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Princes William and Harry tease James Bond star – Mirror
Hearing (Daniel) Craig hurt his shoulder while filming, the princes gave him the Royal seal of approval for doing his own stunts. But the movie hardman, who took his arm out of his sling to shake Wills’ hand, replied: “You guys are our true heroes, you do it for real.”…
William and Harry make two-day visit to Cambridge – Cambridge News
Prince William and Prince Harry are on a two-day visit to Cambridge University to meet experts on the global challenges facing society, the News can reveal. The princes are attending a two-day seminar on the social and ecological challenges facing society…
Princess Beatrice’s undercover investigation – Monsters & Critics
Britain’s Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have recorded an undercover TV show. The royal sisters joined their mother -Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York -for the two-part investigation into the conditions of orphanages in Turkey and Romania, which is set to air on ITV’s ‘Tonight’ programme on November 6…
Fergie’s make-up disaster – Daily Mail
Her orange skin was more suited to a Halloween party than a society event. The Duchess of York suffered an unfortunate make-up mishap as she attended the Children in Crisis annual ball with daughter Princess Beatrice at the Old Billingsgate Market in London…
November 1st, 2008 00:11
gracie,
It’s late (or early) an I’ve just got in and can’t get the Rex photographs of the party after the premier.
Did you notice if Isabella was at the party?
Thanks
November 1st, 2008 02:45
Isifa only has the small pic of Holly but that seems to be about the only one from this year’s after party.
Did William and Harry attend? The Sun doesn’t mention them but they don’t mention Holly or Isabella either. I guess if the whole Branson clan was there Isabella would as well as Sam’s date.
November 1st, 2008 04:36
The new article at RA…this guy is an first class jerk. Whether true or not he is using Kate to get traffic and I now find him worse then any tabloid reporter out there. Simple shameful. Link to that site DELETED. Take to you all later this evening.
November 1st, 2008 05:27
One of the news articles said specifically that PW & PH did not attend the after show party
November 1st, 2008 07:04
Ked, Rex has limited photos of afterparty and Holly was the only person who I saw hangs in PW group. I guess its possible that PH,PW could have been at the afterparty, but no photos were allowed of them? I did not see photos of SB or Isabella either. Do you know if SB and Isabella are still together?
November 1st, 2008 07:08
Lisa,and others, post on that site too.(Royal Anecdotes) Say what you mean. This guy wants us to think he has some inside information that he obviously doesnt. And he does what he can, and then some, to support his idea that Kate is gone. This last one is really bad. Infertility being her problem this time!
November 1st, 2008 07:09
Ked, sorry to post again, but have you read RA today? I would be interested to know what your feelings were on the matter.
November 1st, 2008 07:19
I just read the RA and I am totally at a lost for words. Never in a million years would I think a possible breakup would be because of reproductive issues. Of course he does not say tell you who the lady in question is, but I think it can be figured out. If this is true and I say IF, then it will make the RF look bad if this story should come out. Alot of couples have reproductive issues and rumors where that Sophie had IVF, and they manage to have children.
November 1st, 2008 07:45
gracie,
In haste as I’m out for late lunch then on to BBC for Strictly.
I understand SB and IC have been off for several weeks possibly months and been commented on in several articles.
IC was identified, but not positively, as the blond who made a very quick exit when photographers accompanied Paris Hilton at the night club.
I don’t know about RA story but would think that anyone concerned would have known long before now, but who knows.
I did hear that editors had been prompted initially for a June and then September anouncement and were also waiting for something three weeks ago which could be relevant if testing and retesting was in operation.
I think the photographs of KM on mobile may have resulted from over zealous paps hoping to get the first pictures.
Who knows but if RA story is applicable then it is a sad and sorry ending to what was a remarkable and eventful few years.
My comments in last three sentences referring to RA story are obviously speculation and without knowledge.
November 1st, 2008 07:59
Ked, thanks and have fun!
November 1st, 2008 09:14
Hei Wills and spike, where’s your lover guys????? are they so busy until they can’t join with both of you at this premiere movie??
November 1st, 2008 09:31
Isifa has pictures of Isabella and Sam together at a movie premiere September 24 so at least until then they still were a couple.
I think the blond William talked to is the woman in this picture. She doesn’t look familiar.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee244/allies_photo_album/Random/5523698.jpg
The paps know Isabella and would have identified her, had she been at the farwell party when Kate wasn’t. That would have been THE story. I don’t think they would call her a “mystery woman”. After all she has been linked to William for ages.
Btw. did the Bransons manage to break the world record sailing across the Atlantic?
November 1st, 2008 15:08
Guys what is going on at RA is quite simple. Kate Middleton is a huge traffic producer,and now she is gone from the media. Hence the traffic has fallen off. What has gone on there over the last few weeks is far worse then any campaign or comments made by any Kate haters at IF. First I believe that this blogger is coming up with unsubstantiated stories to back up his previous ones and to generate traffic. I have no idea what kind of response he has had today because I have visited that site for the last time and I hope the intelligent posters who visit there on a regular basis will look hard at what they are reading and make their own judgements and decisions. Secondly,I think the site is being fed by a tabloid reporter and I would bet a weeks salary that Katie Nicholl is the culprut. As for the content of the “story”, I refuse to comment on it specifically because it is so vile it does not deserve comment. It was done with malice and the intend to stir up traffic on his site and others and I am sure the tactic worked. To end my rant,I will say that as much as I love the internet and this wonderful age of information,this is one of those times when you realize there is such a thing as Too much Information.
November 1st, 2008 15:10
Pippa tops Tatlers “most eligable” list. Tatler at least seems convinced her sister is going to be royal in the future. The accompanying DM article is snarky as always…
http://tinyurl.com/5clflj
November 1st, 2008 15:13
me too, just to clarify,there is a Lisa that posts at RA but it is not me.:)
November 1st, 2008 15:16
Lisa, I agree. It’s one thing to say they have broken up, but then blame it on something that is very personal if at all true. RA is treading a fine line printing something like that and they had better have the proof to back up those claims if the time arises!
November 1st, 2008 15:16
Great post, lisa. I used to read RA simply because it wasn’t the constant negative harping against Will and Kate but ever since John posted that Katie Nicholls piece as his own story without citing his quote, I simply don’t bother anymore.
November 1st, 2008 15:45
Trixie,can you tell how utterly disgusted I have become? I hate to come off as sounding over the top but as I have said many times in the past,these are real people, not fictional characters. Bloggers and posters alike often forget that fact. Like the rest of us,I have no idea what the outcome of Kate and William’s relationship will be. All the gossip aside,I still see them headed down the isle,but my hair stands on ends when people write stuff that have no business knowing and less sharing. Some people should take a page from Kate’s book and start practicing dignified silence.
November 1st, 2008 18:26
Hi My Fellow Royalist. I’m back from vacation. So what’s been going on in the royal world?
November 1st, 2008 18:54
I think this artical explain some things.
http://tinyurl.com/6gf879
November 1st, 2008 19:57
Rman,welcome back! Thanks for the link. Not sure I believe the content but at least they are not calling for a breakup.
November 1st, 2008 20:27
Thanks Rman for that link.
At last, some reassurance that Kate will indeed be at Highgrove as we’ve hoped and my no-room-for-a-postage-stamp whilst dancing together theory will come true!
I am getting quite the feeling that each time William steps over the line (I am thinking based on this article there may have been a tiff over William’s decision to accept the SAR training, as Kate knows how much effort SHE will have to make to keep the relationship going by driving, driving, and then driving some more to wherever PW will be) but it sounds like they’ve taken their break, and are once together, in love like never before.
It does seem we hear rumours that each time there is a wobble, they may not speak for a week or two, but then Kate puts him firmly in his place. Good to see that a Royal Prince is getting bossed around a bit, what a refreshing change!
November 1st, 2008 20:37
Rman, how rude of me! How was your vacation?
November 1st, 2008 20:54
Yeah she does have a way of putting him in his place. I just hope to see them soon. This wait is killing me.
Lisa thank you for asking about my vacation. It was wonderful. My family and I went up to Washington to visit some family members and we went walking around the D.C area. We stopped by The White House and I did a little prayer that we send Barack to The White House in a couple of days. I had a wonderful time.
November 1st, 2008 22:58
This is awesome news! I’m so glad there is finally news. I did think it was weird that at the end of the article Katie Nicholl says that the wobble was over her falling. There have been worse pictures of Harry falling but whatever they are still together that is all I’m concerned about.
November 1st, 2008 23:05
I agree jj this is wonderful to finally hear something.
But for some reason I just don’t think PW would have been upset by Kate falling over at a charity event — that would be silly.
I could more easily believe the angle that Kate thought, jeez, another 18 months and “I hope at least he’s going to buy me a gas card for Christmas” because she will have to spend a lot of time on the road to get all the way to north Scotland or north Wales.
But still it’s good news.
November 1st, 2008 23:25
Regarding the wobble, I heard somewhare that there was a row between Kate and Beatrice. This occurred at the Roller Skating charity event. Apparently Bea arrived late because she had not been properly invited or something to that effect. Then, she supposedly made fun of Kate all night long.
A few evenings later, Pippa was not welcome to sit with the Yorkees at another event and had to sit somewhere else.
The story goes that apparently Bea is somewhat “jealous” of Kate. I use the term jealous without really any malice. Bea apparently thinks that Kate is in a hurry to become the Princess. This would certainly remove the yorks from the top Royal princesses of their generation, wouldn’t it. So, the story continues that Bea is determined to give Kate a hard time. It seems that William, who is fond of her cousing, was thorn between the two girls, and Kate did not like that.
So, this thing combined with the news that PW would devote the next 3 to 4 years in the military, then it would be clear that there was some sort of a wobble.
Anyway, that’s a possibility for not seeing Kate lattely, isn’t it?
November 1st, 2008 23:45
Carla, my feeling is that it was just an attempt to start a cat fight storyline which sells papers — didn’t work w/ me because I know that all of PW’s family are crazy for Kate.
In exciting election news, I see that Rahm Emanuel is being considered for Obama’s chief of staff — this is great, because he was a former investment banker at Dresdner Kleinwort, so he probably knows first hand about all this banking mess and how to put an end to the greed on Wall Street — he should know, since he only made $ 18 million, which is nothing by Wall Street standards. Go Rahm!
November 1st, 2008 23:45
Yes a gas card is definitely needed Alsgal!!! Who knows maybe she has one of those Shell type things that she can just charge
November 2nd, 2008 00:07
there must be more things involved for not seeing kate around. I dont think that just because bea is jealous there are problems b/ KM and PW, this could certainly be one of the things, but not everything. There is more.
I never believed that there would be an engagement b/ PW and KM. Now, I am more certain about it. It is obvious that PW is lagging on marriage. If he really wanted to marry KM, then he wouldnt be lagging on her the way he is doing.
He hasnt made up his mind toward her, and it has even been reported that he has even asked PC for advises, which means that he is very undecided. If he is undecided, then there must be a reason for it, dont you think so…?
I believe that PW has opted for low profile break up. KM has started to work for her parents, and probably moved to another place(that’s why we havent seen her around), and PW has opted to join the military. He probably hasnt announced a break up because of the high publicity it will bring and has opted to use the military career as an excuse not to get marry and to shut up the people while he’s in the army.
At the end, when he finishes his military(within 7 yrs) people will have forgotten about his relationship with KM.
November 2nd, 2008 00:20
Hello,
I’m tired and going to bed.
But…
How often have we derided KN for her for getting her guesse wrong yet now because she has given us some” news” that gives us hope we are happy to go along with her “prophecies”.
I say let’s just wait a few extra days and get the truth. We hope this time (1 in many) she’s correct but historically there is more reason to believe she is wrong.
Rman, please don;t get too enthusiastic on this report alone. KN’s let us down so many times in the past so do no more than hope she may this time have guessed correctly.
Having had longer to think about JE’s despicable attempt to save his site I regret having commented earlier, in haste, about his conclusions.
Watch strictly tonight!
Nigh night (Morning morning)
November 2nd, 2008 00:24
Sorry people,
Just noticed. Another helicopter tragedy out of the blue.
Someone in CH/BP should be very worried.
First PW now PH ! Odds increasing all the time
Wish HM would step in
November 2nd, 2008 02:16
I am also sceptical about Katie Nicholls information. As much as I would like to believe Kate was invited to Highgrove, I wouldn’t take Katie Nicholl’s word for it. What was the last accurate information we got of her? So we’ll have to wait and see (or rather hear since I doubt we’ll get pictures from the Highrove party).
It have actually only been about 8 weeks since the Austrian wedding but KN has proven before that she can’t count. And while the roller disco pictures and subsequent articles were undoubtedly embarassing for Kate, I do not see why William should have been angry about it or why that should have caused a “wobble” in their relationship.
To me this just sounds like a typical tabloidish explanation for lack of news.
However it seems that whatever kept them from mentioning her name for about 2 weeks is over now. First the (very nasty) article about Pippa making No. 1 in Tatler and now this…
November 2nd, 2008 04:03
Trixie,
Haven’t read the Tatler article but was it actually nasty about KM or just written in a nasty ‘rivally’ way?
I think what is most unusual is the apparent lack of contact between KM and PM over the past weeks.
I can’t recall a single mention of their being together at home or out and about and it is at times like this that KM connects very much with her sister.
Most unusual unless PM has decided she must do her own thing without the constant reference to her sister.
November 2nd, 2008 04:24
From what I gather from the Daily Mail article (I haven’t read the Tatler article either), Tatler basically made snide remarks about Pippa’s middleclass background such as “‘Goes to a lot of parties, but mainly as the caterer.’”
The Daily Mail added: “The younger half of the duo dubbed ‘the wisteria sisters’ – highly decorative, terribly fragrant and with a ferocious ability to climb – landed the coveted top spot in Tatler’s annual list of the country’s most desirable singletons, even though her family have often been derided for being too middle-class.”
So it’s not being nasty regarding Kate or Pippa as people but more towards their social standing. However I don’t quite understand why Tatler puts Pippa on Number one spot when they apparently think she doesn’t even belong in “high society”. They could have left her out of the list after all…
November 2nd, 2008 05:00
It really amazes me how one or two sentences from a tabloid reporter can turn into novels of opinions as to the lives of William and Kate. If we stick to the facts and Kate appears at the parties,we can assume that things are on track as before. As far as this supposed ‘row” over the roller disco, I highly doubt anyone close enough to William and Kate would communicate such a private thing to Katie Nicholl. Rona Barrett is shopping the forums for her stuff again. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
I am hoping for pictures from the parties, I really want to see what Kate wears!
November 2nd, 2008 05:36
lisa,
Don’t hold your breath.
KM has been played down over the past two months in an apparent effort to reduce and eliminate engagement and marriage speculation whatever the true position is.
With PW due to start with S and R in January and what looks like a full schedule of military and constitutional duties over the next 6 weeks
it would be completely counter productive if KM were to appear on PW’s arm at anything approaching a public event for perhaps up to a year or maybe longer.
Assuming that they are still “an item” I am sure there are sufficient country house parties in the UK to accommodate their assignments from
‘ now until eternity ‘ and enough personal friends to be relied upon to hold their tongue and pockets until PW/KM decide the time is right.
Any other activity would give rise to the “on”
“off” sequence we have had over the past years and that is counter productive to their eventual happines. This I believe to be the new CH mandarin’s strategy aimed at taking the pressure off KM in particular and helping PW settle into his chosen career.
It has obviously been decided, which ever way their relationship in moving that we , the public, do not need to know the intricate details which will only be resolved when that little bit of paper is surreptitiously dropped outside the gate at BP.
We may speculate all we like but can have no influence on the eventual outcome so grin and bear it.
.
November 2nd, 2008 05:56
Kate will only be at the Highgrove party, I’m sure. She won’t be at BP with all the royalty from all over Europe and politicians and other biggies.
November 2nd, 2008 07:42
PW looks great in his attire. sad for princess beatrice.
November 2nd, 2008 08:58
Ked, are you possibly suggesting a fall out between KM and PM? If so what would be the cause? Please elaborate more on IC and if you see her playing a bigger role in PW future. I was under the impression that she was not interested in him, but I suppose things happen and feelings change.
November 2nd, 2008 09:29
Please no. I hope IC is the last person to get anywhere near William should he really break up with Kate. She is already milking the marginal link she has to William for all the PR it’s worth – and yet her “career” hasn’t kicked off. I can only imagine what they would turn out like if she was his g/f *shudder*…
November 2nd, 2008 09:42
That’s is why I am surprised that Ked mentioned her. There has been no public announcement of IC and Sam splitting. I would think KN would love that juicy tidbit if true. IC wants to make sure she is not aligned w/PW, but he is brought up in her print interviews.
November 2nd, 2008 10:11
Isabella a beautiful girl but a bit of a used car when it comes to potential Royal brides –too many miles and too many drivers.
On the off chance PW doesn’t eventually get around to marrying Kate, and that is only a 2 % chance I would bet, then I believe William, maybe at 30 or even 35, will pick a young, unknown Duke’s daughter or such.
November 2nd, 2008 10:23
I’m just waiting for a W&K sighting. I’m not worried about IC and nobody else because that will cause the most dumbest speculation.
November 2nd, 2008 11:13
What’s in Tatler Magazine about W&K?
November 2nd, 2008 11:25
Alsgal, I agree with you. If you look at the age most princes marry, it’s usually in their 30’s. So if the same can be said for PW, then I too think he will marry a woman younger than himself. I also think IC is 3yrs older than PW. I wonder how the RF feels about PM being in Tatler?
November 2nd, 2008 11:43
Well PM is a good looking girl so I’m not surprised to see in Tatler, but I just want this Blackout to end because it’s causing some speculation.
November 2nd, 2008 11:57
Hi Gracie and Rman
I get the feeling the BRF wouldn’t mind Pippa being on the Tatler eligibles list, especially as it does apparently state that she is working hard as a caterer. I thought she was very much together with Billy the Scottish drummer, though?
Was there any mention of dear James M. on the list as well? He is quite a catch in my book, and I haven’t heard of him linked with anyone lately.
And at least Tatler is still implying that Kate is off the market, so that is happy, happy news there.
Rman, I was also wondering what the Tatler cover was implying on the cover “Kate and William in Bed” — what? Frankly, I thought Tatler was a magazine for nice people, with friendly articles, but that is even too risque for me.
November 2nd, 2008 12:00
What? Tatler has that on their cover?
November 2nd, 2008 12:04
Gracie, all I can see is this over:
http://www.tatler.co.uk/
November 2nd, 2008 12:16
Hello,
gracie, It was mentioned to me in passing that whenever Km is ‘on her own’ then she has always turned to her family , PM in particular, and certain friends mainly TvS. She just hasn’t been seen and I am not certain that she is at PP either.
Perhaps, and this is a longshot, she has injured her back and may be getting treatment but I don’t know. I’m in and about Reading three or four times a week but have not sighted at lunch times or heard anything .
That in itself is very unusual as lots of my friends and contacts now know I sometimes procrastinate on here and usualy have something to say.
As far as IC is concerned I am certain that she is not a long term partner but is never very far away whenever PW is active. Like HB she stays very close and, possibly uses her connection to attract directors.
She does however have a very striking and beautiful sister who has over the past months been included in her sister’s company. I think I did read somewhere that IC and her toy boy SM have split up but can’t remember the connection.
November 2nd, 2008 12:45
I hope Kate isn’t ill. She looked fine driving her car two weeks ago.It is indeed strange that all news on her seems to have dried up but I think if she underwent some medical treatment we’d have heard about that, too. After all we were also informed about Chelsy’s appendix surgery and her wisdom tooth removed.
That sounds like the Calthorpes are another aristocratic family trying to sell a daughter to the crown and when the elder one doesn’t manage the younger one has to skip in – and some of these people probably have the nerve to call the Middletons social climbers – disgusting! To imagine that you are surrounded by people like that from the day when you’re born as heir to the throne, it speaks volumes of William’s character that he has stayed clear off this aristo set and the “brides” undoubtedly “offered” to him…
November 2nd, 2008 13:05
Alsgal: What do you mean that IC has had too many drivers and too many miles? I have only heard of her having one boyfriend.
BTW gracie: IC was born in 1980, so 2 years older than William, so you were right it was about 3 years.
The Calthorpes are not trying to sell their daughter to the crown at all. They may name drop at times but that is hardly a crime. I know that I was encouraged by teachers and advisors to name drop when I was going for interviews anywhere. Admittedly, I would be name dropping successful businessmen, top lawyers etc. but for IC’s profession it would be more appropriate for her to name drop PW than the name of her lawyer. Besides, I have read of her name dropping only a few times in several years.
I have also never read anything to suggest that Gabriella (little sister) has name dropped at all or is being pushed towards PW. In fact I never read anything about GC. She is rarely mentioned and has not done an interview which I can recall.
They are not social climbers and I do not think it is fair to accuse one person of being a social climber when you think dislike other people accusing someone else of being so.
November 2nd, 2008 13:18
Trixie,
I have noticed that several people, as you state above,have a certain view of PW.
Please be assured, all is not as it seems.
It is difficult to find any contemporary or colleague who has endorsed him . I recall one young female RAF officer with stars in her eyes at the wings ceremony but most come from his senior officers or commanders. I don’t recall any others.
Compare that with the unstinted comments that are bestowed upon PH mainly by junior rankers.
November 2nd, 2008 14:21
I don’t think Kate is ill but just laying low for awhile. I have read some other blogs and they seem to think that CH pushed her to aside to make PW look better, which is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I think she is working hard at PP and waiting for a big event to be seen. I do recognize that everytime W&K is not seen together in awhile people start bringing up the names of his old girlfriends or names of his rumored girlfriends or say that the relationship is on rocks. But everyone is waiting for a sighting and to see what is going to happen. But I have to admit, I do miss seeing her.
November 2nd, 2008 14:43
If IC was born in 1980, then she’s 28 and has been with Sam for what, three years? B, do you think Isabella didn’t have a boyfriend before she was 25?
That would be amazing IMO as she is:
a) very attractive
b) worksin an industry where bed hopping is “normal”
c) comes from a family with multiple marriages and partners, which indicates a degree of casualness towards such things
which may mean something or may mean nothing. But I’d be shocked if Isabella had only had one or two beaus by this age. Seriously.
KM, of course, is rumoured to have had two prior boyfriends, Rupert Finch and Willem Marx, so she was not a virgin either but her living with PW caused even James Whitaker to speculate if she would be suitable, and that some at BP had considered KM too be a “bit loose with her favors.”
So I guess the double standard of women being considered loose for doing what a man is praised for: “awww, ain’t he a red blooded bloke” just goes to show how things really haven’t changed.
As long as there are no scruffy types in a Royal bride’s past who will sell details of their sex life, then I would think a non-virgin is OK, although I still believe a girl without a past, or a verrry discreet one is probably preferred by all at BP, at least in the case of PW.
November 2nd, 2008 15:03
btw the new article in the Sunday Express warrants a hearty Congratulations to Kate for a job well done!! Whoo hoo, Kate!
She apparently landed several top accounts (Harry Potter, Winnie the Poop) and her parents have, justifiably, promoted her to Business Manager. I think it’s terrific that Kate is throwing herself into this with such enthusiasm and is showing the stamina she will need as Queen (unless one is married to a Prince named Charles.)
Also noticed at the end of the article that Kate is sharing an office with James, who AH at the Express said was sharing an office. Now that sounds like fun.
If only they could get Pippa on board, they could have everyone under the same roof. That would = success to the third power for sure!
November 2nd, 2008 15:15
I know that she would have had other boyfriends, in fact I would expect her to. But none of them have been public and she has been very discreet. This is the 21st century and we don’t criticize anyone for dating and sleeping with their boyfriend. If they are in a loving, secure relationship that is fine.
Kate wasn’t a virgin, or I doubt she was but I have no problem with that and no newspaper has made a big fuss about it (that I remember). In modern times it would be unfair to expect a 28 year old woman to have no experience at all and for Kate when she was 22.
I had not heard any speculation or rumours that BP thought that Kate was too loose with her favours at all. What sort of date/year would that be from? I just want to have a quick look back over some archives to see.
I agree that it does not matter if PW’s future bride is not a virgin and I doubt the public would really care these days as long as she had not been too loose with her favours.
I’m not suggesting that I want IC to marry PW btw, because I don’t. I just don’t think that she could be considered to be loose just because she has had a serious relationship. She is discreet still after all.
Do you have a link to the SE article alsgal?
To be sarcastic over your comment over Kate’s stamina, she has had 3 years to build that stamina and strength up and it took her long enough to put it to good use. She is doing the same amount of work as most women in their late 20s, in fact many in serious professions have to work longer hours. I can’t credit her over something she should have been doing several years ago. Sorry about that.
November 2nd, 2008 15:31
Well she did, longer then others, but she is actually. So better late then never
PS: When she finally does something late or soon, she is required by the posters to be much better and fast. I wonder if such demanding posters practice the same thoughts in their own lives, perhaps they do ! But maybe not.
November 2nd, 2008 15:31
Which article are you talking about alsgal? I couldn’t find a recent one online.
B, I was answering to ked’s comment that Isabella “kept close” to William and brought her little sister along. My comment was made assuming that this was true. It sounds a lot like what the Spencers did in the late 70’s/early 80’s. First Sarah and when she messed up young, virginal Diana…Diana herself even said she tried to set up Sarah and Charles and I am pretty sure she wasn’t the only one in her family doing so.
Of course neither of us knows what’s going on and I am very sure the Calthorps wouldn’t be all over the papers telling everyone that they try to hook up their daughters. However it IS odd that pretty much the only “society name” regularly dropped regarding a “suitable bride” for William is Isabella and she’s not even a friend like Holly Branson.
I agree though that for the question who is suitable and who is not the past relationships of the woman shouldn’t play a role. I guess it would be almost impossible nowadays to find a woman of age who is still a virgin and yet mature and “rounded” enough as a person to cope with Royal life.
And since it would be best for the woman in question to experience at least 2-3 years of relationship with her future husband, she will most certainly not be a virgin anymore at her wedding day …
November 2nd, 2008 15:45
B, I understand, and as you are both a hard worker and a Mum, I’d imagine that Kate finally working a 40 hour week is not exactly going to knock your socks off!
But I think it’s tremendous that at Party Pieces, unlike at Jigsaw, we aren’t hearing any tales from colleagues of Kate not pitching in or only showing up three days a week, and instead have really heard some neat, positive things about her being so hard working.
B, it was a James Whitaker quote about the “too loose with her favors” but it was from another site a few years back, which I dare not mention as I no longer post there.
I have one theory why someone as high profile and lovely as IC would never be allowed to marry PW: Charles and Camilla.
Simply, that William’s wife will be attractively plain, simple and non-threatening, so she will not upstage anyone. Sorry but Isabella is just too vivacious, and sometimes even I am concerned that Kate M. is showing too much shazzle dazzle star power.
I truly believe the BRF do not want another Diana who will steal their thunder.
November 2nd, 2008 15:47
There is a copy of the article on the RT website. It doesn’t say anything really at all. Only that she has been involved in a lot of projects (we knew that already, however some of the projects listed were already taking place/completed before Kate began working there), it says she has taken some ICT courses (I should hope so if she is using computers, every person has to do some on the job training), and that she has been promoted to
Business Manager (well we have only heard of her being that role from the beginning so I guess it is a sort of promotion from photographing cupcakes to business manager).
Okay Trixie, I understand you now. I think she is mentioned a lot though because she is one of the only single women of his age, who is pretty and of a good background with no scandal. I don’t think that they are trying to get their daughter to marry PW though, there has never been any hint that they are.
I don’t think the public would mind if William did not marry a virgin or someone who had been a virgin when they started dating as long as he really really really loved her. That would be enough for everyone or should be enough.
November 2nd, 2008 15:51
I see your point alsgal, it is an improvement but unfortunately it is a bit too late now for me. I will always respect and like Kate because William likes her but she has stopped me from being a big fan because of her lack of work for the past few years.
Good points about the IC issue. I also get the feeling that IC is much more lively than Kate and IC is very pretty as well. Luckily for them she has never made a sign that she wants to date PW at all.
Thanks for the info about the James Whitaker comment, I think I know which forum you mean so I will hunt around for it. Any idea of the time period I should look in?
November 2nd, 2008 16:00
None of that stuff matters anymore and I hate when people make a big deal about someone being a virgin or non-virgin. The last time anything like that was brought up was when Charles go involved with Diana. That idea is now long gone. The royal family really likes Kate for who she is and I’m sure the same thing can be said of Chelsy.
November 2nd, 2008 16:02
Exactly Rman. I know that I get upset when my partner’s family disapproves of me because I am a Mum but am not married (they are strong catholics though), so I would hate to feel how Kate and Chelsy feel having this discussed so publicly.
November 2nd, 2008 16:04
I would imagine that IF KM and PW are over, that most of his friends would no longer be her friends. I hope that there are a few that would continue to be friends with KM anyway as I don’t think it will be easy sailing after a break. If there is no press ban, then Kate should be free to move around, but she has not. Why?
Ked, would GC be a contender with all the modeling she has done? Would the RF find that to be distasteful? What have you heard about PL, is she in the picture?
November 2nd, 2008 16:07
Congrats to Kate and I’m glad that she is working hard at PP. I think it also explain why we haven’t seen her in awhile. The girl is busy. It also goes to show that she is serious about what she’s doing.
November 2nd, 2008 16:07
I don’t think GC has done any provocative modelling, just commerical stuff.
Is PL peyton whatshername?
I think if there was a press ban, we would not hear of her movements anyway. If there is not, she would want to keep quiet if they have broken up and would want her privacy.
November 2nd, 2008 16:10
Sorry B, but my senior moments, gin consumption and even a dash of stupidity prevent me from recalling when exactly, but maybe 2005/2006? Yep, THAT should narrow it down, wish I could help more.
I agree with you all on the whole virginity issue. I don’t give a rat’s myself, but all those 70 year old Grey Men at the Palace probably have Madonna/Whore complexes of the first order, and I’ll bet they assume others feel the same.
If W&K don’t get married, then I suspect we’ll get a real mouse who won’t shatter anyone’s fragile ego, and who is dumb or complacent enough to tolerate if and when PW decides he needs a side of sauce.
November 2nd, 2008 16:12
Gracie I’m sure we will see her and William soon. I just think she has been busy and not really into the clubbing scene right now.
November 2nd, 2008 16:15
Alsgal do you still have your fingers crossed that we will see them soon?
November 2nd, 2008 16:35
Rman: She hasn’t been clubbing for ages really and we would only get pics of her if she was in London so there is no surprise we have not got any if she is not in London.
That’s okay alsgal, I’ll have a good search tomorrow when I am awake if I remember to.
Your comment about PW’s next wife if he does not marry Kate has left me wondering. Two things actually (I know big step there, I’ll try not to strain myself
):
a) What makes you say that alsgal?
b) This is to everyone: who do you think you, the public and the media will receive another girlfriend if PW and Kate break up? Do you think you, the public or the media will be angry that Kate and PW did not work out? Resentful to the other woman? Annoyed? Will she be liked or disliked because of PW’s relationship with Kate? All in all, how do you think PW’s public relationship with Kate would affect the opinion of another girlfriend if he broke up with Kate?
November 2nd, 2008 16:41
Hello,
Not sure we should be talking about some things on here but as we are, ‘ people in glass houses should never throw stones it be in the 40’s; 50’s ; 60’s; 70’s or 80’s ‘ and ‘ what’s good for the goose is good for the gander ‘ or words to that effect.
I haven’t seen the article where KM has been made Business Manager at PP. If she has and it’s a credible promotion, Managers are not appointed for months but for years subject usually to results and performance.
KM obviously performs well in their business environment so can look forward to many years of successful management.
Isn’t that telling us something when considered together with the reported estimate of PW
S and R service ?
IT’S getting rather obvious without exactly saying IT.
Agreed ?
November 2nd, 2008 16:41
I think any “new” woman would not only be compared to Diana but also to Kate especially if William stays with his “type” and starts dating another brunette. At the beginning this may be rather annoying for her. She may even be called a Kate “surrogate”.
However, I think the public would be neutral to positive in the beginning. Why would they not be? Unless the woman had anything to do with W&K breaking up noone would have a reason not to like her. Eventually her image will be determined by what she does and how William acts towards her. If he appears obviously in love (though he doesn’t seem to be the type) people will be very sympathetic, I think.
November 2nd, 2008 16:48
ked…you’ve lost me completely on both points. First what do you mean about people in glass houses and second are you doubting the promotion and it’s validity?
Thanks Trixie. Interesting views, it is something that I have wondered recently. I wonder if some of the people who are huge fans of Kate would dislike any new girl because she took Kate’s place and I wonder if anyone who does not like Kate would like her just for the fact that she is not Kate.
I could see some of the public criticizing any new girl a lot because many people were so sure that William and Kate would marry.
November 2nd, 2008 16:57
Ked, I think that you could read that news story either way. You could think what you suggest that the article is suggesting that she has been promoted & she is therefore at PP to stay or alternatively the article could just be to remind us that she is working and that actually she is rather good at it.
To be honest, I have no clue now which way this is going to go but by Kate staying hidden & now an article about her working it suggests to me that they (KN & PW) are still together. If they were over there would be no reason for this behaviour.
By the way, people have been flabagasted about Kate falling over & showing too much. If that is the case what do they think about Prince Philip then – I think that he showed alot more
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/57053/Weeeee-are-not-amused/
November 2nd, 2008 17:00
B,
Sorry.
Second point first.
I do not doubt validity of KM’s promotion , in fact I applaud it if she has performed.
My point is that if a manager is promoted then it’s reasonable to expect several years service from that manager. Point agreed ?
First point.
No detail please but if a family expect a certain standard prior to accepting partners into that family, then others should expect to get that same standard in reverse.
November 2nd, 2008 17:02
I agree, H. This story itself doesn’t answer any question really. If our time line of 18 months till an engagement is about right, it would make sense for Kate to take on a prominent role in the management of PP.After all there are only so many pictures of party ware she can take. The story also mentions that her and James share an office so I think James is being groomed as the “heir” of the family business and Kate may be helping him till he has found his way. She could also learn many skills also valuable to administer royal estates.
OMG, is there really a picture of Philip’s “act”?
November 2nd, 2008 17:02
Yesc the media will compare her to Kate but they will learn to like her. If that happens which I highly doubt. Ked, W&K seem to be continuing the relationship and getting down to work which is one of the reasons why they spent so much time together this year, they just didn’t waste time. It’s just hard for us because we are so use to seeing them together a lot. But there are periods that they have disappeared for awhile and then reappear later. Who knows, we may see them joining the shooting party at Sandringham. I remember late last year, we didn’t see them for awhile then they suddenly showed up at Windsor for a shoot. Although I do hope to see them out soon, right now they are just simply busy.
November 2nd, 2008 17:08
Trixie, if there’s a 18 month wait, then it will start to make sense.
November 2nd, 2008 17:41
If William and Kate do not marry,I think one of two things will happen. Either it will be a very long time(years) before we see William in another serious relationship, let alone marry or he will marry somewhat quickly in a quasi arrangement to a well bred,but unknown girl so he can produce an heir. The reason I feel this way be because of Williams obvious issues with trust. I believe there are many reasons why he has stayed with Kate all these years and loyality and trust are close to the top of the list. As far as the public reaction…it depends on when it happens. If it is quick, it will be a long road for whoever the lucky gal is. A longer wait will allow people to forget Kate and make the transition easier.
November 2nd, 2008 18:07
Lisa, I agree with you completely about the quasi arrangement (but please no stunners who will show up Charles or Camilla
) being possible if William decides to pass on Kate, although I don’t see it being soon, maybe more like 3-5 years time because I don’t see much pressure on PW until after he turns thirty.
The difference being, there is/was pressure on PW last year to marry Kate, but without Kate in the picture, I think most people won’t mind if he dates around a bit, particularly if it’s discreet, so I actually think the marriage pressure would go away.
Last year, it seemed a completely different story for KM popularity wise, but after the trashing Kate has taken in the press I think most are more neutral at the moment than positive. Sorry, but that’s the media for you.
As much as I ADORE Kate, and yes, dear Rman, I do have my fingers crossed
if PW decides she’s not the one, then that’s fine, too. I just hope it’s someone with the initial “C” what with my personalised lawnchair and all.
I’d only hope Kate finds a really nice guy, and that they would be very happy.
I’d also bet PW, like a lot of guys, would have a few rebound floozies, and then we’d see a serious relationship in a year or two. I think the public would be OK with that, esp. if Kate is paired off w/ Lord Snotnose and New Future Queen material is hardworking, sweet, charity driven, and pleasant.
November 2nd, 2008 18:49
Again, I have not seen one factual item that leads me to the conclusion that William and Kate are not together,have had a fight or will not marry soon. It’s just how I see it. The RAF commitment does not make me think his future with Kate is in doubt. Mr PR guy has done a good job of taking the soap opera reporting away and that is how it should be. I think from now on the only reports/articles we will see regarding William and Kate will be official ones leading up to the announcement. I think a plan is in place and Kate is now under the wing of CH and we will continue to see these changes develop. Hang in there!
November 2nd, 2008 19:14
Lisa, I am with you. I can’t see them not being together. I truly believe that he would not have spent all that time with her if he really did not love her. I would like to think that she is now under the wing of CH. I keep thinking about the news articles about Kate getting job. Most of the articles said that William should not announce an engagement until Kate got a job. Doesn’t that presuppose that there is going to be an engagement? Maybe, I am just hoping for them. I just think that they do love each other. If they didn’t. I don’t think they would be together. Maybe, I am wrong.
I do hope that they will be good to each other.
I admire her for sticking with the relationship despite the bad press. I hope that he will stand up for her. With the article by the Express, we at least know that she is alright.
November 2nd, 2008 19:22
Lisa, you took the words right out of my mouth. I have been trying to tell everyone on here to hang on. I really think that they have a plan and they are doing things more differently. I have a feeling that they came up with something while they was on their vacation. They are working towards their goal and yes things may be a little dry right now but William & Kate somehow let us know that there are more great things to come. They gave us a taste of it this year. It was a beautiful to see her supporting him at The Garter service. A event that some thought she couldn’t get near to, she was there by his side. And when he was away, she attended his family events acting every bit like a future wife. They have taken things to another level and we all went crazy over it. The last event we saw them together is at a friends wedding and William & Kate looked happy has ever. Ladies and Gentleman, we haven’t seen the last of them. So the speculation may continue but the only ones that can put a end to it is William & Kate. Like you said Lisa, HANG ON!!!
November 2nd, 2008 19:33
It actually occurred to me that one of the things that may be going on with Kate right now besides a PR makeover is a physical makeover too. It will be interesting to see if her “look” changes at all once she reappears. If she seems to be shined up a bit,I think we can draw some reasonable conclusions. Maybe my cup is a bit better then half full, but I fully expect an announcement soonish..
November 2nd, 2008 22:12
Lisa, I hope you and Rman are right but I don’t think I can take a third Christmas without an announcement, so I am trying to hope for the best and prepare myself mentally for the worst.
November 3rd, 2008 00:07
I agree
I think if they did break up the new girl would be compared to Kate and Diana but the media are fickle and marriage hungry. Eventually they really wouldn’t care who she was as long as there was someone to build up for the fairy tale wedding.
I agree with Alsgal’s description if they don’t make it the new girl will proably be very plain but “nice looking” brunette.
Regardless if they don’t make it I would wish Kate the best. Even though I don’t know the girl I like what I see. I’m rooting for them both & I guess we will find out sooner or later how this will all play out.
November 3rd, 2008 00:31
True jj, something should come to light soon. But it must not be easy for them, the minute they are not seen together in awhile people start to think that they are over or about to be over. I don’t know how they deal with that. I guess they just ignore it. I personally would get tierd of reading bad things about my relationship. They really seem to be taking a new approach to this by letting the bad press die down, which it has. I do hope they show up somewhere soon though.
November 3rd, 2008 01:46
Lisa is right that we have not seen anything to suggest that they will break up soon or will not marry but then we have not seen anything which says that they will, so we are a bit lost really.
Thanks ked for the explanation.
Yes I do agree about the first point, it takes much more than a few months of working to develop the necessary skills to become a manager and I imagine that there would have been someone else in line for promotion as well, which is quite sad really.
November 3rd, 2008 05:42
i thinked PW have been contact kate. even she is not seen in the public. Maybe she is busy with her work as working party pieces in her family firm. what about chelsy and harry? what have they got seen in the public place such as night club or so whatever. etc.
November 3rd, 2008 10:05
I wonder if Kate’s “leak” might have been a long-term Party Pieces employee who felt slighted when or if Kate was given his or her job?
Yes, I am just speculating, and not implying blame, but it certainly wouldn’t be the first time a family member was favoured over a faithful employee and that employee sought revenge?
Many have speculated the leak was Pippa, but despite her being friendly and probably naively chatty with certain society reporters, Pippa actually said, on record, that “we don’t talk to the press” after Kate and William broke up last year.
So, anyone else here think the leak may be a Party Pieces (ex) employee?
November 3rd, 2008 10:19
Alsgal, I think you have a good theory there. I hope for the best for KM and PW, but I am not putting all my eggs in the same basket. I am on the fence.
November 3rd, 2008 10:40
Same here, Gracie.
Yes, she’s been to Royal Weddings and the Garter ceremony, and PW and Kate have appeared very much in love, but — big picture here –why is CH allowing Kate to make decisions that many others can see ahead of time might lead to problems — Sex Party Emma Sisterhood and wearing short shorts for starters.
CH doesn’t have enough clout with the Daily Telegraph to keep the cell phone pics off their usually positive pages? C’mon, folks, read between the lines.
And although obviously for a good cause, I don’t care if “everyone else was doing it” at the roller disco party, “everyone else” is not (potentially) going to be the future Queen Consort of Britain.
Naive and ill-advised, somewhat like the OTT first response on the PP website, the Jigsaw job, and having one’s sister walk around London with intimate photos on a photo card a few months after they were taken.
My question is why CH seems to be allowing KM to shoot herself in the foot?
November 3rd, 2008 10:54
If they want perfection, then PW should marry a Princess (born into it).
November 3rd, 2008 10:55
Alsgal, I totally agree with what you have said. It makes no sense for CH to allow all the recent bad press of KM if they had intended her to be wife material. It would make their work and the PR work that much harder to have to clean up her image. As much as I like Kate, I am starting to believe that she is not what RF/CH want for PW future bride. I also think that if she was what PW wanted, he would not have allowed her reputation to be trashed in the press.
November 3rd, 2008 10:58
So Kate needs CH to tell her not to associate with sex party planners and not to wear short shorts while skating because she doesn’t have enough common sense to figure that out herself? That doesn’t sound like a compliment to Kate. I don’t think she needs someone to follow her around 24/7, tell her how to spend her time in a worthwhile manner, pick her cloths for her and tell her whom to befriend and who not to? I don’t think she does. She is human, humans make mistakes and not all mistakes can be foreseen or prevented no matter how many advisors you may have.
Why didn’t CH keep the pic of William touching that woman’s breast off the papers? Or the one’s of Harry half naked licking another man’s breast and snorting vodka? If they can’t even protect the heir and his brother two very prominent Royals, why should they be able to do so for the g/f? The press calls Bea and Eugenie party girls, even called Bea fat, repeatedly makes fun of William’s receeding hair and his party nights, constantly accuses him of being a cad with a roving eye etc. Why should Kate be the only one of the young “royals” above media criticism and ridicule? It’s not like she’s the only one confronted with bad press.
She is a 26-year-old woman who lived in the public eye for more than 4 years now. She managed just fine during the first two years, why would she suddenly need advice on some very basic things? She made some mistakes (as did almost every member of the RF) and she had to face public ridicule for it but those mistakes are her own not CH’s. I do not see the recent media criticism as a failure of CH or lack of protection on their part.
November 3rd, 2008 11:07
Consort Queen material would be the one PW loves.
November 3rd, 2008 11:12
… right if HM managed with Philip and his constant gaffes I don’t see why Kate should pose any sort of problem.
November 3rd, 2008 11:13
Gracie, ty
I like Kate too, but somehow I get the feeling she is being allowed to wither on the vine, and sadly, I don’t think that would be happening if she was about to be brought into the fold. (Also, the fact that her “rehab” — and I use the word with extreme reservation — seems to be in the hands of her mother and her attorney Gerrard Tyrrell and not someone at CH is worrisome to me.)
I don’t think it matters much what the tabs print, as we all know it’s crap, but when something as esteemed and usually pro-Royal as the Daily Telegraph prints a photo of her on her cell and mentions that “she could go to jail for up to two years” if caught, it makes me wonder if there aren’t evil forces beyond her control right now.
I hope I’m wrong, but I remember last year before the break up that there was a flurry of negative press for Kate, and that concerns me a bit as it seems to be happening again.
November 3rd, 2008 11:20
Trixie, the Queen married Prince Philip back when the press and the public had more respect for people in power (for example, they knew but didn’t report tales of people like PP’s or JFK’s womanising and now they would) and we didn’t have a 24/7 news cycle or thousands of celebrity rags competing for circulation.
Be forewarned I’m not faulting Kate for making naive mistakes, I’m faulting the so-called advisors/PR flunkeys at CH who are doing a crappy job looking out for the product they are paid to protect and promote — the future King.
If Kate is supposed to be his future Queen, they need to step up to the plate and pronto.
Unless, of course, this is deliberate and they are all hoping we the public are too stupid to notice what they are doing to an (ex?) girlfriend.
November 3rd, 2008 11:31
I think the bad press has been rather constant for about a year now – ever since she went on “party girl” mode after the break up. For months all people got to see in the tabloids were pictures of her (the “down to earth middle class girl”) shopping in London and leaving one high profile night club in a short sexy dress after the other. (I know that’s not what she did 24/7 but those were the pictures that deterimined her public image)
That changed her image big time, IMO. I can very well understand why she did that and none of it was unusaul for young women her age but it didn’t “fit in” with the far too rosy picture the papers had painted of her as almost saint like, abstinent girl next door.
IMO, the papers didn’t do her any favour with their overly positive coverage in the early years. After the break up the press image and what people saw were in such big contrast that a backlash was almost inevitable. The “down to earth” middleclass girl turned out to look exactly like the millionaire daughter that she is who enjoyed her life. Had the papers not tried to write her up, she wouldn’t have fallen down.
They raised expectations to a degree that they are almost impossible for her to fulfill. Now she is already regarded “below par” if she acts very normal or age appropriate and pretty much does the same as her royal b/f.
Contrary to you I actually DO see PR efforts in Kate’s favour. She moved to Berkshire, works for PP, we regularly get little tidbits about how hard she’s working there, we heard of her planned involvement with Starlight to help children at hospices etc. I think I already mentioned before that these kind of PR changes take time. They won’t happen over night or otherwise they’d just be dismissed as PR stunt. Even Will and Harry’s recent “PR tour” in Africa was not well received everywhere and got a lot of negative comments of people accusing them of wasting money. Unfortunately people are that cynical nowadays.
Can you imagine the media backlash if it was reveiled CH had actually spend money and resources on Kate’s PR prior to an engagement? I can very well understand that Jamie Pinkerton (or whoever acts on William’s behalf nowadays) isn’t openly lobbying for Kate. That’s dangerous territory to trespass upon… so her lawyer who’s also working for Charles and William may actually be the decisive link between her and CH.
November 3rd, 2008 11:39
Trixie, that is a good point you make as I know how outraged many were that PC was paying Mark Bolland to do the same on Camilla’s behalf prior to their engagement — questions were raised as to how exactly Camilla was being supported and if that was done solely from private funds and not from Duchy income, which would have have been considered inappropriate for a mere GF.
I do see some PR going on as of late, but it seems to be Middleton driven.
I hope I am wrong.
November 3rd, 2008 11:51
Kate’s press is not nearly as bad as we think it is if you remove all things tabloid from the mix. Even the press coverage of the roller disco by the mainstream(press association bbc etc) of the event was positive. She has had reasonably good press(as precieved by the average person,not forum members) in Vanity Fair and Tatler as well as Hello. Although she showed poor judgement with the roller disco appearance, the papas and the tabloids are really the core of the problem,not Kate. What she did was done for charity and a great cause,she just failed to gauge the results of her presence at the event and how it would be reported on by the Tabs. Hopefully it is a mistake she will learn from in the future and the next event she lends her name to will be better all around.
November 3rd, 2008 11:56
… that’s also true, lisa. And then most of the negative articles seem to come from the Daily Mail.
November 3rd, 2008 12:07
I agree with you alsgal. She is not being advised by CH. By no means should she be forced to behave a certain way as Trixie suggested but she has to retain a certain image. I know that may sound snobbish seeing as neither Harry nor William have the best images, but they are not the ones in danger. At the end of the day, if the entire British population went against Kate William would have a very difficult time in gaining support. Look at his father and Camilla, still people do not respect him and people do not want her to be King.
Me: the consort Queen material would not be the one that PW necessarily loves. His WIFE would be the one that he loves, Queen consort it a different kettle of fish. The Queen consort has to behave in a certain way and conduct herself in a certain manner.
In my mind, and this is only in my mind, she should be polite, charming, pretty but not in a real sexy way. She should be hard working and supportive, gentle and understanding yet strong at the same time. Her passion for working and making the world better must be strong and I think is the most important quality.
Now, I am sure that someone is going to say that it is impossible to find a woman like that. Well no it isn’t, the woman I have based my views upon is someone I actually know. Of course I do not expect her to be Queen nor would I want her to be, she is so happy where she is and has three lovely children.
Perhaps, all of those qualities are not necessary but it does illustrate that the qualities for Queen consort would be very different than those for William’s wife.
William’s wife would just have to have his love and she would be perfect, his consort has to have so much more and that is why it is so difficult for him to be sure on a bride.
I think that’s why he is hesitant about marrying. It’s quite sad really.
November 3rd, 2008 12:11
It wasn’t always that way with the Mail, in fact, for the longest time they were quite friendly towards her. I wonder why they completely turned on her, save for KN who often writes a friendly blurb.
Adam H. at the Daily Express doesn’t seem to be a big fan of the Middletons these days.
Ditto for the Daily Mirror, who haven’t been friendly since about March 2007, I believe. That was probably because of the PCC complaint Kate’s lawyers made against them, so they obviously have a bias against her now.
The Guardian ran a nasty article on Kate’s association w/ Emma Sayle, the Independent doesn’t like the BRF in general, so IMO that leaves the DT, the Sun, Hello and Majesty, sort of. (Although even Ingrid is perplexed at Kate’s status at this point.)
I haven’t read the Tatler article on eligibles, but it sounded snarky IMO that they weirdly pointed out after listing her as No. 1, that Pippa goes to lots of parties, but as the caterer. Does anyone know what the “Snapped — Kate and William in bed” cover blurb is referring to?
November 3rd, 2008 12:21
B, I cannot see how your statement about William being hesitant to marry could possibly be based on facts unless you know him personally. Just because they have not married yet and no engagement has been announced does not mean he is marriage shy. It means that they are not married yet. There are many reasons why they are not married yet and. William is no ordinary Joe. He is a future King who lives a life that is more or less planned out for him by others. Planning and logistics of a royal wedding of this magnitude require the time and effort of many people and the cost is huge. If we try to stick to the facts as we know them and try to be patient,I think things will work out.
November 3rd, 2008 12:34
I think CH and her lawyers has advised her and this is the reason why everything has become serious now and we will see more of her next month when she start working with The Starlight Foundation. There will be some press attention on that. What I don’t like about this is that some start to think that something is wrong with the relationship when they are simply being more serious about things. Mostly the relationship doubt comes from blogs.
November 3rd, 2008 12:39
The Starlight foundation will receive a DONATION from Party Pieces, the 200 packages will be delivered to hospitals around UK, the NURSES will be responsible of carrying out the celebrations in Christmas with the sick children. The PP website does not mention any appearance of any representative of the company.
November 3rd, 2008 12:49
Could we all play devil’s advocate here and ask ourselves — personal hopes for a W&K wedding aside — why William, despite being deeply in love and knowing that someone was authorised on Kate’s behalf to speak w/ Hello saying that she had committed to a career at PP in Bucklebury — would take a job that will require him to be so far away in a remote location (North Wales or North Scotland) when he could easily have served the British public in a job closer to home?
I guess I am stating the obvious, but surely he would know how difficult this would make things for Kate, so my question is: if he loves her so much, why doesn’t he marry her so that they can live together?
They already lived together in college, and have been together what, five years, so my question is, how much time does a fella need to make up his mind?
Sure, we can hope that Kate is OK with this, but a) does she have any other option not to be and b) I’m going to guess that this is not her preference. I get the sense she would rather be married.
Also, PW did mention wanting to be a helicopter pilot during the April/May Concert for Diana interviews last year w/ Matt Lauer or Ferne Cotton — but that was at the time that he was no longer with Kate. I wonder if this is his fallback bachelor dream?
November 3rd, 2008 12:51
If CH is serious about showing Kate is a better light to the public,then Mr Head will make sure Kate gets good exposure from this STARLIGHT connection. I don’t see why it would be a bad thing to allow Kate and Emma Saams to be interviewed if the questions were kept to the charity connection and no personal questions. It would give the public a chance to hear this womans voice and feel her emotion. JMO.
November 3rd, 2008 12:59
Alsgal have you considered that this PP “career” is part of a PR makeover to put an end to the you- lazy -no- job- waity- katey articles? I am not saying she isn’t helping with the family business but it is not like she would not be able to give that position up if the time came to join William on a base in Wales or Scotland.
November 3rd, 2008 13:06
Well we just don’t know what the outcome will be. That’s why we have to wait and see what will happen. We are still very much in the dark on what the plan is. Lisa I think it will be great if there was a interview on the charity. That is what I have been saying for awhile now, the public needs to hear from her and know what’s she’s all about. It doesn’t have to be personal but a highlight of what she is doing, charity wise. Her charity work with The Starlight Foundation would be a perfect opportunity.
November 3rd, 2008 13:10
I think there are a few possible reasons why they are not married
1. Kate is not fit or willing for full time royal duties inevitable once she’s married
2. both of them do not want to have children (yet)
3. the palace desn’t want a wedding because the newly weds would overshadow C&C
4. so far they would not have been able to live a regular married life together anyways because of William’s several obligatory stints with different services and Kate would have been left alone among the courtiers
5. whenever William wanted to propose some stupid tabloid spoiled everything with its engagement speculation
I do not see 4 years as an unusually long dating period and do not understand why one year more or less without a public annoucement should make such a difference.
If William’s and her life plans were totally contradictory Kate could call it quits any minute – yet so far she hasn’t. After all the impression that she wants to marry and he doesn’t is only based on tabloid articles. The truth could be totally different.
Could anyone find out which of the SAR bases William will be trained at?
November 3rd, 2008 13:12
Lisa I think things has become more serious now and she did put a stop to the “lazy” press comments. Her disappearence put a stop to alot of things now everybody is wondering where she is? What’s going to happen next with W&K? that is the questions that is being asked. Even RT is asking that.
November 3rd, 2008 13:16
I always felt that when the new PR guy came in it would be 60-90 days before an announcement. Just to give him time to get the ducks in order.
November 3rd, 2008 13:24
Yes, Lisa I do consider the PP job to very much be part of her image makeover — I am just wondering what took them so long?
After almost three years (esp. in the case of the 3 day a week Jigsaw job, which IMO almost looked worse as it made her world appear to be somewhat William-centric and “waitey”) of speculation as to why Kate wasn’t working or working hard enough, it is a bit hard to undo that damage overnight, without PP/Starlight appearing to be mainly an exercise in damage control.
I hate that cynicism, but that is how many have viewed it, that this was more reactive and defensive than proactive and self-initiated. (I guess because it took a while for them to figure the Kate’s PP/Starlight role out?)
The great part about Kate working for PP is that she can spend a three or four day weekend visiting PW up in Scotland or in Wales, and no one will know she isn’t at PP. But, logistically, it’s got to be a bit of a nightmare, I would think.
November 3rd, 2008 13:28
If she really does the website design and IT for PP she could do that from “home” even in Wales and Scotland, no? I know that the IT-guy from my law firm sits in a totally different city and when I mess up, I just call him and he can fix things via the network… She may not actually have to spend all that much time in Berkshire.
November 3rd, 2008 13:28
Alsgal, if the plan is for Kate to remain at PP and see William on the weekends,I am quite sure that arrangement would be only for several months..say until may or june
November 3rd, 2008 13:32
They will work it out that would be best for them. Now what would really put things in place if William or Harry got involved next month. Things are going to get better and I believe this is what they are doing now. They are wiping everything clean and starting fresh.
November 3rd, 2008 13:47
Lisa, let’s hope so, but from what I understand, the training will be for18 months starting in January, 2009 (once again, it seems William is going to miss her birthday!
) and I believe he will be based at either RAF Anglesey (North Wales) or at RAF Kinloss (north of Balmoral in Scotland.)
I hope Kinloss will be the spot as he and Kate could visit at their Tam O’Shanter cottage, but again, eighteen months of going back and forth via car, plane or train to anywhere far away cannot be much fun.
Although as Trixie pointed out, she could theoretically work from home, wherever home may be.
However, I would think that if Kate spent too much time away from PP, esp. after saying she worked 9 to 5, Mon. -Fri. in an office there, the risk would be that the press would have a field day if they thought that wasn’t true. Even though she could actually be putting in 80 hours a week on her laptop, unfortunately most people probably wouldn’t believe it unless they saw proof of that, and even then she will suffer from the accusations of nepotism.
Not so easy for her, I would think.
November 3rd, 2008 14:53
Alsgal,I think it is quite feasible for William and Kate to become engaged toward the end of the year or just into the new year and marry in the spring. Kate would probably remain local during the engagement and move to his quarters after the wedding. She could split her time staying with William during weekends and carrying out duties during the week. It would be quite logical and efficient,IMO. Having Kate carrying out a full schedule of royal duties would lessen the blow of William being otherwise committed during his training and take some burden off his grandparents. From a PR standpoint it would be flawless as Kate would be seen as dutiful and supportive to William essentially “having his back”, while showing she is a hard worker and bonding with the public.
November 3rd, 2008 15:14
Lisa, Alsgal they have something planned and I’m sure something will come to light soon. The fact that Kate is working and helping her parents out and haven’t been seen in awhile is speaking loud words. Something is up and I think it’s funny how we are just sitting and waiting to see what’s going to happen. Many people just don’t like Kate and I understand that but all we have seen this past year is a woman and a man who is in love with each other and have supported each other publicly or privately. Their plan is very much confusing to us right now because what they do is their business but I think our confusion will come to a end. Know you all know I’m not a fan of Katie Nicholls but I was glad to see she didn’t come up with a negitive artical for once.
November 3rd, 2008 16:15
Anything that will keep the dream alive, Rman, is OK with me.
November 3rd, 2008 16:53
Hello,
I get the opinion that there is a lot of grasping at straws in most of the above posts.
It is difficult to think clearly when an event that most of us have spent years of waiting and thousands of words in trying to propagate suddenly seems to be falling apart around our ears.
PW has indicated that he is to commit 3 – 7 years of his life to a demanding service.
KM is the eldest child and has been selected and earned a position as a manager in her parents firm. Her brother runs a side line activity but that is his own show apparently and he will want to develop it over the years. It is therefore feasible that KM is being groomed to take over the main part of the firm.
If that is the case why did it not happen 2 or 3 years ago ? Because at that time she was anticipating an early engagement and marriage.
True or false it was leaked that HM wanted KM to get a ‘proper job’ before an engagement was considered, and prove herself.
The job is there and PW is otherwise committed so any sign of backtracking by KM would now be considered as a sign of weakness in some way ,and be an indication that she had had not shown a determination to succeed.
PW will train , either at RAF Valley in Anglesey North Wales, or in Scotland and part of the training will be 24/7 duty roster. He dare not be shown to be favoured in any way with these duties during training and as it has been indicated he will also carry out Royal duties during his service these royal commitments will have to be carried out during his leave or off duty period.
Where does KM fit in with this ?
Her own job and reputation at stake and PW only available when RAF duties and Royal appearances allow.
The only relationship they could possibly have over possibly several years would be very spasmodic with brief togetherness.
It has been obvious over the years that what they need is to be together for lengthly periods and that is how their relationship started and blossomed. The infrequent times they have together with many partings and separation seem build up a tension between them and a short split occurs.
When they have had time together they look in love and happy but having started their togetherness with long periods of time together separation for them is a huge obstacle.
I think that we shall all have moved on from here before we see PW and KM as loving partners again.
November 3rd, 2008 17:10
Ked, it’s only 5 pm here but I guess it’s not too early to add a bit of tonic to my gin.
I just don’t think I can give up on their romance just yet, at least not until I see either (or both) of them with a new partner. So, for now, I’ve just got to keep hoping for the best.
I agree, though, that long absences usually tend to put a strain on most relationships, especially if one partner has attractive people throwing themselves constantly at their feet, as I’m sure William does. At least Kate has been quoted directly as saying she knows that happens with William, that girls chase him constantly, and that it doesn’t bother her. As long as she trusts him, then it’s all good.
The lack of time together cannot be fun or easy for either of them, though, and I would assume it’s going to be a real test of their love.
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that everything works out well.
November 3rd, 2008 17:14
Ked, we don’t know how they will go about this that’s why we just have to wait and see. Like I have said before we are still in the dark about things so now we are just waiting to see what will happen and how they will work this out. It will be tough that we know but what matters is that they will get through it together. Even if they are apart for awhile, I think there will be enough phone calls, and love letters to help. That’s the funny thing about them, they is always faced with some kind of hardship but they come out fighting with each other in the end. There’s more to that relationship and we may never know what it is but I think it’s safe to say it’s love. It’s a strong word and it’s a shame that many take it for granted.
November 3rd, 2008 17:24
That’s all we can do Alsgal is hope for the best. The speculations won’t help but I hope that in meantime we will get a chance to know more about this lady that has captured William’s heart.
November 3rd, 2008 17:24
alsgal and Rman,
You know I’m sure that in a way I hated writing that last post, but I honestly can’t see how they are going to get time together. That I believe is the crux of the relationship, together love and happiness, apart doubts and despondency, unhappiness and splits.
alsgal, I am afraid that PW’s eyes and hands may just get the better of him . KM said she trusted him prior to earlier ‘happenings’. It caused a big split.
November 3rd, 2008 17:34
Ked
I believe it will all come down to whether they get engaged at Christmas or not. If they do then the distance thing I believe won’t be so much of a problem because she will be entitled to live on base with him and could still carry out PP related work or what ever engagements were required of her.
If not it is going to be tough but some how Harry and Chelsea have managed it so maybe these two can too. I agree that I wouldn’t want to be in her position when her man here there and everywhere over the next 7 years but I think as mentioned on RA there I am sure is an option to buy William out out of his contract if necessary.
If god forbid anything did happen to HM am I right in believing that he would have to give it up anyway ( I know he is not directly in line after HM)
November 3rd, 2008 18:00
Agree jj, I think we all know something is coming up, when? I have no idea. I do hope HM keeps going on for a longtime.
November 3rd, 2008 18:06
jj,
Unless C and C provoke a constitutional crisis PW is next but one in line.
BUT,
Two helicopter accidents in ten days. I know they were not military but they are vulnerable wice over.
There are usually no survivors from helicopter accidents and there have been many military accidents over the years.
It’s usually a matter of luck as to who is on duty if/when it happens.
However, any child of PW would protect the direct sovereign lineage and who knows , in 20/30 years time that could be the key to the survival of the monarchy. Other alternatives are fraught with danger for many reasons.
November 3rd, 2008 18:19
jj you are thinking on the same lines as I am. Whatever contract William has surely has an out clause of HM passes away. At that point William would have to take his place as the POW. So for now, I am going to remain positive and keep looking at the glass as half full until I hear otherwise.
November 3rd, 2008 18:32
I agree Ked that helicopters are no joke. I have a lot of friends in the military over here and luckily I haven’t had any fatalities with my friends but they have had friends who have died while on training exercises.
I do think that it is strange that both of them are being allowed to go down this path. Another posting on this website also revealed that Harry is going to be undertaking sky diving training. All very dangerous pursuits. I understand that the guys like adventure but they do at the end of the day have very serious roles to play and I would hate to wake up one morning to hear bad news. It would be awful. But boys will be boys… Boxing day is looming
November 3rd, 2008 18:50
I know helicopters are dangerous but Prince Andrew flew them and he is still around, so I’m trying to think happy thoughts there.
JJ, I agree a Christmas engagement followed by a 2009 summer wedding would certainly seem to end some of their logistical problems but I think Kate would have to give up her Party Pieces job and do Royal engagements once the official engagement was announced.
I don’t think the Queen wants a repeat of Sophie’s fake shiek incident, and Party pieces would have a hard time
November 3rd, 2008 18:59
Your correct Alsgal, Kate career at PP will end the moment the announcement is made. She will then for all intense and purposes belong to the BRF.
I hate all the talk about the helicopter crashes. it is bad karma. All I wish for is for both guys to have happy healthy careers. I know it sounds hokey but I am of the belief that both William and Harry have a very special angel on their shoulders who will look out for them and keep them safe.
November 3rd, 2008 19:13
Hi Alsgal
What was Andrew’s role when flying the helicopters? Just interested? I don’t want anything bad to happen to either of them, it’s just that in SAR especially he will be rescuing individuals in poor weather circumstances and I know hundreds of individuals do it all of the time but it just wouldn’t be my personal pick for him. I pretty much held my breath in the earlier part of this year when he had his flight training. But good thoughts only.
As for giving up the PP job I like to believe that she would want to be wherever william is so it will be no hardship for her.
B I forgot to say that you raised some very good points about Pippa on an earlier posting about also having gone to private school and studied at Edinburgh. Some individuals really give these girls a hard time when they are just trying to live their lives. I mean I think somethings are meant to be. I don’t know what the housing arrangements are like at Edinburgh, but can you imagine how many girls would have like to have lived in the same dorms as William or even how many did but still didn’t make a connection with him. As we have mentioned before he can pretty much have his pick so it should really show people that he is with Kate for a reason
November 3rd, 2008 19:24
You guys are so right, once that announcement comes then the job will end and a great new one will begin. That’s why I have said that they are getting down to work and things has become more serious. Yes lets do pray that they have a safe and healthy careers.
November 3rd, 2008 19:35
PRINCE ANDREW, DUKE OF YORK
In March and April 1979 he was with the Royal Naval College Flight, and underwent pilot grading. He was accepted as a trainee helicopter pilot and signed on for 12 years from 11 May 1979.
Prince Andrew was appointed a Midshipman on 1 September 1979 and entered Dartmouth on 12 September. He also undertook the Royal Marine ‘Green Beret’ course during 1980.
After passing out of Dartmouth, Prince Andrew went on to elementary flying training with the Royal Air Force at RAF Leeming, Yorkshire, and later basic flying training with the Royal Navy at Culdrose, Cornwall, where he learned to fly the Gazelle helicopter.
Prince Andrew later converted onto the Sea King helicopter and conducting operational flying training. In 1982, he joined his first front-line unit 820 Naval Air Squadron, serving aboard the aircraft carrier, HMS “Invincible”.
November 3rd, 2008 19:46
PRINCE CHARLES
5 year military career is remembered by a crash incident/accident.
Accident Summary (MAAS), Aircraft Type: RAF BAe 146 CC2 ZE700, Date: 29 June 1994, Location: Islay Airfield”
Document is Restricted
Quotes
The exact location on the airfield where he buried the 146 up to its oxters in the putty is still known locally as Holding Point Charlie.
Unquote
End of the story
November 3rd, 2008 19:55
How old will Kate be when william gets out of training exactly?
http://www.stjohns.org/services/womens/labor/journey/preparing/later_life.htm
November 3rd, 2008 19:59
Born 9 January 1982. so she is almost 27 or almost 26? i cant remember.
November 3rd, 2008 20:12
She will be older when he finishes but I don’t think there’s much to worry about. We have no idea what their arrangements will be during his training so we will have to wait and find out. I notice that people are focusing on the fact that William will be in training for a couple of years and thinking he won’t get married until he’s in his thirties. We don’t know that yet. I think that is very important for people to understand on all royal blogs, we don’t know what the plan is so just wait and see.
November 3rd, 2008 20:12
PRINCE WILLIAM
RAF Search and Rescue
18 months training course
36 months operational SARF
____
54 months
____
4 years, 5 months
Kate Middleton and Prince William will be both 30 years old; January and June 2012
November 3rd, 2008 20:23
If she doesn’t marry PW, I hope she marries a gorgeous guy with the likes of WM, ohhh the babies will be the most beautifull creatures in the UK
November 3rd, 2008 20:31
Me, I think William & Kate will have some good looking children. I mean lets face it, they both are very good looking. Maybe William will have a son that will flush his shoes down the toilet like he did many years ago. It would be great to see Charles as a grandfather.
November 3rd, 2008 21:56
Thanks Me
Wow signed on for 12 years!!!! That is a long time! I didn’t know that Charles had a plane crash??
It would be good to see Charles as a grand father and William as a father!
November 3rd, 2008 22:02
Yes it would be a great site. A poster on RA said something that would turn the whole Kate situation around. If her voice was heard and she really came out and talked about the charities that interest her, it would make a huge difference. She would put aside all the things the tabs has dubbed her and show us her true personality. She needs air.
November 4th, 2008 00:56
jj,
Prince Andrew was CO of a Helicopter flight during the war in the South Pacific.
He was particularly known for acting as a decoy protecting Aircraft Carriers and Major Battleships , by flying his helicopter between Argentinian heat seeking Exorcet Missiles and the Capital Ships.
AS soon as his helicopter attracted the missile he manoeuvred his helicopter , directed the missile away from the ship then quickly got out of the way. It was an incredibly brave action and it was said that had he not been a Royal Prince , would have earned a major honour.
He also piloted his helicopter into burning ships to lift off survivors and saved many lives.
An incredibly brave man he could have sent others in but went in himself.
November 4th, 2008 01:06
Rman,
Don’t you think that PW and KM appearing together at this time would be counter productive, open up the debate yet again and destroy the space that KM seems to have made for herself.
For them to be seen together, if they are still a couple, would only satisfy our needs and not help the overall safety and piece of mind of KM.
AS a matter of interest was there a report a few weeks ago saying that PW and PH would not be helping PC celebrate his 60th due to military duties ?
PH’s parachute course may confirm that and PW is due to join SAS or SBS after the Rugby match in Cardiff next saturday.
November 4th, 2008 05:03
is william and kate splitsville or on?
November 4th, 2008 07:09
I did not know the details of PA participation, very insightfull, indeed an incredibly brave man.
Just a tiny correction, the Falklands (Malvinas to the Argentinians) is located down South Atlantic, where the war took place.
November 4th, 2008 08:05
Me,
Sorry South Pacific slipped out. I did know it was S Atlantic as we had a close relative fighting down there the year I was born.
Fortunately came back in one piece and also went out to Kuwait,Saudi and Iraq.
Now peacefully retired and as miserable as sin?!
November 4th, 2008 08:18
Bluefire, they are still on. There is no evidence that they have split at all.
November 4th, 2008 08:24
He’s an action man, retired, I may imagine to be miserable after so much adventure. Anyway thanks for the PA bit. If you know where I can read more military inside action from the Royals, it would be great.
November 4th, 2008 08:31
Ked I’m not saying for her to give a big interview but just a little comment during the hospital charity event.
November 4th, 2008 08:39
Seems like she does unpublished charity (rumours)
November 4th, 2008 08:41
There will be a perfect moment with the perfect timing for anything good or sad news Rman.
We will just have to wait and the outcome will be there.
November 4th, 2008 08:44
Rman,
I doubt that KM would say anything even if she attends given the distraction she would cause.
If PP as a Company are there it would be for the Principal or Chief Exexutive to introduce or wind up the proceedings not the Business Manager even though it may have been her project.
I have no doubt however that whoever makes the speech they will refer to KM and to her work for that project.
For KM to introduce it would be undoubtedly taken as a piece of self advertisement and she would be criticised for it.
However it would be wonderful for the world to hear her voice and perhaps dispel a lot of the nastiness that has undeservedly been piled upon her for certain of her past efforts.
November 4th, 2008 09:05
On another site some-one has just posted that there is an article in the Daily Express that said that W & K were at Birkhall with friends this past weekend. Does anyone here get the Daily express? If not I may have to go out to buy it!!
November 4th, 2008 09:21
Sorry, for the double post but I have found the article online
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/69377/The-Royal-Relationship-strains
It is interesting that there are 2 articles in the Daily express about Kate in 2/3 days – I wonder if the “source” is the same??
November 4th, 2008 09:49
It’s funny how they are always trying to make it a interesting read by the title. The artical has nothing to do with the title. If they was spotted at Birkhall then things are okay.
November 4th, 2008 09:52
The “H” in your name stands for Hero, thanks for finding that.
Well, if true, and let’s hope it is, then it does seem to provide relief, although without pictures it will probably have to remain in the “hopeful but without proof” file.
I did suspect that neither Kate nor Chelsy would attend the formal do at BP (it sounds too formal and official, and unlike the Garter, Kate’s BF is not the guest-of-honour) and I do believe we will hear word, but not see pictures, of KM and CD at Highgrove.
Right now, it would be comforting to have some photographic proof of W&K toether, as for all we know this could be made up story from a journo who gets their info from the online Royal websites.
November 4th, 2008 09:52
H
Thanks that awesome!! Alsgal it’s not Tescos but it works for me!!
November 4th, 2008 10:01
I say not, no poster flying imagination wrote “Birkhall”. They most likely spent the weekend there.
November 4th, 2008 10:33
http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities-news-in-pics/04-11-2008/50023/
November 4th, 2008 10:44
http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities-news-in-pics/04-11-2008/50023/
its in Hello as well.i;m not sure who got the story first
November 4th, 2008 11:21
Do we have any pictures anywhere?
November 4th, 2008 11:32
Birkhall is in Balmoral, a private estate. But I would have loved to see pictures of her driving over there with him or alone like Prince Andrew, with Fergie and the girls when caught in highway almost there.
And I’m glad the PW didn’t go shooting near the outskirts/landmarks of Balmoral (one end of the landmark is right next to a public road). You know the pictures of PC and KM last year brought controversy. Specially on Kate.
November 4th, 2008 12:08
Hello,
Super news but can’t find story in DEx on line.
Odd as I diid hear that KM had flown from Bristol to Dublin either last weekend or weekend before , out friday back monday but can’t confirm that as yet.
It will be interesting to get the provenance on the story from Birkhall but if true surely an announcement must be coming
November 4th, 2008 12:13
Ked, something is coming it may be this year or next year but something is coming. I have said it before, this couple is always backed in a corner in the media but they always come out fighting.
November 4th, 2008 12:39
Hello,
Have just phoned my sister who has contacts in Braemar and stays there three or four times a year.
She will ask about and if I hear anything I’ll post early tomorrow as I’m then away for a few days.
There is a local paper there who has knowledge of shoots as they happen so may get something later.
November 4th, 2008 13:04
Hello,
All I’ve got at moment is that Stag stalking season ended on 20 October.( from 1 april sundays ecepted)
But Roe culling does happen late november and into December.
Has anyone got confirmation of dates please?
November 4th, 2008 13:14
This past weekend (Hello ! mag and Daily Express)
http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities-news-in-pics/04-11-2008/50023/
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/69377/The-Royal-Relationship-strains
November 4th, 2008 13:16
And today is Tuesday – published 24 hours later.
November 4th, 2008 13:26
Hi Ked
Not sure what is on and off season but the photographs which were taken last year were taken on November 14/15 of Kate up at Balmoral deer stalking with Charles. So it is entirely possible that the express article is correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1566021/Kate-Middleton-and-Prince-Charles-go-hunting.html
November 4th, 2008 13:38
Hello,
Not trying to throw cold water over story but dates are important in Scotland.
Stalking of Stags stops on 2o Oct but hunting of Roes goes on in late nov and december. That I remember from my youth (?)
Unlike America stalking and hunting is different sport in England and Scotland (NI hava different rules and regs) and I couldn’t quite get the dates to match up.
Not to worry just good to hear they’re together all be it surreptitiously. I do wish PW would agree to get cooler on this publicity question. It would stop 80 to 90 % of hassle if he could get away from his phobia.
Hold hard and hope people.
November 4th, 2008 15:24
Ked, I agree with you.
William’s hatred of the press, and his obsession with privacy seem to have had the opposite effect of what he seems to hope for, as speculation has only increased.
It is easy to understand why he feels the way he feels, but it will be an unavoidable aspect of “the Job” as the years go by.
Even if we hear that Kate and William are happily together at Highgrove on the 15th, surely there will be no pictures as it’s a private event, so until they are seen smiling out in public together, the speculation will continue.
Fair enough to put the press through this, after what they did to his mother, but the adoring public?
November 4th, 2008 16:38
While I am glad that there is finally a report of them spending time together, I’d prefer a picture, too. It’s true that William’s obsession with his own privacy seems to do him (and Kate) more harm than good but I fear he may never get over it…
November 4th, 2008 17:07
Greetings folks and thanks for the news of this sighting,even if the source is a tabloid.
November 4th, 2008 17:07
Oh and yes my cup is STILL half full!
November 4th, 2008 22:12
if anyone cares on here
Obama is winning in the US with 207 electorial votes and mccain has 137
November 4th, 2008 22:13
sorry typo.
Mccain has 135 electorial votes
November 4th, 2008 22:14
Im only 17 so i cant vote yet, but im for Obama =D
November 4th, 2008 23:34
Obama is now president
November 5th, 2008 00:46
Hello,
Did any one see the TV programme on “Kanga” last evening.
Not sure if anyone comes out of it with any credit with no real new revelations apart from a need to be very cautious when in similar positions.
I don’t think there has been any photographs or confirmation od Express story so perhaps we have to wait a little longer.
November 5th, 2008 01:43
Which channel was it ked?
November 5th, 2008 08:38
B here are som TV review of Prince Charles Other Mistress (Kanga).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/11/05/nosplit/bvtvreview-0511.xml
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5083212.ece
November 5th, 2008 09:50
Must be a nightmare for Charles, to have his past dug up like that. But I gues he knows that all sorts of things will come up as he approaches 60.
November 5th, 2008 10:29
Hello,
There seems to be rather a lot of these programmes now and I did see the ‘Kanga’ film.
The amount of implied threat was very little compared to the amount implied in a recent disclosure of PC’s efforts to get Camilla initially acceptable to the UK populace as his wife and secondly to prepare the way for her total named acceptance as his Queen not just consert
Legally, as his wife, she is named Queen and may be crowned and an Act of Parliament would be needed to change that. In the past King George 111 (i think) refused his wife entry to his coronation at Westinster Cathedral to prevent her being actually crowned but by constitution he could not prevent her being named as Queen Caroline (again from memory).
The amount of pressure and spin put on by PC’s PR people was intense and provocative to say the least.
Me , it would be interesting to read any reviews of that programme if you can access them.
I think the programme was named “Queen Camila” but am not sure.
I think these programmes really show the amount of effort put into the protection of the monarchy, especially the sovereign line, by Royal retainers and be assured it is still going on now in an even bigger way to counteract the present ‘power’ and ‘distribution’ of the press and media.
They have one aim the protection of the reputation and safety of the succession until time immemorial and it is interesting thoughout history how the same family names occur in the closest vassals of the Queen.
November 5th, 2008 10:44
What I find interesting is her death and her supposed mental health conditions.
November 5th, 2008 10:47
Ked, very good points. I have always thought it interesting too that the same names have surrounded the monarchy for centuries. I think people kid themselves in thinking that nothing is done without the careful consideration/ramifications to the monarchy. The monarchy comes first. JMO.
November 5th, 2008 10:52
and Diana’s death and her supposed metal conditions too brought up by many so called “experts” postmortem.
MODERN PRINCES
The Windsor boys seem to have that “magic” that make their girls go mad for them. :scary:
One goes in miniskirts, short dresses, crazy beautifull smile, first turn, next turn in hidding (due to unlucky by amateur mistake – bad press tabloid).
The other does furious texting, heavy pouting, cries with her head leaned on the window and tells the entire world via facebook her feelings.
November 5th, 2008 11:40
Thanks Me for the links.
Is what is written in your post above a quote because I have never seen Chelsy furiously text, pout heavily or cry? She might text people but we have seen Kate do that, she has never cried or pouted in public but just does not wish to smile for the cameras all the time. She doesn’t tell the world her feelings via facebook, we may have had some photos but we have had some of Kate’s family.
Yes, ked the documentry was called Queen Camilla. There is another at the moment which can be seen on BBC Iplayer, called week in week out. It looks at what PC has done for us.
November 5th, 2008 12:25
Yes a quote from the DM, Sun, Star, al the tabloids Oct. 2007
November 5th, 2008 12:27
I have jpg wall to wall (facebook) from CD/SP (Spike Wells) from an impecable source.
B, we must be talking about the wrong person. We have tons of pictures of Chelsy with mobile on ear, plus the articles I mentioned above furiously texting (not my words).
November 5th, 2008 12:33
Chelsy did show some of her feelings when they had that bad break up last year. She was pictured with tears in her eyes and a sad look but I think Kate has shown her feelings too. Sometimes she don’t have a smile and at times look fed up. It’s hard not to show your feelings when your every move is watched and judged.
November 5th, 2008 12:41
That was immediately after William/Harry went to Paris, France for the weekend, and there where quotes in the article from Wills saying “be soft to my brother Harry” the younger was totally wasted from too many drinks. Chelsy had caught him (or did the naughty think of checking his cellphone and discovered he was texting and whispering calls to another girl).
I do recall that many posters beginning this year wanted to dismiss these articles subsequently saying they did not have a tiff but it was because Harry was being secretly deployed mid Nov. 2007.
November 5th, 2008 12:44
There are many pictures of the football event in France, after pub with the players then the after party.
November 5th, 2008 13:08
Th whole thing about Chelsy finding messages on Harry’s phone was never proven. I believe it was just some tabloid who first started that.
There are pics of Chelsy on the phone and texting but I have not seen her do anything which I think consitutes furiously texting. What is furiously texting then?
I don’t think Chelsy was crying or had tears in her eyes during the break up. She might have been tired and she did not look very happy but then she has never smiled for the cameras anyway. They probably did have an argument at the beginning of the year but all I saw in those picture was a young woman who was under a lot of pressure (perhaps from uni or relationships) and was having a camera pushed in her face. I never saw her cry.
You have a jpg wall to wall from Chelsy and Spike Wells. How did you get that (and can I have a look)? If it was between Chelsy and Harry it is hardly telling her feelings to the world!
On facebook it is private, it is not their fault that a friend has decided to leak that out and it is hardly damaging. A few days ago many people on here were saying that they wanted William to publicly say that Kate was his girlfriend. I sincerly doubt that Chelsy was revealing intimate feelings anyway on facebook. There is a difference between having a conversation with someone and telling them private details.
November 5th, 2008 13:34
I am not saying if it where proven or not, I am just stating what the tabloids have wriiten, same goes to Kate articles. But B, I see your tendency with both girls. :shrug:
And sorry no, I would never publish anything personal or the ‘know how’ of anyone if in my hands.
November 5th, 2008 13:40
B, William has put it out there that Kate is his girlfriend, just in his own way. And yes Chelsy did look sad about the breakup. Anyone human would be sad if they broke up with someone they love. I don’t think she was telling her feelings to the world but we did see how she felt alittle. I’m just glad that both couples are together and exploring new levels.
November 5th, 2008 14:00
William has said that Kate is his girlfriend and that’s great I’m not saying it isn’t and it’s good that Harry is able to do the same but Me made it sound like it was a bad thing. She also made it sound like it was a bad thing that Chelsy did not look very happy.
I understand what you are saying Rman completely and I agree but what is wrong with saying how you feel if you reveal nothing that is damaging?
What do you mean my tendency with both girls?
November 5th, 2008 14:14
I don’t know B, that is just how William is and has chosen to handle it. The royal family don’t like to talk about how they feel, they keep things to themselves. Now that does lead to speculation. We all know that Charles was hurt when Diana died but he has never sat down and said how he felt which has lead many tabs to write what they think about his relationship with Diana. I mean keeping your feelings to yourself is not always the best thing but that’s the way it is with them.
November 5th, 2008 14:24
Excuse me I haven’t made anything sound like a bad thing, I stated what the articles have written. Thats all.
November 5th, 2008 14:26
The tendency in which you have very good explanations and opinion of Chelsy articles but not of Kate (as per previous discussiones B, Trixie and Me) where T and M have said to B that you base hard opinions on Kate based on unproven articles on K.
November 5th, 2008 14:52
Rman,
For a single second put yourself in PC’s position with your own, shall we say, common decency and then say that you would behave as he has towards his loves.
I don’t know you personally but from your posts I have some idea of your character and I know that you would not behave ln that way and I suspect the same of 75% of guys.
At the same time I realise from his culture and ancestral background that he would not consider he had done anything to reproach himself.
It is in the genes and the “droit de seignior” that Princes have as a birthright.
November 5th, 2008 15:02
Rman: I guess, but Harry has always revealed his feelings more so maybe he likes Chelsy because she is more open as well. Whilst William is more shy and perhaps likes Kate because she appears to be reserved about her feelings.
ked: Good point, it is part of culture and the way a person is brought up.
Me: I\’m not even going there because I cannot see how you can say the sources I use are rubbish but then back up your point from the same source. I just meant that I did not believe that particular article not the entire source. I do not think that Chelsy would go looking through his phone that\’s all.
I have no tendency with either girl, articles vary all the time that is all. Some I believe some I do not. It does not matter who the article is about or whether it is positive or negative, it is just my take on an article. I don\’t have a HARD opinion on anything here, I just voice how I feel and what my impression from an article is. I cannot believe anything unless there is solid evidence. I cannot believe or disbelieve every single article I read I have to make a choice that is all.
Just because you do not agree with me do not try to make it personal.
By stating what the article had written you made it sound like you believe that and was using a quote to voice you opinion. Especially when there was no opinion or view afterwards. If you do or do not believe it or have any view on it I think it would be best if you made that clear before posting the article so people do not get the wrong impression.
I do not want to be part of a blog where my opinions are bashed and attacked because they disgree with someone elses. I am fed up of voicing my take on an article and being attacked because of it. I feel that if a person makes a slightly negative comment about Kate they are known as being a kate-hater even if that person does compliment Kate when due. Likewise, if someone compliments Chelsy but not Kate they are also biased and a kate-hater. Considering that I am neutral on both of them and just want the Princes to make the right decision that is a completely wrong view of me.
The debates here are no longer just about the article they are becoming personal. The main point for someone in an argument now is \”but you said this 3 weeks ago…\”, even if it has nothing to do with the current debate and discusses a different article or source. Some people are making assumptions about people when they know nothing about them or their views. Until that improves I am leaving this blog.
Goodbye.
November 5th, 2008 15:16
B,
Please don’t do that. Look this is really quite a friendly blog compared to others and despite what is often said nothing personal is really relevant.
We are all strangers on here, except through our posts so please reconsider and just lets have the benefit of your experience and intellect.
Over the months I sometime let fly and have taken deserved flack back. I do not now write all that I hear but wait for some confirmation then put in my twopenny worth.
Again I’m sure I write for all of us on here, reconsider and lets hear from you.
Please !
November 5th, 2008 15:33
Just because I said that I am stating what an article has said doesn’t mean I am getting personal with B or anyone. Clearly said (not my words).
And I was complimenting your very good explanations and opinions on Chelsy articles, but there is a clear tendency not towards Kate in all. You do not NEED to like Kate and I understand those opinions of who dislike her, don’t agree with her actions, hate her or whatever with her. One can tell B. But I haven’t bashed you for it, just giving an observation where its interesting and very common in many royal sites. Thats all.
I have a tendency in protecting Kate more then Chelsy, because articles are 10 to 1.
But as you may see and as I stated above, if I wished to publish something personal of what I have in power I would have, but I will never do so.
Anyway, please do not go away your opinions are interesting to read.
November 5th, 2008 15:45
Yes B don’t leave, we all on here respect your opinion. It can get alittle heated here from time to time but do stay with us. We have had other people here that has left like Will, Liz and many others so don’t leave. We like your comments. Ked I understand what you are saying and I was trying to say the same thing but in different words.
November 5th, 2008 15:48
So, after I sent in a comment asking if the Comment Checker at the Mail is the same person as the person at Royal Anecdotes — guess what, I was supposedly banned at RA for making political comments, although “Jan” “Gigi” and “Lisa” with her long-winded Obama editorials were not.
Was “Dan” ever at the IF as well? He seemed so familiar, and yet so far away.
Interesting — the plot thickens! Connecting the dots, ah, my favorite game!
PS Gerrard Tyrell, help!
November 5th, 2008 15:49
Thank you ked and Me for your kind words.
I am sorry Me if you did feel that I was not being fair in my judgement.
I can understand why you protect Kate more than Chelsy, I tend to protect Chelsy more than Kate because a) she is younger and sometimes acts that way and b) she has always got the negative press and called a party girl.
I’m going to take a break, I think, for a week or so. I’ll keep reading and will add my little comment if something big crops up. Pregnancy is screwing up my hormones anyway. LOL.
November 5th, 2008 15:51
Yes and they left because they couldn’t (they where my poster buddies and friends) stand the heat, was bad heat.
I didn’t mean to irritate her, but I think the Chelsy nerve was touched and bang. The above fellow posters where hit with the Kate nerve.
Sorry with a but, if and how I referred to Chelsy happens again, I will refer to FACTUAL PAST ARTICLES if anyone likes it or not. Its my choice if I DECIDE TO DISCUSS AND GIVE AN OPINION OR NOT about the ARTICLE.
We all have referred to ARTICLES on OTHER MEMBERS of the BRF and GIRLFRIENDS/BOYFRIENDS and as Rman says, sometimes there is heat.
B, if you read my above posts, you made me repeat to you 3 times that I was stating what the articles wrote about Chelsy, and you kept on hitting Me with: what you wrote, to finally end up with a Goodbye. gee whiz.
Even Ked has sent someone to crawl back…
November 5th, 2008 15:52
Thanks Rman as well (I was writing when you posted your comment).
I’ll just take a rest for a while, let morning sickness end.
BTW: strange alsgal, very strange, dont know what happened on RA.
November 5th, 2008 15:53
FLOWERS B.
November 5th, 2008 15:56
Well thanks Me for that.
Goodbye.
November 5th, 2008 15:57
FLOWERS to Me (and alsgal cos she has been banned from RA)
See you all soon.
November 5th, 2008 16:03
Alsgal/Dan where TOP contributors to the RA site, what a pitty. I know perfectly well that they will very much be missed by everyone.
November 5th, 2008 16:03
Me,
Why the “EVEN” ?
November 5th, 2008 16:07
B,
See you later then.
Take care, keep up with the vitamins and if you don’t feel like posting before please let those that are left know what and when.
Lots of love and best wishes
November 5th, 2008 16:12
Goodbye to you B, Gracie, Rman, etc. as I will surely be banned soon from this site as well.
Well, I’m off to go ghost surf — see ya in cyberspace!
November 5th, 2008 16:13
Ahh the Fjae crawl back to…I have an excellent memory Ked, maybe the peanuts do work.
On Alsgal/Dan, booted for politics and talking about memory, my royal administrator friend and at end his rules to his blog John had stated that McCain was going to win 4 sure about 4-5 months ago, so it must have been a pain in the b…to have day in and day out about the Obama 4 sure win, it was like everyone knew already like it or not. :shrug:
November 5th, 2008 16:15
Wow B, I wish you well also on the journey towards motherhood. Alsgal, I was kicked off of RA too so welcome to the club. Something is strange with RA now.
November 5th, 2008 16:18
B
I don’t think that that’s a great way to deal with this situation. I agree with you sometimes and sometimes I disagree but that is why we are all on here. I don’t think you should get mad because of one posting. Come on this this supposed to be fun. Ked gets just as much flack as you do and he takes it in his stride and gets on with it. He serves it as well as taking it.
It’s just not worth it to become upset about sometimes so trivial…
November 5th, 2008 16:23
This is hilarious!!
I was also kicked off of RA. John is a complete snob. I didn’t agree with his idea that William should follow inPrince Phillip footsteps as some of his (prince Phillip’s) comments have been questionable in the past (regarding race). John went on to make some very racist remarks and when I called him on it he banned me. So we are all in good company here!
Alsgal and Rman I love you guys so please don’t ever leave!!! This is all getting a little out of control. Can we just all take a breath and come back tomorrow once everyone has calmed down. I really enjoy this site and will really be upset if you leave.
November 5th, 2008 16:32
JJ it is funny I wouldn’t call John a snob but he has changed dramatically lately. Leave me to ask what happened? Now Alsgal, don’t you leave. What the hell is happening here? lol
November 5th, 2008 16:48
Rman,
Probably received his “chapter” card and found himself in same chapter as M/s Nicholl.
November 5th, 2008 16:49
Rman,
Sorry just thought of something funny.
Perhaps KN is his “father of the chapel”
November 5th, 2008 16:55
What is going on? I take a nap and wake to find my dearest Alsgal leaving?
November 5th, 2008 16:55
Hello,
Well I’m better than you people as I’ve not been kicked off the honourable order of the royal anectodians.
I think J sold out and now does as he’s told .
His new place in Exeter must be a bit draining .
November 5th, 2008 16:59
jj,
So sorry you don’t love me too
Better get used to me as it looks like we’ll be left high and dry with gracie and Rman
November 5th, 2008 17:04
Alsgal, banning you from RA is their loss. I don’t know what happened to that site but as I mentioned before I think that Katie Nicholl is involved. Although I have mentioned this before,I feel compelled to re state that this is the only site in which I post to. I know there is a Lisa at RA and it is not me.
Ked I know we have disagreed in the past however I think you are spot on in your post above regarding what is going on at RA.
November 5th, 2008 17:04
B, I am sorry you feel like you can post critical comments on Kate. I feel that way to sometimes. It’s nice to have people who have opposing views as to everything is ” hunky dory” all the time. I like that Rman is the eternal optimist and Ked likes to shake things up. I like Alsgal hilarity but she can go either way. I like that you too B, can give a different view but be logical about it. If we all agreed on here it would be too boring! We should all be able to talk about things and not feel attacked. So please reconsider.
November 5th, 2008 17:11
Ked
I just have favorites but I like you too!! As contraversial as you are you add a little spice. Sounds like you could be right as per Lisa and RA. Although I still think he is a snob sorry Rman!
Regarless I like everyone on here and I don’t want everybodies knickers to be getting into twists over nothing. B although sometimes I think you are harsh you are entitled to your opinion. Not everyone always agrees with me either.
Alsgal please come back don’t punish us for John snobbery!
November 5th, 2008 17:15
Ked, you should be honored to be graced by my company!
November 5th, 2008 17:21
Hi All,
Sorry to read the upset here today, and learn about the “shunnings” in RA-land
Have been reading RA a lot longer than this site and it has crossed my mind several times that John regularly posts to please some agenda at BP or CH. He was terribly quick to jump on the “William has run from Kate” bandwagon, and we know that would make some people at either royal residence very happy …..
Enjoy all of your insightful, intelligent posts and hope to continue reading them on a regular basis here ….
November 5th, 2008 17:24
Hi guys after reading some of your comments I think it is best to explain that I will only be going for a while.
I’m very tired at the moment due to being pregnant. I thought the second time was meant to be easier, it has suddenly become more tiring.
I try not to be harsh in my opinions jj, I know I am a cynic and a realist but I do feel that I have to be forceful sometimes to be heard as such. Leaving is not the result of one post it is something that I have considered for a while now.
Different opinions are important and it is good to accept diversity. I am very sorry about what is happening over at RA. They do not know what they are missing over there.
Thanks everyone for the support for the pregnancy. I don’t know what the gender is yet, my partner doesn’t want to know until the baby is born but I am getting very very very curious at times. The baby is due in May so I am only a few months pregnant but the morning sickness is wearing me out a bit. It’s at the peak at the moment I think so it should end soon around the 14th week mark…hopefully!
Keep well and I’ll let you know how the baby is doing. Bye gracie, ked, Me, jj, alsgal, Rman and to Trixie and lisa for when they post next time.
November 5th, 2008 17:36
gracie,
Of course I am but isn’t thayt very like the comment made by KM about PW.
Whoops
November 5th, 2008 17:41
Ked, I suppose it is. Of course it’s all in good humor!
November 5th, 2008 17:43
B,good luck with your pregnancy. My second one was not easier either. Try to rest when you can as you will need your energy later. Spring is a wonderful time to have a baby. I speak from experience on that one too! Who knows we may be celebrating another grand event in the spring along with the birth of your baby! Stay positive and healthy!
November 5th, 2008 17:50
Photos of PW at The Lord’s Mayor Appeal http://www.gettyimages.com
November 5th, 2008 17:54
Interesting point Stephanie
That didn’t even cross my mind that he could be being directed so to speak from the residences themselves.. I wonder who sponsors his website… That would be an interesting connection?? Usually the company which funds has the most say.
I mean I just write what is on my mind but there are people like Dan and Alsgal who have in my opinion studied the royal family for many years and knowledge is invaluable. Everyone’s opinion is important however which is why it’s sad when people’s noses become out of joint on trivial issues.The RA situation all very odd but it’s his loss not ours.
November 5th, 2008 17:56
gracie,thanks for the link. I hope that over time William begins to feel more comfortable with public appearances. He sure cleans up well and then there that smile..
November 5th, 2008 17:58
Perhaps Alsgal could begin her own site?? Her comments are always wonderful and would be greatly missed. (I’m a regular reader but rarely a postertby the way!)
November 5th, 2008 18:02
Lisa, I hope he does too. PW always does that thing with his hands.
November 5th, 2008 18:05
Well William really lights up a room, I often wonder how long will he do these engagements alone. But he really looks happy and I guess he had a great time with Kate at Birkhall.
November 5th, 2008 18:16
Happy pregnancy B.
Ked, woops.
November 5th, 2008 18:17
*Woops in ref to the “even”
November 5th, 2008 18:40
I know William wrings his hand when he is nervous. Not everyone is comfortable being the center of attention. This is one of the reasons why I think before long we will be seeing HRH Princess Catherine doing appearances while William is training for SAR. It is a perfect match.
November 5th, 2008 18:53
It is a perfect match, Lisa. It’s really odd, this black-out, I mean. But, she is working, staying low profile. Too bad, ’cause I miss her. I love the way she lights up around her family and PW. Why shouldn’t she go out, and enjoy herself!! I’m anxious for the b-day party. I wonder what she’ll wear. But regardless, she’ll be gorgeous on the arm of PW
November 5th, 2008 23:50
Funnily enough Lisa that is exactly what I thought when I saw the pictures which Gracie posted. KM by his side might actually reduce some of his anxiety…
November 6th, 2008 01:08
I agree that why I said before, how long will he continue to do these engagements alone. It’s nice to have someone there with you and for you to share that experience with. So many people think that her presence would overshadow the event but you can’t keep thinking that way. Yes she is a very beautiful woman but she would be there supporting him and the cause of the event.
November 6th, 2008 07:48
truthfully from his body language,he doesn’t want the attention and would likely be relieved that Kate takes some of it away. Relationships that work often involve two people who compliment each other meaning one is shy one is outgoing etc..I am not saying that William and Kate are opposite but lets face it they come from very different backrounds and both bring different life experiences to the table. For him,being around her and her “normal” family is probably a welcome change compared to the enviorment he lives in. This is most likely why he is seemingly so close to the Middleton clan. I would imagine the RF is happy William found someone who will embrace the public appearances and be comfortable with them. One thing you can’t have is a prince AND a princess uncomfortable at these events.
November 6th, 2008 09:10
Kate seems to have such a sunny, easy public personality. For example, she was the one on the ski slopes earlier this year who seemed unruffled by the throng of paparrazzi hounding the ski party. I agree that her different, likely more relaxed background has helped her. She would be such an asset to William at his public appearances.
Also,from the little we have seen via the Garter and Wings ceremonies so far, she seems to add shine to an event, yet at the same time remain focused on Prince William. That would truly be an asset to him.