Kate & Wills Royal Wedding looks increasingly likely
January 29th, 2009 | Posted in: Kate Middleton, Prince William, Royal Wedding
A royal wedding is looking increasingly likely; royal correspondents and photographers have been obsessively decoding the dates of official engagements to work out when the free window will be. Many are convinced it will take place later this year.
Even if we have to wait longer, that doesn’t mean much – it’s in the nature of modern couples to break up, get back together and then linger on into their thirties before the church – or abbey – is booked.
In many ways, Kate and William are conducting a classic modern romance. That said, a source close to the prince told me that their brief split was just “a strange stunt to throw off the press”.
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Hello,
BRW, It’s an interesting introductory article and one to bring joy to all of us on here.
However, if it is to happen at all my view is of a slightly longer wait with an engagement say in Jan/Feb 2014 with a marriage traditionally in the May or July following.
As PW had his initial retraining of six months or so added onto the 18 month S and R course he will become operational in S and R early in 2011. If he is commiitted to this project he will then serve a tour of 3 years mainly in UK its true but will have several overseas tours to Falklands , Cyprus and possibly other non war zones during these 3 years.
He already has constitutional and Presedential duties with the Football Association and the Welsh Rugby Team which reportedly have to fitted into his six week annual leave periods.
To bring KM into the RF and the attendant duties before his RAF stint is completed would be very hard on a wife who so far has no introduction to Public appearances and could lead to problems.
You may recall that that Diana needed support from PC for her puplic appearances for over two years before nturing on her own and KM would need the same attention. How can PW be supportive if he in training for and later operational in a stress related service.
It surely would be a recipe for disaster for KM despite her strength and determination.
I seriously believe that we are in for the long haul with the hope that all will remain well for the couple over the long periods of separation.
ked do you seriously believe they are going to wait another 5 years to get engaged??? William has an obligation to produce heirs and there is no way the family are going to allow him to start making babies with a bride in her early 30′s. They will want seamless pregnancies. If he does not marry Kate by the time she is 30, he will marry someone else. Regardless of what these other bloggers are saying, I am still pretty convinced that the RAF thing did not derail their plans except to maybe change a date so no accommodation had to be made on the part of the RAF. William’s decision may have been a surprise to you, it may have been a surprise to the blogger at the other site who thought he had the inside track(surprise, he don’t know JACK)and it may have been a surprise to some of the palace flunkies, but you can rest assured, it was no surprise to Kate Middleton.
Great article
Lisa,
Believe me, it was!
ked,I’m sorry but unless you know Kate personally, there is no way you can state that this was a surprise to her..but anyway,we have rehashed this issue time and time again so I think we should put it to rest. Hopefully within a few weeks,all will be revealed and we will be celebrating!
How nice it is to finally read something positive about KM!!
Ked – you have to remember Diana was only 21 when she married PC. KM is much older, more mature and wiser. KM is not going into a “Fairy Tale” relationship like Diana thought she was then to later find out PC was in love with someone else. KM & PW seem to have a real modern relationship – based on real love, friendship and trust.
I think KM & PW will make a wonderful royal couple and bring hope to everyone. I think it would be great for them to be married while he is in the military and live in a cottage some where and not do any royal duties right away. I think all those royal duties put too much pressure on the young Diana.
good thoughts,kd. Looking at this article again, I noticed they quote both Miguel Head,William’s PR guy and Huge Vickers, a respected royal biographer. I wonder if Vickers,too, is writing a book on William and Kate or maybe Kate?
That documentary has painted PW in a negative light. It would be in RF best interest to marry him off at this time, so that further rumors start to fly. KM will be given her own PA who will be trained in helping her w/protocol and social events, charities, etc. PW would not train her on these things that much anyway. Camilla still does not do the amount of work the RF wants her to do and she started of slow and gradually to more on. If they can make Camilla look like she knows what she’s doing, then why can’t they do the same for KM?
gracie,I would not want William to be married to thwart the vague allegations in that documentary. He should marry for love and love only. The argument that ked makes regarding Kate’s fate during William’s military career doe not hold water for me. Kate will be fine. I have no doubt that she has been receiving some sort of information as to the expectations and what the first six months of her marriage will hold. It will not surprise me if Kate becomes pregnant quite shortly after.As Ingrid Steward mentioned,it would almost be expected.
ALSGAL…Thank you so much.
YAY! HORRAY! Finally, some good news.
As to the line, that when they split up it was some stunt to throw off the press, I’m not buying it.
However, I do think it’s a sign that the PR has begun for this ‘couple’. Kate has had to absorb so much even I’m pulling my hair out.
YES!…YES…A good excuse to go buy a new hat. This has cheered me up no end..YIPPEE!
All is well on the lawnchair today.
The Daily Telegraph is a well-respected source and it sounds as if RKay and JWhitaker, although both having served as mouthpieces for the late Diana, apparently know absolutely nothing about the state of William and Kate.
I see nothing wrong with them marrying whilst PW is in the RAF as Kate’s confidence knows no bounds and she doesn’t seem like the sort to harbor the unfortunate self-doubt that plagues so many other people who have not been adored and pampered since birth. It is obvious that Kate’s confidence and sense of entitlement, which comes not from personal achievement but from having a loving and protective family, will serve her well in a family whose members also don’t have to work for a living, and whose members are smart enough to know just how special they are compared to everyone else. I really can’t think of a more perfect bride for William than what he has in Kate. Well done, Mike and Carole, well done!
Although perhaps other than having her basic uni degree, Kate is perhaps a throwback to the 90s — the 1890′s — let’s not forget Monarchy is an ancient institution and someone with so-called “modern ambitions” would probably not be much of an asset.
What is needed of a young Royal bride? Attractiveness (check)
(check)
Fertility (check)
Ability to “think of England”
Politeness to the People Who Matter (check)
Discretion (only leaking the unimportant stuff)
Ability to dress tastefully (check)
Ability to accept flowers, sit, and chat (check)
Kate has got it all, and let’s face it, she’s not going to be doing brain surgery on those walkabouts, so why waste the time learning useless skills?
I think that pretty much covers it, or have I left anything out?
How about the ability to keep the prince very very happy?
This couple is not going to wait five more years to marry, sorry but I have been saying that all along. This S and R decision did not throw Kate off into the “abyss” of unknown. She wasn’t clueless like the media and public was. I’m glad that she is being recognized for being strong and focused because a lot of the tabs and bloggers try to make her out to be weak and dumb.
I like this quote:
“When we think of Kate Middleton, she’s just an image. We don’t know any of her opinions, and we’ve never heard her voice. We’ve heard a lot of gossip about her, but have no real insight into her character.”
Which is so true and when you read some of the post on the OTHER sites, they really feel like they have sumed her up. They created this image “waity Katie” and they think that is it. But like I said awhile back that there is a mystery bubble that surrounds her and even I would like to see who this person really is, I want to know what her voice sound like and etc. When Diana was being chased around London, I think it was Carol Barnes that asked her some questions and the mic would pick up her voice, with Kate you get nothing.
I truly believe St. James’s Palace is getting down to work and something is in the works. But Diana was a inspiration to many people and I think the royal experts knew that William’s future wife was going to be compared to his late mother. I always said that Diana step up the role of the Princess of Wales title and more things can be done with that position than just being by your husbands side and two steps behind the Prince of Wales. If royal aides unleashed Kate into the charity world, I think this woman would blow people away and those special qualities that she has would do some good. But somebody have to break the lock on her cage.
Lisa, that’s the lie back and “think of England” bit.
Rman, I’m sure Kate could do anything she sets her mind to, such as charitable work, but perhaps PW actually likes that “lock on her cage” as you put it so well?
Consider this: his Papa’s first wife, though dynamic, hardworking and loved by many, did not make Papa happy.
Papa’s second wife, although called the “laziest woman in Enfgland” by Mark Bolland, and who has been rather slow since marrying her Prince to step up her charitable efforts, makes Papa happy.
Now, I am not comparing Kate to Camilla in any negative sense, as Kate is no adulteress. Nor is she blonde. But she seems quite easygoing, compliant, “available” if you know what I mean
, and doesn’t upstage/compete with her Prince by having too many accomplishments. That type of woman has made PC very happy, and it obviously must makes his son happy, too.
Ultimately, that’s all that matters, as Royal brides are not chosen by the popular vote.
alsgal, you are simply too much! here’s to lying back and thinking of England! Cheers!
Alsgal
You make a very good point about Diana and Camilla. I hope the PR machine at SJP is starting to spin into action!!! Gosh flights home to England are going to be expensive.. I’m trying not to get ahead of myself here!!!
Although in general I would credit something reported by the telegraph before the DM, I must point to the previous entry on this site which notes that, apparently, the telegraph reported that Paris Hilton became friends with CD while she was in London. Sorry, that I don’t buy.
Alsgal, I do get the feeling that William likes to have Kate to himself and don’t like to share her with us that much, which I get because if I would want Kate to myself too, and I mean that but anyway back to my point. He can let go of her a bit and let her show us what she’s made of. Not all that much but she could give us a little taste of those special qualities. But I totally understand what you mean and Charles does like it to have Camilla a little behind him and beside him, instead of infront of him. I think Diana would have never been infront of him if he did his job as a husband properly. In some way, the royal family and Charles put Diana in a shell and the only way she could breath was to break out of that shell. So William and the royal aides will have to be very careful to not put her in a bottle with no holes because that is not something that would be good. But I don’t know why I’m saying this because Kate may look all sweet and everything but she also look like she can do a couple of Bruce Lee moves and I don’t think she is a force to be reckoned with.
I never believed Kate and William broke up. It was too coincidental the Press were put in their place by her father when he instructed royal lawyers. It was at the time she got special price Audi car.
I believe they will get engaged on his 27th birthday and we will have wedding October this year to coincide with new Bank holiday.
That looks good for lousy Labour government
Ummm, the Telegraph story is (borrowed? copied? ripped off?) Reader’s Digest… Since when did Readers Digest become a reliable source?
Maybe Kate should take a good close look at this Daily Mail article; it did make me laugh (scroll down to “The age-old he’s not ready excuse” (then again, I suppose the rules are slightly different for the Royal Family):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1131222/Face-hes-just-The-hilariously-brutal-dating-advice-new-smash-hit-rom-com.html
I guess the PR is really kicking in.
Here is a new artical called Britain’s Royals Roll With The Times
The Queen and her Princes Charles, Harry and William: the Royal Family in the 21st Century
http://abcnews.go.com/International/AroundTheWorld/Story?id=6433211&page=1
Kate is well enough informed how to behave on royal occasions; she attended P Anns sons wedding alone, and another royal wedding alone. She was doing trial run and coped.She is well in with all the royals of her generation .
It appears she comes from strong family background with public school education.
Since she was 21 she has learned royal protocol.
He is lucky she wants him
I think if KM marries PW she will always look great, she will have gorgeous, healthy children, and she will always appear cheerful. I don’t think she will do more than that. She certainly won’t be another Diana, or a Maxima, or a Rania, for that matter. I don’t think the RF wants her to be, and to be honest, wouldn’t her most important job be mother to her children? Has anyone seen a picture of Rania’s children in which they look happy?
Looking at the long term picture. Charles is 60 and if he lives as long as the Queen Mother, that means that William could be 65 before he would become king. Another reason to have a career away from royalty. There are always rumblings about abolishing the monarchy, so then he would need that career to occupy himself. I hope Williams and Kate get married and spend time in the military, before starting royal duties. A chance to be normal and away from the paps.
Depending on when Charles becomes king, that will be when William becomes Prince of Wales. It can’t happen before that. Queen Elizabeth has said that the time Phillip was in service was the happiest time for them.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again, his military committments are not a bar to their marrying sooner rather than later. People in the military get married all the time. It’s not like in most military families, Ms. Middleton would be married then left to fend for herself in her new life. She would have people. Hopefully, people who learned from the Princess Diana and Duchess of York debacles and don’t act all snobbish but genuinely try to help.
I think this is the year.
The Readers Digest is one of the worlds top respected magazines around and it’s very reliable. I know Sojourner, that the other site is trying to throw this artical in the garbage but do tell the other sites that this info is very reliable.
William saw what his mother went through and he would not leave Kate just hanging there after their marriage. She will have her family and others around her. They will support her and William will be there too, he’s not in prison and talking to her behind a thick glass.
I can’t seem to find a connection, but it may be that the Barclay brothers are involved in the consortium that bought out RD.
Sorry to disagree with you, Rman, but I don’t find the RD reliable at all. They tend to latch on to whatever crank fad is going at the time, despite a professed conservative editorial policy.
I’m saying that the magazine is very reliable. But for it to be in The Telegraph, that’s something else.
there is absolutely nothing new in that article!
it’s a re-hash of posts posted here…..
even recent musings about the late spring/early summer 2009 calendar and windows of opportunity for a wedding were posted here…..
methinks lots of these ‘news’ articles are summaries of blog posts
bottom line: this is just a filler article, total fluff…
the blogs feed off the ‘press’ and the ‘press’ feeds off the blogs, round and round….
The opinions expressed in the earlier posting are my own, Rman LOL
I question the veracity of the wildly optimistic RD piece, just as I question the motives of recent mean-spirited specious reporting. But maybe I should just cease all thinking and join in the lawn chair celebrations (or at least I will as soon as it gets warmer!)
Well we will see, the point is that everything is okay with the couple. That’s the important thing.
I was wondering when Neil Sean was going to say something about Harry &n Chelsy’s split. Not sure that I totally agree with him though.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/29/entertainment/main4761588.shtml
I think he’s right about the living-in-Africa part. PH has expressed a desire to live there in the past.
That’s the part that threw me off because I thought it was impossible for him to live in Africa.
but that is precisely what the article says: nice dream but impossible in reality… l-{
Well I don’t know that it is impossible Rman why couldn’t Prince Harry live in Africa?? He is third in line to the throne. I don’t see why 6 months in Africa 6 months in England couldn’t have worked?? There is no real need for Harry to be in England unless something happened to William and his father?
I’ve always felt that it would be a good thing for PH to spend time/live part-time in Africa, if that’s what he wanted. It’s unlikely he will ever be king, and it would highlight a part of the world which has been neglected for far too long (and where the future is, IMO).
Well I guess that makes sense. He could do a lot of good down there.
Harry has stated that he wants to fly to go back to the War, he wants and he will fulfill his duties as it should be with the country, UK and the Monarchy. He is a true Prince.
Chelsy thought differently, sorry.
I think Harry is great and truly genuine in his actions.
what are the sources for this article. Meaning how does the article know that PW and KM for sure are going to marry this year? Is there something new going around for this couple for this article to say they are going to marry? I dont see anything new like to think they are going to get married. Probably there is but we dont know whether there is or isnt so this article shoul not be advertising about this couple getting married this yr if they dont know what they are talking about. PW is training and there is no way he can commit to both marriage and training. If there is any wedding coming, I dont think it will be pretty soon.
I am getting tired of the media always saying the same thing. They always advertise that they are getting married. Jerks, you should just focus on something else. Boring, seriously.
The press advertise on a heavier matter bad viewed articles vs. the good viewed articles.
Therefore the press seems to be at war, nevertheless The Telegraph other then being a broadsheet, not a tabloid, is pro monarchy. There is some really bad viewed articles that are pro republican.
When you see articles that describe Kate as Middle Road, Middle mediocre, there is absolutely no seriousness there, which cannot be described as either bad but plain ridiculous.
Hi All!….I’ve been surfin’ the net for hats. Unfortunately, they’re either black or pastel.
Meanwhile, I’ve scrolled back and read all the posts, and should like to point out something that I think people have forgotten.
I agree with those who do not see William’s stint in the RAF as a drawback to his getting married.
Take note, that when the Princess Elizabeth as she was then married Prince Phillip in 1947, PP was a serving member of the Royal Navy. The then PE also lived in married quarters, when PP was stationed in Malta. PP remained a serving RN officer and was tipped for an Admiral’s post before the King George VI died in Feb 52.
So you see there is no drawback to W remaining in the RAF.
However, as I think he’s going to be King one day, and I am aware that he is intrested in serving 7 years, I doubt that will happen. Mainly because he has a lot to learn in order to become King.
Contrary to what people may think, it is not all ribbon cutting.
Meanwhile, Ked I do not understand why, if they do rent a house, why should it be in Cheshire, when they could easily rent a place in Shropshire which would be even nearer to where W is stationed, and where PH will also be posted following his completed course in Hampshire?
Advice Please…about the hats, do you think I should go for the black or the pastels?
pastels
it’s getting toward late winter and soon spring….
i have the same quandry about a handbag…black or some brighter color….i think the brighter….
Pastels Hale. Aretha Franklin sent people crazy over her hat she wore at President Obama’s inauguration. The hate was made by Mr. Song and everybody wanted a hat like it but he made that just for her but his site is booming with requests. I don’t know much about hats but he can make a woman look good. I think the royals need to give him a call.
Checkout his site.
http://www.mrsongmillinery.com/
The man can get married and train at the same time. I don’t know why we have to go over this again and again. Something is in the works at SJP.
Rman,
BUT, Km deserves his attention full time. She’s earned it.
Training to Fly in helicopters and especially training to fly helicopters in S and R needs to receive full time concentration without distractions. An ngagement,wedding and a new wife and responsibilities is a distraction.
Any lapse in concentration in these stress situations could cause loss of life. (yes LIFE).
The Pilot, his Crewe, his ‘customers’ who are usually placed in dangerous situations.
Is it fair to KM to put that burden on her?
Is it fair to PW to be in such a situation ?
He has made a decision and I hope that he made that decision for the best of reasons, He has duties to carry out and for the time being he has abrogated his duty to KM .
If they are for one another , she’ll be there until 2014 , if not they will go there ways but by deciding on S and R against Royal,Monarchal and Constitutional Duties he has a duty to carry them out faithfully and zealously with his mind fully on this , his chosen path.
Sorry spelling etc;
KM not Km
Their not there.
Apologies
There is no way, any female who marries into the royal family is going to get full attention. They will be put on the civil list, and as you should know Ked, we British tax payers demand our pound of flesh.
Now we all know Kate, for the past several years has been forced to endure the horrible things said about her and her family, and she has shown that she has grit, determination and tenacity, all with an english rose smile. Perfect royal candidate as far as I’m concerned.
She will require all those resources to get her through the public marriage she will embark on.
As I said in my posting at 16:37, Q was a naval officer’s wife before she ascended the throne. Therefore and excellent role model for Kate.
Anastasia and Rman…Many thanks for your good advice. Pastels it shall be.
Oh please. I can bet there is at LEAST one other officer currently in the S &R training who is recently engaged and planning a wedding. Unlikely Prince William, that officer doesn’t have a ton of people to handle the details like invitations, decorations, the band, the food, booking the church, booking the hall, etc. Plus, the new fiancee/wife doesn’t have the same support system that Ms. Middleton will have. Yet, where is the concern that the other officer will be distracted and kill someone.
Prince William, while not doubting his commitment to the Armed Forces in the least, is not really treated “just like any officer.” He can go off-base a lot more because of Royal commitments, he has a bodyguard with him, he has people to handle his mail, etc. Trust me, if they decide to marry, the Armed Forces — at the request of Her Royal Majesty the Queen, will fit it into his duties.
rosettaresearch….good post.
Hope this link works. Found it on your tube, don’t know if it’s been posted here before.
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3BIADwZeCHA
God….what am I doing wrong, I thought I had cracked the linking.
Just one more go…..sorry BRW
youtube.com/watch?v=3BIADwZeCHA
I give up.
Ked, my friend I’m afraid you have gone off the deep end a bit. Do you know how many people who are serving this country and other countries are engaged? William is not stressing about wedding plans we all know The Duke of Norfolk will handle that. If the announcement comes soon, that will be great. If it comes later, it will be great. But no, it will not be a distraction if it’s announced soon. William will not kill anybody and William will have the time to do this. I believe that is the plan that they have anyway. But we must remain patient and not make this sound all that difficult. William & Kate are strong people and they will get through this. There’s a lot of excitement in the air and I think we should continue to wish these two love birds well.
Ked…..Just out of curiosity, what is your occupation?
Dear BRW…I gave up on trying to link to you tube, but then I remembered that i am suscribed to you so hopefuly you will get that way.
Hale, this should be your you tube link.
http://tinyurl.com/bfehya
Hi Hale,
For a link to appear you just need to make sure that it has http:// at the start of the address.
Like this;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3BIADwZeCHA
Thanks to maddie for posting the correct link!
Rman, will it be the Duke of Norfolk handling the wedding arrangements or Sir Michael Fawcett? I would think Sir Mike’s sheer floral talent should enable him to get the job done, plus there is the added benefit that he can help Kate get rid of any wedding gifts deemed too tacky, both quickly and quietly.
Sojourner, no need to wait for the warm weather — Alsgal’s lawnchair is feeling plenty warm tonight after half a bottle of Queen Vicky’s Bombay Best.
Ked, PW will have to learn how to separate home from work, if he can not than he will not be able to be a pilot. Pilots don’t remain single for their time in and most have families w/issues,etc. that they have to leave at home once they get in the heli. My dad flew helicopters in Vietnam and through a private carrier when he retired and they have to learn how to adapt under stress, that’s why its hard to make it as a pilot. It takes a special person, who can react quickly and be calm to get the job done. Surgeons do the same thing everyday.
Why didn’t we see PW do the cage test like PH? That’s a requirement for all trainee pilots.
Alsgal, I thought the Duke of Norfolk handle these weddings. I know that’s one of his official roles including coronations.
Maddie…Thank you, but where on earth did you get that link address from?
According to this webpage: http://hereditarytitles.com/Page5.html the Earl Marshall is not responsible for Royal Weddings. Isn’t it the Royal Chamberlain?
We must find the answer to this burning question if Prince William and Ms. Middleton are ever to marry.
Ked that’s the best one I’ve heard yet. He can’t get marriedbecause he may die because he can’t concentrate. I think Wills will have very little to do with the actual wedding day it’s self. He is RICH & that’s what rich people have flunkies for. I’m hoping it’s just a matter of time. It’s better than another site which shall remain un named which stated that Wills only got a house so he could party with his mates. How ridiculously juvenille. The site also said that they couldnt see Kate driving up much to see William. How pathetic us that. Methonks someone has an axe to grind. Someone needs to sue!
jj, I personally don’t think Kate will be doing much driving to that house because it is my guess that she will be staying there most of the time.
I agree also,the idea that he would be too distracted to fly because he is engaged is silly. If he is that easily distracted,then he should not be flying,period.
I am with rosetta in this one. The military seems to have tweaked their rules ever-so-slightly in the past, [heli to stag party, anyone?], and seem to be doing so in the present [verdict is still out on eyesight/color-challenged -gate
]. Therefore there is no reason to suspect that in the future he will be treated as if he were “Average Joe” officer [which under British Law he isn't, after all].
Alsgal, cheers to you and Vicky! I’ll be sharing my chair with Lillet…
I found one website that said the Duke of Norfolk does not handle royal weddings. Is it the Lord Chamberlain then?
We must settle this burning question or Prince William and Ms. Middleton may never wed.
I’m sorry, it is the Lord Chamberlain who handles weddings. Somehow I thought it was the Duke of Norfolk. The current Lord Chamberlain is Lord Peel.
These posts are great! Better than the tele!
Good point Lisa!!! I’m still thinking it will be December before anything is announced…
or never.
Was there any new news in the Telegraph article? I couldn’t find any. Why so much excitement, then? Still no clear signs of marriage between KM and PW, IMO.
i think it would be posible to get engaged since PW is on training.how did you tell that they were engaged already? any proof? or any evidence? when? and where they exactly engaged.why did kate dont have a pics several months ago? her last picture was in the balmoram castle which she spend a lot of quality time with wills before her birthday. what is the website of the party pieces?
BRW…Thank you so much, I will try having a go with another link by way of a test run.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.
The Telegraph artical wasn’t any big news but that 2009 is looking bright for an announcement.
There is no way William and Kate would have spen 5 days in Scotland with Prince Charles and his wife; then Williams car been visible for all to se at the Middletons house for birthday dinner of Kate. They would not have been photographed getting off plane from Scotland together unless they wanted us all to know. My view they are unoficially engaged. It really is their business and not ours
This is the Royal family. They don’t do unofficial engagments. Especially not for the heir apparent. Even if they have an understanding and are just waiting for approval, they are not engaged. When they are engaged, there will be an announcement in the Buckingham Palace Gardens. Give it a couple of weeks. It will be a summer wedding for someone this important, since they need good weather for the crowds. To do a summer wedding this year, the announcement needs to be soon.
I remember when Prince Charles bought Highgrove, it was taken as a sign he was looking to get married soon. Which it was. Now, Prince William is renting a place near his base so his wife can be nearby while he traines. Rather than do the weekend thing that drove the Duchess of York nuts.
Understanding or unofficial same in my book.
Obvious Kate not going to Vogue US which was a red herring
Signs official announcement
Scotland after Xmas
Birthday with car visible
Getting off plane togeter
ueen letting credi crunch slip; she never lets things slip
1. She has been upto Scotland many times before
2. What boyfriend doesn’t visit his girlfriend on her birthday whether they have been dating for 5 weeks or 5 years?
3. We have seen them board or leave planes together before.
4. What are you referring to in your fourth point?
Guys, lets just remain patient on this because these two could be engaged now and not one of us will know until it’s announced.
Queen mentioning credit crunch is biggest hint imminent
It is probable that story was just rumour.
Well I think the wedding will be big but scaled down a bit. For Charles’s birthday, they had three parties but the dinner at Buckingham Palace wasn’t shown, just the arrivals. They didn’t want to show too much grandness.
Hello,
I think your getting priorities wrong.
The visit to Scotland and the visible car at KM’s
home was to attract attention.
Attract attention from the PH video and then from the split which I have a feeling just may be linked one way or another.
When ever Km and PW, of course, are in the papers all other news is subservient and I thought that by now the devious tricks of one or other would be transparent to all and sundry.
Don’t forgt you’r dealing with the masters of subterfuge with centuries of practice. In addion don’t forget the comment attributed to Diana for some of PW’s escapades and the shift of blame. That could be an answer to many of KM’s ongoing problems.
I think Jane’s 4th point is the strongest. Why would HRM say that Prince William would have a credit crunch wedding if it weren’t happening this year? By next year, who knows what the economy might be like (the economists sure don’t).
I’m sorry, to me, all the signs are there. I am so exicted, as you can tell from my now frequent posts here.
OK, Ked — I’m going to need some help with that last one, please — which comment attributed to Diana?
Rosetta, many suspect the economy is going to be in the crapper well into 2011, and seeing as the London Olympics are going to be in 2012, I’m not seeing any point in the two lovebirds waiting either, unless they move the wedding to Manchester.
Sure, it’ll appear extravagant to the working classes but so is living in half a dozen houses and owning lots of really, really nice linen. People haven’t been bothered by those things before, so I don’t think they will care if Sir Michael Fawcett decorates the wedding table with orchids instead of the much cheaper, and yet equally attractive, carnations.
Who doesn’t love a Royal Wedding, to be followed by the Royal Bump Watch, followed by a babe in arms, followed by tales of the first separate vacation, followed by the first tale of the overly familiar member of staff being a little too devoted in their service to the Crown? And so it goes.
It’s the Cycle of Life, really.
Sorry Ked you are dead wrong. I agree that the recent sightings of KM and PW were deliberate, but not for the reasons you state.
Not really Ked, but the most important thing is William & Kate let us know that they are doing fine and spent some good quality time together. That’s the big message here and nothing else mattered.
That video of Harry got more attention than William & Kate did. So if they tried to attract some attention to the couple, it didn’t work. William & Kate story was small potatoes to Harry’s video. What did work for Harry was his apology, a statement from his fellow cadet, PM Brown. That worked for Harry.
You are all forgetting remark from Carole Middleton about it may never happen and I have 3 children. That was deliberate; both families know when it will happen
I think they are waiting for more of the economic news to be out of the way and announcment will finally be made.
It will probably be made Valentines Day or after the March budget so we can read about Kate and William instead of vile budget comig up
Rosetta
You are actually incorrect. Diana and Charles were unofficially engaged for a couple of weeks at least while Charles went to Australia. He wanted to give her time to change her mind if she wanted. So unofficial engagements do in fact happen.
Ked, I too think that the video might be linked to PH breakup as well. Seems like the video came out after their holi, then after the video mess died down some, the breakup happens. Not to say, CD and PH were not having issue before perhaps w/her FB photos. From what I’ve read she was not prepared for him to join pilot training. If you go by what the other forums are saying both parties have moved on. So where does all this leave KM and PW? If he ends it, will it be soon why the CD and PH split is fresh? The thing is that PH and CD relationship has not been manipulated for the public like PW and KM and I believe PW will still not come out as clean as PH did.
Alsgal, DM reports the rise in maternity wedding dresses for women between the ages of 25-35. I understand that the economy is gloomy right now and most have been effected. I don’t think the RF has, so why not have a great wedding? I am a tad bit sensitive, but it seems as though if what the Queen said was true, maybe she does not warrent a huge wedding for PW cause he is not marrying an aristo? I could be wrong, but I think if her was exchanging vow w/Lady Dolittle she would make it a bigger affair, a coming of two well bred families of society. JMO.
Your JMO makes sense and coincides nicely with what I was thinking IMO, Gracie.
But do we know if the credit crunch wedding statement is true? There have been so many stories which seemed plausible that have been dashed of late, so it’s difficult to know what is real and what is not. For instance, look at the oft-cited proof of how serious KM and PW are as a couple because of the supposed fact that the Queen frequently goes riding with Kate at Windsor. And yet the horse allergy would discredit that –a horse allergy story that even Hello! covers this week. Perhaps the Queen and Kate do go riding at Windsor — but with Harleys and not horses, although I’m having a hard time picturing Kate on a motorcycle.
I still don’t get the allergy story being printed. Unless the press is trying to make KM out to be a liar. If my memory serves me correctly, there are photos of KM laughing w/Kathy Lettes at a polo match that took place months ago on TH. Seems kind of silly to bring it up now to me, much like PH video resurfacing after 3yrs. Maybe they too are related somehow? DM says the Lord of Shropshire shot himself and his lady, she in hospital, he dead. He bought the title for $2,000. Hope he rest in piece, what a small world.
Well Gracie, he’ll apparently be resting in many pieces, as it looks like he used a shotgun.
I agree, the timing of the allergy story is a bit suspect, although at least the rest of the story is claiming KM and PW are destined for the altar, which gives Alsgal a wee bit of hope in this very dark world.
Ked, why do you think Harry’s leaked tape and Chelsy being dumped is related? Do you suspect someone close to Chelsy leaked it…
If I may chime in here…on these rumors…I don’t think Kate rides with the queen mainly because I doubt the queen rides much if at all anymore. JMO. I am very doubtful about the supposed statement HM made regarding a “credit crunch” wedding. I can’t imagine who she would have said this to that would have repeated it. That being said,I don’t think if W/K marry this year it will be as splashy as it would have been if times were better,which will probably suit the bride and groom just fine! You can rest assured it will still be at either St Pauls or the Abbey and 300+ will attend. The allergy story seems off to me. My guess was that this person was intruding on Kate and she used a typical brush off line to get avoid further conversation and get the woman to buzz off,lol.
It still amazes me how much talk is generated from tabloid stories.
That’s all we can do is hope. Everything is going well with them which I’m glad to know.
Good Evening everyone.
Couple of things I should like to throw into the hat here.
1. Did anyone read the story of Harry munching at Little Chef? Ahhh Bless, he is my baby. Personally, I think he’s comfort eating, besides which you would have to pay me to eat there. Little Chef has bought in Heston Blumenthal to try and sought out their menu, it would’ve been much cheaper to bring in some bulldozer’s.
2. If the story about the house is true, then it should be remembered that when Harry finishes his training in Hampshire, he will be joining William in Shropshire. Therefore, I do not see this house as a ‘love nest’ more of a ‘shag fest’.
3. I do think Carole Middleton’s comments were deliberate to throw people of the scent.
4. I am aware some posters may have been disapointed with the above story, but I believe it is important. That line about a source close to the prince said the brief split between W & K was merely a stunt to throw off the press, I just don’t buy it. Does anyone else? However, iit is significant, it show’s W & H’s office kicking into gear, and the beginnings to dismiss any rumours of those who have ever had doubts of W & K alway’s being a couple.
That’s why I cheered up no end, after Ked made me cry. Roll on February. Catch up with you guy’s in an hour’s time, as I’m still surfing hat sites. Being an autumn person, I think deep lilac would be nice.
See ya….
Gracie, you can’t imagine Ms. Middleton on a motorycyle, I can’t imagine the QUEEN on one. hahahahaha.
The allergy story was printed because some people just have to say nasty things.
Oh I remember the joy when William was born. I am so looking forward to seeing him walk down the aisle. Not Westminster though, too many bad memories.
I agree, Lisa.
Even if it is a less glamorous wedding than those in the Eighties, it will still be a big wedding.
Not only the credit crunch would be a reason to have a less pompous wedding, but also the fact that both marriages of Diana and Sarah failed in the end. You can see it with all the weddings afterwards, already the wedding of Edward and Sophie was much more modest.
However, you can still look out for a new hat and call Jenny – a wedding of the princes will still have some glamour.
And the allergy story – yes, I think KM just wanted to get rid of her. LOL.
Well Lisa, my friend don’t let The Queen’s age fool you. She still rides. Infact here is some pictures of her riding with her groom, just last year.
http://tinyurl.com/aokvmp
But If that story is true that she is allergic then it’s not all that serious because she often stands near horses when she go to see William play.
other than William & Kate, I would love to see Andrew & Sarah get re-married. I don’t who this couple think they are fooling but they make sure they are still available and they still wear their wedding rings. They don’t live that far from each other and then are seen together often. Now I know they are good friend and good co-parents but something just seem funny with these two. They are both much wiser than when they was actually married and I think their marriage would be much more different than the fisrt time. That’s one of the reasons why Charles’s marriage works now, he’s more wiser and he knows what’s important.
Rman….It’s funny you should say that, I’ve always thought that. They met each other too early.
What I find incredible about these two is just after the split, they were still seen together, with their children laughing and joking.
It must surely rank as the most friendliest divorce ever.
I think Andrew would be kicked out of the RF if he remarried that godawful woman.
Oops….yes Phoebe I think your right, I forgot about the toe sucking as soon as I posted.
What about Andrew and KM?
It’s not just the toe-sucking. Go back and watch the video of Diana’s funeral and see what that woman does when Diana’s coffin goes past.
I do have the video, but do you no how long it is?
Please save me the time and tell me.
I just think Andrew & Sarah is a great couple and I all I can do is picture them together.
Well, don’t forget The Queen is very fond of Sarah and spends lots of time with her believe it or not.
Rman,
Has Claudius posted at all lately ?
Claudius posted until 2007 here and then first tremester of 2008 at RA. He was fedup with the bashing.
Me,
Thanks.
k
What’s RA, anyone please?
Ked, if I might ask why are you concerned about Claudius MIA? Look at Will he posted alot too and no longer does. In fact he was the one who mentioned PW meeting a girl at HB Christmas party 07.
Hale, RA=Royal Ancedotes is another blog. Think I misspelled it !
No, none of the people who use to post on here long ago, post anymore. But I always said that it left room for us to post. Phoebe, I watched the video and all I saw was Sarah bowing to the coffin with The Queen and members of the royal family. When I saw The Queen bow, I was blown away by that. I think it was said that she bowed out of respect for Diana and the role she played as a future monarch.
Ked,
I miss Claudius’s posts. He would have fought for Kate’s honor if necessary. He was a great advocate for her. I miss his posts. Also, Will hasn’t posted in a long time. He always used logic to get his points across. I think during that time Will always tried to be logical. He reminded me of you. Even when he delivered bad news, he did it with an almost grace. The last that I heard was that Will came over to the US to be with his wife. I think that Liz is her name. I wish them all well.
Rman, thank you for the link of the photo of Queen riding with her groom, but I must say that really does not look like Prince Philip to me.
Hale, it almost does seem like William has procured a bit of a Shopshire Sex Shack for Harry and himself, and one would hope, for the Pellmeister as well — but perhaps it really is more of a love nest for KM. Really, if I close my eyes, I can almost envision our two lovebirds planting petunias together on the weekends, as opposed to something so tasteless and revolting as William and his buddies playing Nude Twister with a couple of barmaids in the foyer.
Perish the thought.
Claudius still posts, he was just using 2 seperate names and is now down to one. If you look back at his posts there is another who makes the VERY same gramatical errors.
alsgal,
Inspired, as usual, though I fear that we will be hearing of SS Shropshire in the coming months and years…
The petunia plantings would be quite quaint and very old school. But this love shack — somehow or someway that I can\’t exactly pinpoint — has…. mistress written all over it! :-0
I know this is supposed to be the new, improved, modern RF, but I still think we are not up to Scandinavian standards yet.
(After all, what\’s a little toe-sucking among friends?)
I am happy to be convinced, but I really haven’t been feeling this arrangement without there first being an engagement.
sojourner/alsgal, good posts as always!
Alsgal, that comment was funny. Funny that we don’t see prince phillip ride.
Here are some pictures of Kate relatives. I really do like those pictures of william & Kate at the wedding.
http://tinyurl.com/6othj3
some more hilarious posts from Alsgal!
otherwise….i think everyone still posts on here, just using different aliases (sp?)
Hello everybody,
A friend of mine was thursday (jeudi) evening in london and saw Chelsy davy out (23 h – 11pm) she was friend girl friends and she looked tired and very sad and she has lost weight…
i mean she was with girl friends
Me: “Claudius posted until 2007 here and then first tremester of 2008 at RA. He was fedup with the bashing.”
I’m with him on that. Miss his posts. The feel of this site like others is changing somewhat.
That’s what he told me and to others. The constant bashing and terrible “negative” guessing games.
As a psycologist told me and its a general view – when people think, write, express verbally ideas of anything towards a negativity means that something wrong is with that persons life.
We really don’t know what privately goes on in the life of W&K, BUT when posters follow through like sheep towards negative articles…hmmmm and constantly follow through.
Psycologists: Better to be positive and “wish” well, then being negative.
Other than, there are many interesting articles that have popped up after the recent break up of Harry and Chelsy, written by psycologists, you may get ALL the CLUES there.
I will post the links of those articles on Monday, happy weekend.
Okay here is one before I’m off for the weekend.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/lifestyle-catchall/2009/01/27/time-apart-can-be-hard-86908-21074137/
A clue of balancing work with a relationship. You may see that W&K are doing precisely the balancing towards a relationship. A rented Pad by William.
Some people where focusing on the negatives towards the wrong couple. Harry and Chelsy sure had a “vulnerable” vacationship (relationship).
Totally agree with you Me. Really some very sad people in this world, to post negative, really nasty things, about Kate Middleton — a total stranger, and her family, who are not dating a public figure — on a daily and sometimes hourly basis for years is demented as far as I’m concerned.
I agree with you Me.
Hello,
BRW,
I have just tried to use google to access BRW and received a warning ” This site may harm your computer”
Has any one else experienced this?
I could only imagine how much work it took to find those long lost relatives of KM. If these reporters would put their heads together and focus on something they could find Bin Laden. Atleast her relatives seem respectable! I was doing research for my family tree and found out a relative served time at San Quentin and its not Charles Manson I promise.
Ked, no that has not happened to me, but I don’t use google much. The harm it warning you about is mental illness caused by too much RF info!
Ked,
I’m having the same problem!
Alsgal….Your posts are always a joy to read. LOL
Just realized that PC and DoC where visiting Hereford chapel. Looks similar to Windsor on the inside. I was looking on the Duchy of Cornwall site, and Harewood Park estate will not be available to rent until April 09 even though it’s finished. They are charging some steep rent for some of the remodel horse barns.
As mentioned in the article, kind of like Kate….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1133030/Harry-Glamorous-Chelsy-bounces-split-night-Boujis.html
I hope this is not a ploy like when PH went to Iraq and they broke up. I don’t think they really broke up, I think CH was distracting public away from knowing where PH was. They play to many games and then it start to become obvious what they are doing.
I wish it was a game.
Gracie, per chance is your relation up in the Marin County correctional facility also Richard Ramirez aka The Night Stalker? If so, that might make us twelth cousins, thrice removed.
Now I wonder if this is just made up? but I can imagine this is the way they talk in private.
The National Ledger:
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272624804.shtml
Rman…thinking back to all your postings when you said that H & C’s break up will put pressure on W & K. Well this one is for you.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2009/jan/31/this-week-lucy-mangan
Lol, lol. I bet that’s what she said, lol. They didn’t have to get too nasty with that line but what can you say. It’s just true, the attention is now on them.
The Ledger just took the article word-for-word from US. So it’s nothing new, except they left out the part from Judy Wade that says if they get engaged it will be in Feb or they will wait until next year to get engaged. Although one royal couple got engaged in January. I think it was PC and DoC.
The Guardian one is a hoot! I don’t know how much more pressure PW and KM can deal with. Is anyone surprised by CD night on the town? The other forum has her hooked up w/someone else and have PH w/Princess Theodora of Greece. I think she is an attractive girl, but PH is used to perfection body wise having CD so long. I’m not sure PT can hold up to those standards.
Shall we have a “welcome February” party tomorrow?
gracie…..what’s this? Harry going out with Princess Theodora, or is that just the forums speculating.
This is interesting…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/4413409/Prince-William-to-serve-in-the-Falklands.html
That’s what one of the posters on the other forum has said, but as w/any gossip 50/50 chance of it being right. I’m sure the Queen would be delighted as she is close to Greek RF. They even attended Christmas service w/RF this year, not sure if they normally do or not. Although I did not see PT in pics only her parents were shown in attendance.
The new RF website is launched on Feb.14.
gracie,I thought it was friday the 12th? has the date changed?
Make that thursday the 12th.
I think that is great, William will get a chance to go to the Falkland Islands. No it’s still going to be launched on the 12th or the reception is on the 12th and it’s launched on the 14th.
I can just hear mr negative blogger now…he will say this is yet another indication that William is running from Kate,lol..you watch, see if I am wrong!
The Greek royal family lives in London, and King Constantine is apparently a good friend of PC.
Lol, William & Kate will be fine. She must be proud of him and wishing him the best of luck.
I can’t imagine them not getting married before he goes on this tour. I would imagine there is a certain level of danger involved with it. It is also interesting that the article claims there is speculation that the engagement is imminent.
Gracie…Thank you for that info. If Greek members of the Royal family have been to Sandringham at Christmas, then I can’t recall when. I am aware they are close to the RF. Wasn’t it the King of Greece’s grandson that W became a godfather? Not sure.
Lisa…Thanks for the article, but I can’t help but think just maybe, because the Royals season will start up in February again, that the Telegraph were searching for a Royal story and have come up with this one. Anyone who is doing SARS training is likely to go to the Falklands and some point. However, its good to hear another broadsheet is mentioning the ‘E’ word.
If W does marry Kate this year, I do not believe he will do the full 7 years. Afterall, he’s going to be King one day, so the training for that has got to start sometime. Unless of course he abdicates.
Well we will see, this year is looking bright. The Greek members of the royal family usually go to Sandringham when Charles & Camilla have their house party gathering before Christmas. If they stayed for the holidays, then that’s great. The royals are very close to them.
Does someone know the time frame of William’s service and if he could marry Kate during his commitment? I can’t see Kate waiting 7 years which makes me wonder what you all have heard regarding this topic.
I for one wish they would get on with it. It would be a nice change for everyone. Can you imagine it? What a difference it would make for us Royal Watchers!
Hello,
I don’t know why there is surprise at news that PW is to be posted to Falklands, he will probably also have a posting to Cyprus and possibly to Larbruch (spelling may be wrong) in West Germany on border with Holland.
I mentioned this in an earlier posting and was accused of being negative. I am being realistic and still feel that if an engagement happens it will be Jan/Feb 2014 with a wedding in spring or summer that year.
I think one of the hints given for this was the advice allegedly given by PC to PW when he discussed joining S and R. PC is said to have commented that KM would wait if she was in love with him. That of course may have been supposition.
Well,ked,I don’t think that is the plan but if it is then I would urge Kate Middleton to cut her losses and move on especially if she wants a family. Waiting until your 30′s to start having babies is not the best choice when you have two healthy people in a long term relationship that plan to stay that way. If William and Kate don’t marry soon or end things soon,then I believe she will end up another Camilla while he is set up with some younger woman to provide a healthy uterus and a pretty face for the cameras. I thought the monarchy learned their lesson with Charles and Diana. I pray they did.
Ked, I’m not surprised that he will go to the Falklands. I think it’s great and no you are not being negitive. There is a plan in place and I’m sure this is all being worked out with Kate in mind. No I do not believe they will wait very long. Of course we have to remain positive and not think doom is written all over this. Oh lol, Lisa I think they have learned their lesson from that situation.
Ked, do you think CD/PH is all PR to cover something else? What do you think about PH and KM getting together or do the RF just want her to go away?
Lisa,
I do believe that the die was cast when PW announced his plan to serve in S and R but how long that plan was part of a strategy I don’t know.
There is still a part of me that believes that the S and R was just the final (but possibly unpremeditated) act of plans laid down in the summer of 2007.
We just don’t really know
I wonder why people are fixated on the idea that PW will be in for 7 years. This is an excerpt from the recent Telegraph/RD article:
‘He’ll have to spend 18 months in training, and it was reported that this would be followed by a compulsory seven years of service. But Miguel Head, press secretary to Princes William and Harry, tells me: “That is nonsense. Most officers spend around 30 to 36 months in the Search and Rescue division once they have completed their training.” ‘
I can add, so what am I missing?
Hi ked and just visiting –
Google got it wrong. Apparently someone slipped up and started tagging ALL websites as ‘may harm your computer’.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/this-site-may-harm-your-computer-on.html
Steven / BRW
Ked, you really believe the theory of the plan. All that time that they spent together starting with Princess Diana’s concert, Camilla’s birthday, the wedding last March till now was just for show. Couldn’t William have fallen in love with Kate? I can’t shake this feeling that they do belong together. I have really tried thinking about it. It just doesn’t fit. They seem like such a good couple in love and are soulmates. I am still sorry about PH/CD.
Phoebe, I don’t know. Some just want to make it longer but it’s not going to be all that long. I firmly believe a plan is in place and they will lets us know in due time.
Have you guys read the new artical in the DM about Chelsy? They are making her sound like a little kid. They are trying to sneak another guy in the picture and quoting all kinds of people.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1133030/Harry-Chelsy-parties-Boujis–reveals-wants-home.html
Madrake says PH is talking to Natalie Pinkham for support. I’m getting tired of all of them, really. If KM and PW are over, then why does she continue to hide out?
PW and KM is not over. Like I said before, the press will try to bring others into the picture. The tabs is trying to drive us all nuts.
Steven,
Thanks for reassurance.
Regards
k
gracie,
There are some gus well into sport who know that PH does see NP frequently and has been with her for meals.
She is really ‘just one of the guys’ and I’m not surprised PH turns to her with problems.
By the way she holds her brandy and champagne
as well as most guys.
Poor CD! When if ever will they leave her alone.
Any pictures of this Princess Theodora PH is supposed to be considering (in all the time left after armed forces training, royal duties, and ladding about?
I’ve always thought that Caroline of Monaco’s daughter, Charlotte, would be a great for PH. Can you imagine what cheer her family would bring to Sandringham each year?
Theodora is an actress. I found a video of her performing on stage, but I don’t remember how I found it.
Although Charlotte is beautiful and seems level-headed, the less said about the Grimaldis, the better. I can’t see the British RF voluntarily seeking an alliance with them.
Here, try this. Scroll down a little.
http://tinyurl.com/awhctw
I think they will leave her alone when Harry starts dating someone else. She will eventually be yesterdays news with a few stories here and there about her.
Here is the Telegraphs artical on the new Royal website to come on the 12th of this month.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/4410479/Queen-to-unveil-new-look-Royal-website.html
I didn’t read this one yet from the not so reliable daily star but it was funny. It says harry was dumped becaused he was talking to friends about his sizzling sex life with chelsy.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/67999/Chelsy-nabs-Harry-s-club-/
I find it interesting the stark differences between Chelsy and Kate. Chelsy has a career and seems to want to do something with her life. While Kate (and I don’t claim to know what she’s thinking) appears to just always sit and wait. I would be so bored! and…what a risk…waiting for someone (William) to decide your future. Because until she actually takes that walk down the aisle, it could all go away for her. And then where would Kate be?
Since none of us know what Kate is thinking or what her plans are, it is a bit unfair to judge her in this manner. Right now helping to keep her families business afloat in tough economic times seems like a pretty respectable thing to do instead of doing a job that would only benefit her. People assume kate is waiting around twiddleing her thumbs thinking of ways to get William to propose,well that is so silly it defies logic. She is not some high school student. She is a 27 yr old woman who has been involved with her partner or 7 years. I am quite sure she knows by now if he plans to marry her. All this talk about Kate waiting around for a proposal is just silly.
While I have no idea what is going through Kate or William’s mind at the moment, I see no reason why their relationship won’t survive a three month stint in the Falklands, unless William is into sheep, and I mean REALLY into sheep if you get my drift.
As with their other separations, I’m sure they will head off for a sexcation once he returns, so I wouldn’t be too worried about them spending some time apart.
As for Ked’s suggestion of a 2014 wedding, I don’t see a problem with that either. Of course Kate will be happy to wait — why is there any doubt about that? I’m certain her parents can make her look busy between now and then, and maybe there will even be another skating event involved, if we are lucky. At 32, she certainly will not be not qualifying for her pension just yet, so there should be no problem popping out a few little HRHs, if not via Frank Sinatra and a bottle of Chianti, then certainly via a turkey baster.
It’ll all work out, keep the faith my dearest Rman.
Just came across this:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/columnists/mcintosh/2009/01/31/wake-up-kate-and-heed-chelsy-s-warning-115875-21086160/
Oh, I’m keeping the faith Alsgal.
“I’m sure they will head off for a sexcation once he returns, so I wouldn’t be too worried about them spending some time apart.”
I really laughed at that and it’s so true. These aren’t two kids dating, they are adults and I’m sure three months will not hurt anything. Some people would say three months is just too much but love baby will get you through the most toughest things. Believe me, I know.
I wonder if what’s in this article may have contributed to the H & C split.
http://www.zimbabwejournalists.com/story.php?art_id=318&cat=8
Well I think you summed it up with “sexcation”. Although, let’s be honest, after either of them is away for any amount of time they do go on one of those holidays, which I think is unnecessary. I am sure that a lot of people here have been away from their partners for 3 months if not more in some cases. If William wants to work with the SAR and be taken seriously he cannot be seen to be going on holiday just because he spent some months away. Going to Balmoral is different of course and there is no reason why they should have to go far away to catch up. Surely he would want to be home with the people he loves. I just don’t understand it and it does not give him (or Kate) a good image to be seen going on holiday a lot.
If these revelations prove to be true it would be quite embarrassing for the RF. For starters, it seems to support the rumors that PH and his crowd have, ummm, “limited acceptance of cultural diversity and racial equality,” euphemistically speaking.
Moreover, if they are somehow involved in the break up, the RF risks being seen as either hypocritical or clueless to the point of negligence. With news of the D and D of W also being embroiled in an unsavory business fiasco in Portugal, the RF needs good PR and pronto.
All to say… Time to start rearranging our calendars! KM chances of an engagement may indeed be imminent after all!!!!
Unless I hear news to the contrary, I shall continue with my hat expedition.
Time usually fly’s by, but the month leading to February, seems to be dragging.
There are those on another forum who positively believe W & K have broken up. I’m blue in the face from the constant refuting.
I hope this new office at St.J’s representing the princes will do something about the sniping Kate has had to endure.
As for the Robin Nunn book, when is it due out?
Hale,
When was that article published? Do you think it is still relevant?
PH…are you referring to the article about Chelsy’s father?
Or the one I accidently posted under another heading from the DExpress with the video?
Or the other one about from the Mirror?
Which ever one, I am PROUD to inform all members of this forum, I truly have cracked the linking.
What I want to know now is where do you get the smiley face from and how do you insert it, because I do think this posting derserves it.
The one about Chelsey’s father dated 2006.
i know what you mean about constantly refuting on other sites, Hale. I think the majority of those posters are young teenage girls as most of the comments are just stupid petty insults. Nothing to back their comments. Anything you post nice about a pic the pack of wolves come out to attack. They still don’t believe will loves kate even after so many years. They post things like he loves his horses more and he pays them more attention.
Hale, To make a smiley face it is a colon: followed by a parenthesis )
I don’t know if this was posted yet it is Kate’s home until she was a teenager.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/4422287/Kate-Middletons-childhood-home-to-let.html
Sorry
http://tinyurl.com/cp4x3o
AY AY AY AY AY!! What are going to do with Ked? Ked, you write alot of posts but I’m going to go out on a limb here and say at least 70-80% of what you write is just mere speculation on your part and much of it is very, very silly. There is no way Kate is going to hang around until 2014 to marry William. That’s just absurd and insane.
I also think you pretend to have inside information and know more than you truly do.
Maddie, thank you for posting that link. We are learning more about this future Queen as time goes by.
Hale,
I don’t know how many others have come to the conclusion that Prince William and Miss Middleton are not in a relationship… but as it happens, they are correct.
Prince William and Miss Middleton haven’t been romantically tied to one another for more or less 6 months now. I should perhaps reiterate, this is not based on hearsay.
Some are incredulous that this “news” hasn’t leaked but it has been quietly known for a long while now in many circles. This is a fact.
-Karagiosis
P.S. Hale, here is a page with smiley codes. Maybe they can be used here?.
(scroll down the page).
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
Okay!!!!!
Karagiosis, I know I’m going against my own advice on ignoring some posts but I have to ask you something. Don’t you ever get tierd of spreading rumors? I mean at some point you must get tierd.
Rman
Don’t even bother. I get tired of responding. Unless I see an official they have broken up I’m not believing any of the they are friends she is a cover she quiet break nonsense. If they make it cool if not then I am still rooting for her…..
Okay JJ.
If these people were smart they would try to sell the house after the engagement is announced…
Karagiosis, it seems like the only site that you visit that is embracing your tales is the Internet Forum. Clearly many ,if not most of the posters here, are are not interested in your “facts”. If William and Kate are no longer together, I will accept that news from a reputable source. You are not a reputable source and your claims of facts are becoming tiresome. Why was it again that the Royal Forums banned you?
Lol…:)
Everyone have the right to believe what they want even if it’s nonsense to some.
If you can come on this site and express your ideas or feelings why shouldn’t someone else do the same?
Isn’t everyone equal on this site?
Let us all be nice and respect each other’s point of view whether you agree or not.;)
Karagiosis, I tried to use the smiley codes but they didn’t work.
Im gonna try again
Yeah! I finaly got it ;-P
Wait, I think now its better.
lol.
Karagiosis,
I am going to believe you have just one …. sentence in your vocabulary, always the same way to say the same thing. Do you know only 20 words? so K and W dont want to divulgue they are no more together? Why? non-sense. You are the only one to share their secret? Why? non-sense. Sorry, but you just can talk and argue with the young girls (10-12) of the OTHER SITE. That’s your public!!!
Dv,
Karagiosis doesnt express ideas or feelings, she said she know the truth and wants to share with us. She is very authoritative. It’s not the same thing. A lot of elements and proofs has been disclosed since a few weeks to let us know that all is fine between K and W. So why not just speculate on the future? It is yet a lot to do; but speculate on the things that are real and present is a nonsense. Sorry for my poor english!
Kate and William have purposely kept out of public eye for 6 months.
She is safe at her parents home without the constant hassle of the media.
How do we and why should we know when they see each other.
It is still obvious she was in Scotland with PC and stayed at her parents to celebrate birthday.
These are biggest signals engagement announcement imminent
PH…Errr…I do see you point. Everybody on the forum please accept my humble apologies.
Karagiosis…I honestly and guinely do not believe W & K have split up. In fact I am hoping for an engagement announcement sometime this month.
YIPPEE
Thank you maddie.
How did you know jane? that they were enganged.
commonsense
I even said on the Wright stuff I did not believe they had parted back in 2007; I was right
Good morning all…Jane, I happen to agree with you. We’ll have to see what happens. Kate has not been seen in public without William and his bodyguards since last fall at least. I don’t think this is an accident and I don’t think she is hiding because they broke up. Hopefully we hear something soon.
Carol Middleton’s birthday past by and they celebrated it out of the limelight.
Hello,
I think that is very naive to think IF PW and KM have , or will ever break up their relationship , that a comment one way or another from an official source will be published.
The only comment on PW and KM which has come out from BP or CH is that ” PW and KM are good friends and PW has many very good friends.”
When the real or imagined split occured in spring 2007 no official statement was made and this fact has always been the contention of KM’s detractors and unhappily PW has condoned this by his continual neglect of KM reputation and position.
He and PH have rubbished and ignored many earlier royal protocols but on this one point he has remained silent when a single comment would have silenced the rude and unpleasant louts who continue to attack KM and her family.
It has been said that one of the main detractions that senior RF members have about KM is that these comments will remain with her even if she eventually marries PW and becomes his Queen.
Even PC and his immediate staff made strenuous efforts to deflect criticism of Camilla depite protocol whilst PW has stubbornly silent on KM position and his feelings for her.
If KM does ‘walk away’ then without doubt PW’s crass behaviour will for ever, both haunt him and public opinion will forever hold that over him and any new partner will be extremely careful when entering into a relationship.
Wrong Ked. CH made a statement in Oct. 2007 when the COUPLE where hounded by Paparazzo, in the statement it said that it was incomprehensible that the COUPLE and the GIRLFRIEND of PW had to be chased by car, motorcyle and on foot when the Range Rover had already departed Bouji.
You do not take pictures 5-6 years with your very best friend and on all the “different” ocassions they have celebrated together, being it a Balmoral, Sandringham, Club night, Klosters, Mustique, etc. They are a couple. Logic is that 5-6 years of pictures of their togetherness is good enough to say to the world – she is my girlfriend.
Ked why do you keep on insisting about the protection, the BRF has never done it until engagement. Please desist.
Me, the day will come when William and Kate are engaged and there will still be some people who will insist it is a cover up, she forced him, blackmailed him, take your pick.
CH has on several occasions referred to Kate as William’s girlfriend. One I recall is around her birthday one year when a spokesperson made a statement to the affect “Prince William would like for his girlfriend to be left alone(by the press)”
You can also assured,that just as in the case of Harry and Chelsy,if there is a parting of the ways between Kate and William, a unofficial statement will be made to confirm the circumstances if for no other reason then to allow the prince to move on and date other woman without looking like he is cheating.
Right Lisa.
Ked I do appreciate your postings, always have. But it baffles me when I know that you are a royal watcher, have very good knowledge of the most powerfull royal house in the world, then out of the blue you contradict yourself.
A basic knowledge to the least royal watchers that BRF never answers back to the press with the hogwash they write, why would you suggest that Wills should. Look at poor Harry for bringing out of his heart in an interview that he loves Chelsy, all her friends have stated that the vacationship was always on rocky grounds, they have run to the press to talk crap about H and C, plus all the wild statements they have said since breaking up, including bad pictures, facebook pictures. It in my reasoning holds more against the poor young ex couple then the crap written about W&K.
Some of the crap about H and C stays in press display, I would be embarassed to put it on line.
Ked…I’m sorry, but I don’t understand what you are trying to say here. This ‘only comment by BP or CH that K & W are just good friends’, is confusing to me. Surely, PW and the RF has demonstrated the seriousness of W & K’s relationship by providing a protection officer for Kate. This is the first time ever prior to an engagement this has ever been done for a potential spouse.
Also I am reminded of the pictures that appeared prior to Christmas taken at the Sandringham shooting weekend. This photo opportunity was done with prior agreement of the press. If they W & K are to be viewed as just good friends, then why was Kate allowed to be part of it.
I am aware that the palaces never like to comment on the private lives of the RF, however I do think they are sending out confused signals. I should like to think that the reason for this is because they want to play down the relationship because it fuels no end of speculation.
IMO when the engagement is announced, they may do so without pre-informing the press.
Great work Hale, learning to smile with your colon.
Not much to add here, except that I notice the Middletons don’t seem to be having as many London outings? Is this by design, to avoid the paps or just a papal lack of interest in the non-Kate Middletons these days?
“The day will come when William and Kate are engaged…”
You say that with a great deal of certainty. Yes, it might happen but then there is also a chance that it might not. There is nobody saying that he HAS to marry her and not someone else, they may break up. So the correct version of that statement should be “the day MAY come when William and Kate…”.
Actually Me, the statement said that “Prince William and Kate Middleton were hounded…”. There was no mention of her being his girlfriend at all. There never has been any sort of acknowledgement at all by CH.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7030599.stm
Obviously she is his girlfriend but it is important to get the facts straight and to not misquote anyone.
Oh yes the day will come soon.
“Is this by design, to avoid the paps or just a papal lack of interest in the non-Kate Middletons these days?”
Please explain.
Oh I’m so glad it worked for you Dv … yes, I think there should be a space between the smiley code and any other text, for it to work properly
Hale, you’re most welcome
-Karagiosis
Phoebe, given the utter lack of recent photographic proof that the Middletons even exist anymore, it seems that could be either due to Miguel Head telling them at some point to pipe down and stop showing off their dental work with such notable luminaries as Rod Stewart if they really wanted to be considered private citizens or –
maybe the paps just don’t bother photographing Ma, Pa, Bubba and Sissy simply because no one wants to buy the photos anymore?
Could also be that the editors at the tabs have received cease-and-desist letters from Harbottle & Lewis after the pictures of Handsome James w/ his two-legged friends were published? Could it be that photographing Kate is off-limits unless she is with PW, and that’s that?
Love your options and the way you put it Alsgal. LOL
Alsgal, I think there is still an interest in the Midds and especially KM, but something must be in place for paps not to get photos of them. I guess its okay though if she is w/PW? After that docu on PW and PH and KM the decoy, my bet is the RF does not want the paps anywhere near KM incase she is seen w/a hot dude. I can’t imagine that the paps would back off for the rest of her life!
No, I think things are just calm at the moment. No big news yet.
Given that Gerrard Tyrant at Throttle & Sueus is a Privacy/Defecation legal specialist, it seems reasonable to assume that the reason we aren’t seeing any pictures of Kate unless she is with her Well Known Public Figure in the Public Arena is because they have threatened enough legal action to make taking (and trying to sell) the odd pic of Kate and Mum coming out of Waitrose unpleasant.
Which might raise the question: why would a future Royal Bride, whose future family’s popularity largely depends on the goodwill of the press and public, be allowed by Those In Power to hire a solicitor to pursue such a heavy handed effort to protect Kate’s privacy with the press? I understand the girl has every right not to be driven off the road, but in the art of PR, acting so defensively cannot be helping her public image, which might have something to do with her largely negative press coverage of late.
Yes, she’s got her privacy and her safety but one cannot help but wonder how cynically the editors will react when they are suddenly summoned to the Palace to report on the details of the bride’s dress and her mighty fine royal romance.
It does make me question why the soft power of CH was not used. Or maybe it has been, and we just are privvy to it. If the Middeltons themselves pay for the legal services, then I can only wonder why PW/PC/the DofC aren’t coughing up the cash.
I am hoping instead that Mr.T gets a cheque every month from Coutts
Alsgal, we will probably get some answers soon. Everything just seem to be calm right now but somethings may be cooking at the Palace as we speak.
Lisa
Am pleased you agreed with me.
There is no way Kate would have unofficially represented William and Peter and Autumns wedding or Duke of Gloucesters daughters wedding with the Royals.
Who knows whether Kate is working daily with Party Pieces; she may well be in disguise at St James or wherever being trained.
We seem to forget William lost his beautiful Mum Diana due to the press; whether she courted it or not; and there is no way he would allow this to happen to gorgeous Kate.
I also think Caroleand Michael Middleton would not want their daughter who they have brought up and educated at Marlborough would want her vilified as Charles wife has been.(rightly so)
Think Middletons behave superbly and are in the know about William and Kate.
Jane, one would certainly hope so, seeing as she is their daughter who is living under their roof and who is employed by them.
Rman, let’s hope this will prove a case of “no news being good news”.
For my part, Alsgal will be switching her Astral Advisory Service today from Madame Clare to Madame Yvette, as Madame Clare has stated adamantly that she will no longer accept my Diners Club card as payment for her services and Alsgal has stated adamantly that she will no longer accept hearing all of Madame Clare’s Moon in Uranus jokes.
I’ll let you know how it goes.
“Oh yes, the day will come”
Rman, you completely missed my point. My point was how on earth can anyone possibly know that unless they are a mind reader or psychic? It could go either way and people are causing just as much trouble for them by saying that they will definately marry as they are by saying that they are going through problems at the moment. Seeing how nobody knows that they will marry surely it is a bit hypocritical to say that they will and then to moan at Karagiosis for suggesting that they will not.
Now I am not saying who is right, but I think we should just be aware of the effect our comments and our behaviour towards all posters.
Thank you.
Alsgal…Thank You.
As to your post at 12:41. None of us know the truth of it, but I do agree 100% with all the points you are making.
Jane…I also agree with the point you are making about the press by reminding us about what happened to Diana.
However, I’m wondering how long they can keep this excuse up. At the end of the day W & H are paid by us the tax payers, and frankly what we have seen to date is simply not good enough.
Remember, when Charles was young, he completed his hellicopter training, commanded a minesweeper ship ‘HMS Bronnington. Wrote several books before he was thirty, including a fictional one for children. Learned to play the cello, took up painting, (one year designing the Royal Mail stamps) made 1001 speeches, gave interviews, headed several charities and founded the Prince of Wales Trust, as well as the Duchy of Cornwall products. A regular dynamo. Can’t help but feel you can only hold somebody’s hand for so long, but at some point they have to learn to walk for themselves.
Frankly, it’s time they both grew up.
Would rather pay for William and Harry than lousy UK government.
The Royals bring huge Revenue into UK; the Press will go beserk as and when announcement made; it will sell newspapers.
It would be great to have young swingin couple as the Royals with Felipe and Laetizia.
It would also be great that two youngsters met at Uni fell in love and relationship developed.
England need this example to get it on the straight and narrow.
Hale..brilliant post. It is time they both grew up. Charles’ maybe trashed for his private life but you can’t deny he’s an incredibly hard worker.
Why would KM still be represented by PC and PW law firm if KM and PW were not still together? I would think her media case would have to be handed over to another law firm as it would seem w/my little legal knowledge (Nancy Grace) that there might be a conflict of interest for KM to be a client if a break-up has happened. IMO.
Alsgal, I suggest you check Majorie Orr for the condition of Uranus!
True B, none of us know but I’m just remaining positive.
My general opinion is that there are alot of things going on behind the scenes that we don’t know yet and won’t know until an announcement is made. Since no pictures of Kate have appeared without William since last year, we really don’t know where she is living or what she is doing. In the fall it was put out there that she was working for PP and living at home. True? Maybe. Maybe not. We really don’t know and that,IMO, is a good thing.
Hello,
Anyone thought why there has been no sightings or news ?
Perhaps there has already been a migration after all birds fly south and east at certain times of the year.
ked, what in the bloody H- E-double hockey sticks are you talking about?
Ohhhh the PP site has been actualized twice already in one month January 2009. Great work Katiums.
http://www.partypieces.co.uk/category/new_valentines+party.htm
Happy Valenitnes !
There was photo of Kate and William beginning of this year coming off flight from Scotland after their 5 or 6 days at Birkhall.
Incidentally the photo of Kate last year at Party Pieces could have been initiated by Royals in conjunction with Middletons.
Kates birthday was 9th Jan and William was visibly there.
I think both families are dealing ith this romance in a very clever way and merely drip feeding the press on their terms.
I repeat we do not want another scenario like Diana. I remember being at Harbour Club and the press hound outside daily.
Do we really want Kate going through this.
Kate behaves impecably as do her parents.
The good news will come and the papers will have a field day
Gracie, with your last comment all I have to say is thank God for Depends, the adult diaper designed by adults, for adults.
Let us not forget H&L is a law firm that handles many, many distinguished clients, including Posh Beckham (who is some sort of singer) and Mick “the Brick” Hennessy, the esteemed boxing promoter, as well as the Prince of Wales when he gets too tetchy (or is it touchy?) for Sir Michael.
I do have to wonder if all the talk about the Princes being slow to grow up is a generational thing? Certainly Diana, Charles, Philip and HM all came of age prior to Facebook, camera phones, and, I believe, even before the toaster oven was invented. So, you see, it was a very different time back then, and perhaps their youthful indiscretions occurred but simply weren’t recorded? I do agree, Hale, that there seems to be the perception in the media that the Princes are maturing slowly by comparison.
I agree that the PoW should be much admired for his work ethic, if not his taste in women (I am thinking of his unholy alliance with the actress Susan St. James, who I’ve personally never felt was very attractive.)
Jane, a wedding would indeed stimulate the economy and sell papers — and you can bet Alsgal will be off her lawnchair and onto the BOAC faster than you can say rectal prolapse!
Well, Ked, Dublin is to the west.
Valentine’s day parties for 2-8 year olds??? Hmm…I don’t know what sort of message that gives out.
It’s really all about childhood innocence and fun B. Sure, I know a cynic would say it’s just the crass commercialisation of a religious holiday, any excuse to make a penny, and still others might say gee, it contributes to the overall materialism that plagues Western culture, doesn’t it? However, I say it’s a lovely, and tasteful, way to bring together family and friends who might normally not be speaking to one another, much less celebrating something that’s really kind of silly.
I do communicate with Party Pieces from time to time, sometimes saying, hey — what’s up with your utter lack of party paraphenalia for St. David’s Day? and I’ve always found them to be very responsive. usually, I’ll receive an email saying, “Dear Valued Customer, (which I am)
Thank you for your invaluable input, someone in Customer Serive will get back to you shortly regarding your request.” So, if it’s a big concern to you, B, why not drop a simple line?
I am actually currently awaiting a response to my inquiry as to whether they’ve considered launching a “Somali” pirates theme as the one they’ve got is frankly, a bit outdated IMO.
I’ll also let you know how that goes.
I agree Alsgal.
I don’t have a problem with different parties and bringing families together, in fact I think it is a brilliant idea. However, valentine’s day is an adults/teenagers day which they celebrate with their partner i.e. romance. Their age range for their parties is 2-8. There are other ways to bring a family together. It is just strange to me to do that using a romantic holiday which for adults involves candles, romantic meals, sexy clothes, lots of i love you times etc. I don’t think it is appropriate to get a 2-8 year old celebrating that sort of holiday. If people want to have a party that day to celebrate family love, then they should but as Valentine is about romance and passion, I don’t think that it is the best way to do it.
Britt…Thank you, and yes for all his failings Charles is indeed a hardworker.:smile:
Somali Pirates theme…….OMG Alsgal you are a STAR.
BTW: I didn’t make it clear but I felt it was inappropriate for children closer to 2 rather than 8. I think 2 or 3 is too young and therefore not suitable but 8 years old is okay I think.
I think the strict religious upbringing is beginning to show through..lol.
B, in the states we always celebrated Valentines Day in the schools. There was never any sexual conitation envovled w/the younger children. We would exchanged Valentine cards and candy. The kids like it, I liked it. My daughter goes to catholic school and they have very small Valentine parties. They take so much of the joy out of school anymore, that the kids look forward to these days where its not about work,work,work. Yet, at her school they also discuss the meaning of St. Valentine.
Really? Here in the UK it is much more of an adult celebration. Yes, some 10 year olds seen each other cards or presents to their “boyfriend” or “girlfriend” (doesn’t really count at that age) and obviously teenagers celebrate it, but not young children especially not toddlers or pre-school children. It is mainly for adults in love.
B
Allow me to reiterate what Gracie just said. Valentines day here in the USA is just as much a kids day as for adults. All the children send out and collect cards for their friends in school and have treats and parties. Especially the younger children in pre-school and lower primary grades, by the time you are in the 3rd and fourth grade – you are already “too cool” for Valentine card exchanges!
It is interesting to learn different cultures and norms, isn’t it? Now I won’t feel as guilty just hanging around royal sites…..I will convince myself I am learning something………
B, that’s very interesting. The children here have Valentines Parties in Kindergarden. I remember putting mine in a big box and we would pick a card out of the box. In my daughters school, the parties usually stop by 4th grade. They don’t make a big deal out of the parties unless they envolve one of the Saints and the emphasis is more on the meaning than the party itself. I just looked at PP so I could see what you where talking about and I didn’t really care for some of the stuff they offered, like rings, etc. We just exchange cards and some heart candy and maybe the kids make valentines. The cards are the biggest part and I did not see them on the site. LOL
Anyone have any ideas as to where Ked thinks they have flown to? I would take a guess and say that since it’s winter, most people go to somewhere warm. Dublin?
After looking at KM childhood home and compare to what they live in now, I would think that Papa Midds must have gotten some type of inheritance to move up the way they did. Although it did take 13yrs before they moved into Berks. I just can’t imagine that PP would make them millionares. Nothing against KM or her family, but we can buy the same stuff at Wal-Mart.
We have valentines parties at my childrens school. They are 5 and 7 years old. I am going to do valentine bingo played with candy hearts and we will exchange valentine cards, have cupcakes and decorate sugar cookies. We also do a craft like making bracelets or magnets for the fridge. I live in the US as well. It is a fun time for the kids.
B, Gracie, all of you, whether one’s child chooses to exchange candy, cards or fluids probably depends on whether one is sending one’s child to Catholic school or not. Certainly back when my son Nick (who attended an alternative school for Quakers with eating disorders) was in the sixth grade, he and his classmates used to meet up behind the Polstermann Dairy Barn, and well, let’s just say come Turkey Day, November 1974 there was a Baby Giblet born to one very proud seventh grader and her classmate(s?)
Of course, we were living in Vermont at the time.
Now, with all this talk of V Day I just wonder what our Kate will be giving William this year, seeing as he already has the customised PP clock.
Alsgal, you are a nut!! With the rumors of Philips health if they should get worse, I would think that PW military career would be short-lived. I did notice that there is a PP in Limerick.
South and east of Bucklebury is Brighton, the Channel Tunnel, France, Spain, Italy, etc., North Africa, Sub-saharan Africa. Since the earth is round, going south and east enough would eventually bring one to Dublin.
I hope Prince Philip will get better soon. What would the Queen do without him?
I hope you guys checked the Valentine PP accessories – seems that maddie got it right.
I hope he gets better soon Rman too but the next couple of years are going to be very tough because they are both getting older. That is one of the main reasons why I don’t believe in the 2014 time line, unfortunately they are both getting older & that can only head in one direction.
Once that happens William will have no choice but to fall in line, and give up the air force to begin King training. That’s unless he wants to give up the throne which I can’t see happening. If they are still together at that point in time I think the pressure will be well and truly on.
Hello again, calling all posters intrested in all things royal.
Have just finished watching a very good documentary about Backstairs Billy, who was the butler to the late Queen Mother.
It was on channel 4, and if you are intrested you can watch via the link I am posting. Just to remind you, no registration is required, it’s free, legal and above board.
http://www.channel4.com/video/brandless-catchup.jsp?vodBrand=backstairs-billy-the-queen-mums-butler
Goodnight, Godbless and may your God go with you.
I would love to watch it but it says you must be in the UK or Ireland to view the programming.
Yeah, they need to start broadcasting these programs to the US.
Rman – While I wish the best for Prince Philip, the Queen, no matter what, will carry on. She is a woman of great discipline, dedication and serves her country first and foremost.
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!
KED – I do believe you’ve gone off the deep end. Where exactly do you get your information from and just exactly have you been involved in the royal inner circle??
Hey Guy’s,
I don’t understand, weren’t any of you able to watch to programme on the princes? Someone, anyone, please let me know about this. Only next week there is also a programme about Princess Margaret and John Bindon.
Meanwhile, I don’t quite understand the article about the royal carriage. In one paragraph it’s saying the Queen uses it for the state opening of parliament, and the further down it says the carriage is to be transported from Sydney to England…..Confusing!
Ked, with all due respect to you and your postings, but I can’s help but feel,
‘your ‘avin a larff’.
Oops….sorry, should check my comments before posting. Have spotted grammatical errors.
I thought it seemed to far in advance to say if PW was to be sent to Faulklands. Telegraph reported it, so I suspect that it was true but because the Argentina reaction that put out his deploy is not certain. Or could it have something to do w/Philips health?
Jade, Hale,
For all we know, Rman might be Kate’s grandpa (he always speaks so fondly of her) living in Berkshire, alsgal is the long lost great aunt, TeaTea is the court lady and I am the the daughter of some Duke.
the Faulklands story stuck me odd because so far the Telegraph is the only source reporting it. Normally when there is new regarding the Princes’ placement it is reported by the Press Association, the BBC etc.
gracie,
I have to admit I am too wondering how you would be able to become a millionaire with the mail order business for children’s birthday stuff. I know enough about business to know that the profit margin for this cardboard stuff must be really low – so how is it they became millionaires?
Anyway, not my job, perhaps they inherited some money or won in the lottery and therefore could afford the new lifestyle. As long as they pay their taxes and comply with the labour law – fine by me.
Chris,the profit margin for the stuff they sell is very high. Combine that with a small staff and low overhead because they did alot of it out of their home and it adds up. I am sure they are also well invested.
Lisa, that appears to be the case. They don’t manufacture any of the goods themselves and instead serve as a middleman/web marketer for perhaps three or four other suppliers, many of whom seem to be in Asia.
Low start up costs, perhaps an inheritance from a dead relly provided the seed money thus eliminating borrowed debt from a bank, Carole has clearly got an artistic eye for arranging these things nicely online, small staff, kids pitching in = successful family business. I’d bet they could sell it for around 5 million pounds, and I’d think after costs, the Middletons are probably bringing home around 300,000 – 700. pounds per year? Just a guess, maybe the numbers are far higher in a good year, which this won’t be.
Chris, that’s very perceptive of you, and if you’d all like to, you may refer to me as Auntie Phyllis from now on, just as Kate does.
I must confess Handsome James calls me by a different name, and I can assure you, when we are in the state of Louisiana, it’s perfectly legal.
I do not know. I understand that you obviously can be profitable and make a good living – sounds okay by me… but become millionaires? And be able to afford private boarding school and university for three children? Thats another big step. I am a bit surprised by that.
Anyway, as already stated, I do not really care as long as they comply with the law which I am convinced they do.
Well, they own at lease two properties,the one on Berks and the one in Chelsea, maybe they also own other properties. Real estate will boost your wealth very quickly.
Chris, I’m sure they are complying by the UK law but one never knows the conditions the people who produce the actual goods themselves are working under. Suppliers are famous for “looking the other way” in exchange for low cost, low quality goods. At least, by being the middlemen and not buying the goods from the manufacturers directly, the Middletons are avoiding potential legal liabilities, which to Alsgal’s mind, is a good thing and just part of smart business practice.
Also, the Asian suppliers probably have given PP a certificate of compliance from the manufacturers which is essentially just CYA document that is seldom worth the paper it’s printed on. But, by having that, at the very worst, if a tiara is tested for excessive lead levels, then PP can say, “Well, by golly, our products were guaranteed safe by the supplier, who was in turn guaranteed compliance by the manufacturer, who assures us this is a one-off occurrance. Our supplier will be using a different manufacturer from now on, so good luck trying to hunt down some guy named Foo in an overseas court. We apologise for any inconvenience, we are issuing a Tiara recall, please return the items to us and we will issue a refund and a complimentary gift certificate for 5 pounds.”
I guarantee half the crap in my house wouldn’t meet safe product testing standards, but that’s what you get when you want a T-shirt for 7 bucks. Alsgal’s willing to take her chances, because if free trade won’t kill me, the gin surely will.
Guy’s please….was anyone able to watch documentaries via the link?
If so, did anyone see the Prince Charles docu for his 60th birthday. It was excellent, it showed all the positive things he does, his work in the P O W Trust, and his passions. Reminded me of how much he has acomplished and how wide are his intrests. I can also provide a link for this, but after what maddie said, well, I just don’t know….
Comments please.
Hale, yes, I did see that a while back and I think the guy’s going to be a great future King
Hale, no sorry, did not find the time. However, I read some earlier reports, I believe what you say, PC will be a very compassionate and thoughtful King.
Alsgal,
you are probably right, I do not want to think of the circumstances under which those products are being produced.
I just thought this topic might be too serious for this site.
Hale, The Australian State Coach is what takes The Queen & Duke of Edinbrugh to the State Opening of Parliament. The new State Coach Britannia, will arrive at Buckingham Palace in a few weeks. It has never been used but it will be used now in big state occasions. I hope that straighten things out for you.
Hale, yes I did see the doc for Charles’s 60th birthday. I really liked it and I loved that he showed us around Highgrove. I read that in the garden at Highgrove he has a tribute to Diana, William and Harry.
Chris, I heartily agree. With this website, as with the Monarchy or anything else, the fewer serious questions asked, the better.
Rman, that is one lovely State Carriage and let’s hope it’ll be used for a wedding soon.
Although, I am wondering why Miguel Head made a point of announcing that PW will be in the Flaklands for three months once his SAR training is finished in July, 2009? Maybe to make the point that we shouldn’t expect a summer 2009 wedding if PW is all the way across the Atlantic? Somehow I don’t see William being allowed a winter wedding with bad weather and small crowds.
Summer 2010 it is then
Lets hope something happens soon. I think plans are being made it’s just that we don’t know everything yet.
He might not go.
The Argentinians are “complaining”…
Summer 2010 sounds good to me, too !
Chris 234,
Your post of 10:22 is brilliant! I was thinking the same thing about Rman the other day.
Lol!
You never know who is posting here
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I don’t think Miguel Head made any such announcement.
LOL, I think I’m a bit too young to be a grandpa.
Rman…It does indeed clear things up, thank you.
The above Telegraph story says, that following W’s SAR training, he will have to spend a compulsory 7 years. However, Miquel Head rubbished that and went on to say most pilots usually do 30 to 36 months.
I pray, Kate won’t have to wait that long.
IMO if there is no announcement this year, then come 2010 we would be looking at a Winter wedding. This is not unusual, as the Queen, PAnne and PEd got married in November. I say this because the election if not called sooner should be called before June next year.
Meanwhile, guy’s I understand you saw the PC docu, but I was concerned you didn’t see the C4 on. The reason I ask, is because they’re a quite a few you may be intrested. My only intrest here is are you able to watch C4 Catch Up?
I’m sure the doc will be put on YouTube so Ill be able to see it there.
I don’t believe for one second that it will be a long wait.
Phoebe, you are right. The Feb 1 article in the Daily Telegraph (Lisa’s link on post 154) quoted the source of the Falklands posting story as being the front page of the RAF News, so don’t know if that’s reliable or not.
My guess was that since RAF News is a Ministry of Defence publication, and because Miguel Head was a former spokesman at the MoD, that he must have received the royal blessing for this news to be published.
I don’t think PW’s postings will be made public, but I am sure the news will leak out somehow.
Hello,
PW does not start his S and R training until approx August 2009 ashe needs a requisite number of hours on Squirrel helicopters before starting on that training.
I think the more that leaks out with elections, sporting occasions and Olympic games the date of any angagement before Jan/Feb 2014 seems to be very remote.
If however a ‘constitutional’ change occurs it may well bring that date forward and force PW into accepting a more realistic position as a King in waiting.
I do so hope that KM is still around and available when/if that time comes and I hope things are a lot clearer than they seem at present.
I think that there is still a huge attachment between them but how much has or may be dissipated , who knows? That happy time of first love is now several years behind them and it is to be seen if the mutual respect and lasting feeling is still strong and remains strong over difficult years,
I think they will only be made public if there is no security threat like what happened last summer.
I think when it comes to love there needs to be a balance between mutual feelings of contentment and some romance. I have seen marriages last for 60 years and for the couple to still be in love right to the end.
BTW: trying to come up with baby names, my partner has suggested Angelo for a boy and Antonia for a girl,(he\’s italian). What do you think?
B…I like the name Antonia for a girl. Although you are aware, kids are inclined to shorten names, in which case Antonia could be shortened to Toni. I like that also.
I believe if I had been Kate, I would not have waited as long as he has. To wait any longer, 2014, frankly would be unacceptable to me. Then again, I’m a totally different character.
I would not be surprised if he were to loose her. I’m also a bit of a romantic at heart, and I do see her walking down the aisle with William at her side, so despite what some posters may think I shall continue hat hunting.
Unless PW dumps her for someone else, I don’t think Kate is going anywhere — whether it’s 2009, 2010, 2011, or 2027. It appears Kate is in this for the long haul and seems content to wait for him to grow up and/or figure out when he’s ready to settle down.
If she wasn’t still willing to mold her life around his, she’d likely have chosen another career and would probably be going out and about as she wished, unencumbered by worrying what other people would think or say about her activities.
BTW: B, I like both names but seeing as your partner is Italian why not Giorgio or Rufus?
B, I like Antonia, Valentina, Emmanuela/Luca,Eugenio, Giancarlo
I agree, to wait until 2014 seems unbearable for me. If that is what KM is given as a timetable, I would have to say lets let the pieces fall where they may, I am moving on to a hot stud- your brother Harry would do fine. If I were speaking for KM. She might not be Queen w/another man, but she could have a relationship that would be constant, stable. I don’t know if KM would be happy w/that or I think she would have left already. Sad though, cause she could have a hot man of her picking!
NO way will this drag on until 2014 unless they are not going to have kids and we all know that is not really an option. It’s just silly talk. I think ked has his sights on a pretty brunette and is engaging in some wishful thinking
These two are going to get married way before that time. There is not going to be a long wait. We shall know something soon.
I find it odd that the Telegraph new story about PW embarking to Faulklands ends w/DoE not attending his second royal event w/the Queen.
I know, I found that odd too.
Just as an aside and to be contrary, I wonder if anyone knows who’s sitting on the other side of KM in the above picture.
Good point I hadn’t thought of shortening names. Those are some really nice names, I like Luca. Thanks everyone
No I don’t know Phoebe, was it that event where Harry was on the other side of William?
The line-up was: PH, PW, KM, and PW’s other best friend.
Following up on the comments about the Princes growning up. I think they will both be quite mature when they complete their military training. That kind of training has a way of making men out of boys.
I do hope both princes are careful.
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Too Demi, didn’t Lovato
William has said marriage between 28 and 30, so maybe we will have to wait till June 2010
Hope my hat will still be in fashion!!
I think announcement of formal engagement this June with October 09 wedding. Brown the wanker in DS will want to give public holiday.
It would be great for Uk economy and bring visitors to hotels and shops in abbundance