Princes William and Harry join posh Gentlemen’s Club
Princes William and Harry have joined a posh London gentlemen’s club.
They accepted honorary memberships of the £1,000-a-year private Turf Club — a world away from the trendy nightspots they have partied at such as Boujis and Mahiki.
The old-fashioned Turf Club dates back more than 200 years and is a stone’s throw from the boys’ London home in St James’s Palace.
Secretary Lt Col Oliver Breakwell is convinced the boys will enjoy the change of pace from their previous haunts.
He said: “We’re very dyed-in-the-wool. Our members come to enjoy a decent glass of wine and a good lunch or dinner.” (via The Sun)
December 6th, 2008 08:26
Terrific Club when i see at situs about that club.
maybe my lover so correct join in that club cause his gentlemen too! ha..ha..
maybe if there is have gentlemen ladies club, Catherine middleton adn Chelsy Davy join too, and me become they friends he..he..
December 6th, 2008 09:33
I was looking at the diary for the RF and PW has no engagements listed atleast through 1/16/09. Harry has two events later in the month. PW leaves for training in January, so it looks like we might not see him until Christmas church services. I would like to see one photo of KM just to see if she is alive and kicking!
December 6th, 2008 11:36
Gracie the young royals and their girlfriends/boyfriends seem to keep it low as the Queen requested her direct family.
Bea had been partying hard lately – weekly during august, september, october and until mid november. No headlight pictures – nothing.
Eugene is in India or already got out of there – but perhaps we will not get to know much either if she follows through with her grandma’s wishes, i.e. photo of Bea in a beach in Thailand going wild last year during her gap. Today wouldn’t precisely give the image the Monarchy wants to show with the recession.
The only extended person is Pippa Middleton – whom works as a party planner and its natural she will go to promote, pprr, etc. in high profile events.
December 6th, 2008 11:44
Yeah they may keep a very low profile but we may see them hunting at Sandringham, you never know.
December 6th, 2008 12:14
I see The Duchess of Cornwall is at Sandringham taking a nice walk.
http://www.abacausa.com/ximagi/search.php?u=&assignment_id=48011
December 6th, 2008 15:11
Great pics rman.
December 6th, 2008 17:05
I have a feeling Kate and PW will be engaged by christmas and kate will be at Sandringham this Christmas. She is no where to be found and I think this means great news. they attended too many public functions together to have broken up. I think it is the total opposite…..
December 6th, 2008 17:22
Many of us are hoping the same thing, Maddie.
It’s just so bizarre not to see her at all — not even at the Waitrose or out walking near the Middleton house in Bucklebury.
It’s like she’s on another continent. I’m still thinking George Clooney/Darfur.
December 6th, 2008 17:34
It is interesting that we have heard very little about William recently. All of the royals have been very low profile. I am hoping that you are right Maddie. It would be great!
December 6th, 2008 18:08
I know that I am double posting but I just read an article about Kate’s Mom. It was reported that she talked to Mandrake who seemed to be a fair reporter. He just reported what she said without comment. She was speaking out about the coverage that she and her family are receiving. I read it twice and thought how the media can really be cruel. I thought of all the cruel comments being made about her family by people who do not know them. I thought about this woman who with her husband embraced the love of their children , the importance of family, and how hard they must have worked to build their business. I thought how much of an addition Kate would be to the RF because of her family. I hope that William as I suspect truly loves Kate and will open his family to her and to her family. They will both enrich each other. I am sorry for such a long post. The link to the article is
http://tinyurl.com/57qrmx
December 6th, 2008 18:08
Mandrake has an article with quotes from Carol Middleton allegedly from last weekend. They really sounds like they are taken out of context though. As if some things are missing..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/3629589/Kate-Middletons-vulnerable-mother-speaks-out-for-first-time.html
December 6th, 2008 18:28
Lisa,
You could be right come to think about it.
I did look for a continuation of the article.
December 6th, 2008 19:02
I am reminded of the Hon. Frances Shand-Kydd sending a letter to the Times in, I believe, November of 1980 asking the press to please leave her daughter Lady Diana alone.
We all know what happened in February, 1981.
Something tells me everything will be OK for Mrs. Middleton and her three children and her business.
December 6th, 2008 19:05
It does feel like something is missing Lisa. I mean what was the talk really about? I know all of that attention must be hard on them but when two people are in love and one is a Prince in today’s media world, it can get really interesting. But I like that she didn’t talk about W&K.
December 6th, 2008 19:08
I agree Alsgal, they will be okay and I’m glad that they are trying to get it out there that they are fine. But why do I get the feeling something is coming? It’s not a made up feeling but I really do feel it.
December 6th, 2008 19:09
Hmmmm … also forget to mention I thought it interesting that the reliable Mandrake also states Carole has never met Her Majesty.
What I should make of that, I don’t know. Not once in 5+ years has the Queen met the mother of her heir’s heir’s long term GF, who comes from a remarkably close-knit family? Seems a bit odd, even for the Royals.
December 6th, 2008 19:11
What is going on, this is a new development.
Carole speaking out, Oh no and to the press.
Sounds like nothing to lose now.
Her daughter has probably been given the pink slip as in she’s no longer in the running.
December 6th, 2008 19:18
Well, I think I remember that Ked did say in a about two weeks there would be a flurry of information which would make certain things start to make sense.
That was about two weeks ago.
December 6th, 2008 19:20
so did Karagios.
December 6th, 2008 19:27
I don’t think W&K is over at all. I think Carole just didn’t like the way her family was being treated by the media and she was allowed to speak. Meaning that she must have talked to William & Kate and they must have said yes lets get that out there. I do not believe for one second that she would speak out without a word from William. I just read some other blogs and they think it’s over so she is speaking but something tells me that is far from the truth. She has been allowed to do so.
December 6th, 2008 19:33
I just read the article and I hope things were taken out of context. She comes across as caring for her business, then her children. Yes, she needs to make a living, but I would think she would be more concerned about them as any mother would. I wonder if there is a rift in KM and Carole relationship? Perhaps it could be caused from the unwanted attention on JM and those who are curious about his manhood. She might resent KM for the trouble that being w/PW has helped but also hurt the reputation of their family. Honestly, I would be concerned to that her “not my only child” KM is elusive and seems to be in hiding. Maybe she is starting to realize that if KM is done w/PW that to be on the wrong side of the RF is a bad thing. I think if they are still together, she would not have talked about these concerns w/a reporter. I think it would be more benefical for her to have a lawyer speak on her family behalf. Atleast it would be more understandable than what she told Mandrake. I think some people are not going to feel sorry for her and it could cause more unwanted press.
December 6th, 2008 19:38
Yeah, I don’t think Mrs. M. talking to the press is a very good sign.
December 6th, 2008 19:41
Rman, I don’t think PW has anything to do with it. Honestly I think he might be out of the picture and Carole is concerned about what the press will unleash when they finally get to talk about it. If PW was still envolved the statements made would have been more thought out and not done at the races. There would be a letter from their attorneys sent to Mandrake on their behalf. Be prepared as I think the poop is gonna hit the fan!
December 6th, 2008 19:41
Alsgal, I don’t think that is accurate that she has never met the Queen.
December 6th, 2008 19:42
I am not going to even touch on some of the conclusions people,especially Kate haters will make from this article. I am sure it will be a 10 page thread on the IF by morning and that is a shame. These comments seem disjointed and out of context as if they were part of a larger piece that was picked apart. Having your daughter dating the future King of England must be stressful at time at best.
December 6th, 2008 19:44
Rman, let’s hope that’s the case. Maybe what Ked meant was that Carole was finally being allowed to speak out?
OTOH Carole is one formidable, self-made woman, and I can’t imagine a 26 year-old Prince would tell her what to do.
I also don’t think it’s because she’s given up because why wouldn’t she have just said, “My daughter Catherine is no longer dating Prince William — please leave us alone.”
Wouldn’t that have made more sense if PW/KM were no longer together and Mrs. Middleton no longer wanted to feel “vulnerable.”
What I think is more likely is that KM/PW are still together, PW is still dithering or delaying, apparently Miguel Head has NOT stepped in to help them PR wise, and Carole is wondering if PW is ever going to propose. As is Kate.
December 6th, 2008 19:46
On the other hand, what she said makes me think that the relationship is ongoing, she foresees more trouble for her family, and she is just asking the press to back off. So, it could also be a good sign.
I suspect that Mandrake cornered her at the races, she was frustrated and spoke off the cuff and from her heart. I don’t see anything wrong with what she said. Those who want to see bad in it, will, regardless of what or how it was said.
December 6th, 2008 19:47
I agree with you Alsgal.
December 6th, 2008 19:48
Rman, in the article it said Carole had never even met the Queen.
So, I think Carole must have pointed this out to Richard eden of Mandrake in order to prove that all the “pardon” “toilet” stuff couldn’t even be true as she had not even met the Queen.
Which is distressing to me, after 5+ years of supposedly near-engagement status.
December 6th, 2008 19:52
personally,I have felt the Middletons should have told the press where to get off at long ago and I am not going to second guess where these comments came from or why they appear now. I don’t see her comments,although edited,as having any baring on the state of William and Kate’s relationship one way or another. It was about time these people started fighting back and I am glad they did!
December 6th, 2008 19:53
Carole would remain quiet as a mouse if Kate were about to enter the Royal Family. I believe the speaking out to the press does not bode well at all.
Rumblings and more news coming I predict.
December 6th, 2008 19:54
Well we just have to wait and see. I just don’t think it’s over. They really showed their happiness this year, they went on vacation together and the last picture of them was fillded with happiness too. I don’t think they really like the attention they got when they was in the caribbean. When you look back at the pictures, Carole seem to be hiding a bit. It’s a lot for them to deal with. But if this story is true, then I don’t think she would have spoken out without some kind of word from William. Mandrake did say that Kate was getting some protection paid by William and Charles but we have not seen any evidence from that I don’t think. Even if it was over, she still would have said something to CH or William so things would be in the clear. But I don’t think it’s over at all and Mandrake didn’t give any hint that it was. It was just a artical on a mother that don’t like the way her family is being talked about. If it’s true, then I don’t blame her. If you read some blogs comments on The Middletons, it would make you scream and that’s no joke.
December 6th, 2008 20:01
Then that would be distressing if she has never met the Queen but maybe that is the last thing they would have to do before a announcement. Now I just know she has met Charles at least. Something is coming for sure.
December 6th, 2008 20:02
The problem with this article is that it is a blind piece. We get the answer without knowing what the question was. So it is kind of tough to know what they were actually talking about.
The questions could be
“How do you feel now that William and Kate are no longer together”?
followed by her response:
“I’m concerned about my business; that’s my focus,” she said. “I don’t want the attention to detract from that. I’m also worried for my family: I have three children – not just Catherine.”
Or
How will your family handle the enormous attention they will get once Willaim and Catherine’s engagement is announced
Again the response
“I’m concerned about my business; that’s my focus,” she said. “I don’t want the attention to detract from that. I’m also worried for my family: I have three children – not just Catherine.”
So it is really impossible to tell what the conversation was really about.
December 6th, 2008 20:03
I do wonder, given how the BRF works, why poor Carole is suddenly (and curiously after the SAR announcement) having to speak out and defend Kate — first on the PP website, and now to Mandrake.
It would seem that a Fatty Soames or some backstairs Palace PR flunky would be able to handle this on their behalf.
Having someone like Tara Palmer-Tompkinson, who previously released a PR statement saying that rumours were untrue that she’d ever bonked William (when no one had even been asking that question, darling Tara) defend one’s GF to the press is not the same thing.
December 6th, 2008 20:04
Excellent points, Lisa.
December 6th, 2008 20:05
To make myself crystal clear before departing for the evening…the above post suggest hypothetical questions that could have been asked to receive the responses that carol provided. Have a great night everyone!
December 6th, 2008 20:17
Yeah we know Lisa. What gets me is that he did not hint on a break up at all. In fact the media is not hinting or specualting at all. I just don’t believe that William would have put Kate though all of that this year, just to let her go afterwards.
December 6th, 2008 20:31
Why is she concerned now when there has been virtually no press on KM, just an occasional Pippa sighting. That’s it! I think she should have been more vocal during the year when it was getting really bad. Maybe something is coming out of the woodwork and she knows and is expressing her fears before it happens?
December 6th, 2008 20:42
Night Lisa.
December 6th, 2008 20:50
There has been some silly articals on Pippa too. Saying that she is trying to climb the social ladder and the whole Waity Katie thing must really get on their nerves. I think she is fearing how the paps is going to react if a announcement comes. I not too long ago said that I was wondering how the media will react to such news. Gracie I think something is coming too but lets just pray that it’s not sad news. I don’t think we have been rooting for William & Kate for nothing. When it will come? It will be a surprise to us. I did say it will come when we least expect it to.
December 6th, 2008 21:18
I don’t like sound of that article at all. Lisa does make a good point that we don’t know what the question was but I don’t like it one bit. Carole should not be talking to a reporter at all she should know better. It’s very bizarre that after 5 years of silence articles are now popping up from Pippa and Carole it is almost as if they have nothing to loose. The wording has a very negative connotation.
I don’t like it at all…..
December 6th, 2008 21:27
I’m sorry alsgal I didn’t fully read your comment. If they are wondering when he will finally pop the question, I would say lets not put any pressure on the guy. Us guys need some time to think about how to do that. Do you just get on you knees or what? There so many ways to do it.
December 6th, 2008 21:32
I think that it is coming soon. I don’t think that all of these newspapers would say that Kate was with William at Charles’s 60th if it were not true. I don’t think that Kate would have gone if things weren’t good between them. I think that with Kate taking such a low profile the media is digging up anything about the other middleton siblings. I think that is what Kate’s Mom was reacting to with frustration. Things might have just been quieting down a little.
Then the press starts all over again. I am sure that she knows what is going on with W & K but can’t say anything about it. The news could be that they are getting married. Holding onto that could be hard. I keep thinking about the wording of the articles about Kate’s job. All of them said that the Queen said that an engagement could not be announced until she got a job. That presupposes that they are engaged and waiting for her to give the go ahead to tell it to the world.I too am still pulling for them. I am keeping my fingers crossed too.
December 6th, 2008 21:36
JJ, you are right. They have kept silent for a longtime now but that’s why I don’t believe she would say anything without having a little word with William & Kate. I think they agreed on it and she just expressed her concern because the paps and press hasn’t been nice to them. But there’s no harm in it and it shows that she is a strong mother that care about her family and business. JJ, we just have to pray that it’s not bad news. I really don’t think it is and they are all fine but I do think something is coming and maybe soon or later. We really don’t need any bad news during such a great time of the year. Christmas is about joy, celebration and being around the ones you love not a breakup with a love one.
December 6th, 2008 21:42
Kat, I’m with you on that. We all have to keep our fingers crossed and hope for the better. Make it our Christmas wish and everything. I believe they deserve to be happy together.
December 6th, 2008 23:27
I agree with jj.
No good can come from her talking.
December 7th, 2008 00:04
Well let’s hope so Rman. Just a question but would these journalists have to identify themselves when talking to Carole or Pippa? I’m not trying to give them an out, but to be honest if Katie nicolll or the Mandrake fellow sat next to me on a train or was in the same restaurant as me I wouldn’t have a clue??
Does anyone know??
December 7th, 2008 01:37
Hello,
I am surprised to read that CM had made any comments to the press that contained reference to KM.
For several weeks now I have been lead to believe that at the request of a ’senior’ Royal’s concern following the April 2007 news fiasco and the reported getting back together within days , that there would be several months delay before any comments on the present state of PW/KM relationship were released to the press .
However having read the link , although commenting on her daughter being one of her three children, there did not appear to be a reference to the couple as such.
I am just surprised again that CM made any comment at all under the circumstances.
Has Mandraker ever made similar claims to ‘inside’ interviews ? I seem to think he was
criticised several months ago for some inappropriate reporting, claiming a conversation with someone close to the Middleton’s.
Ideas anyone ?
December 7th, 2008 01:43
Rman,
With respect, I think your comment of PW not knowing how to propose is a little naive.
I am not an expert, not ever having been close to having to consier it, but common sense tells me that after 5+ years where there’s a will , there’s a way.
If you think there is a pun intented, you may well be right.
No offense intended, Rman.
December 7th, 2008 02:00
I don’t know Ked. I have said this before but when you have a dry royal news spell like this, you don’t know what to believe. To be honest with you Ked, I have a gut feeling that everything is alright with William & Kate but when they are not seen in awhile we all start to get worried. Now why that happens? I think we always fear that it will all just end and none of us want that. There is no speculation going on and everything seem to be peaceful. If the Mandrake story is true then I think Mrs. Middleton just don’t like the rumors that is spread about her family and she reached a breaking point. But the Mandrake story could be just gossip or something made up. So I really don’t want to take that too seriously. Instead of focusing on if that could hurt the royal relationship I think all of us royal fans need to understand that no one should just sit and watch your family’s reputation go down in flames. If Carole spoke out to protect her family, then she did what she had to do. That’s why I said that she may have spoken to William & Kate and they agreed on it. I don’t think she would harm her daughters relationship by saying something. She didn’t say anything about the couple so there’s no harm done. I think William understands that his potential mother-in-law is fed up with the media. After all he has addressed some things to the media and have tried to set the record straight in the past. So the royal family would not be upset about that at all, IF it’s true what Mandrake said.
December 7th, 2008 02:06
Ked I was trying to be alittle funny with it. But I think that is the most nervous thing. They have come so far with this, I don’t think he will mess it up.
December 7th, 2008 02:41
Ked,
I thought that that william and Kate were on shaky ground. It had been reported that they met at Balmoral and had talked things through. She then went with him to the party at Highgrove. It sounded from reports that she spent the weekend with the family and William. Did that not happen? It breaks my heart to think of them not together. I hope that they are still together or working towards that way. If they are still communicating then they have have a good chance at working things through. I will still pull for them.They seem to be soul mates and in love.
December 7th, 2008 02:53
Telegraph-The glamorous businesswoman has, however, now broken her silence to voice her concerns about the impact that public scrutiny is having on her life. ===
I’m sorry but this does not sound like she’s thinking how wonderful it will be for Kate to enter the Royal Family. I think we will hear more about what is going on soon.
The Royals might be taking note.
December 7th, 2008 04:48
I think it is reasonable to say that we still don’t know what is going on inside. I still don’t see anything that leads me to feel they have broken up.
Did anyone catch the show on US cable yesterday on the WE network, Prince William, sexy and single? I had seen it before but it still was a good watch. I especially paid close attention to the part where members of the press discuss the blackout imposed during William’s St Andrew’s years and how they felt frustrated by what they could or could not write about him. It sounded so similar to what is going on now. The question is *why*? Are they protecting William and Kate while they work through a rough patch or are they protecting a future royal bride? We just don’t know and both scenarios are possible.
December 7th, 2008 04:54
Who is to say that Carole knew whom she was talking to when she told Mandrake that? I for one don’t know what the man looks like, why should Carole? She may just have made polite conversation at the races last week and either accidentily ran into Mandrake or her conversation with someone else was overheard. The comments sound like “side-remarks” to me you may throw in in conversation. Like someone asks what does it feel like to be gossiped about so much and she just said it makes me feel vulnerable etc… I doubt it was a deliberate move on Carole’s part to speak to the press since this didn’t sound like a prepared statement to me. I agree if she had wanted to set the record straight – either about a break up or about the bad press in general – she would have been much more up front.In fact the statements don’t really say anything except that she feels a little overwhelmed by it all and is worried for her family and business – is that really news? I wouldn’t have expected her to feel any other way.
December 7th, 2008 05:18
Your right,Trixie. Great points.
December 7th, 2008 05:41
Sounds like early damage control.
I think they’ve always talked.
It’s too late for excuses.
December 7th, 2008 08:04
If Carole was giving Mandrake an “exclusive” then what did it accomplish? It sound like sound bites taken from a conversation as others have mentioned. I would think that if she wanted to clear her chest, she would have had a print up similiar to the VF piece on KM. Just by what Mandrake has printed, I think it makes her seem resentful of KM/PW relationship putting the Midds in the spotlight. This does not bode well if your daughter is about to marry a prince. I am not sure how the RF will respond to the article as I would have thought that arrangements/contract would be made so that in the case of a breakup, the Midds can’t discuss their relationship publicly.
December 7th, 2008 11:09
Clive Goodman in the Daily Star writes that William asked HM for permission to spend Christmas with Kate in a cottage in Sandringham estate and that HM is “perfectly happy” with the arrangement. The article is not online but online in the written paper today…
December 7th, 2008 11:25
The things she spoke about are not the normal things a person would see if they are trying to be or know that they should be careful (because she should know that).
I refuse to believe that she could not get suspicious when a man comes up to and whilst chatting suddenly asks questions about her daughter. I cannot see how those comments could naturally fit into a conversation.
Let’s try not to pretend it is anything else, she did talk to someone about it (meaning she was not being discreet, after the content of what was said is not someone trying to be discreet or particularly careful). Even if she did not know it was the press she should have had the common sense to: a) not say anything and just brush over it i.e. oh it’s tough sometimes but we cope or b) start to wonder why this man is asking her questions which are usually asked in an interview.
Whether or not you think it is okay is a different matter but I do not think we should be making excuses and wearing rose tinted glasses.
Thanks trixie for the heads up about the Goodman article. I always take those articles with a pinch of salt for 2 reasons. 1) We get the same stuff every year and 2) How on earth would he know that?
December 7th, 2008 11:25
Ha!
December 7th, 2008 11:38
“I refuse to believe that she could not get suspicious when a man comes up to and whilst chatting suddenly asks questions about her daughter. I cannot see how those comments could naturally fit into a conversation.”
Which comments are you referring to? Carole said absolutely nothing about Kate or her and Will or anything “indiscreet” by any standards.
Here are her quotes again:
“I’m concerned about my business; that’s my focus,” she said. “I don’t want the attention to detract from that. I’m also worried for my family: I have three children – not just Catherine.”
“James is very good with it all,” says his mother. “He writes articles and has business projects which he wants to talk about, but then it’s difficult when everything else is going on around him and people don’t just want to know about his projects.”
To me both these quotes sounds like answers to the question How do you cope with the press attention about Kate? And possibly: How is James’ business coming along? VERY common conversation topics in a chitchat with Carole Middleton I would assume and again we do not know whether she actually told this exclusively to Mandrake as he says or whether she taked to someone else and was overheard.
I agree with you about the Clive Goodman story, B. It sounds like the usual Christmas gossip. I am rather sure we’ll hear about the Middleton family including Kate spending Christmas in Barbados soon enough.
December 7th, 2008 11:49
You are right Trixie, she did not say anything about W&K, which is what I pointed out long ago. So we need to calm down and realize that Carole is not stupid, she would not have mentioned anything about the couple. So there is no harm done. I do believe that all is well but the media really want a royal story and to stir things up alittle. It’s too silent at the moment.
December 7th, 2008 11:58
Hello,
Is it just my imagination or has the ‘Heroes Charity’ been hijacked by PC ?
Initially I thought that this Charity was initially set up and patronaged by PH and joined early in its life by PW.
They seemed to be present at all the charitable events in its early days but suddenly both PW ad PH have vanished from that particular scene and who seems to have stepped in ? Why their father . I wonder why ?
PW and PH used to do the hospital vists and meet up with the injured service people and their families but suddenly this “duty” has been taken over by PC.
Perhaps he’s told his boys to concentrate on their careers in their helicopters for next few years and keep out of the way to let him bask in the glory they set up.
Perhaps I’m wrong.
December 7th, 2008 12:06
Has anyone else noticed how much Pippa M. resembles Wallis Simpson?
December 7th, 2008 12:18
I don’t know Ked, the world wants to see the young royals doing their duties these days. If that is true, I think it would be terrible for Charles do that to his sons. That is something him and Diana would bump heads on.
BTW the William & Kate Christmas story is on The Royalist. Ked I believe William & Kate is spending their time together right now because don’t forget he’s going into the service in Jan, it’s going to be hard for them but just like before their love will see them through it. This couple is stronger than we think. They made it this far, through all the attention and speculations. They are hold on to each other no matter what. And people wonder why Carole is speaking out? They even call her family pushy on the royals. It’s a crazy thing and we don’t how it’s like until we are in that kind of situation like The Middletons are. I think it’s was alittle easier for The Spencers because they have known the royal family for years and their families are linked. The Middletons are coming into this when the media world is hot and heavy and everything you do and say is analyzed to death. Tom Parker Bowles was once asked in a special program on how he and his family got through those bad years and he simply said we stuck together as a family and that’s what The Middletons are doing.
December 7th, 2008 12:27
No royal or charity engagement published (POW site) for William – remaining 2008.
Great observation Ked.
December 7th, 2008 12:45
I am again reposting the same here as I have already done on the forums…
I subscribe to the point of view that no one is obligated to make any sort of public statement… but I thought I could add, as it might be useful to keep in mind, that so long as the nature of the former acquaintanceship of Prince William and Miss Middleton remains uncertain, many individuals will continue to benefit from this public uncertainty.
However this term (of uncertainty) has nearly expired…
I suppose I’m only mentioning this now out of the frustration that I and others feel and thought I’d take my chances by posting it.
-Karagiosis
December 7th, 2008 12:47
“Phoebe
December 7th, 2008 12:06
Has anyone else noticed how much Pippa M. resembles Wallis Simpson?”
Yes Phoebe, I noticed that a few years ago too. She has always reminded me her.
I also agree with B, there is no excuse for Carole talking to the press. There is no way Carole did not know who she was talking to, some keep trying to make excuses for the Middleton’s. She talked because she wanted to. It looks bad that she talked at all.
December 7th, 2008 12:49
Yeah, I think William is just taking a break. Harry got a couple of engagements coming up. Harry must be excited to present the Woman’s Own Children of Courage Awards, it was a duty that was was carried out by his mother every year.
December 7th, 2008 12:56
Karagiosis are you saying the former aquaintance is a romantic one for either William or Kate, someone either one has known for a long while, or are you saying it is someone talking behind the scenes? I’m a bit confused by your wording?
December 7th, 2008 13:02
Well joanne, we don’t know what it’s like to be in that kind of situation so we can’t dump on her for it. I guess some just want her to sit and watch the media trash her family for no reason at all? that’s nuts. A mother will do what she has to do to protect her family and show some concern. Please if some call my family pushy and social climbers I would do the same thing. It’s just getting out of hand and Carole Middleton has spoken, that’s it. But I have to realize too that many just don’t like The Middletons. I don’t even know them but you have to look at what they are going through. Sure the press is not printing anything on Kate but now they are dancing on Pippa and James’s tonsils. They are branding her a girl who would do anything to be in the spotlight and many think James is guy or something. It’s just bad Joanne. But she did not mention anything about William & Kate, she did nothing wrong but of course many will just over look that and trash them even more. It’s like they can’t win no matter what.
December 7th, 2008 13:02
Rman, I saw the upcoming engagement for Harry on December 10, too. Has anyone heard about William lately? The last news I remember was that he left for some training in the Caribbean November 17 but was only supposed to stay for 10 days. So he should have been back for 2 weeks now – yet there has been nothing on him not even the official “PR report” about his latest military stint.
December 7th, 2008 13:02
Hey, if you’re Karagiosis can I be Halitosis?
True there has been much public uncertainty since the W&K relationship started but I don’t see that changing any time soon, if ever. Even if there is a wedding, it will only be a matter of time before the first Arabella/Jecca/Attractive Blonde Secretary type of rumours start. Why? Because these are royals and they feel entitled to living and doing however and whatever they please.
William has already shown that he doesn’t give a damn about public opinion by his public embrace of Camilla, the woman who treated his dear mother so shabbily, by his little helicopter training sessions “Ooops! You mean I’m not allowed to fly the Chinook to a stag party as part of my training?!” and in his inability to publicy protect his GF, so I don’t see why he should start caring about complying with conventional rules or behaviors even after he marries Kate or whoever he ends up with.
Good marriage to Michael Middleton or not, Ma Midds built a successful buiness from scratch — a business that was successful long before PW ever entered the picture.
That is not easy to do, and so I will always be happy to give her kudos for that.
It’s a shame Ma Midds is forced to defend her own family — I would have thought by now she would have plenty of friends in high places being willing to do that on her behalf.
Does Kate really want to marry into a family of weak charactered men like PC and PW? I think she should think twice. JMO.
December 7th, 2008 13:13
I applaud Carole Middleton’s work ethic also, if only her daughter had half of it, she would perhaps not have been crucified and called work-shy.
So now some are already beginning to make William out to be the bad guy, because Carole has talked? Sorry I don’t see him as the bad guy here at all.
The Monarchy’ protects the Monarchy I see nothing wrong with that. Kate went very public as Kate Middleton, her mother was right there every step of the way on vacations with Pr. William, at Passing out Parades, perhaps what she is finding outis , she can’t have the press on her terms.
I have no sympathy at all for Carole or Kate concerning the press, they courted it. I do on the otherhand respect the mother’s hard work at building her business.
December 7th, 2008 13:22
Joanne, I do agree they made some major mistakes in terms of opening up the floodgates by attending such obviously public events.
In retrospect, Kate could have probably made the better argument in favor of privacy if she’d avoided public events like Sandhurst and going to well-known pap hangouts like Boujis with her beau by her side.
I think this was probably pointed out to her, and that is why she is hunkering down now.
It might also be wise for Clarence House to offer guidance to long-term girlfriends and theirfamilies who are not used to coping with the press — it appears they have not, or at least the advice was not heeded.
However, I still think PC and PW tend to be rather self-indulgent when it comes to their personal lives. They do what they want and everyone else, be it their wives or obviously suffering girlfriends, be damned.
December 7th, 2008 13:27
Why only PW and PC? Is any of the royals different?
December 7th, 2008 13:30
Joanne,
“Former acquaintanceship” as in former relationship between Prince William and Miss Middleton. I hope that’s clearer.
-Karagiosis
December 7th, 2008 13:40
I honestly don’t see Kate as a victim. This is a woman who gladly lived with (bedded) the Prince the future King of England at University with the world knowing, watching. Her mother rented a Cottage on an Estate in Ireland with a bedroom just for William and Kate with a four poster bed for William and Kate to spend a holiday in(which he never showed up for) She took almost every opportunity to flaunt her association with the future King. I just feel no sympathy for her.
I hope this is over.
December 7th, 2008 13:41
Okay, thanks for the explanation karagiosis.
December 7th, 2008 13:42
I don’t know Alsgal, why shouldn’t they go to those places?? Are they supposed to spend their entire lives doing exactly what Kate is doing now? Hiding??
You can’t have a proper relationship if you hide all of the time. You have to have a REALLY thick skin & deal with everything that comes your way otherwise you are not going to be up to the final job. CH should definitely give advise to long term girlfriends and their families. It avoids these problems coming up in the first place. After all CH has been there for decades they know the rules why can’t they help??? I just don’t understand the stiff upper lip sometimes & I’m British….
Joanne I’ve said many times, if Kate and William do split he is PROBABLY going to end up marrying some aro, what do you think she would have done for a living?? The answer is probably nothing so give the girl a break. Some people choose to be ladies of leisure and IMO as long as they are not claiming money off of the state then they should be able to do whatever they like. It is their lives & to be honest I wish I had her parents money…
December 7th, 2008 13:53
A short note to all those with their minds in the gutter: I myself have lived on a number of occasions in co-ed housing with men and no sex was involved. There is absolutely no evidence that KM “bedded” PW wile they were sharing living quarters at school. Your efforts to cast KM as the royal whore without any evidence reflects more on yourselves than on her.
December 7th, 2008 13:56
Trixie,
You use the singulat “IS”, surely you should have said “ARE” and included “EVER”.
Meaning obviously that they have always been so, and will continue to be so.
However , is PH slightly different ? He seems a little more down to earth and does have a compassionate side to his nature.
December 7th, 2008 13:58
So karagiosis,
what happens if you’re wrong, and there is no breakup at all?
Will you come back and make a statement and explain why you were wrong, or will you just remain silent and try to get away with it?
I think it’s an excellent question, but I wonder if you will answer it?
December 7th, 2008 13:59
Phoebe, I would be rather surprised if Kate didn’t “bed” William in all those years. I very much hope she got at least that out of the relationship.
However a 5 year stable relationship hardly makes a floozy…
December 7th, 2008 14:01
Joanne,
You have just opened up a can of worms.
I hope your past is as pure as you intimate KM wasn’t because we’ll find you out eventually.
December 7th, 2008 14:02
I have never bought the dream of Kate being suitable for Princess. I have always felt it would be a disaster, once the reality of what being a full working Royal endures was realised.
William can choose Princess or Pauper, but it must be someone who can hack it and all “it “encompasses.
I have never felt he should marry his first girlfriend, he has been reported to tell friends he is not ready for marriage, many times in the press. This is a factured relationship,which has been trying to make it back from a big break up since last year. I see nothing in Kate except a press’s Cinderellla dream and a girl who was readily available for a Prince with libido going from boyhood to manhood. She seems nice enough , but is she suitable to stand on the same Throne as Pr. William, no, her actions have brought her to the point of hiding. Queen’s have to be leaders of whole Nations.
December 7th, 2008 14:02
“However , is PH slightly different ? He seems a little more down to earth and does have a compassionate side to his nature.”
How is Harry more down to earth? How does he have a compassionate nature any other family member lacks? Because he cuddles African orphans once a year? He has more charisma that’s for sure and a happy-go-lucky aura about him – but he’s just as much a spoilt rich kid as his brother.
December 7th, 2008 14:03
Joanne , I hope the same evil and malice you show towards Kate and Family will one day visit you.
December 7th, 2008 14:04
No desire to get personal with posters.
Nice discussion. Looking forward to more news.
December 7th, 2008 14:24
Oh hello mapleleaf,
I’m not wrong. It happened. And the only reason I chose to post about it now (as I’ve mentioned to you) is that it will become apparent in this month.
I think I might as well quote my response to someone on your forum; it was a follow up to my previous post – the same post which I just wrote here. I think it would be apropos to the ongoing conversations here and on your forum:
I’ve no personal contact with the Middleton family. But in relation to my previous post I can add that there is a great deal of pressure felt by all those that still stand to benefit while the separation is generally unknown. Once the separation becomes public knowledge the attention on all the individuals concerned will change in tone drastically. As we know the press and their public are very fickle and it’s not difficult to foresee the negative information that will be fed to them and consequently trickle out to the masses, both to preserve reputations as well as keep them in the ‘collective eye’…. basically just to stay visible.
- Karagiosis
December 7th, 2008 14:36
Okay guys lets calm down. We all know that W&K have a intimate relationship but that is not our business at all. But after reading some comments is so obvious that many just don’t like the idea of the two together and I understand that. W&K always beat the odds and just when many bloggers begin to put that relationship to history, W&K shocks them and come together as one. There is no evidence that there is a breakup in the works and there is no speculation going on. These two are getting on with their lives and carring out their relationship in private for the time being. It’s all about respecting William & Kate relationship and privacy. It’s not a big deal if Carole expressed her concern for her family and business. The attention do get to them and they DON’T court the media. They are trying to make the best of it while some continue to trash them. We have to face that William did not fall in live with a titled woman but a woman he met in college. That’s how it works sometime. My parents met in college too. I have said this all along that William is a smart guy and he would not purposely hurt Kate and her family. He really seem to like her family and that should be respected. The royal family acknowledged her this year like never before and the two is happy. And I think this bears a repeating, her mother did not mention anything about the couple at all. The press want to get something out of them but they aren’t saying anything.
December 7th, 2008 14:40
Okay karagiosis, we shall see.
December 7th, 2008 14:47
A sighting will put all this to rest beacuse now it’s getting tierd. And we can be getting all worked up for nothing.
December 7th, 2008 15:25
Joanne, I think you were talking about Jordanstone House in Blair Perthsire (Scotland) that the Clan Middleton rented for Christmas – New Year’s Eve Week week 2006 into 2007?
Supposedly that’s when PW didn’t show up as planned, and Carole had a come-to-Jesus talk with Kate saying she needed to have PW state his intentions. Which supposedly let to the ultimatum and their April 2007 breakup.
Who knows if that is true — it sounds plausible but then so do a lot of other things with this couple.
I think PW loves KM but is not ready to get married yet. Kate is. End of story.
December 7th, 2008 15:44
ked,I have a question and I am being serious and would appreciate an honest answer. Are you also using the screename karagiosis ?
December 7th, 2008 15:58
I think PW & KM have gone their separate ways & this time they are waiting to make it known to us. Time for KM to get her emotions in check & time for PW to save face. With Christmas coming, skiing trips & vacations as well, it will become known in a time that is busy for everyone & PW & KM are hoping they will not get the rush of media hounding them as it is a private relationship involving only them. I believe they will remain friends. PW was very shy in college. He never went to class the day after anything broke in the newspapers about his Mother. So you see, he was crippled by the media then & continues today.
December 7th, 2008 16:44
Yes alsgal that was the Christmas rental for the Middleton’s. I agree with what you have said.
I remember that when Carole understood finally that Pr. William wasn’t showing up, she had serious talk with Kate. It was in one of the press break up stories about Carole Middleton.
I have never believed that she had a chance at all as far as William and marriage is concerned. I think he loves her and they grew together in ways, through University, but it is a boyhood into manhood love of sorts, he is still maturing, growing in other directions.
December 7th, 2008 17:00
I have always liked the idea of a gentlemen’s club. I wish I could join one or establish my own.
December 7th, 2008 17:12
The Royalist website is saying that the Daily Star Weekend( I take it that this is a very tabloid magazine) says that Willim and Kate will spend Christmas at a remote hunting lodge at Sangriham (I think that is how you spell it).Karagiosis, to know that they have seperated before, could they not be working through this rough time? When first you posted you were very clear that this would all come out soon. What if the opposite happens? Instead of ending the relationship it could become strong and that they are together. After thinking about it, Carole M. is doing what my mother and other mothers do. How many of us remember getting a special outfit for a dance or for the prom or other big occasion? There were times for getting ones hair done or special shoes. I know that my mother and dad paid for them. Maybe, Mrs. Middleton wanted to help her daughter to be happy. No one know what goes on behind closed doors. I do firmly believe that love will find a way and that everything does work out for the best. I will pull for them while taking a wait and see approach to their relationship.
December 7th, 2008 17:22
Joanne, it’s hard to say what this couple will do and we just have to wait and see. I don’t believe they have gone there seperate ways. You can never predict what William & Kate will do. I have no doubt in my mind that these two are madly in love with each other but they are taking their time with their courtship and that tells you that they are in no rush. I feel bad for Kate though because she has been branded as a young woman who wants the crown and wants all the fame and status that comes with a marriage from him. And all she is doing is being a caring, loving and supportive girlfriend to a prince. Lets face the facts, Kate has not been treated fairly by the media. They have grown with each other and that is one of the things that has carried them this far. We shall wait and see what they will do. We have no idea what they are doing at this time but if he’s going away in training for awhile my guess is they want to spend lots of time together before he go’s. You can see how much they missed each other when he was the Caribbean over the summer. They didn’t waste anytime to get back to each other. Everybody thought Kate was going to the Cartier Polo event but that girl was in the Caribbean.
December 7th, 2008 17:24
Kat, I’m with you.
December 7th, 2008 17:40
ked,
I wanted to set the record straight regarding the Help for Heroes charity. Help for Heroes was started by members of the military, and sponsored/support by The Sun newspaper, along with a few other companies.
Prince WILLIAM was the first royal to wear a Help for Heroes bracelet, not Prince Harry.
Harry learned about the charity from William, and they both immediately threw their support behind it. Both William and Harry first visited the rehabilitation hospital in October of 2007, they went together.
They visited the rehab hospital again in May of 2008, again together. By that time they had created a joint project (the City Salute) to give further support for the Help for Heroes charity, and also some of the proceeds from the City Salute went towards supplementing what the injured soldiers received from their government.
December 7th, 2008 17:46
Karagiosis, the tricksy one. I will wait and see if you are correct. If you are, I will acknowledge it. If you are not, I expect a similar acknowledgement.
I, for one, don’t yet believe that William and Kate have broken up. If I’m wrong, it will be proven at some point.
I’m not going to say it isn’t possible that they’ve broken up, but I don’t think it’s likely. I’m willing to wait and see.
If William and Kate appear anywhere together, or there are any reports that they are somewhere together, that will throw doubt on what has been said about them being broken up.
So let the wait begin. I wonder who will be proven correct?
December 7th, 2008 18:14
Yes Mapleleaf, who will be proven right? lol. There is no media speculation. Everyone is waiting. The media probably knows everything is alright and there is no need for speculation.
December 7th, 2008 18:15
And by thw way, they still say that Kate is his girlfriend and they even said Consort.
December 7th, 2008 18:17
mapleleaf,
I acknowledge what you say and accept it. My point was that PW and PH initially became involved as they knew guys and gals they trained with who were killed or injured.
They became involved and did a tremendous amount of work, involved their friends and in general put their names out there and made the populace aware of the charity. Their name and acceptance of the charity went a long way to the success which I saw from another side.
My point is that having launched successful events and shown how committed they were they are suddenly out of the picture and the PoW has seemingly hijacked the high ground and he is making all the moves and visits and to all intents reflecting in the glory.
Following the recent Poll when a majority of those approached showed that they would prefer PW to succeed his grandmother as King many things have changed and many lives have been thrown into confusion.
I don’t know if they are linked but if someone were to do a CPA then perhaps other questions and actions may become clearer.
December 7th, 2008 18:43
Sorry, Karagiosis. What you say makes absolutely no sense. But, perhaps that’s your intention?
December 7th, 2008 18:46
Perhaps,indeed,Phoebe. It’s like a cat toying with a mouse,enjoying the game and loving the attention. Pretty sad actually. He/She has the folks at the IF hooked too.
December 7th, 2008 19:22
My only addition is that if he/she is close
enough to know all of this- either William or Kate had to give permission to post this. Since it was stated that it was at a risk, I believe that permission was not given. Therefore the
info is suspect or at any rate almost a betrayal of a confidence.
December 7th, 2008 19:40
I don’t think they’ve broken up — they’re too ONFF to do that.
PW didn’t want to be stuck cutting ribbons just yet so he picked an active role in the military which will buy him some time, and which will probably be more helpful than opening community centers.
Kate had probably delayed/not started her career in earnest hoping he would propose. She’s probably a bit disappointed, as she seems the domestic type and family orientated.
I’d say she’s willing to wait, and PW is willing to have Kate wait for him.
He’s gone a lot, and only he knows what he’s up to. Either there is a tremendous amount of trust in that relationship or Kate is almost Princess Alexandra-like in the tolerance and understanding department.
Good luck to them both.
December 7th, 2008 20:24
I agree alsgal, I think he got Kate at his side through it all and she gives him that support that he needs. Although he has his family behind him too, there’s nothing like having that special one with you. She has been there with him through the other stuff so she will be there for this. You know alsgal you are right she does seem to be really family orientated. Just seeing her support him through this stuff, lets you know how helpful she will be as Princess William of Wales. I often wonder what title she will get if they take that next step?
December 7th, 2008 20:31
If they don’t appear there broken, if they appear everything is cool. Now everyone is: or they break up or they marry. It can’t be that they want to remain in the bfgf mode until they decide on their own schedule ? If they want to or not want to.
December 7th, 2008 20:36
I mean the rest of the couples in the world who have a longish relationship are not daily scrutinized. William and Kate are in the out of the limelight and I really think its going to remain like this for a longish time. Why does SHE have to endure the scrutiny if a picture of bfgf appear ? while he is gone to the RAF. They perfectly may see each other in private.
I wonder when Zara will make it or break it, she has to decide, she will be the laughing stolk if not marrying soonish. You get me ?
Meanwhile Mrs. Middleton has to pray and be brave for her entire family who is constantly watched by the press for any simple event, which turns into a smear.
December 7th, 2008 20:43
I will pray for Kate, not William – he has an entire nation to watch over him. Kate I hope that William the human being – the guy – is worth all the experiences (bad/good) that you and your family have lived through.
If not deep in your heart, move on and look for happiness. There is always a window open to hapinness – I know that you are a strong person – no one would have endured what you have lived.
If everything is cool and this is a plan, I will still and always pray for you, may God help you out in your path and give you wisdom to do the right things. I think destiny has put you into Williams path.
December 7th, 2008 20:48
Karagiosis said things would start showing up or coming to light in two weeks and already we have Carole Middleton doing something she has never done before, giving a interview to the Telegraph where she is quote and written up in the headline as the source.
This is not how one who is about to enter the Royal Family behaves, especially not someone who has everything to lose by talking.
I thinkthere is real trouble to the point of a break and we will get more stories confirming it next week or so.
December 7th, 2008 21:00
“But in relation to my previous post I can add that there is a great deal of pressure felt by all those that still stand to benefit while the separation is generally unknown. Once the separation becomes public knowledge the attention on all the individuals concerned will change in tone drastically. As we know the press and their public are very fickle and it’s not difficult to foresee the negative information that will be fed to them and consequently trickle out to the masses, both to preserve reputations as well as keep them in the ‘collective eye’…. basically just to stay visible.”
I defy anyone to make sense of that statement.
December 7th, 2008 21:04
I’ll translate it in ddish
December 7th, 2008 21:25
Could someone tell me the reliabilty of 2 foreign magazines- Figaro Magazine or
Familiasrealas.com One was Spanish and one was French. They had references to Charles’s 60th birthday party. Just curious how the European media is covering all of this. Is there more or less interest as in America.
December 7th, 2008 21:28
Yes destiny put her in his path. Many think Charles should have married Camilla long ago but destiny put Diana in Charles’s path even though the marriage didn’t work. Who new William would go to college, find her and have a relationship last this long? It’s a beautiful thing. I think he’s sure that she’s the one and that’s one of the reasons why they took things to new heights this year. It’s just hard for her family in this crazy media age but it’s a fact that her family is there supporting her through this and they are making the best of it. Carole is right she didn’t ask for this but it just happened. Destiny is something. But The Middletons better prepare themseleves because if we get big news, there family history will be talked about on the BBC, ABC, CNN whatever you name it. Then royal historians will try to look for any relation between them. ITV will release their documentary, I mean it will a big thing.
December 7th, 2008 21:33
There is a interest here in America but not really big beacuse the Hollywood celebs provide America with enough excitement. If big news come, then you better believe it will be the talk of the town here. I think we are waiting for a visit from William & Harry. The Vanity Fair artical gave many Americans a taste of who Kate Middleton is.
December 7th, 2008 21:51
I was just looking at this old artical from March in The People UK, do you think it’s possible that Kate is currently being groomed? Doing important things behind the scenes.
http://tinyurl.com/2aeuh6
December 7th, 2008 22:35
There is so much conflicting information our in the media. It is hard to know what is true and what is not true. For example one week the New Idea has William going to Australia. This week the cover say that they are going to share their wedding joy. I do believe that there is a plan in place for them. I believe that William would not have shared so much with Kate only to now want to break up with her. I can’t see the comments about how they acted at the September wedding only to have them a week later to be in serious trouble. In time our questions will be answered. In the end, I think that the People article could very well be correct.
December 7th, 2008 22:36
I don’t know Rman, this whole thing is very confusing and I am still reeling from Carole Middleton’s article. But on the upside there is less than 2 weeks till xmas/boxing day so it will either be on or we continue to wait and wait and wait…
December 7th, 2008 22:43
Rman,
I am thinking the very same thing, Kate may be in the process of being groomed for her new role of Princess. I’ve thought that since October. The process may take up to a year IMO.
December 7th, 2008 22:53
I think there’s a plan in place too and the media has put an “When not if” thing out there this year. We just have to do what we have always done is wait.
December 7th, 2008 23:21
I can’t speak for you, but I am sick of waiting!
December 8th, 2008 02:38
I know but there’s nothing we can do but wait.
December 8th, 2008 04:38
It’s not up to any of us whether or not William and Kate get engaged or even married. I suggest everyone calm down, go about your lives and stop trying to live thru people you don’t even know. I don’t think they’ll get engaged this year or even early next year and as for marriage – well either that’s quite aways off or won’t happen. Whatever they decide, I wish them all well.
People are getting silly about this whole Wills and Kate thing anyway.
December 8th, 2008 04:40
wait for PW to announce his engagement to KM. but for now all we need is to wait. and dont speculate.
December 8th, 2008 04:57
Rman, throughout the year we have seen many indications that the People article you linked is accurate. My only question is if the current economic situation has caused the BRF to hold off a bit or to slim down the wedding so as to not appear too over the top with it. I personally think a royal wedding would do wonders for the economy but the family and their advisers may worry about perception. I keep asking myself why the press blackout? And where is Kate? I keep coming back to the same conclusion and it is not Kate at home mending her broken heart.
December 8th, 2008 09:33
Lisa, I’ve often wondered the same thing as well — if the economic slowdown caused the BRF to put the breaks on this — just for a year or two. While there is no doubt the sheer number of W&C lawnchairs that will be sold to commemorate the wedding will skyrocket, thus stimulating the economy, the thinking might also be that it would be unwise to have anything that is perceived as grand or lavish in these uncertain times. This theory would also be in keeping with the entire BRF scaling back. At least except for PC and Fawcett, who don’t appear to have gotten the memo.
Although it wouldn’t surprise me to hear that Kate was being groomed for the role (special attention to her hair, nails and so forth)the People.co.uk article doesn’t ring true to me because why wouldn’t William just go ahead and propose — who on Earth would he say in March, I plan to propose to you at Christmas? Why not just go ahead and do it?
December 8th, 2008 10:15
Bluefire, yeah speculation is what causes this confusion. Maybe it’s for the best to hold it off until the crisis end. The governments are saying that things are going to get worse before it gets better so maybe the royals are being advised to not go there just yet. People did mention that The State Opening of Parliament was a bit too much but I don’t agree. There weren’t many people out to see the procession this year but I think The Queen did the right thing by showing the nation that we must move forward and keep a positive out look on things. But even if they hold off a wedding, it still don’t stop a engagement. That could give her a chance to adjust to things better. But there was a royal wedding the other day, Archduchess Marie-Christine wed Count Rodolphe of Limburg-Stirum on Sat.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2008/12/08/rodolphe-marie-wed/
December 8th, 2008 13:57
Just to note, the People article was written quite early in the year- as in, before PW’s decision to extend training, and such. I can’t really see it’s relevance now.
And with all the engagement comments, does it matter when they announce it? That’s their prerogative, and I’m sure 90% of the posters here have more important things to do in the meantime- ie. life.