Prince William & Kate Middleton at Whisky Mist
Nights on the town have been a rarity for Kate Middleton and Prince William in recent months, but the couple made up for lost time with a visit to London’s Whisky Mist.
The pair were spotted arriving at the bar – a popular royal haunt – at 12.30am where they partied until the early hours of this morning.
And while Kate, who enjoyed dinner at Eight Over Eight restaurant in Chelsea with sister Pippa earlier in the evening, was dressed to the nines in an electric blue dress, it was her boyfriend’s facial hair that was attracting all the attention.
Read the entire article at the Daily Mail
December 20th, 2008 08:45
This is the first time Wills and catherine have a date with his beard!! ha..ha..ha.. different view right?? i guess, all people at london wisky mist doesn’t recognize him!! he..he..nice trap! but sometimes maybe all people become know him cause catherine in beside him
December 20th, 2008 11:42
Do you think KM and PW will get engaged this winter?
December 20th, 2008 12:03
Who knows PH, they could get engaged and decide to announce it whenever they want or when they have the time to do so.
December 20th, 2008 21:12
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1099104/Royal-Wedding-It-happen-says-Kate-Middletons-mother.html
Update! Kate mom’s speaks again for the second time. she’s been worried about her daughter status.
December 21st, 2008 00:37
Kate’s mom is saying there may never be a wedding. This is not sounding good for Kate.
December 21st, 2008 01:39
kate’s mom showing her concern about PW not proposing to KM shows how desperate she is KM marries PW. As always, I dont see any signs that KM and PW are still dating. To me they look like some people who just want to hung out. Some people are starting to bring again the engagement rumors because they have been spotted together, but this doesnt mean anything.
I remember watching this reality show where a girl wanted to marry her boyfriend but her boyfriend would always keep putting excuses not to marry. First because he was working on his bachelors, and later because he was working on his doctorate degree. At the end, he told her he didnt want to marry her. The presenter of the show said that psychologists recommend a woman not waiting for a proposal for many years. That it is better to end the relationship.
The same thing applies to this couple. It is not recommendable that KM waits for so long, if PW was desperately in love with her, or if he wanted to settle down with her, he would’ve proposed long time ago. PW is doubting about marrying her and this is not a good sign.
In my opinion, I dont think I would wait for my boyfriend to propose for 13 years. I would instead realize that if he is taking so long to propose is because he is not quite sure about marrying me, so I would end the relationship once and for all.
December 21st, 2008 03:56
You guys know darn well Mrs. Middleton did not say any of those things and KN just rehashed Mandrakes artical. The whole artical is a bunch of bull that she made up.
December 21st, 2008 04:16
Well, she obviously said something because there are direct quotes within the articles.
How do we know that she did not say those things? We have quotes from a friend saying that she did, in fact what Mrs Middleton did say is quoted by her friend.
It might be a rehash of the Mandrake article but we all agreed that the Mandrake article sounded as if parts were missing. Perhaps, these are the parts that were missing???
Any ideas????
December 21st, 2008 04:29
It’s Miss “I never got a story straight ever” Nicholl who reports this so no, IMO, it’s not true or reliable. The press writes all sorts of “quotes” all the time hiding behind a “friend” as source. I don’t think there’s any truth to this at all if only because Carole Middleton would surely never say any such thing at a public event where she could possibly be overheard. The Mandrake article didn’t contain anything relating to Will and Kate so that was different. But since Will and Kate are obviously still dating, why would Carole go ahead and say any such things now? If she were doubtful about the relationship wouldn’t she advise her daughter to end it rather than running around telling people she doesn’t think it’ll ever end up in marriage?
December 21st, 2008 04:35
Well I know darn well Pr. William hasn’t married Kate yet and so does her mother obviously, the woman sounds sincerely worried , maybe Kate’s mom can see it’s not moving anywhere.
December 21st, 2008 04:43
Maybe finally her mother has advised her to end it completely and Kate’s not listening.
December 21st, 2008 04:44
Keep falling for the media’s baloney. Don’t believe everything you read. These people are desperate for any kind of story!!!
December 21st, 2008 04:51
Good for them, they look great. Nice to see them out for a fun night out in public. Shuts up all of the losers who celebrated their breakup. I got a good laugh out of that one.
December 21st, 2008 04:54
Kate is still not engaged and there have been two reports of her mom suddenly talking. The latest report is a Royal wedding may never happen for her daughter. These sort of things were not printed in the past years, concernng her mother. Things have changed now, William is going to the RAF service, he has put up all kinds of roadblocks in Kates way, her mother can see what is happening.
December 21st, 2008 04:55
Hello,
According to the telegraph PW says he is going to Australia at Christmas but CH deny it. Knowing how much they know about his past plans it may well be that he is travelling ‘down under’ before going to S and R.
So Paris Hilton was not wrong when she said they were to meet up in Australia. It’s rather odd that both stories coincide, isnt it ?
Or is it. I think I said in an earlier post that KM seemed to have joined PW in his play acting and now we can judge if he is playing with the paps or playing with us, being the citizens of the UK
If thats the case and he’s playing with us and the rest of his future subjects so who could say if he playing with peoples emotions, even pehaps with KM’s or not. Who knows ?
If he is of that then what do we believe in the future ?
The options are, if he really told the press he is going to Australia and doesn’t go, he’s playing games with all of us including KM. If he does go then is it against the odds that he is meeting up with the heiress over the holiday period.
If so then who is playing games, PW, KM or both and has KM decided to join in the games?
I think the word ’stalking horse’ has been used in the past but isn’t it strange that both Princes’ seem to give the impression that they would prefer to live overseas.
PH in Africa and PW in Australia.
Who really is playing games?
Judge yourselves and remembee.
December 21st, 2008 05:13
“Miss “I never got a story straight ever” Nicholl”
LOL
That gave me a laugh!
December 21st, 2008 05:22
http://tinyurl.com/77ysc9
According to the DM Chelsy plans to start working for Farrers next autumn.
December 21st, 2008 05:35
Good for her! I hope she manages to get the job she wants.
December 21st, 2008 06:14
Hello,
PH seems to have been very upfront with his comments about Chelsy but was it the cocktails or the beer talking.
In any case PH and PW are do different, in looks,build (he is more stockier than the slim PW and not quite so tall ) , hair quality (and quantity) and colouring, temperament, attitude to newspapers ,his common touch even to sitting at bar in preference to vip area.
As a person he seems to different to PW but really has his mothers caring attitute and empathy with the sick, injured and young. I’m not sure if he is lefthanded like PW but the differences between them as Princes and as individualy gets more striking as they get older.
It was said that he was a little left out as PW was very much Diana’s favorit but he doensn’t seem to have been harmed by it.
December 21st, 2008 07:05
Why do people believe the word of the tabloids? I know the posters here and on other forums are for the most part,bright,intelligent people. Sometimes people just need a reality check. All you have to do it read the headlines of the tabloids over the past few years to know they LIE. They lie to get people to buy their so called publications and to visit their websites so they can make money. Facts and truth are irrelevant. Ever notice how the source is always a “friend” or a “pal” or a “source”. They are essentially predators of a sort because the use and exploit celebrities and other public figures to make a buck. A good example is the reporting of the cancer of Patrick Swayze. Or the countless weddings of Brad and Angelina.
There are direct quotes this morning from Prince Harry stating that both he and William have “lovely girlfriends” or something like that. Now unless he is referring to Paris Hilton or some mystery woman that William has locked in the tower of London waiting to be revealed as his bride,Harry is talking about Kate. Thats all you need to know. Use your brains, people.
December 21st, 2008 07:17
Rant number 2: Can it be any more obvious that Katie Nicholl and John from RA are each others source? His current article backs up her article and her article\’s content is the stuff he has been selling for months. Alleged wedding dates that were \”penciled in\” and then suddenly dropped etc etc…What is up with that? I wonder if John and or Katie have a source that is trying to throw them off because frankly,they are both looking clueless. This thing of going from Girlfriend to girlfriend is just silly. Please. If William would actually parade an ex girlfriend around in full view of the press fully knowing what the assumptions would be then the man has a few marbles missing and is not qualified for the future that is ahead of him. I don’t think that is the case. I think the missing marbles in this game belong to someone else.
December 21st, 2008 07:44
lise,
Could it just be that both PH and TPT are referring to another young lady a little nearer to heir background.
Think about it.
I have
December 21st, 2008 07:49
yeah the one Wills has locked up in the tower just waiting for the right time to introduce her to the public!
December 21st, 2008 08:24
Why is he dithering with this girl for so long?
He needs to be a man and either step up and marry her or let her go, because she does not seem to have sense enough to leave on her own.
He does not seem to want marriage with Kate, if he did he would have proposed already.
Her mother may be forcing his hand by talking in public ,knowing it will get in the press. The Royal Family will not want this sort of talk or headlnes connected to William. Something will be done soon perhaps, either way.
William has inherited his father’s knack of making a mess with relationships. The break up last year is part of the mess, if William had done that in a quiet way, we the public would not know that they have been on and off, but because he puts all of this in the public eye, his entire relationship with this girl has been subject to scrutiny,both good and bad. Kate has also played her part in making it a spectacle.
He’s already made a mess of the situation as far as I can see, even if he marries her now, it will look forced and stale. He’s got this woman
(willingly) driving up to nightclubs at midnight and she’s not his fiancee after six years and some wonder why the public is losing respect for her.
Maybe William is not a very astute or bright young man afterall.
December 21st, 2008 09:24
Lisa,
Perhaps KM isn’t the only one giving up career.
puaola,
He’s a Windsor. Enough said.
December 21st, 2008 09:26
Lisa
Sorry . Don’t know how it happened . Above posts under ‘lisa’ are mine
Sorry and apologies
December 21st, 2008 10:05
If PW is going to Austraila to hook up w/Paris, then the monarchy should just throw in the towel! People give KM and her family such crap and Paris is a jailbird. Yes, she is an heiress and sell herself/image to make money, but she is no Lauren Bush. She does not hang w/aristo, she hangs w/the Hollywood crowd. I can’t believe anyone would take her seriously. If PW is going to Austraila he might be seeing the blonde-girl he danced w/at wedding party, rather than Paris! I hope he is not dating that girl in hunting photos w/PH, Laura Stoughton cause I think KM is much prettier. I would rather him end up w/Alexandra Knatchbull or Tatiana Mountbatten.
December 21st, 2008 10:18
Lisa I agree. First of all my fellow royal watchers, we have seen lately that William & Kate is doing just fine. They gave us a few pictures of them at Sandringham on a shoot, and they have given us a few more pictures of them leaving one of their favorite hot spots. They really seem to be in a happy place right now and we can clearly see that. We have talked about it and said how wonderful it is to see them after they took a little hiatus from the media and taking some time to spend the holidays with each other. Now KN comes and tries to wipe all of the holiday joy from our faces and some of you guys actually believe the stuff that she is saying. Now we all are intitled to our opinions but we are smarter than this. Now if the story in the Telegraph is true, then Mrs. Middleton just express her concern for her children and her business and all this attention they get but wev know darn well that she would not mention anything about a wedding to the Prince. That would not only ruin her daughters chance but throw that six year relationship right out of the window. There is no way she would say that and knowing that everything is going on just fine. KN is just trying to throw everybody off and obviously can’t write anything cheerful for the holiday’s. Now I think that is sad and we cannot believe anything that she just said after seeing that everything is fine. But like I said before, I feel bad for William & Kate because it’s no matter what they do, they can’t win. People are always going to try to find something wrong with this couple. They show lots of togetherness and happiness and yet people still think that KN is right. I mean that is just interesting. We know that they are spending lots of time together as a couple and that is it. This is always a special time of the year for couples, not just because of the presents but this is the season of joy, giving and love. KN could have lied about something else but she choose’s to rain on their parade but it’s our job to keep that public parade going. Let be the leaders and not the followers guys. We on this site is smarter than that.
December 21st, 2008 10:28
As for the RA site. I think like many people, John has given up on William & Kate and very much tierd of the speculation of an engagement. KN articals are very much like the Holy Bible to that site now so I pretty much don’t pay any attention to it. We jsut to keep the faith in knowing that everything is fine with these two.
December 21st, 2008 10:29
Sorry I ment “just” in that last line, lol.
December 21st, 2008 10:45
Amen Rman,Amen.
December 21st, 2008 10:50
Well you know it’s Sunday so I have to preach the word.
December 21st, 2008 11:02
Hello,
For many months now I have not understood that PW and KM are in fact a couple and have taken a fair amount of criticism but I did have my reasons.
KM is aware of the damage that will accrue if PW is seen to be at fault for their split up and she is acting now as a loyal friend and subject.
I am sure she has been aware of her position for many months and would seem to have accepted it.
The stories about her mother’s comments recently may be made up, but these type of stories have not surfaced over the past 5+ years . Why now?
Hurtful comments from the outside have been plentyful and the family have ignored them , now when things seem to have quietened down she would not have made any statements unless there may just be some substance to them. If it was only KN, well it could be made up, but the telegraph was also involved and this could be the family’s way of warning everyone that all may not be as it was hoped.
I am not certain that what I write is correct but the happenings of the past months and the present circumstances seem to lend some weight as do the “make up/break” up theories of the summer 2007.
If PW did say he was going to Australia at Christmas well knowing that PH has already announced that they had agreed to meet up there and he does in fact go, then that will be the perfect time for KM to announce they were on a break and leave it at that. . This may all be a contradiction and may seem crazy but it is a possibility although a swop of PH for KM to me is a ‘no brainer’ but so have many of PW’s decisions lately and any involvement with her would not lead to engagement stories. I hope!
I hope this is not the last we see or hear about KM because she has been so loyal and PW always said said he didn’t want to hurt her but hurt her he has by his prevarication and dithering attitude so reminiscent of his father. PP really understood his som and must have hoped PW would not have same attitude.
He is not now the boy she fell in love with at Aberdeen but there is a lot between them.
Hope that I’m so, so wrong but also that the break is clean and absolute.
December 21st, 2008 11:03
Rman do you really believe that PW and KM “gave us” the photos????
Do you think that they wake up thinking, hang on we haven’t been out in a while, people will stop believing that we are dating and there will be rumours?
December 21st, 2008 11:04
Interesting stuff going on. Don’t know what it means. Could be that the Princes have declared wat on the tabs. Maybe not a smart move, but I don’t see how the press can make their live more difficult than they have already.
December 21st, 2008 11:06
Good post ked.
I am sure that he is not the boy she feel in love with but I am also sure that she is not the girl he initally feel in love with. I don’t mean that in a malicious manner but people change a lot from their teens/early twenties to late twenties. I would be less surprised for them breaking up for that reason than any of the media pressure/ committment problems that we hear about.
December 21st, 2008 11:07
The DM did not publish any direct quotes from Mrs. M. What they published were alleged quotes from Mrs. M made to a “source”, reliable or not. There is a big difference.
December 21st, 2008 11:11
And assuming that the one and only alleged direct quote was reported verbatim, what she said “Of course, we just don’t know what Kate’s going to do now.” could be simply a diplomatic way of saying “mind your own business”.
December 21st, 2008 11:14
Ked, do you think that PW has another girl, possibly an aristo, waiting in the wings for him to make their relationship public?
December 21st, 2008 11:20
ked so now your saying that Kate is William’s loyal friend and “subject”? This nonsense talk is just becoming too much. I am not even going to bother debating it. Couples that break up rarely continue to spend so much time together as they did before. They must be such good friends that either of them chooses to date someone else.
ked,why have you not answered my inquiries regarding your using the screename Karagiosis?
I truely don’t understand these games.
December 21st, 2008 11:38
Ked,
Something about your post rings true for me. I think it is a mature and thought out very well, I also picked up on your compassion for Kate.
As much as everyone wants a happy ending it is very possible there will be none.
B,
I also think what you said about the extreme changes most people go through from late teens to late twenties can not be overlooked.
The truth about this relationship with be made public in the next few months. It is important, however, to prepare for news in either direction.
December 21st, 2008 11:49
The more I look at the photos of KM from WM, the more I think she does not look happy. I don’t know how she can endure playing this game, it seems like it would be to painful and what’s the purpose anyway? If they are no longer together, faking that they are is not going to help either of them in the long run. I think back to her exit ,after she and PW came back from Mystique, from Raffles? and she was just beaming from ear to ear! Also at the Disco were she seemed very happy and excited.
December 21st, 2008 12:00
Ked, I agree with you that PW is a lot like his father, based on all the evidence avaliable to us, i.e., inflexible and self-indulgent. If there has been a rift between them, I think it is fallout from the roller disco. Gracie is right: KM looked really happy then, and she certainly doesn’t look that way now (although it is true that you can’t put a lot on one sighting). If PW came down on her because of the pictures of her lying on the floor, as some have speculated, it doesn’t reflect well on him, given his own behavior. Maybe she is feeling this way too. Perhaps they are both just smarting from so much bad press, and just want to be left alone.
Bottom-line, I think PW needs to do some maturing, and if it is indeed his plan, not to marry until he is at least 28, it is probably a good idea.
December 21st, 2008 12:04
That’s true PH. B, I think they allowed the pictures to be taken. But like I said before is people will always try to find something wrong with this couple. Everything was all good and fine until KN came up with her story. She always manage to get us upset and she is very good at it. I think the major problem is we are all waiting to see what the couple will next. They are in a happy place now and we could clearly see that in the car. Look we are talking about two adults here and I don’t believe these two nearly 27 year olds would constantly play games with the media. The main thing we have been asking for is a sighting that would put all the breakup rumors to a rest and now that is not enough for many. Everything is still calm and these people are going about their business and celebrating the holidays and here we are going back and forth with words over KN. Now isn’t that funny. It’s like I said William & Kate can’t win.
December 21st, 2008 12:09
lisa,
I am not Kxyz or whatever. I only post under my own name and I was amazed when two posts came out as Lisa but I apologised immediately.
You can ask Steven to confirm origin if you wish I have no objection
December 21st, 2008 12:15
Nobody has been affected by KN’s story because it is very similar to what some people say here, you either agree or you don’t.
If they would not play games with the media, they would not “allow” or “give us” photos, they would just get on with their normal lives and if photos are taken so be it.
I am worried for Kate in terms of her public image. Just look at some of the comments made by people in the newspapers. I made the point that the few sets of photographs that we have seen over the past 3 months have been negative with the undignified roller disco; driving using a mobile and shooting. Now to top it all off she has been seen leaving a club as part of a group which spent £8000 on drinks. It is hardly a good image which makes me think that CH is not helping her at all (not that I ever thought they were).
December 21st, 2008 12:15
Rman,
I must respectfully disagree with you: I think arguing about KN is a necessary evil. When people accept the poison that she, and others of her species, publish, without thought, reputations get destroyed.
(As you said, it’s Sunday, and I gotta preach).
December 21st, 2008 12:23
Gracie, yes she was very happy but some think these two happiness is just too good to be true. They have to try to find something wrong because it’s not that much happiness in the world. It’s just so interesting how we can go from,” it’s good to see them” to “their not happy” because of KN. I’m sorry, maybe something is wrong with me because I just don’t understand it. But everytime this kind of thing happens and columnist from a online paper come up with something that isn’t true, I think back to William & Harry’s interview last year. And how they expressed that the papers come with all kinds of things and Harry did mention that the problem is some members of the public actually believe the stuff. so I’m sorry guys if my writing sound a bit angry but sometimes I come online and read some comments and I just sit back and think to myself and say “are these people for real?.” I mean “are they serious?.”
I mean I just can’t help but to think that. Then my dumb self go over to the other sites and read the nasty things they say about Kate and her family and that’s why I know for a fact that this couple has to remain strong and do what they have to do in order to be with each other because there are forces that is aginst them and it’s strong too.
December 21st, 2008 12:30
Phoebe, I agree but I’m not just talking about KN but about other tabs too. It’s one of the reasons why the tabs and royals don’t get along so well because they like to twist a story so it can sell. But what sad for the royals is they need the media to highlight their work and the Monarchy in order to keep going so they have to deal with a lot when it comes to their private lives.
December 21st, 2008 12:40
I see this happen to a lot of our Hollywood celebs too. Couples that is in love and going about their business is not all that hot but a juicy story about breakups, divorces and he said she, she said is what make papers sell and get people to talking. It’s how the money roll in and how people pay their bills. I remember when Diana gave that famous interview in 95 and she made a comment on how the paps treated her and then she went on to say that she often heard the paps tell her to put your head up so we can take your picture and afford to send our kids to school. It’s how they make their money and if they have to make up a story and quotes then that’s how they will do it.
December 21st, 2008 12:51
Hello,
lisa,
There is something that many do not understand
but it is very factual and well documented.
Royal Princes always ensure that their Ex’s remain on side as best friends thus preventing embarrassments and ‘kiss and tell stories.
PC, Andrew even PP and before them David PofW in the 30’s used their ex girlfriends tp cover later affairs and liasons. They are able to control it because they control the ’society’ about them and any transgressions are punished by the ex being ostracised by that society, their friends, school chums etc and life becomes impossible (eg Kanga and a M/s Welesly (?) who did speak up) and decent marriage chances negligible and invites to functions dry up.
In the 20/30’s David the PofW, kept his affair with Mrs. Simpson secret for eight years whilst living with her at various addresses both in UK and Europe.
gracie,
x 2 . one is semi another not so but not sure if casual or serious.
The refs by the lady and PH may not have been accidental but deliberately vague and off hand.
It still perplexes me that many still apply their own standards of behaviour and actions when thinking about the RF. Over the centuries they have established their own customs and rights which are divorced even from many of the newer aristocratics but accepted as their standard by many of the older families from whom “Ladies/Gentlemen in waiting” and “of the bedchamber” , advisors and friends are selected generation upon generation. Remember Camilla introduced herself to PC as ” your grandfather and my grandmother did it, how about it ”
These families often provide mistresses of royalty the only provisor being that an heir is produced first by the husband who himself remains ‘on side’ and even honoured that his wife has been selected and he continues to receive patronage.
So when thinking about what is or may happen put aside your own thoughts and try to think as they do.
December 21st, 2008 12:51
Rman,
You made a good point. It may be true that ALL couples who love, date, and marry in the public eye/in front of cameras are subject to public opinion, scrutiny, and often negative forces that constantly work to split them up.
Such high profile relationships and marriages are really hard to be in, because public opinion can turn ugly and cruel at the drop of a hat.
December 21st, 2008 13:01
Rman,
Sorry to post but missed your last.
Perhaps you can understand why so many of
” that society” raise their objection to KM.
They have daughters and grandaughters who they believe have a greater right to be with PW and be eliveated themselves to RF status through any grandchildren. I
It’s a different world and I have tried to explain that to you many times.
All that glitters ect etc..
December 21st, 2008 13:30
There is nothing wrong with a person thinking that Kate and William have broken up and that they are just friend nor is nothing wrong with a person not liking Kate. Otherwise, it would just be double standards.
You make a very good point about behaviour within the RF ked. It is the reason why somethings are just not done that way with no other possible explanation. I hope that William is able to treat Kate with respect and that she is able to treat herself with respect (sometimes I feel that she had put her life on hold too much for him and as an intelligent young woman she is missing out). It would be a shame to see William behave the same way as many before him have, this is a very different era for the RF.
Does anyone know when William/ Harry (and perhaps the girlfriends) are travelling to Sandringham for Christmas? Was it Saturday or today?
December 21st, 2008 13:34
Re: Kate and William “giving us” the pictures from Whisky Mist:
Celebs often do this as well- Guy and Madonna for example… they not only did the happy married couple for the red carpet, but also staged photo ops at various restaurants, etc. and then less than a month later they announced their divorce, and acknowledged that they had been separated all along.
We don’t know that this isn’t the case for them, or even if it is. Just my dose of speculation!
December 21st, 2008 13:37
I don’t understand a prince (who if they indeed have no future) will join an organization SAR
to escape marriage. He certainly is not honest with his future employers. On top of that, by being seen with Kate, he is sending a wrong message to the public. Therfore he is not being honest with them. I am sorry. I just don’t see William that way. I am not saying that he and Kate have not had problems. All couples go through tough times. However, I don’t see him as dishonest. Therefore, with him taking Kate to his Grandparents’ royal estate, I take him at his action. That shows me that he is still very much together with Kate. I also would not think that Kate’s mother would speak to anyone concerning the state of their relationship.If she hasn’t by now, I would think thatshe wouldn’t now. I am just hoping that whatever is going on will be made
known soon. I hope that the New Idea is right for the second time.
December 21st, 2008 13:43
When were New Idea right for the first time??? Was that the PH thing? because that was hardly a guess or assumption to be right or wrong about, the press knew about it but just didn’t reveal it.
There is a difference though Rina (see ked’s post) between a royal and a celebrity. It is wrong of the RF to behave like ordinary celebrities because they are not, there are higher expectations for a start. Why would William “allow” people to photograph him with Kate when Kate has been keeping a low profile recently and been able to enjoy the benefits. The shooting party was an annual thing and the Christmas party was a celebration between friends. IMO, it was not a matter of allowing the press to photograph them but rather them just wanting to go and have fun.
I don’t know what to think about the SAR thing either Kat. On one hand I can understand what you are saying but on the other I can see the point that other people are saying. It is a hard one to call.
BTW ked: did you have fun at SCD last night? I bet the atmosphere was great. I was watching it on the television last night, Tom’s showdance was great!
December 21st, 2008 14:05
New Idea is an Australian mag and they were not in on the secret. In fact, they apologized after the fact for releasing the information.
December 21st, 2008 14:09
On the other hand, it was probably not much of a scoop because the information was bound to leak out somewhere, and I am surprised it managed to stay a secret as long as it did.
December 21st, 2008 14:27
I totally understand you Ked and I know how members of High Society work. There are many women out there that believe that it’s their right to be in that position. But William has the last word on that. But you know what I mean Ked when I say, that some has to find something wrong with this couple. Kat, I agree. Every couple goes through their rough moments and I keep trying to tell people that royalty is not a fairytale but a real life thing. Kat, I don’t think William is that way either and some paints him as a user when it comes to Kate. We don’t know what they have planned for next year and just because he’s going into traning don’t mean that Kate is just going to be sitting and waiting. Whatever they have planned, it will work for them. I totally understand how it looks guys but somehow I get the feeling that they have something up their sleeve when it comes down to what they will do. We just have to wait and see but for the mean time, everything looks fine with them and I did enjoy watching them celebrate the holidays. B, who knows when they will go to Sandringham. I think Charles & Camilla have one or two more engagements before they go back to Sandringham. Hopefully we will see the Princes there but I don’t think we will see the girls there until later on Boxing Day or they may be spending Christmas with their families. We just have to wait and see on that as well. Hopefully we will get some joyous news soon or early next year.
December 21st, 2008 14:38
And to add to that, William & Kate, Harry & Chelsy all seem to fine and happy so lets just focus on that and how great it is that they made it though a rough year with any breakups and big scandals. Over the year in the royal world, I think about all the events like the holiday trips, the wing and medal ceremonies, the Order of the Garter Service, the royal weddings and the other summer break trips and I for one think this was a great year for both couples. Only now we are having some media speculation and I think I should have kept my mouth closed when I said, how surprised I was that the media wasn’t speculating. It was a good year though, we really got excited didn’t we?
December 21st, 2008 14:39
I ment “without any breakups and big scandals.”
December 21st, 2008 14:57
B,
Yes I enjoyed the day but I like many there were disgusted at the result. Initially the elimination of Lisa which everyone knew was going to happen at before the end of the first part and we also knew that Tom was going to win. Tom’s was definitely off form all night and made mistake after mistake but the other two were very gracious.
I’ve seen the replay of his show dance and that of R and V and believe me R and V were so much better. Tom almost fell two or thee times at at one stage seemed to lose a shoe but that didn’t show on replay.
Of course the best dancer was sitting about six seats and a couple of rows from me, as Austin was thrown out two weeks ago
Thanks for asking, it was a super night.
December 21st, 2008 15:15
Kat,
I’m not too sure how you define being dishonest?
If you took your employers car (or helicopter) and told a few ‘near the mark’ reasons for doing so?
If you used their vehicle to surreptitiously go to a couple of family outings several hundred miles away without asking and even misleading your driver. Is that dishonest?
Where is the line Kat ?
Do not judge what they do with what you yourself would do in anything especially relationships (add them all up). It’s a different ball game and only one winner.
December 21st, 2008 15:39
The difference to me is that Prince William would not have(been allowed to) dither and drag through the press for years ,a(single) girl from an Aristocratic family. It would not have been allowed by the girls family or possibly the Royal Family, they would have known to keep the relationship more discreet, they would not have allowed Pr. William to basically destroy their daughter’s, by letting him to drag the Aristocrat, for years and years in and out of nightclubs as his girlfriend for years and years.The family would have had a word with him or possibly someone higher in William’s line. I believe William has made a mess of Kate’s reputation and she has allowed him to do so, in his handling of her.
I don’t put the Harry and Chelsy relationship on the same messy level as William and Kate’s, because Chelsy has been dealt with differently by the press in the past two years, much of it has to do with her career, educational goals, she does not give the appearance of needing an engagement or ring so badly and the way Prince Harry has handled her, as well as her press attention being less .
My belief is when William plucked Kate at University, he was very attracted to her phycially(he still is) but picked a girl he would not get asked questions about his intentions, because she’d be so happy to have him, she’d ut up with anything from him(and she has). He selected someone he could have fun with, sleep with for years and not worry that she might press him for marrige. He did not worry about her reputation because he figured he was never going to marry her, they were just having fun. Remember once a year ago, she pressed him about where the relationship was going and he dumped her, saying the fun had gone out of the relationship.
She has changed since University, she wants to be more than a fun girl, he hangs with and enjoys time with(yes he loves her, but not enough to make her his Princess.) He probably can’t even understand why they can’t just go on forever like they did at University, because he saw her as someone to enjoy as a girlfriend. He wasn’t thinking about her as wife and the mother of his children when he met her, just a year or so out of his teens. William also probably does not even see himself as a husband yet. They are on two different wave-lengths as far as I can see. William is running off to the RAF, he wants no part of marriage to Kate or anyone , anytime soon.
December 21st, 2008 16:07
Puaola,
The funny thing is that we have all had “fun” relationships. Sometimes one person wanted more and the other wanted less, we eventually learned to find someone who wanted the same.
Youth is the time for learning about the many types of “romantic” relationships, as there are the good, the bad, and the ugly.
It does appear that the public only allows Prince William one type of relationship: the kind leading to marriage.
Something you said reminded me of Lady Diana’s grandmother and the Queen Mother acting as matchmaker for PC and Diana.
December 21st, 2008 16:07
That’s the problem puaola, the boy did fall in love with an aristocrat, he fell in love with Kate Middelton. This is why I said that we don’t know what arrangements they will have next year and we have no idea what their plan is. I don’t believe William would take her this far just to leave her for the RAF. This is why we just have to wait and see what they will do. We don’t even know if they are already engaged but jsut haven’t announced it yet. I feel William got something up his sleeve and I don’t think for one minute that William will do this girl wrong. If he just wanted to do that then he would have let her go long ago and just went about his training. Kate knows what’s going on and if it was something bad I do believe she would have stayed away from Sandringham and away from him. Lets just sit back and see what’s going to happen puaola, my gut feeling tells me it’s going to be a great ride. perhaps next year we will know more, for right now I think everyone is enjoying the holidays.
December 21st, 2008 16:13
Sorry, I didn’t see you comment PH.
“It does appear that the public only allows Prince William one type of relationship: the kind leading to marriage.”
Now that I agree with PH and I just like that they have taken their time with this relationship. I think it’s a case of a couple that wants something different than what the media and public want. That’s why I have said, lets just let them handle this the way they see fit. They are grown adults.
December 21st, 2008 16:43
I think the public will give PW a hard time UNTIL he marries someone!
Anything that does not look like it will end in marriage will be harshly criticized by the public.
If the courtship is too long, if the engagement is too long, if he is single too long then the public will call him a cad, like they are calling him right now.
I guess that is the price one pays for being heir to the throne.
December 21st, 2008 16:49
PH this is true and that has been the problem I’ve had with the press handling of William’s relationship with Kate from day one. The press always tried pushing him into marriage with Kate, when maybe, just maybe he is growing up, finding his likes, discovering his body needs, discovering his emotional needs in a woman.
Kate always appeared to be William’s relationship from youth to maturity, but it will not go to the alter and that is the dilema he is having. The press and his dithering( and his deep caring and love for Kate) have backed him into a corner. Despite his love for her(it’s not enough to want to marry her), he will not marry her is my belief (he is not ready) but but no one will win from this relationship in the end. It is a mess and William selected this girl and has dragged her around for years and she let him, now what does he do? According to Mrs Middleton’s latest words, a wedding is not coming.
Maybe someone is about to settle this mess.
December 21st, 2008 16:52
Puaola,
I don’t always agree with what you post, in fact I don’t agree with many others either and I’m sure that most don’t agree with what I post.
However having said that I think that paragraphs one and three of your post were absolutely spot on, you had the courage to say that whilst most of us have skated around it for some time.
PW has not treated KM well and has not protected her reputation as a lover should. I understand that protocol and tradition means that the RF do not comment on such matters but he has made other debatable decisions which went against royal protocol but not once has he come out and said enough is enough, that’s my girl your insulting.
He would only have had to do it once and she and her family would have been spared much heartache and distress over the past eighteen to twenty our months and KM’s reputation as the consort of a future Sovereign would have been maintained.
Puaola as you so succinctly put it, he would not have been allowed to have acted as he has to a lady from such a family and it’s very much to his discredit that he neglected KM when she needed him most.
The reported comments attributed to KM’s mother has , if they are true , seriously affected any immediate chance of a proposal as senior members of the RF would feel that PW was now being forced into it and would most certainly veto it.
I think KN should be asked by the PCC to justify the source of her comments but again protocol prevents any interference or action from PW or the RF and KM’s family would not do anything further to inflame the position.
Yet again, it seems that PW and his phobias may have put two young lives into misery.
I sincerely hope not but it does look ominous.
December 21st, 2008 17:01
Puaola,
Excellent, excellent post! You have put my thoughts into words. I agree with every single word you wrote.
The trouble began the minute the press got wind of PW dating KM at University. They were never, ever, ever going to let this poor boy have a “normal” first love.
Ked,
I fully disagree with you. It is your thinking about Kate, that she needs so much protection from PW that makes this more Jane Austen than anything. Let’s not insult Kate like that, she has free will and if she does not like the way PW treats her then why did she stay for so long?
December 21st, 2008 17:25
We just have to wait and see Ked. Ked I don’t skate around this couple. If I believed with my heart that William will do this girl wrong, I will have the courage to say so. I think everyone on here knows by now that I speak my mind. I believe William has handled this the way he wanted to. It of course not the way we want him to but it’s his life. I still don’t believe he will do her wrong, totally break her heart and using her. We shall see what’s going to happen. Many thought we would not see them in public recently because the rumor was Kate was at home nursing a broken heart and he was at CH pulling the rest of his hair out. That’s no longer the case. Everything was fine until that DM artical came out and all hell broke lose. Ked I agree that PCC should do that but then again why shine light on crap? So I guess that won’t happen and it’s up the public to believe it or not. But I do realize that the columnist is smart by mentioning Carole because it makes the storyline sound very believable. If you really think about it, there was no appearences from Kate in a couple of months, the end of the year was nearing and everybody wants to know where is Kate? Her sister is seen several times and her mother even made a appearence but no Kate. So that was the perfect time for a writer to cook up a story and some quotes because that would explain the lack of appearences. MD did it first now KN is trying to finish it. So to be honest with everyone on here, I really did wish Mrs. Middleton had actually said something and told those silly tabloids to go to hell but I think she is too nice or that and that would have gotten her into a world of trouble.
December 21st, 2008 17:29
Or the Middletons just like the attention-plus, you usually get some sort of compensation for an interview or article.
December 21st, 2008 17:34
Well I highly doubt that we would have these appearences if that was the case.
December 21st, 2008 18:21
Rofl they are not required to talk to the press about their love lives.
December 21st, 2008 18:32
That’s right and that’s why they don’t. That’s why those quotes are made up because no one is allowed to talk.
December 21st, 2008 18:34
Holy crap. I get on a plane for a few hours to fly to London and it all goes hay wire. I read some of the comments over at RA as well.
I like to believe that the golden couple are fine and just getting on with their lives. Some of the theories about what they are doing are a little crazy IMO.
Hopefully they are just getting on with it as the same old rumors (and a few new ones from Katie Nicholl & John RA) continue to swirl.
December 21st, 2008 18:44
Yeah JJ, you know theses stories can really get us going. The DM came up with something and that was it.
December 21st, 2008 18:58
another .02
i totally agree with whomever posted that post about young ladies from aristocratic families not being treated the way KM has been treated
either PW would not dare to drag things out and act ambivalently for so many years, or the young lady’s family would not have allowed her to remain in such a relationship
i’ve seen similar sad cases IRL, and wondered to myself, how come the girl’s parents don’t put a stop to it?
it seems unconscionable that PW has not stepped up to publicly defend KM!
how can he love and cherish her, yet not publicly defend her from the nasty media? the only possible conclusion is there is a certain callowness there, and lack of the kind of deep, enduring love and cherishing that KM deserves
i know that other royal families have evolved a different set of behaviors and values….
other random thoughts:
wasn’t it the king of sweden who married a commoner he had met at the olympics many years ago? she was part german and part brazilian and not from any royal background…
i will repeat: to me, KM looked as if she was deeply hurt or betrayed in these Whisky nightclub pictures…there was a dullness to her expression and affect….
i suspect she is being kept in the picture as ‘friend of pw’ or friend of the rf, both to keep her quiet, and to try to preserve pw’s reputation
and surely pw opted for this extended military adventure for the same reason: it provides the perfect excuse for not marrying KM….
the whole thing is very sad
December 21st, 2008 19:29
I’ve tried to totally stopped reading the comments at RA, and I haven’t tried to post over there since I was banned. I suspect my ban has been lifted, but I’m too disappointed in what John has to say to even bother.
We don’t know the true situation between William and Kate, but we do know that they are continuing to see each other and spend time with each.
We also know that according to a couple of different tabloids, Harry was directly quoted by 2 female journalists as having said that he and Chelsy were doing well in their relationship, and that Wills and Kate were doing well in their relationship.
I can’t swear that these tabloids are correct, especially since one of them is The People U.K., but the other one is the Mirror, and at least the journalist in the Mirror who wrote the article is claiming that she spoke with Harry directly and he said those things to her.
She could be lying, but I’d believe a direct quote in first person before I believe Katie Nicholl of the Daily Mail and her third person quotes from so-called “friends”.
So I’m not going to assume things are over or going badly between them until an announcement is made that things are over. There are way too many conflicting reports telling totally different stories.
One article says that William stuck by Kate’s side all night long on Thursday night, and we saw photos of them leaving the club in the car together, with big smiles on their faces. Those smiles didn’t tell any tales of unhappy people.
So I won’t assume the relationship is over until I see an announcement in the press that proves it, like it was announced in April 2007.
That hasn’t happened yet, and we’ve seen them together. If they’ve broken up, then we’ll find out and it won’t be in doubt. Until then, I’m not going to assume something negative that hasn’t even been verified.
If I’m making assumptions, I’m going to base my assumptions on photographs and activities rather than speculations and third party ’sources’.
December 21st, 2008 19:29
anastasia, we don’t know they will do and what their plans are, so lets just wait and see and enjoy the holidays.
December 21st, 2008 19:36
Mapleleaf, I’m with you on that and so true that they looked really happy. I do remember that it said that he was with her the whole night. Mapleleaf, these people are just going about enjoying the season with their friends and not paying attention the crap the tabs are coming up with. That’s all there is to it.
December 21st, 2008 19:52
Anastasia: both the Kings of Sweden and Norway married “commoners” (not royal, not aristo), as have the Crown Princes of Norway and Denmark.
Mapleleaf: the DM article quotes PH on the state of his own relationship. The People article allegedly quotes him on the state of his brother’s relationship. I don’t think he would do the latter. That’s why I am skeptical of the People aritcle.
December 21st, 2008 19:55
We are celebrating Christmas, the birth of Christ. Everyone should ask themselves if they are following Christ in their comments about William and Kate. My family will be here tomorrow so I will say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I’ll check back in the new year.
December 21st, 2008 20:05
Grandma828, yes. I really like that comment.
December 21st, 2008 20:06
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Grandma828.
December 21st, 2008 20:21
I’ve been quiet for a while, but am very amazed at how 2 recent Will/Kate sightings after 3 months of drought could stir a whirlwind of speculations and whatnot. When I first saw the hunting/Whisky Mist pictures, my reaction was simple…”oh so they didn’t break up after all…” Now people are trying to prove that they’re dwindling, just friends or about to get engaged. Why can’t we just leave it at the fact that they’re still seeing each other? I think the supporters of the relationship should just be happy that they’re still together, and not be affected by what KN or John from RA say. Those who’ve built up the possibility of an engagement when there may never have been any are the ones who think the relationship is “deteriorating.”
Mapleleaf, I, too, have stopped reading many of the forums/posts. They’re just too depressing (and misleading). Before these events, they had me convinced that Will & Kate are done with.
December 21st, 2008 20:25
Ked,
I meant by dishonesty is if William joined SAR to get out of marrying Kate he would be dishonest. I would think that an employer expects that one would join the SAR team because of wanting to help others, love of flying, love of country. Such a person is willing to fit into the group and work hard to reach the goals of SAR. If Willliam was joining to just get away from Kate his motives are suspect
therefore he is not being honest with his empolyers. Again every time he brings her into the public eye, he sends a message about Kate. He is telling the world-I want to be with this woman. The message is not that we are hanging out as friends “g”irlfriend.Again there is a disconnect between the message and reality. That is if you believe that they have split. I don’t believe that because of the message that they are together and are happy with each other. I agree that if they are toether that should be heralded by the queen and king.
December 21st, 2008 20:53
I meant to say heralded by the Queen and the royal family.
December 21st, 2008 21:04
My two cents:
The Queen, while sensitive to her peoples’ circumstances etc, is still a Royal, and an aristocrat. Things work very, very differently in these circles. While the Queen might be trying to work the whole commoner/ normal angle to win popularity amongst her subjects, that doesn’t mean that at the very end of the day she is normal.
Considering how successful some of the aristocratic girls and heiresses around the princes are (ie. Holly Branson, their cousins even, and even Paris Hilton for example’s sake, as she has manipulated her public image into a MEGA entertainment empire), do you REALLY actually believe that the Queen would sincerely approve of a girl who has skirted proper employment and a career her whole adult life (my own father owns a real estate holdings and development company, and I don’t exactly need an interview to work for him, and Party Pieces isn’t exactly the Trump Organization, with Ivanka Trump working for her father as a VP, having qualified through a job interview and a prestigious degree), has done little charity work (and what she has done only received criticism and mocking from the press and public), and whenever she is (or isn’t, as she has been quite absent from the party scene) seen on the town, happens to have her wardrobe malfunctions photographed for everyone to see? No matter how nice she is, her flaws are so obvious. And it only hurts that her actions to help this reputation that she has earned are perceived as only such, even if they aren’t (I believe they are).
Other royals have married ‘normal’ girls (Autumn Kelly, a fellow Canadian and consultant that PP met ON the job; Emma Perndal etc)- but they’ve all created wonderfully successful careers for themselves, and not acquiesed to their royal other’s every whim and request in terms of availability etc.
Families want the best for their sons and daughters when it comes to matches- compared to the women around her, KM is NOT the best at all if you consider all of her offerings. Being a nice and caring person or w/e she is is simply not enough to get you through life.
Seriously.
December 21st, 2008 21:18
Actually, being a nice and caring person can be enough to get you through life, in the opinion of some of us. Don’t project your shallow values onto others.
December 21st, 2008 22:05
dagsi, I know it’s all so interesting isn’t it? Kat, I couldn’t agree more. But you have some that can careless about his messages and want what they think is best for him not the other way around. I don’t believe the boy is a fool or thick headed but just a guy who is in love. Of course we can make a list of why he’s in love with her but when you really think about it, he knows her much more better than we do. Some look at a picture of her and try to sum her up just like that and they still wouldn’t know who she really is. To the public there is a hint of mystery that surrounds her but the real Kate Middleton is who William knows and in love with. He has lived with her, he knows her family and he has spent time with them. Everytime some begin to think William is single once again, he is with her. It’s truly time for others to accept that they are together but if they choose not to accept that, well that’s their problem.
December 21st, 2008 22:55
I apologize for violating the spirit of the season by my last comment. Please have a peaceful and enjoyable holiday, whateve holiday you choose to celebrate. (I for one celebrate Saturnalia).
December 21st, 2008 23:06
I’m not being shallow, I’m just saying it how it is for a lot of people. It’s okay Phoebe.
December 21st, 2008 23:15
Phoebe, Happy Holiday’s.
December 21st, 2008 23:35
Phoebe,
You were wrong to say those things to Rina. Thanks for apologizing.
Rina,
Your comments were thoughtful and appreciated. I enjoyed reading them very much.
December 22nd, 2008 07:43
Quote by Rina: “Other royals have married ‘normal’ girls (Autumn Kelly, a fellow Canadian and consultant that PP met ON the job; Emma Perndal etc)- but they’ve all created wonderfully successful careers for themselves, and not acquiesed to their royal other’s every whim and request in terms of availability etc.”
Proof, please???? Who the hell is Emma Perndal??? What is a “normal” girl? And Kate is not a “girl,” she is a young woman.
Phoebe, no apology to me was necessary. After all, why apologize for stating your “O-P-I-N-I-O-N”?????
December 22nd, 2008 08:18
PH,
Not wrong. Rude, yes, but not wrong.
December 22nd, 2008 09:17
Phoebe,
.
Okay, it was rude. You did apologize and that was polite
December 22nd, 2008 12:21
Emma Pernald is the girlfriend (not wife) of Prince Carl Philip. She has been dating him for 9 years so she is not in any better position than Kate is. She has also been under intense media scrutiny & have lots of ONFF situations like PW & KM. What that says…. who knows…
December 22nd, 2008 12:50
It says that in a modern relationship dating for years and years is not unusual.
However, I will take the opportunity to point out that Emma worked in a PR firm for many years and now works at an advertising company as a junior planner and she is only 1 year older than Kate.
December 22nd, 2008 13:07
jj,
Prince Carl Philip is not the Crown Prince, his sister Victoria is, so how are Emma Pernald and Kate in the same position?
I guess what you are saying is that they are both Princes?
December 22nd, 2008 13:39
Phoebe- thanks for the apology! Echoing “Guest”, it was your opinion, and you’re entitled to it!
Guest- no need to nitpick on words- by “girl” I simply meant female/woman/chick/etc/whatever- it was just me being colloquial.
By “normal”, I meant Kate’s position in society… ie. not an aristocrat, celebrity, royal, socialite, etc.
December 22nd, 2008 13:40
I think the fact that they are both Princes is a similarity which is not shared by many. Therefore, they are under similar types of pressure and are both in the public eye with an image of the RF to uphold.
December 22nd, 2008 13:58
PH,
perhaps you want to compare KM to the longterm boyfriend of crown princess Viktoria? They have been together for 8 or 9 years, no sign of an engagement yet, but I doubt he has to go through the same as KM has.
In any case, I agree with your former comment, PW is not in an easy position, as the media will only accept a relationship that leads quickly to a marriage. Lets not forget they need to sell papers, and a Girlfriend/fiancee etc is a cashcow for them. If the friendship is too long, he is single for too long, not enough pictures in the public … or if he gets married and does – shocking – not immediately produce an heir. I think sometimes people forget that he is 26, and most young people are not ready with 26 for marriage. I really think he wants to have the feeling that he has accomplished a few things before he gets married, and there is nothing (!) wrong with that.
As for CM comments: I am not taking them too seriously. Even, if they were true: since when does a parent know about the relationship of her child?
I never liked the comments from my parents about my relationships. 
Might well be that she is simply worried, but in the end, her daughter is old enough. I mean, it is not like he is beating her up…. According to the press, PW is not a loving caring boyfriend because he has not proposed yet – and I cannot take that seriously.
I really think both the boys are in happy relationships and this is nice to see. Every relationship has some problems once in a while, and as long as it does not get too much, that is okay, too. People are always longing for a fairytale, but longterm relationship are rarely fairytales.
December 22nd, 2008 14:20
Chris234, I agree but when comes down to real life royalty, there is no such thing as fairytales. Chris234, I’m glad to see Charles & Diana’s boys in longterm, loving relationships with great girls. I’m the same age as William and I’m no way ready for such a thing but I can’t speak for William because I have no idea what he is ready for and how he feels. I’m sure the guy talks to his woman about their future and where they are going. The media likes to make Kate out to be a airhead and just clueless because that makes the stories more interesting and a hot topic. I think Kate is totally far from that and she knows what he’s going to do before any of us know because she is close to him. She is the one who has dinner with him, talks to him on the phone, hangs out with him and most importantly is his girlfriend. So the press come up with these theories and very interesting articals that her mother don’t know what’s going to happen and Kate is confused and all of that. All of it makes up very good conversations for us but it can be very far from what’s going on behind their closed doors. I don’t think William is a cad or anything, you can tell that William & Harry are great guys and they don’t go around hurting their girlfriends and treating them with lots of disrespect because they weren’t raised that way. I also don’t believe these girls would be with them if that was going on. Kate & William knows were they stand and if the relationship continues to go from strength to strength like it is now, that ring will come in it’s due time.
December 22nd, 2008 14:31
PH
I was just comparing the fact that Emma and Kate have both been in long term relationships with Princes for several years & neither are married or engaged as yet. B makes a good point that Emma has worked for most of their relationship. But working or not doesn’t change the fact that neither of them are engaged and both of them have had media hell.
December 22nd, 2008 15:18
I don’t think that Kate has had as bad a time with the media as people make out. Yes, she has had some negative press but everyone in the public eye gets that eventually. The only times she has been photographed was really when she left clubs a lot. Yes, we did get some photos when she left for work but her 25th birthday was an exception (remarked by many paps at the time). Usually she had only a few photographers following her and if she can’t come with that, then she will not be able to cope with the attention that comes with being a member of the RF. We have hardly had any photos in the past year.
She has rarely had her photo taken when she is Berkshire, so if it was really that much hell she could have just gone to Berkshire. There is work available in Berkshire as well.