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Kate Middleton furious at Paris Hilton – All News Web
Rumours are leaking out of Buckingham Palace that Kate Middleton is both threatened by and furious at Paris Hilton for her interest in and attempt to get her hands on Prince William. ‘Kate has spent the last few days rather tearfully moping around’ a source close to the Royals divulged…
Mike Tindall shows girlfriend Zara Phillips his new oiled torso – Daily Mail
If nothing else, it should make for some interesting conversation over dinner the next time Zara Phillips takes her boyfriend to see her royal grandmother. England and Gloucester rugby star Mike Tindall has stripped to his boxer shorts, displaying an oiled and suspiciously smooth – perhaps even shaved – torso, for a charity calendar…
Princess Diana’s honeymoon letter – Monsters & Critics
A letter written by Britain’s late Princess Diana on her honeymoon is set to be auctioned. In the note – which is expected to fetch up to £3,500 when it is sold at auctioneers Reeman Dansie in Colchester, Essex – the princess admits feeling “terribly lonely” in the days before her wedding…
Rare flare-wearing Queen picture on sale – The Sun
A photo of the Queen in FLARES is up for auction. Her Maj smiles on a beach during what is thought to have been a 1970s foreign tour. The never-before-seen picture is being sold by a private collector…
November 25th, 2008 09:28
I just have to say the article about KM being upset by Paris Hilton is the biggest joke ever!!
November 25th, 2008 09:43
catherine middleton angry with Paris Hilton?/? that’s a fantastic gossip this time!!! ha..ha..i’m happy Catherine!! but the fact is you must not to be jealous with Paris Hilton cause Wills never ever want to have relationship with celebrity hollywood of course and Wills family doesn’t respect with Paris Hilton, she’s world very different with Royal world. ussually catherine never angry or envy if Wills sometimes ever have a gossip with the other lady of course, but why now Catherine so jealous this time, so confuse!
November 25th, 2008 13:04
mariskaagusta, that is made up tabloid gossip. They are milking that story to death. I wish they would stop that.
November 25th, 2008 14:06
Really it’s absurd. I’m sure KM is many things, but I highly doubt she’s a moper. She would have to be made of stronger stuff to survive as long as she has.
November 25th, 2008 17:45
They still cannot let go of this story…
November 25th, 2008 18:09
Well it just tells you that it’s a very slow news week.
November 25th, 2008 21:08
She better get on that bycle soon, her abscence is driving the press crazier.
November 25th, 2008 21:19
ha ha..Kate threatened by Paris Hilton. Come on now, Kate could squash that chic like a bug,lol
bring it on Paris!
November 26th, 2008 04:33
you know the nature of Paris Hilton cheating beau , i thinked KM should be worrying and jealous about PW although paris hilton is doing necessary things.
November 26th, 2008 09:28
If PW told Paris she was pretty at a nightclub, then KM would have something to worry about in terms of PW not being a faithful kind of guy because faithful, committed men in LTR’s do not tell other single attractive girls they are pretty or good looking. They just don’t.
Why would they have reason say that if they are happy with what’s at home? Sure they might make small talk about the weather, or Attractive Girl’s career, but never, ever would they tell her they think she’s good looking because that’s practically an invitation to go to bed.
However, we don’t even know if it’s true PW even said that to Paris.
So the options are:
1) Paris either just wants some publicity and is making this up or the press put words into her mouth and it’s not true
2)PW was a bit sloshed and did something really dumb and disrespectful to Kate if he was hanging out in a nightclub without KM and was telling pretty girls he thought they were pretty
in which case I hope KM would toss this immature brat to the curb.
3)They broke up and were ONFF when he went to the going away party and once again, PW tested the waters and once again, Kate took him back.
November 26th, 2008 10:02
Paris said that British tabloids invent QUOTES she never has said.
So there goes all the milking stories with William and decided to relate now to Kate. Smart editors.
November 26th, 2008 10:14
Paris herself said there was nothing between her and Will and that the press has made up all sorts of quotes of her. Only the Daily Star (or was it the Mirror?) quoted some fellow clubbers who supposedly saw them “flirting” and I wonder how in a noisy nightclub anyone would be able to overhear a conversation between William and Paris – if it ever took place in the first place since the DM said he ignored her completely.
also even IF William said that what if it was a repsonse to a question like “What do I look like?” What would the correct answer be “Like a used desperate wh***?” You look pretty soundsrather polite and harmless to me – pretty much what you say if you don’t have anything nice to add – like saying someone is “nice”.
November 26th, 2008 10:27
Which is probably why W&H are better off avoiding the celebrity circus altogether, and which may be why most of their friends aren’t so well-known. There are already too many lies and fake stories about them as it is.
Which brings me to my favorite celebrity — let me just say, after seing some more pics of my other Mr. Handsome (besides Al) that Mr. James Middleton is certainly famous in my house!:)Stunning is one word that shouldn’t only be used for his Big Sis. The phrase, “Handsome is as handsome does” comes to mind and it perplexes me why some people just go on and on and on about Prince Harry when James is equally handsome, if not more so.
Of course, that’s JMO, and as the saying goes, booty is in the eye of the beholder, and my James has got the booty!
November 26th, 2008 11:05
I think all possible girls avoid W&H altogether, too much baggage.
November 26th, 2008 12:34
I just don’t like the tabloid making up things because it has a way of causing some confusion and taking things alittle too far.
November 26th, 2008 12:42
William & Kate has been left off of their university ulumni list. I wonder why peple treat this couple like they are some aliens from another planet?
http://tinyurl.com/5f7cvl
November 26th, 2008 12:51
By the way, shouldn’t PW be back soon? I thought that they said that his trip with the SBS was for 10 days??
November 26th, 2008 12:58
Good point, Me.
What kind of person would want to marry them?
They are great guys, but there are a lot of great guys out there, so who would be willing to put up with all the baggage?
someone in search of money
(there are richer men)
someone in search of fame
(but that would take an exhibitionist)
someone in search of power
(there are far more powerful people, plus a royal wifey doesn’t have much)
someone devoted to public service
(but this sort of person would probably have had a long record of charitable interests prior to marriage)
someone in search of security
(a guy from Inland Revenue or a rich man from an old family could also provide that)
on the other hand, being a Royal wife is and always will be considered to be at the top of the food chain, so it is probably the total package that appeals to a certain kind of girl.
Or we can also believe that it’s only for love that these girls go after these men. But wouldn’t it be easier to love a postman, or a law student perhaps?
November 26th, 2008 13:03
It surprised me that William was left off the alumni list. I suppose they are waiting until he is older and has more accomplishments. Even though I adore KM and support her,she has not really done anything to warrant being on that list. If she marries William,then we will see her on the list for sure. None the less,I doubt either William or Kate are losing any sleep over being left out.
November 26th, 2008 13:07
Rman, my first thought was that they were left off the alumni list because they asked to be left off — it’s just more proof of their coupledom that they were both left off IMO.
H, my prediction is that William chose his super secret training (so super secret that it was leaked to Duncan Larcombe at the Sun
) in the Caribbean in this month (during the high season) so that he could jaunt off afterwards to Mustique afterwards to propose to Kate without the world knowing.
Sex on the Beach ain’t outta reach, if you get my drift.
And pssst … get your nails done, Katie, and buy some sunglasses because that diamond will be HUGE — especially if Pippa’s diamond merchant heir Simon gave them a nice discount!
November 26th, 2008 13:12
I was thinking the samething Alsgal, which is probably why they was left off. Yeah I think William should be back soon, and hopefully we would just get a little sighting from them.
November 26th, 2008 13:17
alsgal,you are something else! LOL:) I am still of the belief that the absence of Kate is due to a revamping of her security and visibility ahead of the announcement. Now if jan comes and goes without an announcement and Wills starts his training,I think we will have quite a wait ahead of us.
November 26th, 2008 13:52
did Sara show te pictures from the party?
November 26th, 2008 14:59
It seems St. Andrews have left Prince William and Kate, off of list of famous Alumni.
Not that I feel Kate should be included at all. If William dumps her, there is not much else she is famous for.
TELEGRAPH:
“Prince William and his girlfriend, Kate Middleton, have been left off the alumni list at St Andrews University’s new £2million museum.”
But a spokeswoman said there are no plans to add the Prince’s name to the alumni list.
She said: “They are not part of the museum nor are there any plans at present to include them.”
The Prince met Ms Middleton at St Andrews in 2001 and the couple officially became an item in 2003. They separated last year but were later reconciled
-The Telegraph
November 26th, 2008 15:37
Yes Lisa
We might be in for a long wait. I’m hoping that the starlight foundation will bring about the re-emergence of Kate and a boxing day announcement. Other wise that girl is going to disappear for the next year and a half.
London is cold……
November 26th, 2008 16:13
That alsgal is something, lol.
November 26th, 2008 16:13
jj,do you really think they would announce on boxing day? I am thinking they may do it sooner. The announcement would help the economy,IMO. Not only in 09 with the influx of people arriving for the wedding but the sales of plates and other royal trinkets. I think the prospect of a royal wedding would give a rise to the spirits of some of the people. I don’t know. Something tells me that if there is going to be an announcement,it will be before Christmas.
November 26th, 2008 16:20
If we don’t see a Boxing Day announcement Prince William of Wales is going to see alsgal’s Boxing Glove Announcement because I just might need to head over on my broom and knock some sense into Kate’s young fella.
I am wondering though, how a wedding in 18 months makes any more sense then one next summer? If once PW finishes his training, he is then supposed to be making at least a 36 month commitment to SAR, how would that be any easier for Kate to wait until the training is finished to get married?
If he is going to be a fulltime SAR pilot after the training, there won’t be much of a difference for Kate pre-training or post-training domestically speaking.
Lots of time alone on a base as a military wife.
JJ, do you mean temperature wise or socially speaking for Kate and Pippa if there’s no announcement?
November 26th, 2008 16:27
alsgal,you made an important point. If there is to be a wedding,there is no need to wait out the 18 months. If anything,Kate would be better off taking the time during William’s training to ease into her royal duties. Having her around to pull some of the load would take away some of the sting of William being tied up for sometime to come and also make things easier for William’s grandparents,who are getting up there in years as they say. I am not sure what their plans are but I have a hunch Ms Middleton is doing something other then staying holed up in her parents compound packing up paper plates and party favors. JMO
November 26th, 2008 16:34
Hi Alsgal
Once again you have me rolling with laughter. I would like to give big willy a good boxing as well.
I am in London till Sunday visiting my family. I live in Southern California so this weather change is a bit of a shock to the system.
You are right I can’t think of any reason to wait the 18 months but I do remember just before the SAR announcement there were rumblings from aides or “sources” that a wedding wouldn’t be at least for another 18 months. Why who knows. I’m sure I’ve heard somewhere (maybe on RA) that they have to be introduced to the present prime minister & other protocol has to be followed?? Do they have time to get that out of the way before xmas?
November 26th, 2008 16:39
Well,I just read something interesting over at the IF. Apparently,according to Buckingham Palace site,Sophie,the countess of Wessex has had quite a few of her patronages removed from her list. Many of which having to do with children’s charities.It is possible that it is a mistake but it may also be possible that these charities are being assigned to someone else. Maybe someone who has no patronages at the present time.
November 26th, 2008 16:40
Lisa
Well we only have 5 weeks left in the year. I just remember hearing on other websites that boxing day might be appropriate because they will be at Highgrove or is it Sandringham? Which means it would be easier to control the press than it would be in London so given Williams dislike of the paps may suit him better?
November 26th, 2008 16:46
jj,the family spend Christmas at Sandringham. You are correct,BTW,the PM has to approve of the engagement and would be informed of it is a private meeting with QE2.
November 26th, 2008 16:50
I agree with you Lisa about a possible engagement. I think that they have successfully got over the message that Kate is and has been working; they have reduced alot of the media madness by Kate disappearing & by seeding several articles saying that any engagement is going to be along time off. But there have also been a couple of articles about alleged sighting so that people know that they are still together – Birkhall & PC’s birthday – so you don’t get all of the “they’ve split” articles.
The longer that Kate stays out of sight, the more I am convinced that they are fine & that an engagement may be sooner than expected and because of their approach, there will even be an element of surprise and a chance of creating more of a fairy tale ending. And as Asgal says, they may be on that beach in Mustique at this very moment…
—- Or he could be in a bunker in Afganistan!!
November 26th, 2008 16:59
JJ, I hope you stay warm
I remember the not for18 months story as well around the time of the Austrian wedding but the “needing to meet all the officials” angle seems like a lame excuse if we figure that Diana had a courtship that lasted from end of summer 1980 to an announcement in February, 1981 and they managed to get whatever they needed done in the 5 months to July 1981.
A Christmas, 2008 engagement followed by a June/July 2009 wedding would also give everyone plenty of time. I doubt they’d need more time with Kate then they did for Diana.
Although I am looking forward to the thought of seeing Mother Middleton take on Mrs. Michael Fawcett and going mano a mano over the floral arrangments and the colour of the flower girl’s sash.
Fawcett: I said, Mango for the sash.
Ma Midds: No, puce!
Fawcett: Not for a summer wedding, you skank! Mango it is!
MaMidds: No, puce!
Also, noticed at the PP website that in the Starlite announcement they are thanking all of the suppliers who made it possible.
Amscan, Everts, and Orion Confectionery (must be for my handsome Jimbo’s cakes) are the three that are listed.
So, PP is just the middleman with their website? Their stuff doesn’t look customised at all, it just looks like they order it from Asia and the US, make it look pretty on the website, then ship it out to UK customers.
Hey, it’s a living.
November 26th, 2008 17:09
Hahahah Alsgal from what we have “heard” of Carole Middleton, I think she is more than up to the task of taking on Michael Fawcett! If they get engaged you could imagine the stories coming out about the in fighting from “sources” and aides about meddling middleton. Kate may need some xanax to get her through it
November 26th, 2008 17:13
oh jj,it will move from drama to DRAMA,lol. Trust me,this will be a media event that won’t soon be forgotten. Total insanity to say the least.
November 26th, 2008 17:34
That’s true, if those two eventually get married, there will be a Katy Mama Drama fo sure.:)
If that’s true about Sophie losing her patronages, it could also be because:
a) the Royals are scaling back and trying to concentrate their efforts to make a greater impact/ reduce traveling costs, etc.
b) Sophie is leaving Edward for her secret lover, former tennis star Martina Navratilova, who has just bought them a home on the Costa Smeralda
or c) for the reason our super sleuth Lisa mentioned, that Kate will be the new Patron.
Starlite, the Roller Disco charity, Party Pieces, the children’s clothing line, Unicef — it’s all been about children, children, children.
I think BP has just unwittingly revealed it’s hand.
November 26th, 2008 17:53
Someone on the IF mentioned the scaling back aspect as well, but do you really think the RF would take patronages away from children’s charities to save money? Sounds kinda harsh to me. It could just be a mistake but then again…:)
November 26th, 2008 19:08
It doesn’t doesn’t sound like they are taking them away, but rather that they are reassigning them, if your theory is correct Lisa
Although waiting until after the official engagement announcement was made might have been wiser?
Should be a good thing for all involved, and I believe there was a precedent — didn’t Diana take over a few that had belonged to HRH Princess Margaret? GIN (Girls Institute for nanotechnology) and RUM (Royal Ulster Museum) are two that come to mind.
November 26th, 2008 19:44
Can you believe the DM had to throw KM somewhere into a story line by saying she is not in w/16yr olds? Peaches, Daisy, Georgia, etc. are what’s in. I am sorry but atleast KM does not look strung out or high like some of these other role models do. All they are doing is glamorizing this herione chic phenom that Kate Moss started anyway.
November 26th, 2008 23:41
It’s being reprorted that The Queen want her family to show some support through recession.
http://tinyurl.com/6o5pm9
November 27th, 2008 02:00
No Big weddings on the way I’d say.
November 27th, 2008 02:26
Was that the DM gracie? I thought it was the Guardian.
Either way could you really see Kate being in with 16 year olds? She does not dress in the most fashionable way and sometimes goes OTT the whole demure look. She has not achieved anything i.e. not album or single or has not worked in fashion like Kate Moss. They are talking about these women as fashion icons more than real role models. Not that Kate would be a role model atm, as she has not achieved anything.
Thanks Rman for the link.
November 27th, 2008 06:03
The Queen married during a recession puaola
November 27th, 2008 06:07
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/27/do2701.xml
“With Prince William signed up as a pilot for the RAF’s search and rescue branch, plans for a major charity headed by William and Harry are said to have been shelved.
It has been decided that the Princes should stick to military careers rather than glossy, fund-raising events. “This is not the right time for ribbon-cutting,” I am told.”
So I guess those were the big events Matthews’ help was no longer needed for – not a wedding. It is sad though why they cut down charity work during a recession. Don’t people need MORE charitable efforts now not less? Also this sounds very much like at least HM was behind the decision to have both her grandons become involved longer in their military careers. So much for the “big surprise” – only to CH it seems.
November 27th, 2008 07:40
B, I can understand why 16yrs old would think Kate “not cool.” I don’t get why they have to bring her into the article at all. If she does not appeal to the teens then why mention her? Personally, I don’t think children/teens should look to socialites/hollywood for their role models anyway.
I was watching Windsor program on PBS last night and was surprised how much I like PC and Princess Anne. Andrew and Edward came across as more self-centered. Interesting show.
November 27th, 2008 07:52
I don’t understand why SA would not put PW on the alumni, he is a prince after all and has brought alot of recognition to the school. I am sure he will be added at a later time. I wonder if they are waiting to see if PW and KM get married? Then that would warrent KM being put on their IMO.
November 27th, 2008 11:40
Oh right, sorry gracie. I see your point now I thought you were asking why Kate was not seen as being cool by 16 year olds. Sorry, my bad.
I think there is a difference between a recession in the 21st century and post-war in the late 1940s (was it 1947?). HM and PP’s wedding was a chance for happiness and symbolised new beginnings. HM still had to abide by the rationing rules like everyone else though. Must more is known about the RF now than was known then and a lot of the gloss has been removed. Things are very different now than they were 60-odd years ago including attitudes and public opinion.
November 27th, 2008 11:48
The financial experts compare it to that recession, as equal and it might get worse, lets see.
November 27th, 2008 12:05
hi all,
my take on events is that KM has ‘gone into hiding’ because her relationship with pw is effectively over. she surely doesn’t want the pappzz hounding her in london if she’s feeling dejected, and how can she not be feeling blue?
pw’s announcement of his future military training plans, imho, means he has zero plans to marry km for years at least, and that is tantamount to ending it. it would be folly for her to continue to wait, and i’m sure her parents have counseled her in this regard.
During her last major breakup with pw she believed it was to be short term and cleverly displayed a happy countenance and looked more glamourous than usual. This worked, and pw was soon regretting his decision.
But their relationship was wobbly. Remember that long patch where pw acted so cold and sullen and distant toward km in 2007? such as at her book publishing reception, where he barely acknowledged her and went off to dinner without her? that was typical behavior for months.
i suspect km is hunkering down in order to heal her broken heart and do some soul searching in the comfort, privacy, and safety of her parents’ home; she has to decide what direction to take now that her dreams may be dashed.
imho, km is lucky to be free of pw; he seems immature and undeserving of her; i’m sure she doesn’t feel that way now, but maybe years from now she’ll look back and realize she was lucky.
November 27th, 2008 12:22
Anastasia
We don’t really know what is going on but one small correction. At the time to reflect book launch William had dinner with Kate her mother and I think if I remember correctly Camilla Parker Bowles daughter.
November 27th, 2008 12:29
If people don’t go out and spend, the shops won’t sell stuff. When the shops can’t sell stuff, they have to cancel orders from their suppliers and let go of the shop workers. When the shops don’t buy supplies from the manufacturers, the manufacturers have to lay off their workers. When the shops don’t sell taxable items, the local government cannot collect tax. When the government cannot collect tax it has less to spend, and therefore needs to reduce the number of hours it can pay for street cleaners, teaching assistants, nurses and policemen. If it gets bad enough, it has to lay these workers off and close down hospitals, crowd even more children into each classroom, and reduce the number of police patrols in crime ridden areas.
So, while being thrifty is always good, and living within one’s means is important, it is also good to spread the wealth as it helps stimulate the economy to keep people working and businesses in business.
People don’t have to spend money on themselves, though — they can go spend it on someone who needs it.
Last year, the inner city rescue mission in our city had 33 companies volunteering by the end of Oct. to donate turkeys for the holidays.
This year, they have yet to receive a single phone call.
Please give to those in need, and I wish you all a very Happy Thanksgiving.
November 27th, 2008 13:55
anastasia, I do believe that is far from the truth. All is fine with them, something is going on behind the scenes but not that. There’s no proof that things are over.
November 27th, 2008 14:43
Hello,
I have spent eight of the last eleven days out of the UK and 40+ hours in an aeroplane or airport so my insides ,outside ,head and legs are all over the place and I’m trying very hard to stay eyes open until bed time tonight.
The recent post have initially been about the PW photographs and the message there was clear to me. If he doent’t relax his obsesive and childish loathing of the press and paps they will continue to come at him either on the internet or in countries away from the jurisdiction of the PCC.
His attitude has I believe contributed to a high proportion of the unfair attacks on KM and family and are now endangering his own credibility to an extend never before suffered by a Royal Prince especially a future sovereign.
His mother and father were both pestered by the press but in the end they had the sense to eventually accept them in an adult way and in many ways got them on side and used them to their own advantage.
PW attitude and stubborn characteristic is I fear almost at that point when it seems that he can’t accept them so will suffer the consequences in all parts of his life. I wonder if he can accept that this childishness may have contributed to many of the problems in his relationship with KM? It certainly hasn’t helped them but he probably can’t accept that Royal personage lots of his private life become his public life.
A recent posting by anastasia is quite a good summary of PW’s behaviour to KM, deliberate or put on during last six months of 2007. Although I remember being taken to task on here for making similar points.
The acceptance too that senior royals have played a part in the PW/KM relationship is also interesting and shows that eventually many points raised are eventually shown to be very near the truth as was the last minute decision of PW to extend his service career. I still believe that that one decision could be the make or break of his and KM’s relationship, even perhaps their life and future happiness.
Enought ! Now that I’ve bored myself it’s time for bed.
Last of all. Vote for Austin on SCD just like Zara told you to. Ha ha
November 27th, 2008 14:57
anastasia, you got your facts wrong. There was hardly any sighting of William and Kate in autumn 2007. The October Bouji exit in which he was angry at the paps pursuing them, the book launch at which he joined the Middleton’s for dinner (though he had arrived late), then there were pics of them together leaving Peter’s birthday party and later a nightclub all looking like they usually do when doing so. They never look “cuddly” when leaving such premises. They always walk at a distance and just try to get away as fast as possible. And finally the hunting pics of them kissing. I fail to see picture evidence of him acting “sullen, cold or distant” with Kate. If he was “sullen” than because of the paps invading his privacy….
I also don’t see why Kate should “hide” for 2 months because of a break up especially when the papers are dragging her name throrgh the mudd? If she was a private person again because she was no longer dating William, her lawyers would have advised her to take legal action against papers such as the DM belittering her family’s reputation. Also William would surely want the word out there that he’s back “on the market”. He wouldn’t have a chance to seriously appraoch another woman as long as he is still “officially” dating Kate.
I agree with ked about Will’s press problems. William needs to get over his hatred for the press. I am a little shocked that apparently noone has counseled him in that respect. I wouldn’t want him to engage in PR and spin games like his parents but just act NORMAL like the press wasn’t around. I guess that is easier said than done but he needs to learn that him looking angry and unhappy will not reflect back badly on the paps but only on himself.
November 27th, 2008 15:01
Thank you Alsgal and same to you and all.
Happy Thanksgiving holidays !
November 27th, 2008 15:43
Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
November 27th, 2008 16:02
I respect both opinions, but I do think both ked and anastasia (
a very beautiful name, btw!) have gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick on this one.
I think Kate Middleton is laying low because it’s beneficial for her, it’s beneficial for William, and it’s beneficial for their relationship.
No matter how many times people try to get around it, I STILL haven’t seen a statement from 1 single person who could explain how it would be beneficial to Kate in any way to remain in ‘hiding’ or remain low-key and out of sight if she wasn’t still in a relationship with Wills.
If Wills and Kate were no longer together, Kate wouldn’t need to remain quiet, low key, out of sight, or anything else. There would be no reason for Kate to “live down” the embarrassment of her accidental fall during the roller-disco charity party, or to remain out of sight.
If she wasn’t with William, WHY would she need to “live down” the results of her fall? Who would she be “living down the embarrassment” for? Certainly not herself!
A private citizen who takes an accidental fall that gets recorded on camera would have absolutely no need to hide for 2 months to recover from such a thing. First because it was an accident, and second because.. she’s only human. I, or any other private citizen, might live quietly for a couple of weeks to get over the embarrassment, but that’s about it. If Kate wasn’t with William, the photographs of her fall would be very minor and unimportant to her life.
Also, if William and Kate were no longer together, Kate would be out and about living her life, going to clubs and being seen. I’m not suggesting that if they were broken up then Kate would be doing the exact same things she did in 2007, but I am saying that she would be doing NORMAL things, just like Pippa.
November 27th, 2008 16:03
Cont’d
Certainly Kate would be going to the same type of events and parties that Pippa currently attends, and it’s logical that she might occasionally go out to dinner with friends even if it wasn’t with a guy, and it’s also logical that she would be seen out in public somewhere every once in a while.
After all, if Kate were single again, she would probably want to live some sort of normal life, if for no other reason than to just show the entire world that she’s okay and doing fine, even without William.
Not only that, but Wills isn’t an ogre or a monster! He’s not so mean and evil that he would continue to appear in public all hale and hearty, but ask Kate to symbolically live like a hermit in a cave after they’d broken up just to keep the press out of their business. That would be an extremely mean and selfish thing for William to do, for him to ask Kate to effectively put her life on hold AFTER they’d broken up, just to keep the media from knowing their personal business.
Also, if they WERE broken up, there is no benefit to Kate to remain completely out of the public eye, because it would terribly limit her life, and for no reason.
Seriously, what reason would a private citizen who isn’t dating royalty have for living like a hermit in a cave? What possible benefit could be gained for Kate, as a single woman, by doing something so depressing and limiting?
William has managed to remain friends with every single one of his exes. That doesn’t sound like a guy who makes unfair or unreasonable demands on people if they’re not in a relationship with him anymore. No, there is absolutely no logical reason for a single woman to remain in hiding for almost 3 months.
But a woman who’s dating a prince and who wants to effect a little image repair? It makes absolutely PERFECT sense for such a woman to remain in hiding. A woman in that position has a LOT to gain, and nothing to lose.
November 27th, 2008 16:06
Last part:
By staying out of sight and keeping her life very low-key, Kate is putting the brakes on the media being in her day to day life. The last known valid information anyone has read regarding Kate is that she’s working for Party Pieces, and that information was validated by Party Pieces itself. Other than that, nothing.
Think about that: NOTHING. No visits to the market, no visits to restaurants in London with family, no holidays (vacations for the Americans) with family, no visits to the dry cleaners, no shopping, no society events, no visits to the cinema, nothing. NOTHING.
Kate hasn’t been seen in public AT ALL since the roller disco party on 17th September, and she hasn’t even been seen in photographs since the 15th of October.
Next week is December. We STILL haven’t seen Kate. Such a low-key life is only beneficial if Kate is in a relationship with Wills and they are repairing her public image by having Kate keep a low-key and quiet profile. Look at all that Kate stands to gain by doing this:
She’s out of the public’s eye, so they can’t find anything NEW to complain about in connection with Kate. Now that it’s been validated that Kate works for Party Pieces, the public knows that Kate is somewhere working in Berkshire, living quietly. But the best part is, that’s ALL that the public knows. They don’t know ANYTHING ELSE. So Kate’s image is being repaired simply by default.
Everyone has their own lives to live, their own concerns and problems to worry about. The average member of the public doesn’t spend their days talking about Kate Middleton. Most members of the public have notoriously short-term memories when it comes to people in the public eye. People in the public eye are only as Good– or as Bad– as their last known public information.
The last info the public had about Kate was that she’s working and minding her own business. People read that she was at the Highgrove party for Charles’ 60th birthday, but she didn’t appear in public. So what NEW things can she be criticised for? The answer? NOTHING.
That fact alone helps to repair her reputation. And repairing Kate’s reputation is only important if she’s with a public figure like Prince William. A private citizen doesn’t have to worry about what the general public thinks of them.
Also…Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans!!
November 27th, 2008 16:07
… especially when the Queen herself just asked her family to remain low key and not be seen publicly to indulge in any “glamourous” behaviour. I am sure any such advise would also have been communicated to Kate since her actions reflect on William and also back on the RF as a whole.
Good post, mapleleaf.
November 27th, 2008 16:39
Nice post ML.
November 27th, 2008 16:45
Yes good post. We may see Kate alittle next month or hear about her working with the Starlight Foundation. They have really slowed down the club hopping a lot. But everynow and then we see Pippa looking happy as ever which somehow lets us know that Kate is doing just fine. Kate may be doing other underground things as well.
November 27th, 2008 17:21
Great post ML! Happy Thanksgiving to all..now back to my pumpkin pie!
November 27th, 2008 23:34
hi all,
thanks for the compliments on my screen name
maybe i have the facts wrong; i wish i did; but i don’t think so…
that hunting pic of pw ‘kissing’ km, for the cameras, for example, was purely cynical and inauthentic….it was for the cameras…
as for the book signing….that was discussed on here at length at the time…there were a couple of pics in particular showing pw looking cold, distant, sullen…..(and not just at that event, but before and afterwards also)
okay, maybe he did finally show up to the dinner? if so, then he’s off the hook in that regard
but, they had a protracted wobbly spell; maybe it was spring of 2007? somewhere in there they went to the indian ocean resort, and there, too, pw was supposedly inattentive to km….
anyhow, imho, if km and pw are broken up (and i believe they are), then of course km would want to lie low and keep out of sight….after all, there are enough stories about her in the various rags, as we are all well aware: the DM, Sun, etc….neverending stories
of course she’d be quite the topic of the rags if it were definitively determined that she and pw had broken up….all kinds of probings about exactly why, when, wherefore…..
endless articles, perhaps speculation about her capacity for tell-all tales, etc…(though i think she’ll keep mum)
so, of course i think she’d be hounded by the press, for some months, at least…so of course she wants to avoid that misery…
i mean, i think of how i’d feel if i were km; i’d be feeling sad and devastated and i surely would not want an invasive, intruding media poking the camera lens in my face….
no matter how you slice it, to me, it seems km has been effectively abandoned, and rather cruelly, since it seems pw’s announcement took her by surprise….all the more reason km would want to quietly and privately regain her esteem and dignity, and try to avoid questions or photos by a meddling media
anyway, just my .02
November 27th, 2008 23:45
ps: i just need to hammer home my point, sorry!
assuming pw and km have broken up, don’t you agree km would be devastated?
i mean, she’s stayed with pw through thick and thin, it’s clear she’s in love with him and very loyal
she’s been with him for, what, five years?
that’s a long time; desite the wobbly patches and breakups, five years is a very long time;
one simply can’t dust oneself off and quickly put on a smile and get back ‘out there’
it takes time to heal; to recover; and this is best accomplished in private, without the media spotlight and inquisitivness;
we haven’t seen her since the skating rink and that’s right around the time of pw’s earthquake announcement
her skating rink pictures were innocent; she’s led a perfectly acceptable existence; imho, she has no need to ‘rehabilitate’ her reputation; it was already perfectly fine;
so, my hypotheses stand: they’re broken up, and km is healing her heart in private
November 27th, 2008 23:56
one more point, doubly sorry!
imho, pw has already loudly broadcast his newly single status
those pics of him at that party with paris and the other woman were incredibly unseemly
no man in even the most minimally committed relationship would allow himself to be photographed in such a compromising manner
believe me, this holds for the ‘average joe’ (no, not that joe…not ‘joe the plumber) and even moreso for royalty
a young man in a loving relationship does not allow himself to be photographed, unaccompanied, and lighthearted, in the midst of those lasses
those pictures, and that behavior, told all
November 28th, 2008 03:43
alison, I see that you have your pov firmly established so nothing I say will probably change your mind but I can’t help myself…
The Seychelles trip was in August 2007. No reports of their behaviour on the trip came out. Only a picture of them lying on the beach both reading. I do not know where you take it from that William “ignored” Kate on this trip. The press reported it as a romantic “make up” vacation.
If you find that cute kissing pic cynical, I can’t help you. That’s you pov. I think they looked cute together.
Also you said William looked sullen with Kate – at the book launch. But him and Kate were not even pictured together. There are only pictures of William leaving. He was angry with the paps pursueing him outside – as usual. He looked sullen because of the paps – not because of Kate who was nowhere around then. They left separately.
William’s behaviour when going through a goup of paps while leaving a club/restaurant is always the same – always angry and upset and always so because of the photographers not because of his g/f. Again if you see that differently I will probably not be able to change your pov but that’s how I see it.
The “wobble” in spring was pretty much the same as “the wobble” now. A time without pictures and endless media and forum discussion about the state of the relationship. But no solid proof of any trouble in the relationship itself. Just like they turned up on holiday and the wings together after the spring “wobble” they will now.
about the Paris pics:
“compromising manner”? TALKING to Christina Aguilera who is a married woman with child whose husband was sitting right next to her? And SITTING next to Paris Hilton completely ignoring her? Even Paris Hilton herself who is certainly not one to let a chance for good gossip go, said she only made polite conversation with William and that all the rest was just tabloid fabrication. If you want to condemn William for talking to a woman and the stories the papers make up about that, that’s of course your prerogative but I personally find it unfounded.
And he didn’t “allow” anyone to take that picture. I am rather sure he was furious his privacy was invaded like that while at a club – never before has he been pictured inside!
I guess those “compromising pictures” of Prince Harry with a “mystery blond” mean it’s over him and Chelsy then.
http://www.fadedyouthblog.com/64471/what-would-chelsy-say/
Both Princes are probably approached by women when in clubs without their “girls”. I think they both act very gentlemanly when this happens, make polite conversation and leave it at that! Why does noone make a big deal of pics of Kate talking to other men or Chelsy partying with them even hugging and kissing but WIlliam is always made out to be a cad?
Kate was seen laughing and dancing with other men at the roller disco –
http://tinyurl.com/5ls8kl
http://tinyurl.com/5zfq43
and even posing for pics
http://tinyurl.com/55cqwn
Going by your arguments she allowed herself to be pictured in a compromising position when she was in a relationship. If at all then Kate was announcing her “single status” well before William.
Kate’s reputation HAS suffered. You may still hold her in high regards (as do many here) but if you go by what the papers write she has been lazy, desperate waity Katie for well about a year now and has been harshly criticised for her supposed inappropriate behaviour at the roller disco. Her rep has gone down and many see her as useless party girl and social climber (for the record I don’t). Her image DOES need repair especially when it comes to her work ethic which is something many look for in a future royal.
November 28th, 2008 03:44
Sorry anastasia of course!
November 28th, 2008 05:22
Where is kate spoted?
November 28th, 2008 05:51
No where yet
November 28th, 2008 09:13
William & Kate have not broken up. If anything, her absence from paparazzi tells me she is laying extremely low so as not to upset the apple cart any further. They remain very much on, I believe.
November 28th, 2008 09:49
It’s very important for everybody to know that just because we don’t see William & Kate out together does not mean they don’t see each other privately in their own homes. They have a private life as well and a public one. I think this is the big misunderstanding that most royal blogs have.
November 28th, 2008 10:07
Harry & Chelsy wasn’t in public together in awhile until they was spotted at the game recently. So William & Kate will do the same.
November 28th, 2008 13:49
hi all,
Trixie, i don’t remember that you were posting here back when all these events occurred in real time and were discussed at length…..
but there were lots of pics and lots of detailed posts….
in any case, if you want to maintain an optimistic view, that is fine
more later, anastasia
November 28th, 2008 13:54
Anastasia, Trixie and Mapleleaf have given the facts as it was, old or new posters. Who have made up or invented non existent events have been 1-2 persons only, never read in any other site but here. Sorry and I can asure you that I am one of the most senior posters survived by Rman.
November 28th, 2008 13:56
And without the intention of causing harm, yes it was widely discussed with Will, then Ked and now you. The curiosity out of all of this is that those invented events was never picked up by the tabloids, press, any kind of media.
November 30th, 2008 13:44
Roman..“ Chelsy and Harry were photographed going to dinner together a week or so before the going away party for the bike trek at the nightclub. Then on the night of the going away party Chelsy was photographed arriving at the same club William and Harry were at with her friends from Law School, as well as reports of them both saying hi to Paris H. Then after the bike trek, come Charles birthday, Chelsy was photographed going to Clarence House the night of one of the parties in the black long formal gown. Then a week later she and Harry appeared in photos attending the Rugby match, so we have seen them out and about together.
Kate is reported to have attended Chares birthday party and most likely she was, but we haven’t seen her with William since the wedding they attended together the end of the summer at. Kate has not been spotted anywhere since the car driving photos .
Now we see Pippa and Carole Middleton attending a event together, no Kate in sight, something is going on , just not sure what,but maybe her mother is trying to buffer her from the onslaught of press. I’m not sure, but something has definately changed.