The Daily Mail’s Katie Nicholl reckons that Kate Middleton and Prince William will be spending Easter together at exclusive Swiss ski resort Klosters.
Prince William doesn’t seem too concerned with tightening his belt – he has just booked a romantic £40,000 Alpine getaway with his girlfriend Kate Middleton.
He is whisking her off to Klosters, the exclusive Swiss ski resort where the Royals normally spend their Easter, but this year – for a change – his father isn’t coming along. Villas have been booked for the week of April 5 until Easter Sunday.
‘His father has said he is not going skiing this year, so William has decided to do his own thing with a few of his closest friends. The friends will all be paying their share – although William will be treating Kate.
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All the world suffer from poverty and this is what they do?
Who knows they may choose a low key vacation this year. But if you have the money to go to this ski resort, go do your thing.
Unfortunately, the poor will always be with us, but providing people live within their means I don’t have a problem with expensive vacations.
If you have the money then you should spend it otherwise the recession will continue and more people will get laid off. We can’t pretend that there are not haves and have nots there are. William should be able to live his life. I think that falling out of clubs drunk every night is not the best way to do it but if he wants to go on vacation a couple of times a year then go.. Just my opinion..
I agree. It’s nice to see them do things together anyway.
We really haven’t seen Charles dance since he was married to Diana but here is a video of him dancing now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7944913.stm
He still got it, lol.
I just want Charles and Camilla back in the UK so an announcement can be made if that is the plan.
How funny would it be if this ski story was planted to send all the paps to Klosters and then they announce the engagement in London? Talk about the mother of all red herrings! LMAO!
From the sublime to the ridiculous!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1162044/Lord-Freddie-Windsor-WILL-marry–8216-topless-8217-film-star.html
Funny…talk about being the black sheep of the family!
Well I’m sure she is a nice young woman and if Freddie loves her and wants to marry her, then he should.
This is a perfectly acceptable vacation. Everyone is payng their share. If no one went skiiing because it would look “wrong” the folks who work at the ski resort would be out of jobs. Which would help no one.
I agree,Rman. I just find the contrast amusing. The royals are a bit stuffy at times. I have always felt that William and Kate were discouraged from showing any PDA, which I find silly. While I am not suggesting he put his hand in her top in public,what would it hurt if they held hands or showed a little affection?
Hello! It was one very optimistic sight – HRH Prince Charles dancing. There is crisis everywhere, G20 PMs seem worried and I was delighted to see that somebody in this world stays positive in spite of all the problems around. It’s not like he doesn’t care. I just would love to see his son PW in such a high spirits while having a trip to any foreign country, for example. I think it’d be just right for everyone to look at HRH PW’s person as an important part of the country, its face and not only a bachelor, bf, groom. That doesn’t mean he does/will not play those social roles. But sometimes it’s getting ridiculous to speak about this young gentleman as if his only purpose now is to date, propose and marry (while he is so young actually).
On berkshirebewitche.blogspot.com under the comments section “Dutch Royal Snowed in at Lech,” on Feb.19,2009, a blogger says that Harry was at Lech during this time and brought his confidante. I got the impression that although the story was titled w/Dutch, it sounded as though PW and KM were on holiday during this time w/PH. Take a look for yourself and see how you interpret it.
berskshirebewitched.blogspot.com
Isn’t Berkshirebewitched a satire site? That’s the impression I got from it.
Britt, yeah I guess you could say it’s satire but they are very pro-Kate and William. I am talking about the comments for each story, they are more interesting than the story at times and the info can be telling if you chose to believe it. I just thought it odd that the story is about Dutch royals and the comments are about PH being in Klosters/Lech w/new girl and it has nothing do w/original story. Some bloggers were questioning if PW leaving the bar yesterday where new photos or not and why only one photog.
Excuse me for being a little off topic, but hoping that B, Will, and maybe even Claudius still watch this site, I confess that I enjoyed their posts and foster my humble hope to see their comments again. Gracie – thank you for the link, but I agree with Britt, that blog sounds as a satire and is too informal.
Personally I think Sophie Winkleman needs her head examined, not that other part of her person which Freddie was so intent at exploring. Fancy, walking barefooted in the streets of London.
Lisa it seems like they like to keep their affection for each other alittle on the downlow. But I get the feeling that’s all different in private.
I would hope they are more affectionate in private,lol…Just to add,if there is any truth to the french mag article,this week could be interesting as most royal,including the queen the DoE,Charles and Camilla have a very light schedule with few engagements.That editor did tell the DM they stood by their article 100% so I do think there is some hope.I believe C/C return tomorrow.
I actually feel for PW. Where I believe that KM has real feelings for him and I hope that for his sake a marriage with her will last, I still can’t help but wonder if she would have given him a second glance had he been anyone else but the prince. Of course this is a problem that all of the royals or anyone famous for that matter face. As for KM marrying into the family I pray that she prepares herself for what becoming a Princess demands. I hope that she can balance everything and still be able to keep a firm sense of herself.
Hale, I thought the same thing when I looked at Sophie and Freddie in photo. Who walks around like that and her feet were dirty. I don’t think his parents care who he marries as I think they are swingers, IMO and Freddie might have the same type of view on his relationships. It blows my mind how much crap KM recieved for the Disco compared to Winklebarefoot!
Gracie, I agree. That photo of Sophie and Freddie is trashy with a capital T. Sophie is only getting off lightly as no-one cares too much about Freddie.
The comments at the Mail regarding the skiing holiday are not very friendly at all.
If the story is true, I would say great for PW that he can afford such a lavish holiday but PR wise this will pretty much undo the good I-miss-Mummy PR of last week. Why? Well, it’s not about whether or not he can pay for it, it’s more about wisely avoiding the appearance of any lavishness during this time, so as not to disillusion the hoi polloi and destroy their fanstasies that One is really Just An Average Guy — because spending mucho buckaroos on a vacation of this sort is more than three beads short of an all-you-can eat Sandals vacay and PW surely must know this.
Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.:)
PR flunkeys at CH — where the heck are you? Was the Missing Mummy just another pre-emptive CYA charity appearance, to buy some time so the boy would be left alone for a quick run on the slopes with his GF and drinking posse?
If Alsgal was a British taxpayer, and knew my tax dollars were going to pay for several members of the Royal Protection service to go skiing whilst I thought my Prince was supposed to be training heavily in SAR, I’d probably be somewhat piste off.
Oh, no, alsgal, this too is charity work: The GWSSAAH Trust — Give Working Security Stiffs An Alpine Holiday. 8-D
Jocking aside, the whole scenario seems unfortunate. It looks particularly awful for KM, who should know better. I can’t help thinking it will turn out to be untrue.
alsgal,I don’t think those comments represent the masses. Many of them are internet posters who are a little more then a little obsessed with bashing everything Kate and William do. They would bash them if they were seen lunching at Mc Donalds.
As I said before, I don’t think William and Kate owe anybody an explaination for their decision to go skiing. Katie Nicholl is the one who got out her handy little calculator and decided to stir the pot.You think it’s possible the media is a bit peeved over possibly being scooped on the engagement details? Lets see what the week brings.
Absolutely correct, Lisa. Those are internet posters who register under several different names and post their smack about Kate Middleton. Some of the names I immediately recognize because they are always the first in the comments sections with their bile.
The same lot will probably expect that Kate should buy her wedding dress off the rack due to the recession. LOL. I cannot wait to hear the comments when they see the mother of all engagement rings!
alsgal, I agree with your comment. I agree with Lisa as well. William and Kate don’t owe anyone an explanation for going on a holiday.
But as the future king, William should show a little awareness for what’s going on in his country. As a British citizen, I would like to see our future king restrain from going on lavish holidays as a show of respect to his people.
True, there will always be the poor and there will always be the rich everywhere, but William will be a leader, and his first priority should be the people. The royal family is there to represent we the people, and if the majority of the people in this country are going mad over economic distress, spending £40,000 on a holiday is… disappointing.
I am not trying to bash the royal family. I have always and still very much do have great respect for them, or why else would I be on this site?
BUT And I am personally tired of all these Kate Middleton bashings. Yeah I know if I don’t like them then don’t read them. But I do read them, and I find them to be quite troubling how a lot of people are unwilling to accept the fact that she will very likely become the future queen.
I just had to get that off my chest.
I was just watching the ITN Source video of William at St. James’s Palace reception for Centrepoints 40th Anniversary.
http://tinyurl.com/dxqkye
In video 4 you will hear William talking to a guy that he watches on TV and William tells him that his (girlfriend) talks about him alot. I don’t know this guy is though.
I thought it was nice that he mentioned Kate and she wasn’t far from his mind.
Rman,
Perhaps I am now getting old but I did not hear KM’s name mentioned and the reference to ‘friends’ was quite indistinct. PLease correct me and direct me to the relevant part of the tape.
That appart, I thought his speech and overall decorum was excellent and well above anything he has done in past.
His relationship with people seems on a par with his mother but to me it is still a great pity that he does not use some of those relationship skills when with KM. It is not a crime to respect your partner whatever views one may have with reporters. However he really is the greatest flirt and really turns it on.
I am truly concerned by the reporting of the possible attacks on PW and PH. I feel that one piece of reporting harms the security of both. Now not only do their security have to deal with the real threat, but with prankster, copy cats and people generally out to make mischief.
I would hope that their security detail would be efficient enough and have sufficient intelligence information from the various agencies to handle any attempts but by bringing it into public domain the report has intensified their task.
I’m not sure that the ‘freedom of information’ amongst us will agree with that view and it is just my opinion and I don’t think many other news sources have taken it up.
Ked,
“His relationship with people seems on a par with his mother but to me it is still a great pity that he does not use some of those relationship skills when with KM”. How do you know it? Are you with them when they are in private? the only thing we see it”s when they are in public and we know for a long time now that PW doesnt share anything private with the press and in front of photographs or when he surely knows they are hidden somewhere to take a photo. we see a small very small part of his private life, not to say nearly anything. So how can we know how they behave in private? you dont, and I dont. For the holiday, sorry but the recession hits spain, netherlands, danmark, etc… and all these royal families went to sky (even the queen of netherlands) and for spain, princess elena and christian went and spain is in a very hard recession (more than in france and uk). If people who have money stop spending it, it will be catastrophic!!!
Thanks for that video Rman. I heard him say something about about “my girlfriend” I thought I also heard something like “very happy birthday”. I will have another listen.
I found the part you are talking about,Rman. It is in clip 4/7 and he says to the guy that he sees him on TV alot and the guy asks if he watches and William says something about his girlfriend watching and the fellow says he “ran into her at …”. I don’t have time to watch the rest now. Great find!
Morning everybody,
Thanks for the video Rman. I just found that part you are talking about too Rman.I heard it too, he said something like “oh my girlfriend talks about … a lot” (I did’nt hear exactly about what but the words “my girlfriend” can clearly be heard.
NYme,
On blackberry so please excuse.
OK I accept what you say but answer “WHY” ?
Is he ashamed of KM?
Is he afraid that if they split it will be used against him in future if, for instandce he holds her hand ?
When theyt were at Univ I have seen many when they hold hands and even cuddle as they walk about but over the past 4 years the nearest he has been to her is in Austrial when he touches her shoulder. Agreed?
Ked,
“When theyt were at Univ I have seen many when they hold hands and even cuddle as they walk about”.
Are you sure?
Girlie
Mapleleaf,
Could you ask the person who called the Palace to give their phone number?
I know you have an account with this site.
I would like to call so we’ll have two answers to compare. I could’nt find one. Many thanks.
is it frederick windsor and his fiancee cancel or posponed the wedding on september? about KM and PW as long as they have money they can ski holiday.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1162347/Like-mother-like-daughter-Princess-Bea-spitting-image-Fergie.html
update
Ked William clearly said “my girlfriend talks about you a lot” And the guy responded yeah I ran into her and she told me. So if you listen carefully, you will understand what he is saying. You guys are welcome, I thought it was a very nice event.
Ked I’m sure that same charm he showed the guest is the same charm he shows his girlfriend. He won her heart in some way and after seven years together, I get the feeling he still charms her. You can tell he is a very nice, easy going type of a guy that likes to laugh and have fun. I don’t see this very distant, cold, unaffectionate person you seem to think William is. We don’t know him personally nor do we know what he and Kate do in private but common sense will tell you that they must love each other very much and show that love for one another. Please excuse my language but just because we don’t see them having an orgie in public does not mean a thing.
Yes,William clearly said “my girlfriend talks about you a lot”.Check this part of the tape- 00:08:33
Yes, I agree w/Rman and Mathidle, that PW did mention his “girlfriend” watching something and the guy said “Do you watch it?” Then I heard the guy say maybe he met her in the weight room and said she liked the it (program?). I am not good at dictation and it was difficult to hear, but PW did say “girlfriend.”
PW definitely referred to his girl-friend in the programme. I do wish they would hurry up and announce their engagement. Perhaps after the Easter skiing holiday? Or before even better!
Hello,
I’ve used computer at office and confirm PW did say ‘my girlfriend has told me about you” and the guy responded “yes I caught up with her a (something) ago”.
Well done Rman, that is the scoop of the year and Steven should push that at all the no no sites.
I believe that may be the only reference PW has ever made about KM as “MY GIRLFRIEND” in public and he may not have known camera and voice mac were on him.
Again well done.
oh big mistake for one so careful about hiding away his ‘girlfriend’
So this confirms it, he has a girlfriend.
Well is it nice to make that girlfriend hideaway?
The press will eat her alive when she comes back out in public.
I think the ‘weight’ room was the ‘wait’ room.
Kate is living at CH is my conclusion.
He better tell the public. The deserve to know who is living there.
Rman,
I believe you do post occasionally on “that other” site.
Please post your video and watch reaction.
Please! Pretty Please!
Hi Girlie,
I sincerely apologise, but I can’t ask anyone for their mobile phone number. I feel that would be an unsafe thing to do, I hope you understand.
Maybe BRW (Stephen) will ask for you, or perhaps you can give Stephen your permission to release your email address to that person, and they can email you the information themselves.
Lisa, thank you for telling us with ITN video clip is the one where Wills says the words “my girlfriend”!!
I listened to video clip #4, and I think I can repeat most of what Wills and Ben de Lisi (that’s the guy Wills was talking to) were saying. Their conversation starts about :50 seconds into video clip#4.
(Btw, Ben de Lisi is a famous fashion designer in the U.K., apparently he’s also been on television a number of times, and that was what he and Wills were discussing.) I can’t make out all of the words they are saying, but I am able to understand the word ‘girlfriend’ very clearly. Wills says the word ‘girlfriend’ at about 1:00 on the time marker in the clip.
I put ‘….’ wherever I can’t actually understand the words. Here’s my attempt at typing what they are saying:
Ben: “…Ben de Lisi” Wills: “……I see you on tv quite a lot” Ben: “do you?” Wills: “Yep” and laughs. Ben: “Are you watching it?” Wills: “….channels…variety..but my girlfriend tells me …about it…” Ben: “Yeah, I actually ran into her at Waitrose and she said she watched it.”
I didn’t bother with trying to understand anythingthat was being said, after that!
The best part is, anyone can listen to this and verify it for themselves!!
Hello,
I see the ‘Cirencester mafia’ are still here
I knew I heard “weight, wait” something. Sorry did not recognize Ben, although I have heard about him. Are they refering to the ITV stories on PW? Seems odd that if Ben talks to KM and knows that she’s his girlfriend, why does PW not just refer to her by her name “Kate” instead of my girlfriend?
Ked what site, I hope you are not talking about TRT because no I have never posted on that site. But I’m glad you heard it anyway.
Who is the ‘Cirencester mafia’ ?
I think Freddie Windsor and his fiancee’ should just get married in Vegas as it seems more their style. They could rent the Playboy Suite at the Palms for their honeymoon! I think the idea of them having a respectable church wedding is silly as he seems to not be able to stop touching her breast in public. Would she wear shoes for the occasion? Don’t think the Queen will be present for this one. I hope they don’t make KM go as a fill-in for PW!
Gracie I think William said girlfriend because he probably thought the guy wouldn’t have known Kate so he just my girlfriend. I don’t know that’s just my guess. I just thought it was nice to point that out in the video.
“Way down south on the Chattahoochee, never knew how much that muddy water meant to me..”
Rman, yes you are right and I am glad you did point it out as sometimes some of us, me included tend to be negative. LOL
gracie,
You always seem to keep right there with me.
I’m just glad Wills actually using the word “girlfriend” was captured on video and audio!
That’s one transcript I enjoyed writing, for sure. I love confirming things and getting facts straight, so this just made my day.
Well Mapleleaf – I’m glad too but don’t tell KED. After all, he knows all the secrets ofr Wills and KM. Even their nightime pillow talk.
I agree with all the so called negative comments made by people about william and the complete disgrace of spending so much money on a holiday. So what if he is getting married, they should just clear off and do it and pay for it themselves, instead of the tax payer. IF everyone stopped fawning over them and made them get jobs, we would be better off.
I would guess the mafia would be the ones trying to get others to think their pov is the only right pov, espcially if it comes from a journalist
I assure you, they aren’t in a relationship.
It was simply a way of making conversation. It would have been unnecessary to be more detailed about one’s personal life in that situation. It was an evening engagement… not a confessional.
-Karagiosis
WAY DOWN SOUTH – What do you mean by, “They better tell the public” if KM is living at CH? “They deserve to know who is living there”?? Just exactly what do you mean by your comments. It’s no one’s business if KM is living there, with her parents or in an igloo in Alaska. She is NOT public property YET!
uh-oh! karagiosis is back! here we go again!!!
ah another poster to berate apart from me. Welcome to the fray Karagiosis!
He Damn Well better tell the public if she is living there, scoffing StJP bonbons, and speedialing the servants for every one of her whims. That IS tax payer money…
Guys lets calm down. Where Kate lives is none of our business. Remember they are two adults not two kids.
We are halfway through March. Any news on a Jessica Craig/Hugh Crossley wedding?
A hughes and WDS, either you guys don’t live in the U.K. or a Commonwealth country, or if you do, then you don’t know where your tax dollars go, because they DON’T go to William, Harry, Kate.
Only HM, Prince Phillip, and Prince Charles receive monies from the Civil List. Taxpayer dollars DO NOT support St. James Palace OR any of Prince Charles’ personal expenses. The Civil List only pays for Charles’ office expenses, not his living expenses. It doesn’t pay for the living expenses of the Queen and the DoE either, their personal living expenses are paid for by the Duchy of Lancashire, just like Charles’ personal living expenses are paid for by the Duchy of Cornwall. The Civil List only pays for the working and office expenses of HM, the DoE, and the PoW.
If you’re going to complain about something, then please get it right BEFORE you complain, so that you can complain about the correct things.
While it’s true that taxpayer dollars pay for William and Harry’s Royal Protection Officers, those men’s salaries are paid to them no matter where William is located. Whether William is in the barracks or on the slopes, the salary for the RPO’s remains the same.
So the complaint is sort of moot, IMO.
Well, no. The cost of sending RPO’s overseas and putting them up for a week would come from the public treasury, no?
BTW, does anyone seriously believe that KM is living in Clarence House?
Phoebe, I doubt if anyone seriously believes KM is living in CH, I think that’s just another red herring to take the discussion away from the fact that William verbally confirmed that Kate is his girlfriend.
I think that’s why Karagiosis had to hurry and post a comment as well. I don’t know about anyone else, but IMO there is no way Karagiosis has any credibility. Everything she has claimed to be correct has been proven wrong, not once but several times. If I were Karagiosis, I would’ve given up and let it go by now. The mere fact that she persists lets me know that her words are empty.
Anyone who actually knew what they were talking about, and who was actually correct would’ve been:
A. proven correct by now, or
B. Told us to just wait and see, and then kept silent until their point was proven. But so far, everything Karagiosis has claimed about Wills and Kate has been proven to be wrong.
But maybe Karagiosis is like that watch that “Takes a licking and keeps on ticking”?
Perhaps, if Wills and Kate actually walk down the aisle one day and get married (although I don’t think it will happen THIS year), Karagiosis will decide that they might be in a relationship after all!
and aren’t you the one to correct us.
Actually the servants and the food and the security are paid for through taxes
but to belabour the point in order to show you how you are wrong would be immatating your approach, which is quite frankly a bore.
Good evening. Karagiosis, so you assure the public of inside and absolutely private information. In my opinion it sounds quite strange and deserves to be argued in some way. Following your logic I can assure you that Gordon Brown prefers to eat caviar every morning while crisis. Proves, please (about PW, of course, not PM).
This is just my theory, I think someone in the Midds circle might have got caught w/their hands in the cookie jar. This might explain PW treatment of KM of late and the time she has spent in solitary and why we don’t see KM out unless its for photo op. I believe that KM might have got herself into a situation where she is at the mercy of RF might worry that her cookie jar will be made public. PW probably has his own jar full of cookies and KM, the Midds know this, so PW must tread carefully as his jar could be made public too. This is the shifting I think Ked might be refering to in the relationship. See as of right now PW controls all the cookies while KM and the Midds have very little. This also helps explain KM sub-serviant attitude when out with PW. I could be totally wrong and Alsgal 03/18/09 could be the day, but until then IMO PW is a cookie monster.
I agree up to a point: I think the RF believes that there is someone in KM’s family/inner circle that is selling inside information to the media. I wouldn’t go so far as accuse them of theft.
Thanks for that link Rman. I really enjoyed watching that, and I particularly enjoyed seeing William relaxed and having fun. Usually at royal engagements he looks as if he’s facing a firing squad. So that viddy for me was absolutely wonderful, it actually showed the warmth William is capable of. I wish we could see more of that.
P.S. I almost forgot, I have a great aunt who also knows the Queen and she tells me that William and Kate are very much together.
Hello,
Where thr **** is this site going.
Please someone put a stop to it now.
cookie jar? theft? of cookies? or what? please clarify!
Oh, give it a rest, Ked!
What a pale commentary about Kate and William’s relationship, if after so many years of dating, the only indicating in some way they are a couple is a barely undecipherable comment at a official function.
Girlfriend after all these years is not necessarily good for Kate, just ask the Swedish Prince’s girlfriend.
I was not accusing them of theft by no means either! I can see no benefit as to why KM would stay w/ PW if she must remain in hiding, when she is obviously a lively, outgoing woman. I find the recent photos of them together disapointing. We have no other current photos to go by, KM demenor has changed. I used cookies as an example, sorry if it offends some of you. I would love for them to announce a wedding but I don’t see it. Photos don’t show everything, I am aware of that, but they can show alot. KM looks like she does not care anymore, I can’t say for a fact or call her on the phone and ask her, I am giving my opinion as this is what we do on blogs. I feel badly for her others accuse her and her sister of social climbing, etc., but she looks sad to me. Sorry if you don’t agree and perhaps my cookie example is not the best, but I am trying to understand why she would allow herself to be treated in this manner.
I am a bit surprised that some people get so excited about PW referral to KM as girlfriend. After 6 or so years, girlfriend is not good.
Also, I am not sure if the holdidays in Switzerland is such a good sign. They spend a lot of time apart, you would think they would go on holidays without friends, just to have some quality time together.
But of course, everybody and every relationship is different and perhaps this is what they both want.
Lets hope this is what they both want.
Ked, guys I didn’t mean to start any trouble with that video. I put that up because some think William never talks about her and apparently that’s not true. I really get the feeling that Kate is just working and staying away from the paps view for awhile. I don’t think William is forcing her to stay at home or anything. It’s time to stop making it seem like William got her on a leash or something. That causes people to believe she do everything he tells her to do and that gives him a bad reputation and her a bad reputation. There are times I feel bad for William & Kate because the way people talk about their private relationship is just crazy and it’s wrong. When I watched that video of William at that event at St. James’s Palace, I really do see a nice and funny guy, not a man that is careless and treats his girlfriend of seven years like a dog. It’s just wrong to do that to this couple and frankly I don’t blame them for being so private. It’s just time to stop the non sense, it’s not fair to William & Kate.
Well, although Alsgal knows deep down to the bolts of her lawnchair that KM is William’s girlfriend, let us state the facts and say he did not actually refer to Kate by name, so we are all assuming, rather logically I might add
, that due to the absence of any other signifigant female in PW’s life, that the “girlfriend” William is referring to is named Kate Middleton.
Because if the “Girlfriend” in question is really a tranny named Clarence, Alsgal will be most unhappy.
Rman, quite right, It is in Kates intrest to socialise in Berkshire, because the paps rarely venture there.
However, be aware spring is now upon us, the shooting season in all but practically over, no reason to stay in the country, people have now started to return to London and to the social whirling.
ok, then if it is so private why talk about her at an event like that?
I am glad you posted the video
Up to now i thought he didn’t acknowledge her as his girlfriend at all
This is a step up for them both
Ked you must be a pap not a journalist, no journalist would lose his cool like that
Ked, be nice! Do you think this Kloster’s trip is another tale? Maybe KM and PH should get together, atleast he would hold her hand?
Hale, does your great aunt who knows the Queen happen to know who Kara’s great aunt is?
Alsgal 03/18/09, lets hope your right cause PH messy hot pink polish is very questionable. How dare the press call him Henrietta! Maybe he will start a trend!
I believe we will see her soon but Hale I know you understand why I’m a little upset. If you go to some of those other sites and read some comments, you would think “wow” William is treating her like a dog. It’s the way they are painting the relationship and that causes some to believe it. That gives her a bad rep by staying in a relationship like that and it gives him a bad rep because it seems like he has no respect for women. It’s just the wrong thing to do guys and it’s not cool.
Well gracie to tell you the truth, this one is a bit sticky, you see I don’t know what nationality Kara is or what nationality is her great aunt.
However, I can tell you that I have filled my great aunt with all the goings on at BRW, and she just recently bumped into Q at Libertys in the silk scarf section. That’s when my great aunt told Q about BRW, and the Q who has developed quite an intrest in computers since the launch of her new website will be popping in at some time to see what we are all about.
So everyone, best foot forward and mind your P’s and Q’s.
Steve, do you have any nice pics of the Queen you could put up as headings? Preferably those ones of her in portraits, looking all regal and reminding the world that God is an Englishman?
Hardly much to get excited about. That is the best that can be produced
Especially after all the years he has had to make her his wife.
It appears stagnant ,not moving any further.
Is this BRW? Oh I am most amused.
I’ve just worked it out how you can log in under several different names. You don’t have to have different e-mail addresses.
Well now…….bring it on.
** BRW – Yes, you can, but I can still tell who’s who – so let’s not get too carried away… **
“Do you think this Kloster’s trip is another tale?”
I do. I would like to be proved wrong, although I don’t think it reflects well on PW.
michael dolen, no one is getting excited about it. I just thought it was a nice thing to point out.
WDS, I didn’t include security in what I said previously, but security is paid for by the government, although the funds don’t come from the Civil List, they come from government Grants-in-Aid voted in each year by parliament.
70% of the Civil List pays the salaries of staff working directly for the Queen. The Civil List also pays for functions like the Royal Garden Parties, Receptions, etc.
Official travel by car for HM to perform Royal duties is paid for from the Civil List, and the official travel money for the DoE comes from his Parliamentary Annuity.
Official travel by car for Charles, Anne, Andrew, etc. paid for from other sources, but not the Civil List or Grants-in-Aid.
Buckingham Palace, St. James’s Palace and Clarence House, Kensington Palace, Windsor Castle and Windsor Great Park; all of those Palaces are paid for by Grants-in-Aid that are approved by parliament every year.
The Grants-in-Aid are given in exchange for the revenue from the Crown Estates. The revenue from the Crown Estates is more than what the Grants-in-Aid cost, so the government is getting the better end of the deal. I guess HM could always rescind the deal with the Crown Estates and just keep the Crown Estates money for herself and her family, but the government would be losing a LOT of money!
Parliament and the taxpayers are getting the better end of the deal, and Charles pays for all of William and Harry’s personal expenses with funds from the Duchy of Cornwall, not the Civil List or Grants-in-Aid. IF Kate were to live in CH, (which I don’t believe in the first place)
hitting snooze button………….bOring!
** BRW – No need for comments like this, if you’re feeling bored just go somewhere else – easy! **
I meant to say that IF Kate were to live in CH, her expenses would be paid for by the Duchy of Cornwall.
As for Wills and Kate, I’m glad that Wills referred to Kate as his girlfriend on camera. So many people tried to argue and say that she isn’t, but William has let people know with his own mouth that she is.
Testing Hale’s new theory!
Ked, that one’s for you!!
Hale, you and I must be pretty slow as I have been on here awhile now and did not know how to do it!!
Do we know if KM is practicing w/sisterhood?
Mapleleaf they always knew that she is is girlfriend but you know that have to be silly.
I don’t believe she lives there either but it is known that she stays there with William from time to time. She may stay there after her engagement though.
I don’t get what’s happening on this board lately. I think some folks had figured they would slowly inject poison and that it would spread.
waydownsouth – EXTREMELY rude and disrespectful of you to imply anyone was boring.
Maybe WDS is rude but Mapleleaf could use some lessons in how to write so people will bother to read. Mapleleaf’s response to WDS in the first instance was just as rude. I think for everyones sake the less we intrude on other’s posts the better. All of us.
TeaTea, well said. Mapleleaf, as ever well done on your research.
Ked, just ignore them. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, I happen to relish your posts.
As for anyone thinking W & K’s relationship is stagnant. Has everyone forgotten that W did say he didn’t want to get married until he was 28 or 30?
gracie, yeh, that’s how they do it. I was just kidding around when I discovered how by accident. Then again I’ve never claimed to be computer literate.
Still this forum has been truly educational.
Damn Corgis. What’s this? Ahh BRW, so this is it…carry on, carry on.
Let me make it simple for everyone.
Prince William referred to Ms. Middleton as his girlfriend. Therefore she is. No point arguing it now. She is. Period. If she were not, he would never have referred to her as such.
As for how long it has been, they are taking their time. Not everyone has to go right from meeting, to sleeping together to engagement to marriage in a few months. When they do get married you know it will last because they took the time to get to know each other.
Consider that Prince William’s parents divorced and two of his uncles are divorced (one multiple times), it is actually a very mature decision to take things slowly and make sure it is right.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1162565/Following-mothers-footsteps-Prince-William-helps-kitchen-homeless-charity-newly-released-photo.html
KED – Calm down. I think you take yourself way too seriously and always believe your comments to be fact. Just sit back and let Wills and KM live their lives. I doubt you know as much as you claim to about them.
rosettaresearch, that’s right. I have been saying for a long time that they have taken their time with their relationship. It’s something that goes unrecognized and that’s sad. I can’t wait for the glorious day when they announce their engagement.
empathy is crucial….
….to be concerned not simply about what “I” want, but about what the others in one’s orbit might also want…..their feelings are important, too, and sometimes giving others’ feelings top priority means “I” won’t get exactly what “I” want
maybe someone doesn’t want to marry until they’re a certain age…but meantime, their significant other might wish for some formal, public commitment or honor
that’s what makes marriage so special….it’s a public statement, that formalizes a private commitment…..
making a relationship status public is also important….it’s a way of honoring and showing one’s love and respect for one’s partner
it’s saying to the world: “this person is not just my “friend” or my “boyfriend” or “girlfriend” but my bethrothed, my fiancee, whom I plan to marry…..
Firist, William referred to his girlfriend for the first time in public. I am not so sure that he knew that what he said would be picked up by the sound system. That is the beauty of it. It proves the private prince displays PDA (Private Display of Affection) towards Kate. There are people who would have you believe that he is using her. That just doesn’t add up. They have been together for a long time. I believe that there has to be a couple who care deeply for each other to stay together that long. Yes, I look at them as a couple in love.
I will comment on this site. I came here because this was an accepting site, Also, I enjoyed reading the comments from Claudius, Rman, and some others. I like the fact that most people here are willing to give Kate the benefit of the doubt. There are others (which I count myself in this group ) who are routing for her. I would hope that the others would respect the comments from everyone. Mapleleaf I think that your posts are super-Keep it up.
I do hope that the wedding of Kate and William will happen sooner than later. Kate needs security. She also needs the love of her Prince as he needs her love. I am hoping for their happiness.
I just watched the video. I’m sure I will be lambasted for this, but, isn’t there a possibility that they were both joking?
Ruh-roh a second time. Good thing PW mentioned his “girlfriend” (who we assume is Kate) — as that seems to be what she is destined to remain unless my tattoo pays off.
Anyone else seen the Times article on the Killing Kittens?
I see even that speed-demon “Ron” has picked up on the Emma Sayles/ Kate Middleton connection.
Emma may be a terrific friend, a lovely girl, and one heckuva Madame, but it can hardly be considered desirable that Kate, possibly a future Queen, should be seen as someone who once took part in a charity boat race with several of Emma’s erm, girls — along with Emma herself.
Trying to spin this association at the Palace will be difficult, but not impossible. Let us not forget that even hideous looking adulteresses who destroyed a lovely young Princess are well tolerated.
No lambasting- just the facts- William referred to his girlfriend-by implication-Kate
That is all.
anastasia, I understand you but the royals don’t do that. William has let the media nd public know that Kate is his girlfriend by bringing her to his family events like the Order of the Garter, royal weddings and that photo opportunity at his wings ceremony.
Here’s the photos that said it all.
http://tinyurl.com/dyd8ng
http://tinyurl.com/cqstvc
http://tinyurl.com/cmju9e
http://tinyurl.com/btfewd
I don’t think the video is the revelation that people are making it. I think they were both joking. Disappointed.
People are always going to try to bring Kate down but she’s a fighter and she is still the longtime companion of Prince William. Kate may be a friend of Emma Sayles but I don’t believe she approves of her actions. I think that’s one of thev reasons why the Palace pulled Kate from that race.
I don’t think KM and Emma Sayles are friends. I think their only association was through the Sisterhood. The tabs made them “friends” to make the story more lurid and saleable.
Phoebe, William just mentioned that his girlfriend Kate is a fan and they guy knew that because she told him so. That’s all there is to it. Lets not make too much of it.
Oh I see, I thought people were saying that they were friends.
Thanks for clearing that up Pheobe.
Rman, I respect your opinion but I see the video differently. OK?
Well, I totally enjoyed that video and along with the Kate discussion, it was cool seeing the inside of the Palace.
Once again, great job,Rman!
alsgal,
You have given yourself away, no one over the age of 25 uses or knows the meaning of the word “tranny.”
LOL!
Yes I know that Pheobe. Lisa I also enjoyed that video. Long after these two are married, their family and friends will give little interviews about the couple and the truth will be known. That is what I’m waiting on, the truth.
Rman I understand your point when you posted those pictures, but just let me remind you that everything in life changes. Probably at that moment PW and KM were happy but we cant be 100% sure that they will remain like that for the next yrs. Lets remember that PW and KM have a long way to go before they marry(many yrs), and have many challenges they have to face and endure. So during those yrs anything can happen.
That they will marry one day, I am 50% sure yes, and 50% sure not. Just because we see them happy right now that doesnt mean that one day in the future something may go wrong. Again they have many yrs before they marry and anything can happen during those yrs. Life is full of surprises. We have seen these cases in famous couples who look to be very happy and suddenly out of nothing they end up breaking for reasons we were not familiar of. I admire your optimism too.
IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL AT ALL THAT PW REFERRED TO KATE AS HIS GIRLFRIEND, because she is.
Everybody knows that, and it is neither a particular sign of affection nor a pretense he’s putting on for whatever reason people cook up.
I refer to my fiancee as my fiancee, of course I love her, but simply referring to her as my fiancee does not necessarily show my private display of affection at all.
I am sure that PW has probably referred to Kate as his girlfriend plenty of times before, it just hasn’t been caught on tape as often.
I remember PW referring to his girlfriend in another interview, when he said “my girlfriend is a great dancer” or something like that. So this is NOT the first time.
Mapleleaf,
Sorry you misunderstood me, I dont want the SG number phone. I want the palace one to check her informations because sorry I dont believe her at all
Phoebe, I am wondering, is Ben de lisi a comedian? Or is that part of his routine, surely if he had met kat in the wait room then William would refer to her has kate to ben, while I think william said his girlfriend I just wonder about the context.
William is on the cover of this weeks Hello!. the people behind his image building are doing a good job. He is also attending a rugby match in Cardiff on sat the 21st.
I think I am seeing what is going on here. For the last couple of years,with the exception of a few events and some press surrounding his military duties,the only press William got was regarding his relationship to Kate. From a PR POV,that was not good for him. Placing Kate in the backround and having them only seen together infrequently, not clubbing together and no pap access to Kate,elevated both of them to a higher level PR wise. It’s a variation on keds theory that Kate is being torn down to make Wills look better,which I don’t believe is the case. I believe it is a well thought out plan that will lead William and Kate into public life in a more positive light.
I hope William and Kate will reconsider their ski vacation, or at the very least be careful.
It looks like Natasha Richardson is not going to make it after her terrible skiing accident.
Oh my goodness. Is she that bad?
I hope Natasha Richardson gets better. I was shocked to hear that happened to her.
I do hope we see the couple soon.
Lisa if that’s the case I hope they start incorporating Kate into his engagements. Even though I know they are in this together, the public needs to see that they are in this together. Although the plan looks like the team is getting William out there doing his duties and at some point they will put Kate out there with him.
Well, the PR campaign for William is about as obvious as it gets. Lets face it, he needed it. I am somewhat confused by the large amount of time he is able to spend away from the RAF. I have to admit. For a program that was said to be so intense, he does seem to have alot of time to do other things. Unless they really cut him a great deal before he signed up…
I am not sure if there will be video to add to this link. I will keep an eye on it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/17/earlyshow/main4871022.shtml
Girlfriend,
Ben de Lisi is a fashion designer not a comedian.
http://cbs3.com/entertainment/prince.williams.Kate.2.961099.html
Video link
Lisa, in regards to William’s supposed heavy SAR training, that was the impression Alsgal had as well. Just as his 2 am Mahiki exits during his intensive training at Sandhurst made us wonder how well he could possibly handle a machine gun 5 hours later whilst surely suffering a hangover, Alsgal doesn’t know what exactly is involved in his SAR training at this point.
Alsgal was under the impression that the SAR training was extremely rigorous, and that William was not allowed to go very far away from the base, and that was supposedly why PW was limiting himself to a small number of charities? Did Alsgal misunderstand?
Now it appears they have found some free time for him which coincidentally is occurring after the rash of Lazy Prince press. Once again, the CH PR flunkeys are looking rather reactive, defensive, and as usual, a bit clueless.
Either PW is understandably busy training and doesn’t have time for public engagements (and partying) or he is not so busy and should take on full load like a regular working Royal.
Might look better if they got their story straight.
KN is right we never know what this couple will do. Like I said before, William & Kate are always a couple of steps ahead of us and we are always a couple of steps behind them. That’s how they keep it. For example, I think it was KN that said Kate wouldn’t attend the Garter Service but before you could blink your eyes, she was there. The whole time she had been invited by the Queen and William. It’s remarkable how they are making sure that they take their time with their relationship, it tells you that they want to make sure they get this right. But I always said that William & Kate will spring a surprise on us (engagement). It’s going to come when we least expect it to. That’s what this couple do best is surprise us. So it could be today, tomorrow, next week, next month or next year. Although I have a strong feeling that it will be sooner than we think. William & Kate like to keep us all guessing and that’s why I like this site because we are all trying to figure out what’s going to happen next.
I use the word REMARKABLE because the definition of the word describes this relationship-
notably or conspicuously unusual; extraordinary: a remarkable change.
I am totally cracking up that PC named the turtle, “William.” How funny is that? That sounds like something my brother would do, you know Alsgal, the one I told you about. I use the word “tranny” too, what else do you call them?
LOL, yeah that is funny.
I really hate that a reputable outlet like CBS using Katie Nicholl. She does not know squat about what she speaks,IMO and her opinions change like the wind. She has about as much of a clue as to what they have planned as we do and she said as much in that clip!
PW new “in your face, but so obvious” PR campaign is making me want to puke! I agree w/Alsgal 03/18/09 that SJP needs to decided what PW career path is, cause at the moment it looks like they are pushing his royal job and his military career just kind of disappeared? I think maybe PW did not set out to do what he’d hope in the RAF or perhaps they wised up and didn’t want the risk of Chinook borrowing prince again? This is SJP way to remake PW into what he should have done in the begining, a full-time working royal hoping that all that ITN stuff will be forgotten and PW will be accepted when PR tell the public that he is more useful in royal capacity then he would be in RAF and w/Queen and PP wanting to deligate more work to other royals, PW chose to help the family than pursue his dream of flying. IMO. Sorry for the big “run-on” sentence! I think Ked brought this up, better wording than myself of course, but I think PW RAF duty is a thing of the past and is being phased out much like KM. Something has happened and now PW PR wants him to be seen as the” Royal Prince” not “Top Gun” Prince. Why did they make this complete U-Turn after they tried to sell the public the “Top Gun,” which now the staring role as Maverick has been given to PH. PH will be “Top Gun” and PW will be “Royal Prince.”
LOL, Lisa I don’t know why they keep going to her for news. Although I agree with her that we never know what William will do but why do they keep going to KN?
Gracie I think it’s fo the better that William do more duties. I don’t think this new team is phasing Kate out but will put her out there soon. I just think they are working on him at the moment. You are right, this is what they should have done long ago. Which makes me think that William wanted to do more royal duties but CH was holding him back. Just a thought. This break from CH seem to be doing some good. I hope William starts to travel and even come to the USA.
Sorry for the misspelling, I ment “for”.
does it really matter if she is his girlfriend or not??? Still a complete wate of money. Also, I really can’t see why he is classed as being part of the RAF as he spends no time actually working. Let’s face it, bit of time with the Army, bit with the RAF, what next? walmart?
Gracie, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are working with Kate and helping her find some projects that interest her. Then at some point they will put her out there. I think William & Kate have a plan that this new team is helping them with. They are all working towards a goal.
I don’t think it was Clarence House holding him back. It was him rebelling against the role of Royal Prince. He was going to fly, by gum, and that was it. Remember, there were reports he would be spending this year around Whitehall. Suddently that went bye-bye when he wanted to be SAR Prince.
Then the negative publicity came out. Also, the Queen and Prince Phillip needed to cut back. Prince William loves his grandparents. So, he had to give up his dream of flying to settle down to his official duties. Time to grow up.
Once he is established in his official duties, then he can announce his engagement who will share those duties by his side. Which is another reason to get him out the military. She can’t share a chopper with him. But a lovely, energetic young couple working to lead Great Britain into the future is fantastic PR.
All I know is William wouldn’t do Kate wrong, she is part of this. I can’t wait to see them working together.
A hughes, I think Wal-Mart is really what PW needs at this point. Make him work as a cashier, than a stock boy and work up to security following shop lifters. This is more real than most of the stuff he is getting.
Everytime they spend money shopping or going on holidays the more they are helping keeping the business going longer.Which means jobs. So keeping shooping KM and Will keep on going on holidays with her. Women love to shop its in our blood.
Hale, thank you very much for your kind words in post #107. Girlie, I will try to find the telephone number for you. I am a bit tipsy, i will to do it later on today. even tho st. patrik’s day is over, happy st. patrick’s day to everyone!
Hi eveyone,
BEN DI LISI was part of the fashion week in London. So on the tape William said ” my girlfriend saw your show and loved it (something like that).HIM : “Yes I know….” The rest is what Rman and Mapleleaf told us.
So Kate went to the fashion week and nobody knows it because of her discretion. This means she has a life and dont stay at home. We knew she was spotted at the theatre not long ago SHE HAS A SOCIAL LIFE !!!!
here is another video from a US station. Pretty much more of the same but you might enjoy anyway!
http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10024003
If it had happened, I don’t believe it would leak. But it will get here when it gets here. Like I said before, these two will surprise us. I don’t even think the media will know until the palace say something.
I found Neil Sean’s comments amusing as he was one of the ones last year who was saying they would be married this year,lol…he acts as if Kate is some teenager whispering to her friends about her boyfriend. Kate has been tight lipped for all these years, she is not going to break that policy now. Your right,Rman, it will be a surprise to the media. I think Katie Nicholl was covering her butt when she said that you say one thing and William does something else. She basically admitted she has not clue,LOL. I am happy to see some mainstream media starting to pay attention,though.
I find it funny too Lisa. On their sites FoxNews and The Daily Mail, they report one thing and when they are asked to give up some info on the news live, they report another. The whole thing just makes me think that Neil and Katie have no idea what they are talking about. Which is sad. They really will confuse you. I think people are still shocked that Kate has kept a tight lip all these years.
Hi, found on the BBC site :
Newsround: Exclusive chat with Prince William in Clarence House
Kate Middleton is quite lazy. She goes on vacations, shops, clubbing, partying and William’s life events. What else does she do? And no the paparazzi is not an excuse because Kate frequents the paparazzi infested nightclubs through the front door.
There is more to being a princess than being pretty and looking good in an evening dress. Kate pales in comparison to the likes of Princesses Mary, Alexandra, Maxima, and Letizia.
I don’t think William is in love with Kate. Because in order to win a man’s love, you need to earn his respect. How can anyone respect Kate Middleton right now? If William does marry Kate, that speaks volumes of his own character. Because a successful man deserves a successful woman; an unsuccessful lazy man deserves an unsuccessful lazy woman.
Kate Middleton hasn’t been doing the rounds of shopping and clubbing on a regular basis since 2007.
In 2008 Kate was snapped out clubbing only 6 times for the entire year.
I didn’t include the charity parties Kate attended with Wills, just her clubbing appearances both with Wills and without him.
That’s definitely not excessive. Kate took 4 vactions/holidays in 2008, all of them with Wills. Again, not excessive.
In 2009, Kate hasn’t been snapped out clubbing at all, and it’s already mid March.
The only holiday she’s reported to have taken this year was at the beginning of January when she flew to Birkhall with Wills.
As for whatever else she does, I have no idea because Kate has managed to keep herself totally out of the public eye.
However, the original Party Pieces newsletter said that Kate started work at her family’s business in January 2008, and I have no valid reason to assume the PP newsletter was lying.
So, for the last year and 2 months, Kate’s been working for her family’s business.
Kate seems to have left the constant shopping, clubbing, and multiple holiday lifestyle behind in 2007 and turned over a new leaf for 2008. So far the leaf is still turned over, and it doesn’t look like it’s turning back.
I think people will just have to search hard for some new complaints to make about Kate Middleton, the clubbing/shopping/constant vacation/holiday complaints don’t apply anymore.
Kate has been clubbing many times and on vacations many times this year, besides attending numerous parties.
Let’s see for vacations this past year (2008):
There was the wedding in Austria she attended with Wills, the vacation in Caribbean with Wills in August, Scotland with Wills when she went hunting, Klosters in March, vacation in Caribbean with her family in Christmas/New Year 2007/2008.
Vacations in 2009: (1) January 2009- Wills rented that romantic cabin getaway with romantic meal. (2) March 2009 – Skiing in Switzerland. So basically 2 holidays and it’s only March.
Parties/clubbing: Boddles ball (where she wore that pink dress), nightclub club visit right after her Caribbean vacation (with the orange dress), the roller-bladding fiasco, nightclub visit in which she wore that blue dress with belt, Prince Charles’ 60th birthday bash, the 2 royal weddings this year, Afrika Afrika show, etc…
It’s surprising that royals consider things like weddings “duties” when really it’s a huge party. And I’m just thinking about Kate’s activities out of the top of my head. I’m sure if I dug a bit deeper, I could come up with more.
Lastly, I would not allow my boyfriend to pay for my vacations. Because if he did, I would be a kept woman. If I couldn’t afford it, I wouldn’t go. Just so you know, when the co-owner of Google dated his future wife, she paid for everything when they went out on dates though she was a graduate student and was living on next-to-nothing herself. This girl did her undergraduate degree at UPenn, did her Masters in Oxford, and was doing her PhD in Stanford. Any self-respecting woman would pay for herself. Kate isn’t because she has no self-respect.
Kate Middleton is not the new Diana. She is the new Marie Antoinette. Keep this schick up and we’ll see how popular the royal family will be in the future.
Of course, Kate Middleton will have her fans and defenders, just like Marie Antoinette had the royalists. 200 years after Marie Antoinette’s death, the French people treat Bastille Day as a national holiday.
Did it ever occur to you that Kate Middleton is a private citizen and what she does and who pays for it is none of your business?
Kate Middleton is dating Prince William and has been his long-term girlfriend. Thus, she is expected to live under a certain scrutiny and media attention. And Prince William is not a private citizen and where and how taxes are spent are of public interest.
Kate signed on the doted line when she agreed to go out with Prince William and knew this was coming.
Lisa, your comment is like saying Louis XV lavishing money on Madame de Pompadour and Madame du Barry is none of the French people’s money because the 2 ladies are private citizens!
I think your having a bit of a problem with your facts. As far as I know, William receives no public funding so the tax-payers have no stake in what he does with his money. He is not a king. He is a prince with enough personal wealth to enjoy his life and as he sees fit and that includes the company of his long term girlfriend who many feel will at some point,become his wife. You need to get your facts straight.
I’m not going to sit here and argue where the British Monarchy gets their money or with ardent royalists like yourself who may/may not be related to the royal family.
But all I say is this: all unfair institutions come to an end because they all on the wrong side of history…
Marie, you made my day with that post! Thanks!
And Lisa, Prince William can’t both be a prince (whose role is serving the British public) and a private individual. You’re either one or the other.
If Prince William wants to enjoy life as he sees fit and enjoy his personal wealth, perhaps he should abdicate.
I’m sure the Romanov and Bourbon supporters thought their dynasty would go on forever too. But alas, it didn’t. I have a funny feeling the Windsors will be the next to go.
To Marie – me thinks you are jealous & crazy.
Hello,
Like other before I do not think I want to associate with the new posters on BRW.
The fact that it was a pleasant site with genuine people with interesting observations has attracted the morons who have no idea of, for instance, the finances of Royalty, and who are only able to write in that confrontational style that obviously indicates collusion and a deliberate activistic style which eventually silences objective or realistic conversation.
It’s happened to others now it has happened to BRW.
To the 2 previous posters: it happened to most other forums/boards/blogs I’ve visited because most people have woken up to the reality of Katie Waitey and Prince William, in particular Kate.
(Yawn)
*** BRW – language – post removed **
STEVEN (BRW)……………………..
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better to ignore than dictate that only those views that please us are the ones that are allowed.
Agreed
What is going on here?? This is a good site, please lets not turn this into a free for all against Kate or other posters.
Marie Duplessis, this is in response to your post# 167, which I’ve quoted comment by comment below:
“Kate has been clubbing many times and on vacations many times this year, besides attending numerous parties”
A: This year is 2009. You didn’t name one clubbing or partying incident that Kate Middleton has attended in 2009, and that’s because there aren’t any to name.
Moving on to the next quote from you:
“Let’s see for vacations this past year (2008): There was the wedding in Austria she attended with Wills,”
A: MD, the wedding in Austria took place over a weekend, it did not involve any work-week days. The first photos of Wills and Kate in Austria were taken on Friday night. According to Bild.de, Hello, and several Austrian newspapers, Wills and Kate flew back to the U.K. the Sunday after the wedding. That was not a vacation, it was a WEEKEND.
There is a difference between a weekend and an actual vacation/holiday taken during week days. People with jobs often go away for on the weekend and come back Sunday evening in time for work Monday morning, which is what Wills and Kate did for their friend’s wedding in Austria.
Next quote:
“…the vacation in Caribbean with Wills in August,”
A: That’s one of the FOUR vacations I mentioned.
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“Scotland with Wills when she went hunting,”
A: MD, Wills and Kate were papped at Sandringham on 13 December, which was a Saturday. Again, it was a weekend. Weekends are not week days.
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“Klosters in March, vacation in Caribbean with her family in Christmas/New Year 2007/2008.”
A: The Klosters vacation/holiday is a part of the FOUR that I mentioned Kate Middleton took during 2008. However, Kate wasn’t in the Caribbean for New Years 2008; there were lots of paparrazzi photographs taken in an international airport showing Kate and her family in an airport queuing up to return to the U.K. on 28 December 2007.
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“Vacations in 2009: (1) January 2009- Wills rented that romantic cabin getaway with romantic meal. (2) March 2009 – Skiing in Switzerland. So basically 2 holidays and it’s only March.”
A: That’s not correct. 1. There has only been ONE holiday mentioned in the press that Kate has taken in 2009, and that’s the one where she spent 6 days in Scotland with Wills and Prince Charles starting on New Year’s day. 2. The cabin or lodge belongs to the Birkhall estate, Wills didn’t have to rent it. 3. The skiing holiday has NOT happened yet, it’s supposedly scheduled to start 5 April, 2009.
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“Parties/clubbing: Boddles ball (where she wore that pink dress),”
A: As I said in my previous comment, I didn’t include charity parties as clubbing. The reason is because charity parties exist to raise money for the benefit of the charities, they’re not just regular ‘nights out clubbing’. The Boodles Boxing Ball was a charity boxing match and balll, it was not just a night out clubbing.
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“….nightclub club visit right after her Caribbean vacation (with the orange dress),”
A: That was included in the 6 clubbing appearances I mentioned for 2008.
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“..the roller-bladding fiasco,”
A: The roller-blading event was charity event that benefitted a very worthy children’s cancer centre ward charity, it was not a night out clubbing.
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“..nightclub visit in which she wore that blue dress with belt,”
A: That was included with the 6 clubbing appearances for 2008.
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“…Prince Charles’ 60th birthday bash,”
A: According to the press, Kate Middleton attended Prince Charles’ birthday party at Highgrove, which is William’s private family home and not a night club. It was not a vacation/holiday either. The party was held at Highgrove on a weekend. A birthday party at a private home is not a night out clubbing.
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“…was at hi the 2 royal weddings this year,”
A: Royal weddings are not club outings or holidays, plus the royal weddings Kate attended took place on weekends.
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“..Afrika Afrika show, etc…”
A: Afrika Afrika was not a club outing or a vacation/holiday, it was a circus-type event held in a theatre. It took place at night, not during a work day.
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“It’s surprising that royals consider things like weddings “duties” when really it’s a huge party. And I’m just thinking about Kate’s activities out of the top of my head. I’m sure if I dug a bit deeper, I could come up with more.”
A: I can’t speak for anyone else, but I think weddings are ceremonies and celebrations of a couple’s sacred union. Families and friends attend to share in the couple’s joy, and the party afterwards is to celebrate the union. Most weddings usually take place on weekends, and the two royal weddings that Kate Middleton attended last year occurred on weekends. They didn’t take place on any work days, and they weren’t holidays or vacations.
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“Lastly, I would not allow my boyfriend to pay for my vacations. Because if he did, I would be a kept woman. If I couldn’t afford it, I wouldn’t go. Just so you know, when the co-owner of Google dated his future wife, she paid for everything when they went out on dates though she was a graduate student and was living on next-to-nothing herself. This girl did her undergraduate degree at UPenn, did her Masters in Oxford, and was doing her PhD in Stanford. Any self-respecting woman would pay for herself. Kate isn’t because she has no self-respect.”
A: How could anyone other than Kate herself know whether or not she feels self respect?
As for a boyfriend paying for a girlfriend’s holiday/vaction, there are many people who disagree with the idea that if a boyfriend pays for his girlfriend to go on holiday/vacation, then she’s a kept woman. I for one don’t agree with that idea, IMO it’s silly. I’m married now, but when I wasn’t, my then boyfriend paid for me to go on holiday with him, and I wasn’t a ‘kept’ woman. A ‘kept’ woman has all of her living expenses paid for by a man. That includes the roof over her head, the food that goes into her mouth, and the clothes on her back. Paying for a holiday for your girlfriend does not automatically make her a ‘kept’ woman, just like paying for a holiday for your man does not automatically make him a ‘kept’ man.
Wills has been on holiday with the Middleton family before. How do we know that the Middletons didn’t treat him by paying for his plane ticket and all of his expenses? Would that have automatically made Wills a ‘kept’ man? The answer is no. There is nothing wrong with a man treating his girlfriend to a nice holiday. And why in the world would anyone actually object to someone treating someone else to a nice vacation/holiday, anyway?
IMO it would be just petty to object to someone being treated by their boyfriend OR their girlfriend to a nice vacation/holiday once in a while.
mapleleaf,
I think you deserve a nice cup of tea and a rest after the last post!
and a piece of my home made cake!
wheww mapleleaf…great job!!
Mapleleaf, speaking truth to . . . (be nice).
No not a cup of tea, I’d say a glass of champagne. Mapleleaf….cheers and touche.
i am sorry could you repeat that Mapleleaf
Good grief I go away for a few days on vacation & bedlum breaks out. What on earth is going on. Thank you Mapleleaf for setting the record straight. It seems as if lately this website has been influtrated by people who just want to be nasty all day. I don’t agree that we all like to hear the same thing repeated, Ked & B often debate the views which are held by many. I will never understand why some individuals are so vindictive?????
here in the U.S., it’s expected that the guy pay for dates…..
sure, there’s a certain small subset who practice “dutch treat,” but they’re in the minority
it’s also true that traditions slowly change, and things are certainly *slowly* changing
nevertheless, for the most part, if the guy really cares about the gal, he pays in the relationship….
and, if the guy is low on funds, then it’s the *thought* that counts: he takes the gal to places he can afford, but he still pays….
sure, it’s great for the gal to reciprocate now and then: offer to pay for a change, or offer to prepare dinner for the guy
but for the gal to usually pay her way screams desperation…if the guy is really interested, he’ll scrimp and save so he can afford
we had friends staying with us two years ago from Britain and it shocked us that the woman was paying her own way….the guy was fully capable of paying for her, yet she footed her own expenses….
i was under the impression that KM sometimes paid her own way on long distance trips and this concerned me….PW should be paying for her, she’s his girlfriend he should step up to the plate
Just visiting and Sarah, thank you so much for your kind words!!
Just visiting, a slice of your homemade cake and a flute of champagne sounds wonderful.
Hale, your words are praise from Caesar, thank you.
WDS, I wouldn’t dare.
ps:
re-reading some posts here…..
a “kept woman” is a woman whose total living expenses are paid for by a paramour…..oftentimes, if not always, this is in the context of an illicit affair….
her housing, clothes, activities, etc. are paid for by the man….the relationship is typically kept low key or secret, she is just there on the sidelines for the man’s amusement
in contrast, when a man pays all his girlfriend’s dating expenses, this certainly does NOT make her a kept woman
it merely means she’s loved and respected by her boyfriend
“but for the gal to usually pay her way screams desperation”
I beg to differ, honey. In the US, it is NOT expected that the guy pay for dates. Sorry, but you’re way off the mark.
Yw JJ, I’m glad I could help set the record straight.
Anastasia, I totally agree with your comment, I feel the exact same way. I’ve always felt that a man should pay if he is financially able to do so.
I don’t mind splitting the costs if we’re both students in uni, and I don’t mind occasionally treating my guy, but IMO the guy should pay if he’s in a position to do so.
If he’s not in uni and and he works but funds are scarce, then he needs to take his girlfriend to the places he can afford to take her, even if he just takes her to KFC for a good chicken burger.
it can cause problems later on if they break up, and given pw reported penchant for saving a dollar lets hope he doesn’t send a bill.
I know someone who did that, he funded his girlfriend during her grad school At the end she moved to be with him and left him 2 months later, When she left for the airport he presented her with her account !
WDS, I agree with what that guy did!
But paying for grad school is a totally different kettle of fish from paying for your girlfriend’s meal and movie ticket, or even paying for her vacation/holiday as a special treat.
I’m not suggesting that a man should pay for his girlfriend’s graduate school costs!! That’s ridiculous. If her parents can’t afford to pay for grad school, then she needs to find a way to pay for it herself.
That type of an expense should only be paid for by the person getting the education, or their family if they can afford it.
That’s not the same thing as a vacation at all.
Paying for grad school for someone is exactly the same thing as paying for someone’s living expenses and food and clothing on a regular basis.
Thank you Mapleleaf. There is a difference in voicing an opinion and being condesending. Marie Duplessis you have a right to your own opinion. However, grant us the same right. You in saying what you did about Kate reveal yourself to be a person who doesn’t deal with people not having the same viewpoint as yourself. The bottom line is that you see what William and Kate let the world see. You have no insight about their private lives. Kate could be envolved with charities, spending every weekend with William,and they could love each other dearly. With them being fiercely protective of their privacy there are few people who know exactly what goes on with them out of the public eye. We don’t know what Kate does with her time. I suspect that she works hard for her parents for one thing. Why anyone would blast a young woman who has been with someone as long as she has with William, I’ll never know. Only William and Kate can know how they are with each other and the depth of their feelings. I am hoping that they will soon share the joy that they have found in their relationship with the world.
Mapleleaf,
Hats off to you!!!!
oh he made her pay for the dinners, the vacations, everything..it was not pretty
Kat, common sense should tell people that William wouldn’t be dating a woman this long if she was a bad person. I’m sure they treat each other to trips, restaurants, movies etc all the time. That is what couples do. I don’t know why you guys are allowing KN’s artical get you all upset.
Mapleleaf, agreed!
Phoebe, if a gal asks the man out on the date, then she is expected to pay…but most women let the man do both the pursuing and the paying….men know this!
it would be much more worrisome is she were paying for the two of them all the time, the better scenario is him paying for both. or he would lose interest and fast. I would guess in his world most things are free so instead of paying they are actually getting things free…
except i would guess dinners out in london or on a trip…
Interesting
Ok magazine are reporting that there will not be a summer wedding for Wills & Kate. Not too sure how reliable the publication is. I had begun to loose hope last week for this year but there is after all next year…
Yes there is always next year. But like I said before, these two will surprise us. We have heard that same story OK is reporting before so it’s nothing new. I think we all know now that the royals have people to plan royal weddings. William would have some input but he won’t be worrying about the things we normal people would worry about. I really don’t buy that excuse JJ.
You guys are fighting, arguing and name calling like you have the inside scoop between PW and KM. What articles and blogs are you guys reading? Because I have yet to get my hands on any intimate details. I am still in the dark about what PW and KM actually do or don’t do together. I have no clue about what they do when they are apart, I have no idea who pays for what, etc. I don’t know much!
How do you guys know all of these personal details? Please tell.
Thanks for keeping the faith Rman!!!! TTYL!
Sorry coming to this a bit late (other side of the world issues…)
1. Please don’t feed the trolls. Obviously there are some commentators that are here to stir up trouble. If you ignore them they eventually go away.
2. If you are here to make trouble,do yourself a favour, instead of posting here please find another website or forum where you can mix with like-minded people. You’ll feel all the better for doing so.
3. mapleleaf – comment #186 – wow!
Steven (BRW)
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i don’t opinion ..your conservation of the travels of royals is fasinating,,both all of yall,seem to be in mind of an opinion and vibrate in thought…….all of you sound better than the american lies o the house senates…….