!
B, I agree with most of what you have stated. Most of us on this blog don’t know Kate, so we have only our opinions based on what we see and read. So what is that your friends don’t like about her that you do? I don’t think the press will die out for Kate even if they were to break up, it might not be as much. Kate is featured in magazines, newspapers and books. She has gone beyond a girlfriend that will fade away in the background. IMO. She will find another man who is important in his own right and still be of interest to the public.
B, just saw your post.
I saw that Google said 3 hours and 36 minutes but I kind of believe the Royals are allowed to drive faster then others, so I’m thinking William can do it in 2 1/2 on the bike.
I think the press will die out if William got a new girlfriend. Look at Koo Stark, we sometimes have an occasional article about her like recently but that occurs once in a blue moon almost.
The only interest Kate has.. (and I don’t want to sound cruel but it is true), the only interest people have in Kate is that she is dating PW.
Gracie: Thanks for agreeing with me on most parts.
But I don’t want to really go into the debate of why my friends don’t like her. I think it could end up rather bitter and I don’t want to start an argument.
Alsgal, Royals are not exempt from the law at all and if one was caught speeding by a police man, he or she would be given a ticket. They are meant to be our represetatives and role models, they have to follow the laws passed. Besides how hypocritical would it be if HM government passed a law which HM signed and then her own grandson went and broke it. Especially the grandson who is 2nd in line to the throne.
B, I agree with you that it is the law and it should be applied equally but does anyone really believe that it is applied equally across the board?
Gracie, I don’t think Kate will find another man as well-known as William because:
a) she’s not going anywhere, she’ll marry PW
b) a lot of very famous men wouldn’t like the thought of having someone’s “reject” and I’m sorry to say that so harshly but look at the losers Diana dated after her divorce. Teddy Forstmann was probably the most “important” staus wise, but supposedly he only wanted to be friends. So make of it what you will.
and d) kate’s not going anywhere, she’ll marry PW
They have that all worked out or is in the process of working that out. I’m sure there will alot of phone calls and writing involved. But that’s not until Jan. William & Kate are not dumb, they know that there is a great deal of people that are behind them and pulling for them. They have come a long way and we have made that journey with them. What really makes them so fascinating is that they are always beating the odds.
B
Alsgal
I definitely agree that the law is now applied across the board in several cases because of who people are. Lets get real here. There was a case not too recently see link below where Harry’s car was speeding and that was swept under the carpet. But they are the royal family and that’s life not something to be bitter about.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/1981230/Prince-Harry%27s-car-%27driven-at-100mph%27.html
I think it would be very hard for Kate to fade into the distance at this point. Not that I think that she is going anywhere but if it were to fall apart the new girl would be constantly compared to kate articles would go on and on and on. Her new many would be hounded and constantly compared to William. I need to do a little research on Koo Stark now sure how far her courtship went.
Thanks, jj. I’m pretty sure all of them have done that, except maybe the Queen.
p.s. B Trudie is very nice she just has at times issues with Kate and Harry.
I think its very obvious that william is choosing to sow his wild oats right now and has “opened” up the relationship with kate. She has accepted this because she loves him and wants to marry him.
Kate is a loyal, discreet, supportive girl and he will forever be greatful to her for that. But lets face it, she is matronly. She tries her best, but she will always have that matron look. William is much better looking than her and there are many, many women better looking than kate. Maybe one will also be loyal, discreet and supportive. William doesnt know if she exists but he does know that he intends to date others and find out.
Kate will be the fall back girl and maybe she will win by default, maybe not. i dont think any of them know.
Interesting, that you would say that Cat. They have this planned out like I said before. Kate is the chosen one and that’s a fact.
Cat
I find your post highly amusing! I’m not sure that William would have time to be sowing his royal oats right now! Between SARF, keeping up with any royal charitable duties, Kate his family and his friends, he is going to be exhausted!!!
There are lots of stunning girls around the world… prettier than Kate & there are also lots of handsome guys around the world more handsome than William! Whether they would be interested in either of these two is another matter altogether!! Relationships as I am sure you know are tricky things and what looks good on the surface (I.e. pretty/stunning girl) doesn’t always equal boyfriend/girlfriend material especially for a prince!
Time will tell what will happen with these two & I’m rooting for them both!
But your opinion is respected Cat.
Here, here jj.
This is a little random but…what happened to the cute little pictures that were on the right side of your comments? There not there anymore:(
I always end up explaining this to someone knew, everyone else here knows my strange and complicated views.
I do not have an issue with Kate and especially not Harry or William. I like Kate as William loves and respects her but because my overall opinion of her in neutral (I like her but don’t mind if William did choose another girl), it means that I can be more cynical of some of her actions (if I reason to be of course), but I can also praise her for all the good things that she has done (charity work, finally working at her parents business etc). You will notice this as you post her but as I do not know any of the people directly it is impossible for me to have an issue with any of them, I just sometimes disagree with their actions whilst being able to still like them as a person.
If William broke the speed limit and did get between the two places within 2.5 hours, his average speed would have to be 70.8 miles/hour (sorry I’m British, I still work with imperial measurements, don’t know what that is in km). That is impossible because a lot of the journey is country lanes where it would be impossible to manage that. Nobody, I repeat nobody is exempt from the law.
Alsgal I hope that b) of your list is not the case for Kate if they ever do break up. That would be so unfair for her and I really would pity her if that did happen.
Hey, the avatars are disabled at the moment, I think it was due to a memory problem, using up the bandwidth maybe.
Hi hey,
The avatars were disabled after the site crashed earlier this year (It wasn’t just the avatars fault – but they weren’t helping…)
I’m looking at giving the website a facelift shortly and will re-enable them then!
Steven
Please – no double speak…..
Who was spiteful?
Who was in a panic?
Thank you!
Looks like Pippa was out last night was escorted home by a red-headed fellow. Is that Billy Nesbitt?
Whoever he was, he didn’t look happy to see the paps. It’s a good thing Pippa shares the same cheerful nature as her sister when it comes to dealing with the press. It takes just as long to smile as to frown!
Alsgal, I noticed that too. From far away the pic looks a littel like Kate and William, just from Pippa posture. The Kate-haters will say Pippa loves the press and the attention too. Harry went to his godfathers funeral- Ward. Tiggy was there as well as Camilla ex, Parker-Bowles. Photos at Rex. What does Pippa man look like?
i went over to Rex features and I couldn’t see the pictures of Pippa and the mystery gentleman? Is there any where else that the pictures are displayed?
http://www.teamhighgrove.com- you have to register to see photos though.
Harry is back from Canada. He attended the funeral of his godfather today together with Charles and Camilla.
http://www.rexfeatures.com/live/2008/10/03/gerald_ward_memorial_service,_berkshire,_britain
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&p=prince%20harry&assetType=image&src=quick
Looks like Pippa left with two men. The red head and there is another guy.
Thanks Gracie!
The red head looks pretty misearble but you are right Pippa I think knows how to play the paparazzi game. Smile!
I wonder who the other guy is? Does Pippa have security now too?
The Countess of Wessex has been appointed Honorary Air Commodore of Royal Air Force Wittering a position last held by Diana, Princess of Wales. The Telegraph reported. I do hope that the next Colonel in Chief of The Princess of Wales Regiment is Kate. The title is now held by the Queen of Denmark.
It sure would be nice to see a photo of Kate and William together!
Gracie, I’m at the Team Highgrove site, the latest is Austria wedding. Where exactly may I see those Pippa pictures ? any other internal link other then the photo link within the Team Highgrove site ?
Other than the PH pics in the funeral dated Oct 03.
Me, hit “photos” then “last uploads.” The current photos are of Harry at funeral, then Pippa photos begin where Harry’s end.
Yeah thanks, I just did, 2 photos
Me, do you know who she is with?
No idea, but the face looks familiar.
I wonder if The Spencers and the Duchess of York is invited to Charles’s birthday party. Somehow they always leave the Duchess of York out. Which is very sad.
Neil Sean says Kate has decided to take media training within the royals cause of her recent “gaffe.”
Gracie who is Neil Sean?
Rman
I think recently she has been invited to more and more events? Didn’t she go to the garter ceremony & get invited to a weekend up at Balmoral?
Maybe baby steps with her? & who knows maybe she doesn’t want to go to some of the events?
I don’t blame her. She really need to learn a lot from them. And from now on, we need to see that more. I have read many people comments on her recent charity event. I think they really want to see more of her being regal, and to have a more Princess in Waiting presence. Visiting hospital’s and other charitable foundations will help her with that. I have to say, she is doing good at not making too many visits to clubs now days. Like many of you and Alsgal, I do hope to see her out soon.
jj, Neil Sean is a entertainment reporter and he often report on the Royal Family.
Yes Rman
I think the right type of charity with CH help could be very good for Kate. But that is the whole point, before she was on her own to muddle through. Now finally (I hope) she is getting some assistance.
I personally don’t know what all of the fuss was about with the roller disco event. So she fell so what?? Whether she fell stood up did a triple back flip or stood still the economy would still have stayed the same. The only thing that she could do to help the economy right now would be to get engaged
Sales would soar for hotels flights etc etc… Not a reason to get engaged but…
Gracie
Could you post a link to the article or video. All I can find is a video from June 2008 which states that Kate needs to revamp her image as she is known as waity katey! I liked the video I did find. It showed Kate as far back as 2006 if I remember correctly being led by Jamie Lowther Pinkerton and being introduced to people at Williams passing out ceremony.
http://www.foxnews.com/video/?playerId=videolandingpage&referralObject=1133672
Quote from jj:
“I think recently she has been invited to more and more events? Didn’t she go to the garter ceremony & get invited to a weekend up at Balmoral?”
The garter ceremony was similar to the Passing out parade in 2006. There were members of the RF and she met them. In 2006, she had lunch with them afterwards. Not much of a difference really except the fact that there was a break up after one which causes the hype the to be forgotten as the break up was the main news last year.
She has been invited up to Balmoral ever since they started going out. PC would invite his girlfriend’s up there after only dating them for a few months. I think going to Balmoral is like a mini break, the sort of thing someone does first of all from transition from spending the night together before they go away on a full blown holiday. Now they just go up because its private, quiet and they like it. I wouldn’t read to much into it if I were you
Cheers for the video btw.
Good night everyone (in my timezone).
Hey B
No I was talking about Fergie attending the Garter ceremony and going to Balmoral for the weekend with Andrew Beatrice and Eugine. I meant being slowly welcomed back into the fold!
Oh I’m sorry jj. I thought you were talking about Kate as it was after a few of the media training comments.
My mistake….sorry
i thinked the hello and the DM website had many similar sources like they copied some of the pics of the party pieces.
Hello Steven,
You probably don’t remember me, but I used to post here before I was literally throne off. I guess I was naughty!
Hallelujah. I have been allowed back on. You are so kind and I must say I always thought you were a perfect gentleman. Your English mum did a very good job and I am sure she is/was very proud of you.
Steven – Either I am goind blind (long story) or I really am out of my league here. ** EDIT **
Would you be so kind as to tell me what happened to the previous posters as they were more my speed? Please read between the lines.
Regards,
Evil-Me
ps I could be wrong or ignorant (or both), but did you have avatars??
** BRW – Hi, I “read between the lines” and decided to edit your comment accordingly… There have only been a few people banned – I don’t know if you were one and I don’t know where the others went, probably to one of the other forums. Yes, we used to have avatars. **
Goodness
The hysteria created by the newish DM article about Beatrice and Eugiene snubbing Pippa is ridiculous. IMO with most families there are problems at some point of some type or another. Just because Beatrice and Kate may not get along or may have had a spat I don’t think it necessarily means that Kate and William have split up.
I have many friends in the military and they are all signed up anywhere between 7 & 9 years this is normal. I believe that Kate is a tough enough cookie to handle the military life especially if it meant finally getting engaged.
If the opposite is true and they have really split then I would think that CH would have announced a split especially given that Kate has really taken a bashing in the press lately..
kate and william -probably terminated their relationship already and the reason why CH hasnt announced this is because of the high publicity it will bring (especially to kate who doesnt have any sort of protection) and CH has probably opted to just pretend that the engagement has been cancelled because william is going to the military and they will let KM vanish slowly and slowly until everyone forgets about it.
KM may as well still be dating PW and probably she is willing to wait for him, but her relationship with william might be threatened as he is going away for around 7yrs(if it is true that he is going to the military for this long) and she is not going to see him that much. In order to maintain a good relationship with your with your partner, you need to be spend time with him/her. if a couple wont spend that much time together, we already know what happens, their love starts fading and they break up or get divorced. The same thing may happen to KM and PW no matter how strong their relationship is.
Or it might be that PW loves KM but probably not enough to marry her.
steven
just curious, how can you prevent people from posting? I mean the same person can change his or her names, and how do you know this is or isnt about the same person?
sonia,the webmaster has access to the IP address of the posters,therefore unless the person is posting from different computers,they know who is who. Steven can confirm this but I believe it it true.
sonia,if William and Kate split,the scenarios you put forth make good sense. I don’t personally believe I have seen any evidence of a split other then internet chatter and tabloid BS but anything is possible.