Royal News Links

Wills and Harry’s friend who runs club is busted for cocaine – Daily Mail
A close society friend of Princes William and Harry has been caught with cocaine. Jake Parkinson-Smith, 31, general manager of the princes’ favourite London nightspot Boujis, was apprehended close to the club – which he had publicly declared a no-go zone for drug users. Police detained Parkinson-Smith in the street after seeing him acting suspiciously in the early hours of the morning…

My night in Charles and Camilla’s royal lovenest – Daily Mail
Silk headsquare knotted under chin? Check. Pinky held upright when drinking tea? Check. A deep curtsy, a strangled pheasant and an emergency supply of organic shortbread? Check, check and check again. After all, a girl must be prepared and properly equipped for her royal weekend in the country. Especially if she is lucky and special enough to be an honoured guest of the Prince of Wales and his lovely, charming second wife, the most excellent Duchess of Cornwall…

The Young Victoria – another screen queen – The Independent
If you’re quick, at the beginning of the historical biopic, The Young Victoria, you can catch glimpse of Princess Beatrice making her movie debut. Actually, you don’t need to be all that quick. The flame-haired princess is practically the first person on the screen, strewing rose petals at the tiny determined feet of Queen Victoria (Emily Blunt) as she strides up the aisle of Westminster Abbey for her coronation…

66 Responses to “Royal News Links


  • Me
    February 14th, 2009 11:11
    1

    Yet another helicopter crash

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145492/Helicopter-crashes-near-small-airfield-killing-pilot-solo-flight.html

  • Britt
    February 14th, 2009 11:57
    2

    Not another crash…I hope these aren’t omens :(

  • maddie
    February 14th, 2009 12:13
    3

    I know it is real scary.

  • Sojourner
    February 14th, 2009 19:51
    4

    Well, I guess that since he declared Boujis drug free, he had to go get his fix outside… :p

  • ked
    February 15th, 2009 01:12
    5

    Hello,

    I heard late last night of yt another helicopter problem but this time the pilot managed a forced landing and all inside were safe.

    Two well lnown motor car drivers, Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond to gether with others were travelling in a helicopter piloted by Clarkson in Australia I believe.

    They had a bird strike and Clarkson managed to land the striken helicopter safely.

    I do so hope that a responsible advisor to the Royal family will now reasses he safet fator involved with PW and PH continuinging to pilot helicopters on a daily basis during btheir training and then take into consideration the further risks involved in operational flying.

    Childhood dreams or not a responsible attitude should now be taken to prevent both from continuing in their hazardous activity.

  • Jade Falzon
    February 15th, 2009 01:56
    6

    We can only pray that William and Harry will be safe but the risk is always there.

  • gracie
    February 15th, 2009 04:45
    7

    Ked, so true! Another situation where I don’t see the press writing about their concerns for them flying as well. I suppose they know it does not matter what their opinion on the subject is, as RF do what they want to do. DoD lives in Kensington Palace, so what should we expect? Correct me if its not DoD. I think some people are just sick of these young royals, although still have time to grow up, are very unremarkable by any means. If you compare them to other socialites in the same age catagory, they don’t stack up. Lauren Bush, although not royal, does alot of charity work and fundraisers stateside and worldwide. Her “Feed” bags are really a unique way of bringing attention to her cause and make profit at the same time. They also appeal to younger buyers and being in major department stores don’t hurt either. She just did a speech recently, about enviromental issues. She does not have to do these things, she has the name and money and loaded boyfriend. Lauren is what I invision as a woman who would make someone like PW grow as a person and want to better himself. I don’t know what KM will do yet as she is probably hiding in the dungeon of some stately castle.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 05:31
    8

    Miss Bush sounds like a remarkable young woman gracie.

    I have to agree that most people feel they should grow up. I cannot speak for the entire British public but from the people that I have met, a majority of people feel that they need to grow up and unfortunately need new friends/ partners/ influences.

    Kate may surprise us but she will find it harder if she leads it too late because it will become harder the longer she leaves it.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 05:35
    9

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bush

    Heres a link to wikipedia for those who do not know much about Lauren Bush.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 06:48
    10

    I think it’s important to not underestimate Kate.
    Lauren Bush is a fine woman but small potatoes for that postion.

    The year is still bright and like I said before, the lock that’s on Kate’s cage needs to be cut. The year is just begining, I truly believe there is more to come.

  • Me
    February 15th, 2009 06:53
    11

    Harry flunked his first theory test, so he will have a second chance, if he fails again, maybe he will desist in flying.

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 07:06
    12

    Kate will be fine but I do think she needs to get out and be seen. For whatever reason someone has made this conscious decision to send her into what seems like some sort of exile,only being seen with William. That is an existence that cannot be enriching and while I understand they are probably trying to reset Kate’s image, the whole thing is just odd,IMO. If William is the one telling her to “lay low” or stay out of the public then sadly it is time for Kate to move on. Maybe they are just conducting their life in private,I don’t know. Maybe the lawyers got the paps to back off but I highly doubt it, as there are far too many paps out there working independently to control them all. The whole thing is puzzleing.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 07:09
    13

    Small potatoes for that position? What do you mean? She has done a great deal seeing as she is 24, which is 3 years younger than Kate. She has no position really, she is just famous for being the niece of the ex-President of America (although I think they still call them president…not sure :S). Either way she has the same position as the nieces and nephews of the Queen and we hardly ever hear about them, in fact I don’t know who they all are!

    Nobody is underestimating Kate, we have all said that she may surprise everyone by doing a u-turn to have an amazing work ethic, but all I’m saying is that opinion is very important for royals and it will be harder for to impress the longer she fails to.

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 07:23
    14

    You know, B, there is a fine line here in regards to Kate’s ability to impress the public. Firstly,lets not forget that as far as the public knows,Kate Middleton is a private citizen,therefore bears no responsibility to impress anybody publicly. On the other hand,she is the longtime girlfriend of the future King so her activities are being looked at through a microscope by the tabloids,the newspapers and devoted royal watchers. Do I think the average man or woman on the street in London,working for a living who does not read the tabloids or visit royal websites,gives whole lot of thought to how Kate Middleton spends her time when she is not with William, no I do not. her test will come if and when the ring goes on her finger. Until then,her life is hers. having said that,as I stated above,I am getting a bit uncomfortable with what seems to be a calculated exile of Kate from the public eye. If no engagement is pending,I can’t see how this move would enhance things for anybody involved.

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 07:27
    15

    One more thing…One has to wonder if Kate is being turned into the perfect royal bride from a Windsor perspective? One that looks nice at public events,stays home and raises babies and causes no public drama. One that will not overshadow the prince by doing too many great things?

  • gracie
    February 15th, 2009 07:44
    16

    I like Kate or I would not be on here blogging, but I also think like some of us on here, that she could use the attention she gets to find something that she believes in and do bits and pieces of charity on the side. I know she did Disco and PP Starlight, but something she likes to do. Maybe she is doing this privately, I don’t know. Hiding out is not helping her and IF they get engaged the press might hit back at her. I know she has it in her, but I think she should also look at finding something besides work and PW that is fullfiling. The longer this goes on, PW is going to look like he expects KM or any woman to go into hiding and she comes across as having no backbone or having been heart-broken.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 09:06
    17

    No I mean when she becomes a royal Lisa, she will have to impress then. But the average person does read a tabloid rather than a broadsheet and would have heard of “Waity Katey” and be influenced by that. It has been a long time since a really positive article was written about her. The average person would read the tabloids and not remember the details of what happened years ago like we used to. I know about Jen, Angie and Brad and have been influenced by tabloids but I have never been interested in the same way as I am by the royals. The people I speak to know who she is, but are not great fans of her.

    People might not think about her but when questionned or when a proposal comes they will have an opinion. She has to make sure that it is a good one.

    Yes, she is a private citizen but only to a certain extent. She is like other celebrities or actresses who have allowed themselves to be put in the public eye. She was aware of the media interest in PW before she started dating him, in fact she must of been as she had a poster of him on her wall!

    Gracie summed it up very well, she is of interest to the media and the public (she has been front page news before). She did something with the Disco, although it did not turn out as well as wanted (publicity wise) and as for her work with Starlight, well who can say? All we know is that many parcels were sent and her mum went. Surely if she had gone someone would have leaked it out to the press. I have said before that I think she should get a small office job (not in her family’s business to prove that she is independent), should perhaps teach children sport or help in a local school (a CRB check is all that it takes and there would be no problems there) and should allow herself to be photographed occasionally but control how and where she is photographed i.e. official occasions with William perhaps. That would really improve her image and would prevent a lot of people from criticizing her. It would not take much effort for a fit 27 year old, but would be worthwhile and would not overshadow William at all.

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 09:20
    18

    Obviously we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes right now so it is hard to say what Kate is really doing. She could be doing anything from working all day at PP to setting up a home for her and William to preparing for her future role as princess/duchess. I agree about her needing to get involved with charities and to be seen doing positive things,though.

  • NYme
    February 15th, 2009 09:57
    19

    Lisa,
    “One has to wonder if Kate is being turned into the perfect royal bride from a Windsor perspective? One that looks nice at public events,stays home and raises babies and causes no public drama. One that will not overshadow the prince by doing too many great things?” The same thing can be said about the bourbon perspective. The royal family of spain. Letizia will not overshadow prince felipe by doing too many great things. She just remain in the background; what a pity for a so brilliant young woman. She did exactly what kate does today. She understand that prince felipe was not the man next door and she adjusted to his desires. It equally a great sacrifice. There was an article (translate in french) from a spanish newspaper which explain that letizia was now just a smile ! (I hope the BRF will give more opportunities to kate too prove she a great and warm and intelligent girl (which she is, I am a great fan like lisa and rman and… and …)
    Have a nice day

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 10:14
    20

    Nyme,

    Hopefully if Kate becomes a Windsor,she will be allowed to spread her wings but,personally,I doubt it and that may be fine with her. Being a wife and a mother and acting in a supportive role to William may be what is comfortable to Kate. As she gets older and her children get older,as Diana did, she may begin to spread her wings more but I would not expect it off the bat. JMO, of course.

  • ked
    February 15th, 2009 11:21
    21

    Hello,

    I make no apology for repeating this but please do not take every happening or non happening and try to turn it into a ‘KM does this, KM does that ‘ or ‘KM will do this or will do that’.

    It is becoming more and more obvious that during the next few years, if KM and PW remain an item, we shall see less and less of her in public.

    I make no apology for saying that and will even go further and say that the number of times she is seen with PW over the next few years will be a lot less than even last year.

    Yes there may be events or occasions when they will be present at the same event but it will be as or in a group of friends with several other ladies and several of PW friends all in attendance.

    I think that the RF have now accepted KM but on PW’s terms and the absence of any dubious comments allegedly coming from proximity of CH or from friends close to PW now shows that the new advisors have blocked that hole.

    I suspect that even their holidays may become low key and a lot less frequent than previously and notice of them will become retrospective and vague.

    If you take the last few weeks as an example I would suspect that there has been contact between them but not an item of news has come out since their return from Scotland and this will be the norm until PW decides to act.

    Obviously KM will get out and about but like her recent visit to the ballet and other venues they will not be disclosed until a report comes out after the event.

    For many of us who are used to seeing her at clubs or shopping or even travelling to work it will be difficult to understand what is happening but I do believe it is all part of the plan to take the heat out of them as a couple and concentrate on more and more on PW career and his personal charities.

    Then in a few years they may become a couple , (in the eyes of the populace I mean) with an eventual engagement and marriage.

    Perhaps.

    The nonsense and hysteria of the past will be buried and attempts to bring it all into perspective and normality will be the prospect we shall have to endure.

    Am away again for several days but will attempt to keep abreast of what happens but I do not expect very much news at all.

  • gracie
    February 15th, 2009 11:23
    22

    KM can hope IF she becomes apart of the RF she will find doing charity work rewarding as it is really the only way for her to spread her wings and do something independant of her family. I am really surprised that the press did not run any stories about what PW gave KM for VD. No stories, very quiet. It makes me mad actually because the press especially DL brought up marriage speculation again, I start to get my hopes up especially w/Ingrid Seward piece and then it goes cold. I wonder if PW is doing training out of the UK or something?

    B, you have any idea why KM is so underground?

  • gracie
    February 15th, 2009 11:40
    23

    Ked, it seems that if KM is “on call,” then why should such a lively, young woman not want to go out? Has she done something that would warrent her to loose her personal liberties? Did she get caught w/her hands in the cookie jar and therefore this is how the RF dictates she must live her life from now on so she will be in the good graces of aristo,RF circle? If they are not a couple I can’t imagine why she would go along w/some of what you say. Unless the RF have turned into modern day Sopranos or something. She sounds like an indentured servant to the monarchy and for what?

  • Hale
    February 15th, 2009 12:54
    24

    Hello everyone. May I say excellent posts everyone.

    I too am of the opinion, especially following Alsgals comment the other day, that as much as we would like to see Kate, we shan’t. I do believe the, ‘I’m a private person when I’m not with William’ will prevail. Unfortunately.

    We should also bear in mind William’s aversion to the press. So even events with W we will not see a great deal of.

    Gracie, as much as I agree with you that it would benefit Kate’s image no end if she were seen to have a ’spark’, it’s not going to happen. Everything it seems revolves around W’s approach to public & media, and then filters down.

    Poor, poor H, what other revelation are they going to throw at us by way of taking focus away from W. Sorry, I know some might think that’s hocus pocus, but I really do believe it.

    The other thing I should like to say is, Gracie, I think it was you making enquiries about Sophie. As you know, I commented that I had read that Sophie had resigned from some of her charities because she was going back to doing PR work.

    Well yesterday when I was surfing through RK’s columns, one of the articles was about E & S and how because the Q is getting older, PC will do more visits to Commonwealth countries, taking Q’s place and E & S will do more work on behalf of Q & PP. I hope that may have answered your question.

    Rman, yes I agree, the new office does seem to have plugged a hole, but let us hope they haven’t plugged it permanently.

    I guess we just have to wait and see how all this pan’s out. I pray it isn’t there to just ‘pander’ to W’s reluctance to do royal duties.

    I do believe, contrary to ‘others’ opinions that W will marry K, but I am also coming to Ked’s opinion that W shan’t do that until he has done what he has to do in SAR.

    Sorry if what I am about to say upsets people, but what I see as W’s approach to RDuties is something that MUST BE resolved before he marry’s K. By virtue of the Act of Settlement.

    Again, I am really, really, sorry for this, I know I’ve said it before but me doth thinks that he doth have the DOW about him.

  • Lisa
    February 15th, 2009 13:15
    25

    Hale,I am not sure I understand your last statement regarding the act of settlement.

    Do I think William is a reluctant royal? Yes I do. When he *has* to step up, will he? Yes he will. My fear is that someone or something(an event) may have to force his hand. I know one thing,if I were Kate, and I was being asked to lay low, don’t go out in public too much etc,there had better be some firm(pardon the pun) plan in place and not one that was 4 years away or I would gracefully decline and move on.

  • Me
    February 15th, 2009 13:21
    26

    Excellent post Hale.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 14:07
    27

    Yes all of you guys have made excellent posts. I enjoyed reading them. But we shall see what will happen. I firmly believe that something is going on behind the scenes. There’s one thing not to see Kate but we are not seeing any members of her family. There is no telling what Kate is doing other than working at PP so I think she is doing other things behind the scenes. I do to believe William will marry this woman and I don’t believe they will wait for a long time to do it. But I don’t think their relationship is all about marriage which is the media makes it out to be. Maybe I’m going crazy though because I have a strong feeling that Kate got that ring and trying not encourage any attention at the moment. But we all on here know that will not last long and when that announcement is made, my God all hell will break loose. As spring approches, things will come to light and the dead “no news” will be over.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 14:10
    28

    I did mean “approaches”.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 14:10
    29

    Very observant gravie, I had not noticed that there were no articles about Valentine’s gifts as usual. No, I haven’t heard anything about why she is underground. I used to hear comments/rumours/ideas etc. when I lived in the apartment in Chelsea. But I tend to spend most of my time away from London now except when I want to go shopping; I can’t stay away from Harvey Nichols for too long. LOL.

    Lisa, I agree I would say that he should love, respect and want me no matter what I do (within reason of course :) ). She is 27 years old and should be able to have her own life, I do hope that she does not look back and feel that she has wasted her twenties and regrets it. I am afraid though that she might, it is a shame really.

    Very good post Hale and I also agree with you to; that William should become more comfortable with royal duties before marrying otherwise it would be a case of the blind leading the blind. Besides, it can do him no harm and only good to become more experienced in royal affairs, I hope that he does over the next year or two.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 14:12
    30

    Rman, why do you think something is going on behind the scenes? Is it just the fact that there is no news or something else?

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 14:18
    31

    I don’t know why B, I just have this feeling that something is going on behind the scenes. It’s a feeling I cannot shake even when you face reality.

    But there is some royal report that Her Majesty’s young cousin Lord Frederick Windsor is engaged to Sophie Winkleman, his girlfriend of two years.

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/World/Story/STIStory_338809.html

  • mapleleaf
    February 15th, 2009 14:49
    32

    Ked, I must say that I totally agree with your comment # 21!!

    I think you hit the nail on the head exactly. I do think that William and Kate have decided to keep things as low key as possible in order to move the press attention away from Kate in general and away from their relationship in particular.

    It makes sense, it’s a very logical thing for them to do if you ask me. ;) It ensures that they will be able to spend quality time together without their every move being catalogued and dissected by the media, and it’s also an excellent way to repair any damage to Kate’s public image.

    With Kate being completely out of the public eye there are no complaints that can be made about her. No one knows what she’s doing, where she goes, what her days are like, so they won’t be able to legitimately find anything negative to say.

    I’m sure they will, but what will they be able to say that’s actually relevant? That they’re angry because there isn’t anything new to persecute Kate Middleton with? That there isn’t anything new to find fault with?

    Sure they’ll bring up shopping and clubbing, etc. But Kate hasn’t done those things on a regular basis since 2007.

    The naysayers have been placed in the position of not having anything new to say “nay” about. :lol:
    It’s the perfect way to bolster up Kate’s reputation. The general public gets bored easily and they forget things quickly. The longer Kate is out of the public eye, the better for her reputation.

    And if she continues the practise of only being seen in public when she’s with Wills, that will also silence the naysayers.

    Yes, I definitely agree with your recent comment, Ked.

  • sonia
    February 15th, 2009 15:57
    33

    Ked
    I must say that I totally agree with you as well. Whenever something happens (not necessarily related to KM ) everyone tries to turn it into what KM does or will do, etc. I believe that people in this site are precipitating a little bit too much.
    When it comes to marriage, honestly I dont see anything happening pretty soon. It is obviuos that PW is more interest in his military career than in marrying, of course he could marry and still be in the army, but as to why I know, this is not what he wants. He wants to concentrate in his career and get ready before he marries because he knows that it will be really hard to focus on both things (as it was to sarah duchess of york and to prince andrew) so
    he wouldnt want to make the same mistakes his family has done. We all know that.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 16:05
    34

    But it’s not repairing her rep. at all. People are not seeing her going good or something positive so those feelings remain.

    I agree with sonia. I think she has expressed some very interesting points. :)

  • dome
    February 15th, 2009 16:08
    35

    I think all this quiet stuff with Kate is not to help fix her reputation as such. But to stop the damage on William’s reputation, as all of this is starting to damage his reputation. I see this quiet period with Kate as being done for two reasons.

    1) The public forget her and should he finally decide to marry her. They can then attempt to fix her image a bit more better.

    2) If the relationship does end and end for good, then Kate being out of the spot-light will just be remembered slightly by the public as being his girlfriend and nothing more.

    I think it would not hurt her to be away from the spotlight for a few years, because it allows her to try and get on with her life. At the present she is still very much on her own, without the help of the Palace and CH for help.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 16:15
    36

    Well the public still considers Kate as William’s consort but I do wish we would see her once in a while. I still think when the spring kicks in, we see her and possibly doing some charity work. I still think if we see her doing these things, the press will continue to give her some good attention.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 16:20
    37

    I think the new team is cooking up something and things are just quiet until they are ready to make things known. I hope William & Kate had a great Valentines Day and it must be fun for them to continue their relationship privately.

  • dome
    February 15th, 2009 16:21
    38

    Congratulations to Freddie Windsor for popping the question to his girlfriend.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 16:27
    39

    Yes dome that is great news. That must mean The Queen had her Privy Council meeting and approved. The Royalist have a piece on it.

    http://www.theroyalist.net/content/view/4359/1/

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 16:36
    40

    He would have had to have the relationship approved by the Privy Council??? I didn’t think that he would have to seeing as he is not the heir/ spare to the throne.

  • B
    February 15th, 2009 16:42
    41

    So confused right now:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2589087.stm

    “That is because the full council only comes together on two occasions: when the monarch dies and the council proclaims the accession of their heir; and when a monarch intends to marry.

    The habit of princes and princesses marrying before they reach the throne means the latter circumstances has last happened when Victoria was Queen.”

    So does the Privy Council have to meet to decide upon a marriage or not???

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 16:50
    42

    Hi B, if you want to know more about The Privy Council here is the info.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty’s_Most_Honourable_Privy_Council

    The Queen have these meetings on a regular bases and engagements everynow and then pass through these meetings. But no they are not held just for a marriage.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 16:52
    43

    Sorry here is the link.

    http://tinyurl.com/buqauy

  • Me
    February 15th, 2009 17:29
    44

    The Privy Council meets every month except for January, August and September.

  • Hale
    February 15th, 2009 17:41
    45

    Lisa this is the Act of Settlement

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Settlement_1701

    Among other things, it is about who the RF may marry, and who inherits the crown.

    It is currently under review by our government. They hope to change it. What is currently under discussion is:

    Any member of the RF will BE ABLE to marry a Catholic, and if they do, it does not bar them from inheriting the throne.

    It will not in future necessarily follow that the first born son will inherit the throne, if the first born is a girl, then she will automatically become heir apparent.

    What I mean’t in my post, and why I am happy at the present time their should be no marriage is; can you imagine what would happen if W was married with children and then when the time came he was unable to ’step up to the plate’. Then the duty would fall on H and his wife. They would be required to sacrifice their personal lives, and time with their own family. However, it would be W’s children to inherit the crown not H’s.

    In other words, we would have another regency on our hands. I think would be terribly unfair on H, unless Parliament completely changed it.

    The whole thing would not be cut and dry, but rather a monarchial constitutional nightmare, not seen since the last abdication.

    I for one do believe W will marry K. Quite right to. Yes, and I do believe they have a ‘firm’ plan in place.

    I accept this is all guess work, as neither us know any of the royals. Although, I truly feel Alsgal hit the nail on the head. I don’t beleive any of the Middleton’s are keeping a low key, they no longer have to. Not if they have brokered a deal with the press. Remember, KM is a private citizen. K is only known for being the g/f of W. Therefore, the press have no right to report on any of them unless they are in the company of W or other well known people.

    So I expect to SEE K at Freddie & Sophie’s wedding.

    Meanwhile, I was quite taken aback by Freddie’s resemblance to a young Edward VII. It is striking.

    Prince Michael of Kent is patron of my husbands unit. My hubby say’s he’s just like one of the guy’s and never ever misses any of the special commemorative events they have there.

    As for focusing public attention back on public works. I can only hope.

    Then again, because of W & H being in the military they do not do a great deal. What W & H do is given coverage, as media has and alway will favour the young.

    Me…B…Thank you for your kind words.

    Alsgal…Wherever you are, huge thanks to your posting the other day. I believe it has been the basis of all the fantastic postings made by the members of this forum.

    PS You say you drink gin, well I hope its Plymouth.

    :grin:

  • gracie
    February 15th, 2009 18:11
    46

    I can understand that the less visable KM, the less to talk about and will help repair her PR. The problem is she still gets talked about and most is negative. I think this is due to the fact that she has been very visable for years and now not so much. It could appear to the press that she is doing this only for William because that is what he and the RF want her to do. If they are broken up and were honest about it, then William would not look like he controls KM and she would loose the “Waity Katey” moniker.

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 18:12
    47

    Hale I also believe a firm plan is in place and with this new advanced team at St. James’s Palace, the doors has opened for their union.

    Oh I have no doubt that she will be there for the wedding.

    B, what’s the update on the baby?

  • Rman
    February 15th, 2009 18:23
    48

    I agree Gracie but I think they both are in control of this relationship and they have their hooks in each other. The media does paints a interesting picture of this couple. They make it seem like William has every bit of control over her but I get the feeling that is not the way it is. Kate may look sweet but I don’t think people should be fooled by her appearence. I don’t see this guy dating a weak character. A relationship cannot function properly like that. For this has lasted seven years, I think both have great strength in the way they conduct things.

  • Hale
    February 15th, 2009 18:39
    49

    Rman,

    I have never doubted that KM is far stronger than anyone gives her credit for.

    What people choose to forget, and need to remember, is it was Kate who talked William into staying on at university when he became having problems with his History of Art degree.

    It is on record as Kate been the influence on William and convincing him of changing his subject.

    Therefore, IMO she may be ‘waity katey’ but that does not make her some passive door mat.

    What we need to remember is those books which are due to be released this year. Not to mention the PR that will go with them.

    Perhaps that’s another reason they’re both keeping low key, things may be resolved on Kate’s behalf by releasing not one, but several.

    Rman, I know your such a sweet romantic, but please don’t let my posts make you despondent. I have never doubted their relationship for one moment.

    As for my opinions, they’re just ideas I have kicking around about the monarchy in general.

    Anyway guy’s, to all you forum members and your exceptionally good posts….

    Goodnight, God Bless and may your God go with you.

    :lol:

  • Phoebe
    February 15th, 2009 20:18
    50

    I don’t believe that it is “on record” that KM was the one who convinced PW to stay at school, if in fact he needed convincing. Indeed, I have seen other sources who have said it was his father who talked him into staying.

  • Me
    February 15th, 2009 20:22
    51

    But when you google, KM convincing PW out numbers the 1 or 2 articles about daddy.

    Major broadsheets and Tabloids.

  • Phoebe
    February 15th, 2009 20:45
    52

    Speculation based on spurious sources.

  • Rman
    February 16th, 2009 00:34
    53

    I know Hale. I appreciate your opinions.

    It is a fact that Kate and his father helped William through that difficult time at St. Andrews. I too believe some PR will kick in.

  • B
    February 16th, 2009 04:10
    54

    Thanks everyone for your info about the Privy Council, I am no longer confused :)

    The baby is well thank you Rman. The bump is no longer little; I’m due in May so not long to go now. We’ve found out on Saturday that the baby will be a girl. So my partner and I are thinking baby names and colours for the nursery.

    I certainly think that Kate will be at the Lord Freddie and Sophie wedding, no matter whether she and PW are engaged, close to engagement, not at all or going through a rough patch. In fact the only way I see her not being there is if they have had a huge row and broken up very badly.

    I have always felt that I am sure she had some influence with William over the St Andrews thing but not too much. She probably supported him and advised him but I think at the end of the day it would have been his family that would have helped him more. During what point of the first year was he considering leaving? Was it after the first term or much later after exams?

  • Lisa
    February 16th, 2009 08:38
    55

    B, congrats on your news that the baby is a girl! How wonderful for you.

    I agree with you,Kate will be at Freddie’s wedding but as usual, I am sure she will be there without William. This surely will be another low key royal wedding. I wish the bride and groom many years of happiness!

  • gracie
    February 16th, 2009 08:46
    56

    B, good news for you on your baby girl! KM was friends w/Freddie before she and PW got together, I think? Alot of the peers are getting engaged, I wonder if bothers her?

  • Hale
    February 16th, 2009 08:50
    57

    B…Congratulations, a baby girl. Have you decided on a name yet?

    Lisa, once again your comment has echoed my thoughts. I was wondering that. I have no doubt that K will be at the wedding, but will W also.

    I sometimes get the feeling that he didn’t attend the Phillips wedding because of the speculation it may have fuelled between him and Kate.

    The story about him going to Kenya in order to a attend the wedding there came a little to late in the day for me. Am I wrong? Did anyone read about it sooner?

    Although I am aware they both attending the wedding in Austria.

  • Lisa
    February 16th, 2009 08:59
    58

    hale,I have always felt that William did not attend the Phillips wedding because of the attention he and Kate would get there,especially with the Hello! deal. I also felt it would have been uncomfortable for William to have Kate seated away from him. I think he did the gentlemanly thing and bowed out so Kate could attend. It was really a no win situation,but with both Kate and Chelsy there,they could be seated together and it was not so akward for either of them.

  • Dymphna
    February 16th, 2009 09:37
    59

    I can’t help but wonder if PW is behind Kate’s disappearance from the public, in part, because of the role the press played in his late mother’s life (and death).

  • Hale
    February 16th, 2009 09:49
    60

    Lisa…Fair point…as for W doing the gentlemanly thing…Ahhh…..bless.

  • Hale
    February 16th, 2009 10:34
    61

    Hey Lisa…I just though of something, I wasn’t being cynical, what I mean’t was Ahhh…bless as in W was being sweet.

    I felt I had to clarify that one. So much gets lost in translation.

    :lol:

  • B
    February 16th, 2009 11:51
    62

    Gentlemanly thing…hmm. Surely the better option would have been for HER to bow out rather than him. It is his family after all and if they are worried about publicity why should he have missed his family’s wedding? No, I believe that there was a wedding in the Craig family I have seen a website which was created by the couple with the details for those attending and the dates did match. Unfortunately I no longer have the link as I received it from someone else.

  • alsgal
    February 16th, 2009 12:48
    63

    So Freddie is marrying Big Suze. Odd, as I thought he was one of those men who prefers batting for the home team?

    Since Sophie is an actress, perhaps that will help?

    Good luck to them both.

  • Hale
    February 16th, 2009 19:09
    64

    alsgal….did you see me question at 45? What brand of gin do you drink? Please don’t let it be Gordon’s.

    gracie…have tried clicking on your name to see what comes up. Instead of, I don’t know, I get something asking me did I mean ‘aol.com’.

    Whatever it was, I hope it wasn’t X rated.

    Anyway, I’ve got builders calling round tomorrow, so best get to bed.

    Goodnight….God Bless…..and may your God go with you.

  • alsgal
    February 16th, 2009 19:16
    65

    Hale, re 45 and 64: I drink whatever costs the least.

    aol? Deirdre, is that you? ;)

  • gracie
    February 16th, 2009 19:48
    66

    Hale, are you trying to email me is that what your talking about? All my X-rated stuff falls under a different name. I try to keep my personal life seperate from my professional. It’s less complicating that way!