Romantic Candlelit Cabin: Will Wills Pop the Question?
This fairytale log cabin is where romantic Prince William whisked Kate Middleton for a candlelit supper – amid fevered speculation he is to pop the question.
Girlfriend Kate, 26, was ecstatic when she arrived at the isolated lodge to find a table laid with crisp white linen and silver cutlery. Besotted Wills got his dad’s flunkeys at Birkhall – where the lovebirds are staying on the Balmoral Estate in Scotland – to prepare the surprise.
He and Kate then enjoyed an intimate meal with nobody else around – before cuddling up beside a roaring log fire as temperatures outside plunged to -5°C. Their cosy lovenest – a fishing cabin nestling beside the picturesque River Dee – was where the 26-year-old Prince’s late great gran the Queen Mother liked to get away from it all.
Read the entire story at The Sun
January 5th, 2009 08:32
First let me say how happy I am that the site is back!
It is hard to know what to make of all these articles and rumors. I think the latest group about the table linens and roaring fire are a bit too much information if you know what I mean. The DM and the Sun are printing the same article word for word. That in itself is scary,lol… As for the lovenest in the woods…it looks COLD at -5 degrees. LOL…
January 5th, 2009 08:38
Lisa, I agree. Although the candlelight dinner story is wonderful news if it’s true — how on earth would the reporters know all of that?
William doesn’t talk to the press.
His minders don’t talk to the press.
His bodyguards don’t talk to the press.
I’m assuming Kate doesn’t talk to the press either.
So, why and how would they know all of this? Either someone gabbed or Rebecca English is channeling Barbara Cartland from the dead.
January 5th, 2009 08:44
Alsgal,I suppose it is possible that someone(and it is really hard to tell where this “story” originated) has a source at Birkhall that they are paying to provide information such as the arrival date,dining plans etc. It is also possible, but far fetched,IMO,that this information was intentionally leaked ahead of an announcement. The other possibility is that W/K are in Mustique lapping up the sun and laughing their butts off at all of us reading these silly stories of the two of them freezing in Scotland!
January 5th, 2009 09:27
I like that last scenario best, Lisa
January 5th, 2009 09:34
Of course there is one last scenario…Picture Carol and Michael chatting it up at Birkhall with C/C, the bodyguards freezing their butts off outside the cabin and William and Kate inside getting some final da do ron ron before he heads off to the RAF
January 5th, 2009 09:34
DUNCAN LARCOMBE usually hits the nail, gets it right.
January 5th, 2009 09:34
I should add, on the beach with a little velvet box woiuld be best but still, at least somewhere warm and sunny.
January 5th, 2009 09:38
me,I know DL is usually right on but the roaring fire and the crisp linens was a bit over the top,don’t you think? Unless the info was leaked to him,which is possible. If so,I would have to say that they are setting up for an announcement.
January 5th, 2009 09:42
Just saw your post, Lisa — yes, some do ron ron ideed, lol.
Me, I agree w/ you Duncan Larcombe has seemed to have the inside track this year — let’s hope he is preparing us for some really good news with the article and that they are not using this story as a red herring.
If Mr. and Mrs. Middleton are up at Birkhall, I’m putting all of my Monopoly money on a friends- and-family engagement announcement at Kate’s party on the 9th, with the official announcement to follow on Tuesday the 13th.
January 5th, 2009 09:51
What will prevail is before SAR/RAF he spent it with her. That is where I think the purpose of the leak, although the on the rocks, wobble stories may appear again this year – the art of selling papers.
January 5th, 2009 09:58
I dunno, Me. The same instinct that has brought me years of good luck down at the dog track (go with Tiny Prancer at 12:30
) is telling me down to the deepest bolts of my lawn chair that we are in for some big news in the next two weeks.
DL and Rebecca English have had access to a leak of near Titanic like proportions over the past few years, and it appears to me they are being used to prime the pump, so to speak.
This is make or break. KM can’t be left in this purgatory for the next 18 months, and I think even PW realises this is too much to ask of his Kate.
January 5th, 2009 10:08
True, I wish I knew their timeline-
January 5th, 2009 10:43
me and Alsgal,you both make great points. This could really go either way. All we can do is wait and see how these events unfold. The birthday party will be very telling. Whether it is a small affair or the mother of all parties remains to be seen. Would Charles disguise an engagement party under the ruse of a birthday party?
January 5th, 2009 10:44
Suppose all of the “on the rocks” theories have been intentionally fed to the press to give KM and PW time under the radar. Especially KM who has had one press filled year! The Sun has not reported marriage rumors since KM has been in hiding. In fact we mentioned on here before, how they would not even include her in certain articles like they normally would. DL should be put on the RF staff. I think he is in their back pockets and it would not be the first time the RF have had a favorite reporter that they leak to. DL has been very cautious these past months about writing anything about proposels or even breakups. He seems to get the story first and then DM picks up the same thing. I can’t imagine that DL would risk his relationship w/RF by printing engagement rumors if there were no substance behind it. He is Sun royal reporter, so his crediblity is his bread and butter. I don’t think all this info is coming from leakers, except from the RF themselves. Usually a story like this will preceed an engagement announcement and I bet DL will be the first w/the info! JMO.
January 5th, 2009 10:56
I also find it interesting that PH and PW are moving to St. James as was reported months ago and will have their own PR and letters w/embossed w/their own individual crests. KM and PW could have had a fallen out over these 2mo. especially if she was not happy w/SAR choice. Perhaps he could not be w/o her?
January 5th, 2009 11:02
I did miss BRW yesterday. I am new here but checking the posts is quickly becoming part of my daily routine.
Lisa,
Sadly, I find the fairytale log cabin, exactly that a fairytale. It just doesn’t ring true for me. Who would leak details such as the “find a table laid with crisp white linen and silver cutlery”?
Alsgal,
Loved this line “Rebecca English is channeling Barbara Cartland from the dead” — the article had the feel of a romance novel.
Here is one thing I am confused about. HELP!
The DM article says that PW is heading back to London to prepare for his SAF training on TUESDAY. Is that Jan 6?
Kate’s birthday is on Friday, January 9th? What about the family birthday bash?
Does this mean PW will propose tonight or did he propose last Friday night during the romantic dinner at the cabin? LOL!
HELP?
January 5th, 2009 11:12
PH, the DM reference to the date of tuesday could be one of several things. First they could mean next tuesday as in a week from tomorrow. Or it could be that William is due back and that is why he and Kate celebrated her birthday early. Or it could simply mean the DM was wrong,lol.
Gracie the move to St James is quite interesting to me. If the engagement is announced,that is likely where Kate would reside prior to the wedding, so William having his office there works out well.
January 5th, 2009 11:13
this is SO exciting!
January 5th, 2009 11:16
Lisa,
Thanks! LOL!
January 5th, 2009 11:25
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2009/01/05/kate-wills-birkhall/
January 5th, 2009 11:26
So help (bodyguards) were outside in -7C for several hours while PW and KM were enjoying nice dinner in front of the fire? I assume they (help) did not seat in a running car because it would be environmentally irresponsible and it would not please PC.
January 5th, 2009 11:31
This is an article by Rebecca English
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1105383/Pictured-The-romantic-Highland-log-cabin-Prince-William-keeping-warm-Kate-Middleton.html
January 5th, 2009 11:39
Well, so much for the birthday party on Friday that they were previously reporting.
January 5th, 2009 11:43
This is starting to enter the realms of the absurd and I am beginning to doubt the whole thing.
January 5th, 2009 12:09
PH, although a poorly insulated cabin next to a frozen river in the woods in January would be my own personal idea of hell, these Royals are different and a bit odd in what they find romantic. Wasn’t there even a report that Charles, at the tender age of 32, had proposed to Diana in the nursery at Windsor? They must have been sitting at the kiddie table when he asked for her hand. Wee chairs, a wee little table and candlelight, plus the lobster on the Peter Rabbit china — ah, the romance!
So, I wouldn’t put this past PW. I’m sure Kate, easygoing sort that she is, was delighted by any sort of nocturnal proposal that did not involve mixed drinks and Guy Pelly. I’m thinking she said yes.
Flying back to London to announce the engagement next week, I can feel it.
January 5th, 2009 12:30
ALSGAL,
I like the image of the cute little chairs and wee table covered in Beatrice Potter china and the coltish Diana twisted like a pretzel getting her vintage shappire from her Prince! A scene dripping with romance for sure! LOL!
Now back to the BIG news of the day. I also have a “feeling” something did happen between KM and PW last Friday night. Especially since there were no reports of Guy Pelly and mixed drinks — no signs of drinking the menu — makes it all sound very grownup and serious.
Are you thinking an engagement announcement will come next week?
Would they announce the engagement with PW already in SAF training? Don’t the royals like to have a press conference?
January 5th, 2009 12:32
Actually how could the river roar next to the cabin if the temperature was below freezing? Did I sleep through too much of high school physics?
Perhaps DL and RE got a few of the minor deets wrong.
January 5th, 2009 12:41
PH, indeed I am thinking despite the journalistic lack of understanding of basic thermodynamics an announcement is coming within the next week which is why PW and KM would be going back to London together.
Also suspect Harry and his Bikini were part of the ruse as well as there’s nothing like a blonde next to a pool to take the attention off of Wild Man Stan and the lovely missus.
January 5th, 2009 12:45
Moving water does not freeze.
I think the latest Sun article reports either CH or BP as inisting “no official plans for a royal wedding in 2009″. Notice it doesn’t say engagement. Still say engagement Christmas 2009, wedding June/July 2010.
January 5th, 2009 12:47
Unless it’s REALLY, REALLY cold.
January 5th, 2009 12:48
Alsgal,
Nice of you to give the journalist a wide, wide margin for error! LOL!
January 5th, 2009 12:49
Lisa- lol the cabin DOES look more cold than lovenest-ish, but that’s what bodies are for
! Especially if it’s two bodies plus one tiffany’s ring!
January 5th, 2009 12:55
That’s true Phoebe, moving water underneath does not freeze but the surface of a river or stream can freeze over, if it’s been cold long enough. Also depending on the size. It looks as if the cabin was next a smaller stream? Would that be roaring, I wonder?
January 5th, 2009 13:26
Well I’m glad BRW is back and I hope William & Kate had a great time. I still say that engagement will come in it’s due time. I’m glad that St.James’s Palace is the place where their office will be. Maybe Kate will be calling that place home soon.
January 5th, 2009 13:47
Rman,
Welcome back!
January 5th, 2009 14:18
Thanks PH, it was about time William & Harry take up their own offices and start to branch out on their own. Maybe this year we will be seeing Kate more involved in charity work and other different organizations. I really do feel that this year will get off to a great start and be bigger and better than last year.
January 5th, 2009 14:32
Happy new year to you all.
I think this is nice news – if it is true. The details are a bit too much, like everybody else I wonder how the paps can know that much?
Also, the place looks cold and empty – from what you can see through the window, there are no footprints (surely the servants carried the food etc inside?) and we should see some smoke coming out of the chimney.
Like the election of the pope: White smoke if he pops the question, black smoke if he does not.
January 5th, 2009 14:38
But perhaps Lisa is right and they are enjoying themselves on Mustique? It is also a special place for them, with lots of fond memories.
Wherever they are and what they are up to – we will find out soon.
January 5th, 2009 15:54
BRW – Missed you yesterday.
January 5th, 2009 16:01
With regards to the story of William & Kate in the log cabin. If I recall correctly, this cabin was a gift from Q to Charles for either his 18th or 21st birthday. It is located near Charles’ favourite fishing spot, where he used to take his former girlfriends, including Diana, and with long range camera lens and a good set of binoculars it’s not that hard to observe.
January 5th, 2009 16:05
Cont from above……
Also, I do not understand why the press assume just because Charles & Camilla have gone to Birkhall, and William & Kate have gone to Scotland, it doesn’t neccessarily mean they are staying with each other. I say this because, a property on the Balmoral estate came up for sale some years ago, and Q purchased it for William, just so as he can have a private retreat of his own. Therefore, wouldn’t it make more sense if he and K stayed there instead of Birkhall
January 5th, 2009 16:10
me – with respects to your opinion of Duncan Larcombe, I question the rumours of a possible engagement, irregardless of what the papers are saying. The official Royal Reporter of the Sun is still Arthur Edwards, Daily Mirror it’s still James Whittaker, and Daily Mail it’s still Richard Kay, therefore, I am of the opinion, any official leaks would from BP would be done via these journalists.
January 5th, 2009 16:14
Cont from above……
Is it not possible and more likely, that it’s Kate’s birthday soon, William shortly will be returning to RAF training, and what a nice birthday treat for Kate to whisk her to Scotland. Harry may go abroad for winter, but he third in line. William on the other hand is second in line, and there is afterall a recession, therefore it would look better if william was seen holidaying closer to home.
January 5th, 2009 16:16
Meanwhile BRW, any chance of you giving us bloggers from space to submit our postings……?
Also….Alsgal, am relishing your comments.
January 5th, 2009 16:26
How did people hear about this detailed info?
I knew that Kate is not tight lips. Just like she’s throwing rocks, but then she hides her hands: Oops, not me.
January 5th, 2009 16:32
BRW is back! YAY!n
I was a little bit slow on the uptake it seems. LOL
Hale: I think that it is very likely that he and Kate are just going away from a short break before he starts his training so they can spend some time together. What gets me is how this source from Hello! possibly know that it looked beautiful. The description that person has given sounds like they were there. Now I am not suggesting that Kate/PW have leaked, they are still together I believe. No, I am just questionning that source. In fact I am questionning all of those sources because how on earth would the papers have found out what William had done for her let alone the colour of the cultery (silver apparently).
No, I do not believe these articles, because unless Kate has gone home and told her family or friends and one of them have leaked it I don’t know how it could have got out. IF Kate does leak to the press she would not do it if William was there and as far as we know they are still in Birkhall together. I could not imagine Kate phoning up her parents/sister/friends on a private, quiet holiday which is just for the two of them. I wouldn’t, it would spoil the mood. Unless, Kate’s parents are already up there and they told a friend who leaked it. But I can’t see that happening either because if they were there, then they would be with PW/ PC and the DoC in which case they wouldn’t really talk to their friends would they? It would be so discreet.
No I am very confused about this article and can think of no way that the press could have found out. Unless Kate has already got home and their break has ended.
Sorry for rambling I hope you understand it.
January 5th, 2009 16:34
Chris: I believe that the photo was one that had already been taken i.e. it was an old photo, not one which has just been taken whilst Kate and William are in residence.
January 5th, 2009 16:35
The Kitchen that sent the food, the wife of the Security, the driver, the it may be a fly on the wall.
January 5th, 2009 16:42
Apologies BRW, What I mean’s to ask, is there any chance of giving us bloggers MORE space to submit our comments.
I am not from space….10/4##wlw43$£ and out.
January 5th, 2009 16:42
So the wife of the security, the kitchen staff and the drive all know what Kate’s response was???
It still doesn’t fit. They wouldn’t know that much detail, it was too personal.
January 5th, 2009 16:43
BTW: that is driver not the drive…although that would be a sight to see!
January 5th, 2009 16:49
Hi B, I’m with you on that. How on earth would the press know what the table looked like is interesting. No, I don’t believe Kate or her family leaked anything. But it does seem like a lot of changes is going on with William & Harry getting their own offices. I think they did visit Charles & Camilla at Birkhall while on their trip but just slip away for a romantic day out. William surely know how to keep Kate happy and keep the romance going. You know B, I get the feeling long after these two are married and interviews are given, we will know more of the truth behind this romance and things will make more sense.
January 5th, 2009 16:58
No I do think they would about this sort of thing either. I mean I’m pretty sure they have leaked in the past, I’m not naive enough to think that they couldn’t have but this is something so small and personal there is no point in leaking it other than to add speculation.
I don’t think we will ever find out what happens in this relationship, not for sure.
Oh btw this is mainly for you Rman because you mentioned you have a dream about them last week or recently at least. I only read your post the other day as I had been away and I don’t know whether I had been subconciously thinking about it or what, but I also had a dream about them. Only it wasn’t like yours. My dream was that they had broken up and William had a new girlfriend and Kate had a new boyfriend and both were very happy and in love. But it was strange! Of course it bears no relevance upon the relationship at all but I thought I’d bring it up as you had dreamt about them as well.
January 5th, 2009 16:58
Hale,
Several good points. Thoughtful comments.
January 5th, 2009 17:00
Well, I do know that the press really tries to dig deep for any into and you would be surprised to know that some members of the press have eyes and ears everywhere. The staff have away of talking and letting it pass through the gapevine. Remember that song “I heard it through the grapevine” by Marvin Gaye?
January 5th, 2009 17:15
Well B, the only reason why I said that one day we will know more about this couple is because in the past after the royals marry, they give their family and friends permission to talk about certain things and how the couple met and etc. If they would announce an engagement today, certain info would come out about the couple. I do believe that someday we will know more about the relationship and how the two feel in love. B, that dream I had was pretty quick but the dream was a bit shocking to me because like I have said before, when those two make a announcement it will be a shocking day and a big surprise. It’s not a” if” but “when” in their case and one of the reasons why the media gets all excited about them is because everyone is waiting for that announcement. My dream reflected on how I feel the news will come and how I will find out.
January 5th, 2009 17:31
Maybe it is just a romantic dinner… and early PRIVATE birthday gift for Kate… He has not seen her in awhile and maybe William just wants to show her he still cares… Seeing as how he is leaving for more training in a few weeks, it does not make sense to propose the run off and leave Kate to deal with the press… I think everyone is jumping to conclusions…
January 5th, 2009 17:33
I agree that the photos are stock photos. No offense to the RF, the cabin looks like it has not been touched in several years! Perhaps the photos are not current, but the roof tiles, shingles, etc. are coming off. I would think even if this place was a pit stop for the RF, it would be fit for a Queen. It looks more like a shed, were you put junk that you can’t get rid of because its broke or just plan ugly! The grounds are beautiful, but the cabin has the whole “Uni Bomber” look to it. I say its a test to see if KM really loves PW, cause if she can have dinner in the shed and still smile, she’s one heck of a woman. I still have to think that unless this is some type of fake story wrote for the benefit of showing that PW is a great guy, before they tell us they have parted as friends, that DL would not have thrown in the engagement stuff. The press has really backed off of KM since she’s on the down-low other than the cell phone incident. Why bring it up now, when they were reporting that it was over because of the SAR sign up? I’m sure Ked knows!!! Gosh it would be nice to have some good news and think that a non-aristo girl could marry her prince.
January 5th, 2009 17:40
Joydrop, I think that’s just what it was a nice romantic night for them. He really spends a lot of time with her and helping her celebrate her birthday. But when you read other royal blogs, they seem to get a little upset about the thought of these two off spending time with each other.
January 5th, 2009 17:51
Sorry Gracie, I didn’t see your comment. It is funny how the press is suddenly changing their tune on Kate and giving her the praise that she deserved on the disco event. I think things are on a path of change this year. Their complaints about Kate was pretty useless and pointless. I think those are old photos of that cabin. Also I think William & Kate has been put through a series of tests before they take that next step.
January 5th, 2009 18:28
Yes B, very personal. Tracking devices to the 2nd in line to the throne. BTW all those books about Diana and some of Charles where written by an ex butler, ex security guard, did the ex driver talk too ?!
January 5th, 2009 18:47
Me, one of Diana’s old drivers did give a interview for a documentary awhile back. I don’t know his name but I remember he did say that Diana was often nervous before she would arrive to an engagement. He didn’t say anything big though. It’s hard for the royals to trust those around them. The Queen & Princess Margaret former nanny had wrote a book about them after the Queen married prince philip and after that the royal family had nothing to do with her and when she died, the royals didn’t even send flowers. The book was called The Little Princesses: The Story of the Queen’s Childhood by her Nanny, Marion Crawford.
January 5th, 2009 18:53
I don’t think I made points clear enough. My apologies. What I was trying to say is; the cabin can be seen on the other side of the river Muick, if servants were seen setting up, what may have appeared as ‘dinner for two’, where are the photo’s? If they were having a candelight dinner, then I accept that is unlikely there would be photo’s as a candelight dinner suggest it would be in the evening. But, do you believe that the press would have been encamped late at night, observing these shenanigans. More likely they would have been holed up in the nearest pub. Furthermore, if you would want to have a romantic dinner at night, what’s the chances of W & K, trekking at night through the forest to a cabin, when you can retreat to your own private house on the Balmoral estate. I think this story is a complete fabrication by the press in order to feed public consumption. My belief is, there has been much speculation as to whether W & K were still attached, and Clarence House has let it be know that K & W have gone to Scotland together. Hence, the photo opportunity the press were given a the shoot at Sandringham. They merely wish to quell the rumours, that’s all. Remember Christmas time, according to the press, William was going to Australia for Yule Tide, and Harry was supposed to be taking C to meet his gran….All press fabrication. Therefore, BRW, yes the press claim K & W are with C & C at Birkhall, but do you believe them, when as I said, William has his own house there. It’s possible they might have met up for something or other. But that’s all….
Meanwhile, my apologies about my request for more space, I just discovered I have it. I’m NEW at this.
January 5th, 2009 19:14
As most know who blog on BRW often, I can be a skeptic. Yet there is alot that has been going on that does not add up. First, was Cindy Adams column in Page Nine after PC 60th saying that some are unhappy about KM becoming “closer,closer,closer” to PW. How much closer can a woman get to a man than having his child or becoming his wife? Second, several of Sophie’s charities have been dropped from her load, many actually. Perhaps they are going to someone else in the RF or it could be because of the economy? Third, PW will have his own office along w/PH, their own insignia’s will be used instead of the POW. Not much, but why now when the boys will be spending most of their time away from London training?
January 5th, 2009 19:27
I was elated with this article. Doesn’t anybody else believe it? I thought there was a lot of truth in it. Did the Middleton’s arrive in Scotland?
It doesn’t appear from other articles that PW leaves tomorrow, 1/6/09.
January 5th, 2009 19:41
I think the media is probably suggesting what was inside the cabin. Probably they are just guessing.
When it comes to engagement rumors, I dont think there will be any. This holiday doesnt surprise me because they have had like these before so I dont think there is any thing out of the ordinary for people to think that there will be an engagement pretty soon.
January 5th, 2009 19:44
Evening all! Just popping in to say how happy I am that the site is back up and all the usual suspects are present and accounted for. Now if we could just get that little piece of news that so many of us are waiting for…
BTW…anybody have the sudden urge to breakout into a chorus of LOVESHACK?
January 5th, 2009 19:56
Gracie, I don’t know what Cindy Adams was talking about but we do know that William & Kate are going on strong and seem to be getting closer to that next step. I don’t see why people would be worried about that. We did hear last year that the boys was going to branch out on their own and setup their own offices and we did guest that St. James’s Palace would be the place for them to do it. So it seems like their charities will report to the Palace instead of Clarence House. I also wonder what will happen to the charities that The Countess of Wessex was said to have dropped. Some think that a few is going to Kate. I think a lot will unfold over time and it will start to make some sense.
January 5th, 2009 20:00
LOL, Lisa you are something else. That’s all we can do is wait. Sonia, I’m beginning to think that the press was just adding to the story.
January 5th, 2009 20:13
All kidding aside for a moment,I wonder if the official announcement of William and Harry’s new office will accompany an engagement announcement? It may be wishful thinking but it would sure be stand up of William to make Kate’s position official before he begins this training.
January 5th, 2009 20:16
Well the bookies think it’s happening…
http://www.casinobeacon.co.uk/news-articles/news/2009-01/royal-060109.htm
January 5th, 2009 20:33
Royal engagements are always followed by a press conference. When would the press conference take place if William is leaving for the SAF this week?
January 5th, 2009 20:34
I don’t know Lisa, these two could get engaged and not lets us know about it until they are ready to let it be known. But they may decide to wait until a little later to make that announcement. We just have to wait and see what happens. Things are changing fast and I do think William got something up his sleeve but I’m waiting for all of this to unfold.
January 5th, 2009 20:35
I just reread the Telegraph article on PW and PH changing offices and realised that the Queen just made it official this past weekend and wants it to take affect immediately. The way I understand it is PW was supposed to get his own office because he was becoming full-time royal and since he changed his mind there was no hurry until now. Why? I think either PW and KM will get engaged or CD and PH. Although I think CD and PH are to young to marry now and both don’t seem like they are ready to give up partying. Most of the RF don’t marry until atleast 25 except for Diana. I could be wrong though. I read on the other blog that CD is Catholic too, although I don’t see her having a problem giving up her Faith to marry PH.
January 5th, 2009 20:37
PH, who said he will be leaving this week? I thought it was said that he will leave a little later this month.
January 5th, 2009 20:37
Gracie,
Cindy Adams actually said, “Kate Middleton moving closer and closer (pardon the phrase) to Britain’s Prince William, so nasties are humphing she “targeted” him early on. Well, who else should she target? A Lehman bookkeeper?”.
What she is referring to is what the naysayers have said from the very beginning, so there – nothing new.
January 5th, 2009 20:38
PH, when I was reading the Telegraph article it said that PW would return to London before heading to RAF. He is expected to announce a new charity that he/they will be supporting. Why would there be a need to announce a new charity when they usually just have BP/CH write up something and forward it to the press?
January 5th, 2009 20:43
TeaTea, I understand what she meant, but the royals are not mentioned much in Page Six especially CA column. It was a very short statement and the timing of it w/PC 60th as well as the fact that she is good friends w/Joan Rivers who just attended PC celebrations.
January 5th, 2009 20:44
I think PW has a couple of weeks before he starts with the RAF. I would imagine he would need a day or two to attend press events once they announce something but then he would be free to head off to training.
January 5th, 2009 21:09
Maybe PW and PH are picking up Sophie’s charities? I’m thinking small here.
January 5th, 2009 21:11
I still think we just have to wait and see and not jump to conclusions because I don’t want to start breakdancing for nothing.
January 5th, 2009 21:13
I recall awhile back that William and Harry were to embark in a new charity venture and it was called off or postponed due to William decision to join the RAF. It was for that reason they let that one fellow go,I forget his name or the details. maybe one of you guys can clear this up…
January 5th, 2009 21:20
I got the Tuesday/Return to London date from today’s DM article see the following excerpt:
“William and Kate plan to return to London on Tuesday as the prince has a number of charity-related engagements in his diary and needs to prepare to begin his training with his RAF.”
I am still searching for an SAF/Leave for Training date and will post when I find it.
January 5th, 2009 21:22
I saw that quote as well,but the POW website list no engagements for PW or PH and only one coming up for PC.
January 5th, 2009 21:28
Yeah Rman
I’m not getting too excited. I still think that the engagement is some time away. I do love that they are “reportedly” spending quality time together, but I do think that that is it. It is interesting information regarding Sophie’s charities being reduced but again that could be due to the economy. But hey fingers crossed anyway.
Alsgal you are a riot as always!!!
January 5th, 2009 21:38
Right, Lisa. Nothing listed under PW on the POW site.
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/personalprofiles/princewilliam/atwork/index.html
January 5th, 2009 21:44
In the “Bond of Brothers” article from the DM, a few days ago. I found this:
“William is due to head for Shawbury in mid-January.”
I would say that puts us around January 15th for leaving for Shawbury, if that date is true.
Rman, is that the reference you were referring to when you said you thought PW was leaving “a little later this month”?
January 5th, 2009 22:12
Yup, that’s why I thought that the 6th sounded too soon. JJ, that’s right lets keep our fingers crossed on that. Kate knows where she stand and it’s not on the darkside with everybody else. Even if nothing is announced just yet, the speculations will continue and they may even get wild because many think it’s a shame that Kate is being left alone but that’s not the case at all. So guys beware of what they will say on other royal sites or even the tabs.
January 5th, 2009 22:32
To tell everyone the truth, although I like that William & Kate are taking their time so they can have a successful union, I often wish they would go ahead and get it done already because the media makes all of this sound so difficult. But then again, I’m remaining patient and I know that great day will come. I just hope I’m alive to see it, lol.
January 5th, 2009 23:25
I see on some royal blogs, they don’t know that a new Monarchy site will be launched next month on the 12th.
January 6th, 2009 00:06
Rman,
I admire that you are keeping the faith. I do agree with you that they are still together and going strong. Why else would they have been together with Chareles and Camilla? It is pretty silly on their part to think that they would not create a stir by going public again.
William had to have known that the engagement talk would start up again for taking her to Birkhall. I think that could only mean that he wants to show the world how he feels about her. I am really not sure about an engagement now. I do believe that it is coming sometime in the near future. I am hoping for Kate that he makes a statement about theirstatus. In a way, I see the advantages and disadvantages to Kate for engagement. They know what time is right for them. For us, I am hoping that it is soon. For them, anytime is right.
January 6th, 2009 00:29
Kat, that’s all we can do is keep the faith. William always let us know that she is very important to him and she’s the love of his life. I get his message and I hope that the plan that they have now will work. I think William & Kate just want the media and public to be patient and keep the faith.
January 6th, 2009 00:37
Rman,
When you say a “new Monarchy website will be launched next month” do you mean:
1) This: http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp
or
2) What we do here “speculate” about royals, like the IF, RF, etc.?
January 6th, 2009 01:11
PH, it’s listed in the royal diary of official engagements that The Queen will give a reception at Buckingham Palace on Thursday Feb 12th to mark the launch of the new Monarchy Website. So yes that link above.
January 6th, 2009 01:21
Hello,
Happy New Year to everyone.
It’s been a very traumatic few days as I’ve been unable to make contact with BRW.
I moved to Verbier from Chamonix on New Year Day and most of runs are open but snow in short supply below 1200m. I’m moving north to Wolfgang on Davoser See between Davos and Klosters later today then to Zurich en route eventually to Ohio at the wekend.
The newspapers here are full of PW and KM supposedly weekend at Birkhill but there seems to be doubt about purpose of visit amongst Guys here and most photographs are historical especially the ‘Fishing Lodge’ which appeared a few months ago as a ‘Hunting Lodge’. Could be both I suppose but the details of the dinner are quite lurid aren’t they? No photographs even from Aberdeen Airport but I understand the roads are pretty grim there at present.
I don’t know but will just say don’t believe all that’s written as in my belief nothing has changed and it’s same old, same old.
Time to move as it’s getting light now. Have agood day everyone.
January 6th, 2009 01:36
Have a good day ked. It is pretty icy in places in Scotland at the moment.
Rman: How can you say it is “when not if”? It is always an if until the engagement is announced because something can always happen which causes them to break up and/or delay a wedding. Also, how do you know that they are “stronger than ever”? Nobody here could possibly know that because we do not know the couple. We have not seen pics of them for ages (except the shooting pics and we get those every year). In 2007 they went to Cheltenham and lots of people here said it was a sign that they were closer but they had already broken up. Now, I know that they have not broken up but there is no way that anyone could possibly know that they are “stronger than ever”
January 6th, 2009 02:05
Happy new year … just one thing, Arthur Edwards is just a photograph (not a journalist)
not The official Royal Reporter of the Sun
January 6th, 2009 02:47
Lord have Mercy B. Over the past year we have seen that William & Kate is going on stronger than ever and they have shown us that they are just fine. We know this because we can see it with our own eyes. No one can’t say it’s not true because the evidence of love is there. Even Stevie Wonder can see it. It’s just some choose to ignore it. Why? your guest is just as good as mine. Now yes something could always happen but we must keep positive thoughts and know that every relationship has it’s ups and downs. It’s just when there is a report that William & Kate may be having a wobble, people jump to conclusions and think that is the end of the relationship. B, at this point it’s pretty much a “When” not “If”. Everybody is waiting on that, even if we have to wait awhile. We seen pictures of the two just last month and things seem to be going on well. Which is a good thing and all we can do is hope that things continue to go well for them. The British Royals are very popular and the media’s interest in them is hot. William has a very busy life and I find it amazing that he has kept her by his side through it all since leaving college. If I knew him, I would give him a pat on the back and tell him keep up the good work. So the couple don’t have to say with words that they are going on strong, they tell us just by showing us. It’s up to those to open up their hearts and eyes to see it.
January 6th, 2009 06:53
Just recently we all saw a very smiling picture of both in Whisky Mist.
January 6th, 2009 09:37
What a guy!! Takes his best girl to dinner in the woods, a high class dinner in the woods for sure, and then off he goes for 7 years!
Sounds like a great deal to me.
January 6th, 2009 10:08
Ked, is this a working vacation or a vacation for you? What are you implying by writing “Guys here?” Are you talking about GP or someones sexual orientation? Why would the RF allow such an elaborate story, especially one that implies of a possible marriage proposal to generate? There has been no talk of a proposal in the press for months and I would think that if they are over that’s how they want it to stay! The last thing PW or KM would want would be the circulation of a possible engagement stories when they both have been laying low to calm the press inquires about this such thing.
January 6th, 2009 10:09
First 18 months he will have weekends, holidays and according to the POW site, he will be off from SAR duty when doing official royal duties.
I don’t see any trouble with being a Military with a girlfriend or spouse. Many thousands of military have such life.
January 6th, 2009 10:17
Sometimes I think people forget that the military is not prison. Yes you can have a girlfriend and even a wife!
My bet is that if no engagement is announced in the next two weeks,Kate will be moving to the area near the base so they can reside together. The surrounding are is supposed to be lovely and as long as William is close enough to make his duties,there is no reason why he could not live off base.
The one thing I am reasonably sure of is that this relationship is fine. Quite fine,indeed!
January 6th, 2009 10:29
Gracie and Me, you both are right. I think the media should calm down and just let William & Kate handle this. If nothing is happening yet then laying low is what they have to do. There are men & women that are fighting in the war as we speak with husbands and wives back home. They don’t see their better halfs for some time so no there’s nothing wrong with that. We don’t know what William & Kate will do, they could put a wedding on hold or just go for it. It’s their life and decision. I’m not worried about that.
January 6th, 2009 10:30
I totally agree Lisa.
January 6th, 2009 10:30
That is plausibe Lisa and perhaps may happen or not or they may each do their jobs at their separate location – this will help them grow fonder or separate.
But I agree that the press fooled those readers who wish to believe that being or belonging as an active or under training military is trouble in paradise. In all countries/cultures more than 90 percent of the military have the highest “stable” relationships with wives and girlfriends, most move to the nearest bases and form organizations and charity foundations locally to help out.
January 6th, 2009 10:35
I do not think KM will move near the base – her reputation is still that of a somewhat workshy girlfriend and she – literally – has to work on that. I assume she will stay where she is right now and keep working for PP. And in the evening skype with the prince and at weekends they will meet. Thousands of couples do this and I see not why it should not work out for them. It will also help them to keep a low profile and stay out of the press.
And as Ked already indicated, I also see an engagement coming only around Christmas 2009.
January 6th, 2009 10:39
Ked, you go to such exotic places: Chamonix, Verbier, Davos, Klosters, Zurich, . . .Ohio.
January 6th, 2009 11:00
Chris234, I think we will see more of Kate but she will probably be seen doing more charity work and getting involved with different organizations. The media has calmed down on calling her workshy because they know she works. Yes I’m sure they will meet whenever they can but I’m sure there will be calls and letters involved too. William is a big letter writer and the royals are known to write a lot.
January 6th, 2009 11:18
I think KM & PW are fine. With all the press claiming that they broke up some time ago, do you think that maybe this is PW’s way of saying “we are still very much together” without making a press statement? And who knows, they could be secretly engaged and are keeping it on the qt so that the press doesn’t go “Diana Crazy”? We all know how PW hates it when the press hounds KM.
January 6th, 2009 11:21
I don’t know how the RF deal w/spouses when their prince is in the military. I have moved many times w/my hubby while he was in the military and I don’t see KM living on base. The housing for lower ranking officers is very basic, not very nice. I have lived on base and off, but we usually lived off as the housing was nicer out in town. The beautiful homes on base are reserved for the Generals. I think IF they ever get engaged/married she will leave close to the base and PW will commute or come home on weekends. They will have to have a house that can handle security and up to RF standards.
January 6th, 2009 11:21
I am not sure about them being secretly engaged but I think they have an understanding that is well accepted within the family as to when they will be making this step. I believe that William “proposing” is a formality that will go along with the actual ring and presentation of a tiara. JMO.
January 6th, 2009 11:24
Ked, what’s up w/Ohio? I have drove through there a couple times, but its no Swiss Alps!
January 6th, 2009 13:03
KD,
I do think PW, let’s the world know that he and Kate spend time together while revealing very little else about the nature of their relationship.
Gracie, You rexperiences sound interesting. I don’t see Kate moving around with PW from base to base unless they are married.
Lisa, I don’t think there will be any “secret” engagements. If an engagement comes, it will come with all the fireworks, tiara, ring, press conference, etc.
ME/Chris234, I think PW and KM will see each other on weekends and holidays or other SAF breaks.
Does anyone know how far Shawbury is from Bucklebury?
January 6th, 2009 15:30
hello all,
some of the posts from last week vanished but posters basically came up with 4 theories….
1. an engagement
2. km and pw are just friends now and she’s a good ‘friend of pw and of the family’
3. they’re still in a committed dating rela’p and nothing is new
4. they’re still dating and who knows where it will lead
January 6th, 2009 18:34
Folks they are back in London
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article2102967.ece
January 6th, 2009 18:53
jj,
Thanks
January 6th, 2009 19:25
Just an article showing their crests
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7814430.stm
January 6th, 2009 20:17
All this talk about a possible proposal could just be a ruse for CD and PH. Maybe they are the ones who are getting engaged? It gets so tiring after a while, all the media games!
January 7th, 2009 02:31
Rman,
it is obvious that KM and PW are still seeing each other, but how can you tell just by looking at the pictures that they are getting stronger.
Honestly, I dont think you can really tell that they are getting stronger because to know the status of the relationship between a couple you have to know that couple well(meaning you need to be around them), you cant tell just by looking at pictures of two individuals just walking together(because that’s all they do, they just walk together without holding hands which I dont consider to be something inappropriate) that they are getting stronger.
These articles report that they spent some time in that cabin, but how do we know it is true and not just one more of those fabricated gossips about this couple. I mean we didnt see pictures of them getting inside the cabin.
YOu may be right when it comes to them getting stronger, but you may also be wrong as well because you dont even know them and pictures of some individuals will never tell the truth about their lives. You know what I mean!!
January 7th, 2009 03:54
How can we tell???? Possibly because the press are reporting that they WERE SPOTTED arriving ON A RETURN FLIGHT from Scotland, and that THEY DEBOARDED THE PLANE BEFORE ALL OTHER PASSENGERS INTO WILLIAM’S WAITING CAR ON THE TARMAC. That might be a clue that they were together in Scotland, probably at Birkhall, PROBABLY where they in fact did have dinner at that cabin.
Why is it not conceivable and is unbelievable that during their holiday break they had a romantic dinner on that estate? Why must every single step and breath they take be photographed to be believed???
Christ in heaven deliver me from this Reality Show mentality where cameras have to track potty breaks.
January 7th, 2009 04:02
I was looking on Rex and notice that a bunch of pubs in Berks are boarded up and closed till further notice. Interesting that the “Flying Pig” was one of them since it was that pub Ked mentioned several post ago. I wonder if its the economy?
January 7th, 2009 09:01
LMAO,Guest…If we didn’t see it, it never happened,lol…Did you forget that William and Kate are “just good friends”? LOL..and I am the Easter Bunny!