Queen wants Credit Crunch Wedding for William & Kate
The Queen has let slip that Prince William and girlfriend Kate Middleton will have a “credit crunch” wedding if they decide to tie the knot.
A senior palace source told the News of the World Her Majesty is “mindful” of the misery caused across the nation by economic meltdown.
And she believes a lavish marriage celebration like Charles and Diana’s, which ran to millions, would not go down well with her struggling subjects.
The aide said: “The Queen knows how the nation is really suffering. A big lavish ceremony would send out all the wrong messages. The last thing she would want is to rub people’s noses in it by spending a fortune.”
“She has made it clear that the massive royal weddings of the past are just that, of the past.” (via News of the World)
January 25th, 2009 07:14
Whilst a big fan of William and Kate; and not a prude I think the sooner they tie the knot the better. Technically they are married. Let’s leave the grotesque weddings to the footballers.
I think a royal wedding would life the morale of the country.
Get on with it Wills and Kate
January 25th, 2009 08:15
hmmm…credit crunch wedding? I wonder what exactly that would mean? The bride would have to make her own favors? pigs in a blanket for appetizers? The guest will do the Macarena and chicken dance in lieu of an orchestra? Maybe they could consider a trolly to transport the wedding party to the church instead of the royal carriage?
Whatever, just BRING IT ON!
January 25th, 2009 09:13
Oh the Queen just “happened” to say this right now. Folks, we may soon get what we have been waiting for.
I remember the wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana. While the economy was not as bad, it was still a difficult time with high unemployment and ethnic strife. The wedding was seen a well to heal the nation. So, I doubt a credit crunch wedding would be all that toned down. Besides, all that spending will help the economy.
January 25th, 2009 09:19
Although it is not a good reason to get married if you are not ready,a royal wedding would surely help the economy with tourism,food and trinket sales etc. Not to mention a morale boost
January 25th, 2009 10:10
Lisa I love it!! Bring it on indeed!
January 25th, 2009 10:51
Hello,
I still think that unless PW leaves the RAF either before he starts his S and R training in August at RAF Valley, or during the next 18 month training period he will see out the additional 3 years as an operational S and R helicopter pilot.
There is a filial rivalry between him and PH which by reason of his armed service PH is winning hands down. (Note PH has two medals on his uniform to PW’s one, excluding the Garter of course)
Whilst there is this distinction between them PW feels he has something to prove in the same way as the Black Prince in the Midle Ages (he couldnt be King but proved himself the better warrior).
As PH continues his career so will PW and the distraction of a wife and inevitable family would detract from his aim and may even become a barrier between himself and KM.
Think of how he would feel if PH becomes the golden flyboy and he is left opening Hospitals and escorting his father as PofW or KIng at the June Birthday Parade.
Someone would be blamed. Guess who?
Unless he leaves the RAF for any reason then early 2014 for an engagement with the late spring or summer wedding is the best estimate but as soon as he decides that and KM is given instruction on Royal duties the better or;
She could walk too.
January 25th, 2009 19:37
Wasn’t it reported that William wanted to be married at Windsor. In comparsion to Charles and Diana’s wedding, that would be a credit crunch wedding. Maybe he will get his way.
January 26th, 2009 05:45
i think we should wait for the announcement of the engagement before we discuss the wedding of wills and kate.
January 26th, 2009 06:39
Hello,
Bluefire may well be correct.
I hear that over the past two/three weeks there has been huge manoeuvrings in the PW/KM saga with several scenarios being
deliberated.
These could be the basis of the several stories that have suddenly surfaced during the last few days but perhaps nothing, absolutely nothing can be ruled out especially following the concern that the PH/CD situation has generated.
We can but wonder if there is any connection in both events?
Hope we hear more before next weekend when more news may be forthcoming.
January 26th, 2009 07:50
Ked, so is CH concerned because KM/PW have ended it to or is it that the CD/PH breakup put more spotlight on “Waitey Katey?” Perhaps, PH is in love w/KM and plans to marry her now or is it PM?
January 26th, 2009 07:54
gracie, I think Kate will face more media attention now that Chelsy is out of the picture but if she continues to fly under the radar all they can do it make the crap up,which,of course they will do
.
ked will you please share a bit more of what you have heard,such as what the few scenarios are?
I wonder if the alleged comments by HM have something to do with what ked is referring to?
January 26th, 2009 08:36
Ked, please elaborate on the “rumblings” you mention. Is this another media trick and PH has left for Iraq or somewhere? I hope CH realise that can’t be duplicated or atleast not the same way they used last time. The press is so dismayed w/CD & PH breakup and the claws are out for KM. Maybe this is what the RF wants or PW too, forces KM to end it?
January 26th, 2009 09:01
gracie don’t get too excited. Everything is fine. We need to not make this breakup about William and Kate.
as far as C/H go, I was dissappointed the Chelsy chose to present herself the way she did for the photographers at school today. She should have walked to class with her head high and left the entourage, the giggles and the fake tanning crap behind.
January 26th, 2009 09:04
Chelsy walking to university today…
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/3228780934_a6498d4286.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3228780936_2d80e522ba.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3228780940_d29460fe83.jpg?v=0
She looks awful. How can she possibly think she looks good…she looks like a WAG developing skin cancer…
January 26th, 2009 09:07
So will this be a good time for PW to dump KM? I sure hope not considering all the love-up articles on the pair as of late. If this is the intention, then PW people should have put an end to all the Houghton w/KM stories. It will make PW look very bad to end it after all the effort they put into showing his plates leaving KM house for her b-day. Atleast PH does not have all these romance stories out, right before he and CD end it.
January 26th, 2009 09:12
gracie,William is not dumping Kate. In fact I think by the middle of Feb we will have the announcement. Sit tight.
January 26th, 2009 10:33
Dang it, Jane, I had my heart set an an exact recreation of the Jordan/Pete Andre nuptials at Highclere Castle, replete with a white horse drawn carriage covered in Pepto Bismol pink roses and enough ice sculpture at the reception to put the entire theory of global warming into doubt.
A big wedding would help the economy, but extravagant displays of weatlth at this particular time would not help the Royals. I think the lovebirds have been asked to postpone things for a year or two.
Kate can keep herself busy and seems to have no problem waiting. William, who is already getting plenty of erm, marital privilege, will surely be happy to go along.
January 26th, 2009 11:47
alsgal…Are you english? If not, how comes you know about Jordan/Peter Andre?
Lisa…What you said about Chelsy presenting herself to the photographers like that…..yes I do forsee her bio being published within the next 18 months. Then we will have to sit back and see who plays her in the mini-series.
I apologise for my cynicism, but I be CH is on tenderhooks as to how this is going to pan out.
January 26th, 2009 12:06
Hale, I agree about Chelsy’s behaviour. She was definitely hamming it up for the photographers.
I hope to God Harry can find a lady with the maturity and class needed to handle the press correctly.
January 26th, 2009 12:20
I really hope Chelsy does not sell out for a book deal. Personally, I don’t think she will. I don’t feel she is driven by money as her family has plenty. I think she is just a free spirited party girl who is not ready or willing to mold herself into what the RF would want her to.
January 26th, 2009 12:22
Great news about William & Kate will come soon or later but don’t try to mix up their relationship with Harry & Chelsy’s.
January 26th, 2009 12:26
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/26/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main4753111.shtml
January 26th, 2009 12:29
right on,Rman!
One additional thought…I wonder if Chelsy was asked to sign some kind of confidentiality agreement before the breakup was announced or during the relationship once it reached the “serious” point? If not, whew…the stuff she must know. And that includes details of William and Kate’s relationship too…very scary stuff, indeed.
January 26th, 2009 12:47
Hale, no I’m not English — I’m Scotch-Romanian with a bit of Venezuelan in me, but only on every other Saturday evening.;)
Highly doubt Chelsy would sell out — she’s too klassy with a capital K for that sort of thing, as is Kate.
But it does go to show that happy pics by the pool, attending royal family birthdays, and working in a royally approved of job aren’t necessarily a good indication that all is well in Romanceland.
January 26th, 2009 12:50
Lisa, I would imagine CD would have to sign something. It was not to long ago I read the Queen was making staff sign confidentiality agreements too. I hope they have learned their lessons from insiders who have made a penny writing tell all, like Burrell. Those photos of her puffing away at her ciggie w/her mom, she looked pissed. That was before the news broke and if PH did do the breaking which I am assuming he did, she was none to pleased. She seems to have gathered her composure for classes at Leed’s today. You know the saying “there’s nothing like a woman scorned’, I believe that to be very true. Although some of her friends seem to be talking to the press and that will not help CD and her family in the long run.
January 26th, 2009 12:57
Alsgal, I agree I don’t think CD would sell out, but her friends are doing it for her. They should be advised to put a zip in it, IMO. So true, that the photos don’t mean nada and have to be judged w/a skeptical eye. Suppose PH runs off w/KM? Can you imagine what the press would do?
January 26th, 2009 12:59
gracie, I keep reading all these who dumped who comments and I personally find them disturbing. One thing I have learned in my life is that it takes two to make a relationship and it takes two to break it. Usually a combination of things occur that contribute to the end of a relationship. Looking at this from an outsiders view, it would be logical to assume that the distance and long separations would contribute to things,especially because these two are in the height of their youth driven party phase. I also think as I have stated in the past that Chelsy would not be willing to adjust her lifestyle and career goals to fit into the dutchess mode as would be required if her relationship with Harry would move into the next phase. Finally and probably the last nail in the coffin was the abundance of pictures leaked by Chelsy’s friends all over the internet of her in less then flattering and sometimes suggestive situations. The mere fact that she failed to nip that in the bud right away tells me she did not value the importance of descretion in a relationship with a senior royal like Harry.
January 26th, 2009 13:06
Chelsy looks very tanned and putting on a brave face for the media.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1127222/Smiling-Chelsy-Davy-emerges-time-split-Prince-Harry.html
January 26th, 2009 13:18
Rman,I don’t care for those pictures at all. I wish she would have chosen a more low key approach. JMO. Some pictures she is giggleing/smiling others she is scowling. A nice happy medium would be much much better.
January 26th, 2009 13:19
I think we will see more pictures and tabloid stories courtesy of chelsy’s so called friends real soon.
January 26th, 2009 13:21
I don’t doubt that, maddie. I just hope it doesn’t go too far…
January 26th, 2009 13:36
It would appear nothing communicates Breakup faster than fake tan smeared across one’s mug: think Kate after PW in April 2007, Pippa after JJ, Gordon Ramsay arriving at LAX (dear God! ) and now Chelsy. She almost really didn’t need to bother mentioning it on FB, did she? The St. Tropez said it for her.
That said, I’m sad to hear that they are over, as she and Harry seemed well-matched.
But something tells me me don’t have to worry about W&K, because Kate has got the tenacity to weather anything, and I do mean anything, that William tosses her way.
January 26th, 2009 13:41
LOL
January 26th, 2009 13:52
PH and C was the preliminary break, to the main attraction of Prince William’s true status with Ms. Middleton which is about to be revealed.
The tremor was Harry’s news, but the earthquake is about to hit the headines, with long waiting Kate.
Many yet untold events have gone on behind the scenes with the main attraction in the youthful house of W.
January 26th, 2009 13:53
Alsgal, very funny!!!! Some on the other site think it’s natural tan. I am not sure what it is exactly, but it’s not natural. Others have compared her to “Oompa Loompa’s” from Willy Wonka. She’s gonna die when she looks at herself in the mags. As if the girl does not get enough attention anyway.
January 26th, 2009 14:21
Lisa
I agree with most of the things which you said in your post above. I don’t think Chelsy was willing to “change” herself to suit Harry’s life style. But I think that you also have to remember that Harry had a wondering/roving eye. Some girls would have to ask themselves why should I change myself for someone who is not willing to stop his bad behavior. Chelsy was just living her life and yes a lot of unfortunate photographs were leaked but maybe she is better off out of it??
January 26th, 2009 14:43
pualoa,
??? what are your sources?
January 26th, 2009 14:55
There are some people who have posted today talking about things that have gone on behind the scenes. It has been said that the news will cause earthquakes. There have been huge happenings occuring behind the scenes tied to the PH and CD story. Am I the only one who doesn’t have a clue about what might be going on with PW and KM? Is it just gossip which is not known to the public. Are people trying to stir up trouble? It appears that they are in love and will stay together. I still think that they are soul mates. I hope that they are only talking.
January 26th, 2009 15:35
kat, I doubt pualoa has any inside information. People who hate Kate are using this event as a prelude to a W/K breakup. One blogger is predicting a W/K breakup but to date not one thing he has predicted has come to fruition so I think we can relax. I personally think an engagement announcement is more likely then a breakup announcement but, of course,I could be wrong. I think we need to relax and get through all this H/C fallout. All indications both in the media and from what my eyes see, all is well with W/K.
January 26th, 2009 15:37
just visiting, to answer your question because pualoa obviously will not, he/she has no sources other then his/her great uncle wishful thinking.
January 26th, 2009 16:10
Thanks for your insight. William and Kate have been through a lot and have stayed together. It looks like they are pretty tightand in love.
I hope that it will grow and will strengthen their bond. May whatever is coming be good to them and keep them strong. I hope that they ignore all of the talk which is against them and remain true to each other.
January 26th, 2009 16:17
my take on things, based on just a smattering of info….
it always seemed to me as if CD was very genuine in her behavior…she wore her heart on her sleeve to some extent (at least in terms of facial expressions) and was uninhibited and seemingly unconcerned with impression management; she was more accessible and more open;
KM, on the other hand, has always seemed somewhat inscrutable; she seems to exhibit a more controlled demeanor, more impression management; save for her smiles to the pappzz, it’s hard to ever fathom what’s going on with her
just my .02
January 26th, 2009 16:22
I have found most of the people who dislike Kate seem overly fond of Chelsy. They were always comparing how chelsy and harry couldn’t keep their hands off one another to will and kate who are more mature in their relationship. I think it really angers them to think kate and william have a future together and chelsy and harry have called it quits. This debunks their theory that will doesn’t love Kate because he didn’t verbally confess his love for Kate as harry has talked about his love for chelsy. I have always thought W&K have what it takes to make a successful marriage. Unfortunately, I had reservations about C & H.
January 26th, 2009 16:26
It is also funny that some people on other sites claim to have seen not so good facebook pics of Kate yet no one has ever published these pics. Interesting…..hmmm. i would love to see these pics.
January 26th, 2009 16:36
maddie there are posters on that other site who spend a large amount of their time bashing Kate. You have to take it with a grain of salt. They are probably young girls or girls who just have issues. I have read the posts and it amazes me how they speak as it they know her personally, know how she thinks,what she wants etc. You just have to ignore it and move on. The fantasies of these posters don’t amount to anything. If William and Kate are to remain together,nothing they post will change that. In contrast, if they are to breakup,there is nothing any of us who support the pairing can do about it. If they announce a split,I will be very dissappointed but I will love,lol. On the other hand,if they announce an engagement,I will be thrilled to expierence a part of history as I did when Diana and Charles married!
January 26th, 2009 18:35
I don’t know if anyone else saw the documentary this evening about PW & PH but I thought that it was very boring; nothing new.
All it basically said was that PW & PH hate the media with avengance, will do anything to keep out of the public eye & that PW is a reluctant future king. Him & Harry desparately want to live a normal life with “fringe benefits”. That is why they are joining the army / SAR’s to escape royal duties. The only mention of Kate was to say that effectively PW was using her to hide from the media because she was the one getting all of the press attention.
They focussed on all of the negative press stories about PH – but then spun the recent video scandal by saying that he would only have done it to “fit in” with his colleagues.
They came across as typical, upper class, landed “toffs”, drinking alot & socialising in a very tight circle of very priviledged friends (who were very loyal to them.)
Overall neither princes came across very well; particularly not PW who came across as rather inconfident & “mucked up” because of his early childhood.
By the way Ked please elucidate on what you were saying, we are all on tender hooks here. With all of this talk of spin doctors, all of the recent signals that I thought were positive I really am not sure about any more. If this is really all one big PR stunt before a break up as Pauloa alludes to, I can not believe that KM would go along with it. To me it would be beyond belief ….
January 26th, 2009 18:58
It sounds like what we call tabloid TV,H…gossip and made up crap. Although I do agree that they are going the military route to avoid cutting ribbons and unveiling statues for the next 50 years. Who wouldn’t? I don’t believe for one minute that he is using Kate as some sort of ruse. That would present William character in the worst possible light and I can’t imagine him to be that way. I hope not,anyway.
January 26th, 2009 19:04
I’ve just had a thought about Ked’s comments & what about a scenario whereby they use the PH / C break up as a reason for PW changing his mind & getting married sooner rather than later.
Something like – he saw what happened to his brother’s relationship & he didn’t want it to happen to him & kate so they decided to get married in the summer, they will settle together in cheshire & then he will focus on his training (being looked after at home by his loving, devoted wife
). It would also give a romantic message.
This could also explain the change in plan at New Year & going to stay at Birkdale (which was very odd behaviour anyway) – if they were summoned following news from PH that his relationship was over…..
So Ked what do you think, any good
January 26th, 2009 19:06
You will see that William and Kate have not been boyfriend and girlfriend for months, there is no engagement in the works, they have been friends for months nothing more. It is Kates best interest to keep quiet.
The brother’s (people) have their ways of doing things.You will soon become aware.
I don’t like or dislike either girl, I do think one is simply seeing clearly and moving on now.
January 26th, 2009 19:08
and you know this how????
January 26th, 2009 19:17
Pualoa, on what are you basing your views? If they are correct then why on earth at Xmas would they have “leaked” all of those stories, with some pictures of them together. It makes no sense.
Up until then Kate had vanished off the scene for months & it would have created alot less publicity for PW / the royal family if PW had just started training for the SAR’s without being pictured with Kate Middleton. With a “leaked” announcement once he started training. Instead someone (& I believe it was deliberate) raised their profile again as a couple & started all of the engagement rumours off again. That can not have been in PW’s best interests if infact they have split months ago.
Also, KM may want to stay in with the Royal Family, but she is also a human being, who I believe loves her man – so why and even how could she go along with this charade. She must be a fantastic actress.
January 26th, 2009 19:23
Don’t believe, just watch events unfold.
Binocular story was put out for a purpose , also were there others who attended the cottage getaway?
January 26th, 2009 20:02
These princes lives seem to be to overly 007 if you ask me. What are they hiding other than they want to end relationship w/girlfriends? This elaborate facade that others allude to is starting to sound like a Danielle Steel novel! What could it be…..one is gay, has a hidden child, Pippa takes PW and Kate takes PH or James is in love w/Anne? Do tell, please.
I agree w/H and think PW and KM fizzled out there a couple of weeks ago, I had her for a gonner. Why allow all this cozy cabin stories to continue when it will end the end hurt PW image more than if he just left people wondering?
January 26th, 2009 20:10
we had no pics of Kate for months then we had numerous pics of them together and now no pics. I don’t think they are allowing pics of Kate unless they are approved. You can’t tell me as sneaky and clever the paps are that they aren’t able to get one pic of her from her house. I still don’t think these two have split. There is no smoke screen…. imo
January 26th, 2009 20:14
Madame Pauloa has looked into her crystal ball and seen the light.
January 26th, 2009 20:24
I will say one thing that if this is one big hoax, the monarchy will not last to long! I think being somewhat honest w/the public would be best than creating lies that they think we want to hear.
January 26th, 2009 20:42
Has anyone seen the supposedly “explosive” Princeomentary on Channel 4? A Blogger Who Shall Remain Nameless quotes Mr. 50/50 Richard Kay (the journo friend of the late Diana) as saying Kate Middleton is being used as a decoy for PW’s “private activities.” What the heck is that supposed to mean? Everyone knows Prince William goes deer hunting!
Is Alsgal totally clueless (please, don’t answer
) or are they implying that PW, after all is said and done, would have really preferred to work as a florist, if not for his Kingly path? :O
Gracie, Chris234, Lisa, Rman — please, what’s going on?
January 26th, 2009 20:42
Pauloa how is your alter ego karawhatever doing?
I don’t get something. What in God’s green earth is your motivation for coming here and fabricating these silly tales? Boredom? Entertainment? NILS?(name in lights syndrome) Please, do share. You explanation will surely be far more interesting then your silly tales of the lives of people you have never met and hopefully never will.
January 26th, 2009 20:46
Maybe she is really Paris Hilton…..lol
January 26th, 2009 20:49
Alsgal, are you serious, did Kay really say that? If PW would prefer male companionship and needs a beard, then he should have married years ago. I don’t think Kay is going to be liked to much after saying that, even if it might be true.
January 26th, 2009 20:51
alsgal, I figured Mr blogger who shall reamin nameless would be all over that show because it supports his theory. As I said in an earlier post,that show sounds like tabloid TV at it’s worst. Maybe I am naive but I cannot believe the crap they are insinuating about William. I am in the US so I did not see this show and from the sounds of it, I am glad I didn’t.
Here is my take on these things and this includes all the made up media stories. The BRF has made a decision not to respond to press stories about them,whether or not they are true. This basically gives these vultures carte blanche to write whatever they wish. It is up to the public to decipher truth from fiction and sometimes that is easier said then done. fact,scandal sells. Thats all you need to know. If there is none,they make it up. The BRF will not respond because if they did,they would have to respond to all of the stories or people would come to the assumption that the ones they did not respond to were true. It’s sickening,really but it is one of the many prices they pay for being royal.
January 26th, 2009 20:55
The definition of decoy is “a person or thing used to lure someone into danger”. Is that what Kay actually said, or is John just not literate enough to express himself properly?
January 26th, 2009 21:02
Perhaps that explains the press coverage of PH and CD breakup. Was this a way for the RF to shift attention from expose? Someone on the other blog said something about PH and PW and the birds they shoot? Alsgal, do you know anything about that?
January 26th, 2009 21:05
What kind of woman would deal w/that when she is getting torn apart in the papers? No amount of money would be worth it.
January 26th, 2009 21:06
Lisa, Gracie, thank you — normally I’d dismiss it too as utter junk but since James Whitaker was a mouthpiece for Lady Diana (as was Richard Kay) it’s hard to dismiss both of them entirely, although they could just be washed up has- beens who don’t know Diddly — Bo, Fred, or Dave, any of the Diddlys for that matter.
I guess we’ll just have see what they mean because by “private activities” maybe they meant something else? Maybe William does weird things with marshmallows when he’s all by himself, or maybe in that secret room at Highgrove Harry is teaching himself how to pole vault for that next special young woman who comes into his life. We’ll just never know for sure.
On a happier note, even if Kate is a cover, at least that means we’ll still have a wedding to look forward to as even William’s Uncle Eddie eventually found the “right woman” and settled down.
January 26th, 2009 21:10
Phoebe, that BWSRN man seems pretty literate to me — I’ve seen him use up to three five syllabled words at a time.
January 26th, 2009 21:11
All I can say is that I am confused.
January 26th, 2009 21:12
You know alsgal,right now an announcement of an engagement between William and Kate would give me immense satisfaction if only to rub it in the faces of all these so called experts and bloggers with “inside information” who don’t know Jack(diddly’s cousin
)
As for Mr know it all blogger, he is just plain stupid,IMO. His site,which once was a respected, bustleing site, now goes days with no comments posted and even the few loyal posters who remain, are beginning to push back at his absurd theories.
January 26th, 2009 21:13
Welcome to my world, Kat.
January 26th, 2009 21:17
Wow, it sounds bad! This program might be enough to make PW change his mind about marrying KM afterall, if that’s the case. No wonder we are getting stories of Chumsley Castle for a weekend love nest. I thought PW private activites would be getting some hair graphs done, like his beard, to put on his head so he would have hair grow! Gosh, I hope they don’t have gerbels.
January 26th, 2009 21:17
Lisa, that would be fabulous to announce the engagement now and it would certainly silence all the whispers, even if only in a David Gest/Liza Minelli sort of way.
January 26th, 2009 21:19
I find it amusing that the Sun has “what to do if I want to date my boyfriends brother?” I can’t blame her!
January 26th, 2009 21:20
Gerbels Gracie — my word! :0 And here all this time I thought lightbulbs had been used instead — perhaps to illuminate a place “where the light don’t shine” !
January 26th, 2009 21:21
I have another theory and that is that maybe these fools know the engagement is coming and this program is a setup to inject some scandal/spice stories into what would otherwise be a boring future past the wedding,of course. Lets face it,W/K are a pretty vanilla couple,lol…
January 26th, 2009 21:22
If he said decoy and meant something else, then he is pretty illiterate.
January 26th, 2009 21:24
I don’t know about that, Lisa.
Gerbels, marshmallows — 
January 26th, 2009 21:26
I think alot of these so called journalists are simply ticked off because they got nothing out of the RF so they try to incite them into responding. I would imagine that Mr Kay would have been on the outs with anyone Windsor for quite some time now so his bitterness is no surprise.
January 26th, 2009 21:38
I said this would happen, people will start to involve William & Kate into what happened to Harry & Chelsy. It’s sad what happened to Harry & Chelsy but they are a very young couple and at those ages, you might breakup because your girlfriend or boyfriend chewed their food the wrong way. Nothing has changed on William & Kate’s side of things, we have seen that they are going on strong and no I do not believe Kate is helping William cover up something. Who started that rumor? This is why is very important not to start a rumor over the internet because it can get out of hand and cause many to believe in it. There are so many crazy stories being told about Harry & Chelsy it’s not even funny. And the truth is none of us really know what happened. Couples don’t look madly in love one minute and break up the next. Something very private and bad must have happened in order for Chelsy to change her relationship status on her Facebook site. I just hope they will be okay and they are able to move on peacefully. I’m sure William & Kate are offering some advice to Harry & Chelsy and letting them know that they are there for them.
Guys, seriously don’t let all of this confuse you because that is the job of the tabs and you will make them pretty happy if you start to run with these stories.
January 26th, 2009 21:39
That makes sense, Lisa. Although if this is really so “explosive” wouldn’t RK and JW worry about being taken to court in the UK?
Also seems weird as some of the other also rather explosive things (the George Smith rape) have been blocked from being reported on in the British papers or on British television.
January 26th, 2009 22:15
I would like to have some proof of these statements about PW and KM. A lot of rumors and inuendo are going around. Who is to know what is the truth? I could believe that KM and PW had split however there is the shooting outing, the WM, the holidays, and her birthday.
Pualoa needs to explain about the binoculars.
Everyone says that things will be known soon.
Everyone dances around what they supposedly know without coming out and saying anything. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see.
January 26th, 2009 22:20
Very true Lisa.
January 26th, 2009 22:24
But to tell you the truth Kat, I’m looking forward to seeing what happens this year. A new Monarchy site will be up next month, we have lots of royal events coming up this year and I look forward to seeing William & Kate out and about. I’m looking towards the future with lots of hope that William & Kate will have another good year.
January 27th, 2009 02:01
The program lasted night stated that Kate is being used the same way that Harry is or was; she acts as a buffer for William and diverts all the attention off him, so he can keep his positive royal image.
January 27th, 2009 02:04
I know B, and we know that is just a bunch of BS. William is not using Kate.
January 27th, 2009 02:15
Two things:
1) how do you know that? Are you able to speak to palace insiders; journalists etc???
2) They said that a cynic would say that he is using her in the way you are saying that he is not. But think about, who is more popular in search engines, Kate or William? Who do we get more news about? Who is more popular to discuss on forums etc.? He is not using her as such but you cannot disagree with the fact that she diverts attention from him.
January 27th, 2009 08:50
Alsgal, about what you said earlier- I think it weird that RK who works seems occasionally on DM, but the DM has not covered the docu at all. No one has. I think its sad that PW might end up w/the same stigma Uncle Eddie has even after he got married. This is where the RF makes mistakes regarding their PR. They just don’t respond to it and then it allows the story to go on and on w/no verification on its truth.
What kind of activities would required PW to use KM as a decoy? They knew what they were implying IMO. If people didn’t think KM was allowing herself to be used, than they sure do now.
January 27th, 2009 11:01
Oh Lord, I just wish these two will just go ahead and get married already because this BS will continue as long as they hold it off. It’s sad that people would think William would do her like that. They are always trying to paint William & Kate is some bad light. Like it’s too impossible for these two to be in love with each other and care for one another. Like their love is just too good to be true. I feel sorry for William & Kate sometimes because they just can’t win but as long they keep their heads high and just continue to ignore the BS, the better things will be. Just because Harry & Chelsy’s relationship went down now they have to start on William & Kate and that’s why I said it’s important not to get the relationships mixed up.
January 27th, 2009 15:59
It’s not a constant flowing relationship as the press has tried to portray. It is a relationship-friendship with great lulls in between, then a big outing, here and there.
Despite the press showing it as romantic, there are always groups or friends present usually. He gave her gifts such as binoculars as he would give a good friend. Old girlfriends still gets similar gifts from him, but they don’t have sources talking to the press as others do now.
William’s life is moving forward, Kate will never say if they are no longer a romantic couple, but her mother gave a good indication as to what was happening. Sometimes the stories shot down the most are the truest. The press headlines won’t be done the same as before when they broke up.
January 27th, 2009 16:04
Man,I am getting so dissillusioned by all this crap that I am beginning to wish they either get married already or break up. The media enviorment in the UK is just not condusive to another two or three years of this limbo crap. It has done huge damage to Kate’s reputation and now it seems, it is spilling into William’s.
The innuendo’s being suggested by this documentary are beyond damaging and as per protocol, there will likely be “no comment” from anyone on it. How long can the media trash this couple? It is beyond belief and it needs to end one way or another. 
January 27th, 2009 16:05
Rman,
Why get so frustrated? If they want to get married, they will, in their own time.
January 27th, 2009 16:45
Just visiting, I’m not frustrated. I just hate all the negitive things that is being said. I know that announcement will come in it’s due time but when things don’t go the media’s way, they will trash you and try to push all of your buttons until you say something. William & Kate keeps their mouth closed so media just don’t have much. These kind of things is what tarnished peoples thoughts about Charles & Diana. Little documentaries came out and it painted Charles & Diana’s relationship in so many lights that some things stuck and no matter what the couple did, they couldn’t change it. The media shouldn’t do this new young couple like that. William & Kate seem to be taking their time, building a solid relationship and I think William who will carry the burden of the Monarchy on his shoulders in the future, don’t want too much drama for the family. I think William & Kate know that this breakup between Harry & Chelsy will shift some focus on them and the media might start to question what’s going on with them. But to start a horrible rumor that she is being used and etc is totally unfair to her and William. I’m sure they are lending their support to Harry & Chelsy because the media seem to be not that interested in giving them a break.
January 27th, 2009 16:46
Pualoa, why are they leading the public and some of the press to believe they are still together? How does that help the monarchy or PW, which would mean they are manipulating the very people who pay for them? Sounds like a dangerous game to play, cause what happens if the house falls down? Please, please tell where you get this knowledge from and why the need for such secrets, is she w/child and he has found another woman who he loves more? I would think KM and PW would be relieved if someone would come clean, so they can be free!
January 27th, 2009 17:34
gracie, no offense, but why are you even believing what Pualoa has to say? Why would you even assume Pualoa knows what the heck she or he is talking about?!
Pualoa doesn’t know anything more than I or than you do, this person is just guessing. You have to rely on common sense and don’t let the weird and wacky conspiracy theorists get to you.
They’ll bend your mind and have you thinking things that are so silly and ridiculous, it’s pathetic. Life isn’t a James Bond movie or a reality tv show. William is just William, and there is no indication that he is using Kate for anything, just like there’s no indication that Kate is using Wills for anything. We’ve seen the photos of them together, they’ve spent time together, they’re together. It’s very simple and straightforward.
The conspiracy crap is just some people’s way of getting attention, and I, for one, think it’s sort of sick and definitely pathetic. If you see Wills and Kate together, then unless THEY say differently, they’re together.
Just like Harry and Chelsy’s break up was made public, so would a break up between Wills and Kate. If they weren’t together, the public would know by now because it would’ve been “leaked” to the media. That’s the way those things work, anonymous phone calls are made to the press, who follows up and then reports.
If we haven’t heard about a break up between Wills and Kate, it’s because there isn’t a break up.
Set your mind at ease, and don’t fall into the trap of believing the hype and the negative crap. It’s just rubbish put forward by people who are hoping to find some weak-minded characters they can alarm, and then secretly laugh at. I can’t stand that sort of behaviour, and they’ll never fool me.
Real life is a lot more simple and straightforward than the weirdos want us to believe.
January 27th, 2009 17:44
What on earth is happening? It looks as if all hell’s broken loose. I take it some of you saw the docu. I thought it rather tame.
Why are you all so angry?
Unfortunately, we only have one computer at home, and my husband needs it for work related studies he’s doing for an exam. So I’ve not been able to use it.
Not only that, (sorry to mention this BRW) some time ago I joined another Royal site. I just dove in without checking it. It’s all over the place, threads everywhere. Not to mention, avatars, sayings, smiley faces, dogs, cats, the list is endless. I’d call it a site for farley rusk eaters.
Then, having viewed it a some length, I decided to stay in there if only to fight Kate’s corner. As one blogger said, ‘Legions are numbers’.
Meanwhile, someone has thrown me a gauntlet, and this is the first time I’ve manage to get on this contraption for any length of time.
Why are you all P***** off?
January 27th, 2009 17:55
I’m so glad you said that Mapleleaf and this is why I have been saying over and over again that it is important not to get William & Kate’s relationship mixed with Harry & Chelsy’s which I knew was going to happen when Harry & Chelsy split. The attention is on them now but why the attention has to be negitive, is beyond me. We all know that William & Kate is going on strong and that’s just how it is. Nothing has changed on that front. Just because Harry & Chelsy has split dos not mean William & Kate’s relationship is about to go down to the pits of Hell. It’s also imortant for bloggers on this site not to give any attention to rumors because we do know that tabs can pick that up and make it their own.
January 27th, 2009 18:02
Hale, we are trying to calm down. I’m not going to let a silly blogger on here get my blood pressure up and besides William & Kate is not paying attention to this stuff and they are getting on with their lives. They would be totally crazy to let all of this pluck their nerves.
January 27th, 2009 18:04
What the….If W & K have split, then I will eat the wallpaper I’m stripping.
Has everyone forgotten Ingrid Seaward’s editorial letter. As alsgal call’s her ‘The Lady of Hope’.
January 27th, 2009 18:11
Rman…Thank you, I’ve been scrolling back and trying to catch up….This blogger sound’s to me like one of those who I have locked horn’s with on the other site. They claim W & K broke up month’s ago, and that their relationship isn’t real but staged.
As I said, that site is something else. I swear companies are now injecting magic mushrooms into baby food.
Sorry BRW…You are the best, easier thread’s to follow and proof positive simplicity is CLASS!
January 27th, 2009 18:30
mapleleaf,Rman, you both make excellent points especially when it come to posters who show up with less then honorable intentions. It is best to ignore and hope they get bored and run along to another site.
What I think has me so frustrated is that if William was not so media-phobic, he could put a stop to so much of this speculation and rumor and in turn preserve the way the public views both himself and kate. I had hoped the new PR guy would make some kind of difference but short of sending kate into hiding,it appears things are the same old same old…
January 27th, 2009 18:31
LOL, Hale you are funny but no William & Kate have not split. No I have not forgotten what Ingrid said and with these books coming out this spring, I get the feeling that there’s a excitment out there that many just can’t hold on to.
Here is the Telegraph’s artical on how Chelsy used Facebook to let the world know about her relationship. I’m starting to wonder if Harry is upset that she did that? Or if they saw it as the best way to let people know.
January 27th, 2009 18:32
The link, lol.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/4347639/Chelsy-Davy-A-change-of-heart-on-Facebook.html
January 27th, 2009 18:38
Lisa that’s what I’m hoping that this new team will help a lot. But I think there’s more great stuff to come this year and I get the feeling that there are some things in the works as we speak.
January 27th, 2009 18:46
Times Online offering tips so you can look fresh after a breakup.
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/beauty/article5600226.ece
January 27th, 2009 18:49
A nice old picture of William &n Kate.
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee337/4chelsy/R025-5037.jpg
January 27th, 2009 18:53
Rman, you are funny posting about “makeup after a breakup.” Like you would be interested in that. Anything to keep us girls happy, huh? LOL
January 27th, 2009 18:58
Rman…Thank you for the link. I don’t think Chelsy has done herself any favours, the pic of the broken heart make’s her sound immature.
Lisa…With regards to your comment about W being media- phobic. I got two things from that doc. IMO the RF are going back. What I mean by that is; the whole Diana & Fergie thing focussed the public’s attention away from their public works and onto their private lives.
Just as the press make up stories, I got the impression that the RF are constantly throwing minor red herrings into the arena by way of distracting them. That way, when they do an official event ALL the media turn up, followed by stories and pics which run for days and hit all the mag stands. In other words, the RF are attempting to take control.
I also believe it’s a further sign as to the seriousness of W & K’s relationship. She’s been told to lie low. It was never like that for H & C.
I’m with you Lisa, I believe it could be handled much better than it has been. Kate is so much on the receiving end of all this, it’s so unfair, but it is also a testament to her character. All of which one day I believe even the tabs will acknowledge….but not untill after the engagement announcement.
January 27th, 2009 19:08
I think that a lot of the bloggers should go back and take a good course in human psychology. Some the opinions that I read border on the ridculous. No one knows the couple personally, so we can go only on what we know as fact. That is there were pictures of W & K together over Christmas. They have never said anything in public. When the time is right, they will let us know what the future holds for them. I only pray that they made the correct decision for themselves. No one else gets a vote on their personal life.
January 27th, 2009 19:19
PUALOA….if I may quote you:
‘Many yet untold events have gone on behind the scenes with the main attraction in the youthful house of W’
I get it your NOSTRADAMUS
January 27th, 2009 19:20
Grandma828…AMEN to that.
January 27th, 2009 19:26
my .02
no one really knows anything on this site or any other ….the one exception was wills (who still may post
) and who had inside info due to being near the action and getting scoops from people who witnessed things first-hand
but everything else is just pure conjecture and idle armchair theorizing….
that’s okay, everyone is entitled to their own pet theory….
not having seen this inflammatory video, i can only imagine it’s insinuating that pw is ok with the media focusing on his ‘relationship’ with km, so that behind the scenes he can pursue whatever, without close media scrutiny….
pw and km may or may not be romantically involved….at minimum, they are and probably will remain ‘good friends’
i will say this: the gifts pw has gotten km are not romantic! A telescopic viewer for a gun for her birthday?
the “rules” say: if he doesn’t get you something romantic for xmas or your birthday or for valentine’s, then break it off with him, he’s not ‘in love’ with you
but we all know KM is no rules girl
maybe she’s content to hang in there….indefinitely
PW sure is content to let things coast along…but there are gender differences with these romantic things….
it’s harder for a woman to go out and get married…it’s not something most women can just go out and do immediately….it takes time to meet someone and develop a relationship
two years can slip by and it may be time to end that one and try again…..for a woman of 27, time is starting to fly by…and there are fertility issues to be mindful of…fertility starts to wane in mid-30s….
and, there’s the issue of purpose and accomplishments in life….is it enough to coast along without really dedicating oneself to some worthwhile pursuit? i guess maybe it is….but some might think otherwise
just rambling here….:)
January 27th, 2009 19:27
LOL, Gracie of course I don’t know anything about makeup but I thought that was nice of them to give young women a few tips. I wouldn’t want my girlfriend to look bad after we split.
January 27th, 2009 19:39
That is a silly rule about if he doesn’t get you something romantic then break it off he doesn’t love you. I have never heard that ever.
January 27th, 2009 19:47
My husband once bought me a new set of gardening tools for Valentine’s day.
They’re great.
I do love gardening.
January 27th, 2009 20:09
I would much rather get something I will use. I think women want jewelry early in a relationship but after a few years get me something I can use or something we could do together. I have so much jewelry I never wear and it is not as sincere of a gift in my opinion. The gift I love more than anything was a new pair of skis.
January 27th, 2009 20:17
the Times online has a piece about Kate being allergic to horses..
and now for some food for thought..
There are a few what I will call “hot days” coming up soon. They are the week of feb 9th-12th, the 12th being the unveiling of the new monarchy site. Maybe if the stars are aligned just right and the moon is not too full, we may just have something to smile about and an extra present for valentines day that just may be romantic!
January 27th, 2009 20:21
Whether PW bought KM a “scope” is not an established fact. As Grandma828 pointed out, what IS an established fact is that they returned together from Scotland after Christmas. No one of their friends returned with them, whether or not they were present in Scotland at Birkhall at the same time. The fact that they returned together, alone so to speak, says volumes.
January 27th, 2009 20:37
I don’t know if this will help to cheer you up, but see the heading above? ‘Queen wants credit crunch wedding for William & Kate.’
Well I’ve been scrolling back looking at the archives of BRW, and one of the headlines is from the Daily Star, which says W & K set wedding date. This article is dated 27th July 2008, and in the article it claims that the wedding will take place in the summer of 2009, and the venue is likely to be St George’s Chapel, Windsor.
I was astounded when I read that. Never mind PP & Autumn. The second or third in line to the throne, as established by George V (I think) usually gets married in Westminster. In the case of Diana, as you know, they got married at St Paul’s. Yet the article goes on to say, W is put off by marrying in St Paul’s because of his mother’s wedding, and is put of marrying in Westminster because of his mothers funeral.
All this before the credit crunch took hold, also before the above piece.
Then a couple of days ago, I posted that link to an old Katie Nichol story who also said they would likey be married in summer of 2009, and as I said before, wouldn’t it be romantic if it was announced on Valentine’s day.
January 27th, 2009 20:41
Hale, looking at the calendar for upcoming events for the royals, there is a bit of a gap the week of the 9th, in fact not one member of the BRF has a public engagement scheduled for the 9th including princess Anne. This is odd if you ask me. With the new website unveiling at the end of the week(the 12th), I’d say there is a shot. The timing would make sense. It would be a 5 or 6 month window for a summer wedding. We’ll see.
January 27th, 2009 21:31
Lisa, Hale, Judy Wade did say in the US piece that engagement are always announced in Feb.,so ya’ll could be on to something. Diana and Charles was announced on Feb. 21. I have a feeling that if it does happen this month, I don’t think it will be that date especially since Hale read PW did not want St. Pauls because of his parents. He seems like he does not want any clouds over his marriage, so to speak. So with PH having the beautiful sapphire ring, hopefully PW picked something just as large and beautiful. I do wish that if they must throw a budget wedding, that it could be held somewhere other than Windsor. It would be lovely to have it somewhere unique to PW and KM, possible Scotland at a church on one of Granny’s properties. Of course it’s not my wedding, but it’s so dark inside w/all the wood. I would be nice if it was similiar to Lady Rose Innes Kerr, w/lots of flowers like an English garden. We’ll see.
January 27th, 2009 21:42
gracie,as much as I would love to see a quaint,romantic wedding,the wedding of the future King will be a state affair most likely held at St pauls or the Abbey. The credit crunch thing is kind od silly,IMO. The nation will benefit greatly from a royal wedding of this magnitude as well.
January 27th, 2009 22:03
hi brw may have website of pp
January 27th, 2009 22:14
Well if you look back at a lot of the articals, almost everything pointed to 2009. So yes we just have to wait and see what happens. I’m surprised Ingrid Seward let it slip that William will marry Kate because everybody else is trying to keep their mouths closed. But I’ll tell you one thing, her life will change. But it’s not like her life haven’t already changed, she is featured in all the major papers and magazines. She is noticed by Vanity Fair and there are about three to four books that has been published about her.
January 27th, 2009 22:18
Rman,I think it is a change she has been preparing for for quite some time now. Say what you want about Kate but she will probably be the most well informed royal bride to date as far as knowing exactly what she is getting herself into. Eyes wide open as they say.
January 27th, 2009 22:42
Out of topic. Facebook gets people in a lot of trouble. Also, changing your relationship status on Facebook is meaningless. As far as I’m concerned, both Chelsy and Harry are still dating. I might be in denial.
January 28th, 2009 00:29
well, secret summer 2009 wedding plans are the ONLY thing that make ANY sense to me
if KM received total assurance of a forthcoming wedding then it’s rational for her to continue in this relationship
she’s not simply putting her life on hold and making herself available at pw’s whim; instead she’s spending her time getting prepared for the big, new role awaiting her
however: one big problem with this theory is: (and here I borrow from posters’ insights):
pw should have been gradually but steadily easing her into involving herself more seriously in some semi-official charity events all along….rather than expecting her to abruptly shift over to performing royal duties, she needs to start performing more and more of these….
pw has had many opportunities to do this, but has not….
January 28th, 2009 01:48
anastasia, I couldn’t agree more. I have been saying this all along. We need to see Kate doing more charity work, become patron or president of some organizations. And I think this new team will help her do that unofficially. Everybody knows it’s true that William is easing her into a royal role.
January 28th, 2009 02:21
“Everyone knows that it is true that William is easing her into a royal role” What?!?! Do I? Where on earth is any evidence for this? We’ve heard nothing which suggests this at all.
January 28th, 2009 03:26
Rman,
Sorry old friend, PW has by implication managed to keep KM away from any Charity or Charitable events either he or thr RF are associated with.
Two Charities with which he is closely associated with are the recent v S charity which KM could easily have been assimilated into as she was very friendly with the family and The Royal Marsdon Hospital Trust. That in particular would have given her an unique opportunity to be associated with a National Charity and would have helped her standing within the country and community.
He has deliberately prevented her from being associated with, him in particular and the RF family in general, any worthwhile public and notable events which again brings into doubt any early or immediate engagement/marriage.
The nearest PW has been to firmly associating himself to and with her is probably allowing his car to be photographed at and leaving her home after the recent overnight stay.
Even that event may even have been planned
to divert attention from the two PH stairies. The “racist” film and the CD breakup.
In many other other matters when he could have supported her in similar roles he has cynically ignored her and kept her at arms length, not in personal matters but in any state related involvement and as such must be held almost fully responsible for the humiliating treatment she and her family were subjected to.
Sorry Rman, in this respect PW has a lot to answere for.
January 28th, 2009 06:46
Ked….Kate was at Windsor for the Order of the Garter ceremony.
January 28th, 2009 08:05
Hale,
Agreed, as she was at his Army passing out and his Wings ceremony. I refered to that above, “not in personal matters but in any state etc”
In the case of Auntumn Phillips, she was invited by the Queen to accompany her on her Cruise around the British Isles over 12 months before her wedding and 8 months before the engagement was announced.
MT , Zara’s boyfriend was in the Official Royal Photograph on the Chapel steps at PP’s wedding. KM and CD left by the side door.
PW had a formal dinner with Camilla and family but didn’t invite KM a decision for which PC showed his disapproval by not attending at last minute.
There have been many other situations similar to these when a full court is in attendance but KM is kept well clear.
Why ?
Autumn and Mike were there why not KM the prospective wife of the next King +1.
Part of it may be his and PC’s loathing of the press which has, is and will cause them to bite back by attacking what they consider PW’s weakest spot, KM.
As I have said previously , since the summer of 2007 CH/PB have continuously pushed the popularity of PW to the detriment of KM and now it is debatable if PW was a contributing force or not.
Again I ask why?
January 28th, 2009 08:54
Sorry Ked but William has been easing her into a royal role. She was invited by the Queen to the Order of The Garter Service and installment. She was invited to the two royal weddings and she sat with the royal family at the Phillips’s wedding. William was in training when The Queen went on that cruise so it would have been alittle odd having Kate there without William. When Sophie was dating Edward she to went on cruises with the royal family on the royal Yacht Britannia but Edward was there. I have a feeling that this year things will be different and KM will more involved in things.
January 28th, 2009 08:56
Ked, again I ask why? Why carry on the facade of a relationship to cover up a blunder made by another family member, it will just dig them deeper into a hole? The monarchy is playing w/fire as the world’s economy is falling apart and UK is especially hurt. Do the powers that run the monarchy think that because of RF treatment of many things, that the public might get tired of their manipulations?
What is wrong w/KM, that she would allow herself to be used in such a manner? Even if she is getting monetary rewards, she is losing her social status. What does it matter if she has locked herself away in an ivory tower, she can’t even enjoy what she has gained? This is all to ridiculous because I can’t see why PW would continue to hold onto her like this if he has someone else and why must she hide?
January 28th, 2009 09:08
With regards to the recent 3-hour stay by PW at KM’s place which is claimed was during her birthday, Im repeating my words that picture wasn’t taken on 9/1/2009 I wish people could believe me. It was when before on a different day.
Ask me how I know about all this, the only answer I can give is nothing else but “you dont know who I am, where I live, whether Im a housemaid at KM’s, a gardner, a former nanny or former employee at PP.
January 28th, 2009 09:17
Like I always said Gracie, until these two get married the media will always try to cheapen this relationship. Why do they have to treat this couple this way? I think they are tierd of the waiting around. Even Ingrid Seward said that William will marry her, but the media wants something now and if they have to get alittle nasty, then so be it. Now I have to admit that William & Kate need to do more things together. Get involved in some charities together, have a fundraiser together or something. But one thing I do know, William is not using her and holding on to her for the wrong reasons. How do I know this? because I don’t believe that is William’s character nor will he hurt that girl and her family that way. Like William said in that interview in 2007, no matter what you read and what people say, you don’t know anyone until you meet them. I have to say I would like to meet William so I could tell him face to face on how the media is painting his character because it’s sad that they are doing that just to sell papers, and stir up gossip. Crazy part is we fall into that trap all the time, it gets us all fired up.
January 28th, 2009 09:33
Pretty,
So the picture was taken on another very frosty day, as is was on KM’s birthday?
I’m not buying it. Besides what difference does that make? it proves or disproves nothing.
January 28th, 2009 11:00
Pretty, is your other name Karagiosis (or something like that). Im pretty sure it is
January 28th, 2009 11:20
Hello,
I have just read Pretty’s post and I was reminded of a comment heard but not connected.
The Land Rover with PW’s security team was not parked in the driveway, and it is a rule that an armed security guy must be in the same room or adjacent room if the first room does not have outside access on first floor.
An example of that was at the Austria wedding when a senior security guard was in the room with PW at all times because of outside access and PW was stopped from staying overnight at KM’s Chelsey flat.
I did hear that it was doubtful that PW had been there overnight but I had honestly not given it a thought until Pretty mentioned 3 hours, 9am-12noon not 15 hours 9pm-12noon as reported.
Can’t confirm those hours just mentioning that small doubt.
Pretty may well be correct as PW travelled to Shropshire that afternoon and it was said he arrived early evening the day before the photographs.
Sorry not trying to confuse just trying tp confirm timings.
January 28th, 2009 11:21
JV
Certainly not Karagiosis!
Thank you
January 28th, 2009 11:24
I’m not sure, guest3. I think karagiosis can speak for herself without pretending to be someone else.
January 28th, 2009 11:37
I think there are a few posters visiting this site who are using different names. What a pity. Most people here are genuine royal watchers who enjoy the diversion from the daily grind of our lives and that enjoyment is marred by people,who for whatever reason, insist on playing childish games and spreading silly rumors. Why not go find something you enjoy and partake in it in a positive manner instead of wasting the time of others who are simply trying to enjoy a harmless hobby.
January 28th, 2009 11:38
All I can emphasise is that “could people stop believing anything reported on newspapers” esp tabloids. If I may take you back to May 2008, it was reported that CD met HRH during PA’s wedding. They got it wrong, Ive seen pictures and a brief video CD was introduced 2 weeks before the wedding.
January 28th, 2009 12:12
Well we do know that William did spend the night at her house and helped celebrate her birthday, which was great and he was pictured leaving her home so no one can mess with that because we have proof of it. Lisa points out that the major problem here is that people do go from site to site and spread rumors and act silly. It is childish and it’s wrong no matter what excuse used.
January 28th, 2009 12:42
pretty are you the same poster who had a sister working catering at charles 60th birthday. if that is not you, does anyone remember who that was?
January 28th, 2009 13:12
why would it be odd for km to go on a cruise with the queen, in pw’s absence, when it was not odd for km to attend the wedding in pw’s absence?
the evidence seems to suggest that pw is carefully limiting km’s involvement in royal duties or in the rf’s affairs or rf life….
if pw involved km in charities, or other affairs, it would carry a strong symbolic meaning to the public: tantamount to announcing her increasing importance, and to their definite future together….
and, once this new view of km emerged in the public’s mind (as deeply involved in charities, the rf, etc….), it would be much more difficult for pw to disentangle himeself from his relationship with km and still maintain some semblance of a reputation as a good guy
so….conclude what you will….we’re all entitled to our opinions….
it looks as if pw wants to keep km at arm’s length….this means he can make a clean break from her and it would be less detrimental to his reputation than a messy one…..
i forgot that km was excluded from those rf photos at the wedding….that is pretty telling….
otherwise, why would km go along with a charade? she probably doesn’t view it as such
as i’ve said before, this is why that bestselling book The Rules was so popular and still is:
so many, many women pin their hopes on some man, and hang in there year after year….
km may realize on some level that things are dragging along, but she’s probably not ready on an emotional level to accept what this all means….her mother apparently is realizing what it all means….
which is why i said earlier: the only thing that makes km’s behavior rational is if she’s received strong assurance of a forthcoming wedding to pw
maybe she has been promised this, and she and pw are just keeping it their secret for the time being….that’s fine….but as mentioned earlier…this theory is contradicted by pw’s failure to involve km in more royal charity duties…..(and as ked mentioned, involving her in these would do huge wonders for her standing and honor and improve her media coverage)
of course, as some here insist, km and pw may just be perfectly content to keep on dating the way they are
that’s fine, it’s a free country…it’s just that for a beautiful young woman to allow herself to be dangled along for all those years is not cool
after a certain point, it’s degrading
sure, some have pointed out how members of some other royal familes have experienced long drawn out dating relationships
but those are anecdotal examples and two wrongs don’t make a right
January 28th, 2009 13:21
So Rman, you listed the Order of the Garter which she not invited to not by the Queen but by William- it would have been rather strange for her to not be there after Sandhurst in 06 and the Wings ceremony. She went to a wedding which would have also be strange for her not to attend seeing as Chelsy went and she has known the family for 5 years now. It would be rude for her not to be invited. I do not count the other royal wedding, firstly because I don’t consider it to be a true royal wedding as such more of an aristocratic wedding, and secondly she has been in that circle for so long anyway.
She has not been taken into the royal fold all of the events you listed happened at the beginning of the summer.
January 28th, 2009 13:29
Why can’t these “insiders” that know so much about KM and PW relationship just come out and tell what you know and what is really going on? I am tired of trying of reading between the lines!
This is not war games, their is no need to be cloake and dagger. Please someone tell me why if KM and PW are broke up does she remain in hiding? If you really know something, my guess would be you would say it. Unless your afraid your brakes might give out or something?
January 28th, 2009 13:35
I think it is because they are unable to give too much info away in fear of being found out who they are. I also think that whilst they are willing to leak somethings other topics are more serious or private and their morals prevent them from going that far.
January 28th, 2009 14:02
I think they want to feel important. They don’t know crap. Why would someone with such intimate knowledge be posting on an internet forum. It seems like they would be chatting with katie nicholl and getting paid.
January 28th, 2009 14:07
B, The Queen is the one who invited Kate to The Order of The Garter Service and Installment, which is two seperate events. The Installment takes place in the Garter Room at Windsor Castle, where The Queen dressed William in his robes then there was the Garter Lunch. The lunch is very quick because The Queen don’t like long lunches. Then the big service came along at St. Georges Chapel, where Kate sat with Prince Harry. It was a event The Queen used to acknowledge her grandson’s longtime companion. At the Phillips Wedding, Kate was a unofficial stand in for William and she sat with the royal family along with Chelsy. She also attended Lady Rose’s wedding with the royal family. Kate is slowly being welcomed into the fold. The media knows that, royal experts knows that and that’s how it is. As for these so called “Insiders” who are going from site to site with these hints, they are trying to stir things up and don’t have any info. I can do the same thing by saying, “guys, I heard W/K are going to have a very important meeting soon but I can’t say where and when.” Then you guys will ask me to spill the beans and stop playing games. I won’t say anything else to leave you guys guessing and before you can blink an eye, the BRW site is lit up with fireworks and big debates. That’s what these so called “insiders” are doing. I’m not trying to be mean or not welcoming to others opinions but we must understand that is what’s happening and we can’t fall into that trap.
January 28th, 2009 14:11
B, I don’t think these people who leak have a whole lot of morals or they would not be talking anyway.
Looks like another great import from the states has arrived in UK, Paris! Maybe she’ll hook one of the Wales brothers and make the RF appreciate the women that they deem common, unacceptable or lazy.
January 28th, 2009 14:18
She must have heard the news of chelsy and harry splitting. Run Harry Run!
January 28th, 2009 14:37
Hi guys..Alsgal, the reason I was asking you your nationality is because I didn’t know that Jordan/Andre were know outside of this island. If they are, then everyone please accept my commiserations.
I do not understand the fuss as to when the photo was taken of William’s car outside KM’s. What if it was taken on another day, what’s the big deal? He was there. W may not have been able to be there on the very day itself. He’s in the forces for god sake. Just because he’s a prince doing courses on piloting helicopters. doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to do any studying, he too has to sit exams.
Ked…Order of the Garter, it’s the first ever time a Royal has ever invited a girlfriend to watch the ceremony.
With regards to Q going on a cruise around British Isles, and inviting Autumn. I wasn’t aware she’d been on a cruise since the Royal Yacht was de-comissioned.
As for the way KM & CD weren’t included in the wedding pic’s but MT was, nothing unusual about that. MT & Zara are ‘practically’ living with one another, and are stongly tipped to be next up the aisle. Media reports they are house hunting. My own personal experience is; boyfriends/girlfriends are not included in official wedding family snaps. Although I accept there are variations. Can’t imagine RF accepting variations of that.
As for the formal dinner with PW, Camilla & others, and I take you word for it, but why was PC ticked because KM was not invited? Nothing to do with PC, he should learn to mind his own business.
I do not understand why people should think this relationship between W & K is staged, and I think that headline of her being indisposed, hence her low profile, is specultaton from another planet. It belongs with; Elvis is still alive and Lord Lucan was spotted on missing Shergar.
IMO what causes the spec that these two people are no longer an item is:
1. We are used to Royal’s matching & hatching early.
2. The press are not as well informed as the impression they give.
The divorces of PC & PA were deeply embarrassing to the monarchy, they do not want a repetition at any cost.
In that doc, it left me with a strong opinion that RF are attempting to control the media.
Comments welcome.
January 28th, 2009 14:44
Ooooo…Gracie….nice.
January 28th, 2009 14:49
Maddie, yeah I think it’s pretty fun that Paris is here when PH and CD split. She is filming finding her next bff, I bet she is trying to get PH for the spot. PH can’t take that kind of time off to film w/her so maybe CD can. She says their good friends!
January 28th, 2009 15:19
Hale lol, your post was funny and I agree.
“1. We are used to Royal’s matching & hatching early.” Now I agree with that too.
Yeah The Queen went on a cruise with her family on The Hebridean Princess for her 80th birthday. The family all chipped in for the trip. Peter & Autumn went as well. It was mostly couples that went on the trip. Andrew was with his kids.
I think we have the right brains to know that William & Kate’s relationship is not staged but have been dating for seven years so I don’t pay any attention to that crap that it is staged. That is not only unfair to the couple but a slap in the face. And I realize that some don’t care about these peoples feelings.
January 28th, 2009 15:47
Rman…Thank’s for that info.
I am reminded of one of your posts when you said that now H & C have split all pressure will shift to W & K.
My point here is, I distinctly remember you provided a link which suggested of a possible split between H & C before it happened.
However, I have yet to see anything in the press suggesting W & K have split. Quite the contrary.
All this spec therefore isn’t a result of anything said in the media, rather comments posted by bloggers.
January 28th, 2009 15:59
No, everybody knows that W&K have not split but are doing just fine. Bloggers are known to start these rumors. Yeah I think the attention will shift towards them.
January 28th, 2009 16:13
Whoa!…Have just been scolling back and have come across a posting from Ked about the docu.
‘Council of War’ at Birkhill and Bucklebury. What’s going on, what have I missed? Do tell.
My husband has been hogging to computer.
As for the ‘A’ word, a no no in royal circles….unfortunately, tragically, shamefully, yep…dare I say it… Sorry but I agree with that one.
January 28th, 2009 16:33
Nothing Hale, Ked just think all didn’t go so well when William & Kate was on vacation this past Christmas but they looked like that had a good time and celebrated her birthday.
January 28th, 2009 16:44
Rman…Thank’s again..LOL
January 28th, 2009 17:18
Hello,
I was in Wolfgang (Swiss not Ausria) between Davos and Klosters over the New Year period and the apres ski buz was that PW was expected to join up with friends to ski in Crans -Montana.
The next I heard was that he and KM were ’summoned’ to Birkhill by PC for urgent meetings and I must admit several variations on the plot went thgrough my mind.
It could however have been the PH/CD split and a briefing either to get the stories right or to enquire the position of PW/KM. I don’t know which or if either.
Then the stories about ‘a wedding’ etc started, the Q wanted a chhepy wedding, PW was arranging a love nest nera his base and so on and I speculated that as the Sun mentioned an estate of a body close to RF I opted for Cholmondeley as I knew the area as I stay there with relatives (or have stayed I should say). Now I think it could just as easily be on the Eaton estate of D of W.as the mileage from base to either is 10miles and 25miles.
I have not heard of any movement in that area yet.
Perhaps its true or perhaps it isnt true.
I watched the TV show on Channel 4 and I was surprised at the content because it really was all old stuff regurgitated with most of it having been mentioned or posted on BRW over the months. I was however taken aback by one or two suggestive or uncalled for remarks towards the end.
However I’m sure these comments will be taken apart by many but I hope they are not speculated about here.
I have very mixed thoughts at present because beaviour patterns have changed over the past 6 to 8 months.
Thinking it over, I was reminded of a play I saw in Oxford about 8 or 9 months ago called ‘Blackbird’ when the female half of the cast made one of the most emotional comments I have ever heard when she said;
“You left me.
You left me in love.”
I so hope that KM never has to say that.
January 28th, 2009 17:39
Ked, why would PC need to enterupt PW vacay plans and possibly KM, just to have them come together to tell them about PH? Could he have not called them instead? The other site says PH already has another girl. Have you heard that too?
January 28th, 2009 17:40
Ked, my friend I’m sure whatever went down at Birkhall was a good thing. But it really made me think a lot with them going to Birkhall and then him staying at her home. These books that due to come out this spring and Ingrid Seward’s comment is all so interesting. As I celebrated the New Year, I started to wonder if this year is it. Then all of this stuff started to happen, I just can’t help but get alittle excited about these two.
January 28th, 2009 18:04
Rman,
A few months ago I was as enthusiastic as you that PW and KM were destined to be together.
What I could not understand was, that as PW continued to go against Royal protocol in many matters that seemed to be advantageous to himself , he never once came to her defense or protection in the most vile of circumstances, the defense being that it was against Royal potocol to comment on unattached friends. (By unattached read not engaged).
As PW went against the norm in many respects , he would not go against it to protect the reputation and feelings of a person he is assumed to be in love with.
That to me was beyond my comprehension and even belief as I know how I would personally react given similar circumstances. (I am not assuming my circumstances to be in any way the same as PW), but as a man I would react.
He didn’t and I couldn’t understand why.
I then becan to view other matters a little more deeply and started to see flaws in his conduct.
That almost destroyed any enthusiasm and respect that I may previously have accepted as the norm.
January 28th, 2009 18:23
Ked, why is KM still in hiding? Has her spirit been broke or does she feel no one respects her or will love her? I don’t have tremendous amount of respect for him either because he will not put an end to the rubbish and if he has no plans to marry set her free!
January 28th, 2009 18:39
Ked, William just simply ignores it. That is what the press wants, to get something out of him. It’s not about do he love her, we have seen that he do lover her. William responds in his own way without words and press releases. Just when people think their relationship is going bad, William & Kate makes some appearences or Kate appears with the royal family or on one of the estates. I think back to that interview Prince Andrew gave last year and he said that the number one rule the royal family tries to follow is you don’t talk to the press about personal things. If they are requesting some info on some charities or some project, it’s fine but other than that, you just don’t talk. I know Ked it’s hard for us to understand because if the press was talking about our girlfriends with disrespect, we have the right to tell the press to “stick it where the sun don’t shine” or “go to Hell.” But William & Harry can’t do that. That’s one other bad part of being in their position. The only thing they can do is keep going and ignore the gossip. No matter what is said about Kate, she continues to keep her head up and get on with her life.
January 28th, 2009 18:46
Ked…This TERRIBLE! TERRIBLE! How can we not discuss the docu? JW & RK implied what I have been thinking for some time. What fuelled it was when PW showed he was reluctant to take up full time royal duties.
I am still new to this site compared to other members, therefore, I was not aware of your previous postings untill this evening. How can we not talk about it. I have to get it off my chest.
ME THINKS WILLIAM HAS A TOUCH OF THE DUKE OF WINDSOR ABOUT HIM.
God only knows what has set it off. I’ve just been viewing ‘Pampers Forum’, and what they are saying is disgusting, vile…..
Ked have you seen the other site, look under the heading of docu. None of them have seen it and I am reluctant to tell them how.
This site wants to make you share things whereas the other one wants to make me throw up.
gracie…I feel about W the way you do. How awful. Poor, poor Kate.
I just want to cry.
January 28th, 2009 18:46
But this year is full of promise and we can’t let Harry & Chelsy’s split get us down and our hopes up. William & Kate are fine, they have showed us that. Just keep you fingers crossed and keep the faith guys. That’s all we can do.
January 28th, 2009 18:52
Don’t cry Hale, all is well. I get the feeling that this new team at St. James’s Palace is cooking up something good.
January 28th, 2009 19:02
I hope this new site will enable us to ask questions.
Meanwhile, I am seriously considering writing to CH, BP and St James informing them what ‘Pampers’ are saying.
If they don’t know already.
GOD….Roll on February PLEASE.
‘You left me, You left me in Love’. TERRIBLE! TERRIBLE!
January 28th, 2009 19:04
Lisa…are you there? what do you make of all this?
Alsgal…we/I desperately need your humour.
January 28th, 2009 19:10
Hale, I think RK and JW have more to lose by making those statements. What puzzled me more is why KM goes along w/it, because from where I sit I think she would gain more respect if she left and stopped the pre-arranged photo-ops. Now that PH and CD broke, it puts the spotlight on why she’s stays.
January 28th, 2009 19:13
but then the press wins.
Kate Middleton has shown to be more powerfull with her stiff upper lip.
January 28th, 2009 19:20
Here is a link to a photo of the young D of W.
http://tinyurl.com/ccddku
January 28th, 2009 19:22
Me…Well done, your quite right. It is awful the vile things said about K, and yes if it’s one thing you really need where the press are concerned is a stiff upper lip plus dignity and decorum, all of which K has admirably in spades.
But whilst I would welcome Kate as a future Q of E, I am having my doubts about W as a future K of E, for not stepping in and showing her more support. As Ked said, you’d think as a man W would react.
In other words, I feel Kate is too good for William.
January 28th, 2009 19:38
Thanks Phoebe. I always thought that W used to look like his mother, but now I think he resembles his great great grandmother Queen Mary.
Dare I say it, but as someone intrested in Sun signs and the like, both the D of W & W are Cancerians.
January 28th, 2009 19:40
Well Me you are right, although they try to pluck Kate’s nerves, she keeps her mouth closed and just keep on going. Now on the other royal sites, bloggers rips her another hole because she ignores all of this and keep her head up which think is terrible and the recent short, very distasteful doc was something they worshiped. When these two marry, I get the feeling that Kate will do very little to no interviews. Maybe one for the engagement but not much after that.
January 28th, 2009 19:40
And Pippa M. bears a strong resemblance to Wallis Simpson. Is there anything in this? (Just kidding).
January 28th, 2009 19:41
Maybe KM and PH will get together! The press would hate it though. Their astro signs are good together. Lady Sarah dated PC and then Diana married him.
January 28th, 2009 19:47
Here is a picture of the young Princess Victoria Mary of Teck. I think I see a little of PH in her. (Look at the size of her waist! Gasp!)
http://tinyurl.com/bdr3xe
January 28th, 2009 19:51
DL from the Sun is running the same article about being allergic to horses. I’m surprised it’s taken them 5yrs to find this out. Have they not heard of allergy medications or injections to help w/the symptoms. I am so sick of these stupid stories that just make KM look bad. Well I guess that means that PW ended it cause she’s allergic to horses.
January 28th, 2009 19:59
LOL, Gracie I guess so huh. LOL. But then at the bottom of the artical he writes that she said that in a interview. He makes it sound like she gave a interview to that author which we know Kate has never given a interview and the author mentioned that in a interview that she gave, not Kate.
January 28th, 2009 20:03
The Queen reminds me a lot of her grandmother Queen Mary. Actually Queen Mary is the one who taught The Queen how to inspect troops and not to smile that often. As The Queen gets older, she looks more like her and her late mother.
January 28th, 2009 20:04
gracie,
I’d never heard about KM and her allergy but may explain why there doesn’t seem to be any stables at their home in Bucklebury.
I used to have hay fever and allergies to animals when young but series of jabs each January for a couple of years cured me.
January 28th, 2009 20:07
The Middletons don’t strike me as the horsey set. Horses are an expensive hobby, and an acquired taste.
January 28th, 2009 21:26
KM must like them to a certain degree cause she’s almost always at his matches. On the other hand, PM has said she does not care to much for polo and that’s probably why you don’t see her there as much. KM does not have to enjoy everything PW envolved in, but she still shows she cares and respects his interest by sitting at those matches all day, in the sun, rain, etc. I am sure the Midds have money if they wanted to pursue horses or maybe they already do. My daughter takes English riding lessons and I am no millionaress. She loves horses so much that even w/allergies she continues to ride.
January 28th, 2009 21:47
If you go by what they are saying over there, PH has another girl. Would he date Holly Branson or vice versa? Gabriella Calthorpe is lovely as well, but I think he might like a girl who can get dirty sometimes and I’m not sure she’s that type. I hope she’s not the girl he was shooting w/as she did not look to attractive to me. Sort of reminded me of a younger Camillia.
January 28th, 2009 22:19
Phoebe, you’re darn right horses are an aquired taste — I had a horse burger once in Italy and frankly, I’ll be sticking with the Big Mac from now on.
Gracie, my sense is that DL from the Sun is not a trained medical professional, and maybe not even a trained journalist, so that may be the reason he is in the dark about allergy issues.
As DL seems to have been used as a mouthpiece over the past year, I’d think what he says has a little more credibility than the average hack. Although, this is the Sun and not National Geographic, although both feature native women with bare breasts.
Question is, why bring this up now especially as the polo season isn’t going to start for several months? Hopefully, this won’t stop Kate from attending the races at Cheltenham, as I always look to her for my own tartan inspiration.
Hale, PW does indeed resemble Queen Mary and let’s hope that if he truly also resembles the old Duke of Windsor, that Kate has been practicing her special “butterfly clasp” technique.
January 29th, 2009 00:00
Whew! Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. LOL. Dare I imagine what will happen when something BIG happens! Steven better sure up his site and increase that ever important bandwidth.
really, I think we are beating a dead horse here with the allergy thing
BTW..ked, do you realize you have changed your story about why W/K were at Birkhall about 3 times since it happened?
Still looking forward to febuary!
January 29th, 2009 01:56
LOL. Lisa I think the problem is the British Royal family is very well respected but they are too damn famous. Please excuse my language. Being that famous as they are, has made them very vulnerable to everything. I don’t think the other royal families in Europe mind that because it takes pressure and attention off of them. But it’s something about the British royals that people can’t get enough of and movies are made about them, documentaries are produced about them and people always think there is some kind of conspiracy going on. When it comes down to William & Kate, they are just a couple going about their lives and there aren’t any big conspiracies going on but because they are so out there and famous, they have become very vulnerable to all sorts of theories. I think this is the major reason why they don’t talk about their private lives, they can protect that, everything else is just out there. I hope these two books that are due to come out in the spring will help shed some heavenly light on all of this and make it known that these two are in love and taking their relationship one day at a time.