Prince William’s girlfriend Kate Middleton turns 27 today – and there is speculation her man will make it a double celebration by getting down on one knee.
Bookmakers Ladbrokes has halved its odds to 5/1 on William and Kate announcing their engagement on Friday following a run of money.
The odds of the Prince popping the question at some time in 2009 have also shrunk to 1-2 from 6-4 at William Hill.
The long-term couple spent much of the festive period holidaying at the royal retreat of Birkhall, the Prince of Wales’ home on the Queen’s Balmoral estate in Scotland. The pair reportedly enjoyed a romantic meal in a secluded log cabin in the grounds of the home.
Rupert Adams, from William Hill, said: “A year or so ago the bet was will they ever get married – yes or no? That’s no longer a viable market as far as we’re concerned. It’s now which year will they get engaged.” (via Sky News)
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This has gotten so crazy.they predicted that william and kate would get engaged over their holiday too.
There is a bit of an oddity among the maddness in the press today….There are dozens ofarticles regarding Kate’s birthday today including reputable agencies such as AFP,Press Association and ITV but not a peep from our fav,the Daily Mail. I personally find that odd.
Lisa, very true. DL started this marriage rumor IMO even mentioned how PW wanted this birthday to be special for KM. Not a word from the Sun today either only PW/PH vS foundation. They show PW w/ the blonde in photo, Olivia and Jessica Yeandle.
I think the DM is waiting for the day to pass so they can write a nasty article
I am starting to loose faith again. Looks like it’s always about making better PR for PW. He probably won’t even spend her b-day together like the last two years.
Hello,
Please try to remember what was forecast would happen from July 2007 as an assignment for CH mandarins.
As a priority;
PW’s status and popularity would be enhanced.
KM’s status and popularity would be reduced.
Has and is it happening. Yes.
Was PW party to it ? I sincerely hope not.
Enough said I think.
I still believe that the recent summons to Birkhill was a “sort it out and sort it out quickly ” call and PW I’m sure would react in his usual way;
“My business , I’ll do it as and when I want to ”
There is I think enough evidence recently of “misunderstandings” within the RF and more especially around PW and even PH who may be following his brothers line. It’s their life and they’ll live it.
This is just a speculative view based on things we all hear and see happening.
Off now to Zurich with long flights tomorrow.
Byew
My own personal view is that if PW wants to marry KM, he will do it when least expected, not when the whole world (well, UK at least) is expecting him to. He just comes across as that sort of chap, not wanting to do things bcause he is expected to.
Besides, didnt he make it clear in the past that he doesnt want to get married till he’s at least 28, or even 30? I think he meant what he said.
sorry, just wanted to add
I’m very appreciative of this forum. I made a mistake of popping into the other one for 5 minutes earlier,which made me feel I had to come here for rehab!
Happy Birthday to Kate!
I want an announcement!!!
That’s interesting as one of the last DM articles about Kate and her roller disco event was a complete turn around to the previous articles written about her. Very complementary and positive. The Rex Features GMTV and all of the other publications seem to actually perpetuate Kate’s popularity instead of knocking her down…. Not sure what you are talking about Ked with regards to her being knocked in the press. Recently it has been very positive. As for William well the same old same old continues.
I wasn’t expecting an announcement today & I don’t think there will be anything until December… The wait continues…..
Happy Birthday Kate and may you have many more birthdays. I think she will celebrate with her family, friends and William.
Ked my friend, you do such a great job at painting William to be a monster and make it seem like he’s the big ruler in the relationship, now why you do that is beyond me. I think a announcement will come this year we just have to be patient about it. He could have already pop the question and will make a annoucement when they can.
Here’s a video
http://cbs4.com/entertainment/Prince.William.Kate.2.903967.html
JJ, I don’t think anything will be announced in December but alittle earlier than that.
Katie Nicholl is in that video and she has some nerve talking bout how Kate hates the nickname SHE gave her. I would just love to slap that woman.
Boy that KN is something else. We just have to wait and see what happens but I really can’t stress enough that they should really stop calling her that name. But I guess the guy is right, come on and do this already. LOL, it will come guys.
Kate is 27 today, just how much longer does William want to wait? He must be reminded that if he wants her to give birth to healthy heirs, they need to start sooner than later. She can’t start having children in her 40′s…that’s too old!
It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if after 7 years, the royal family pays Kate to be gone and Wills finds himself a much younger girl to marry and give him heirs to the throne.
Riviera,I would hope that the family has learned from the past that marriages woithout true love tend to fail in a bad way. Besides,I have more faith in Prince William then that.
I think what Ked means is that originally, KM press was stellar. For the first 2 or 3 years, she could not do anything wrong. Then it went to really really low, and now it is on an okay level (at best). This is my impression, too, in particular, when I talk to my relatives in the UK (and sorry, according to them KM is still at an okay level, not more, but also not less). It will take a a little while to bring her back to her old popularity.
I agree with just visiting, probably PW will pop the question when nobody expects him to. He seems to be that sort of guy. And I still think he wants to have the feeling that he has accomplished a few things before he gets married. I can fully understand that, he is not to blame. If KM loves him – and I think she does – then she will be understanding, too.
Oh, and I am convinced both PW and PH are allowed to marry the woman they truly love.
Todays’ PA.
http://tinyurl.com/9dz5gj
Chris234, we are going to see Kate do more and managed well now that William has his own team. Like I said before Kate need to get out there and show people what she is made of and this is the right team to help her do it. That announcement will come and it will be a surprise to us all.
Also yes the Princes will marry their loves. The boys are not with titled women but with regular women. Kate & Chelsy makes them happy and I think that is great.
Did anyone pay attention to the video when they said that Kate rules the root. And Sean said that they are in love. I just wanted to point those things out.
I took note of those comments by Sean but frankly,I don\’t think he knows less about William and Kate\’s relationship then we do,lol…
The Sun has photos of PH going to a club and leaving w/two blondes, and they are making a deal of it. Those blondes are his Spencer cousins, the twins Eliza and ? I think Kitty is the oldest sibling.
Look’s like the youngest Spencer boy was there to. Perhaps the Spencers kids were celebrating PH and PW first charity on their own?
I wonder if they will celebrate Kate’s birthday tonight.
Here is ITN’s video. I wonder when will Kate appear in public tonight or for the announcement?
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090109/tuk-wills-s-kate-turns-27-amid-wedding-t-dba1618_1.html
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it will come very soon.
Rman, it’s everywhere! Like I said, if this is not the direction PW wants to go you would think his minders would have put a stop to it. What I find interesting is the Spencer cousins being in town, they reside in SA and come to UK to visit the Earl. Why would they be attending a party for PH and PW sponsoring vS? Not that it is not important, but we don’t usually see them around unless it’s big events like Diana concert and memorial. Someone is getting a ring either CD or KM!
Perhaps her last single birthday party.
It’s far too late for an engagement announcement today Rman. The moment has passed I think for now. We can now look towards later on in the year… I’m glad I didn’t get too excited although the press are really going nuts! ITN, GMTV, SKY NEWS, CBS even!!! I wonder if she will go out tonight?? I doubt it! I wonder where she is??
CH or St James should really either nip it in the bud or get something out! Ugh waiting and waiting and waiting!
Since it is Kate’s birthday,maybe there is a party tonight at Highgrove or CH and that is why some of William’s relatives are in town. I am not giving up hope until next week:)
Well I’m talking about when we will see her next. I think it will come, we just have to wait and see. JJ, yeah I think they would have put a stop to it but nothing is being done about it so maybe they are preparing something. Yeah, it’s nice to see the Spencer girls out with them. They probably spent New Years at Althorp.
Ya’ know, I think the press goes through this frenzy every year around this time.
I think the Spencers were quite close to the vS. Wasn’t Diana his nanny? I would find it natural that they come to the event, too. JMO.
jj, I am also glad I did not get too excited. I do not think the press is going nuts, though. Every year, at KM’s birthday, they all have an article about her. After all, KM is still their cashcow. Sad, but true.
Last year, KM went out, I think first to a restaurant, then to a fancy bar. Perhaps this year, they are doing the same? If there was a nice party at CH or Highgrove planned, we would know. Again JMO.
I don’t think they was actually going for a announcement on her birthday but the media think that this is the year for it. But I think William will bring us all a surprise this year. 2009 is full of promise. I hope she is having fun on her birthday though and celebrating another year of life.
It was press hype.
There will be no wedding for Pr. William in his twenties. It’s not happening, no matter how much it is written.
Kate is his girlfriend he cares for and loves but William does not want to get married, it is obvious.
You know, I think one of the saddest thing about the media is they make this couples relationship seem to be only about MARRIAGE. It seem to be like is all about “will they? or what year will it be?” but I think there so much more to their relationship other than that. I’m sure they must talk about it and have a plan set but I don’t think marriage is all what their relationship is about.
This singular emphasis on marriage between PW and KM is clearly linked with the high social status of the BRF and PW.
An average guy from an average family in England or the US would not have everyone he dates cast as his future wife, due to his average social status, the lack of public interest in an average guy, and the lack of press coverage.
PW is famous and is a member of a famous family with historical, political, and social value and interest internationally. All the reasons why everyone he dates will come with engagment/marriage pressure and speculation.
I completely understand that PH but what I’m saying is by the looks of it, William & Kate have a deep, meaningful and loving relationship but that is ignored and the main focus in the media is marriage. Now like many of you, I would love to see them marry because the love between them is obvious and they deserve each other but that day will get here when it gets here. I’m glad to see them going on strong and there is lots of good things to come with this couple. His training is not putting a damper on anything.
Yup, I agree with PH 100%. Of course, there is more to a relationship than marriage, but lets face it, there are different rules for a member of a RF, ANY RF really. A girlfriend is a girlfriend, and a fiancee/wife is a fiancee/wife.
Another obligation is to produce an heir. Sounds archaic for the average person, I know, but thats the truth. I read that the Japanese crown princess has been suffering from depression for years, as she “only” had a daughter – and princesses do not count in royal Japan. That poor woman! At least PW will not have this pressure, Britain did very good under its queens.
Yes thank God William is not under that kind of pressure. In Britian a Prince and Princess can become Monarch. But I think William & Kate will have fine children and one of them will get the throne. The royal family in Japan need to change things so she can come out of that depression. Modern royal families need to care about their family members and not pressure them so much because that’s not good for a person’s health.
Chris234 no need to worry, I have a deep feeling Kate is getting to that stage.
I also think that the British press is missing another “Diana”. Someone glamourous, someone good to photograph, blahblah. Nobody in the RF could fill that gap. Tragic really, as the relationship paps-Diana is what killed Diana in the end. And seriously, I doubt KM wants to be another Diana. And certainly PW does not want to have somebody that copies his mother (otherwise he would be a bit sick). Of course, Diana was lovely and all, but KM (or any future wife) wants to be herself and wants to make her own contributions.
It is really just the press. They lost their old cashcow and they are desperately looking for a new one.
It would be nice if she went out, but it looks like she only goes out now is when it is needed. I know that sounds harsh, but it does appear to look that way. Unless the press can’t take photos of her in Berks or she is living somewhere else, she lives the life of a hermit crab. I don’t know how fullfilling that would be.
Gracie I want to see her out too but I think appearences is controlled and it as done wonders for her rep. I wonder if we will see them out this weekend? I’m starting to wonder what they are up to.
I forgot to add: this is why the press is longing for an engagement/marriage and putting so much pressure on the couple. They do not wish them luck or are happy for them. It means MONEY for them.
Well everybody got their hands out these days but do anyone know if William went out with Harry and their cousins? because I didn’t see any pictures of him.
Hello,
I’m not sure who is more disappointed the Swiss newspapers or the GB papers but I’m afraid PW is not getting a good press.
To me it’s been obvious for almost a year that there was a long way to go before PW and KM sorted out their lives and I’m sure that there are many months , even years, before anything is even settled.
Unfortunately, every sighting of them together will spark new expectations and that has been shown over the past few weeks. Whilst KM was in ‘purdah’ the hullabaloo calmed down but as soon as they show their faces the circus starts and our comments here fuel the flames.
I’m sure we do it because we care and are ever hopeful but some of the paps make it as nasty as possible as the more lurid the story the more papers are sold.
The biggest problem for the immediate future is what do we now blog about because obviously there is no point now in pursuing their relationship until we know there is a lasting relationship. As someone mentioned above, a girlfriend is a friend who is female whilst a fiancee is for ever.
Perhaps we should all retire gracefully and preserve our hopes for that distant time when all may be revealed.
As far as the RF (and PW with his PR people) is concerned their biggest problem now is to keep KM and her family onside possibly for several yaers as I am sure there is quite a story behind the history of PW/KM especially since June/July 2007 which could affect PW’s future plans should he decide against KM over the enxt few years.
Please let something happen over the next day or so and I can eat my words, with great relish.
Ked my friend, lets just remain hopeful and this is just January and it can happen at anytime. It’s very obvious that we care about these people and i’m sure they appreciate it. Keep positive thoughts.
A very Happy Birthday to Kate M. and Gracie, that was a nice thing to do by leaving her a birthday message as I’m sure she appreciates the support of her public.
I am still hoping on a Tuesday the 13th announcement, but even if it doesn’t come until St. Valentine’s Day, that’s no problem — I’ll just move a space heater next to the lawnchair or better yet, sit in the Taurus in the garage with the motor running to keep warm.
Since there was no engagement announced today, I’m going to open up the Cook’s Grand Reserve in honour of KM’s birthday instead.
To Kate, and her pokey Prince. L’chaim!
Chris234,
Thanks!
Alsgal,
Can I have some, please?
Ked, I wonder how Steven feels about your saying that the blog should be closed cause there is nothing to talk about? The Spencer twins are beautiful, so is Kitty the older sister who IMO resemble Diana. The Spencer’s women have always been lauded for their beauty.
Hi Rman,
PW’s life over the next couple of years is going to be so full of Engineering,Computers, aerodynamics,navigation and man management under extreme pressure.
His mind will need to be 100% on his work and without that commitment his, his crew’s and other colleagues lives are on the line.
I have three friends from University who obtained flying commissions directly from University Squadron four and a half years ago and although I know two are now on operational and squadron flying the other is still under training albeit in a different discipline.
With this pressure he will not have time to commit to KM in the way she deserves so don’t be surprised if a gradual fade away occurs initially with a hopeful reunion a few years down the line always remembering that in KM he has the best friend he will ever have.
I’m not ruling out an eventual reunion but with PW’s concentration on his RAF career over these years think of what KM’s life is going to be throughout this time. She will experience loneliness , despair and will need to have something to fulfil her life. She may even think that enough is enough and find someone who would cherish her but I do believe she is so in love with PW that she may just suffer in silence.
Early start later this am so its 5 or 6 hours sleep then a long day tomorrow.
For now. Bye
Ked,
Thanks for those thoughtful comments! I see that as one very possible option, especially now that no pre-RAF engagment is forthcoming. So onto plan B — the scenario you paint is a goof possibility.
Enjoy your trip!
I meant a “good possibility.”
Alsgal, make sure you keep the windows of the Taurus open.
Ked, you keep talking about some decision that was made in June/July 2007 but you have not been specific. Why?
I still have my own ideas about their relationship. I think it has been a lot more complicated than people think. To that extent, I agree with you. However, my ideas about their relationship show PW in a very bad light, and I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to folks I don’t know and never had any dealings with. So, for right now, I go with the flow and expect an engagement down the road a ways.
Alsgal, I am laughing so hard, your posts are hilarious!
otherwise…in the past year, how many days altogether has she been in pw’s company? not very many….
….it’s true, she stands to experience loneliness and despair in the days ahead while pw is engrossed in his training and not focused on her….she’s already experienced many days alone all along….for such a beautiful woman to be in this situation borders on tragic
surely everyone wants her to lead a happy and fullfilling life, and she may never find this with pw….frankly, pw does not seem mature enough to take on the emotional and psychological responsibilities of a truly committed relationship…and as some have posted on here, he is also under the influence of the rf’s legacy of a casual attitude toward commitment….
so….
Marriage is what counts in these matters.
No matter the years of dating, no matter the years of being a mistress, in the end a person is only official with marriage.
Kate and William have not seen each other very much this year. It was also in a article about her mother, it was quoted as one of the reasons her mother was worried also. William and Kate had not spent much time together this year.
Kate is from a middleclass family who wants this marriage very much for her. I am not sure she will ever get it, but probably not I would say.
Ked, I know that already. William has to focus on his training but this DOES NOT mean that his relationship is on one leg and and close to ending. You see this is what I’m talking about, people think just because he is continuing his training that must mean his relationship is shot. That is the biggest misunderstanding on these blogs and that’s why the media and some members of the public dance on that girl’s tonsils is because they think that way. I do not believe William is doing Kate wrong and they must have talked about this and she obviously support him and his career. The couple just got back from a romantic trip for the holidays and Kate is obviuosly not going anywhere. I just don’t believe everything is doom for this couple and I’m sure Kate along with everyone else is giving him all the support he needs to have a successful career. We don’t know if he gave her that big surprise before he sets off. Guys you can’t keep thinking that everything is doom for this couple or down hill. That’s not right.
Sorry if I sound angry but I can’t help it. William & kate has a lot of challenges ahead of them but they always seem to pull through. It’s true that many women wouldn’t be patient like Kate but it seems like the only thing that keep her by his side is love and I think William makes sure that she is by his side. That alone speak folumes.
“dance on the girl’s tonsils” — that is quite an image! WOW!
Gwencat,
I am going to ask one more time, can I have a glass of Cook’s Grand Reserve?
Rman
I agree. I don’t think that marriage is the be all and end all in this situation. We would all love to see one! I would fly home just to line the streets but I think that the time that these two have spent together is also important and shouldn’t be undermined. Just because Kate is from a middleclass family doesn’t necessarily mean that she is dying to get married. I know plenty of middleclass individuals who never want to get married. We assume she wants to get married. But regardless I think they are fine and as I have said many times before it will either happen or not. I choose to believe that Kate isn’t the pathetic hanger on type that people make her out to be. After 7 years you would think that PW would have had enough sense to have been able to have worked that out. Onwards to the latter part of 09!
PH, after I wrote “dance on the girl’s tonsils” I laughed. I want some of that Cook’s Grand Reserve too.
Rman,
LOL! I give it to you for originality, we needed a little spark around here. LOL!
LOL!I think we can all use a glass of the Cook’s Grand Reserve.: )
JJ, I totally agree.
“the time that these two have spent together is also important and shouldn’t be undermined.”
That’s exactually what I’m saying. JJ, Kate may come be a beautiful woman but I get the feeling that she is very tough not soft. I think she understands how The Monarchy works and realizes that she she is the companion of a future King and there are things he has to do in order to prepare for that job. William, that lucky dog has found his Queen.
Rman,
I am with you all of the way. I have said it before that I think that William and Kate are soulmates. I think that they are in love and will get engaged in the near future. I thought about how the media played this birthday. It put these two people in a no win situation. William is already known to be stubborn and will not do something if pushed to do it. Secondly,there is nothing abnormal about people thinking of engagements around special days. (whether it be birthday, Christmas etc.) However, the coverage was way over the top. In a time when no one wants to be scooped everyone went wild. Instead of this couple having an enjoyable celebration, everyone is following each word written about them. I am there too. I wonder if 1. They have decided to marry and not said anything about plans. 2. Will tell the world soon. 3. are together and just enjoying each other. I do wonder….Where they are? Did the Middletons get with William’s Dad and Stepmom? The main thing in everything is are they loving each other and are they people around them giving them support?
I do hope they are having a good time being together. In the end it is how they feel about each other and if they are good to each other.
That’s right Kat, right now everything is being kept on a hushed level. I look forward to this year and it’s full of promise. They got us excited last year and gave us some surprises that’s why I look forward to this year. I think the couple knows that we are rooting for them.
I hope no one minds, but I’d like to correct something that was stated by another poster.
Kate Middleton’s mother has never been quoted by any newspaper article as saying that William has hardly seen Kate in 2008.
There was an article in the Telegraph that claims Mrs. Middleton said something about William and Kate’s relationship, but that article did not mention William and Kate or their relationship at all, not even one time.
Here’s the link to the Telegraph article, in case some people didn’t read it:
http://tinyurl.com/57qrmx
There was also an article in the Daily Mail that quoted a ‘friend’ and a ‘source’ as saying that Carole Middleton said some things to the ‘friend’.
The article in the Daily Mail was different from the article in the Telegraph.
Cont’d
It didn’t claim that Mrs. Middleton spoke to a journalist, but the DM article also didn’t claim Mrs. Middleton spoke to anyone with a NAME.
Also, the DM article didn’t say that Carole Middleton said Wills didn’t see Kate much. So where did that idea come from?
Here’s the DM article:
http://tinyurl.com/8pnhz5
My point is that misinformation is often spoken as if it is established fact. Then people read this misinformation, and get confused.
Also, someone commented that “William hasn’t seen Kate much this year”. My question is, “How would any of us know that?”
William and Kate don’t live their lives on television or a movie screen, and they don’t have CCTV cameras in their vehicles.
We have no way of knowing when they were together and when they weren’t.
We can assume and speculate as much as we like, but I think it’s important that we don’t lose sight of the fact that our assumptions are based on a huge lack of information.
The DM is reporting that the Thames Valley Police are not going to take action against KM for allegedly talking on a cellphone while driving. It’s sort of buried in another article on how PH’s Spencer cousing looks like his gf.
ML thank you for pointing that out. I always knew that whole thing was just made up. We all know that those two see a lot of each other, that’s why I don’t pay any attention to what people say about that. Phoebe thanks for letting us know that. It seems like the team may be working for Kate behind the scenes and they knew that she did not brake the law.
So Kate’s birthday came and went and the bookies made a bundle,lol….Did we really think they would announce it today? I still think there is a small window for an announcement but that window is closing rapidly.
I believe from what my eyes see,that William and Kate are together and happy in their relationship. They are conducting things the way it works best for them. Whether that means they marry soon or wait longer remains to be seen. It is entirely possible that neither William or Kate are ready for or want the responsibility that their marriage will bring at this point in their lives. When given the chance to put off royality for the military,William chose the Military. That is quite telling. Everyone assumes Kate is hot for the ring and the tiara. Maybe she is not. Maybe she loves her man and knows what life with him will bring,good and bad,and is willing to accept and embrace it,but not now. We should never forget how dramatically Kate’s life will change once she exits that church on William’s arm.
However they decide to go about thing,I wish them all the luck and happiness. They both deserve it and earned it as well.
That’s a very nice and true comment Lisa. It’s obvious that Kate is supporting him and standing by him through this. I think it’s safe to say Lisa that we are seeing true love between them and I think that is something Diana wanted for her boys. She knew that is what they will need in order for them to carry on the responsibilities of the Monarchy. It is said that love will make you feel like you can do anything and even conquer the world.
Lisa what you said was excellent, and so true!
I totally agree.
Rman I didn’t see your comment before posted mine or else I would’ve said this in my other post;, but what you said was very nice and also very true.
SUN Dec 22 08— and insists she is “not bothered” Wills has not proposed after their six-year romance.
But last night there were claims that Carole, 58, is less relaxed.
Wills and Kate, both 26, have not seen much of each other recently — but they did get away last weekend to a shoot in Norfolk.
Well The National Ledger is trying to straighten things out.
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272624524.shtml
The National Ledger does very little to clarify the situation between PW and KM. Are you just joking?
My guess: an engagement will be announced around christmas 09/10 with a late-summer wedding in 2010. Why? ´Cause William said before, he doesn´t want to get married before he´s hitting at least 28. next year around this time, he´ll still be 27 but at the time of the wedding (well my guessed-wedding actually…) he´ll be 28.
He is going to be the heir to throne – it wouldn´t be good for his image to say something like that in an interview and than do something else.
Also: Yes, they´ve been together for what seems like an eternity – but they´re still very young. William is a divorced kid whose mother was way too young when she got hitched he might have taken some wisdom out of that.And not to forget Kate: Once she´s officially engaged her life like she knows it will be over and there is no going back. I´m 26, if i would be that high profile in love i´d be moRe than glad to wait as long as possible. In fact, if i were her i wouldn´t get married to PW until i want to have babies!
\”Once she´s officially engaged her life like she knows it will be over and there is no going back. I´m 26, if i would be that high profile in love i´d be moRe than glad to wait as long as possible. In fact, if i were her i wouldn´t get married to PW until i want to have babies!\”
These words may be the closest to the truth as far as William and Kates relationship/future goes without actually knowing for sure!
I am really starting to believe neither one of them is anxious to be fulltime royals.
Here is a very good video of Kate Middlton, after the Oil of Olay advertisement. They have good footage of the couple. They have her age down as 29 years, clearly a mistake.
http://news.sawf.org/Gossip/55913.aspx
Yes PH, I was just pointing out that the tabs are at it again. These two can be unofficially engaged but once they make it official, it’s going to be something else. Are they ready for that? Maybe but I think they are focusing on his training at the moment.
William has been photographed at the Middleton’s home. Apparently he spent the night there last night for Kate’s birthday. Here’s the link:
http://tinyurl.com/8r9otf
Don’t know if it’s posted already but KN has an article on PW staying at KM house on her b-day. There are photos on DM site. Just pictures of KM house and PW car in driveway. Someone must have been given access to get that close to the Midd home. The Sun does not have an article posted about it yet. Lots of cars in driveway though. Security slept down the road to leave KM alone w/PW while staying at the home.
ML, Gracie thanks for letting us know. I just can’t help but smile when I hear about these two. If it’s true that Kate wasn’t doing so well, I do hope she gets better. William is a very throughtful and caring towards her.
So the status Quo continues. I think either Ch or St Jp is deliberately leaking things. Nothing wrong with that. It nice that he spent the night & did something normal.
KN said that William & Kate have new puppies for Christmas. She has a old picture of the couple on a shoot at Sandringham. I don’t know if that is true or not. If it is then I guess she didn’t have a current picture to match the story or she could have made it up.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1111840/Pedigree-chums-Wills-Kate.html
Sorry JJ, I didn’t see your comment but do you really think they is leaking this stuff? because if that’s so, I’d find that very interesting.
No photogs have gotten near KM house for a while except for the cell phone pics. The plates on these cars are not even blurred out! Either these cars don’t belong to PW and his security of maybe they were leaked possibly by someone in the RF. If that’s the case it was done for a reason. One, Ked is correct and this is more of make PW look good before he leaves and help KM rep a little and then they will say they tried but it did not work. Two, they are preparing the public for an engagement and PW did it at the Midds house. Perhaps the party at the Troub on 1/8 for vS was also a celebration for KM and PW hence the Spencer twins appearance.
Why would PW give KM a puppy unless she has her own place and why would she give him one when he can’t take care of it cause he will be training?
Odd too that Sun is not reporting of the b-day sleepover as both DM and Sun have had the same engagement, log cabin getaway stories. Perhaps the Sun either knows its not true or they have a bigger story coming out for Sunday.
PW Sandringham dog is aging, its a labrador that accompanies him during his shoots. The Windsor dogs have trainers.
There is a photo of PW audi with plates cleary visible (same as the one in KM house) at a Polo outing where PW, PH and KM are pictured.
Perhaps PW allowed his PR guy to have these positive leaks to appear in behalf of poor Prince Harry who is in deep trouble. Kinda like a cover up to divert attention. Not a good way to start the year, poor guy.
Gracie, I don’t know but this all is getting interesting. But I don’t think William would do what Ked said, I mean the boy has a heart and he just wouldn’t do that. I didn’t like that Ked said something like that but Ked do like to mess with us from time to time.
I mean even Paris Hilton talking stunning wonders about Kate. LOL
Yes, it’s getting weird. Now they have thrown Burrell into the mix of RF stories! I thought all the stories had died down cause on KM d-day there was nothing. So when is PW suppose to leave for RAF next week or end of month?
I’m happy Will spent Kate’s birthday with her
However, have you guys heard about the Harry scandal?! It’s time to Google
its all over, NOTW has the exclusive video of Harry
plus the lengthy articles may be found everywhere.
I did not watch the video, but I wonder if he will be kicked out or not allowed to do his pilot training? This is from three years ago and it comes out now, is this paving the way for him to marry CD? I can’t imagine that PH would want to hurt his reputation in the army. Yet, they did nothing w/PW Chinook incident so who knows. Someone must not want PH to do pilot training cause why else would this come out now before he is due to leave and could it effect PW military career too?
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It sounds very feasible that the stories about the sleep over and the dogs were leaked to deflect away from the Prince Harry stories. It’s very unfortunate. Harry seemed to go through a couple of years ago a very rebellious stage with the nazi thing and now this which was around the same time. I’m hoping he has cleaned up his act and that the holding babies and smiling for the camera isn’t all an act to cover up his sometimes sinister behavior. I love both of the boys but sometimes Harry’s behavior goes a bit too far….. IMO
JJ, I thought the same thing too. Perhaps all the KM and PW engagement talk was just part of the ploy to deflect from PH. I also think this might be why PW and PH were given their own offices so soon. I think PC can’t afford to have their mistakes tarnish his becoming King and who could blame him. PW and PH are old enough to have deal w/their mess-ups. My question is, is anything the RF do genuine or is everything just a cover up for something else they have done? If I was KM family I would not like being used to help sell the Windsor image. If that’s what they are indeed doing.
Very interesting developments on the PW/KM front. Personally, I think PW decided to go more high-profile to save the Middletons any more negative press.
As far as the PH story, I don’t excuse what he did, but it is highly suspicious that this is coming out now. I think there is someone in the army that resents PH’s training as a pilot, for whatever reason. Perhaps they think he didn’t get in on his own merits.
I AGREE – and I am afraid that KM nearly perfect family – how does the sleep over birthday article in the DM call them – closely nit family who don’t talk about the multiple times PW has been there or sleeps there. I hope the Windsors do not use this family to cover their gaffes. Period.
MapleLeaf, I have read what you said in the “Return from Scotland …” article regarding people’s assumptions. I do agree that the members of all these sites assume a great deal. But by the very same token you and many others assume a great deal yourselves. Many, in fact take great liberties in their assumptions. Even the extent to which some are presuming the friendship between Prince William and Miss Middleton exists.
What some may see as proof of one thing… others see as symptomatic of something else altogether (and I will say that some surprisingly astute observations have been made).
It is fine to wish good things for others. But considering that no one here actually knows the individuals, perhaps it would be wiser to wish them happiness on their own individual terms and not in the context of a relationship that would be more desirable (for whatever) reasons to their respective fans.
I stand by what I said in my very first post… whether the truth of it is obvious to some or not yet.
-Karagiosis
PH there are many theories rising in the royal sites about Harry’s sillyness. I feel really sorry for this bloke. OT, you may see many Arab and Pakistani pist off comments now or very soon.
I will add that in the process of trying to understand “what is happening”, Prince William is often painted in less than flattering colours due to what people think is his indecision. Decisions are made… have been made. And He, is not about to make public gestures for the sake of pacifying frustrated onlookers. When necessary, word gets out in other ways. It always has done.
karagiosis, I don’t think anyone on hear is trying to offend you but you have to understand that we do get tierd of people talking about a bunch of non-sense everynow and then. We know that everything is fine between those two, now some people don’t like that but that’s tough. Guys I don’t think the royals are using The Middleton’s at all. It’s bad that Harry got himself into this but he’s not a kid anymore, he need to handle this as an adult. I think the leaks show that everything is going good for William & Kate but I think the team was put together quickly so they can handle this thing with Harry.
In the Daily Mail article a senior Courtier is quoted:
“But despite continued speculation that the Prince is about to pop the question, a senior courtier told The Mail on Sunday he has no plans to propose, saying: ‘There’s no movement on that front; nothing’s happening at all.’
I don’t believe the RF are using the Middletons. I don’t think they would let themselves be used.
pualoa, I agree I don’t the Middletons would allow that and William wouldn’t do that. Also everyone is keeping a hush on the couple I don’t think they would leak anything so they would say that.
I try to keep my assumptions current with what I see in photos and the real actions of William and Kate; I don’t base my assumptions on wishful thinking or elaborately concocted theories. William spent the night at the Middleton’s home for Kate’ s birthday, his car was photographed at the Middleton home.
If I hadn’t seen the photos and verified the license plate number in the photos by comparing it to an existing 2008 pic that shows Prince William’s license plate, I wouldn’t have believed it. IMO photographic proof ALWAYS speaks louder than words.
The fact that Wills spent the night at the Middleton home just a few days after returning from a holiday in Scotland together with Kate – a holiday with no less than Wills’ father and stepmum – shows that William and Kate are definitely together, and they’re behaving the way a couple in a relationship behaves and doing the things a couple in a relationship does.
It is what it is.
Whether they stay together is up to them, but the fact that they are together has been made extremely plain by William himself.
I understand that you will stand by your statements, but I have the feeling you’ll still be standing by them in 2010 and in 2011, and Wills and Kate will still be together.
I can’t predict that, of course, because I have no way of knowing for sure; but that’s my guess based on the current actions of the couple.
Happiest New Year to you too MapleLeaf!
I hope you’ll forgive me if my answer is too brief… I only have a moment to answer right now.
It is very nice that through the convenience of the world wide web (
) we are able to search for nearly anything and draw our own conclusions on nearly everything.
A photo may, under the right conditions be analysed correctly but that is assuming that one has the necessary resources to be able to correctly understand the context of it.
Since people are not privy to the nature of their recent visits it would be speculative at best, to say they are as fine as ever.
To be clear, I haven’t made any assumptions and I’ve mainly reserved my opinions on the matter. If I were stating an opinion or suggesting a theory about anything, I would make a point of phrasing it in the appropriate manner.
-Karagiosis
First, let me comment on Harry. The remark was made 3 years ago. During that time he had made some mistakes. As one ages, one tends to grow up and attitudes and actions change. Maturity gains tolerence for others. It seems through his charities he has certainly mellowed. IMO Secondly about William- No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. From where I sit something has changed in the last couple of months-First they are in the public eye, then they are not, now they are. I think that right now they are showing a closeness that they haven’t shown the public. By the way, Karagiosis, you do make me think and the more that I try to see things your way, the more I do see a couple in a loving relationship. I can’t for the life of me understand why they would spend 6 days in Scotland if they are not still together. William spent the night at Kate’s house for her birthday. This is the first time in a while that they have been together for that day. During this time. they have shown a closeness. I only hope that they will continue to grow as a couple.
Nice to see Kate had William with her on her birthday. Love the dog story.
All the rest is just silliness and I am to tired to even get into it.
Kat, you took the words right out of my mouth. William & Kate are showing lots of closeness and just last year they took things to new heights. After seeing the bad things that happened to his parents marriage, it’s good to see him in the same loving relationship for nearly seven years. You can just tell that they will support the Monarchy very well and they will make a great team. Even though William will be away on training, I get the feeling that Kate won’t be too far from his mind.
I know what you mean Lisa.
The Palace Courtier has spoken, “a senior courtier told The Mail on Sunday he has no plans to propose, saying: ‘There’s no movement on that front; nothing’s happening at all.’”
William is leaving and no proposal has happened, the window is about to close and her mother knew it months ago, that is why she made those uncharacteristic plays in the press. She knows if he leaves without proposing the chances of Kate ever getting one is very slim.
Very slim.
It is interesting that William and Kate have made appearances at both their parents homes in a weeks time together. Those pictures on the DM site are quite high quality and don\’t appear rushed or taken from very far away.
Note to Katie Nicholl…do you really think we believe that a “senior courtier” would give your sorry butt the time of day much less a quote regarding the future wedding plans of Prince William. Nice try, though.
Hogwash!
No matter how much publicity the relationship gets, he is still not proposing.
Yes, the senior courtier put that message out there for a reason and so far I’d say it’s correct because the Palace has not announced anything.
My final thought on this article for you to consider….
In one paragraph the article quotes a “senior courtier”, who alledgly discusses intimate details of Prince Williams private life,I.E, his plans to get engaged….
Then later, after the article talks about comments and or feelings of Carole Middleton regarding Kate not getting engaged, the article states that a spokesperson for Prince William declined comment. helloooooo….LOL…Which is it? More holes then swiss cheese.
Good night all
Still no engagement has occurred. I’d go with the Courtier and William.
Lisa, lol, thank you for pointing that out. No one knows what William have up his sleeve and it is interesting that they have been to Birkhall and then he was at her house. I know he was there to celebrate her birthday but still it looks interesting. Nothing will announced until they are ready for it to be announced but that does not mean that she didn’t get the ring. I just had to point that out. We just have to remain patient.
Belated happy Birthday to you KM:) I wish all your hapiness to be fullfill.:) God bless
This article doesn’t mean anything to me. All we see is his car at her house. It does not mean that they are about to get engaged or anything. All it means is that the paps decided that there was a high chance that she would be with her family on her birthday and stayed there hoping to get a picture, which they did. It hardly counts as progression within their relationship, does it? He has stayed there many times before and we have had occasional articles, this is just the first photo.
pualoa, I don’t understand the point you keep trying to make about the lack of an engagement announcement.
I don’t see what difference it makes that Wills and Kate haven’t announced an engagement. They’re in a relationship, and that’s good enough. If they’re not engaged, so what?
The whole “they must get engaged or else” idea is just rubbish.
That is exactly how I feel. There is no difference as they have not announced an engagement and why should they if they do not want to?
ML you are so right when you said,
“The whole “they must get engaged or else” idea is just rubbish.”
That is what make everything so confusing and why horrible things are written about this woman is because they think all this woman wants is a ring and since she is not getting it, there must be something wrong with her. People must stop thinking that way and stop the madness.
Black Audi parked in the driveway, the Pink Mustang parked on the side street.
Unless my Handsome James was simply spending the evening giving PW a few helpful sartorial fashion tips for his pet squirrel, I’d say it’s pretty obvious that William was there in Bucklebury to help Kate celebrate her birthday in a big, or at least medium-sized and yet nothing to be ashamed of, way.
Actions speak louder than words and PW has over the past few weeks made it obvious just how he feels about Miss Middleton. It seems as if he wants the world to know as well.
William, we can hear you loud and clear.
So, maybe no wedding for now, and that’s OK if both are comfortable with that. However, we could also take the words of an unnamed “Senior Courtier” with a grain of salt, as for all we know, he might be deliberately issuing an engagement denial in order to throw everyone off guard.
Perhaps the friends of PW and KM are also in on it, and are telling the journos there are no plans, when in fact, there are many.
Still hoping to see some white taffeta later this summer, though.
Just a small correction to my last post : I meant to write ‘indecisiveness’ not indecision.
Sounds to me like the “senior courtier” is a little frustrated and would just like him to get on with it.