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While we all wait for confirmation of whether or not Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy attended Prince Charles 60th Birthday celebrations, here’s a catch-up of happenings in the lives of the girlfriends of Prince William and Harry.
Chelsy Grows Up: Harry’s Girl Turns Up In Classy Black Gown – The Mail Online
We are accustomed to seeing her falling out of nightclubs with a drink or cigarette to hand. So Chelsy Davy was almost unrecognisable as she made her way to Clarence House in a long, demure black ball gown for a late night rendezvous with her boyfriend, Prince Harry…
Now Kate Middleton’s Little Sister, Pippa, Finds An Heir Of Her Own – The Mail Online
Social butterfly, Pippa Middleton – Kate’s younger sister – has split from Scottish aristocrat Billy More Nesbitt, but is wasting no time on the singles market. The 23-year-old party planner, who has a taste for wealthy men, is now stepping out with diamond heir, Simon Youngman…
Middleton Camp Is Fighting Back – Sunday Express
Despite his commitment to Kate Middleton, as emphasised by her appearance at last night’s Highgrove party, certain friends of Prince William have been urging him to enjoy himself and play the field while he can during his ongoing service with the RAF…
“Waity Katie”
There is seems to be no shortage of interest in Kate Middleton’s life. A new book is hitting the shelves soon and is entitled Kate: Princess in Waiting
Rumour also has it that Katie Nicholl, who writes for The Mail on Sunday and has broken many stories about Kate, is also planning to write a book about her.
I rather enjoyed that. The past is the past, yes, but it should not be forgotten....
November 16th, 2008 11:51
Chelsy did not attend Cheltenham Ladies College, she attended Cheltenham College. Two different schools! Just thought you might like to know to prevent any misunderstandings in the future.
November 16th, 2008 13:05
So now we know where KN got the “Waity Katie” from! It was what her collegues at DM called her before she was married.
November 16th, 2008 14:44
Thanks Britt. There seems to be some confusion out there as to which school Chelsy did attend – Cheltenham College, or Cheltenham Ladies’ College.
November 16th, 2008 20:24
it makes me really mad that PW’s friends try to belittle other people just because they are wealthy, aristocratic, and influential. Whatever job we have is ok as soon as it doesnt involve bringing damage to other people, and because those jerks were lucky to be born in aristocratic families doesnt mean that they are better than other people like to go to the extend of criticizing and judging them. Who the heck do they think they are to do that? Their moms may not have been air hostesses but those people suck on people’s taxes, isnt that a shame?
November 16th, 2008 21:03
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/3468876/Over-60-and-still-sexy-The-question-for-Prince-Charles-and-Rod-Stewart.html
Contrary to reports, one of Rod Stewart’s most famous songs was not banned from the Prince of Wales’ 60th celebrations, Mandrake hears. The rock singer belted out his hit Do Ya Think I’m Sexy to the delight of 250 guests and his wife Penny to end his set at Highgrove on Saturday night.
Stewart, 63, who waived his usual £1 million fee for the evening, tempted Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, 61, on to the dance floor along with Prince William, 26, and Prince Harry, 24, and their girlfriends Kate Middleton, 26, and Chelsy Davy, 23, during a performance which partygoers described as a “private pop concert”.
November 17th, 2008 05:36
it seems km is taking out of the spotlights.
November 17th, 2008 05:42
henry, aristocrats in the UK (other than the Royals) do not get any tax money and I very much doubt that any true friend of William’s ever spoke ill of the Middletons to the papers. They all appear very friendly with Kate. Obviously it is possible that some random aristocrat spewed venom against the Middletons but that just because someone is aristocratic doesn’t make them a friend of Williams.
November 17th, 2008 20:35
Despite the DMail story, I’ve read that Kate Middletoon did not attend either party and was no where in sight.
I doubt she was there at all.
November 17th, 2008 21:21
me
that article you just posted doesnt show any pictures of KM being in the party. The article mentions that she was there but how do we know that’s true when there are no proves.
I think the article is just making this up because if KM had been in the party we would’ve been able to see pictures of KM in the party.
November 17th, 2008 21:46
sonia,if Kate and William marry,will you require photographic proof that they actually consummated their union on their wedding night? Just asking…
November 17th, 2008 22:36
How is it we got photos of Chelsy in a black formal the night of one of the Parties and photos of Kings, Queens, Princes,Princesses and Royals arriving in full view of the cameras but somehow Ms. Middleton has not one photograph anywhere? I haven’t seen one photo of Kate and William together since the Wedding during the summer in Austria.
I just don’t believe they are together anymore.
This week there was a article in the Weekend Daily Express by Adam Helliker entitled, The Middleton’s Fight Back, I felt the article was a preemptive concerning something that may come out now since the parties are over.
November 17th, 2008 22:50
It is naive at best to presume that because William and Kate have not been photographed recently that they are not together any longer. I think there are a group of people out there who visit forums that are so upset by William and Kate’s relationship that they seem to try to twist every situation around to suit their desires. I recall reading recently one poster saying that she became depressed and despondent whenever she saw Kate pictured at family events or ceremonial events of William such as the wings and Garter ceremonies. It is never a good idea to become emotionally involved in the lives of people you don’t and never will know personally.
Eventually the public will know the real status of William and Kate’s relationship but it won’t be until they are ready to share it.
November 18th, 2008 01:31
lisa
there are certain things that we should see and certain things that we should never see. We cant request pictures of KM and PW having sex because it is supposed to be something private, but we can request pictures of them attending special family events because this is what all normal couples who are having a good relationship do. They attend events together. As Puoala mentions, how come we were able to see pictures of everyone except of KM?
Philip took autumn to family events right? and even william took KM to events back them when they were together. So if PW is still with KM how come we didnt see KM for this event?
November 18th, 2008 05:18
First, because they didn’t want us to see and that’s fine by me. Second, nobody cares about Peter Phillips and Autumn and third, who William chooses to bring to a PRIVATE family event is no one’s business but his own. You nor I have a right to see what goes on at their PRIVATE family gatherings. Their PRIVATE lives are not some window display for people to gawk at to satisfy unhealthy and obsessive interest or to vote yea or nay about whom William should be dating or what his partner should or should not be doing with her time.
November 18th, 2008 05:26
So many wanted Kate Middleton’s relationship with William to fail or at the least for her to disappear from in front of the camera lense. When she does just that, the cries for proof of her presence or absence are louder than the snotty remarks and vicious lies that have been slung at her on a daily basis for years.
Keep up the good work Kate and continue to keep your head down.
November 18th, 2008 06:08
Guest,I think the less we see of Kate while she is with William the closer she is to becoming an official member of William’s family. We don’t know where she is living and her movements are less trackable. We’ll just have to see what the next few weeks bring. As always,I remain skeptical regarding the insider information provided at this site over the last few days but I will say that the picture that was painted from inside Highgrove seems very realistic and included some information that I would not think one would go to the trouble to include if they were pulling off a hoax. We may have gotten lucky this time!
November 18th, 2008 08:21
I agree with you Lisa. I too think she and William are as close as ever. I also believe she was at two of the three birthday celebrations for Charles. I’m glad she’s out of sight, but sadly she is far from out of mind. I find it extremely funny that people who have hated her the most and wished for her to disappear are now pining for snaps of her like a long lost lover. And then I’d bet money that as soon as Kate IS snapped, they’ll attack her for courting or playing to the cameras.
Some people are crazy. I’ve been away from here for a while, but I see this site has been invaded and that they’re bashing this site at other awful royalty internet sites. I’m so very glad I have a life and am not sitting in front of a computer monitor on a daily basis praying for the breakup of a relationship of a woman who is dating a future monarch. That would make me pathetic and sad.
November 18th, 2008 08:38
Okay half of what you say I agree Gracie, I’ve read in many royal sites the wishing of the opposite of what they wished before. And when they wished her to do something and did it, they raise the bar higher just to bash her again.
But not all posters are like that, its just a few whom change their mind from one minute to another. I am positive that if Kate Middleton would have been the one to appear in the sidewalk of Clarence House in a long dress, everyone knows what the comments and pages of bashing she’d get.
November 18th, 2008 08:39
Gracie no, Guest.
November 18th, 2008 09:06
Me, fill me in on what post of mine you are commenting too. I wrote yesterday and I have a bad memory. Thanks! Most of those people on the other sites IF don’t like KM and no matter what she does regardless if its good they find fault in it. I know she is not a perfect person, but there are usually endearing qualities to be found in most of us, except maybe Charles Manson. On the other blog it is just negative all the time. Which I don’t agree with, cause nothing is black and white.
November 18th, 2008 09:10
“Me November 18th, 2008 08:21
I’m so very glad I have a life and am not sitting in front of a computer monitor on a daily basis praying for the breakup of a relationship of a woman who is dating a future monarch. That would make me pathetic and sad”
And just what exactly are you doing? Sat in front of a computer commenting on a monarch and his girlfriend who wouldn’t know if you were dead or alive!
Just because you don’t agree with some members doesn’t mean you have the right to bash them and act superior. I don’t agree with all those members who wish Will and Kate to split up, but I don’t go around trying to make them look “pathetic” on the internet.
November 18th, 2008 09:25
Britt, Good point. Most people have a life and also enjoy discussing royals.
I don’t understand why it is bad to have an nterest like this one. I don’t get why “Me” thinks royal watchers are “pathetic and sad.”
Gracie, Your view of those who do not agree with you is very black and white. I think you have the same exact problem as those you are putting Kate down, just flipped around.
Not addressed to anyone in particular, but it is human to like some people and to dislike others. We all do it all day long. So why can’t someone simply like Kate Middleton and why can’t others simply dislike Kate Middleton.
To say everyone must like Kate is like saying everyone must want to be in love with your husband, boyfriend, partner, etc. because you like them, for example. There are a million other examples.
Who you choose to be with, friends, lovers, etc. has everything to do with your life experiences, personal tastes, perferences, culture, education, etc. It is a very personal choice. Having preferences and likes and dislikes is human nature so why criticize human nature? Doesn’t make any sense to me to call people names because they just don’t like Kate. Some do and some don’t and it will always be that way.
November 18th, 2008 09:27
There are a fair number of royal watchers and their assistants who visit these sites to monitor the content, as well as the odd government agency looking for cuckoos (over here, boys!
) so you just never know who is posting. It’s probably a good idea to treat everyone with respect, no matter what their opinion.
For all we know some of the “haters” might be members of a royal family member’s staff trying to encourage a bit of criticism so they can ascertain how the public really feels, or to gauge what the typical man-in-the-street reaction might be.
You just never know.
November 18th, 2008 09:31
alsgal,
I really like the way you think! LOL!
November 18th, 2008 09:46
PH, never said that.
Gracie I corrected myself, referring to Guest, but you have a point.
November 18th, 2008 09:56
PH/Britt, when quoting or referring to a poster, please make sure your quoting the correct person. If mistaken correct yourself, both of you are quoting “Me” and its not me, totally mistaken and wrong wrong wrong.
Back to the no news, I think she will remain out of the limelight for a long time.
November 18th, 2008 11:31
I’m so sorry!! You can tell how annoyed I was! I was actually referring to ‘Guest’. Thanks for pointing it out
November 18th, 2008 12:17
ME I apologize, I will be more careful in the future. I hope there will be no hard feelings.
November 18th, 2008 12:57
Everything is cool
Just a smooth quoting correction, no one is perfect, no even Kate.
November 18th, 2008 13:35
Me, LOL!
November 18th, 2008 14:08
Guest
if you think this is no one’s businesses whom PW is dating, then ask steven to delete this website so that nobody is going to be voicing out their opinions. This website is to express our points of views.
Britt
You may be right when it comes to PW and KM being closer than ever, but you may be wrong as well. No one for sure knows what’s going on their relationship. To me, it looks like they already broke up because it is a big coincidence that we got to see everyone at the party except KM. If she was closer to PW than ever, then I see no reason as to why she should be hiding. But I may be wrong as well.
November 18th, 2008 14:11
We didn’t see William, Charles,Camilla, Harry or Chelsy at the party either …
November 18th, 2008 14:27
PH, I have many views. I am neither black nor white on my opinions as others on this blog can atest. I am in the grey area. I don’t know what is going on with KM or PW any more than others on this blog do. Sometimes I think they will break up, sometimes I think its over, and then sometimes I have no clue. I do believe that most of the members on IF dislike Kate. Some act like high school kids and maybe they are. I think that most people who are married, like myself (15yrs) or have been in a long term relationship knows that it does have its ups and downs. It takes hard-work, faith, love and trust to make it work. I am also a realist. I believe that their are courtiers who would rather have there titled daughters married to PW, than KM. These people have been aligning themselves w/RF for centuries and they all want is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. These people will leak negative stories to the papers, etc. to sully her rep. I also think that KM does not always help her situation by the way she behaves and the same goes for PW.
November 18th, 2008 14:50
I agree with you gracie.
We should be in the grey area because despite what we think, we dont know what’s happening to KM and PW.
And when it comes to courtiers who would like to see their daughters married to PW instead of KM, I believe that it is kind of sad that PW is viewed only as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and not at his person.
Probably this is a reason why wiliam would never marry one of these girls and he may have chosen KM instead (if they are still together.)
November 18th, 2008 15:02
If William wanted to propose there is nothing stopping him. Kate is no longer even with him as a serious girlfriend, it’s been whispered for weeks. He will go to RAF and slowly move on.
November 18th, 2008 15:06
may puaola, may be.
November 18th, 2008 15:32
Hi All,
Found a web page some here might enjoy seeing.
http://tinyurl.com/5d8lgc
Ked had noted that the dates for Peter’s wedding likely did not correspond with Batian Craig’s.
This is a web page associated with Batian’s wife, Melissa. Note the comment posted in 2007 regarding the 2008 wedding and marathon. (Scroll down to the comments section.)
November 18th, 2008 15:51
Stephanie, not sounding rude but what’s the point? It was Hugh Crossley that wrote the comment Jecca fiancee, so maybe he was refering to their pending nuptials?
November 18th, 2008 15:56
Stephanie thanks for the link. When did that marathon take place?
November 18th, 2008 15:59
I think that what Stephanie is saying is that the comment was made in May 2007 & talked about a wedding next year ie. 2008. So the note is implying that the marathon on 23 June 2008 is just AFTER their wedding – which would make the wedding in May 2008, which does infact coincide roughly with Peter Philip’s wedding on 18th May – allowing for a honeymoon.
Stephanie, have I got that right? Wow what a detective!!
November 18th, 2008 16:00
Event: Lewa Marathon
Event Date: 23rd Jun 2008
November 18th, 2008 16:24
Thanks, Me. Does anyone remember Will and Kate’s alias names? It would not happen to be Willy and Sue would it?
November 18th, 2008 16:41
Martin and Rosemary – Seychelles ring a bell (according to the tabloids).
November 18th, 2008 16:46
Hi All,
Sorry, my work schedule lately makes it difficult to post regularly. H and Me, thank you for standing in. I suspect the Craig/Duveen wedding may have followed the Phillips wedding, since the events are six weeks apart. This would lend support to Ked’s theory.
Have a couple more avenues to explore regarding the timing of the African wedding….
November 18th, 2008 16:53
Wills didn’t go to the homeland China farewell party of P&A either.
November 18th, 2008 16:58
Thanks again me, too bad, I had hoped it was them donating money together in May 2007…
When did that farewell party take place?
November 18th, 2008 17:04
Not sure of the date, but after William was clear from the Navy and Mustique holidays with Kate’s family. I’m starting to believe there was an actual fallout during (last day, immediately after) the stag at IoW.
November 18th, 2008 17:11
http://melissaandbatian.com/
November 18th, 2008 17:19
Ok someone close just sent proof of the Wedding date, seems to be same as P&A weekend.
Great
November 18th, 2008 17:48
Thanks G2!! Guys, we obviously have a wealth of information appearing here.
We have just received CONCRETE proof of the date of Batian and Melissa Craig’s wedding, and it was the EXACT SAME DATE as Peter and Autumn’s wedding!!
This means that all the naysayers who said the Craig wedding didn’t take place that weekend, or didn’t take place at ALL, have been proven wrong.
This also means that William is off the hook from all of those nefarious motives that were ascribed to him. It was a simple conflict of dates. As I often say, the most logical and common sense explanation is usually the correct one. This time that was certainly proven true.
Thanks again G2.
November 18th, 2008 18:04
How wonderfull
November 18th, 2008 18:14
Wow, Thank you, G2!
Perhaps there are a few other burning questions you might be able to shed some light on ….
November 18th, 2008 18:26
Throw in and leave !
Love it.
November 18th, 2008 19:12
Sonia, Good post!
Gracie, Thanks for addressing my misperceptions and sharing your point of view. So hopefully, no hard feelings over this. OK?
What is IF?
Congratulations on reaching 15 years of marriage! I am impressed.
November 18th, 2008 19:18
It looks like PP changed their site a bit.
November 18th, 2008 19:24
PH, of course there are no hard feelings. We all try to give are opinions and respect what others say even if we may not agree!
Wow, that’s some find on the Craig wedding. It’s amazing how people just pop up w/the info out of the blue. Gosh if we had got that info after the wedding do you know how much typing we could have saved due to this concrete evidence? I wonder what Ked’s going to think about this? We have people reading our blogs w/inside knowledge. I remember looking all over the internet when the wedding happened trying to find info or photos of Ian/Melissa. I am a skeptic at heart, try not to be, but I for one hope to be proven wrong on other theories. Good bit of news!
November 18th, 2008 19:27
Sorry for double post. Rman, trying to check PP out, my computer is slow today. Have they taken KM picture down or something?
November 18th, 2008 19:32
No, they just changed their About Us page.
November 18th, 2008 19:33
It looks like Harry is getting ready to start his training.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1945693.ece
November 18th, 2008 19:47
Rman, yes they have removed photos of the staff/packers. I did notice that they have a save a reindeer in Glenmore Scotland gift. No very interesting, but nice to look out for the deers!
November 18th, 2008 21:08
G2,
Thanks for that great link! You have thrown us all for a loop.
This sheds some interesting light on all that is KED. I wonder what gives with him????????????
November 18th, 2008 21:12
TeaTea,can you elaborate on your comment regarding ked?
November 18th, 2008 21:38
Lisa,
Ked had insinuated on a different thread that there was no wedding in Kenya that same weekend as Peter Philips wedding. That Prince Williams was in fact in London and simply didn’t want to go to the wedding. Ked, in my opinion, is often bragadocious, that he is “in” and well-connected, and therefore has inside knowledge. This proves that not is not the case at all.
November 18th, 2008 21:47
Healthy discussions, raising a brow, why not better have a tet a tet without calling names. 1 website proof versus Ked’s theory. Is there any other proof of William at Batains wedding, like a photo perhaps of the happy couple and the “guest of honor”.
PS: IMHO Prince William was at the Kenyan wedding. But I have to play the devils advocate here when I see name calling – bragadocious – LMAO, please guys, ya know cool it.
November 18th, 2008 21:57
Me,
I apologize, I didn’t mean to call anyone any names. However, I find that certain people claim to know “inside” information constantly, and puts us all into a tailspin. It really makes me wonder, why would anyone insinuate emphatically that they know something, if they don’t…..just curious.
Again, sorry…”bragadocious” pretty big word isn’t it??????
November 18th, 2008 21:57
Yes cool it. Now on to something different. Have you guys ever seen a picture of the late Princess of Wales at the State Opening of Parliament? If not here is some pictures.
http://tinyurl.com/6bztkn
How I do miss that lady.
November 18th, 2008 22:09
Rman,
Lovely pictures, great link. There where a few pics I had never seen before.
November 18th, 2008 22:12
Yes it is – hadn’t heard or read that word so long. Ah our friend Ked has had some beating – sometimes – but with a friendly tet a tet we get along. Yes sometimes we’ve had the heated discussion
November 18th, 2008 22:47
“if you think this is no one’s businesses whom PW is dating, then ask steven to delete this website so that nobody is going to be voicing out their opinions. This website is to express our points of views.”
Expressing a ‘point[] of view” and tearing someone to shreds, smearing, and pulling outright lies out of places the sun doesn’t shine doesn’t count as a point of view. It is bashing. And it’s increased since I’ve posted here months ago.
IF ** are transparent. And yes, most definitely pathetic and sad.
November 18th, 2008 23:03
Wow Rman those pictures are amazing!! Although I didn’t know here I still miss her and still wonder what she would be doing now if she were here.
November 18th, 2008 23:33
Does anyone know if the Middleton’s were paid for the Hello magazine article this month?
November 19th, 2008 00:12
Tea Tea
Honestly I just think that Ked likes messing with everyone on here. He probably brought up the Dublin sightings and the Jecca Craig wedding to deflect the hostility which happened when I thought he was John from RA. It worked and we all talked about something else for a while. So no harm no foul but great exercise in distraction…
November 19th, 2008 02:10
Guest:
Just because an opinion is not positive, it does not mean it is bashing. Just because it differs from your opinion it does not mean it is not a valid PoV.
Now, we respect your point of view and read you posts and consider them. However, we all expect the same back, so can you please stop criticizing those people who have different views to you. Nobody is bashing except yourself.
jenny: Is that you from months ago, who disappeared or another jenny? Are you back now?
jane: Hello, I don’t think I’ve seen one of your posts before so welcome. I doubt that they were paid because it was a general article rather than an interview.
November 19th, 2008 05:48
I think Guest means exactly the words tearing and smearing which might be related to a very small hand counted number of people not named. Which utra opposite lovey dovy happens too. But hate versus love, ahhh…
Your a pretty much balanced poster B. I think not everyone here goes to any extremes.
Back to the non news of the most seeked couple in the planet, do you think the Middleton family will spend Christmas holidays abroad or in the UK ?
November 19th, 2008 07:36
Yes Me, a very small group who travel from site to site, in attempts to invade sites like this one where the insane and manic daily bashing of Kate Middleton is kept to a minimum.
I’m now suspicious of the poster who mysteriously showed up here a few days ago claiming to be from France with a sister who worked at Charles’ 60th birthday party. I suspect that poster was an imposter from a Kate hate forum.
So yes, I am suspicious of and antagonistic towards negative remarks made about Kate Middleton here because that’s how the smears and lies begin at non-hate sites like this one. Very innocently, masked as “an opinion.” Attacks and lies are not opinions. They are baseless smears.
November 19th, 2008 07:44
This garbage is a concerted effort to debase Kate Middleton. It has worked as I have seen these attacks and their language, i.e. \”Waity Katy,\” which was coined at a virulent Kate hater site, creep into tabloid coverage of Kate Middleton over the last year. It\’s disgusting. This is a decent site with great posters of all opinions. I would hate to see it descend into a gutter of lies and vicious innuendo.
November 19th, 2008 07:50
B, hope all is going well w/you and your feeling better! You are able to get your point across in an intelligent, mature manner. Whereas some of the other sites can be just vile. We can ususally tell who those bloggers are cause they randomly post here and they stand out like a sore thumb! I would hope that Guest would not be refering to your comments as well thought out and not intended to smear anyone.
Did anyone notice Pippa at the opening of the Somerset ice rink? I think that’s the name? Anyway, I like her vest. I looks like sheepskin w/some type of fox collar. Is that the same rink KM and PW went to last year? I loved those photos as they were just doing something normal besides going to clubs. I wish we would get some photos.
November 19th, 2008 07:56
I have a few photos of the evening. Not too sensational. I post soon
November 19th, 2008 08:03
Gracie I’m addressing no one in particular. It’s a message to any lurker from the other sites that I’m on to “you.” (Not any one in particular.)
November 19th, 2008 08:15
Looks like perhaps it wasn’t Kate jetting off to Dublin, but instead Carole:
http://tinyurl.com/6b75ew
November 19th, 2008 08:26
Thanks s.
Good to know about Carole and Dublin.
November 19th, 2008 08:29
Guest, I get it now. I read over at the other blog and they have been chattering alot about BRW lately.
I am surprised that Ked has not made a comment about the Craig info we recieved. Perhaps he is out-of-town again. Usually he is up for a good debate and the info seems to atleast give us the impression that the time does correspond to PP vows.
I do hope that PM takes caution as to not overexpose herself to the press. I think to much publicity is not a good thing as it can backfire. I know she must live her life as well, but it is not just KM image that tarnished, it is also the Midds family as a whole. Since it seems KM is trying to lay low and improve her PR, I would think PM being so visable might hurt what it is they are trying to fix. Even though it is KM who might marry PW and not her sister,what her family does can effect the rebuilding of her image as well. Or maybe this is part of the plan? Make PM more visable so less attention will be paid to KM? JMO.
November 19th, 2008 08:35
Me, good work. How you find that? I know Km attended an exibition there w/her mother for the same friend. I believe that was last year during the time of their breakup. I could have the dates wrong. Interesting. If you go by what Ked says KM went to Dublin on two different occasions. So perhaps it was her mother. I don’t know how Ked would know that she was going there as it has not been in the public domain until this story of CM.
November 19th, 2008 08:37
Me, meant Ella Kay. Sorry for the mix up!!
November 19th, 2008 08:40
Thanks for the link Ella Kay.Some great detective work going on here recently!
Does anyone know what sort of relations the Middletons have to Dublin? Why they attend art exebitions there regularly?
November 19th, 2008 08:42
Gracie: “Guest, I get it now. I read over at the other blog and they have been chattering alot about BRW lately.”
Gracie, I’m not lying about what goes on and what they will try to pull.
November 19th, 2008 09:15
Maybe she goes to a secret society
Maybe she is home studying and goes once in a while for examinations
Most likely they have whatever very good connections before we knew who the Middleton family was, they seem to go yearly.
November 19th, 2008 09:38
Gracie, that’s right I think it was the same Gemma Billington who Carole and Kate visited during their April, 2007 visit to Dublin because how many Gemma Billington’s could there be?
As far as getting paid for the Hello! article, I think the Middletons wouldn’t do it that way. There would probably be an understanding between the Middleton “source” and Hello! that if the “source” gave them some info about Kate, that Hello! would respond by giving the story a more positive angle than say, the Daily Mail! would.
I see nothing wrong with Kate’s “source” speaking OTR to Hello!, as Hello!@&! is a marvelously positive and upbeat publication which is why, despite having to live on tins of tuna and go without electricity 10 days per month, I would never let my subscription expire. There are priorities, and there are priorities, and bathing on a daily basis is not one of them. Just my 2 cents, but not a lot of common sense.;)
Don’t worry all, the Christmas season is soon upon us and I’m confident we’ll get a few pics of Their Royal Onffnesses before long.:)
November 19th, 2008 10:05
@gracie: The article came across Google alerts. It’s not a story I’ve been following for my blog, but I’d seen it mentioned here, so I thought I’d pass it along. Glad it was of interest!
November 19th, 2008 10:32
I just found this artical. I have to admitt that it’s true. The paps acted too crazy at the Roller Disco event. I mean the security had to surround Kate just to get her out of the place in one piece. So I somehow think this is the main reason she is just laying low for awhile. She is going to need a protection officer with her now I think.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24675608-2702,00.html
November 19th, 2008 10:41
Well Pippa looks good out there skating. Maybe we will see W&K skating soon, like last time. All seem to be well and not off like many think.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/film/2008/11/19/emma-watson-icerink/
November 19th, 2008 10:57
Imagine that, Pippa ice skating with the likes of Torvill and Dean — now that’s A list for sure!
I agree, William and Kate must surely be “on” as a couple for Pippa to attend an event such as this — as I don’t think they let in “just anybody” into Somerset House. I hate to say it, but it seems like she was allowed to skate there on the basis of her royal connections. That’s OK, but surely they will also realise Pippa has become an important person in her own right thanks to her VIP position in the catering industry. I’m glad to see Hello! covered it, as it’s always exciting to see what she’ll wear.
Her Mr. Cutie Pie wasn’t with her, though.
November 19th, 2008 11:22
If KN (DM) will connect all the 3-5 cutie pies that seem to be just male friends of Pippa and the way KN writes her articles of the supposed boyfriend (s) she has had . Then KN has an agenda on the Middleton Family.
If one person at this time and age and era is single, its normal to date with different boys, it doesn’t mean she is sleeping with every single one of them. Cartier Polo one guy, the whatever opening of a club another guy.
I hope Katie Nicholl would just shut her trap and crawl into her office doing something else for the paycheck.
November 19th, 2008 11:41
Me, I think that “something” KN will be doing is supposed to be “Middleton: Portrait of a Dynasty 1758-2008″ because there is a limit to the number of stories she can do on “Jordan and Peter: the Love Story.”
I figure we are going to get a rehash of all her Mail articles, plus a one page end chapter that, as W&K will still be in committal limbo, will speculate with Profound Wisdom that “William obviously loves Kate, and Kate obviously loves William, but until William is ready, Kate will have to wait.”
We can all just press the snooze button regarding this pair until at least 2012, as it is truly now only a question of when, and not if.
November 19th, 2008 11:48
Of course, slapping my forefront, Middletons is her cashcow.
The next Pippa male friend who will suddenly turn into her “boyfriend”, will be a Rich Russian Oil Tycoon, picture taking only 1 or 2 timed events, to go onto the next one, by 2012 she will have had 30 boyfriends.
Like ruin me Katie.
November 19th, 2008 12:12
What’s interesting in the article Rman listed is that Kate has not been seen out therefore no photos. She did have alot of pap problems but they went to court and made them back off some. So I am not sure when they say she is being hounded by the paps, when are they refering to? I can’t imagine they are talking currently cause there are no photos of her.
Alsgal, the Cill Rialaig Lunch in Dublin that CM attended w/friend, is the same friend that I believe owns a gallery there. I think its weird how Kate going to Dublin was mentioned in this blog and the next thing you see is an article saying CM was the one in Dublin. Someone is watching! Maybe KM has photos displayed at this gallery or something?
November 19th, 2008 12:26
Someone needs to give our BRW detectives a Scooby snack!
That might be the inside story Gracie, as we all know Kate is a woman of many talents and ambitions, so I think that would be fantastic if she was able to show her work at her Mum’s friend’s gallery.
I found that comment by Lord Justice Baker Snott interesting as well — the last time I saw that Kate was hounded (in the Diana sense) was on her 25th birthday. The other times we’ve only seen one to four paps, and they appear to have kept a respectable distance as we never see any of them right up next to Kate. Plus, she’s always smiling happily at them, and has been known to chat with them a bit, so “hounded” is not the word I’d choose, either.
There might have been a threatened lawsuit, as why else are there no photos of Kate — although wouldn’t Carole Middleton authorise Gerrard Tyrrell to act equally protectively on Pippa’s behalf? Pippa is papped at least twice a week these days.
Surely, Carole loves her Pipster too, so why would the blackout not extend to Pippa, as she is even more of a private citizen? Strange.
November 19th, 2008 12:52
Gracie some cases take years to discuss, look at Diana for example, 11 years later.
What the Lord Justice KNOWS and we don’t is a mystery. Perhaps the rollerdisco and Buckleberry – blackberry pictures give “more” evidence to his discussion in that seminar.
November 19th, 2008 12:55
It just reminded me of contradictory articles, some stated that Beatrice bodyguard helped Kate (they are friends) during and leaving the rollerdisco (he must have been a witness to the overswell of paps), while other articles said Beatrice cried and the York girls are enemies of the Middleton girls.
Then comes Sarah flying to the BRW and said Kate and Bea chatted very friendly at the Highgrove 60th bash !
LOL
November 19th, 2008 12:58
This is old but gives an insight into how they know each other. Since i’m living in Dublin I’ll keep my eyes peeled for Kate sightings!!
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/kate-middletons-irish-friend-on-the-lovely-girl-she-knows-124336.html
http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/news-gossip/the-paintings-not-the-prince-124222.html
November 19th, 2008 13:05
Yeah I see what you guys are saying. I just thought that charity event coverage was a little crazy. I think Pippa nearly got hit in the head by a camera that night. I think her next charity event will have to be more controlled. That’s why I said that this girl needs to be protected more. But I guess she protected more than ever, where she is now.
November 19th, 2008 13:28
Hi everybody, Just one thing regarding my previous mails. Everything I said (the presence of zara, anne’s husband without his wife, béatrice, kate and chelsy not arrived the same day, was said hours before one of you check the internet and found (on rex) the same thing. So I am not Mrs Irma, I just said the truth. Nobody can know that because if you check my posts they are many hours before you had the same infos via sources like internet… Why think Kate was in dublin? So now I have a few photos to share of the dîner in Highgrove…not very interested ones (the staff in the office preparing the buffet, the preparation of tables with flowers, and the stage with some musicians) dont ask how I get them ! But I repeat nothing terrific but I accept to share. One thing … I dont know how to attached photos… Can you help me? Just one thing, I feel tired so maybe (after you explain how I can do) I post this evening, but quite frankly I think I’ll do it on saturday. Days are exhausting because of my pregnancy, so be kind. I check properly the photos to be sure nothing can be damages ! thanks for your help and again, first I dont lie (not for that) and second maybe I post the photos on saturday (just forgive for the delay but the days are very long). Have all a very nice evening. Sarah
November 19th, 2008 13:33
Me,
You are corrent, there was a controversy about Beatrice and Euguenie mad at The Middletons, as Kate did not invite them to the roller disco, and they (B&E) not making room for Pippa to sit in the front row at some fashion show. In fact there are pictures of Beatrice at the Roller Disco:
http://www.rexfeatures.com/search/?kw=kate+middleton&iso=GBR&viah=Y&lkw=&stk=N&sft=&search_oldest.x=-1
oh well….
November 19th, 2008 13:34
It was crazy and the roller disco party organisers must have expected it or they wouldn’t have had the Skate Bouncers there.
Perhaps Kate should be doing the quiet sort of charity work like William’s mum did — and that W&H are known to do themselves — like going into hospitals late at night and such, instead of attempting these things which turn into a media circus.
Wasn’t Diana usually left alone when she visited the Aids patients and so on during off hours? It would seem like if Diana could manage that, being much more famous then Kate, then that should give Kate some hope too that she can pursue that sort of charity work if she so wishes.
Charity work doesn’t need to be undertaken with the full glare of publicity. I’m sure Kate can, or perhaps has, already figured that out.;)
November 19th, 2008 13:42
Thanks for the links, Shivs.
sarah I’d love to help but I have no idea either.
November 19th, 2008 14:32
thanks for the links shivs.
November 19th, 2008 14:39
Alsgal I agree, that is what I have been saying for along time now. We don’t know if she’s been doing that already but if not, that’s what she needs to do. Getting involved in charities and organizations will be very helpful to her. Get a couple of patronages under her belt. Things she really care about. It will truly turn things around.
November 19th, 2008 14:40
Tea Tea there are photos also of Pippa sitting front row with a blond at the Issa London Fashion. She wasn’t in no back seat et all.
November 19th, 2008 15:14
Sarah, would like to see the photos if you have time.
As for posting photos, I don’t think you can do it directly on this blog. You may want to use a free photo hosting site, such as freeimagehosting.net, upload the photos, and post the links on this blog. To do that, copy the “Thumbnail code for websites, MySpace, and eBay” into this blog.
TeaTea, somehow I never bought the Beatrice-Middleton “conflict.” To deny Pippa a seat because of missing an invitation sounds a bit petty and childish. In short, it sounds like Katie Nicholl. I’m sure Beatrice is much more savvy than that.
November 19th, 2008 16:00
I think many of us here are coming to the conclusion that Katie Nicholl needs to stop covering the Royals, and instead start writing science fiction novels, because she’s no more clued in than any of us are, and I would argue she’s not half as clued in as my esteemed fellow BRWers. Royal expert, my –
As far as the Bea/Pippa “conflict” it’s always sounded like bunk to me.
November 19th, 2008 16:29
I hope there’s some Royal sighting this week. Charles’ birthday is over so there’s no need to lay low any longer.
Does anyone know what William is currently doing? Harry started pilot training but William’s reportedly doesn’t start before January. The Royal Diary doesn’t list any further engagements for William this year either. So what is he up to right now?
November 19th, 2008 17:00
sarah
Can’t wait to see the photos! Photobucket is another good website to upload your pictures on and then post a link. Link is below!
http://photobucket.com/
November 19th, 2008 17:04
He’s probably taking a peacefull rest before the 18 months plus 36 months of RAF.
November 19th, 2008 19:13
Sarah,
Thank you for all of your information. If you want to post pictures, you have to upload the photographs from your computer to a hosting site, like Photobucket.
jj posted the link to the photobucket website in her post, if your are not sure how it works, photobucket is a good place to start. I will tell you how to put a picture link into your Comment.
Getting a photobucket account is free, and once you have the account, you just click the “choose files” button in the “Upload Images and Videos” box.
A window will open, and you just choose the pictures on your computer that you want to upload to photobucket. Once the pictures are uploaded, you just click on the picture, and when it opens, then you copy the “Direct Link”. You paste the copied Direct Link into your Comment like this:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z120/mapleleaf07/Castle_in_Wexford.jpg
November 19th, 2008 19:45
I was reading in the Irish Herald, the same one about CM going to Dublin. Anyway there was another article from October talking about how PP sales have been doing well inspite of the economy and most of their party supplies are shipped to Ireland. They say the Irish are interested in buying from PP because of the KM/PW interest. The article goes on to say that it takes 5days for delivery to Ireland. So perhaps KM/PP are thinking about a PP store in Dublin if their items are so popular there.
November 19th, 2008 21:24
Well congrats to the Queen & Duke of Edinburgh on 61 years of marriage.
I remember ITV said that they have a documentary on William & Kate to come out when they make their announcement. God I hope we will get to see that doc soon.
November 20th, 2008 08:15
From Cindy Adams
New York Post
Kate Middleton moving closer and closer (pardon the phrase) to Britain’s Prince William, so nasties are humphing she “targeted” him early on. Well, who else should she target? A Lehman bookkeeper?
LMAO
November 20th, 2008 08:40
What does she mean “moving closer and closer”? She has been his g/f for 5 years and and a friend for even longer – how much closer can she get? She doesn’t need to “target” him – she’s had him on her leash for quite a while…
November 20th, 2008 08:47
Cindy message is confusing. I think she and Joan Rivers are good friends. Maybe Joan gave her some scoop when she returned to the states? I know Joan was back here pretty quick as she was on QVC selling her jewelry I believe on Monday. I can’t imagine though that Joan would anyway want to sever her ties to C&C w/gossip though. Although if that is the whole article, it really does not give away much. I would take it as either KM is moving in w/PW or the are getting married. How much closer can you get to a man than marriage or having his child?
November 20th, 2008 08:58
Cindy is a NY gossip columnist who usually gives one liners to tease, but when she does she usually knows something is up. I agree Gracie – Joan must have given her a little info and CA revealing it in such a small way would not alert BP. I think she knows that an engagement is coming.
November 20th, 2008 09:07
I was not aware of the meaning of “humphing.” I know what humping is, but not humphing. So looked it up in the urban dictionary and it means “pissed off.” With these columnist, the use certain words and their wording of phrases is very intentional. She could have used a easier discription, but I believe she wants the readers to read between the lines.
November 20th, 2008 09:13
It’s just plain jealousy is what it is. Even if KM had “targeted” PW early on, that does not mean she could make him love her or want to marry her or stay w/her for 5yrs. I guess this all comes down to the class issue once again, cause if KM was the daughter of a duke or earl she would not be pissing off nasties!
November 20th, 2008 09:23
“She chased him until he caught her” will always come to mind when I think of how the PW and KM love story is being portrayed in the press.
Assuming that PW must love her and that they are still together, his reluctance to make an honest woman of Kate after 5 years of dating has had the unfortunate result of making her look like a lazy golddigger willing to put up with anything to get that ring. Even the normally pro-monarchy Daily Telegraph portrayed Kate and her ilk as goldiggers back in 2005/2006, so I can only imagine what the average subject thinks of her (and PW) now. People are far more cynical now than they were 5 years ago. When even Ingrid Seward asks, what’s Kate supposed to do in the meantime, it’s not a good sign at all.
Kate’s noble efforts of charity have come across more as being self-promoting and somewhat embarrasing publicity attempts, and even with her current employment situation, it wouldn’t matter how hard she might actually be working, as few are inclined to believe it based on her “Waity Katy Lifestyle” over the majority of the time spent in the public eye.
I’m afraid at this point it is true what many people are saying: that this is not coming across as the glorious love story we here at BRW know it to be, but rather as a friendly arragement between one ambivalent partner and one very highly motivated one.
To be thought of as Prince William’s wife mostly by default is surely not beneficial to any of them from a PR point of view.
It will be interesting to see how they spin this in another 2-4 years when PW and KM finally make it up the aisle. They can’t package her as an innocent virgin bride, and they can’t sell her as a career woman either.
The “college sweethearts until he dumped her for the ?th time and she took to the discos” angle won’t appeal to the old granny monarchists. The not-very-productive-but-she pleases-her-petulant-Prince angle has already been taken up by Camilla.
So, how to spin Kate?
November 20th, 2008 09:26
“The nasties are humphing”, in other words, those who dislike her are pist off.
“Well, who else should she target? A Lehman bookkeeper?” Ah Cindy Adams is so funny and sarcastic, in other words, Lehman Brothers was the first company to declare bankrupcy – Chapter 11 with the windfall of the stockmarket – credit crunch. The Kate haters would wish she would TARGET a Lehman bookkeeper (the first ones who regretfully got jobless).
Joan Rivers is a very good friend of Cindy Adams, figure it out.
November 20th, 2008 09:32
Alsgal,
Once again – great synopsis.
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Regarding the comment by Cindy Adams, truth be told she is often in the know, and often gets the bragging rights of, “I told you so”- so I take her mention of Kate and William in her column as a sign that an engagement is forthcoming, and soon.
Gracie – good call on her being good friends with Joan Rivers, I would say that is how she got the scoop.
November 20th, 2008 09:34
Alsgal if it takes 2-4 years to engage, rebranding Kate is a piece of cake.
November 20th, 2008 09:35
Gracie, just saw your post. I agree that a lot of the goldigging issue actually seems to be a class issue, but many would say the very well-off girls who are truly repelled by the publicity and “the baggage that comes with dating a Prince” have opted not to date him. So, I think many see any stated reluctance to be w/ PW on Kate’s part to be disingenuine, which we both know couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Like it or not, people think Kate has an agenda, or why else would she put up with living a half-life based around being at his beck-and-call? Unfortunately, because he is a Prince and he will be fiflthy rich someday, people have a hard time believing Kate is only in this for love. I am certain she is only in this for love, and none of the material stuff matters, just as it has not mattered to Camilla, who was relatively poor before marrying Charles.
Unless PW marries someone like Holly Branson or another heiress, it will be nearly impossible to refute the golddigging charge with almost any woman he is with and who choose to date him.
November 20th, 2008 09:39
alsgal, that’s exactly the problem. Why do people always expect a fairytale when it comes to royal relationships? I’d rather have couple with a “real” relationship than some press invented fairy tale a la Charles and Diana. Why does a relationship need a “spin” in the first place? It should be enough that they decided to marry each other – period!
However if they absolutely need one: What about the “they stuck-trough-good-and-bad-times-together” angle because one thing’s for sure no royal bride had ever to put up with as much media b/s as Kate and no Prince has ever been condemned as much for being in a stable relationship for 5 years. Regardless of how often the papers wrote about a break-up, Will and Kate still ended up together (probably because 90% of those stories are pure press fabrications anyways) and let’s face it no matter how much the papers belittled their relationship William and Kate haven’t given in to the pressure either way. They continued their relationship as they saw fit. If that doesn’t speak of strong character, I don’t know what does.
I wonder whether people rather wish William was women hopping like his father in his 20th…
November 20th, 2008 09:46
I forgot to add that there’s a certain paradox with the whole fairytale concept. Most people want a “commoner” to marry into the RF because that’s like a lifelong dream – from rags to richess but if someone from lesser financial background comes along the person is accused of golddigging and social climbing – ridiculous!
November 20th, 2008 09:46
Me, just saw your post — if the aggressive rebranding of Camilla (though she was a homewrecker, unlike Kate) has not really been successful given her “do you want her as Queen?” 17% popularity rating — I’m not so sure it’s that easy to undo a negative image that quickly.
If Kate, unlike Camilla, managaes to do a lot of engagements, and goes to charity events where fellow socialties and other trustafarians aren’t drinking and having a good time, then I think it would help Kate’s image immensely.
It will take some dogged perserverance, as even something as decent as being associated with Starlight is still being viewed as a defensive CYA type of activity, because PP didn’t have an association like this until this year finally.
November 20th, 2008 09:50
BRAVO Trixie !!!
November 20th, 2008 09:53
I wonder whether people rather wish William was women hopping like his father in his 20th…
LMAO, yes yes here here I’ve read that through posters different wording but yes mam.
November 20th, 2008 09:53
Can someone post a link to the article please? I can’t find it.
November 20th, 2008 09:55
Trixie — excellent point — it is ridiculous and who doesn’t love the rags-to-riches aspect. But I think what is lacking here is the “found” element, and decisiveness on the Charming Prince’s part. In fairytales, we don’t hear stories of it dragging along for an eternity, of Cindy Rella putting her life on hold while P.Charming makes up his mind and asks Dad and Grandpa for advice on whether or not to dump her.
Also, many think Kate has been calculating and that William did not plucked her from obscurity, but that she manouvered socially to get into his circle, and that once in his circle, she never let go.
I guess if we’d heard that she was willing to take a career that would keep her away from him (instead of the other way around) and that she’d dumped him on occasion, that things might be different and people would find the through thick-and-thin aspect more palatable?
November 20th, 2008 10:07
alsgal, that was exactly my point. Will and Kate’s relationship isn’t a fairytale, it’s very real. It follows the pattern many 20-something relationships do with ups and downs. If someone expects a fairytale they’d inevitably be dissapointed because fairytales don’t exist.That’s why it’s so ridiculous to expect royals to live a fairytale life and then to be all shocked when the fairytale is exposed as a sham. It’s as if people WANT to be lied to.
Also it can’t be helped if people believe everything they read… If they want to think William doesn’t love Kate or she’s a social climber because they act in a manner many couples their age do including all of HM’s other grandchildren then so be it. Peter took more than 4 years to marry Autumn after he “found” her, Harry still hasn’t decided after he “found” Chelsy more than 4 years ago neither has Zara who’s been with Mike just as long…
November 20th, 2008 10:20
My dear friend Alsgal has been contaminated with those theories LOL. (No offense)
Trixie very down to earth logical observation.
November 20th, 2008 10:24
Don’t forget the real life romance of Ed and Sophie. Maybe twenty million watched their wedding, and maybe two dozen come out to see them at public engagements. I remember once when Edward had a crowd of 1 meet him during a visit to some city.
People like a respite from reality which is why things like Harry Potter and fairytales and Santa Claus are all hugely popular, even if we in the know are well aware they don’t actually exist.
If PW and PH act too much like regular lads, and lose their exceptionality, people will ask why should they get special treatment in the first place. The Palace PR flunkeys know this, which is why we don’t see them falling out of bars these days, and why the charity aspect of their motorcycle trip was emphasised.
Too much gloss off the fairytale, and too much emphasis on reality and “being normal” and people will ask what’s the point of the whole thing.
Brick by brick, this thing is slowly being diminshed and dismantled by the governemnt and an increasingly irreverent media — and unless the younger generation is well thought of, the wheels will come off.
Look how badly Charles’ great professional achievements have been diminshed by his personal life. Edward VII did the same things but was loved by his people.
Times have changed, and the BRF understands that.
November 20th, 2008 10:28
Well if the press and public would just keep their nosy noses out of the private lives of the royals or stop making up stories and spreading lies for a start, they’d have nothing to be disappointed about as long as the RF does it’s duties.
November 20th, 2008 10:33
Perhaps I’m being cynical but I don’t see Kate marrying William a Rag to Riches fairy tale at all. Kate’s parents are millionaires; she’s had an easy life handed to her on a silver plate.
It is sad Kate is being punished for her poor choices she’s made regarding her professional life. I believe we should give her a second chance, and use it as a warning to all future girlfriends. The Monarchy no longer have a strong foothold in society, public image means everything if they want to last another decade.
November 20th, 2008 10:36
“The Monarchy’s mystery is it’s life. We must not let daylight in upon magic.” Walter Bagehot, 1867.
Too bad Philip didn’t realise the Pandora’s box he opened back in the 60s when he allowed the cameras in to film the Family.
It’s a bit late to bolt the doors now that the horse has left the stable.;)
November 20th, 2008 10:41
I agree alsgal
The doors will probably never be bolted shut again.
November 20th, 2008 10:55
I think the rebranding of KM will be alot smoother than that of Camilla. KM is not an adultress and no matter what PR teams do with Charles and Camilla, Diana looms large over their union. So there will always be three in their marriage as Diana famously said. I truly believe that C&C marriage would not have happend if Diana still lived. JMO. Kate is not perfect who knows what the Midds motives where when she was sent to SA, but regardless KM has managed to stay in his life and that can’t be done w/golddigging alone. KM can change her image by her deeds and the golddigging will be forgotten. I think IF she were to marry PW she would work hard to prove to the public that she is ready to do the job. There is no reason why she should not, she is a young healthy woman. But we shall see what happens. No ring on her finger yet!
November 20th, 2008 11:51
Gracie
I agree. If they can make Camilla over who in my opinion was hated by most people then Kate’s should really be a lot easier. She doesn’t have FB pictures of her drunk or in questionable poses like Chelsy has had. She isn’t an adultress & apart from falling over at a charity event and taking holidays which some feel are excessive so far that is the most they have had on her.
All that it really needs is for her to be a few high profile (non alcoholic as some have mentioned) events and the press will start spinning all hail kate again.
I don’t think she is a bad person (I don’t think Chelsy is either just for the record Cammy well….) I think she has made choices that some aren’t happy with (me I think are fine) and the question I ask all the time is if Wills was to hook up with a socialite tomorrow what job would this socialite do? Probably nothing? So many of them do nothing but IMO are forgiven for it because they are born into it? I don’t know maybe I’m wrong I’m not really as clued in as many on the socialite sceen but I doubt they work much?
November 20th, 2008 11:54
Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, “self-promoting and somewhat embarrasing publicity attempts” are also. The media is successful in making KM and “her ilk” look like “lazy golddigger(s)” only because people are willing to believe it, and spread the poison.
November 20th, 2008 13:14
If we aren’t supposed to believe any of the “poison” that is spread then I guess we can then assume that Camilla is actually very hardworking and we’ve all been misled by the appearance of her not doing much of anything, save for being at Charles’ disposal. What a relief! And here all this time I thought she was a lazy goldigger using on-demand sex and flattery to keep her Prince .
Or that the Queen is actually the lazy one but we’ve been misled about that as well, and that the photos and accounts of her out and about are just part of the hateful gossip. Rumours about Princess Anne being a workaholic must also be just that — rumours.
Of course, the media makes up and exaggerates many things, but when Kate’s own boss for the one job she had for one year out of the last four years (2005,2006,2007,2008) stated on the record in the Evening Standard that it was a part-time 3 day a week position that required much flex time, do you think any logical person would believe that it was anything but a job for show? Why shouldn’t we believe Kate’s ex-boss when she says Kate only worked 3 days a week? Belle Robinson didn’t seem malicious or appear to have a bone to pick with Kate, particularly as the woman loaned Kate her villa in Mustique for a vacation.
As I’ve said before, Kate might very well be working a 40+ hour per week at Party Pieces, but many will be skeptical that she is suddenly able to put in those hours now if she wasn’t previously — especially if she is still dating her same “high profile man” which is why, it was previously claimed, she could not work or hold a full-time job before. It cannot be verified, so we will just have to take her Mum’s word for it.
Because lots of famous people who are followed by the press have been able to hold down “normal” jobs — Jacqueline Onassis, JFK, Jr., Caroline Kennedy, Chelsea Clinton, Beau Biden, etc. AND were able to date/marry their future spouses whilst doing so, I think many people are skeptical when someone makes excuses as to why they can’t work.
November 20th, 2008 13:32
Well I think we all get the idea by now that dating William is no walk in the park for any woman. It’s not all that normal. Many would not put up with it but this girl has. She’s cool, calm and collective when it comes to this. I think after all we have seen this year with them, things has become more serious and this recent disappearence is speaking loud words. I firmly don’t believe this relationship will drag on for more years but something will happen. When? your guess is just as good as mine but something is coming up. Royal relationships in reality is no fairytale. I have a feeling that something is going on behind the scenes. Something good is going on. So far we have only seen Pippa and James out but no Kate. This is telling us something.
November 20th, 2008 13:39
Alsgal, that reminded me of Diana working 3 days as a nanny for a few months.
November 20th, 2008 13:42
Me, the only difference is that Diana is praised to the high heavens for her “job” whereas Kate is being attacked for being lazy and not a career woman. How DARE she!
November 20th, 2008 13:43
I guess I am just astonished at the mean-spiritedness directed toward people about whom you know absolutely nothing.
November 20th, 2008 13:46
Well if Kate marries William, maybe after 6 years, with babies and patron, president or whatever of a bunch of charities she might be praised to the high heavens too.
November 20th, 2008 13:59
Kate shouldn’t get automatic appraisal because she’s rearing Will’s children or head of the odd charity. She has to earn respect these days with hard graft. The British won’t fall madly in love with Kate because of her radiant smile IMO The days of Diana style worship is long gone, Kate will have to work for her approval.
November 20th, 2008 14:16
Hey Alsgal
Could I ask at what age Caroline Onassis and Jacqueline Kennedy met their husbands? I just remember having a similar discussion somewhere else about some of the other royal working princesses and I remember one thing that routinely came up was that they had met their future spouses after they had left university and after they had had at least a year or two under their belt i.e. like SRJ they already had started along the career path when they met their husbands. They weren’t fresh out of college?
November 20th, 2008 14:18
It’s true Kate has a great deal of work ahead of her, if they take this to another level. So does William. I think what everyone wants to see is a young couple working towards restoring hope for the future Monarchy. The Queen is doing such a great job with the Monarchy now but people are worried about what’s going to happen after she passes on.
November 20th, 2008 14:58
So for Jacqueline onassis graduated from college in 1951 and met JFK in 1952. She was working for the washington times herald and married JFK in 1953. So again was already out of college and working when she met him.
Caroline Kennedy was already interning at the new yorks daily news when she met her husband. Princess Marie of Denmark had again graduated college and had been working for a number of years before she met her prince.
My point is that most of these women were older then kate and had already started down a career path before they got involved with their princes or presidential candidates. It’s not the same set of circumstances.
& again I don’t see anything wrong with Kate not working. She is not claming anything off of the state. The problem is everyone else has a problem with her not working… But that is just my opinion
November 20th, 2008 15:17
I just think all these people who critisize KM are jealous. She works, she vacations,she shops – she does normal things – she just happens to be dating PW. I think she is a lovely respectful person. If I could get by with working 3 days a week or working for my parents I would!
November 20th, 2008 15:22
Hey Everybody…
So, I pretty much have zero faith in this story I just read…but according to a US Gossip site, Prince William is going to be flying to Australia to hang out with Paris Hilton…and that Paris just split with her boyfriend, Benji Madden, because of her “growing” relationship with PW…
Like I said, I have pretty much don’t believe a word of this, but I found it amusing so I thought I would share it with the rest of you
November 20th, 2008 15:23
Me, Diana was 18 when she had a three day a week job. By 26 (Kate’s age now) she had two children and a few hundred charitable engagements per year.
Britt-lala, I agree — charm and a radiant smile only go so far these days. Even after Diana’s wedding, she was not as popular for a time because many thought her an airheaded clothes horse. It took hard work, and slogging away, before she was thought of as being more than just a pretty princess.
JJ, not sure the exact ages but Jackie Bouvier was maybe 23 or 24, had graduated from Vassar and was working as a photographer when she met JFK. Even later as Jackie Onassis “the world’s most photographed” celebrity, and the widowed wife of a billionaire, she went to work at Doubleday publishers and continued to be very active in NYC with her charitable endeavors until her death.
JFK, Jr. worked in the D.A.s office in NYC as an attorney, so if anyone exploited his name, it was the people of the state of New York.
Caroline KS I can’t remember but she also managed to work and still volunteers across the city, even at events that don’t make the papers or earn her good publicity.
The current crop of Crown Princesses have certainly raised the bar for everyone. Besides being attractive and intelligent, many of them also had distinguished careers prior to marrying. The ones who aren’t thought to be working hard enough in their roles are typically not as popular as the ones who do work hard. All have small children, and all are actively engaged in charities.
Being exceptional is somewhat expected these days, by the press and public who are constantly questioning, just why exactly should I respect or defer to this person if they are behaving no differently than I do?
At this point, just being a pretty rented womb is not enough, nor is being “supportive of one’s Prince” Wallis or Camilla-style very pleasing to the great majority of the British public, at least not going by the polls.
People everywhere admire someone who works hard and achieves something on their own — that’s not mean spirited, it’s just human nature.
November 20th, 2008 15:39
Kd – I’m not jealous of Kate. I’m actually one of her few supporters on the Internet Forum and Royal Truth. Just because I’m open to seeing the negative side of Kate doesn’t mean I’m a ‘hater’. Kate has flaws and we recognise them; she’s only human.
November 20th, 2008 15:40
JJ, just saw your post.
Lazy and extravagant are out for royal family members, while hardworking, frugal and charitable are in.
I guess it goes back to the theory that a work ethic is an inherent part of one’s character, and some are afraid that there should not be a repeat of Camilla, who has not shown much get-up-and-go as an adult. It apparently has not been enough for her just to please Charles and be a pleasant person. Yes, she’s on the taxpayer dime now (last I read, despite their fancy accountant speak, Charles’ Duchy of Cornwall pays less tax than the average Joe, so that means somebody else has to pick up their share of the burden, which in this case the taxpayer who is paying the full rate) and no, she has not stepped up to the plate and delivered.
Some would ask, if she didn’t feel the need to be hardworking before she sealed the deal, why should she later on.
The Queen isn’t beloved because she’s pleasant but prefers to stay home and rest and cannot handle a humid climate.
November 20th, 2008 15:53
Please don’t start the jealous nonsense again.
Balding aside, IMO William is not that attractive, appears to lack self-confidence, seems indecisive, and after reading this weeks Chinook report, now appears somewhat dishonest. There are plenty of handsome rich boys with less baggage if one is after looks or money. But he is the future of the Monarchy, and as his primary duties are to reproduce and keep his mouth shut, he warrants discussion, and his apparent choice of bride warrants discussion.
Charles with his Presidential-style-as-King ambitions along with his hardly beloved second wife will leave the Monarchy on shaky ground for certain. Scotland will surely leave next, and after the Queen dies, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Australia go too. William will have much to overcome if he is to keep the family business afloat.
November 20th, 2008 15:55
That is true Alsgal, I think that is why William & Kate seem to getting down to business and taking things more seriously. Even Harry now wants to go away and become a pilot. Chelsy is still in school but I think she will get busy once she’s done. I think Kate is doing lots of things behind the scenes.
November 20th, 2008 15:57
Britt-lala – I was not referring to you, referring to the tabloids. Did not mean to offend.
KM did say she needed a flexible schedule at Jigsaw because of PW (her high profile bf). So I do feel bad that she is bashed in the papers for only working 3 days a week. Then when they broke up, dont’ you think she needed time to figure out her life and what to do? She really is in a difficult situation – she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.
As for Jackie O… she only worked a few days a week when she got out of college taking photos of people on the street after she asked them some silly question. And when she worked at Double Day she only worked a few days there too – very flexible schedule.
November 20th, 2008 16:05
Paris Hilton is the last thing PW needs to associate himself with if he is trying to fix his PR! He might have to get engaged to KM just to shut Paris up.
November 20th, 2008 16:07
Although I think Charles will make a great King, Charles has yet to visit Canada since his wedding and the young royals don’t do much traveling to other Commonwealth countries. The Queen is the person that is keeping all of them together.
November 20th, 2008 16:16
Gracie, I think it’s horrible that the tabs are continuing to milk that Paris & William story. First they were saying she like Harry more, now they are setting her up with William. This happened because he was pictured next to her. The press just need to get it together and stop writting about that or Paris could say that is all rubbish but I guess it’s best to not shine a light on that.
Kd, I agree that’s why I think Kate needs to be seen doing great charity work that interest her. But there’s no telling what she’s doing other than working at PP.
November 20th, 2008 16:25
alsgal, you make very good points. I disagree about Diana though. She never got a college education hardly made it through highschool if at all – being a nanny was as far as she would get “career” wise. She was waiting to marry a rich titled husband – as she did. And yet she made a splendid crown princess.
I am sure many people think like you though I personally never understood the obsession with every woman having a career prior to marriage to “prove herself” worthy of a Prince – only to drop it the second she gets married. Either you are truely intersted in a particular career path – but then why “force” the woman to give it up to cut ribbons and shake hands 24/7 or you are not that interested in the career but why then start one of you don’t have to just to keep up a pretence?
I do agree that whoever marries into the RF will have to do his/her job thoroughly and take on many engagements – but I don’t see why only a “career woman” should be up to that. Despite of not having a career Kate never came across to me like someone who would not do her duties or shy away from them. But that is of course just a personal impression hard to prove before she is in the situation. However the great “career woman” Letizia of Spain is regularly criticised by her countrymen and women of being lazy and not carrying out enough engagements – so having a career prior to a wedding is no guarantee for a hard working crown princess either.
November 20th, 2008 16:43
I think if KM went to go teach in an inner city school and was (quietly, and without yellow hot pants) working with an Aids/youth at risk/ Eliminate Leishmaniasis Forever charity she probably wouldn’t be damned at all.
Take Jenna Bush, who went from being portrayed as a drunken party girl and yet is now a very respected person and who has quietly revamped her image by doing the same thing.
Kd, don’t forget Jackie Bouvier worked back in the 1950s before that little ditty I like to call Women’s Liberation, when many “nice gels of a certain standing” weren’t expected to work at all.
Later on as a billionaire’s widow, she still kept herself busy with something other than vactioning, parties, shopping and working out and getting her hair done. Even with that, many still dismissed her as a fluffy, airheaded social climbing goldigger, so I guess that’s just what happens when when women trade their good looks/charm for money/status from a well-off man.
Also, maybe we should find some 26 year-old girls to compare Kate to first.
Holly Branson? Ivanka Trump? Princess Madeline? Lady Melissa Percy, who repairs motorcyles for a living, albeit tasteful, antique ones? Those are just some girls who also don’t have to work and aren’t living off the taxpayer, either.
All the 26/27 year olds I know either work full time, are home raising small children (and many also working half time) or are in graduate school. I doubt Kate is rich enough to remain a a trust fund baby indefinitely, as I tend to doubt Pippa clears tables just for the fun of it.
November 20th, 2008 16:44
Trixie, great post, totally agree. I would that think that a woman who is totally commited to her career would have a hard to adjusting to the RF. Not the cermonial, cutting ribbons, charity work, but the fact that she would no longer be an independant woman. She would have limited lifestyle w/protocol to follow even when at home. I think most woman choose a career because they want to be their own person and take care of themselves w/o having to depend on a man. That would not be available to them in the RF. It is almost better to be a dismissive personality when going into that family. If everyone is so concerned about KM job, then where was this concern for Camilla resume? She has not had a job, from what I have read, ever other than raising her children but she probably had nannies. They say this is the first time she has ever had to do work at her age. No wonder she does not take on so much stuff. No excuse, that’s what happens when you marry a Prince. I don’t think KM will have any problems doing her job if ever given the chance.
November 20th, 2008 16:51
alsgal, just like Holly Kate works for her parents business. She is not a “trust fund baby” and even if she were that doesn’t make her a bad person and doesn’t answer my question where the obsession with career women comes from.
Princess Madeleine does the occasinal royal engagement (like Will and Harry) and is still in univeristy studying psychology if she’s not out partying or vacationing with her b/f. She doesn’t hold a regular job and probably never will.
November 20th, 2008 16:57
Alsgal, I think Jenna changed her image when she got married. What she does after her father’s presidency is over and ratings are not an issue will show how much she has changed. I think Lauren Bush, her cousin is a better example of what KM could be doing. Jackie O, I have mixed feelings about. She did take photos for a paper then she met JFK. Did she do charity work while in office? I think she married Onassis for weatlh and the protection he could afford her and her children. Although at the end of her life she did work as a partime editor, I still didn’t have alot of respect for her having a longterm relationship w/a married man. Who I think is still married. I do think that the choices that KM has made will go against her being chosen for PW. If the public notice these things, I am sure the Queen or her staff does too. I still believe that they will find a girl that they deem fit enough to be his bride. Snobby as it is, I think it is true.
November 20th, 2008 17:04
I hope it isn’t gracie. God beware someone meddles with William’s love life like they did with his father’s. Neither Charles nor Camilla would have such battered reputations had they been “allowed” to marry back in the 70th and had his dear family not tried to find the “perfect” bride for Charles. If William loves Kate and wants to marry her public image shouldn’t matter – that’s so cynical that a few unfortunate pictures and gossip rags should dictate such a personal and private decision like who you marry. I would wish the BRF was beyond that.
The Queen married an undiplomatic womanizer (though he is very hard working), Charles married his work-shy mistress, Prince Hakoon married a mother of an illegitimate child who had a past a drug addict, Prince Felipe married a divorced woman of whom naked pictures circulated online but William should be forbidden to marry Kate just because she’s not a career woman?
November 20th, 2008 17:05
Hmmm, I think we’re all meddling into William’s love life.
November 20th, 2008 17:10
I am not! I am just curious as hell…
November 20th, 2008 17:14
Great points as usual Trixie. True, for every before and after Camilla style (lazy before/lazy after, not much changed) we have a hard working Letizia or Wasabi of Japan who had a lot of promise but have for whatever reason, disappointed in the role.
The “no point in having a career just to give it up” implies that Kate fully expects to marry William, otherwise she’d have made sure she had something to fall back on. So, why wait and watch Kate’s rep be destroyed in the process? A grand royal wedding takes 5 months to plan (C&D) and she can certainly be a military wife — no one would criticize her for that.
So what Kate’s implying by claiming she wants to wait to have babies and that there’s no point pursuing a real career is that she’s not up for Royal duites and wants to have fun. So, from 22 to maybe 30, 32 Kate will, going by this theory, be having lots of fun and will thoroughly avoid responsibility.
Seriously, am I the only one who thinks that sounds a wee bit immature and adolescent for a future Queen? Who would choose to be so unproductive in their prime? Most hugely advantaged people I have known are consumed with guilt and at the very least try to help those less fortunate. They would be embarrased to be thought of as lazy or unproductive to society.
I agree, everyone doesn’t need to have a career before marriage, but since the implication is that Kate and her sister only want rich men (and their mother also married up) as husbands that they are looking to marry their way into a life they could ill provide on their own. That is why the golddigging/wisteria sisters charge doesn’t seem to go away, and it can’t all be blamed on evil Grey Men who want their granddaughters to marry PW.
November 20th, 2008 17:26
Where do you take it from that Kate only wants to have fun and avoids responsibility? Certainly not from her own behaviour because she’s not living an idle “fun” life right now at all – I actually wished we knew WHAT sort of life it is. My curiosity is killing me!
One can of course be cynical about it and denie that she does much – but from what we know an idle fun life she is not leading by any standards – except one considers staying at home 24/7 to avoid unwanted press attention and sharing of office with your little brother “fun”.
But from what we hear – working at PP, building up brands for it, taking computer courses to improve etc. plus the lack of party appearances, it doesn’t sound like she’s being irresponsible or immature at all. She IS WORKING and is a “productive part of society”! One doesn’t need to parade around in front of paps on the way to work to be “productive”, you know.
Pippa is working also – even cleaning up after parties for the catering firm she works for.
Since the Middletons managed just fine providing for Kate and Pippa’s lifestyle in the past and continue to do so… with or without “rich hubby”, I disagree with the Wisteria thing but that was already debated here ad nuseum…
November 20th, 2008 17:32
Well, clearly it’s PW’s day to be on the gossip sites….there are pics of PW and, ahem, all his princely glory on the site perez hiltion….they do look like real pics, too…real or not, I’m sure BP/CH will NOT like this at all!
November 20th, 2008 17:42
*shock* Are those pictures real!?! I can’t believe they posted them -on a gay porn site no less. I can only imagine the royal outrage that is to follow. I am also appaled that paparazzi would take pics like that but then they also did take those of Prince Philip and even published them in a paper…
November 20th, 2008 17:44
Gracie, actually Jenna started teaching 3 years prior to her marriage at a charter school in DC back in late 2004 — it just took Tina Fey a while to catch up.
And you are right — that Maurice Templesman sounds like a complete bastard! We should warn Pippa about the men in the diamond business.
Trixie, unfortunately, the Monarchy has to be concerned about their popularity at this point. Edward VIII had to give up his throne for Wallis, who didn’t even help break up an existing royal marriage like Camilla did. There are still arguments as to whether their marriage is legal going on in various parts of the government.
perhaps Kate being an old fashioned non-career girl would have worked if she had been a little more old fashioned in her pursuit of her Prince (no on the shacking up and best to foget her Disco Kate days) — something about James Whitaker saying the word around the Palace was that she was too loose with her favours or some such nonsense? So, it’s more the implication that she is willing to use sex in exhange for eventual financial security and an easy life that probably makes people wary of the old fashioned gal angle.
Of course, if PW married her she could have her babies and her house and the ski vacation or whatever it is her friend claimed she said she wanted, and her career would no longer be an issue.
November 20th, 2008 17:45
OMG!!! I’m highly suspicious as it’s a gay porn website as they could have doctored the photograph… If this is genuine, Bucks Palace are going to be so happy!
November 20th, 2008 17:45
November 20th, 2008 17:47
I meant the idea that a woman in a 5 year long serious relationship is too easy with her goods … my liberal European a** finds that too funny…
November 20th, 2008 17:48
Alsgal, I think the golddigging would be said about anyone who does not come from their circle. I remember reading that Princess Mary went the bar Frederick was at saying “she was going to bag a prince.” Who knows if that is true or not? Anyone who is not equal in $tature to PW, they will call a golddigger. I think if PW found a girl on a dairy farm with not a bad word to her name they would still call her and her family golddiggers. LOL, Phyllis!
November 20th, 2008 17:55
I can’t get Perez site up. Crap, he probably had to take them down already!
November 20th, 2008 18:06
Trixie you are absolutely right .Aslgal the Middleton girls will probably marry people they associate with , that does not mean they are social climbing . All the Middletons act with such grace and class that I think it makes those aristos so mad. Kate does not need any image makeover she is doing fine the way she is . The only thing Kate has done wrong in those people eyes is to date the future king of England. How dare this commer come in there aristo group. That is the problem some people have with Kate .Not if she works or not , not if she does charity work . That does not matter to them , it only matters that she is a commoner. Kate could act like Mother Theresa and she still would be critised . And what does Kate does with all that she holds her head up with a stiff upper lip and simle. I think the more she is critised the more William draw closer to her.
November 20th, 2008 18:10
OMG!! I just saw the video of PW willy on PH and it’s real. He has on his motorcycle clothing from Enduro-the red shirt, etc. He is peeing and yes you can see his man parts. The RF is just going to die when they see this. PH web site was overloaded and several of the web pages w/the incident are down or overloaded. Wow, I don’t think the Palace can say one word about Disco anymore, not after seeing those photos!
November 20th, 2008 18:12
Darn it
I really want to open it but I am at work & there will probably be a cease and dissist order out by the time I get home! Ahhhh
November 20th, 2008 18:28
jj, yes the two sites that have it are not available, but PH has another one that is spanish that is still up. PH says he was at a polo match, but you can see Enduro written on his shirt. He was off by himself, or he thought by a barbwired fence. You can tell its real cause men get that look on their face when they relieve themselves. Wonder who took the pic? Hope it was not Shaun Davy. Maybe a villager or another rider?
November 20th, 2008 18:44
Now who would put up a picture of him doing that? That is absolutely horrible. I would just die if someone did that to me. The comments is even worse.
November 20th, 2008 18:53
It has to be someone that was on the Enduro with him. Gosh, you’d think his protection officers would atleast stand and block him to prevent these things from happening.
November 20th, 2008 19:27
I was thinking the same thing gracie, where were his p. officers at??? Right now, I bet they are probably in the unemployment line!!
November 20th, 2008 19:49
Well to get off that subject here is the video of Kate leaving the Roller Disco. That was so dangerous, no wonder we haven’t seen her in awhile. The paps that night was out of control, in my opinion.
http://pomponik.pl/widziano/kate-middleton-na-rolkach-z-ksiezniczka/wideo/kate-middleton-na-rolkach-z-ksiezniczka,2831962
November 20th, 2008 19:58
Now did Beatrice look upset in that video? No. So I guess that solves that so called spat between her and Kate.
November 20th, 2008 20:41
Rman, I’ve always doubted there was a spat between Kate and Beatrice. Both girls are known for their refinement, so a cat fight would have been out of the question. 50/50 on the jello wrestling though, cause, well ya never know.
As for Kate, yes, I agree the Whitaker comment pretty much illustrates that he was born in the Stone Age, but even back during the Swinging Seventies it was still thought that PC needed a bride with no past, even though he had quite a past himself (and present and future w/ Canoodlin’ Cammy.) Double standards, but that’s how they were and maybe still are? Who knows.
btw my security software will not allow me to access Willy and the Twins.
Are we talking pinkie or full tool box?
November 20th, 2008 20:56
It’s being reported that William is back in the caribbean on training for ten days.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article1954848.ece
November 20th, 2008 21:12
Rman, that sounds to me like a pre-training that will be followed by a fanstastic Mustique vacation with Kate.
A December proposal on the beach, with a gorgeous diamond ring hidden inside the fruit in Kate’s umbrella cocktail, or mocktail, because we all know she doesn’t drink.
Am greasing up my lawnchair as we speak.
November 20th, 2008 21:19
Alsgal
Wow I almost died of shock when I finally got onto the website. It’s still up on the gay website. It just really shows the top not the whole enchilala. Someone is going to get fired for that mishap. Rman about to read your links now
November 20th, 2008 21:37
Sorry folks there are just some things I shall pass on viewing. The words classless and tasteless don’t do this incident justice. How the world has changed….
November 20th, 2008 21:39
alsgal, I will be very surprised if there is no engagement by early next year. I think this is the reason why Kate is so invisible right now. JMO of course but we will see…
November 20th, 2008 23:10
I agree lisa something is coming, maybe early next year. It will be a surprise to us though.
November 20th, 2008 23:18
I agree lisa, I can’t believe they would put a picture like that up. Your privacy is so limited in that world. As a guy, I know that is something you don’t want the world to see. I can’t believe they would do that to William.
November 21st, 2008 03:48
i thinked if KM and PW split up,all her families should not been photographed by the paparazzi.
November 21st, 2008 04:18
There is a little snippet in the DM by Richard Kay & a chat that he had with Tara P-T about birthday present for PC. At the end of it she says
‘I decided to give the binoculars to William, although he hasn’t seen them yet because he’s in the jungle,’ reveals Tara at the launch of India Hicks’s new fragrance Island Night at the Metropolitan Hotel.
But she chides: ‘And don’t suggest he would do anything other than birdwatch with them – he has a lovely girlfriend who I’m very fond of.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087975/Ill-day-court-says-Selina.html
So Kate gets a ringing endorsement from Tara!!
November 21st, 2008 05:30
How embarrassing for William, I would be absolutely mortified if someone caught me taking a leak and posted it on the internet.
William doesn’t have much room to complain about his privacy with this picture. Yes it’s his human right to take a wee whenever he feels like it and should not expect to get photographed, but he’s the future king of England. He knows he has thousands of cameras focusing on him at all times and he went against his better judgment and whipped out his manhood.
November 21st, 2008 06:13
Rman,pat of the problem we face in our society today is that there are no boundries for acceptable behaviour. It’s a free for all and anything goes. There has to be a place in which a line is drawn and we have lost that. Very dangerous.
I am glad Tara P-T made the comment about William having a GF but can you really see William using a pair of binoculars studded with crystals? LOL
November 21st, 2008 08:04
Well I guess I am tasteless cause I viewed the photos. Once when my son was about 3yr old and we were at an open/outside shopping mall and my mother and I were sitting on a bench and my son ran over to look at the tulips. We’ll that’s what I thought, I could only see him from the back and all these people were laughing etc. So I walked up to see what was going on and he was having a little pee-pee. I asked him why he decided to do it outside instead of telling me to take him to the restroom and he said “I was watering the flowers!”
Alsgal, it was the pinkie. I can see why Kate calls him “Big Willy.”
November 21st, 2008 08:15
A bit more then the pinkie, the entire firemens helment in view. Poor William
November 21st, 2008 08:48
See, so he is his father’s son — shy and lacking in confidence. Maybe this is why he hasn’t dated or played the field all that much? I know one of my guy friends from college, who suffered from TPS (Teeny Pecker Syndrome) married a 4′11″ virgin and has stayed faithful to her ever since. It only took one time for the young man to hear “That’s it?!@!” and he was scarred for life.
So, it now makes sense that a strong-willed, aggressive woman who flatters him and who does not “show him up” (read that as outshine him) is right up his alley.
I think he has that in Kate, who can offer great assurances to help him overcome TPS (well, mentally anyway) and who has been happy to shore up his fragile ego by remaining in the background, which is really what being a woman is all about.
November 21st, 2008 08:59
They gave KM such crap for her Disco, which I do think it was ill advised and now Prince Willy get caught showind his wiener snitzel and no press mention it. They had no problem showing KM “panty shot” in the press. I am not saying I want them to show his wiener snitzel, but I think they should play fair.
November 21st, 2008 09:01
I agree, Gracie — schnitzel for everybody!
Couldn’t help noticing a story on Google — “Reasons It Might Be Hard to find a Girlfriend” — was that pun intentional?
November 21st, 2008 10:01
where is the link of pw doing that?
November 21st, 2008 13:12
Alsgal, because of my overwhelming curiosity, (I know, I know, it killed the cat!
) I did see the photos and the video in question of William, and I can honestly say that Wills has absolutely nothing to be shy about or ashamed of.
To put it delicately (if that’s even possible) William is a person who is in proper proportion to his height. Now I understand one of the reasons Kate has stuck by her boyfriend!
I sincerely hope my teasing comments didn’t offend anyone.
November 21st, 2008 14:16
mapleleaf Where did you see the photos?? Please tell me….:)
November 21st, 2008 14:20
Guys all you have to do is google it and go to the site. This must really make William blush and I think it’s kind of embarrassing to Kate as well. I guess he’s thanking God he’s away and not in London.
November 22nd, 2008 18:14
titi, the links to where I saw the photos are on the Perez site. I posted a link to the Perez site in another comment here on BRW somewhere, but you can just go to the perez hilton site and search for Prince William.
It’s been a couple of days now, so I don’t know if they’re still there, but you can check. To be honest, I hope for Wills’ sake that this starts to be less of a story.
I imagine Wills is probably upset about the whole thing, but I’d bet it helps him to have a brand new appreciation of what Kate went through when she fell at the roller disco charity party and the whole world commented on it.
A lot of people speculated that they could see things that weren’t actually visible, and condemned Kate for something that was an accident.
With this incident, Wills has been treated just as badly, or even worse than Kate. The paps and the cameras can be really unfair.