Kate devasted as RAF orders Prince William to shave

Shave you Beardy FellowBritain’s Prince William has reportedly been ordered to shave off his new shaggy beard by RAF bosses who think the facial hair is unsuitable for his upcoming role as a search and rescue helicopter pilot.

The 26-year-old royal – who debuted his new look on a pheasant shoot with girlfriend Kate Middleton and 24-year-old brother Prince Harry at the family’s Norfolk estate Sandringham on Saturday – is said to be under orders from senior members of the Royal Air Force to change his look before he starts training next month.

However, while the RAF are not taken with William’s new look, it seems Kate has grown fond of her beau’s beard.

An onlooker said: “It was a real shock to see William with a beard. It looked as if he had not shaved for a couple of weeks at least. Whether Kate approves is another matter entirely. But she was laughing and joking during the shoot so maybe she does like it.”

It has also been claimed that William originally grew the beard as a disguise when he worked undercover with the Special Boat Service in Barbados earlier this year in a bid to combat drug trafficking and piracy in the area.

A source said: “William has been back about a week and knew it was only a matter of time before someone spotted him. Everyone has been saying it makes him look like some of the old British kings. No one is sure if he’s going to keep it. But it’s here for now.” (via Monsters & Critics)

126 Responses to “Kate devasted as RAF orders Prince William to shave


  • maddie
    December 16th, 2008 12:48
    1

    They really need to learn a new word instead of devastated. Kate seems to be devastated about everything according to the press. LOL

  • Apryl
    December 16th, 2008 12:51
    2

    Maybe William should buy them a dictionary for Christmas.

  • B
    December 16th, 2008 13:06
    3

    LOL

    I don’t know how they are meant to know if she likes or not. She was probably just enjoying the shooting party

  • Rman
    December 16th, 2008 13:33
    4

    LOL, I know it’s funny. Then they said that Chelsy is giving up on Britain and going back home. They make it seem like these girls spend much of their time in a depression, lol.

  • lisa
    December 16th, 2008 15:48
    5

    Well for what it’s worth, he will be shaving the beard as no facial hair is allowed but I highly doubt Kate is devastated,lol..yet another slow news day :)

  • jj
    December 16th, 2008 16:38
    6

    I know seriously what a stupid thing to be depressed about. I have no idea where these news papers make this stuff up from.

  • Elizabeth
    December 16th, 2008 17:02
    7

    Yes I agree, why always devasted for Kate’s reactions to things. I think the thing makes him look scruffy. It would appear they do not have adaquate inside information or they’d pick better topics for discussion. I’d like to know just where Kate and William stand on the marriage issue? Are they engaged?

  • Alyssaa
    December 16th, 2008 18:40
    8

    Woow, *this* causes news?

  • Rman
    December 17th, 2008 17:41
    9

    Here is the documentary of The Queen’s Coronation-Behind Palace Doors. Just in case you guys didn’t get a chance to see the doc, it really give you some insight on what Prince Philip had to go through when he came into the royal family and how his relationship with The Queen Mother was. Boy, Philip has come along way. The video goes from 1-5.

    http://tinyurl.com/42nouc

  • Rman
    December 17th, 2008 23:12
    10

    Look who made the cover for Hello! Special Holiday Edition. I got it from RTF.

    http://tinyurl.com/3q5f4a

    They look great.

  • Trixie
    December 18th, 2008 00:53
    11

    Pictures of Chelsy going to her internship.
    http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/-Ds4ImRxoTT/Chelsy+Davy+Arriving+Internship

    She has THAT look on her face again…I find that really annoying. Would it hurt so much to smile briefly and just get on with it?

  • ked
    December 18th, 2008 07:04
    12

    Rman,

    Interesting links especially PP and he really is a character.

    He and HM recently visited an educational establishment with which I have a fond attachment.

    Venison was served for lunch and afterwards on a walk through the enclosed park land PP observed the large herd of deer freely roaming around.

    Turning to the Burser he asked if that is where lunch had come from and was informed that their meal had in fact come from an outside source and their animals were not for the table.

    He replied ” don’t tell my son that, he demands that all purchases be made local” an obvious skit at PC’s organic food requirements and his organic gardening techniques at Highgrove.

    In a similar vein PA recently remarked that as children Monopoly was not a game played in the royal household as it was ” too heated and a little too close to the mark” which was probably a reference to the PofW inheriting most of the Royal Establishments to his,his sister and brother’s detriment.

    Well at least we’ve got away from the usual discussion on “when” and “how long.”

  • Rman
    December 18th, 2008 10:04
    13

    Ked, yeah Prince Philip was treated badly when he came into the royal family that’s why he really connected with The late Princess of Wales. He knew how she felt during her marriage. I think this is why he is more welcoming to the newcomer’s.

  • jj
    December 18th, 2008 13:00
    14

    Apparently not Trixie :) . It reminds me of the guy that Pippa Middleton dates he always looks as if someone has pees in his cornflakes on a daily basis. Hahah I guess some people really don’t deal very well with being in the lime light!

  • Rman
    December 18th, 2008 13:12
    15

    There’s some royal bets going on. Here you can bet if that there will be a big announcement next year.

    http://tinyurl.com/4o9pan

    Are they really putting up money for this stuff?

  • ked
    December 18th, 2008 15:35
    16

    Rman,

    I wish I could get the “reversal” bets against an engagement in 2009 for both PW and PH.

    There must be a way of hedging it

  • Jade Falzon
    December 18th, 2008 16:26
    17

    Hi TRIXIE – Chelsy is very obviously annoyed at the photographers being around day in and day out. I realize this is something she has to live with as long as she remains with Prince Harry, but she’s only human and I too would be pretty fed up with this silliness everyday.

  • Rman
    December 18th, 2008 16:45
    18

    Lol, well there is hope. You can’t live without that. Ked I use to be amused when I read that there are bets going on but now that I look at it, I just see people wishing it would happen. It may not happen just yet but you got to keep on wishing.

  • ked
    December 18th, 2008 17:03
    19

    Rman.

    I’ve made a few phone calls to some friends who have been known to make a few sporting bets and they tell me that PaddyPower doesn’t make many mistakes with his odds and usually knows what’s going on,

    Perhaps they do know something that you suspect.

    Well done if your correct, you deserve to be invited to the wedding for the confidence you’ve shown to them against all and sundry.

    Myself, well I remain sceptical but at the same time will hold onto my cash.

    Now to make those in UK envious, I’ve going to the final on saturday. Whoops!

  • just visiting
    December 18th, 2008 17:07
    20

    I heard Kate is suppose to have sepnt a night at Buckingham Palace? what do you think of this, Ked?

  • ked
    December 18th, 2008 17:42
    21

    just visiting,

    I find that hard to accept without confirmation.

    There is really no need for her to stay there as PW’s quarters are at CH and reportedly she has (had?) access to CH as does CD who seems to use it more frequently.

    Stories come and go and if there aren’t any true stories then the paps make them up well knowing that they will neither be confirmed or denied.

  • Rman
    December 18th, 2008 18:20
    22

    I agree Ked. There is a lot of things that is made up about these couples and sometimes people often believe it. To be frank with everyone here, I think that’s why on other sites there is a major dislike for kate. Rumors spread and some believe it then the rumors stick. Half of the stories out there about her is made up or fabricated, then others just run away with it.

  • jj
    December 18th, 2008 18:34
    23

    Especially at this time of year when the whole family are at Sandringham anyway. You can just imagine the story Kate in BP while the Queen is away shinning her crown and poring over the crown jewels.
    & just visiting please take my last comment as a humorous statement not an attack of any sort at all. I’m just trying to see the funny side of some of the rumors which get started!

  • TeaTea
    December 18th, 2008 18:59
    24

    Ked,

    I believe this is the VERY FIRST TIME I have seen you wobble towards a Kate & William engagement!!! I feel very hopeful now! :) :):)

  • Rman
    December 18th, 2008 20:33
    25

    Well I’m looking forward to the great events next year and I just know we will get more excited, just like this year. As I sit back and think of this years events that really set things off, all I can do is smile. From the Wings ceremony and the Order of The Garter Service, to the royal weddings, I smiled. So that’s why I look forward to next year and the year after that.

  • lisa
    December 18th, 2008 22:27
    26

    I don’t get the whole betting thing. How would this fellow(?) know what was going on? I also don’t understand the numbers they have listed. Maybe someone can explain?

  • Jade Falzon
    December 19th, 2008 00:09
    27

    This is just my opinion – there will be no engagement between William and Kate until at least 2009. There will be no marriage until at least 2010. Anyone care to take bets? William is obviously not ready to marry and Kate, who may also not be ready, is committed to staying with William – for the time being. In the end – it’s not up to us, the media or even the BRF – it’s up to WILLIAM and KATE!

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

  • B
    December 19th, 2008 02:53
    28

    Sounds right to me Jade. Although I think that an engagement will not take place until early 2010 rather than 2009, just because the royals do not have long engagements.

  • lisa
    December 19th, 2008 04:46
    29

    William and Kate were at Whiskey Mist last night er this morning,lol…LOVE her dress. Will looked great too,very happy. Great to see them again. Of course the paps were upto their usual crap and the DM printed picture of Kate in which her bra is showing. Hopefully these pictures get pulled. It is in such poor taste. But I have to say she looks HOT. My only complaint..loose the UGGS in favor of a nice pr of pumps. :)

  • Trixie
    December 19th, 2008 05:12
    30

    Thanks for the info, lisa. Here’s a link to some pics http://tinyurl.com/52gucu
    Harry, Chelsy and her friends attended as well according to Zimbio. However there are only some blurry pics of Harry.
    http://tinyurl.com/3tmqvg

    I don’t think it was a wise move for Kate to be seen out and about partying again even less when Chelsy is seen looking like a professional business woman on her way to her internship every day. The only pics people ever see of Kate are those out and about either hunting, partying or shopping. That’s not good. While I understand that she’d rather be left alone at home, it wouldn’t hurt for her to be seen working in some capacity for PP every once in a while. At least the Daily Mail admits that it is a rare occasion now for her to go out. However I fear that article will get more and more snarky with each edit. It is rather polite for now but some of the pictures look unfortunate like the one of her bra showing. There’s another shot up her rather short dress, too…

  • lisa
    December 19th, 2008 05:29
    31

    Trixie,I think they should be allowed to go out and party once in awhile especially around the holidays. Not every night but once in awhile is fine.

  • Trixie
    December 19th, 2008 05:38
    32

    I agree. I don’t begudge them their fun but the tabloids will. The problem is that these are about the only times we see Kate now. I KNOW that she is working the rest of the time but people don’t SEE that and that causes damage to her image. Whenever she is pictured, she’s out and about looking like a party girl. I know that this was the only time for her out and about for several months but how many people who superficially scan the papers will know that? All they’ll remember is that the last pics of her were those hunting and before that those at the roller disco. I know it may sound harsh but she needs to stage some “business shots” of herself like Chelsy. Surely there are some meetings she could attend on behalf of Party Pieces that would make her appear like the working woman she is. It’s not so much that she parties too much (hardly), it’s more that she’s not seen doing anything else.

  • bluefire
    December 19th, 2008 06:27
    33

    Rman. is hello magazine available? The special edition.

  • gracie
    December 19th, 2008 07:52
    34

    I think it’s okay for them to go to clubs once in a while. I still don’t understand why KM continues to make the same mistakes over and over again as far as exiting and entering a car. If she would have kept her jacket buttoned, there would have been no accidents.

  • Me
    December 19th, 2008 08:15
    35

    True. I want to thank Karagiosis for his/her thumbs-up. Everytime she/he writes W&K appear in the scenario. :)

  • jj
    December 19th, 2008 09:44
    36

    She looked beautiful!!

    It’s so nice to see them out and about!!!!! Trixie they will figure it out. It’s unfortunate that she can’t be seen going to business meetings etc but after such a long drought I don’t care any more!! I’m just happy to see her out!!

  • Bella
    December 19th, 2008 10:03
    37

    Karagiossis.To me it looks like the relationship
    is going strong, after last nights outing I would like to hear what you have to say.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 10:16
    38

    Well, it looks like she didn’t cut her hair.

    Lisa, the numbers are odds. You would have to get a punter to explain exactly how it works. The only thing I know is that the smaller the difference between the two numbers, the lower the payout, and 5-4 odds will pay less than 2-1 (I think).

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 11:34
    39

    Now can Alsgal get a second Amen Sister! :)
    I just knew, down in my deepest tenderloins, that just when we’d all but given up hope, December would bring us at least one dead partridge in a pear tree sighting at Sandringham and at least one sighting of William and Kate coming of Boujis. (OK, so it was Whiskey Mist but what on Earth do I know about fashionable London nightlife? ;) )

    Anyhoo, this is a relief to all and even though Alsgal’s W&C lawnchair was burned to a charred crisp on my tarmac of a driveway (that’s right kids, we’re new money) a few weeks back, Big Al assures me that Home Depot is still in busniess, and we can still get it custom painted.

    Official announcement, Boxing Day or January, in time for Kate’s 27th?
    I’m good with either at this point.

    So, what’s up with the DMail printing a photo of future Queen Kate’s brawl? Were there no other pictures? Have they no respect?

  • jj
    December 19th, 2008 12:01
    40

    Amen Amen Amen Alsgal!!!!

    You were right on!!!!!! Announcement I am still a little wary of but if Ked is even beginning to waver on it who knows anything is possible!!!

  • TeaTea
    December 19th, 2008 12:43
    41

    Amen, sister girlfriend!

  • karagiosis
    December 19th, 2008 13:10
    42

    Bella,

    It is still just as I first said….
    I realise that for some it is very easy to disbelieve and even attempt to ridicule my comments. But I also know that these “sightings”, in the way they are perceived by many, are not representative of the true nature of their acquaintanceship. I think some, certainly not all, may fail to understand or even imagine that these little news tidbits and photos do not show the complete picture..

    After all there is such a thing as civility.

    -Karagiosis

    p.s. “Me”, I am a “she” by the way.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 13:46
    43

    Well, Karagiosis, I guess you have a 50% chance of being right, and if I had a need to lord it over people, I might play such a game. However, your use of the term “acquaintanceship”, assuming that mean that they are only acquaintances, is not supported by the evidence.

  • Chelsea
    December 19th, 2008 14:08
    44

    There is a new Kate & William article up at the daily mail.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 14:10
    45

    Although I have to admit that the one picture I’ve seen where KM is actually interacting with PM, they both look like they are trying not to look at each other.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 14:15
    46

    Meant PW not PM.

  • Bella
    December 19th, 2008 14:43
    47

    Karagiosis, Thank You for your reply.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 14:56
    48

    Amen Alsgal. What a joy to see them again.

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 14:59
    49

    Why does that picture of William in the taxi with Kate remind me of Tom Cruise in “Tropic Thunder”?

    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/threadcount/cruise_tropic_web.jpg

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 15:19
    50

    Ummm. . . don’t see the resemblance.

  • ked
    December 19th, 2008 16:43
    51

    Hello,

    I am not sure what exactly is going on yet but I don’t think we should take anything at face value and I mean anything.

    For whatever reason there has been a massive game being played out and it has been happening for quite some time.

    Truth will out and memories remain long.

    It’s going to be a long cold winer, spring , summer with autumn stretching well into the distant future and the sun may just not bother to come out at all.

    Let’s just wait and see and then pass judgment.

    Enough said.

  • gracie
    December 19th, 2008 16:57
    52

    Ked, the sun will not shine on their relationship as a way for us to see how things really are? Is that kind of what you are implying?

  • gracie
    December 19th, 2008 17:10
    53

    Is it me or does PW look to have a rash of some sort hiding beneath his beard? Perhaps that explains why he was hiding his face in photo. Maybe he used this break to get hair plugs?

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 17:15
    54

    Dearest Ked :)
    Listen, Alsgal isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer to begin with — please tell us exactly what it is you are implying? A long spring, the sun not bothering to come out at all — Ked, are you implying that Kate is a nuclear terrorist?

    Well, that would explain the appearance of a lack of work. But are things all so bad? What you are describing sounds positively terrifying, not just for William and Kate, but all of humanity. :(

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 17:33
    55

    William & kate is just spending quality time together before he’s off to training next month. The relationship is solid and there’s nothing more to it.

  • ked
    December 19th, 2008 18:03
    56

    alsgal,

    I’m sure that KM is NOT a nuclear or any other kind of terrorist but suddenly I get the impression that she has joined PW in this little charade and that to me, to put it bluntly, smells.

    The smiles from both seem just a little supercilious and unusually for KM she is not making any attempt at eye contact.

    Think back at the remarks made about how she would look at PW as she was smiling and he would sit there with that inscutable face looking anywhere but at her.

    He still isn’t looking at KM but has a more than mischievous smile on his face as if he is amused at some sort of private joke, whilst KM averts her eyes and almost has a disdainful look on her face but no smile or glint in her eyes.

    Photographs are deceiving especially after a heavy night but I can’t recall seeing such facial expressions from KM .

    There is something unnaturally opaque in both which is a little unnerving and I wonder what gracie thinks when studying KM’s posture.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 18:18
    57

    Well, New Idea is at it again.

    http://tinyurl.com/4penys

    Ked, I’ll say happily Kate may know something we don’t know yet. They was smiling ear to ear in that car and really looked happy and they seem to had a good time.

  • just visiting
    December 19th, 2008 18:20
    58

    Dear Ked,

    I only have one question-if I may!

    Your belief on PW and kate’s relationship/friendship still remains the same as what you stated, few days ago?

    thank you Ted :-)

  • just visiting
    December 19th, 2008 18:21
    59

    I meant “Ked”, not “Ted”. pardon me

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 18:24
    60

    Thanks Ked, even if I did have to look up a few of your five syllable words in the dictionary, I think I know what you are talking about. I think. :)

    Kate is smiling because:

    a)She has gas from that infamous cheese ball they serve every Thursday night at Whisky Mist

    b)She’s hiding that diamond engagement ring from PW in a place that only a really good, board certified proctologist could find

    c)Kate is William’s other beard?

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 18:28
    61

    They are happy for a reason, even the security guard gave a smile.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 18:32
    62

    And the New Idea story sounds interesting.

  • ked
    December 19th, 2008 18:33
    63

    alsgal,

    From the Greek proktos if my schoolboy memory is correct.

  • just visiting
    December 19th, 2008 18:37
    64

    I do enjoy reading you guys posts here. what a good find.

    I suppose Kate’s off work for christmas holiday for a while now?

  • mapleleaf
    December 19th, 2008 18:38
    65

    :lol: ked, it’s much too close to Christmas to have to deal with cryptic messages.

    :D Couldn’t we at least wait until after the New Year/Hogmanay celebrations are over before we get cryptic and mysterious?

    ;) Besides, Wills and Kate were in a car together with an RP officer just last night, and last weekend Kate was at Sandringham with Wills and some of his family.

    Prior to that on 15 November Kate was at Highgrove, and 4 November Kate was supposedly at Birkhall/Royal Deeside with Wills.

    So whatever we choose to label their relationship, it’s obvious that Wills definitely seems to prefer Kate’s company. Once again he’s spending time with her during the Christmas holiday season like he’s been doing every year since December 2003. That seems pretty straightforward to me.

    I’m glad they went out and we got to see photos of it. At least they’re celebrating the season and having fun together with family and friends.

    That’s the way it’s supposed to be this time of year.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 18:44
    66

    That’s right Mapleleaf, lets just celebrate to holidays knowing that everything is okay and going great.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 19:04
    67

    That New Idea article is fascinating and horrifying at the same time. Do women actually behave that way? What a recipe for disaster!

  • gracie
    December 19th, 2008 19:11
    68

    Ked, I had similiar thoughts on KM expressions. Some people say she is to “smiley” that it’s fake, but she has alot of expression in her eyes that is apparent when she is happy. I didn’t see that w/current pics. Of course it could be cause she’s tired, afterall it was late. There are a couple of pictures of her smiling, but for the most part there was no expression. She was walking a great deal ahead of Pippa where usually they interlock arms. Maybe there is some tension between them? She kind of reminded me too of Katie Holmes since she married Tommy boy, “the light is on but nobody is home.” I think that can happen to a person when they have endured great pain, all feelings have numbed and what’s left is the shell of a person. I am sure most will not agree w/me and think it’s silly, but it’s only my opinion when I look at the photos.

  • gracie
    December 19th, 2008 19:21
    69

    Hopefully, I will be proven wrong and the New Idea article is correct. I was curious if the photos of KM and PW in Rover where of them leaving the WM? The photos say they were arriving, but that does not make much sense as KM was just w/her sister and then KM is alone the taxi w/luggage and a gift.

  • Phoebe
    December 19th, 2008 19:24
    70

    Well, she doesn’t look ebullient, but she doesn’t look unhappy either, and William only looks drunk.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 19:25
    71

    When the paps are taking their pictures, you end up having the most interesting expressions. I think she was caught in thought because I too saw those pictures. Her face did get a little serious but I guess she was just thinking at that time, that’s all. Behave what way Phoebe? But it was good to see them out enjoying themseleves. I think the New Idea story is interesting, may not be true but if it was, it would be a great idea and a way to make this years holiday big.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 19:30
    72

    I found that interesting too Gracie. But I think they said that she was with her sister eariler then was with William. William really looked happy but not drunk, at least I don’t think he was drunk. Maybe alittle buzzed but really happy.

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 19:38
    73

    Gracie, I have to agree and say that I had the same feeling. Although it was great to see them together, I didn’t get the feeling looking at her eyes that Kate is as happy as she was before (perhaps she worries about PW’s new dangerous career?) and I sense a loss of carefreeness, if that’s a real word. Perhaps she has other worries about the economy or for Party Pieces? Let’s hope her family didn’t invest with Ponzi swindler Bernie Madoff, as in, Madoff with all your money.

    I also thought Pippa and Kate looked a bit more tense in the taxi togther, although that could be simply because Kate has given up trying to please the press after their harsh and uncalled for treatment and doesn’t give a rat’s anymore.

    Of course I cannot speculate as to what is going on between them but it would seem plausible that:

    1) whether it was SAR or the economy, Kate must be a bit disappointed, especially as prior to the SAR announcement, that designer told Mandrake she’d been asked to submit wedding dress plans — so between that and GMatthews getting sacked so soon after being hired, I do think something was in the cards and has been delayed

    2) even best case, happily in love and secretly engaged, Kate has got to be worrying about PW’s physical safety more so than usual.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 19:48
    74

    I don’t blame her for being worried but I do get the feeling that they are secretly engaged alsgal. It would be great if the new New Idea artical was right. I don’t think he will leave her next month hanging, he’s up to something.

  • maddie
    December 19th, 2008 20:16
    75

    I have said the same thing since they got back together and I still feel they will announce their engagment at christmas. Kates life is about to change!!!

  • alsgal
    December 19th, 2008 20:17
    76

    Rman, let’s hope your idea of up to something involves an after hours trip to Harry Winston or Van Cleef & Arpels ;)

    btw I don’t think PW looked drunk at all — what I see in those pics is a guy who is in love with his gal and is just happy to see her, be with her, and sit next to her. Even the bodyguard looks happy just to sit next to her, so magnetic and delightful is Kate’s presence.

  • maddie
    December 19th, 2008 20:31
    77

    I can’t wait to see the ring she gets!! He didn’t have that goofy look on his face like when he is drunk. I don’t think he was drunk either. I read her face as (Ha Ha losers I got your waity katey you will all know soon enough)

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 21:06
    78

    Even if they don’t announce anything this year, her life will change. I agree alsgal, I think the bodyguard got alittle happy too. William is in a hppy place in his life and you can really tell by that smile on his face. I thought it was fun how they proudly smiled for the paps.

  • Rman
    December 19th, 2008 21:08
    79

    That was a killer dress she had on. Great looking figure.

  • lisa
    December 19th, 2008 21:43
    80

    ked ked ked….What can I say? I am trying to learn to get past all this cryptic stuff but I can’t help but think that you and karagiosis are “close buddies”.

    Until I know something else,I will believe what I eyes see. William and Kate together. Period. No conspiracy. They may have a secret but I don’t think it is that she is his good friend and nothing more.

    The new Idea article is baloney. If the wedding is being planned,it is TOP secret. We will know soon,I think.

    I can’t wait to put this chapter in the past and move onto wedding talk :)

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 01:59
    81

    Lisa, I’m totally with you. I’m ready for the wedding talk and enough with the silliness.

  • anastasia
    December 20th, 2008 03:17
    82

    okay, my .02….

    I thought the dress was simply too short. If she’s at all trying to improve her media image (and it’s probably only on blogs that this notion has any reality), then this dress does not help.

    It reminded me of when she tried to look ‘hot’ back in spring of 2007, after their second break up, when she was out and about, and trying to look happy and glamourous and doing just fine without pw.

    I agree with Ked that something seemed ‘off’ with their facial expressions and body language.

    KM’s facial expressions looked strained, or forced, and she did not look genuinely happy.

    There just didn’t seem to be any noticeable warmth or affection as PW and KM sat together in the car. They looked stiff and a bit awkward. Where was the warmth and affection that one would expect?

    Something seems off here.

    And, if PW has so little free time to spend with KM, why didn’t he and KM eat dinner together? And why were they out drinking with friends, like teenagers?

  • Jade Falzon
    December 20th, 2008 03:53
    83

    ANASTASIA – Stop reading so much into people’s “expressions”. So what if they were out drinking? They’re adults. When did you become their parent? I am so tired of people passing judgment on William, Kate, Harry and Chelsy. You honestly believe Kate did not look happy? You say something seems off here? I think you’re comments are WAY OFF. They are adults and can go out and enjoy themselves with whomever they want to. William DOES NOT LIKE the papparazzi in case you haven’t noticed. You’re not going to see him all over Kate when there are photographers around and I don’t blame him. Let’s let them live their lives in some peace!

  • B
    December 20th, 2008 04:05
    84

    Jade, if you have the right to say that they did look happy then anastasia has the right to say that they did not. If you do not like others commenting about expressions and body language, don’t do it yourself. If you want to then you just have to put up with the fact that other people are not always going to agree and may see something differnet. Every opinion is just as valuable as the next.

    I personally think that the dress was too short. An inch or two longer would have been more advisable just so she did not show as much of her legs as she got into the car. Poor girl she must try to be more careful when getting out of cars, it must be embarrassing to know that someone has taken a photograph of your bra.

    I think that Kate does not look as happy as she is not smiling as much for the cameras as she used to do. There is no posing or big grins just a woman leaving a club and getting in the car.

    I do not believe the New Idea article at all. They are not a reliable source.

  • ked
    December 20th, 2008 05:31
    85

    Hello,

    lisa, I don’t think I was the only one to comment about KM’s demeanour and facial expressions. Compare the same night photographs when with her sister and when with PW.

    PW and KM both had that “ok it’s Christmas, they want a snap lets give them a couple , good night, see you in a week or two” and what was most unusual was that KM’s attitude to PW was exactly as PW usual attitude to KM.

    I don’t think PW would go to ‘8/8′ its so tiny and tables are so close together. The private back room seats about a dozen and they have a 2 for 1 at present so it gets a bit crowded.

    lisa, there is tension and even conflict between them at present and if it is PW’s press phobia that is causing it then he really has to grow up, get out of the nursery and remember who he is. He is going to get that attention all his life and he has to get over it and learn to use it as PC does and Diana did.

    He is not natural like PH, doesn’t really like people and has an implied arrogance whilst trying to show he is caring. It is obvious he isnt and seems to give off a very selfish attitude.

    it would seem from this latest sighting that KM’s attitude to PW has changed and perhaps she herself is now seeing that side of him whilst earlier on she was blind to it.

    Unless it is all an act carefully staged to show indifference in the hope that interest in them will wane as the public grow tired of the interminable misery that surrounds their public appearances to gether.

  • lisa
    December 20th, 2008 07:32
    86

    ked,I think people are really reading way too much into facial expressions and the direction they are looking in. Pictures are taken in a fraction of a second. They actually looked happier to me and for once,William did not drunk,which is a good thing,IMO.

    You state there is “tension and even conflict” between them. How do you you know this? Only someone close to a couple would know this kind of information.

    From what I can see,there is no change in the relationship at all. They appear together at the usual events(Sandringham hunting,Whiskey Mist etc.) I see not reason to think there is anything wrong. In fact they look happier in this batch of pictures then they normally do when they are being besieged by 40 lunatics with cameras.

    Where I do agree with you is William’s issues regarding the press. You are right,he will be in the public eye his whole life and it will only get worse so he better learn to accept it and deal with it..

  • gracie
    December 20th, 2008 09:33
    87

    Ked, I agree w/your comments. I do think KM appeared to have the same “look” that PW usually has when they are together. Like you said, maybe over these months she has seen something in him that she does not like and can’t fake it w/a big smile. I was wondering if the bags seen in one of the photos were from her stay at Sandringham and she was returning home after they left WM? I hope she has woken up and will find a life a way from PW while he is gone. I can’t see why she would want to carry on this charade though. Maybe there is a change in her family too and that change is due to PW not being w/her. Personally, I would be hurt if I were KM by her mother’s comments to the Telegraph. But that’s just me. JMO.

  • gracie
    December 20th, 2008 09:35
    88

    B, good points and I agree w/you on her dress.

  • dagy
    December 20th, 2008 10:46
    89

    In a taxi with quite a few photographers outside they have other things on their minds than looking in love. They just want to get into the taxi so it can drive away. The look on their faces has to do with this, not how they feel about eachother. Seriously, you cannot be jugding their love for eachother from pictures like these???
    I’m impressed that people here know that there is “tension”. Where do you get that from? Not from pictures, I’m sure. I’ve sen those from Sandringham and Whisky Mist. No tension seen.And I’m afraid I don’t believe, from having read this board for a long time now, that Ked or any other posters have any such inside information. Actually, I’m totally certain they don’t.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 11:04
    90

    Yes it’s true, everybody is paying too much attention to their facial expressions. Those pictures are taken so fast that you face comes out in all kind of different ways. When they was settled in the car, they smiled from ear to ear. They really showed us that everything is fine and they were out enjoying their holiday celebrations. I see Harry is said to be taking Chelsy to a Christmas vacation. I thought they would be home for the holidays? I think William & Kate gave us alittle holiday joy the other day.

  • B
    December 20th, 2008 11:09
    91

    Can you post a pic of them “smiling from ear to ear” please Rman? I haven’t seen many of the pics only the ones in the articles.

    Chelsy and Harry are going away over New Year not Christmas.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 11:18
    92

    B, the point is they smiled and looked happy. Thanks for letting me know about Harry & Chelsy.

    I see the bet is still on.

    http://tinyurl.com/8xbnmw

  • B
    December 20th, 2008 11:52
    93

    Okay, do you have a photo where they are both smiling then?

  • jj
    December 20th, 2008 11:57
    94

    Does anyone remember the pictures of Km & Pw in the car after the Boodles Boxing charity event? KM had a similar face on her as the pictures which were taken last night. I personally am just happy to seethem out & about together again. Pictures are only a small snap shotof the evening. Often at 4:00am I don’t look the happiest either. Hopefully everything is fine let’s be grateful that there have been some sightings & that we are not still wondering where KM is.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 12:10
    95

    I like this picture, so okay the sides of their mouth wasn’t touching their ears but you know what I mean.

    http://tinyurl.com/76s7gw

    That’s right JJ, lets be greatful that we now that everything is okay and they are enjoying themseleves. If the story is true, I’m happy to hear that Harry & Chelsy will be going away. These boys know how to treat their women.

  • H
    December 20th, 2008 12:31
    96

    Has anyone read this article – you have to click the “continuing reading” link to finish

    http://thelondonpaper.typepad.com/

    It says ““Wills stayed by Kate Middleton all night,” said our spy. “But Chelsy left ages before Harry, leaving him in the company of three mystery brunettes until the very end of the night.”

    As we have seen before, when they go to Whisky Mist details always seem to leak out. For those conspiricy theorists (Ked!) I can’t believe that Wills is socialising with Kate like this & they are not together still. I also think that PW looks alot happier than we have ever seen him in front of the cameras

    My bet for what is is worth, is that Kate will go to Sandringham this year & that there will be an engagement soon (ish).

  • Kat
    December 20th, 2008 13:18
    97

    I would have to agree with the people who are saying that Kate and William are still together. If William wanted just a physical relationship, he could find many girls who would go along with him. With Kate, there is a connection which goes beyond the physical. It spans from the time that they just met until right today.
    If they had just split up, I would not think that they would be seen together. I would also suspect that we have two people who are soul mates who will eventually get married.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 13:36
    98

    H & Kat, I agree. William really do look happy. I said before that he seem to be in a happy place in his life and got so much going for him. H, I said this about William & Kate and I’ll say it for Harry & Chelsy. If that is true, then I don’t think Chelsy would leave Harry with other girls if she didn’t trust him. I don’t Chelsy have anything to be worried about. Even if those girls choose to ignore it, they know William & Harry are taken.

  • B
    December 20th, 2008 14:45
    99

    Question: some people get criticised for saying that they were unhappy because of a few photos, but it is okay for people to say that they are happy because of ONE photo????

    Hmmm……

  • Kat
    December 20th, 2008 16:07
    100

    B,

    Everyone is entitled to her/his own opinion in my book. In fact, all view points should challenge what we believe. It took me almost a year of following William and Kate before I wrote my first words. In the end, we are all talking about two people who a very real. We can only guess about what is happening. The thought that strikes me is that every time I start to feel that they are drifting apart, they do something like this week with the hunting and the clubbing. It reinforces my thought that they do love each other. No one that I know could be dating for as long as they have, split, and soon after beseen together. I might be wrong. I do hope that they are together to give each other love, friendship, and support.
    There are only a few couples who are in their situation.

  • mapleleaf
    December 20th, 2008 16:36
    101

    I have a comment that is awaiting moderation, so I’m posting this one instead. There were at least 6 photos that showed William and Kate smiling, not one.

    And in that one photo, they were smiling so broadly their smiles can’t be missed. But if you guys want other pics of them smiling, here is the same one that rman posted:

    http://tinyurl.com/6t3zeq

  • mapleleaf
    December 20th, 2008 16:42
    102

    And another pic of them smiling. It looks the same as the first pic but it isn’t, you can’t see the RPO’s face in this pic:

    http://tinyurl.com/ax7f9n

  • mapleleaf
    December 20th, 2008 16:49
    103

    There are a few other pics from Thursday night, but I have to upload them in order for you guys to see them. I’ll upload them and post them a little later.

  • H
    December 20th, 2008 17:22
    104

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/12/20/harry-s-kissmass-115875-20985194/

    Now we have direct quotes from Prince Harry!!

    True or not true do you think?? Maybe both girls are going to be at Sandringham for Xmas??

  • Mathilde
    December 20th, 2008 17:30
    105

    Kate and PW smiled widely (even laughted) on Prince William’s birthday
    08 JUN 22

    http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mp0042219ej9.jpg

    ** BRW – No need to use forum code on this blog. You can just copy and paste the link into your comment, Thanks for posting! **

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 17:31
    106

    Who knows H, I don’t think we would get a picture of that. Maybe during boxing day or so.

  • Phoebe
    December 20th, 2008 17:39
    107

    So, it appears that CD did go to the b’day party at BP. Per PH via ZG.

  • anastasia
    December 20th, 2008 17:40
    108

    thank you, B, for your comments!

    Jade, your remarks to me seemed a bit harsh and uncalled for.

    I was expressing my interpretation of the photos, just as others did. Anyone is free to disagree with other posters’ interpretations of events in a civil manner, but your comments seemed really harsh.

  • visitor
    December 20th, 2008 19:09
    109

    Hello

    Ked
    “but suddenly I get the impression that she has joined PW in this little charade and that to me, to put it bluntly, smells.”

    I agree with u Ked, it smells.

    that siad

    when nature is not left to its device, when will is imposed, or tried to, wittingly or unwittingly, knowingly or unknowingly

    where will it lead?

    the path is clear and so is nature not to mention destiny, can’t be created or dictated, it will prevail

    meanwhile, the soap opera is worth watching, with interesting characters, twists and turns, predictable or unpredictable endings

    Then, its off 2 square 1 OR is it?

  • visitor
    December 20th, 2008 19:13
    110

    sorry meant “said” not siad

  • Kat
    December 20th, 2008 19:21
    111

    The article in which Harry says that Chelsy was at BP for the 60th birthday was reported by 2 other magazines or tabloids from Europe. I did not want to write about it without knowing the validity of the magazines which I tried to find out. However with it being reported by Harry I feel that this is not a rumor. In fact both sources say that both Kate and Chelsy were there. Here is the link to one of the articles
    http://tinyurl.com/9dzk6u. I translated it into English before doing the limk. I hope that it works.

  • Joanna
    December 20th, 2008 19:58
    112

    New article in Daily Mail stating Kate’s mum as saying a wedding may never happen ,and no invite for christmas.

  • gracie
    December 20th, 2008 20:07
    113

    I guess the DM vail has lifted and now they are back to their old tricks! I hope KM is at Sandringham this Christmas just so Katie can be wrong once again about something. I guess KM should just join a convent because the press will never let her have a life w/ or without PW. This is no different than the Salem Witch Trials in my opinion. They are branding this family and won’t stop until they have nothing!

  • Phoebe
    December 20th, 2008 20:35
    114

    Looks like Katie Nicholl is feeling like the odd woman out: the Telegraph got an exclusive, and so did the Mirror, now Katie’s got to prove that she’s in the running. Unfortunatley, what we get is more of a “source” “revealing” what Mrs. M is feeling about the situation. Not very credible.

    Poor Katie! Who in their right mind would talk to her?

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 21:19
    115

    I see KN is at it again.

  • Kat
    December 20th, 2008 21:20
    116

    I found the other reference to Kate and Chelsy being at Buckingham Palace for the reception for Charles’s 60th. It if from a French magazine Lefigaro dated 14/11/2008. I could not translate all of it so I translate the important paragraph and I do quote ” The week ended on a more festive for the Prince of Wales and his wife. Wednesday, Charles attended the televised gala entitled “We Are Most Amused” to benefit his foundation for young people, Prince’s Trust, with the participation of some of his friends actors. Some 1 500 places in the New Wimbledon Theater in London were sold between 25 and 100 pounds. The opportunity to thank the volunteers from its foundations. Two days later, it was the turn of Queen Elizabeth to offer a birthday dinner for his heir – reduced to 75 guests for reasons of austerity – with a classical music concert at Buckingham Palace that the Queen invited his whole family, including of course his grandchildren son, princes William and Harry, accompanied by their girlfriends, Kate Middleton and Chelsy Davy, and some members of European royal families, like the Swedish and Norwegian sovereign, and the couple heir Danish.”
    I don’t know if I can do this taking a part of the article. If not please disregard quote.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 21:22
    117

    You guys are right. Just when we know that everything is okay, KN has to rain on the parade. It’s just said and it’s totally wrong for KN to put words into Mrs. Middleton’s mouth. We know that none of that story is true.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 21:59
    118

    Just to let everyone know not to pay any attention to that KN artical. I just feel sorry that William & Kate have to go through that. But we know the one way they get through it is just by ignoring it.

  • maddie
    December 20th, 2008 22:11
    119

    has anyone on here seen facebook pictures of kate smoking?The admin on whu said they exist, yet I get the feeling they don’t like kate as much as chelsy. I have seen the pic of cigs in her purse but never of her actually smoking nor have I heard of these pics.

  • PH
    December 20th, 2008 22:21
    120

    Rman,
    I am constantly struck at the deep level of faith and belief you have in the PW/KM relationship. I really hope you get the engagement you are hoping for!

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 22:23
    121

    No, I have never seen Kate hold a cig.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 22:37
    122

    Well PH, I saw what happened to Charles & Diana and how the media treated them and put words into their mouth. I was young at the time but I had gotten the feeling that a lot of the media stories was nothing but a made up story. Now that William has found his lady, the media is dong something similar to them. I can’t believe after we have seen that things are going so well, KN would come up with that and what’s worse is put words into Mrs. Middletons mouth. You would think that since it’s the holidays she would come up with something nice but no KN has to try to rain on this couples parade. It just bothers me. I went to other royal sites and read that some of them think it’s a bunch of bull. It’s just sad PH that that these two have to go though that but I think back to William & Harry’s interview and how they said that there are so many things that is mad up by the media about them and how they often wonder to themseleves, where do they get these stories from? We don’t know what William & Kate have planned at this time so we just have to wait and see what they will do.

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 22:42
    123

    We know now that everything is okay so, I’m just trying to block KN out of my head PH.

  • PH
    December 20th, 2008 22:44
    124

    Rman,
    I agree with you about the media and Charles and Diana– that was a three-ring circus from the very beginning until its tragic ending. Also, the way KM and PW are covered by the press leaves all of us in the dark about what is REALLY going on in their lives.

    Kate Nicholls is shocking in the way she weaves fiction around royal family members.
    I don’t believe a word she says.
    The so called information she got about Carole Middleton is laughable.

    She is just reacting to the absence of information about an official engagment. No one knows what is going to happen between PW and KM.

    Well, something touches me about your devotion to KM and PW. Its kind of sweet. ;)

  • Rman
    December 20th, 2008 23:10
    125

    Well thanks PH, lol.

  • Kat
    December 20th, 2008 23:16
    126

    Hopefully William and Kate will be strong enough to ignore all of what the press has to say. This couple has been through such scrutiny that no one should have to endure. The bottom line is that only they know how they feel about each other. They know how much in love they are, They know of their plans for their fulure. KN does not. Roman, I respect you and count on you insights. I hope that PW and Kate have a long and happy life together.On that note, I am going to bed