Prince William and Kate Middleton spotted out and about
His brother’s love life may be complicated - especially with Harry apparently rekindling his romance with Chelsy Davy - but Prince William has been indulging in more traditional courtship.
At the weekend, William was seen having a quiet lunch with his girlfriend Kate Middleton at chef Tom Aikens’s restaurant Tom’s Kitchen in Chelsea - the first time the couple have been seen together in public for two months.
Indeed, they have been keeping a low profile since the brief split in their relationship two years ago.
On Saturday, the Prince, who is training as an RAF search and rescue helicopter pilot, looked relaxed, wearing suede loafers, a baseball hat and jeans. (via Daily Mail)
Photos here, here and here…
March 9th, 2009 05:31
great pics but i couldnt grab.:)
BRW can you give me the site?
** BRW **
Hi bluefire – here are the links;
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article2306579.ece
http://pinkisthenewblog.com/home/2009/03/prince-william-kate-middleton-keep-on-creepin/
http://bauergriffinonline.com/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=kate+middleton&IncludeBlogs=1
Unfortunately the little thumbnails don’t get any bigger
March 9th, 2009 15:23
Great news. Haven’t seen them together for a long long time.
Kate looks bad,wow she has aged and appears sad.
No looks of happiness there. She looks so sad. I feel bad for her.
What is taking place with them? They look so troubled.
March 9th, 2009 16:02
Kate doesn’t look aged to me, she looks just like everyone else in their late twenties.
I can’t see Wills’ face in the pics, but I assume he’s as handsome as he was on Friday when he reviewed the Police Parade in Hendon.
I’m happy Wills and Kate had a nice lunch and enjoyed a movie together. They don’t look sad or troubled, they look like they were totally displeased with the paps’ presence, and I can’t say that I blame them.
It would be illogical for them to go out to lunch and a movie together if they didn’t want to do it.
The fact that they went out to lunch together and then went to see the movie about Wills’ 3x great grandmother, Young Victoria at the cinema shows that they want to be with each other. It’s the paparrazzi that are causing the irritation, that should be obvious.
It’s not like Wills LIKES the paps, is it? Have people forgotten so quickly how Wills acted in Klosters last March?
Think about it: Wills HATES the paparrazzi. That’s where the irritation and the running comes from. That’s also why both Wills and Kate had their hands up to their faces. They didn’t want to deal with the paps, and they didn’t want the paps to get good shots of them.
Chelsy did the exact same thing last week.
March 9th, 2009 17:04
I feel sad for her. She looks unhappy.
I read that she left with the friends who were there. William did not even drive away with her. This is sad.
Kate has aged. She looks so much older than her twenties, she looks in her thirties already.
Maybe it is the stress of not knowing her future yet with William.
He should be treating her better if he intends to marry her. Poor Kate.
She looks like she needs a hug.
William comes off like a selfish guy, keeping her hanging. Good luck to Kate. She should read him the riot act, get a proposal and get settled into the House of Windsor as his fiancee. The longer he hangs her out like this , the worse it is for her in the press. I fear she may end up unmarried to him, after all these years.
March 9th, 2009 17:26
Jane do not pretend you feel sorry for Kate. You know as well as everyone who pretend they are not together ,know they are very much together.
Everytime you naysayers see them to together you guys invent excuses.
They looked like any normal couple hanging out.
It looked like they exit the restaurant and saw the paz and William looked back and told Kate to hide her face and she did.
She does not need your good luck because she is lucky enough to be dating a prince which a bunch of you very jealous girls would love to do.
March 9th, 2009 17:46
Kate looks aged?? she looks her age to me
I actually like what they are wearing- they look so “normal”, if you know what I mean:-)
March 9th, 2009 17:58
Can someone tell why William drove off and left her there with the friends?
Kate looks old, something weird is going one with her face, she simply looks much older. I haven’t seen her photo in a while, but she looks so much older than when she was at the Diana concert that summer.
I feel bad that she is not his fiancee yet, it must be stressful for her. He could put her in with the Palace as his fiancee and then at least she’d have some protection and know that she is going to marry him.
I hope they get engaged soon, because she looks so stressed in these recent photos.
Good luck to her.
March 9th, 2009 18:03
Not a single article has mentioned the couple went for lunch and cinema with “friends”.
March 9th, 2009 18:23
They didn’t go to the cinema. William left and Kate left in another car with the friends.
The press has no photos of the cinema arrivals at all, because William did not go.
Why wasn’t Kate wearing that ring she always use to wear last year when she would be out? Anyone know?
I’m just wondering why she looks so different, she doesn’t seem like the girl I saw at the Diana concert. She looks thinner and not happy at all, like she use to look.
March 9th, 2009 18:44
Guys we have been hoping for awhile that we would see the couple now that we see them, people are taking their relationship and throwing it the garbage along with their looks. They just had a nice lunch with each other and got a little annoyed with the paps. That’s all there is to it. They are still together and doing fine. Like I said before Kate don’t always wear the ring and it may be on the other hand.
That engagement will come in it’s due time.
March 9th, 2009 18:45
Well,Jane lets see…I don’t think anybody here knows why Kate wears one piece of jewelry on any given day. Whatever the reason, it does not matter. The ring you refer to is the one supposedly given to her by Wills,however since neither Kate nor Wills speak about such things publically, the origin of the ring is yet another rumor. It should also be noted that a person out for a casual lunch with a longtime partner need not dress up fancy or wear alot of makeup in order to look nice in pap pictures. They view these pictures as an invasion of privacy and therefore try to not look at the cameras or pose together. This makes the value of the pictures lower.
believe what you like. If it makes you more comfortable to believe that Kate Middleton is just a friend of William’s and not his lover,girlfriend or longtime partner,thats great. You might,however try to refrain from making up facts such as”:they did not go to the cinema” and “William left and Kate left in another car with the friends” You simply don’t know these facts. Frankly speaking,even if Kate was driven with someone else, it bares no relevance as to the state of the relationship.
March 9th, 2009 18:50
yeah,Rman the engagement will come and then what will they say? LOL. Sometime these comments amuse me and other times……
William and Kate are playing by their rules. not the media’s and not the public’s. Good for them. They should not be forced to behave such a way to appease people who think they should be showing affection publically or acting a way that they either don’t feel comfortable with or have been told not to. Is it really the right thing for a future King to hang all over his girlfriend in public? We have seen them together in a more natural setting such as his birthday last year and the pictures on the boat and they were shown acting like any other normal couple. They just refrain when they know they are being watched and papped.
March 9th, 2009 18:57
What is going on here? First people assume they have broken up because they haven’t been photographed together in a long time. Then when they are photographed together, people think there is something wrong.
I would not be surprised if we have to wait a couple of more months for the next pics.
It just goes to show, if you want to avoid the paps, stay out of London.
March 9th, 2009 19:04
I agree with everyone here.
Jane, I agree with you Kate looks plain without makeup. I also look plain without makeup. So that fact alone does not have much meaning for me regarding the state of Kate’s relationship with PW.
I just can not read anything into that one photograph of William (not a frontal view) and Kate with no makeup.
I need more information than that single photo in the Sun provides before I can support KM and PW getting engaged, getting married, having separated or being just friends.
I need an official annoucement from Clarence House stating that they are engaged or stating that they are no longer a couple.
I guess we will all have to hurry up and wait.
March 9th, 2009 19:05
Lisa I don’t think we have ever seen a future British king all over his girlfriend. Charles was never seen all over Diana but we know they did something, hell they had two children. The Queen & Philip was always stiff in public but something happened because they had four children. You just act a certain way in public when you are in their position but when they get home, all hell break loose. So I don’t worry about the distance of William & Kate because something tells me, everything is alright. We did get alittle taste of that love at his birthday picnic. I will never forget those pictures.
March 9th, 2009 19:12
I like your reasoning Clover, it makes perfect sense, more info is needed.
I just think she looked sad, but it could be for any reason. That is true, I’ll wait and see what occurs in the coming weeks before any conclusion is drawn.
I do wish her the best still.
March 9th, 2009 19:44
Rman and Lisa,
Even if KM and PW were hanging all over each other it still wouldn’t convince me of much. PDA does not always equal lifelong partners.
Jane, You have a right to think that KM looked sad, certainly other posters have a right and do state what they think and feel. There are many people here who believe that KM and PW are secretly engaged or are going to get married ASAP. I won’t put you down for seeing whatever you see on Kate’s face. It is okay to have an opinion, even an unpopular opinion.
March 9th, 2009 20:06
Lisa Rman
Oh dear… This is crazy you are completely right whether they are seen together or not people like to make crazy comments. No wonder they like to stay out of the lime light. Whether they left together or not is nbd. Lisa you are correct PW hates the Paps and tries to avoid them at all cost. KM is probably following orders to keep herself out of sight which is why she covered hers. They could have been a number of reasons why she left with friends. Regardless I am just happy that they were seen out and about and I can’t wait for an announcement to come in due time…. If only to quite the naysayers…
March 9th, 2009 20:25
Well here is a little documentary called Queen Camilla that was made last year. It’s a 1-5 video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y4ad5nWPE8&feature=channel_page
Although the doc a good one, I just don’t like how they portray Diana and make her out to be the monster and the woman who should have kept her mouth shut when her husband was seeing someone else.
I have to give some praise to Camilla though. After all of these years, she has kept her mouth shut and just never say anything about her private life. That’s how she survives as a consort to a future king and I notice Kate do the same. No matter what people say about you, your relationship or family, keeping your mouth shut will work miracles for you.
JJ, I keep William & Kate in my prayers and look to the future with hope. I hope they know we are pulling for them, every step of the way.
March 9th, 2009 20:42
Rman,
I agree with what you said about keeping your mouth shut, IMO it is worth its weight in gold. It is so important.
I think KM and PW are doing the right thing by keeping their relationship private.
March 9th, 2009 20:59
Amen. silence is truely golden in this case. Kate’s discretion in the face of the media storm that has surrounded them since they started dating is nothing less then remarkable and speaks volumes about her character,IMO,
March 9th, 2009 21:15
I saw the pictures on the W & H site. In the pictures, Kate looks thoughtful (like she is thinking about something) In one picture, you can see almost a little curve of a smile. I am very glad to see them together. They are really meant to be together. They have chemistry. It is a special relationship which shows that without them being all over each other. I am sure that they save the PDA-private display of affection.
March 9th, 2009 22:03
Jane, are you able to show the article where you read that William drove off separately and Kate went to the cinema with friends?
If not, if you didn’t read it in an article, then where did you read or hear such a story? If it was from some non-journalist person on the internet, then there’s no reason why anyone should even pay the story any attention.
I could tell some elaborate story about my “best friend” seeing Wills and Kate drive to a private airfield and take off in a helicopter. I could even swear that it was true “because my best friend was in the helicopter next to them”.
But that wouldn’t make my story true. Anyone can tell a crap story and claim that it was seen/heard/said by the ‘friend of a friend’.
But if there is no actual newspaper article saying Wills and Kate didn’t go to the cinema, then it’s just some anonymous person’s story.
At least with journalists, we know they work for the press and they have some sort of accountability. Anonymous people on the internet aren’t accountable to anyone other than themselves.
The newspaper articles said that Wills and Kate had lunch and then went to the cinema to see Young Victoria.
March 9th, 2009 22:23
She looks like she is in her thirties, when she is only in her twenties???? Oh noes, her life is over.
Hate to break it to you, but you don’t suddenly look 30 when you turn 30. In fact, late 20s and early 30s, it is hard to tell the age difference.
As was pointed out, she was not wearing makeup, which changed her looks. Who know what she was thinking either? Maybe she suddenly realized she left the iron on and was afraid she had burned down the house?
Kate and Wills went to lunch. How nice. they seem like a lovely couple who are just trying to have a relationship (at whatever level) without everyone over analyzing every single move, look, hair, clothes, jewelry.
March 9th, 2009 23:08
Mapleleaf,
I think that Jane got some of her info from a post that Ked did #44 Prince Harry and Astrid-The one with her blue outfit.
It sounds somewhat like his posts. Again, they are eating out at lunch and went to the movies. Both are activities that are normal, down to eath, and what a normal couple would do. Very nice afternoon I’ll bet.
March 9th, 2009 23:37
Gee JANE – You seem to have all the answers but I think your answers are very off the mark. Which site did you come over from and why such negativity towards Ms. Middleton? Why do people like you always give this girl a hard time? She’s with William – end of discussion. You seem like you’d love to see her miserable but it’s not happening!
March 10th, 2009 00:47
Thanks for explaining that Kat. I can definitely say that I’m not surprised it was something that Ked said.
As Ked is not a journalist, IMO think it makes sense to take his stories and information with a SERIOUS grain of salt. I’ve noticed that he never provides any proof or validation with his stories, he just says he heard this or he heard that, but that’s all he says. And he always says it in a cryptic manner.
I think Ked seems like a nice and pleasant guy, but IMO he says some really rubbish things sometimes, and he never bothers to validate or provide facts for anything gossip he spreads.
Then some people like Jane repeat his words as if they were the actual truth.
And Jade Falzon, I totally agree with your statement.
March 10th, 2009 02:06
JJ
Its no wonder PW hates the paps. He was old enough to see and understand what the paps did to his beautiful mother. There are stories that as a very young boy he was passing tissues under the bathroom door to her. I don’t think PW or PH will ever be at ease with the paps, and good on them I say. I think the paps are totally immoral.
March 10th, 2009 02:12
Some really great comments here. There is sanity on some royalty blogs about Kate & William after all!!
March 10th, 2009 05:39
I need to clarrify something. I did write that it sounds like information that she got from a post that Ked made. However, he said that the information came from comments that he had heard. He specifically said that he would not comment on the comments. I am sorry if I gave the impression that he said the comments.
March 10th, 2009 08:05
I dont’ know why everyone is saying KM looks sad. I think they were probably upset that when they came out all the paps were there. By the way they were dressed (very casual) and no make-up, to me, it seems as though they thought they could sneak into this place and not be followed by the paps (who obviously got a call from someone inside the cafe). Maybe they look tired from all the romping they’ve been doing???
How many women do look good w/no make-up? I am just happy to see photos of them together! As for why they took seperate cars? Who knows, maybe PW had to go have tea w/the Queen or go back to the his base.
March 10th, 2009 09:16
The Queen will attend Cheltenham on friday, other royals expects as well.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Queen-attend-festival/article-755000-detail/article.html
March 10th, 2009 09:22
Thanks for that link Lisa. I’m personally hoping Kate will attend at some point and brighten up our week.
March 10th, 2009 09:35
It would be interesting if Kate makes an appearence with the royals. Or she may go on another day.
March 10th, 2009 09:39
Well,it would be unlikely that she would appear on friday with the Queen unless they are seriously trying to send a message. I doubt it. Weds or thurs probably and my guess would be without Wills.
March 10th, 2009 09:58
I hope KM shows up – I loved the hat she wore last year!
March 10th, 2009 10:05
William does have royal engagements on the 12th and 13th.
On the 12th, I think is the anniversary dinner for centrepoint. On the 13th it is something to do with a childrens charity, I can’t remember.
Personally, I am becoming more and more convinced that the lunch date was a PR thing.
Meanwhile, on the RIT forum, one of the poster has said that a French magazine is claiming an engagement will soon be made.
Personally, I don’t believe it. How is it a French magazine would have access to that kind of information.
March 10th, 2009 10:11
Hale,William’s engagements may be in the evening so he could attend if he wanted. I don’t think he will because I think his PR people are really trying to downplay the speculation of William and Kate’s future plans and having them attend together would be counterproductive. Unless an announcement is imminent,Kate will attend alone if she attends at all. JMO, of course.:)
March 10th, 2009 10:33
This site is becoming popular with my co-workers, they just like reading the comments but don’t know much about the royals.
March 10th, 2009 10:53
I dont’ think the lunch date was a pr thing. I doubt KM would have gone out without make-up had she known there were going to be press there. Do you think?
March 10th, 2009 11:45
I agree with kd. I think they were surprised by the presence of the paps at the restaurant.
I don’t think KM will make an appearance at Cheltenham. Just a feeling.
March 10th, 2009 11:49
You know what Alsgal is thinking? The Queen will make a point of standing next to Kate at Cheltenham to signal Kate’s acceptance into the BRF. Camilla and Charles might also be there, which will signal to just about everybody that W&K are as good as hitched.
As far as W&K being there together — my money is on Kate being there with Pippa her racing companion, with William (who is not a big racing fan or so we have heard) away training somehwere.
March 10th, 2009 11:56
What day do the Royal Family attend Cheltenham? It can’t be today as The Queen is presenting medals etc.
Do hope KM and PW attend.
March 10th, 2009 11:58
Charles and Camilla are not in the UK and will not return until the 18th. Zara was at the races today and I am betting we see Kate there weds or thurs. According to the POW site,Wills has two engagements on fri so it is unlikely he will attend with HM. BTW…”ron” has a new article up. It says alot of nothing,however. He is probably trying to increase his dwindleing traffic.
March 10th, 2009 12:33
It seems to me at least that Wills and Kate are feeding the press/paps just enough to let people know they’re still on item. Surely they would expect the paps to catch them in London?? If they wanted to go unseen surely there’s a restaurant in Berks that would be more low-key.
In my opinion this ‘appearance’ was done so Kate could avoid going to Cheltenham (and an ensuing pap frenzy) yet people now know she hasn’t been abducted by aliens etc…
My big question is why are things getting so ’smoke and daggers’?? I guess we’ll see!! JMO by the way
March 10th, 2009 12:33
I don’t think Kate will go with PW unless an announcement is imminent otherwise it would completely undo the low key approach which they have been taking. If she goes it will probably be with her sister or her mother. As for Ron good riddance to bad rubbish I say…. The less people that comment on “Ron’s website the more likely he is to shut up shop… And about time too…
March 10th, 2009 12:35
I meant smoke and mirrors/ cloaks and daggers oops!!
March 10th, 2009 12:39
Rman – I think that is funny your co-workers are reading this now. Where do you work???
Do you think PW & KM are keeping everything so low key so that the press cannot criticize KM when she is not working as before even though she is working for her parents? And heaven forbid she take a day off!!
March 10th, 2009 13:12
Kd I work for a cable company.
I think the couple enjoy their relationship out of the spotlight once in awhile. It’s bad though when people start to think their relationship has gone to hell in a handbasket if they don’t make regular appearences. Which I understand a little because when Prince Philip hurt his back and The Queen was on engagements without him, the media practically had the Prince on his death bed. So the royal family appearences is very important. William & Kate is a beloved couple and they really get everybody excited when they are out together so when they disappear for long periods of time, it make people think too hard and the word (split) comes to mind. I think there and many good benefits to their low profile approach but it won’t last long because they know their appearences is important.
March 10th, 2009 14:10
Ron would be ?
March 10th, 2009 14:21
Hello,
I think I will initially make it clear that I am not saying the following but genuinely asking if any of you guys have any knowledge that KM has been in uncertain health for the past five months or so.
I have noticed since last September/October time there have been several references to her health both on here as well as other sources and even in some paper reports.
As most of you know I tend to analyse situations and try to link them to known facts so I would be grateful if there are any helpful suggestions or observations.
Thanks.
March 10th, 2009 14:43
Here is that program made about Paul Burrell.
Paul Burrell What Really Happened.
http://tinyurl.com/c7gq8d
March 10th, 2009 15:09
I think that KM and PW should keep everything between them hidden until they are ready to marry, because this girl attracts both admiration and hatred.
Often with those who admire Kate Middleton spewing hatred towards those who do not like Kate Middleton.
It seems the nastiest comments are by those who like Kate towards those who do not like Kate. Read the comments at Pinkisthenewblog and all the royal sites.
My observation leads me to believe that both the Kate lovers and the so called Kate haters can be equally aggressive in their opinions with both sides resorting to ugly and offensive language. For one group Kate is the target of their agrression and for the other group those who target Kate are the target for thier aggression.
IMO, those who like Kate and those who do not like Kate seem equally hateful.
Can someone remember any other royal date or girlfriend who has stirred up this much negativity, feelings of anger and aggression from both those who like her and those who dislike her?
I am not sure I have seen anything like the way the pro-Kate and anti-Kate groups go after each other!
March 10th, 2009 15:45
Clover,
I take your several points about KM” likers and dislikers” and also your biggest point which was that no other royal girl friend has received such negativity as KM .
Do you not think the reason is in fact in PW’s hands? He has taken his dislike of the media to such heights that any negative comment on any small blog is seized upon by the media and enhanced and publicised.
A calmer approach may have prevented their attack on what they consider his weakest point, KM, and mercilessly pursued every small transgression and enhanced it in their attempt to ‘get back’ at PW.
Other Royals, even his Mother and Father had very good reason to hate the paps., but they also realised that there was a way that they could be used and often gave a little to get more back.
Had PW taken that route and given a little then he would still have had them on side and KM would still be the darling of the press she was two years ago when she could do no wrong.
In addition his own indiscretions may have been played down and he would have retained his popularity.
As an earlier poster has said he will need all the good will he can muster and carry forward as he nears his time to take his throne.
Mr/Mrs Public has a long memory and there is nothing like bad press to remind them.
March 10th, 2009 15:59
Well Clover, I often wonder what would have been said about Sophie if royal sites was a big thing back then? Or Diana & Sarah. I do realize that not everybody is going to like Kate, which is fine but I just never like the lies that is spread about her. Like that Telegraph artical awhile back said that she is just a image and we don’t know who she really is and that is very true.
All I can say is that I trust William would never bring anything bad into the Monarchy. He’s seem to be a smart man and the young girls still fall all over him. He could have any woman he wants but after seven years or nearly seven years, he’s still with the young woman who he met in college. He has introduced her into his family and The Queen seems to have accepted her so when I read some of those comments on the other sites and they paint her as a monster from hell thatwill bring down the Monarchy, I can’t help but laugh at it.
Did you guys look at that doc about Paul Burrell? It’s really good and gave me some info that I never knew about him. That’s one interesting man.
March 10th, 2009 16:03
http://www.pointdevue.fr/pointdevue-en_couverture
Can someone translate this?
March 10th, 2009 16:05
Ked,
Thanks for the insight. I really think you may be onto the underlying reason for all the attacks on KM. I guess I never saw the media connection so clearly, your argument makes sense.
The reaction to Kate Middleton by those who dislike her and those who like her towards those who do not like her seems EXTREME.
Something ELSE must be going on, like the following.
If the “media” hopes to get to PW they could easily do so by attacking the woman he is dating, the woman he obviously cares about. This alone could make his life miserable.
Thanks for providing this particular angle I will give it some thought and see if it holds up as we receive more information about the status of the KM/PW relationship.
March 10th, 2009 16:14
Now Ked I do agree with that. The press knows that Kate is a very important person in his life and attacking her is a way of getting back at him. When she was in London and going to work, it was hell for her so I believe William and kate’s family pulled her out of it and know things are much more on a calmed level.
I do believe this new team will properly bring Kate into her role. It’s just in a matter time when it starts.
March 10th, 2009 16:15
Rman,
I am not sure if Sophie, Diana or Fergie would have attracted the same agrression from royal blog posters and assorted journalist as KM does. Camilla I can not defend, that is a different story altogether.
Ked’s theory about the media being out to get PW only explains part of the problem: the media writing nasty articles about KM, the media reading royal blogs and repeating gossip and possibly out and out lies about KM or that Kate is a “monster from hell.” Would the same thing happen to anyone PW dates? I wonder.
I like the point you made about PW’s judgment. Would PW date a woman for 7 years who would all but destroy the monarchy? Would his family allow him to date a woman who would eventually destroy the monarchy? PROBABLY NOT.
I am off to watch the documentary on Paul Burrell and I will let you know what I think later tonight. : )
March 10th, 2009 16:31
Clover I think this was your most interesting point : “It seems the nastiest comments are by those who like Kate towards those who do not like Kate.
That statement more than anything really tells me your feeling about Kate Middleton. You act like you have a balance approach but I get the impression you really do not like Kate.
March 10th, 2009 16:38
here is a rough translation of the mag article…
Strange, this escapade in the Scottish fogs to pass the midnight supper of the New year together. Three days earlier, William and Kate were still supposed to fly away towards a luxurious Swiss ski station. Once more, they are where they are not awaited: in Birkhall, with Charles and Camilla, on this royal field of Balmoral where the young prince and that which was not whereas a friend spent their first weekends to two, in the cottage Tom-Na-Gaidh, placed at the disposal of Wills by the queen. Scotland, it is also the place of their meeting, at the university of Andrews Saint, where they studied the history of Article together It is finally the place where Charles passed his honeymoon with Diana, and again with Camilla. Balmoral and the river banks Dee par excellence remain the romantic place with the eyes of Windsor. Ideal for a proposal. That would explain besides the presence of prince de Galles and of the duchess of Cornouailles and the fact that, for the first time, the young couple resides at Birkhall, remains official, and not in an additional cottage.
However the scenario seems impossible. The proper mother of Kate, two weeks earlier, entrusted her concern, after the advertisement of the departure of William for eighteen months of formation as pilot of the air force: “We do not know what Kate will do now. Our feeling is that there could not be a marriage of the whole well. ” The advertisement of engagement, then scheduled for January, falls to the oubliettes. The marriage, in best of the cases, is pushed back sine die. Palate filters the distress of official vis-a-vis the unexpected decision of William. And one believes in it. Wrongly.
March 10th, 2009 16:38
Vogue,
You are certainly free to interpret my comments anyway you like. I simply made an observation based on comments made on this and other royal blogs in the past and in particular yesterday. You can do the same by going through the comments made yesterday about the photo showing Kate at lunch with PW.
Take note of comments regarding the photo that appear anti-Kate and then look at the style of the reponse by those who are pro-Kate.
That is all I am asking you to do. I am not sure what that says about me and where I stand on the Kate/PW relationship.
March 10th, 2009 16:41
Part two…
In fact, all that was only one lure and the holidays with Birkhall are well what they seem to be. Of sure source, the official statement announcing the marriage of William of England with Miss Katherine Middleton must be published within one month. Perhaps the alarmist confidences of Carole Middleton were sincere. With less, and it is more probable, than it did not contribute to draw up this smoke screen allowing sempiternal promised in marriage to announce their engagement with their respective families, far from public curiosity. Hardly returned of Scotland, William and Kate find themselves, this time at Middleton, in Bucklebury, in Berkshire. It is 21:00, this Friday January 9, when the prince parks his Audi black in the garden of the family property. It comes to celebrate the 27 years of its beautiful in the intimacy, just in the presence of the parents of Kate, Michael and Carole, of her brother, James, and of his sister, Pipa. Here is also the occasion to make its request in a formal and discrete way. William will set out again only the following day afternoon for Highgrove. Close relations of the couple admit in addition that William and Kate as much as possible tried to escape the media pressure lately. If they together little were seen, “they continue to be seen much, but are arranged to maintain the secrecy”. Thus they have recourse to a network of sure friends who lodge them incognito. They for example spent three days at Arthur Landon, wire of the late brigadier general Tim Landon, which was one of the richest men of England. Continuation in number 3164.
Take it for what it’s worth…:)
March 10th, 2009 16:49
Here is the translation of that french artical. Some of the words is still in french though. Very interesting artical, read carefully.
William and Kate DRAMATIC TURN OF EVENTS FOR a MARRIAGE By Antoine Michelland
Strange, this escapade in the Scottish fogs to pass the midnight supper of the New year together. Three days earlier, William and Kate were still supposed to fly away towards a luxurious Swiss ski station. Once more, they are where they are not awaited: in Birkhall, with Charles and Camilla, on this royal field of Balmoral where the young prince and that which was not whereas a friend spent their first weekends to two, in the cottage Tom-Na-Gaidh, placed at the disposal of Wills by the queen. Scotland, it is also the place of their meeting, at the university of Andrews Saint, where they studied the history of Article together It is finally the place where Charles passed his honeymoon with Diana, and again with Camilla. Balmoral and the river banks Dee par excellence remain the romantic place with the eyes of Windsor. Ideal for a proposal. That would explain besides the presence of prince de Galles and of the duchess of Cornouailles and the fact that, for the first time, the young couple resides at Birkhall, remains official, and not in an additional cottage.
However the scenario seems impossible. The proper mother of Kate, two weeks earlier, entrusted her concern, after the advertisement of the departure of William for eighteen months of formation as pilot of the air force: “We do not know what Kate will do now. Our feeling is that there could not be a marriage of the whole well. ” The advertisement of engagement, then scheduled for January, falls to the oubliettes. The marriage, in best of the cases, is pushed back sine die. Palate filters the distress of official vis-a-vis the unexpected decision of William. And one believes in it. Wrongly.
In fact, all that was only one lure and the holidays with Birkhall are well what they seem to be. Of sure source, the official statement announcing the marriage of William of England with Miss Katherine Middleton must be published within one month. Perhaps the alarmist confidences of Carole Middleton were sincere. With less, and it is more probable, than it did not contribute to draw up this smoke screen allowing sempiternal promised in marriage to announce their engagement with their respective families, far from public curiosity.
Hardly returned of Scotland, William and Kate find themselves, this time at Middleton, in Bucklebury, in Berkshire. It is 21:00, this Friday January 9, when the prince parks his Audi black in the garden of the family property. It comes to celebrate the 27 years of its beautiful in the intimacy, just in the presence of the parents of Kate, Michael and Carole, of her brother, James, and of his sister, Pipa. Here is also the occasion to make its request in a formal and discrete way. William will set out again only the following day afternoon for Highgrove.
Close relations of the couple admit in addition that William and Kate as much as possible tried to escape the media pressure lately. If they together little were seen, “they continue to be seen much, but are arranged to maintain the secrecy”. Thus they have recourse to a network of sure friends who lodge them incognito. They for example spent three days at Arthur Landon, wire of the late brigadier general Tim Landon, which was one of the richest men of England. Continuation in number 3164.
March 10th, 2009 16:50
Sorry Lisa, I didn’t know you had already posted it. LOL.
March 10th, 2009 16:51
Thats ok. What do you make of it?
March 10th, 2009 16:55
Seems like it’s old news.
March 10th, 2009 17:15
I have no idea, I just thought it was a interesting artical with an idea of whats going on. I don’t know who said it on here but it does look like a smoke screen is up and something is going on behind the scenes. I have said it before that I do not believe things has been pushed back but the Palace is going about this in their own way. So I just wait until they make the announcement and I don’t think we should get deep into any speculations, just wait.
March 10th, 2009 17:41
I thought it was an interesting article. Some of the thoughts are plausible but I don’t know if this publication has a reputable source. The concept that the engagement announcement was delayed makes sense. I keep remembering the Robin Nunn book at that was scheduled out in late dec/jan and now is set for May 2nd.
March 10th, 2009 18:07
Also bear in mind that the publication Point de vue was the same publication which said last I think it was around October that within days Prince Albert of Monaco would announce an engagement to Charlene Whittstock. I honestly believe that KM and PW are just taking a low key approach to their relationship and it is probably working for the better. The odd sighting here and there provokes a little chatter but no where near a much as when they were both constantly in the limelight. Hopefully there is some sort of plan in place. I believe that with Princess Victoria of Sweden they must have been engaged for a while before it was announced as they said they were preparing him for Royal life for the better part of a year. Maybe this is KM’s makeover time??
March 10th, 2009 18:12
I’m just wating on that. JJ, I really do think a plan is in place and like that artical in the Telegraph said, the new teams installment at St. James’s Palace opened the door for the engagement to happen.
I hope Kate attends the races this week.
March 10th, 2009 18:24
Part of the reason the press turned on Kate were the courtiers in my opinion.
When William split from Kate, thats when the press turned because the courtiers in their overprotective zeal towards William a future King of England made sure that Kate should be seen as the bad person. What was it the press threw in her face? A secret boyfriend, troubles with alcohol, troubles with drugs? No, her class, nothing more.
The only protection Kate has ever received via the royal family is a protection officer. Advice has been greatly lacking.
It was her parents who secured legal representation, whereupon they made three or four offical complaints to the Press Complaints Commission.
I’m sure it was her parents who thought about Kate coming to work for Party Pieces in order to quell the press regarding her career.
I’m sure it was her parents who agreed to make donations to that childrens charity.
I think it was more Holly Branson who brought in Kate with regards to the roller disco. Not the best of ideas. But the point I am trying to make here is she has been under a huge amount of pressure, and aside from her parents I don’t think she has had a great deal of support.
Kate has learnt the best way to negotiate the press is to steer clear from them, and the best way of doing that is not venturing into London.
Paps earn their living from taking as many pics of celebs as they can. The best place for that is London. Where all the celeb haunts are situated. There isn’t the greater turnover of celebs in Berkshire as there is in London.
As for William. It all comes down once again to that Channel 4 documentary.
What did we learn? Harry has been making headlines. His relationship with/without Chelsy, his P*** video, his club nights, his drinking, his experimentation with Cannabis, his change of career. What a distraction this has all been, and the press left William alone.
Then there is Kate, the press have been focused on W & K’s relationship, but who has borne the brunt of all this speculation? It is Kate the media has been tearing apart. Again, another distraction away from William.
This in my opinion is what R Kay mean’t when he said, ’some cynics might say that William is using Kate as a decoy.’ Both Harry and Kate were decoys.
What happened next?
Aside from the latest headlines.
Harry has been learning to fly. We haven’t seen that much of him. Kate has been keeping a low profile. Suddenly the press turnaround and actually begin to focus on William.
They begin to question his work ethic, and note that Charles whilst serving in the RN completed a greater number of public engagements in one year than William has done.
St James’ Palace reacts angrily to the second documentary about the royals. No one steps in on behalf of Edward or Andrew, but they do respond to remarks about William.
Then lo and behold, pictures emerge of William and Kate having lunch. We are also informed that they went to the cinema with one and other. No pictures of them entering or exiting the cinema. Nevertheless, this is one story I do believe.
I maintain this date was a PR stunt. Furthermore, I am coming to the conclusion that W & K knew about it, hated it, hence the dressing down.
Focus of attention is now once more on W & K’s relationship. Not Williams limited public engagements.
I adore William and Harry. Not least because they are the sons of Diana. However, they are both in serious need of a good boot up the backside.
They want to be ordinary blokes. Going out in the evening and having fun just like their contemporaries. Yet their contemporaries do not always have protection officers. They are not shown any form of deference. They do not live in palaces and are waited on hand and foot.
Whats more they do not have a regiment of flunkies ready to smooth over and cover any hairline crack at a moments notice. All of which incidently is funded by the tax payer.
Instead of constantly whinning on about the press, they should learn to shut up and get on with it. Which is exactly what the Queen, Prince Philip and Princess Anne have always done.
The protective light of our blessed Diana can only shine down upon them for so long. It will extinguish eventually.
Then what is left?
Two princes who wasted a golden opportunity to use their youth, their titles and their status as sons of a tragic icon, in order to inspire those to do good and help those who aspire to a better quality of life. What a waste.
As for William, our future King of England. Ohhh, we are expected to sympathise and understand his aversion to the press. After all they were responsible for his mother’s death.
Well, frankly this explanation is wearing thin. If he can’t abide the press then he should step down.
What makes him anymore special than any other member of the royal family? He’s not the first royal the paps have chased. He is not the first royal who’s romances, habits and friends have been the cause of press speculation.
His father went through it, his uncles went through it, his aunt went through it, his late aunt Margaret was at one time the most photographed woman in the world alongside a young Elizabeth Taylor. They all got on with it and so should William.
He can’t be calling on the press saying look at me I’m doing a public engagement and fronting a charity in one breath and then giving them a two fingered salute in the next breath.
The royals and the press need each other. It’s a two way street. Each uses the other. Every fool knows you can’t control the press. Every fool except William. They to have their breaking point, as do the public.
March 10th, 2009 18:27
Also a poster on the Royal Forum said that The new Point de vue don’t spread gossip so it’s interesting though.
March 10th, 2009 18:37
Thanks for that Lisa and Rman. A little disapointed in the article. A poster on the RIF claimed it was about a possible engagement. Which it was, but not imminently.
By the way, I am very impressed with you both, that you should speak French.
Meanwhile, who is Ron?
Clover, I agree in part with you, however I view it as the other way round in contrast to you. Although I have heard it said the regular Kate haters have been forming their own site.
Why? I have no idea, bearing in mind the existence of RT and of others I’m sure. I just think they are forming it because they want to be ‘mods’.
March 10th, 2009 18:44
Hello,
It may well be that the French article itself is a translation from, possibly,a European diplomatic briefing and may itself be the second part or follow up to an earlier briefing.
Most of it has already been discussed on here previously one way or another but may just confirm the hurried decision to delay any announcement, details that may well have been pre-circulated earlier in certain quarters
I don’t think it adds to or detracts from the thoughts that many of us already have.
March 10th, 2009 18:48
Hale, don’t worry it will come.
March 10th, 2009 19:05
I think we who like Kate feel the need to defend her because what has she done to warrant such negative attacks from people who really know absolutely nothing about her. The internet is full of sites where you will not find one rational mature or kind comment about Kate. Fortunately, this site is not one of them and I hope it stays that way…..
March 10th, 2009 19:11
Guy’s who is Ron?
Da doo ron ron.
March 10th, 2009 19:27
Hale it is John from RA. They do not want to say his name
March 10th, 2009 19:31
Okay vogue, thanks for that. I thought it might have been another forum. They do keep springing up.
I’m calling it a night. Have to be up early tomorrow.
Therefore, goodnight, Godbless and may your God go with you.
March 10th, 2009 20:16
Hale,thanks for the compliment but I don’t speak french,lol. I used a translation site.
March 10th, 2009 20:21
you can defend whatever opinion you want, but to try to silence others, well, that is just wrong, and quite frankly it will never work.
Those that have a dim view of Kate will not take a better view or be quiet because they are bullied by a few nut jobs ( present company excepted) they will continue to express their point of view.
There seem to be some really nice people on here that don’t seem to focus on what people are saying so much as what their own opinion is and i personally think that is the right attitude.
If you like Kate than great, if you find her unsuitable then you should be able to express yourself. What the media does with that is really their business, and i have seen more often than not stories made up by the media or reported that have nothing to do with what kate naysayers are saying. the media is not influenced by the naysayers in a blog.
But i can tell you that a journalist from a major publication in England is posting regularly at this site and is asking you for information on Kate. They are pretending to like Kate and have a dim view of William at times. Their inside knowledge is from sources to the media. Be careful what you say this person is not your friend, they are simply out for the story….
March 10th, 2009 20:27
But i can tell you that a journalist from a major publication in England is posting regularly at this site and is asking you for information on Kate. They are pretending to like Kate and have a dim view of William at times. Their inside knowledge is from sources to the media. Be careful what you say this person is not your friend, they are simply out for the story….
Facinating…my guess would be ked,right?
And may I ask how you know of this information?
March 10th, 2009 20:35
There is only one poster on this site who, in my opinion, writes well enough to have work as a journalist with a “major publication”, and that person is not British and shall remain nameless.
March 10th, 2009 20:41
Okay I highly doubt a journalist posts on this site because if so, their not getting any good stories.
March 10th, 2009 20:42
my question is why would anyone think any of us would have any such information to share? Any such information obtained on a internet blog is not reliable and any so called journalist would be foolish to use it as a source. As we have proved in the past,any one of us can sign on under another name and claim we are chicken little and the sky is falling.
March 10th, 2009 20:49
Phoebe, in this case”,major publication” could mean the Sun or the DM,neither of which require their journalists to be on the top of their profession if you know what I mean. I don’t doubt that people from these papers visit internet sites to see what is being said and possibly pick up a tip or two…
I mentioned ked because in an earler post,ked inquired as to whether any of us had heard anything about Kate being “unwell” lately. ked has also inquired about things in the past as well. Just saying…
March 10th, 2009 21:13
I must admit that Hale’s post has left me speechless. I think that he has has made many excellent points. I think that the world joined William in mourning for Diana. Also, I don’t think that he should be blackmailed into marriage. I think that the press has given him a reason for disliking them immensely. However, he is the future king of England. Kate is his girlfriend. I really do not think that they would be seen together after all of the engagement speculation. Also, what is telling is the description of them together when they are with friends. Two examples come to mind. During the wedding in Salzburg they looked as though they were the ones getting married. That was pretty much of a quote from someone who was there. At a charity event covered by Hello, it was stated that there was not doubt that they were together. Ked, do you know something about Kate’s health? You throw these things out and do not follow up on it. So please give some details. Rman you are truly the defender of all things Kate. Thank you and Lisa for the article about Kate. I am keeping my fingers crossed for them.
March 10th, 2009 21:26
Lisa,
I do believe that paps/”journalists” monitor these sites for tidbits of information, and occasionally, they hit a goldmine. For example (and this is strictly my take on it, but well-founded), the info about KM’s involvement with the Sisterhood Dragon Boat Race was first leaked through a comment posted (by someone in the US in fact) on an unrelated DM story. However, I think any possible leaks that they have any control over have been plugged, and with KM in deepest purdah, that kind of stuff isn’t going to happen again. What they are looking for is second- or third-hand information dropped inadvertently that may in fact turn out to be reliable. It has worked before.
Ked has dropped (a) hint before that he/she either worked for or was somehow connected with BBC2. This may be true. Then again it may not.
March 10th, 2009 21:31
Phoebe,ked drops alot of hints about alot of things as many times never follows up or explains them which is why some people here,including myself have some issues with his posts. While I find them enjoyable for the most part,sometimes the stuff he posts is a little out there and it does worry me that rumors will start as a result. I don’t know what waydownsouth’s motive is. Hopefully he/she will make a reappearance and offer further explanation.
March 10th, 2009 21:43
He’s stirring the pot to see what surfaces. Either that or she’s sending secret signals to someone.
March 10th, 2009 21:44
I think they might troll the internet sites as well because it seems some articles come out a few days after we write about certain things. It is probable they post as well. They are desperate for any William and Kate news regardless of the source.
March 10th, 2009 22:01
LOL, you are welcome Kat. That’s all we can do is keep our fingers crossed and just hope and pray for the best.
March 10th, 2009 22:03
BRW:
1) What time zone do the time stamps on posts represent?
2) Why are the time-stamps hyperlinked?
March 10th, 2009 22:38
A more fluid translation, not perfect, but darn near!
The getaway in the Scottish fog to spend time together for new years is strange. Three days prior William and Kate were supposed to take off for a luxurious ski holiday. Once again they were where we were not expecting them: at Birkhall, with Charles & Camilla, in this royal domain, where the young prince and at the time the one that was only his friend, spent their first weekend together, in the Tom Na Gaidh cottage, Wills was granted use by the Queen. Scotland is also the place where they met, at the Uof SA, where they studied history of art together. It is the place where Charles honeymooned with Diana and then later with Camilla. The Windsors see Balmoral and the edge of the river Dee as a quintessentially romantic place. Ideal for a marriage request. This could explain as well the presence of the Prince of Wales and the Cornish Hen (ok it says the Duchesse of Cornwall – i couldn’t resist) and the fact that, for the first time, the young couple stayed at Birkhall, the official residence, and not in the attached cottage.
Nevertheless this scenario seems impossible. Kate’s own mother, two weeks prior, confided her worry after the announcement of William departing for 18 months to train as an RAF pilot “We do not know what Kate will do now. We feel that there may well never be a wedding at all.”
The engagement announcement planned ( OR anticipated) to be held in January has been forgotten. The wedding, best case outcome, has been pushed back without a date set. From the Palace filters the upset of the courtiers/staff, in light of William’s unexpected decision. And we believed it. Wrongfully.
As a matter of fact, all of this was just an illusion (OR a decoy) and the holidays at Birkhall are exactly what they seemed to be . Sources confirm that a news release announcing the marriage of William of England to Miss Katherine Middleton will be (OR must be) published one month from now. Maybe the alarmist revelations from Carole Middleton were genuine. Although, and this is more probable, assisted by casting a smokescreen allowing the endless finances to announce their engagement to their respective families, far away from public curiosity.
Barely back from Scotland, William and Kate this time find themselves, at the Middleton’s in Bucklebury in Berkshire. It is 9 o’clock, this Friday January 9th, when the prince parks his black Audi in the garden of the families property. He comes to celebrate his girls 27th year in an intimate setting, in the presence only of Kate’s parents, Michael and Carole, her brother James, and her sister Pippa. This would be the time for him to make his request in a formal and discrete way. William did not leave until the next day after midday for Highgrove
Those closest to the couple admit that William and Kate have undertaken attempts to escape this latest bout of media pressure. If we see little of them together, “they continue to see each other a lot, however it is arranged in such a way to guard the secret” Thus they have resorted to a network of safe (OR certain)friends who can house them unseen. They have, for example spent three days at Arthur Landon’s, son of the Late Brigade Tim Landon, who is one of the richest men in England
March 10th, 2009 22:57
just popping in with my .02
this site is generally pleasant and relaxing…i hope it stays that way
right now it seems that some newbies are having fun pulling legs with some nonsense comments….
hopefully no one continues to take the comments seriously
how is it that one post from some probable troll can turn anyone against long time posters?
many posters on here have been posting for a long time, longer than many of the current regulars….
a couple of posters live and work in the area of London where the main protagonists spend (t) a fair amount of time….this affords inside info from daily chatter—from shopkeepers, taxi drivers, clerks, etc—often way more reliable than any “stories” from the tabloid press (and, really, when was the last time you saw an article about KM in the Manchester Guardian, for example? )
just sayin’
March 10th, 2009 23:22
hmmm that didn’t keep B around did it.
how come when someone new posts information that might be helpful to those that will listen to something other than their own farts you call them a troll?
Stop running people off of here.
I stand by my statement, someone is here to garner information and run their ideas by you, probably to see if you will be fed it, so they can then go back and print it
March 11th, 2009 00:03
waydownsouth, thank you for reposting the artical and changing those words into english. There were many of us on here that found the sudden change of their vacation location funny from the beginning. I just hate the thought of getting into some speculations but something was telling me that William gave Kate that ring. It all look like it was perfect timing. Although I’m being patient and just waiting, my gut feeling is there are many happy days to come. You guys may think I’m crazy or have been nipping too much at the cooking sherry but I can’t get pass this feeling.
March 11th, 2009 00:33
Honestly, I do feel bad for the girl.
I’m obviously not saying this out of jealousy as I’m a bloke and not gay for PW, but it’s a bit sad how she’s still waiting for him after all these years. The whole RAF affair going on with PW sadly, is just an excuse. I have a few friends who are in the RAF and some a bit up there on the rank but they managed to settle themselves quite well. This girl is pushing thirties and if she has put marriage in her plans, she should be finding someone who will not make her wait.
She’s obviously very devoted to this relationship, and we cannot judge whether or not her intentions for staying with PW is to be part of the royal family(personally I think that’s a bit ridiculous), but it certainly isn’t fair for William to put only himself first in this relationship.
March 11th, 2009 00:38
And Kate Middleton looks fine in those photos.
She doesn’t look sad or anything. She just looks like a normal person, which she is. So those of you who are complaining that she looks “plain” is because she isn’t a supermodel. I think she looks perfectly fine.
March 11th, 2009 04:07
Hi Phoebe,
>> 1) What time zone do the time stamps on posts represent?
The timezone is UTC -5 which is Eastern Standard Time (Eastern states of the USA).
>> 2) Why are the time-stamps hyperlinked?
They are linked so that people can link directly to each comment if they wish. Makes it easier than, for example, saying “In that post last week I think it was a comment half way down…”
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/2009/03/09/prince-william-and-kate-middleton-spotted-out-and-about/comment-page-3/#comment-21621
March 11th, 2009 05:34
Waydownsouth some of us here who are aggressive against Kate naysayers here long ago have been driven from other sites where the vitriol and sheer hatred of all things Kate Middleton were the rule of the day. If you attempted to reason with anyone at those sites you were accused of intolerance of other opinions, shouted down by posters, and abuse of powers by site administrators. Some of the posters from those sites would LITERALLY BRAG ABOUT COMING TO THIS SITE AND OTHER MORE REASONABLE SITES TO STIR TROUBLE AND DUPE POSTERS HERE. As much as some don’t like “Ron,” he kept a handle on those trolls and BANNED THEM when they were troll training his site, sharing screennames and attempting to disrupt his site. Over the last few weeks I’ve begun to see the same thing here, except they begin by coming here posting seemingly innoucuous remarks AGAINST Kate Middleton. My opinion is don’t come here making stupid remarks about how William doesn’t want to be with Kate because he’s walking in front of her, or Kate Middleton’s a stalker. Take that kind of garbage back to where to the rocks crawled from under, most of us are not buying here.
As for whether the press reads this site as well as others, my response is ABSOLUTELY. The term “Waity Katy” was a directly LIFT from one of those more prolific anti-Kate sites, THAT TERM IS NOT AN INVENTION BY THE TABLOIDS. They picked it up from a website of posters devoted to tearing Kate Middleton down.
So yeah, I’m hostile to the slightest negativity about her. Because I recognize the game. Sue me.
March 11th, 2009 07:30
Guest, now it is proven that Richard Kay reads at least one infamous site because he quoted a post regarding comments made by Dean Piper regarding Harry and this Astrid person who he was seen with last weekend.
I do think it is advisable to be very careful not to state things as fact and be aware that what is discussed on these blogs can find it’s way to the tabloids.
I also agree with you regarding posters who appear just to stir up trouble. They should be called out. I also agree about “Ron”, he does keep the nonsense off his site,however he also censors a bit more then I think he should. JMO.
March 11th, 2009 07:38
Where was I negative about Kate in my post? And you need to be a lot clearer about what y you mean by negativity; rudeness, name calling, yes that isn’t warranted at all, but critical thought and all angles explored must be allowed. If you think that every new thought introduced is a troll, stiring up trouble you cut youself off from the possibility of new facts being introduced to your own proof positive argument. While i might not agree with some other posters on other sites, i do read it, because somewhere somehow some of them might actually have something valid to say that would help me with my thought process on this given situation.
March 11th, 2009 07:53
waydownsouth, can you let us know how you know this person you claim is a journalist exists? Is is just a hunch or do you have some factual information? In the past,this site has,like many others, experienced posters who claim to have “inside information” but fail to provide anything to back up their claims. When the so called inside information fails to pan out,then people feel they have been duped,which is probably why some of us are suspicious of people arriving who claim to be “in the know”. Please don’t take offense. In the case of the relationship of William and Kate,clearly there is little fact and alot of rumor.
March 11th, 2009 08:15
Well said Guest. On the subject about why PW & KM did not go skiing; dont’ t you think the Queen had something to do w/that -informing her family to cut back on the lavish trips, going out etc. I always wondered if Ked was a journalist – Richard Kay????
March 11th, 2009 08:47
WDS, welcome to the BRW site. I need to say that your post at 82 kicked off aggressively.
That means there is clearly a problem…
March 11th, 2009 09:28
Well said Guest. Me ,WDS post was so aggressive because people who dislike KM hate to see any website or anyone saying anything nice about her.
March 11th, 2009 09:37
I just wonder how you can like or dislike someone you have never met!
March 11th, 2009 09:53
Well psychologically and proven its better to have the initiative and effort (s) to start off and end off with a positive mind about things in life.
If the door shuts, there is always a window.
A quiter or a negative view to the above example is when the door shuts, they give up.
Have you read “The Secret”
March 11th, 2009 10:08
Hale: Your post (#72) is an excellent analysis of the issue I presented earlier yesterday. Thanks! Again, I think the pro- and anti-Kate people sling mud with the exact same level of aggression.
Both sides throw punches Waydownsouth makes reference to this phenomenon in post #82, she makes a few good points about the anti- and pro- Kate people.
Phoebe,
Have you ever considered that a journalist in disguise would also hide by not writing in the high journalistic style you say has never been seen here on this site? LOL!
Frank, You have made a few good points.
Guest, Post #102 is very true on many levels. Both the pro-Kate and anti-Kate bloggers are very, very, very aggressive. Both sides are guilty of throwing punches. This brings me back to my original question.
What is it about Kate Middleton that brings out such strong emotions/hatred in both her supporters and those who do not support her?
Ked and Hale you have both given this serious thought and I appreciate the comments you posted regarding this issue yesterday.
So, shall we wait and see what the remaining days at the Cheltenham races will bring.
March 11th, 2009 11:46
Hale,
Great post #72. Think you hit a few nails on their heads!! This is a great site, let’s keep it that way ;0)
March 11th, 2009 12:09
So no Kate at Cheltenham again today? That is disappointing. It would be very odd for her not to attend this event as she has for several years now and seems to enjoy it a great deal. I think one can take “low profile” to the extreme. Hopefully this is not the case here. We will see what tomorrow brings. Friday is the day the Queen will attend so I think tomorrow is best and last shot of a sighting at this event.
March 11th, 2009 12:15
I reckon KM will be at Cheltenham on Friday. I believe the Queen will want her to be seen. Hope so anyway.
March 11th, 2009 12:18
Well Lisa hopefully we will see her there but she may not attend. Who knows.
There is a program called William and Kate- A Royal Romance, a simiular title to the book. I have been trying to find the video but I’m coming up with nothing. Do you guys know anything about it.
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/enews/nine/William-and-Kate—A-Royal-Romance-110308.html
March 11th, 2009 12:28
I don’t know,Redlady. Kate appearing on friday would send quite a strong message and unless the family is ready for that message to be sent,she will not be anywhere near Cheltenham on friday.
March 11th, 2009 12:46
I believe KM showed up last year on a Friday.
March 11th, 2009 12:55
All I can say is if she not there tomorrow and show up friday, it will get interesting.
March 11th, 2009 13:15
Dont’ forget, the media will criticize her for not being at work!!
March 11th, 2009 13:21
Rman,
True about what Kate attending the races will mean to those watching.
Lisa,
Kate avoiding the races could be part of her keeping a low profile.
Caz,
Do you buy CDs of certain musicians and not others? Do you vote for one politician and not another? Do you go to see actors in some movies and avoid other actors? Do you read biographies of a particular famous person and not another? Well there are a few good examples of ways we can like or dislike people in the public eye we have never met. This has been going on for centuries, the liking and disliking of people we will never meet.
March 11th, 2009 13:26
People calling themsleves journalists like Ingrid Seward and Robert Jobson hardly write in a high journalistic style even in their own publications, do they? Yet they are royal journalists and apparently earn a living as such.
Who cares if there’s a legit writer here, if Ked’s truly in the know, or it’s just some bored teenager with time to spare? The groovy thing about the Internet is that you can’t be fully sure of anyone’s anything or what their motive is for being there. Alsgal might know Gordon Brown the Prime Minister, one of the Casiraghi kids, have posted for eons on other sites as several different people, or even claim to be a rich heiress living in Spain. It’s not hard to download pics of other people’s houses, or “my” car, or show you a picture of a pretty 23 year old and say that it’s me when in fact, I might be an 14 year-old student with more chins than a Chinese phonebook.
Take everything and everybody with a grain of salt, even 60 year-old gin swilling grandmothers on lawnchairs.
March 11th, 2009 13:34
I think their are two members, possibly three that write well enough to make it a profession. We should all be aware of this and I know it’s in the back of my mind at all times.
Ked, as to your post #51, I have often wondered what could cause this and I think you know what I mean as you and I have made references to it in the past. I have always thought her hiding out is more then meets the eye. What says you? Duch of G had a similiar issue and was sent away for a while, but that was centuries ago and that would not happen now of course.
March 11th, 2009 13:38
Alsgal, I have always thought Ked was a teenager w/time to spare and you a 14yr old w/more chins to spare. In my mind, I am Nicole Kidman!
March 11th, 2009 16:14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161275/Prince-William-marry-Kate-Middleton-summer.htm
Deja vue anyone??
March 11th, 2009 16:29
Oh boy, what did we start?
March 11th, 2009 16:32
We ? The French started it.
March 11th, 2009 16:33
or perhaps Ingrid Seward in her latest editorial note
Anyway it has been 5 years of speculation from columnists to journalists.
March 11th, 2009 16:41
LOL, God I would hope CH or St. James’s Palace would confirm this. How many of these engagements stories can we take?
March 11th, 2009 16:52
Now it’s starting to spread.
http://news.sawf.org/Gossip/57139.aspx
I wonder what Robert Jobson has to say about this?
March 11th, 2009 16:58
I don’t want to get my hopes up yet again… Everyone loves a wedding though;0)
March 11th, 2009 17:04
True, I’m waiting for the Palace to say something but not until Charles & Camilla get back.
March 11th, 2009 17:07
Gosh, its almost 22.OO hrs. Almost time for bed.
First of all about this French article, yes, I am about to lambast the press again. Seriously I should love to believe it, but when are these guys including the DM are going to do their research.
The royal family were not at Balmoral for Christmas, they were at Sandringham. The royal family go to Balmoral in the Summer. PC, his wife, W & K were at Birkhall. Although didn’t earlier reports also include the Middletons.
Why should the Queen give William permission to use the cottage Tam- Na- Ghar on the Balmoral estate? William owns the cottage, the Queen Mother bequeathed it in her will. Also the Queen purchased a house that came up for sale on the Balmoral estate and gifted it to William as a place where he can retreat.
So the ‘waity katey’ came from a forum site did it? It never occured to me that they would read the forums. I am aware there are people who go around saying they know so and so, or they have a relative who is close to ….blah blah… Personally I take that as a pinch of salt.
But if journalists do surf this forum, well give us a job, I am praying to get redundancy and frankly I believe I could do a better job than Katie Nichol.
All I require is some great writing tips from my beloved Alsgal, and hey! I’m away.
Lisa, you post at 103, I’m off to look for the R Kay article. If I can’t find it any chance of you providing a link, Pleassssssssse
March 11th, 2009 17:15
I hope these stories are true! It is rather naive of me, but it would be just wonderful to see them get married. Kate would be a lovely bride.
But as always, I’m taking my daily pinch of salt!
March 11th, 2009 17:18
Alsgal,
LMAO at #121!
March 11th, 2009 17:18
Hello,
It seems that I have upset one or two wildmen from other sites ?
Look guys I don’t think anything has changed but I have heard that renovations on the Cheshire/Shropshire border are progressing quite quickly but for whom?
I can’t really see that PH will want to move in with the inlaws if that is the plan
Who knows?.
March 11th, 2009 17:22
alsgal,
60 year old bald headed pensioner one week, now a teen age waster!
I suspect you know better than that old gal.
March 11th, 2009 17:25
LOL, Hale. I think when they finally announce this engagement, we won’t even believe it. It could be put up on the royal site and we still probably won’t believe it. We have been down this road so many times, it’s not even funny. Although I pray that this is finally true, I’m just trying to turn a blind eye to this. I just pray we get pass this stage and into wedding talk. It’s like we got many mountains to climb but it’s so hard to get over the first one.
March 11th, 2009 17:28
That’s really interesting Ked.
March 11th, 2009 17:29
Rman, I’ve given up on Cheltenham, and instead am waiting for the polo season, at least its a regular weekly thing.
Ked, Ignore them, I LOVE you posts, they give me plenty to mull over, which must help in keeping Alzheimers at bay.
March 11th, 2009 17:30
Ked,
The DM article speaks of a quickened pace of renovation at the Harewood Property owned by the Duchy of Cornwall which is the source of engagement speculation:
“Rumours of an engagement have also been fuelled by intense activity in recent weeks on the Harewood Estate near Ross-on-Wye, a property acquired by Prince Charles’s Duchy of Cornwall in 2000 which, it is believed, has been earmarked as a possible home for William and his bride.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161275/Prince-William-marry-Kate-Middleton-summer.html
I found info on the Harewood Mansion:
http://www.rosscivic.org.uk/index.php?page=civic_510-Harewood_Mansion-A_Revised_Design
March 11th, 2009 17:47
Clover,
Is that the second or third house ‘being made ready’ ?
Does anyone know exactly what is happening with PW RAF training ? It really does seem to be on hold with his being in London over past several weeks.
If anyone is interested I did hear (YES AGAIN) that KM has been in LOndon over past 5 weeks but don’t know where she has been living?
By the way if you want to know what’s happening in Chelsea try a pint of Real Ale at around 5.30 at Builders Arms or saturday lunch time at Cahoots.
March 11th, 2009 17:52
Interesting you heard that Ked. Makes you think is this the reason why Victoria & Daniel wedding is set for next year?
March 11th, 2009 17:53
ah more amunition for the naysayers, kate in London for 5 weeks while William drops S and R.
This seems like a non chalant comment but really it shows them both in a very bad light.
How can that be good for either of them.
March 11th, 2009 18:03
Yes regardless if Ked is press or not he does keep us amused on here! I’m glad you found humor in my balding pensioner comment Ked. The Point de vue article has just stirred up a hornet’s nest. I would love to believe it is true but we will see I guess…
March 11th, 2009 18:07
I just read the DM article. What a load of nonsense. I am surprise that they are going crazy on a foreign publication… They may look very stupid if March comes and goes with no announcement. I just don’t understand why they would be in the know before any British publications????
March 11th, 2009 18:16
Something tells me next Tuesday, March 17th Alsgal will be even drunker than usual on St. Paddy’s Day and what with all the Vicodin required for the final numerical installment on Alsgal’s arse, Alsgal might not even have a pulse.
Kids, this is what we’ve been waiting for and I can feel it deep down in my edema swollen cankles that THIS LAWNCHAIR CAN REALLY FLY!
It just all makes sense: Victoria’s long engagement (will Kate be able to fly to Sweden or will she be too preggers I wonder?) the pap snapped appearance in London. The absence of news, absence of anything really.
If Kate’s not at Cheltenham tomorrow, I’d almost think it’s because she’s in London preparing for the anouncement next week.
If anyone wants to join in with Alsgal’s Engagement Celebration here is the recipe for my super secret but always popular Top O’ the Mornin’ To Ya Irish Punch:
gin
lime green sherbert
more gin
Just pick your ratio and imbibe.:)
March 11th, 2009 18:30
Ked, if Kate has been in London these past 5 weeks, why wouldn’t she stay in Chelsea? At the apartment her parents bought for her and Pippa. They still own it.
William has engagements on the 12th & 13th.
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/diary/index.html
March 11th, 2009 18:58
Royal Engagement Announcements:
Wed, 30 May 1973 — Anne and Mark
Tues, 24 Feb 1981 — Charles and Diana
Wed, 18 March 1986 — Sarah and Andrew
Wed, 6 January 1999 — Sophie and Ed
OK, Alsgal is changing her bet from Tues, the 17th to Wednesday, March 18, 2009.
That’s Wed, March 18, 2009
It’s in writing. There you go.
March 11th, 2009 18:59
LOL Alsgal lets just see what’s going to happen, lol.
March 11th, 2009 19:14
Hello,
I have a feeling that the French article may well have been picked up from a older diplomatic briefing made in the spring / early summer of 2008 when I do think that planning was well advanced.
Obviously PW’s September bombshell probably sparked off a second briefing negating the first one thus sparking the postponement comment.
Someone then got careless and the briefings probably picked up from a trash can and the miss info sold on using credence of original memo as some form of confirmation.
Just an observation.
March 11th, 2009 19:17
Perhaps it was that tourist who found the plans in the bush or was that her dog? Was that at Windsor?
March 11th, 2009 19:21
Hale,
I haven’t heard if she is at the Chelsea flat or not but the lunch venue at the weekend may be a clue.
I can also tell you that the taxi bods between Kings Rd and Embankment know who, where, why and what!
March 11th, 2009 19:24
Alsgal, what’s going on w/your arse that you need to take Vicodin? Don’t you know they call that “Hillbilly Heroin” in the states?
March 11th, 2009 19:32
God I hope all this is true.
March 11th, 2009 19:35
The Harewood Estate has pieces of it that were for rental on Duchy website. For instance, some of the horse barns, etc. They are asking arm and a leg for them so I am not quite sure if they really intend to rent or let as you say. I have heard nothing new on the estate itself other than it was being downsized, but that was a while ago. The outer barns, which I assume would be used for security are completed as well as the parish which is available to let as well. My info is from various google searches and looking at local papers for the area. I know one of the papers said that security was tight and that new trees were being brought in to be planted. I do remember a local saying that a particular road would lose access for the locals much like what happened w/ Highgrove when being built. I check the Duchy out periodically just to see if the property is still listed.
March 11th, 2009 19:37
Gracie, I was trying to have 2010 tattoed on my gluteus when the pain grew so unbearable I started shouting at Rhonda the Tattoo Artist in fluent Portugese. Which I do not speak.
So we stopped at 201 and Alsgal has been standing up ever since. Hence, the swollen cankles.
Rhonda assured me tonight me we can turn the one into a 0 and then add the 9, and then we are good to go.
March 18, 2009.
March 11th, 2009 19:48
I am hearing engagment rumblings from another site that is usually negative- I am excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 11th, 2009 19:55
Hello!
Would it be possible that Kate has been stying at CH or where William has an apartment her recent London visit? If she has been in the city for five weeks and no pics except lunch one, I think she is staying with her prince.
March 11th, 2009 19:55
Maybe the Middletons have bought another place. Don’t know about the real estate market in London, but if it is as depressed as elsewhere, it might be a good business decision, in addition to affording them another (heretofore undiscovered) bolthole.
March 11th, 2009 20:06
Alsgal, I thought you were getting all your info via tea leaves not your tatoo lady! Have you taken a peek at RA lately? From what I gather some seem to think that KM was out eating w/friends and called PW to come along w/a couple of close pap friends. I am just happy she has had a 24hr pass and she looks healthy! Please explain to me why PW needs to keep up the photo ops instead of ending the relationship like a normal person would do? He is suppose to be full-time RAF and should be more concerned w/saving others lives than his PR if that is the case. Alsgal, why can he and KM have lunch and a movie w/o it being for PR? I think we are driving Rman nuts!! Hey, if you can’t feel your front teeth, you need to lower your Vicodin intake or alcohol which ever is the easiest?!
March 11th, 2009 20:09
I love your name Ambiguously Fat! Very original.
March 11th, 2009 20:09
Hello,
I have just been dragged out of bed by excited friend.
Motor cyclist seen leaving Windsor Castle at 4.15 wed afternoon.
Does anyone have HM’s engagements yesterday and today?
March 11th, 2009 20:11
Ked, maybe you can give me those taxi bods phone numbers, cause they can’t give me any info over here otherwise?
March 11th, 2009 20:13
Ked, I hope Alsgal does not respond to your “excited friend” comment for your sake. What does it mean, please?
March 11th, 2009 20:19
Thank you, gracie!
March 11th, 2009 20:22
LOL, I’m staying calm Gracie. Whenever it gets here, I’ll be happy.
March 11th, 2009 20:27
Well I hope all of this is true. I would happily eat my hat…
March 11th, 2009 20:38
“Motor cyclist seen leaving Windsor Castle at 4.15 wed afternoon.”
Which signifies, what?
March 11th, 2009 20:49
Ked is I think getting at the fact that William rides a motorcycle. By implication- William went to Windsor castle to see the Queen in preparation for an announcement. I am hoping that is what really happened. Too many sources are coming out with little tiddbits of information.
There could very well be getting ready for an announcement.
March 11th, 2009 20:53
Do you think Kate would have looked that miserable if an annoucement was coming? No i would venture a guess William is seeing other girls right now of which one lives near Windsor.
March 11th, 2009 20:59
WDS, I agree with you, but I think KM looked irritated rather than miserable. And PW could just have been visiting his grandma while he was in town.
March 11th, 2009 21:13
William called off the wedding some months ago, why would he call it on again? So soon? Unless it was done for callous reasons of deflecting from the S and R disaster that a journalist is alluding to on this site. I do think it is high time he make a statement, like, I won’t get married till I am 40, because all this speculations has been going around in circles for more than a two years. He could stop it with one statement.
March 11th, 2009 21:37
Here is a Richard Kay reference to Dean Piper that someone was looking for. It’s at the very bottom:
http://tinyurl.com/dhwtnx
March 11th, 2009 21:46
I don’t think he called off the wedding awhile back but some dates may have been changed. I will be happy whenever it gets here because like I said before, they will not wait long. This engagement speculation just plucks my nerves.
I was listening to the Duchess of York interview recently. She is promoting The Young Victoria and she mentioned how different things are now. She said that Sophie got a chance to get use to royal life before her marriage. She is so right, look at Kate the royal family has welcomed her into the fold over the years and she has got a chance to taste royal life before she enter it. If the royal family tried this new approach long ago, maybe things would be different. Just a thought.
March 11th, 2009 22:28
Well, I just got home to my computer..what in the world is going on!LOL.
March 11th, 2009 22:53
Phoebe thanks for providing that link as I have been away from my computer most of the day.
March 11th, 2009 23:26
ok, so here’s something to ponder…The DM story,once in the “world news” section, has been removed. You can still link to the story by doing a search but if you just go to the DM site the story is nowhere to be found. I believe it is legit and they took it down to try to contain the leak,probably after a discussion with the palace. Charles and Camilla are out of the country so they cannot,IMO, make this announcement until they return next week.
March 12th, 2009 02:22
I, personally, wouldn’t consider anything legit unless I talk to Harry or William myself, no matter what is shown on tv. The press is completely different from real life. I’m not saying I know what I’m talking about, I’m just saying they are too far away for me to form an opinion on the matter.
March 12th, 2009 04:53
Hi Rman,
re: William and Kate- A Royal Romance
I had forgotten about that video until you mentioned it! It’s nearly a year since it was broadcast here in Australia.
I may have some good news for you in time for the weekend…
Steven
March 12th, 2009 05:09
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the engagement were announced later today and they PW and KM make their first appearance together at Cheltenham tomorrow? What a fairy-tale it would be. Here’s hoping.
March 12th, 2009 06:47
It would be nice, but highly doubtful. I don’t see them getting married or even publicizing their engagement for a while yet.
I’d love it to be true, because Kate has taken a beating in the tabloids and mostly on internet sites that feed the that feed the former with garbage, but they should take their time. I would not be at all surprised if Kate is the one dragging her feet because she knows the circus her life will become once it is announced. I would run for the hills knowing that is my future life. She’s a brave young woman.
March 12th, 2009 06:54
I don’t think anything will happen this week. If fact after this article leaked, I doubt Kate will show at the races at all.
What I find interesting is that only the DM ran with this story and took it down shortly after. It is almost like there is some sort of agreement in place not to run it.
Next week could prove very exciting. We just have to wait and see what unfolds.
March 12th, 2009 07:47
Hello,
Just aquick one. ITV, Channel 4 and Sky 1 seem to be trawling for sponsor and adverts time for a ’special’ programme.
Haven’t heard content but wonder if it’s a PW/KM special. I know they have lots in the can.
Perhaps we are in for a surprise?
March 12th, 2009 07:49
ked,it sounds like this news is becoming the worst kept secret in the world,lol…
March 12th, 2009 07:53
Lisa, I think you’ve nailed it.
The reason Kate and Pippa and the rest of the Midds were out of the news was probably due to an agreement brokered by G. Tyrrell and M. Head/CH/BP to leave them alone unless they were at a public venue or KM was w/ PW, in which case she couldn’t claim a right to privacy.
The Saturday sighting was either planned, or maybe not (London is a pap town, which is why she went to Bucklebury to begin with) to prepare people that they are still together so nobody has a heart attack on March 18, 2009.
The argument that “why would the French press have the story but the British papers don’t, therefore it cannot be true” is THE stupidest argument Alsgal has ever heard.
Of course it will be a foreign publication breaking the story if there’s a blackout agreement between the Palace/CH and and the British press.
Anyone remember who broke the Harry in Afghanistan story? The Australian mag and then Drudge the American.
It’s coming next week. March 18, 2009.
March 12th, 2009 08:01
I hope you guys are all correct!! Maybe Will’s S&R stint was a red herring to throw off the the press and in fact a engagement IS coming?!
March 18th – you heard it here first.
March 12th, 2009 08:08
My guess is that the moment the wheels of Chuck and Cam’s plane hits the tarmac at Heathrow,all hell breaks loose!
Now I am off to get a copy of that mag on Ebay before the value goes through the roof!
March 12th, 2009 08:18
One other thought on this…is it possible that information was intentionally leaked? Maybe as a signal to the media to get ready and for merchandisers as well. Strangers things have happened.
March 12th, 2009 08:36
This is driving me nuts. Yes Alsgal my argument maybe wrong but we have been down this path so many times I am loathe to get excited.. I want an announcement… Lisa when do Charles and Cammy get back??
March 12th, 2009 08:41
jj,Charles and Camilla will conclude their visit to Chile on the 17th. Not sure exactly when they return to the UK but they have no engagements scheduled until the 24th.
March 12th, 2009 09:21
Sorry jj — no offence meant and that was not directed at anyone here personally.
And btw Ron of That Blog That Shall Remain Nameless is full of more crap than a Port-a-Potty after a peace march. All these months of saying W&K are over, then the French story breaks and suddenly, he has heard a “whisper” and now gives it 50/50.
Oh puhleeeez. This man is as much in the know as my left cankle.
March 18, 2009.
And Rman, Alsgal’s got an extra bottle of gin in my freezer just for you.
March 12th, 2009 09:28
Alsgal,I was thinking the very same thing in regards to “Ron”. Your left cankle knows more!
March 12th, 2009 10:15
Alsgal
I was just thinking the same thing. I think Ron is trying to save face after all of the negativity he has expressed towards Kate. I’m really hoping that this week/next week or any week in March will be the week!! A summer wedding would be amazing!! I’m still trying not to get too excited!!
March 12th, 2009 10:30
JJ, Lisa — what I’m thinking will likely occur is that when they have the engagement interview the interviewer will ask Kate about charity work and she will discuss Starlight and maybe even one secret charity that she’s been involved with “behind the scenes” over the past few months. I feel pretty certain it won’t be Killing Kittens, so likely between Starlight and Tom’s Skating Party Kate’s royal patron theme will be “Children in Hospitals.”
Look for the theme of the interview to be “It Takes a Gal From a Family Business to Be Prepared to join the BR Family Business” — w/ repect to the Costa Nostra aside.
My left cankle is telling me that Kate will be very demure in a powder blue suit and won’t speak unless asked a question, but William will hold forth about his “unbelievable” experiences training so far, Kate will say something like, “I don’t know how he manages, really” and I’m sure both will manage to get a plug in for Camilla. “She’s been very helpful really. Just sort of showing me the ropes, really.” “She’s really quite marvelous, really.” That sort of thing.
Really.:)
March 12th, 2009 10:43
alsgal 18/03/09,
I hope the engagement is forthcoming to reward you and Rman’s faith and belief in this couple.
According to your psychic work by this time next week images of the very demure Kate in her powder blue suit should be plastered everywhere.
You better massage those cankles and start crusing the Bristish Airways website for discounted tickets for the big royal wedding this summer.
March 12th, 2009 10:51
Hello
I still think that PW’s S and R announcement in September threw one of the biggest spanners the RF have ever seen .
Furthermore I am still of the opinion that PW made that decision unilaterally and surprised everyone from HM down to the head gardener at Highgrove.
The reason he made that decision at that time will probably never be known but perhaps now he does realise exactly the impact that had on everyone
I still cannot see an engagement and marriage going ahead if PW remains in the Services because the RF will ever be conscious of the devastating effect PA’s continued service had on his marriage.
It is all very well saying that PW and KM would cope with service life but she has waited around for many lonely years playing second fiddle to PW and whatever he wanted to do and she does deserve and is entitled to his full attention throughout an engagement and a marriage.
If he has now recognised that and KM accepts that by going ahead her life will change immeasurably from the day the engagement is announced then just the fact of being addressed as “Marm” instead of “Kate” on a daily basis will be a shock as she becomes the third lady in precedence (not sure of Pricess Royal’s status) in the Country and Commonwealth, will be overwhelming and she will need PW at her side more than any other person for a considerable time.
Despite all that seems to be happening and I am as excited as everyone else I still have that little doubt based really on exactly why PW came out as he did in Septemeber remembering it is only six months ago and remembering PW’s previously apparent reluctance to commit.
Perhaps his very slight dalliance with Paris H. was enough to make him and everyone else realise that KM is in fact the best of the bunch.
March 12th, 2009 10:53
Well, seems the “news” is spreading..
http://perezhilton.com/2009-03-12-prince-william-and-kate-to-marry
Going to the chapel,LOL
March 12th, 2009 10:58
Guys please dont take the wedding story seriously. PW will and has always stood by his words that he will marry when he is 28 or 30.
Relax.
March 12th, 2009 11:03
The DM story is still there. The posted link doesn’t work. Try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/awkxos
March 12th, 2009 11:03
I just hope that when the engagement interview happens that all the newspapers who have been so nasty about Kate are banned.
March 12th, 2009 11:19
Without intending to be rude, nasty or whatever, personally I forsee a ’split’ announcement which has long been pending. I have my own reasons leading to being negative while everyone else is excited. If I were to be allowed an opportunity to say those reasons, nobody would believe me. As Im known to be one the naysayer on this sight, whereas Im honestly not. Some of us write on this site to give a picture that KM is as human as you are, she has former school mates, former employees at PP etc. We happen to catch stories in one way or the other. If it was good practice to leak stories, certainly we would unfortunately its against our principles.
March 12th, 2009 11:26
Okay I have a little spare time here.
BRW I’m looking forward that good news.
Alsgal I would love that ice cold drink.
I’m still remaining calm about it but praying at the same time. Ked I’m sure they are looking back at Andrew & Sarah’s marriage and learned a few things from it. Also I’m sure The Duke of York will offer some good advice to his nephew.
March 12th, 2009 11:34
Pretty, let’s not forget William made that statement when he was what, 22? and I believe he was at the Casa Antigua disco in Klosters when he said it so he might have a been a wee bit tipsy after a long day skiing. Also, lots of young men make statements of the “I’m gonna be a millionaire/rock star/Master Pimp by the time I’m 30″ variety when they are younger. True, PW has often kept to his word, but other things not so much. “Mollycoddled in cotton wool” anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
Alsgal can remember at 18 declaring she would be the first one-armed drummer in space, and yet, it wasn’t to be. That honour went to Smitty Hamilton of AC/DC, which was the name of his band in the Washington, DC area until the Australians stole the name and Smitty lost not one, but two appendages in a horrible cow crash.
Alas, I digress.
Ked, Kate has shown she can go to hell and back with very little official support from anyone, so Alsgal is pretty sure a few years on base as a military wife won’t bother her a bit — especially as she has a very supportive family to keep her company. I feel certain Handsome James will be very, very popular with the soldiers who are also into hamster fashion.
Kate will take on a few charities, and will be busy enough decorating Harewood and lunching with Pippa that I doubt she’ll even miss William.
March 12th, 2009 11:39
Pretty, if you don’t think it’s going to happen, and that a split is going to be announced instead, Alsgal for one, certainly respects your opinion.
Yes, even Alsgal is willing to admit it may be that hope is blinding her, but without hope, is life really worth living?
For Alsgal, that answer is no.
March 12th, 2009 14:00
William and Kate make announcement near future but can hold the wedding until summer 2010 after his RAF training is completed? Kate needs time to pick up the perfect wedding gown and it takes forever!
March 12th, 2009 14:39
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I’m sure at this point she wouldn’t be too fussed with what she wears as long as she gets down that aisle. BUT I’m pretty sure whoever the designer is that would design her gown would also work over time to get it ready…. If they have not being doing so already for many months….
March 12th, 2009 15:33
Phoebe thank you for providing that link, I did look for it, however I have proved time and time again at finding any good link to provide this site.
Ked, If what you say is true, and that William has been in London for a couple of weeks, them I am wondering has he had second thoughts about the SAR training? He has come in for some criticism of late, therefore perhaps he’s had a rethink.
I always had the impression that the SAR was an excuse to escape his royal duties and NOT his relationship with Kate.
Alsgal, you make an excellent point about the fact the foreign press have broken royal stories before, the most famous is the relationship between the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
Frankly, I don’t know what to think here. The French stories had a lot of errors in it, then again that doesn’t mean the engagement could be wrong.
As for Kate being in London. She has complained to the PCC, therefore she has every right to be treated as a private person unless she is in the company of William.
I can’t help but feel if there was an engagement coming, then W & K’s lunch date would be in every British tab going as a pre-cursor to that special event. I accept they’re may have deal with the British tabs to keep things quiet for now if there is to be an engagement. It would be in they’re intrest to, afterall an engagement announcement would do wonders for their dwindling circulation figues. But I don’t see why they should keep quiet about the lunch date.
Q is at Cheltenham tomorrow, it will be intresting to see if Kate is there also. I somehow get the feeling that would be a sign that finally the wedding is to come.
Ked, you mentioned the taxi bods between Kings Road & Embankment. Bubbles lives in the Kings Road, and isn’t Harry now a qualified motorcyclist?
March 13th, 2009 05:01
Thanks Steven for the links