Prince William speaks about losing his mother
Prince William has spoken for the first time about the devastating effect of losing his mother as a teenager.
The prince, who was just 15 when Princess Diana died, said: ‘Never being able to say the word “Mummy” again in your life sounds like a small thing. However, for many, including me, it’s now really just a word – hollow and evoking only memories.’ Read full article at the Daily Mail…
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March 13th, 2009 05:52
update
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1161450/A-shod-Zara-Phillips-wins-style-race-Cheltenham-Gwen-Stefanis-stiletto-shoes.html
a love zara philipps dress here
i think every child longing for her mother
March 13th, 2009 07:55
BRW,thanks for posting the video. It’s great to see William getting out and doing these engagements as it is the only way he will become more comfortable with them. I see so much of Diana in him,it amazes me. As time passes and he does more events like this,he will get better at speeches too.
March 13th, 2009 09:40
Yes he’s getting very good at the speech making. It won’t be long before he have his better half along side him at these events.
March 13th, 2009 10:14
Rman,
Don’t you think this would have been the perfect time to introduce KM as his partner and (hopefully) the mother of his children and future Kings.
I do not understand if anything is imminent why this wasn’t the perfect occasion for her to be at his side. If there is any charity which is made for a future Princess of Wales this is it. Even his excellent speech was the perfect introduction but they ignored it and yet again ignored KM>
Her non attendance is the surest indication that nothing is coming out in the immediate future and we are now back to the 4/5 year plan. If she is around and as it stands I would not bet on anything at present.
There weill be many despondent posters about today
March 13th, 2009 10:44
ked,it would not be the right thing to do to have Kate with him at that event. First and foremost,Kate’s presence would overshadow the event and that would be a poor choice of ways to introduce her. Until they are formally engaged,she must stay out of the spotlight. Just like it would be wrong for her to show up at the races today with the queen. And keep in mind that Charles and Camilla are out of the country.
March 13th, 2009 10:48
I agree Lisa it would just send things into freenzy mode before it is necessary. I do think that Charles and Camilla need to be in the country if any announcement is made. I’m sure Charles would like to put the odd comment in here.
I guess we will have to wait and see what plays out in the next couple of weeks. I’ve really tried not to get too excited about this latest report but it’s hard not to do so. If it doesn’t happen next week I guess we go back to waiting for this time next year….. Nothing different to what we were originally hoping for before the French report came out…
March 13th, 2009 10:50
Lisa,
If Autumn can go on a cruise with the Queen 9 months before an engagement then surely KM can accompany PW IF there is an arrangement.
There clearly isn’t one yet!
March 13th, 2009 10:58
Seriously ked, you cannot compare a cruise, which I take it was a private holiday, to appearing at a public event. Did you also forget that Peter Philips is not second in line to the throne? Everything William does is examined under a high powered microscope. That engagement is the LAST Place Kate Middleton needed to be.
March 13th, 2009 11:00
Ked don’t worry, she will start to show up with him to these events. I think they just want to get the engagement out there first before they really start to do that. I don’t think they are really all that happy this info has gotten out before they had a chance to say something. I think Robert Jobson did say that the Palace was upset with him that he wrote about Charles & Camilla’s engagement before they officially announced it. Which I understand but now we are all waiting for them to say something. William & Kate will get married but they won’t wait 4 or 5 more years. This guy will marry her much more sooner. I’m just busy praying for them and wishing them the best. I don’t know if Steven have the video of Wiliam & Kate- A Royal Romance but I have it now and I just didn’t want to post it before he did. But I will post it anyway and I hope that is alright with him. It is a great little doc about this royal couple and it really highlights how strong Kate is and due to that, she can take the blows from the media. This woman is going to be his future Queen.
March 13th, 2009 11:06
Also it’s important to know that William & Kate will do this their own way. They don’t seem to be the kind of couple that plays by the rule book. They are a modern royal couple that is determined to do things their own way and put their own spin on things.
March 13th, 2009 11:11
Great post,Rman! You are very correct about Jobson getting the Palace upset with him because he leaked the news about C/C. This is so much bigger. I think the media knows they better not muck this up or they won’t get squat in the way of an interview or a story from this couple.
March 13th, 2009 11:14
Yes Ked a holiday cruise and an official engagement for PW are completely different. Like we have said many times before, this relationship will either go down the Victoria and Daniel Westling route or the Prince Carl Phillip and Emma Pernald route. It is what it is and time will tell..
March 13th, 2009 11:21
I also see Kate wasn’t at the Cheltenham Fesival today. So interesting.
March 13th, 2009 11:26
Yes here is an article about Zara and the Queen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1161758/Military-Zara-groomed-perfection-Gold-Rush-Queens-big-day.html
March 13th, 2009 11:26
I saw she was not there as well. Honestly,even if she planned to attend this week,that magazine report probably put a stop to that,which is sad if there is not engagement. If Kate is not engaged to William,she is still a private citizen and should be able to attend events she enjoys like the races. I hope this all gets settled soon.
March 13th, 2009 11:42
I hope so too Lisa. Everything points to this year and even in the doc that was made last year, mentioned that 2009 is the year. We just have to wait and see. I’m sure she would have been at the festival if she wasn’t gettng ready for her big day though.
March 13th, 2009 11:51
Intresting all this speculation. I for one didn’t believe it, and yet Ked is right, I am despondent, perhaps its because deep, deep down I wanted it to be true.
I’m sorry Kate wasn’t at Cheltenham. I understand it would have feuelled speculation, but as I understand it, horse racing is something she enjoys.
Hey Ked, come on, you never did explain your posting about that hotel.
March 13th, 2009 12:03
Oh I want it to be true too Hale. I’m trying to turn a blind eye to it but it’s hard. But I know, it’s going to come. She do enjoy it but if William wasn’t there, I don’t think she would be there with the Queen. I think he has one more engagement today and that’s the tour of St Giles Trust.
March 13th, 2009 12:21
First off, the Queen looks sooooo beautiful and so relaxed these days. Angela Kelly (isn’t that her dresser/PA?) deserves a great big shout out from Alsgal for a job well done! Whoo hoo Dear Lady, you are the past mistress of puce!
Second, stylewise Zara has definitely got it going on, too. Alsgal loves that she’s not pencil thin or trying too hard, and yet she almost always looks fan-effing-tastic. Well done!
Third, Alsgal is hoping the reason Kate apparently stayed home (first time in 3 years?)is that she is busy learning how to wave from Lady Susan Hussey, at least if Lady Susan isn’t dead. Perhaps it is her husband who took off to that Great Urn in the Sky, and Alsgal is confused as usual?
Knowing that KM is safely holed up at the Palace prepping for the announcement day might also explain why the Queen is smiling and her eyes are twinkly so merrily.
March 13th, 2009 12:22
This was a very personal event to Prince William. Having Ms. Middleton there would have detracted from that. This was about remembering his mother, not announcing his future wife. Time and place, time and place.
The announcement will be a very formal thing with a man in a fancy uniform reading a statement on the steps of Buckingham Palace. Then the happy couple comes out in business dress and poses for pictures. It is not going to be announced casually as part of another event.
I don’t think it will be this year. Too late to announce then get things rolling. They can’t reserve the church, get the dress, find the bridesmaids, etc. until the announcement is made. If they started those things before the engagement, it would leak. Which would not be good.
March 13th, 2009 12:31
Lisa, jj,
I’m sorry that I did not make the point clearer.
Yes I agree a holiday cruise with your Sovereign and your friend’s grandmother and with the World looking on is not the same as a Charity Event with the HM’s grandson, who happens to be a King in waiting.
I was making the point of regognition.
Autumn, at that time was in a 2/3 year friendship with a favoured grandson and by that ’small’ gesture she bacame a ‘grand daughter in law’ in waiting and PP had obviously made that point to his grandmother, The Queen.
KM is in a 6/7 year friendship with another grandson who likewise is favoured as an heir in waiting but KM still waits for ‘that’ gesture which recognises her position so that she is still only a potential ‘grand daughter in waiting,waiting,waiting’.
Many many other royal protocols have been breached by many members of the RF and PW /PH in particular over the past years so all it needs is one small gesture or phrase so KM becomes acceptable t the World.
I recocnise her presence at several important events over the years but THAT acceptance has never been offered unequivocally which leaves KM in a very exposed and unenviable situation.
Perhaps it is now too late to make the gesture , perhaps it is too late to make KM publically part of the family.
Why? Because PW will not make an indication of intent and hasn’t made it clear to his grandmother, The Queen.
So that leads to another
Why!
Why not ?
March 13th, 2009 12:33
Remember months ago Mandrake quoted a dressmaker a friend of Philip Tracey? the miliner, to send sketches over to BP, but she says they never returned them. The insiders know about the wedding long before the public does in most cases and planning usually has already begun before the announcement is made public. I think the press has had several leaks about a wedding, of course nothing comes of it but maybe one day…
Ked, I agree w/Hale what up w/the pub question weeks ago?
March 13th, 2009 12:33
Rosetta, seem to recall in the past they have put an announcement on display out in the courtyard of BP. Anyone else remember?
For perspective:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,924555-2,00.html
March 13th, 2009 12:35
rosettaresearch, I agree things take time but I get the feeling that things has been rolling for some time and it’s being done very carefully. It’s not too late to make that announcement.
I just have my fingers crossed and hoping this is another bright year. Not because a french magazine say’s so but because I have always hoped that 2009 would be a great year for them.
March 13th, 2009 12:37
Hale,
You obviously didn’t read a recent post when I slipped it in surreptitiously.
It must have been well hidden to escape your eagle eye.
???
March 13th, 2009 12:40
Alsgal, they usually do that but I don’t know how it’s going to work for William & Kate. It may be an announcement by CH. I’m just waiting.
March 13th, 2009 12:40
Rman,
You are absolutely correct.
2009 was to have been that year but it was delayed by a Sept bomb.
Again, why?
March 13th, 2009 12:43
Forgot to add:
So, seeing from the article dated 1 December 1980 and knowing from Diana’s own words that Charles didn’t propose until two months later (Feb. 6, 1981) that at least people’s instincts were right, even if it hadn’t formally occurred.
And of course, we know now that the blonde-on-the-train was likely Camilla, and that the Palace denial/ press intervention probably occurred so as not to upset Diana whilst protecting Charles’ arse.
No telling what is going on behind closed doors at the moment.
March 13th, 2009 12:54
BP always place a card on the railings at the Palace when an engagement or other important event is taking place. So watch out for a Courtier walking across the quadrangle with a card in his hand. Please let it be soon.
March 13th, 2009 12:57
Ked, something tells me that Kate was the driving force behind that “Sept bomb” and now it’s lets kill two birds with one stone. This girl can handle it. She knows how important the training is to William and she has been there to support him through it all. Now she won’t be doing as his girlfriend but as his wife. I’m hoping here Ked but I just know that they won’t drag this on for a long period of time. I’m keeping the faith.
March 13th, 2009 13:02
It’s important to acknowledge that William is just a lucky guy.
March 13th, 2009 13:06
Why would KM not be at C-ham? Like Alsgal said, she’s been there the past 3yrs. Since we have a recent pic of KM, she does not appear to be w/child so she does not need to hide. KM is starting to remind me of an abused dog, that lost it “spirit.” She attends those horse races more faithfully than PW has and is one of the few that go to Wimbledon as Diana did. So was she dragged out the night before PW heartfelt speech for PR, but not welcomed to attend C-ham? What the heck is going on? I am sorry the PW finds the word “mummy” to be vacant, but what about the word “girlfriend?” Maybe I am a cruel person, but I feel like his speech was nothing more than a PR ploy and I say this because if he was so heartfelt and caring about his mother, he would not drag his “decoy” out when his press is bad, nor would he make her walk/run to catch up w/him as it looks like he is barking something at her. What vile sin has KM commited on the RF that she would spend the best years of her life in purgatory ?
March 13th, 2009 13:10
alsgal et al,
Traditionally the card is allowed to fall to the floor outside palace ground.
Rman,
She wasn’t and was surprised when informed.
gracie, see Hale post above.
March 13th, 2009 13:13
gracie,
Obviously your correct but have more guts than I to say it exactly how it appears.
March 13th, 2009 13:19
IMO this whole marriage stuff was started again to take the heat of C&C eco trip, that up until recently was not going over well w/the press due to the economy. I could be wrong, but it would not surprise me if that were the case. KM did not look like a girl getting ready for her engagement to be announced in those pics leaving w/PW. The smile that we have come to love about KM, seems to have been wiped off her face now she left looking like the “Mona Lisa.”
March 13th, 2009 13:22
Rman,
When I was up at univ I went to a series of lectures by an odd philosophy guy , who always wore sandles summer and winter.
These included two 50+ minutes on “why, when and when not to ask”.
Of the hundreds of lectures attented and ignored I have never forgotten that one.
Ask “why” and analyse. When there isn’t an answer there’s an untruth or an informal copout!
Strange, strong but so often true.
March 13th, 2009 13:24
Let me pose a hypothetical question: if PW were to announce officially that he and KM are not in a relationship and had no plans to marry, what would be the response?
March 13th, 2009 13:30
Ked I do not believe for one second that she was surprised. I believe he shares this info with her. We shall see what’s going to happen. Ys she usually go to the races but something tells me that is was for a good reason and she will make her appearence soon enough. But I don’t believe anything will happen until Charles & Camilla gets back. So wait we shall do.
Gracie, I believe William was truly hurt when his mothe died and found it hard to talk about it. Now he seem to be growing up and made that speech from his heart. He can relate to other people who have lost a parent and it’s just amazing that he’s starting to speak up about it. Diana would be proud.
March 13th, 2009 13:34
Guys, If kate was not important in William’s life, she wont be asked not to go to C-ham. She didnt go because she discussed the matter with william and they agree both it was better for them both. So I conclude that their relation ship is very strong to discuss every single thing between them and to decide how to behave. For the last lunch, it’s quite simple, when it’s a private matter (and their life is one private matter) william just want it not to be in front of the newspapers. And a very important thing, the photographs who follow him when he complete his duties are official photographs, the ones who wait for him outside a restaurant are not, they are paparazzi and these kind of photographs, he refuses to let them take their photos of him and kate. He hates these people. It’s just that photographs and paparazzi do a very different job. The paparazzi hunts and remind him what his mother has to endure at the end of her life. So no forgiving from him and no way to play their game. Quite simple !
March 13th, 2009 13:36
pw’s commemoration of diana would have been the perfect setting to have KM by his side, it would have been added tremendously to the emotional symbolism of the ceremony for PW to signal KM’s importance to him….
alas, another opportunity ignored….
really….when deciding among theories, a good way is to look at the evidence….what is happening and which theory does this best support?
we don’t see PW doing anything to signal KM’s importance to him or her place in the RF…nor is she being gradually introduced to some of the many duties she’d have to assume…..
March 13th, 2009 13:37
Ugh I almost wish the French magazine hadn’t said anything. It’s just stirred up a hornets nest… I’m back to the 2010 date, I don’t want to get disappointed… I don’t think she deserves to live in purgatory but you know what I have also said many times both of them have a choice. Any time Kate isn’t happy with the situation she can break up with William same goes for him. Anytime he is unhappy with what is going on he can walk. I’m sure he has seen that his brother has had a lot of offers since he has become single and if that was what William wanted I am sure he would have done it. So I choose to believe that they are both happy with the status quo……
March 13th, 2009 13:41
Gracie
Lest we not forget that shortly before Harry and Chlsea broke up there were pictures of them grinning from ear to ear in the Caribbean and most people thought they didn’t have a care in the world much less thinking about breaking up. A photograph captured while walking out of a restaurant does not tell the complete story of any relationship…….
March 13th, 2009 13:45
both of them could walk at any time, but…it’s easier for PH than for PW…..
PW has his reputation to protect (as likely future king….) and he’s got to take measures to ensure he’s not seen as a cad….abandoning his loyal and steadfast gf of 6+ yrs…..
that’s why i’m so cynical about this….by keeping KM relegated to a very narrowly circumscribed space,PW ensures that there is no public endorsement of KM’s status as anything more than “good friend”
he can still date her, hang out with her, etc…but there is no move to draw her more closely into the RF’s fold, to formally enhance her status as “Girlfriend” and “soon to be bethrothed”
keeping KM on the margins like this protects PW somewhat….people do realize KM is making the choice to stay under these conditions and thereby assume blame
and this makes it easier for the rel’p to just fade out….without suddenly jarring the public’s sensibilities
March 13th, 2009 13:49
Phoebe, that would end all specualtion of an engagement and start up rumors of what happened. God forbid that would happen.
All I can say it could happen this year or next year. I wish them the best whatever happens. Listen guys I know all of us on here hate the speculations and just wish it would all happen already but we must remain patient about this.
Last night I sat at my desk and read the reports. I said to myself “my God all of this is just speculations” which it is but I have a gut feeling that something is going to happen.
March 13th, 2009 13:57
JJ, whenever it gets here, I’ll be happy. We shall see what’s going to happen. I just believe that she will make an appearence with him soon.
March 13th, 2009 14:12
jj,
There was absolutely nothing new in that so called ‘French’ article.
Almost every item discussed had been posted and talked about on here over the previous 6-8 months.
I remember seeing a similar article when I was in Helsinki early in 2008 but only had a cursory translation of what was a semi official document and that is why I did say that the French article may have been translated from part of an outdated diplomatic briefing made as advance notice to foreign diplomats.
At that time I did believe that an announcement would be made in early 2009 and at the time I concurred with that and that they would be married in May or July 2009. Again Sept 2008 put paid to that.
anastasia, I made similar comments to your a few months ago and was clearly sent to the cleaners.
March 13th, 2009 14:21
Rman,
Look I have never said we will not see then out at events together or with other friends but that does not lead to an expectation of a marriage in the near future.
I am still of the opinion that whatever has happened is a direct result of PW remaining in the Services and that there will be no progress until PW has completed his services sooner or later, I think its paramount to their relationship.
PW has often chosen to bond with colleagues (which in a military situation is corret and proper), over progressing or concreting his relationship with KM . This happened time after time in Dorset and did lead to ‘difficult’ reports and I really believe that KM wants an end to that and fpr PW to ‘court and romance’ her.
Can any of you gals blame her?
March 13th, 2009 14:27
ked,
yes, i am largely paraphrasing
and i’ve been sent to the cleaners as well
does anyone remember the parable about the Azande, and their belief in the oracle?
no matter what happened, it was reinterpreted to support their unwavering belief in the oracle’s existence…..
March 13th, 2009 15:01
The fact she wasn’t at the races today speaks volume. Kate never appears in public anymore unless she is with Wililiam, someone is protecting her . I believe they are very much engaged and a marriage in the summer is going to happen. Those two dance to the beat of their own drum.
That is probably wishful thinking on my part ,but I am going with my instinct.
March 13th, 2009 15:19
Guys, Guys, do you not see whats happening?
That lunch date picture of W & K and the story of Harry’s supposed meeting with Chelsy.
Plus the DM publishing a ridiculous article by a French magazine which got essential facts all wrong and which referred to a possible engagement. Imagine, the DM which is viewed as the main royal newspaper, actually saying this magazine is very in on royal news, more so than us. Duh!
The rue has worked, the St.Js team has done its job. The pressure on William and his approach to Royal Duties is now OFF, and what a lovely way to crown it, by mentioning his mother in a speech.
Sorry, truly I am, I know its an awful thing to say, but it is how I view it. Harry & Kate, both decoys. Its worked, you are all speculating about a possible engagement, and no one is talking about Williams lack of royal engagements and his hiding in the RAF.
I wish to God, he would just step down. All this tip toeing will come to no good. No good for the monarchy that is. I pray the Queen does NOT repeat the mistake her grandfather
George V, did. When the DoWindsors relationship with Wallis Simpson was left hanging.
Williams reluctance to fufil his obligations should be resolved.
Phoebe, if W & K split, the speculation would be why, and I have no doubt the courtiers will naturally do their best to shield William. After a while, the focus will be on what new girl William is likely to date.
Gracie, as usual I find myself agreeing with your post at no.32.
Ked…please, please do not toy with me. My hair is distinctly turning grey. Go on, give us a clue.
March 13th, 2009 15:28
vogue William is protecting her and if you watch that video that I just provided, you will understand that William really helped getting her out that mess of being harassed by the paps because it wasn’t good for her and he might have been afraid that she would say that she was fed up with all of that and ended everything. Watch the video.
Ked, you may think I’m crazy or just wishing too much but something is telling me that they are engaged and they will say something when they are ready.
March 13th, 2009 15:32
Well
Whatever the case may be where she is a decoy, or there was an engagement which had been called off, whether Wulliam is just in this because of his reputation or whatever she is happy to do so & so is he so it’s their problem not ours…..
March 13th, 2009 15:33
Hale watch the video. You are right, the team at St. James’s Palace is hard at work with William and I think they are planning some stuff for Harry. They are not throwing Kate to the wolves but will put her the place where she belongs, by William’s side.
March 13th, 2009 15:33
I agree with u Rman. I think he is protecting her.
March 13th, 2009 15:35
I think really should stop calling her a “decoy” it’s wrong and we should just wait and see what’s going to happen.
March 13th, 2009 15:39
Guys they are doing this their way, watch you will see. That’s right vogue he is protecting her. JJ I’m with you, I wish that story would have never come out because it’s causing some to think too much. Guys it’s going to happen, just wait.
March 13th, 2009 16:04
Perhaps my wording was harsh and after picking up my child from school, I have relaxed and popped a Vicodin. Kidding of course! I realize that I have never known what it is like to loose a parent so young and have then have your family accused of playing a part in it to boot. So I got carried away. I can’t even talk about my mother dying one day and I am an adult. I am still unhappy w/KM not being at C-ham when she seemed to enjoy it. I guess what I see is KM giving up activities that she liked and not really seeing her getting anything in return. Of course privately I don’t know, maybe she’s wearing a honker ring around PP whiles she packing birthday candles or something. I don’t want to know everything that goes on in her life, but I can’t help but feel sorry for her as she is not formally engaged yet and something has taken the part that I believe is most endearing about her- vitality and brilliant smile away. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, but I don’t see why those things should disappear because she is w/PW. Nor can I understand a monarchy that would think that is what one must give up to be apart of it. I just don’t get it, maybe they fear another Diana. Diana’s best qualities are what are needed now and Camilla as hard as PC tries will not cut it and as lovely as Sophie is she does not have the personality to fit the bill.
March 13th, 2009 16:19
Sorry for long post. Look, what is PW hiding that he can’t let go of KM and must keep her on the sidelines? I have heard other bloggers say that KM deals w/what he gives her to stay in “royal circle,” but I don’t see the benefits of that if she is not out enjoying social cache of being on/off girlfriend of PW. Perhaps KM just gets protection from the press and that’s enough for her until PW throws her a bone?
JJ, you are right looks are decieving. I still don’t think CD and PH are done though. To much passion, it will take a while to fizzle out IMO. Kinda like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, they sizzle look like they can eat each other up, but you know it’s gonna end one day cause there’s to much heat for one couple to have.
March 13th, 2009 16:23
I am all for Phoebe line of questioning…
What happened when Charles broke up with his many girlfriends? I certainly wasn’t around, but I believe there were quite a few, and some must have lasted longer than others…
I really can’t understand why this relationship — PW and KM — has been so mishandled.
March 13th, 2009 16:27
Rman, I hope you are right, truly.
Alsgal my beloved, I have this bad feeling that the only thing that is going to happen on 18.03.09 is that asprin sales will rocket as a result of St Patricks night.
Gracie Once again, I am with you. Sadly. I would so prefer to believe Rman, the evergreen romantic.
March 13th, 2009 16:36
Rman, would an official announcement really end all speculation? What would happen the first time they were spotted out together afterwards?
Gracie, I agree with your assessment 100%. Sadly, also. Sometimes first impressions are the true ones.
March 13th, 2009 16:37
Gracie and Sojourner I’m inclined to agree with you. Will and Kate’s relationship has been handled very badly; I’ll never understand why William didn’t stand up for Kate for when the press were destroying her with all the ‘waitie katie’ jibes. Protocols should have tossed aside and Will should have defended his girlfriend.
March 13th, 2009 17:07
Gracie that’s okay, I like reading your long posts. Guys, William would not keep being this girls boyfriend and tossing her to aside at the same time. Personally I don’t believe William is like that. First of all I think we all need to calm down and be patient.
I know we are all tierd of this but we must keep calm. William & Kate are doing this their own way and I do believe that Kate who is a racing fan, would have been at the festival today if she wasn’t getting prepared for something. The Queen hasn’t been at the festival for a couple of years so today was her day to show some support for her horse. William & Kate are up to something and hopefull we will know soon. The media will compare William’s wife to Diana, if it wasn’t Kate they would have done it to the other girl. Like that video said, Kate has learned a few things from Diana and I’m sure William has told her a lot about his mother. This new team I believe is working with William & Kate and they will reintroduce her to the public soon.
Gracie, I have a strong feeling that she got that “honker” ring on and she will be soon show it off. Their seem to be a plan and how they will do it. William is not going to do this girl wrong, that’s not his style. I think all of us on here know that, even if we don’t know him personally.
Phoebe the speculations of an engagement will end but new ones will start. Who will design her dress? Who will be invited and not invited? where will they stay until their house is ready? etc. To be frank with you, those are the conversations I want to et into. I can’t wait for this engagement speculation to end. That’s the first mountain we need to climb over first.
March 13th, 2009 17:12
Please excuse my misspellings. Did you guys see the video? I think Steven will put it up.
March 13th, 2009 17:36
Some pictures of William at the St. Giles Trust.
http://tinyurl.com/b9skth
March 13th, 2009 17:41
Rman,
And who was the only man without a partner?
Ask the question ?
Why?
March 13th, 2009 17:46
Ked
I’m pretty sure William wasn’t the only man who didn’t have his partner with him at the event…..
March 13th, 2009 17:53
Which event are we talking about?
March 13th, 2009 17:58
William looks pretty happy.
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March 13th, 2009 17:59
I know some of you must be thinking, WWAD? Well, I’ll tell ya what Alsgal would do — Alsgal would gather all the British editors and make them print (say, on March 18th) on their front pages in big bold letters:
IT’S OFFICIAL: William and Kate’s engagement will be announced today.
And force BP/CH to deny this.
So, the scenarios are:
a) William and Kate are committed, he may or may not have formally proposed with a ring, but both are making plans for their future together and she is getting advice and protection w/ the press.
What backs the theory up: Kate seems to be holed up in her purdah and is not really getting out and about or pursuing anything but a default career or living life as most all of her contemporaries are. It almost like she’s being really good because she knows everyone is watching. And there can only be one motive for doing that.
Also, do we see anymore how long must Kate wait articles? Seems like they’ve decided to leave the biggest media story alone for now. Odd. But why? Could only be either a threat or an agreement that would make the British press behave this well.
b)William thinks she’s the One but he’s afraid to make a mistake and Just Needs More Time. While running off with a stripper after two weeks might often end up in divorce, statistics show a couple are actually more likely to divorce if the live together first and there’s no correlation between longevity in courtship = longevity in marriage.
So, what’s up with all the waiting? Many would argue that if he can’t make his mind up he’s got underlying doubts. Few would believe Kate wouldn’t say yes in a minute as she has much more to gain powerwise, statuswise, and materially than he does. Oh, but her privacy — that’s a lot to give up.
If her privacy was THAT important to her, it’s unlikely she would have dated the son of the most famous woman on the planet to begin with, so not buying that one.
c) William is a complete cad or messed up guy who takes advantage of Kate’s loyalty or goldigging status- seeking to get “some” but he has no intention of marrying her. Maybe only he knows this.
Theory to back this up: Loyal Kate could have sold out for a few million but didn’t — either she is extremely moral or maybe she hopes for a bigger payoff later — marriage to one of PW’s friends or William himself.
Many tend to favor the golddigger argument because of her mother and sister’s tendency to aspire up. Could be that Kate is simply a nice girl with honest motives and low self-esteem (as in, otherwise why would she put up with all this crap?)
d) They’ve broken up, and are remaining very good friends in that odd, sometimes-I-still-get- favors-when-I-need-them-Charles-and-Camilla-sort-of-way.
Which could mean Kate is still hoping PW will keep popping around to see her (as Camilla did.)
Theory: Unlikely, as Birkhall and staying at the ex-GF’s parents house on her birthday wouldn’t make any sense this early in the we’re-only-friends stage.
e) March 18, 2009
March 13th, 2009 18:02
Hello,
Remember the CH plan to trash KM and raise PW’s popularity.
Think about it and see that as of about now it’s come to pass.
PW everywhere action man. KM recluse, nowhere.
Tell me it wasn’t planned!
Tell me it hasn’t happened.
Don’t tell me he wouldn’t do it; ask the guys who were around when he and PH were kids. Who did what and blamed who? ho brought it to their attention D.
You heard or saw the TV show.
March 13th, 2009 18:06
PW is far more comfortable with animals than people that’s for sure. He should do more animal charities. Nothing wrong w/that as I have several pets of my own. I just hope he looks at KM as lovingly as he does those horses that he makes “squishy” faces to. Personally, I think PW needs to go spend time w/PC best bud the Dali Lama in Tibet to awaken his spirit and get a grip on what’s important in life. Is it just me or does the Dali Lama just look like you could just give him a big hug and he’s always smiling?
March 13th, 2009 18:07
William looks pretty happy.
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Just beaming. Ked, don’t worry he will have his longtime partner with him soon. He wasn’t the only one without one Ked. Are you talking about that gala?
March 13th, 2009 18:09
Ked, I am assuming that “ho” was a mispelling? If not it sounds like you have been watching to much “MTV Cribs!”
March 13th, 2009 18:11
Rmna,
Now find me four when he has smiled like that at or with KM?
March 13th, 2009 18:12
Alsgal is so darn long-winded I missed Ked’s post.
Interesting and indeed, why?
If PW doesn’t want to encorage speculation, why were they together at Boodles Ball last summer after they were reunited but not at St. Giles?
While I wouldn’t think William would take Kate to the Diana charity thing, I certainly would have thought Kate attending the van Straubenzee charity would have made a lot of sense, as Tom is Kate’s official walker and they’re friends anyway.
TIMELINE:
often seen together
April 2007 breakup
seen together at Troop Ball (private)
seen together at Diana Concert (coyly)
parties
Boodles
Wings
Garter
Kate at two Royal weddings, albeit solo
Mustique vacay w/ PW and Midds family
wedding in Austria
SAR announcement
Skategate
Kate and William not seen together
Kate only seen on cell whilst driving
Kate NOT at Motorbike Charity Sendoff Party
W&K at Whiskey Misty in Dec.
Coming back from Balmoral together
William’s car at Kate’s parents b-day
Lunch in Chelsea
Kate not at C’ham first time after 3 years
March 13th, 2009 18:13
I think the paps was asking him about the engagement, he has a big smile on his face. I’m telling you guys, something is coming. He’s just in a happy place.
March 13th, 2009 18:15
Alsgal, do I get to pick one? Lets see, I pick first question, answer “B.” My brother married a stripper and ended up w/alot more than child support and divorce if you get my drift? It’s the gift that keeps on giving!!
March 13th, 2009 18:23
I was really hoping that beard he grew, was going to contribute in some way to his scalp rejuvenation therapy. I guess no one dares to hand him “Hair Club For Men” pamplet?
March 13th, 2009 18:24
I’m sorry, to many Vicodin w/my martini’s!
March 13th, 2009 18:25
His teeth are pretty yellow he may need to get some whitening done….It’s rare to see William smile period…. Usually he looks miserable in photographs.
Ked talking of photographs like that when he has smiled with KM
Rman published one the other day when they were at a ski resort. There was a photograph on his birthday when he was for sure smiling just like that and the infamous picture of them in the taxi looking into each others eyes. That’s three but give me a couple of minutes and I am sure I could think of a fourth!
March 13th, 2009 18:25
I like your timeline Alsgal. Maybe we should add a few: humiliating pictures and reports surface about Middleton family members (before SAR announcement); stolen camera caper (after Mustique vacation); PM and the incident with the two yorkies at the Issa fasion show (pre-Skategate).
Personnally, I think there is more here than meets the eye.
March 13th, 2009 18:31
Ked-
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March 13th, 2009 18:34
Gracie, Alsgal feels for ya, hon and lemme tell you all, stripping is dangerous in more ways than one.
Alsgal puchased a stripper pole last August and wanted to learn some moves in order to, let’s say, “relight the romance” in her relationship with Big Al. After studying the video tape and purchasing the online lingerie packet (”Lucious Leopardess” was the theme I chose) Alsgal called in Big Al, dimmed the lights and viola –
wouldn’t you know after the fifth go round darn if the brakes on my mobility scooter seized up and Alsgal went plowing into the wall like an East German Communist.
Stay away from strippers, kids — it’s just plain dangerous.
March 13th, 2009 19:07
I just like those pictures.
My darling Alsgal, we just have to wait and see what happens. William looks very happy and I really think the press was asking him about the engagement. So I’m hoping something will come.
I also hope to see our beautiful Kate soon.
March 13th, 2009 19:20
Alsgal, Your ‘mobility scooter seized up and went plowing into the wall lika an East German Communist.’
Rman, I’m confused, are you talking about that video about W & K’s relationship? If so is it on You Tube yet?
March 13th, 2009 19:43
No Hale, here is the video called William & Kate-A Royal Romance. I think Steven will put it up on the site later but if not here it is.
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/video-a-royal-romance/
1-5 video. It’s very insightful.
You may need to download Real Player.
** BRW – edited link **
March 13th, 2009 19:44
I am saying it again — it would not have been appropriate for Ms. Middleton to have been at the charity event where Prince William spoke about his mother. The impact of him speaking of understanding what it is like to lose one’s mother at a young age, would have been completely lost in the speculation about Ms. Middleton being there. It was about the charity and the other kids there — it was not supposed to be about Ms. Middlteon.
As for what happened when Prince Charles broke up with his girlfriend’s the paps weren’t as bad back then. They were bad, but not as bad. Plus, you didn’t have the internet, blogs, twitter and everything else. If someone spotted something or had a story to tell, it had to wait until it was printed in a paper or a magazine. Totally different level of coverage due to that one simple constraint.
March 13th, 2009 19:48
Rman,
You beat me to it! I was saving these for later today but you’ve let the cat out of the bag! You’re too good at sniffing out Royal tidbits!
Here’s a link to William & Kate – A Royal Romance
http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/video-a-royal-romance/
March 13th, 2009 20:02
Sorry Steven, I was trying to prove my point so I posted it. I’m glad you put it on BRW now everybody can see it.
March 13th, 2009 20:09
Haha.. That’s OK!
You got me off my butt. Only took me a year to post it…
March 13th, 2009 20:58
Interesting video. And interesting the talking heads that they chose to interview. What rehab did they get that Victoria Hervey out of?
March 13th, 2009 22:09
that is what that group sounds like…Victoria knows of what she speaks. Kate is not confident when it comes to William, no wonder, he hides her like a bad rash!
March 13th, 2009 22:50
Oh I think she is very confident but simply put young girls in their place. That’s what she is suppose to do. I’m sure William is the same way about her. Kate knows that young girls is crazy about William, it’s been that way for a long time but it seems like when those young girls cross the line, Kate set things straight.
March 14th, 2009 00:07
I really can’t say what is going on between PW and KM. I can not explain KM’s not being photographed out and about, that there is no sign of an engagement between them. However, it seems that they have contact, other than that I have absolutely no understanding about their situation or what they are doing with their relationship.
The romance video is really just a collage of paparazzi photos, no insight really. It is all a mystery to me.
March 15th, 2009 10:58
I would hope William sets them straight, not Kate. If she does it is out of insecurity. If William did it would be out of respect, something he sadly lacks for Kate.
March 15th, 2009 11:19
They have a private relationship and I’m sure they talk to each other and see each other as much as they can.They aren’t making this seven year effort for nothing. I think it’s important to not make things sound like their relationship is filled with nothing but doom. We already have sites that worship a spilt, please lets not make this wonderful site the same.
March 15th, 2009 13:54
hmm, worship a split?
I think Girlfriend made a good point. William should do this out of respect for her. It is only right. Kate should not be so agressive in fending people off of Willia, he should be doing that not her. It looks pathetic when a woman does that.
March 15th, 2009 14:14
Yeah that’s right, there are sties would just love to see them split.
waydownsouth, the only reason I said that is because Kate goes through a lot by being with William. The media often gives her a hard time, some bloggers trashes her and her family, the paps like to follow her everywhere she goes and
sometimes she is hounded by them. None of it is easy for her and there’s no much she can do about it. Kate Middleton is going through the fire because of love so she would be crazy to let some other woman move into her territory. I believe if Diana would have protected her territory long ago, her marriage wouldn’t have gone down the drain.
March 15th, 2009 19:42
i agree about Diana, if she were older he could have put Camilla in her place. But that would not have changed her husband,
I don’t think Kate should be like that simply because if i were in her position i would be friendly to the people who came to the table to talk to William.
Her problem is William, not the woman she is being rude to/.
These people may one day be her subjects, he must learnt to be nice to all people.
March 15th, 2009 19:50
Alsgal, the way you presented those 5 theories and the evidence supporting them is excellent…..
and that other post, just hilarious