Prince Harry to visit USA next month

Daily MailThe Daily Mail speculates that Prince Harry will spark scenes of hysteria when he visits the US for the first time next month…

The 24-year-old is to visit New York to take part in a charity polo match as well as carrying out what aides describe as a series of ‘poignant’ engagements.

Harry, who is one of the most popular members of the Royal Family, has a huge following in America.

Stories of his exploits and romantic entanglements frequently make the front pages of the country’s best-selling magazines and newspapers.

His recent split from long-term girlfriend, Chelsy Davy, can only add to his allure. ‘It’s going to be madness,’ admitted one aide.

119 Responses to “Prince Harry to visit USA next month


  • Rman
    April 29th, 2009 09:41
    1

    I would hope this dumb Swine Flu wouldn’t mess up Harry’s visit. This flu should be a huge personal hygiene wake up call.

  • curious
    April 29th, 2009 12:22
    2

    Dear Rman, this swine flu epidemic has more to do with battle and balance between Mother Nature and species called Human Being than personal hygiene. Anyway, it is terrifying.

  • gracie
    April 29th, 2009 16:29
    3

    Curious, the “battle and balance….” we can’t control at the moment as it’s to late in the day, people have fallen ill. Hygenie is very important at this point as it can prevent spreading. Any doctor worth his weight in gold will tell you that. I suggest not worrying so much about balancing and go wash your hands!

    Perhaps they are tan because they have returned from Kenya, Jecca and Hugh should be married by now!

  • jj
    April 29th, 2009 17:34
    4

    That is right Gracie I had completely forgotten about Jecca and Hugh. I guess there should be although there was not a peep about it…

  • butterfly
    April 30th, 2009 10:10
    5

    Terrible news from Netherlands. Just visit Daily Mail or BBC website. An accident or a deliberate attempt ? We don’t know yet.

  • butterfly
    April 30th, 2009 10:21
    6

    One headline:

    ‘Four killed’ as speeding car targets Dutch royals

    Awful

  • rosettaresearch
    April 30th, 2009 10:34
    7

    So unpsetting what happened in the Netherlands. You see these things with children in the front row so they can see better. Then something like this happens.

    My prayers with everyone affected.

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 10:40
    8

    William managed to get an apology, strange that they have started to actually respond to some publications..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/30/daily-star-prince-william-apology

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 10:41
    9

    Hello are also covering the polo story in NYC

    http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2009/04/29/harry-us-tour-polo/

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 10:42
    10

    http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/090429_entertainment_headlines_prince_harry_sarah_jessica_parker

    And Fox news…Looks like Harry fever is about to begin..

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 10:44
    11

    And PW will be opening a gallery on May 11th

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/charlottehigginsblog/2009/apr/29/art-art

  • MJ
    April 30th, 2009 13:28
    12

    Too bad they are not yet engaged, this would have been a great event for KM to attened….. oh well, some day.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 13:41
    13

    I think it would have been a nice event for her to go to as well.

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 15:01
    14

    you know it is kind of strange. I know we have already talked about this but I was just thinking about a comment which someone made a couple of days ago about SJP needing to start packaging them as a couple. I felt IMO it was pretty obvious that that was what was going on last year with the three high profile events which Kate attended so why has it all gone quiet now with Kate completely out of sight with very rare sightings??

    Does any one know when the first polo match will be that William will take part in? I wonder if Kate will attend??

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 15:30
    15

    jj that is what was happening last year. It was hard for some people to understand that the Queen acknowledged her and William was letting it be known that their relationship had gotten serious. Now yes everything is very quiet at the moment and I think that is due to William’s training at the moment. But things will start to get exciting once again.

    jj Kate will probably attend the matches. I really think everything has gotten serious now and things are more planned out.

  • green earth
    April 30th, 2009 16:18
    16

    If the Queen ever really stood with Kate and acknowledged her(like she did with Autumn, Peter’s girlfriend at the time) the press would have had quite a money making photo.

  • deacon
    April 30th, 2009 16:30
    17

    Hi Guys There is something odd about Williams training and I dont think his fellow pilots know exactky what is going on He never spends a night on base and does no duties and they cant understand why he only flies once or twice every few weeks and seems to be in london every weekend and also performs royal events two and sometimes three a week at present with more advertised in future Im not sure but does anyone think this training scheme is a way of keeping him and kate out of the papers even if he is seeing her occasionally They dont seem like loving couple should and I know his colleagues dont see much of him He just appears on base in mid morning and leaves in a land rover after about an hour Also there doesnt seem much publicity about his flying now like there used to be

  • Me
    April 30th, 2009 16:41
    18

    I may say by the papers only that William is supposedly living off base and the POW site said that William will still be performing royal duties during the training. Since he is training, weekends are free.

    Theory training in class is like any school.
    Pracitce training has its hours scheduled.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 16:48
    19

    green earth, the Queen did acknowlegde Kate last year but they just haven’t stood together yet. That time will come. Prince Charles has also acknowledged his son’s companion.

    deacon things seem to be going well on William’s training and St. James’s Palace just released some details on the new phases of his helicopter training. News are a on a slow side due to the training. We just not that long ago seen photos of the royal couple skiing so yeah it let us know that everything is going well and just fine in that department.

  • green earth
    April 30th, 2009 17:09
    20

    She stood with Autumn for a reason.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 17:24
    21

    green earth, Peter & Autumn went to Royal Ascot so there was an opportunity for the Queen to be seen with Autumn. William & Kate have yet to attend Ascot but the Queen acknowledged her grandson’s longtime girlfriend by extending an invitation to her for the Garter investiture, service and lunch. Kate also was seated with the royals for Peter & Autumn’s wedding. Those were very important events for the royals and they included Kate. It is a fact that Kate has been acknowledged by the Queen & Prince of Wales. If you look at the pictures at the Garter Parade, The Duchess of Cornwall made sure she stood close to Kate so pictures could be taken. Kate has also developed a friendly relationship with the late Princess of Wales’s sister, Sarah. I’m sure the next move is for Kate and the Queen to be seen next to each other so things can much more clear but the Queen has already acknowledged Kate and she dined with her as well.

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 17:43
    22

    Very true Rman

    I think Kate was seated two or three row behind either the queen or Charles and Camilla at Peter and Autumn’s wedding.. That is extremly important. Both Kate and chelsy were introduced to the Queen at the wedding which is also significant. I just would have liked it to have continued this year…

  • Callie
    April 30th, 2009 18:29
    23

    Rman

    Kate went to the garter service, she did not go to lunch with the royal family after the PW’s garter service.

    JJ

    Kate was seated by Chelsy at Peter and Autumn’s wedding, she was not seated by the Queen or Prince Charles.

  • Jj
    April 30th, 2009 18:56
    24

    Callus you are incorrect on the seating arrangements. The pictures from hellomagazine clearly show Kate sittinga coupke of rows bbehind one of those two sets of people. I’ll have a look when I get home & post a link.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 19:24
    25

    Callie Kate did go to the Garter lunch and the the lunch is before the Garter service. Kate did sit with the royals at the wedding. She and Chelsy sat a couple of rows behind them because they are not members of the royal family but they was seated in their special section. Also Kate sat with Harry for the Garter service.

  • Phoebe
    April 30th, 2009 19:39
    26

    The only people who attend the Garter lunch are the Queen and the members of the Order. Therefore, KM did not attend.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 19:56
    27

    Is Harry in the Philippines.

    http://tinyurl.com/dmqlg5

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 20:11
    28

    Phoebe the Garter lunch is for it’s members, new members and their guest. The lunch is held in The Waterloo Chamber. It’s a very quick lunch because the Queen don’t like long lunches. After the lunch, the Knights & Ladies of the Garter get in their robes so they can start the parade down to St. George’s Chapel.

  • Phoebe
    April 30th, 2009 20:49
    29

    Rman, do you have anything to show that your information is accurate? The monarchy website says that the attendees are the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the members of the Order.

  • Jj
    April 30th, 2009 21:11
    30

    Phoebe

    Just got home have to look for the link to hello still but I am pretty sure Rman is right& Kate attended the lunch. I will look for the article that printed that too.

  • sojourner
    April 30th, 2009 21:46
    31

    Horrible news!

    An attempt was made on Queen Beatrice of Holland on Queen’s Day. Several bystanders killed, other injured.

    http://tinyurl.com/c7q4h5

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 21:49
    32

    Phoebe, I’m pretty sure I’m right on that. I remember watching Windsor Castle: A Royal Year and in the video you could clearly see the Garter Knights and Ladies of the Garter sitting with their guest at the lunch. Kate did attend the lunch but did not sit with William because the seating arrangement are made that you sit next to a person that you don’t know so you can get to know them. William’s guest was his brother and his girlfriend. I have to admit that I did not expect Kate to be there because that is a true royal family official event and it’s a very exclusive club but the message was clear by the Queen inviting Kate.

  • Rman
    April 30th, 2009 21:55
    33

    That was totally horrible what in Holland. I know Queen Beatrix and the royal family was shocked by that incident.

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 22:58
    34

    Just to set the record straight on the wedding seating arrangements below is the first link. On the back right you can see Kate and Chelsy. One row down to the far left in you can see Camilla and Harry..

    http://www.zinio.com/pages/HELLOmagazine/27-May-08/265110555/pg-70

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 23:00
    35

    From another angle you can see that on the same row to the left Camilla Charles and the Queen. So Kate and Chelsy sat one row back from the Queen of England…

  • jj
    April 30th, 2009 23:50
    36

    http://www.zinio.com/pages/HELLOmagazine/27-May-08/265110555/pg-74

    Sorry forgot the link

  • Kat
    May 1st, 2009 00:20
    37

    I have the Hello magazine edition in front of me.It shows three rows of seating. In one picture it shCamilla, then Harry then the Wessexes. There is another couple, a lady, and what appears to be an aisle. Diagonally from the couple and the lady sitting next to the Wessexes on the lasr row is a gentleman followed by Kate and Chelsy. They were definitely seated in the section of the church where the royal family was sitting.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 01:02
    38

    You know, I don’t care what people thought of Hello! taking those pictures but they did a great job capturing the love on that day. I just visited the link jj provided and I have to say, that was a beautiful wedding. Peter & Autumn looked very good and happyly in love, the royals was showing all their teeth and Kate, Harry and Chelsy looked like they had a ball. Thanks jj for the links.

    Yes Kate & Chelsy was seated with the royals and before the service started, Peter went over and chated with them. I can’t wait to see another royal wedding.

  • Jade Falzon
    May 1st, 2009 01:07
    39

    The article about Harry in the Phillipines doesn’t sound accurate – it describes him as being “a tall blonde” which is not him obviously.

  • gracie
    May 1st, 2009 05:08
    40

    Yes, they did sit in the third row, but at the opposite end of the church, behind the boys choir. They were not seated in the area of the immediate royals, although they did sit on the same side at them. I bought the online edition at the time of the wedding and they were definately a distance away from Harry and the Queen. I never thought they would sit among the family anyway as neither were fiancee. Thanks for the link though. I think the Garter was more telling of the relationship than the wedding, because KM was actually standing in Royal enclosure next ot Sophie and Camilla.

  • deacaon
    May 1st, 2009 05:34
    41

    Hi Guys, Im so sorry to say this but how pathetic is it that we discus who has sat where or who has stood by whom. I stood as the best man to my cousin who married the daughter of a Scottish aristocrat distantly related to Royalty. We all had the same tutor at Uni and I had previously met other members of her family.

    However apart from a handshake I do not consider that I am in any way connected or acknowledged by that Gentleman so how is it relevant that by sitting close to anyone indicates acknowledgement by that person.

    I think the position of PP’s wife Autumn was entirely different . Many months prior to an engagement she had been seen with the Queen and was invited to sail with HM over a period of several days thus showing an acknowledgement.
    There is no public indication, to my knowledge, indicating a similar acknowledgement for Kate by HM but that does not mmean they have not met privately.

    This sitting by, standing by, in the same room as, does not constitute acknowledgement and by even saying or assuming this we are being very disrespectful to Kate Middleton. If and when an engagement is imminent I am sure HM will show her plesure in a respectly and decent way.

    Please let us cease this quest to try linking William and Kate by being anything more at present than extremely good friends who have choosen to go out together occasionally for several years , holiday together with family and friends but who are not at this moment in a situation which guarantees marriage.

    This is not an unusual situation and many couples have been in this position but never married. I think we need to accept this and not continue to humiliate Kate Middleton with this continual speculation. If it happens it does if not they will go the way of thousands of similar friendships.

    Please lets just stop.

  • Lisa
    May 1st, 2009 06:08
    42

    Deacon,the last time I looked, this board was a place where people could openly discuss the subject of a British Royal Wedding,hence the site name. You are suggesting that nuptials between Prince William and his girlfriend of 5+ years is not feasible at the moment. If you know that for a fact,then you must be closely connected to the RF or the Middleton family. How lovely if that is the case,however most of us here are not in that position and therefore are basing our opinions on what appears obvious,that at some point,these two will marry. Furthermore I am not sure why you continue to change your poster name to spread this tale. If you find the conversation unpleasant,then I suggest you choose another bookmark that you enjoy more and allow the folks here to indulge in what we enjoy.

  • warren peace
    May 1st, 2009 07:23
    43

    Phoebe is right it tells us on the official Royal website this.

    If there are new Companions of the Order of the Garter, The Queen formally invests them with the insignia at a Chapter of the Order in the Throne Room of Windsor Castle.

    Afterwards The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh entertain the members and officers of the Order at a lunch in the Waterloo Chamber.

    If that is true then i doubt kate was at the Lunch, unless she was made a member of the Garter too. ;)

    I think she was just there to watch the parade outside like the rest of the public and nothing more.

    As for the wedding she was sat with the rest of the Non Royal guests at the wedding.

  • Lisa
    May 1st, 2009 07:31
    44

    warren peace,you statements are incorrect at best. Kate sat inside st georges chapel with the royal family and the non royal guests sat in a outer area on provided chairs. Look at the pictures in Hello. Secondly to suggest that Kate watched the Garter ceremony “like everyone else” is also incorrect,as she was placed standing in between Prince Harry and the Duchess of Cornwall. I hardly think that could be described as watching the parade like everyone else. As for the lunch,we were not there and neither was the press so who really know. It is a mute point,anyway,IMO.

  • warren peace
    May 1st, 2009 08:10
    45

    I have copy of Hello and she was clearly sitting with the non royals during the wedding and not with the Royals.

    As for the Garter thing I suggest you read what the official website says that the Lunch is for members of the Garter only.

    As for the Garter ceremony itself we only saw Kate outside watching what the public saw. The only Royal close to her was Harry.

  • deacaon
    May 1st, 2009 08:34
    46

    Hi Lisa I am sorry that my comments struck a nerve. I too hope that they marry but the overall evidence at present, with William’s uncertainty and outside/inside pressures, and Kate’s obvious dilemma as to be seen or not seen must indicate a problem, whatever that is, and whilst problems exist then their must be a cloud over any long term future.
    I would like to see those problems resolved whatever they are and both then sail happily into the sunset, enjoy their life together before their real work as King and Consort starts later this century.
    I do however feel that the obvious longing for an engagement by many, clouds the real issues which we obviously know nothing about. If there were no issues William and Kate would now have been engaged and married after such a long courtship.
    Whatever these issues are then they are obviously still unresolved and as people continue to talk of an engagement/marriage the more the anti William and Kate supporters knock the couple with taunts and unpleasantness.
    That must be obvious to all

  • Britt
    May 1st, 2009 08:34
    47

    Warren, I’m quite sure Kate was photographed next to not only just Harry, but also Camilla and Sophie at the Garter ceremony.

  • jj
    May 1st, 2009 08:39
    48

    Deacon

    I don’t agree. This is the Royal Family we are talking about and getting that close is not just by accident. They aren’t normal and being seated where Kate was seated was very significant. She could have been seated in the back of church with the real non royals but she wasn’t. She sits one row behind diagonally across from the Queen of England. Discussing that is not disrespectful to Kate Middleton in any way. How you can call it that is very strange…

    Warrenpeace I think you might need to look a little closer to the hellomagazine article as Kate is clearly in the section with the Royal Family. If you can’t see that then there is nothing that we can do to show you but it is pretty clear…

    What is more interesting to note is that Mike Tindall was in the official royal photograph and I really do wonder what is holding up their nuptials as they have appeared to be a done deal for a very long time….

  • curious
    May 1st, 2009 08:53
    49

    Revealed in the Sun:

    Prince Harry hasn’t washed his hair for two years !

    Hahaha…1st May fun…

  • deacaon
    May 1st, 2009 08:54
    50

    jj, I take your point but don’t forget who sat next to Kate at the wedding and look what has happened there.
    They were both present as girl friends of the Princes and as girl friends anything can and has happened

  • First time
    May 1st, 2009 09:32
    51

    Hello! I agree with deacon. All this discussion about Kate closeness to the royal family is early. As we know there are only two ways for William and Kate – to marry when they both are ready enough for this step or to end their romantic relationship calmly. It is not always possible to stay friends after any break up even for mature people though. Anyways let’s try not to make huge plans based on what we can see being just watchers and having no inside information. Because if there won’t be an engagement soon we will be frustrated and if it will happen then so be it and the celebration of the century will make people all over the world joy and happy. Let us wait, and of course we will keep discussing, argueing, agreeing, but don’t incline to details too much. I’m afraid sometimes some of us are getting detectives-like, finding more than it is in gestures, glances, and poses.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 09:39
    52

    Good Morning guys, I just read the recent posts and I don’t know why it is so hard for people to understand that Her Majesty has acknowledged her grandson’s girlfriend. The Prince of Wales & Duchess of Cornwall have acknowledged her as well.

    The Order of The Garter is a very important ceremony and girlfriends are not invited because they are not married to a member of the royal family. The Queen and William used that event to let it be known that Kate is a important person in William’s life, she’s just not his friend but his girlfriend. Some people accepted that message and some people didn’t, mainly due to the fact that no “engagement” came after her acknowledgement. Not to worry about that though, I have a strong feeling that will come. The point is that the Queen has met this young lady and appear to really like her. Now deacon is right, nothing is guaranteed and yes it could all end but so far things between William & Kate seem to be going stronger than ever and that is a good thing. People have to accept that William wants to be with Kate, no one is forcing him to be with her and as a man I can tell you that a man will leave if he wants to. The guy is making a big effort to continue on with his military career, royal duties and his relationship with Kate and I sometimes feel that his efforts are being ignored by many. He is estabishing a close bond with her family by often staying at their house, going on vacations with them and even inviting them to his passing out parade. So this is not all about Kate but it’s about paying attention to William’s efforts and acknowledging them with respect.

  • First time
    May 1st, 2009 10:03
    53

    Rman, you’re right. Noone is forcing William. Simply because it’s impossible. He’s a strong man, and will never except people pushing him that way.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 10:05
    54

    Here is a artical on Harry’s training.

    http://tinyurl.com/d4bq3e

  • jj
    May 1st, 2009 11:16
    55

    Agreed Deacon

    There are no guarantees at all. Chelsy is long gone… She chose to go… We see a very small portion of their lives together and that is really all we have to go on. In other unrelated news it seems as if Prince Carl Phillip and Emma Pernald are on their way back together. They recently went on a ski trip together and attended a wedding together holding hands walking into the church so who knows what will happen with them. The press are saying that they are “friends” and nothing more… for now…

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 11:45
    56

    A nice little video of the Queen & Prince Philip’s visit to Portsmouth.

    http://tinyurl.com/c4zpmm

  • LRose
    May 1st, 2009 13:34
    57

    I would say that the Queen and the rest of the family has made it clear that she accepts KM is PW\’s girlfriend and as important part of his life. Now, whether or not she/they are planning to accept her as a wife…I think that remains to be seen. I am of the small group that is Pro-Kate but still thinks they won\’t marry, and that the longer this goes on the less likely it is. Couples that take more than five years to marry are more likely to divorce so the more time that passes the more dubious I get. Hopefully I will be proved wrong though, and this time next year we will be pouring over photographs of Kate in a white dress!

  • LRose
    May 1st, 2009 13:36
    58

    By the way, if any one is unfamiliar with that statistic let me know and I’ll see if I can find an article for you.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 14:24
    59

    LRose, the one thing I really don’t pay much attention to is statistics. I have a strong feeling that this won’t go on forever and next year, we will see their wedding. I’m just keeping my fingers crossed on that.

  • LRose
    May 1st, 2009 15:13
    60

    Rman, I don’t think stats can prove something either, but felt like I should offer something to back up my feeling that it’s a bad signthey’ve lingered so long. You know how people can jump all over a person on websites like this. Hopefully you are right though that they have a strong happy relationship and want to get married as soon as they can.

  • ked
    May 1st, 2009 15:47
    61

    Hello,

    I think that the statistic mentioned by LRose may well br true but I am sure there are other more important matter that lead to divorce and length of time as friends may or may not be one of hem. What happens between couples before divorce is cotemplated is often known just to the two of them whatever else is published.

    Rman, as you know I do not think we will have a wedding and hence any engagement until PW decides to leave the services for good. KM has too many bad memories of his service career and I do believe she wants him out of it.

    As for PW being a strong person I think the opposite is true and from his and PH’s early days I thing his mother was certain that PH would have grown up to be a better ruler.

    Remember how she said he would blame PH for things he had done, how at Eaton some of the guys thought him sneakey. There have been other small but possibly important happenings that probably gon against him At school and University he was said to be an outstanding swimmer and water polo player but wouldnt attend training sessions. Also he wanted to pack in during his first year at Aberdeen and apparently PC aided by KM persuaded him to change subjects and stay on.

    His relationships with his girl friends were also a bit dubious and he was said to have cheated several times. As a matter of fact wasnt he still with KM when he tried to get with Jessica and with Isabella, both relationships very quickly denied by fathers who were worldly wise.

    All in all I dont think he is a strong person from eveidence we have been made aware of but it is to hoped that he will grow into the kingship he is destined for. Let us just hope that he is strong enough to keep KM with him despite possible objections from hereditary advisors who have had their own family hopes dashed by an outsider (in their world).

    Oh dear I’m going on again but will get back to normality over the coming weeks but Rman I still think we have a long wait for the ring and the cake but hope the wait will be worth while.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 15:59
    62

    We shall see Ked. Maybe I’m crazy or something but my gut feeling is that it won’t be too long before we hear of the announcement and it’s going to come when we least expect it too. I think it was in the Telegraph where it was mentioned that it looks like Kate will be a military wife and I really think that is true. We just have to wait and see what will happen.

  • Clover
    May 1st, 2009 16:43
    63

    Deacon,
    Excellent point about Chelsey and seating arrangements!

  • ked
    May 1st, 2009 17:43
    64

    Hello,

    I have just finished ploughing through a couple of weeks plus messages and someone mentions that CH have announced that a long term fully repairing lease has been arranged for the unfinished house that was said to be the married home for PW and KM.

    Any news?

  • LRose
    May 1st, 2009 17:50
    65

    Ked,
    There is something about your posts that I have always found confusing, and I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind explaining it to me.
    You often paint PW in a rather negative light, (see 61) and also his relationship with KM as rather unhealthy (you’ve claimed he kept his decision to join the RA from her, cheated on her, treated her dismissively in public etc.) If I believed all of these things about him, then I wouldn’t want KM to marry him, I would want her to run for the hills!
    I was just wondering why you have such high hope for the marriage, considering what you believe about PW and his treatment of KM. No hostility here, just curious about the enigma that is Ked.

  • jj
    May 1st, 2009 17:50
    66

    Ked

    Forgive my ignorance but what does that mean. What type of lease is that?

  • gracie
    May 1st, 2009 18:05
    67

    Ked, I have been doing alot of research on Harewood Park Estate. Looking at local civic societies,etc. From what I have found the Georgian Estate has not been built yet and it is a distance away from Home Farm and Grange Farm are. Those are the reconverted barns and stables. Those are for live-in/let, which is the same thing that PC did w/his Highgrove estate. The people that work on the property, let those barns. That is phase 2 of the plan and the Estate Country Home as Craig Hamilton, is in another area of the property. I read it 900-12,000 acres that Duchy owns between Hereford and Ross-on-Wye. He is also has separate properties outside of Harewood Park Estate that he is letting. He is also on the committee involved in restoring St. Mary Church in Hereford, the one he and Camilla recently visitied. That whole town is getting fixed up and one of the roads leading to Harewood, A40 has been closed. There are 3 churches on the property and the only one that has been shown is St. Denis, which has been remodeled into artist studio. The pictures that the media have shown the public of what has been remodeled, is not the Georgian Estate home that Craig Hamilton has designed, that is where they are to live and to pin-point exactly where it will be located is hard. CH has not given those details. IMO I think it might be located in Glewstone, Pencoyd or Llanwarne which are all w/in property boundries. I am guessing that the main house is closer to Harewood End, where the remodeling work that is being let is closer to Ross-on-Wye. Close, but not close enough to walk.

  • Jade Falzon
    May 1st, 2009 18:39
    68

    Thank you for all the excellent information, Gracie. If it is meant to be for Wills and Kate, then perhaps tis is an explanation about a possible wedding time.

  • rosettaresearch
    May 1st, 2009 19:02
    69

    For your weekend fun: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/01/AR2009050102322.html?hpid=moreheadlines

    Apparently, a couple overcome with the romance of the place, had sex on the lawn of Windsor Castle. Her Majesty was in residence at the time.

  • Rman
    May 1st, 2009 19:20
    70

    LRose, for some time now I have been saying that William is not a bad guy and I don’t believe Kate would date a guy that would treat her like a piece of garbage. I don’t even have to know them personally to say that. When I have the time to read some posts on these royal sites, I find myself shaking my head because William & Kate’s relationship always get painted in a bad light. Why does this happen? I don’t know, I have my theories but there are too many to type down. I really think this couple want us all to be patient and bear with them. The time will come, although something is telling me that next year will be it.

  • mapleleaf
    May 1st, 2009 20:35
    71

    I think there are 2 totally different people writing as ked, and the ‘real’ ked is the person that wrote post #64.

    I believe the recent longer posts made under the name ‘ked’ were NOT written by the original ked.

    Again, the spelling is atrocious, and the vernacular or ’speaking style’ is different. As for ‘Deacaon’, that is a person that is trolling this site to start trouble.

    ‘Deacaon’ is one of several persons that come onto the BRW site to deliberately ’shake things up’ as they put it themselves. Please note Deacaon’s spelling mistakes, they show up consistently in all of this person’s posts.

    Whoever it is that’s impersonating Ked also has consistent spelling mistakes, but not necessarily the same mistakes as Deacaon.

    There are at least 2 other people trolling this site just like ‘Deacaon’, and all of them use different User Names.

    So to send a message to those people:

    You’re free to express your opinions just like the rest of us, but don’t try to fool us with fake or false information, or try to stir the pot. In the long run it will just backfire on you, and besides, we’re smart enough not to believe your crap in the first place.

    You have your ‘Kate Hate’ forums, why not stick to those and let us enjoy our civilised and reaonable conversations? And if you just MUST come through here and troll BRW, please at least TRY to appear to be normal, reasonable people and not weirdos.

  • KB
    May 1st, 2009 21:10
    72

    Hello Everyone,

    I was just wondering what everyone’s “love affair” with the British Royal Family is? I am sorry to say, perhaps it is, because I am an American, but most of the members of the royal family seem to be spoiled, priviledged, and pretentious. Not truly knowing what it is like to do a hard day’s work, using charity events as public relations stunts, having a prentntious/entitled attitude in regards to all that they do and others around them, and living off taxpayer’s money while doing little to earn the money, or respect of their people. The monarch is out-of-date and needs to be done away with. I also see it with the people that they surround themselves with (i.e. Kate Middleton, Chelsy Davy, that Guy person etc.).

    Could someone just clear it up for me? That would be wonderful.

    Thanks & have a great day!

    KB

  • moscow
    May 1st, 2009 21:13
    73

    …THANK YOU mapleleaf!! :] Someone needed to say it…

    Also, the link that wondering posted should be deleted. It is just another promotion of one of their hate forums. *rolls eyes*

  • Lisa
    May 1st, 2009 22:56
    74

    Mapleleaf,great post.

    I suppose the hate at the other boards is so overwhelming that the posters feel compelled to travel around and share it.Honestly I am perplexed by the whole thing. These posts are authored by a handful of the same posters who hold such an unhealthy hate for this woman that they feel the need to twist facts to support their opinion. I am thankful that I have never hated someone so badly,especially someone I did not know,that I felt the need to spend my time thinking of new ways to express that hate.

    I don’t know what the outcome of this relationship is. No one here does. The only thing I do know is that I would rather spend my time holding onto something positive even if it goes south in the end,then waste my time spewing hate and trying to incite others.

  • nyme
    May 2nd, 2009 00:28
    75

    Hi everyone, Iam the same nyme but with a different address email cause I post from my countryside home

    excellent post mapleleaf (I told you that Ked was multiple) and for those negative person they have plenty opportunities to check rex features or getty to see kate at the order of the garter ceremony with camille, sophie, harry, and the duchess of kent (in the same area in the background) so why to deny? just to make waves, better to be sarcastic with those deacon and co. The same goes for the wedding, not really behind the queen but in the rows reserved to the royal family (a few steps behind and on the right, I have too a copy of hello dear deacon)

  • BRW
    May 2nd, 2009 01:06
    76

    Hi All,

    Please ignore the trolls – they feed on even being mentioned…

    Also, if you discover that someone else has been posting under your username please contact me via the About page. Posting under other people’s usernames will result in an instant ban.

    http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/about/

    Thanks, Steven

  • daggy
    May 2nd, 2009 03:11
    77

    I have seen posters at “Hate Kate” forums writing that they have been here to post. Those forums remind me of some religious groups where members are brainwashed to believe in the same thing. Their “truth” is only theirs but they believe strongly in it , at least until they get help to leave the group. And they will do anything to spread their “thuth”. They will leave their leafllets on your doorstep if you don’t open your door. I have a feeling a few leaflets have been left on the doorsteps of BRW.

  • BRW
    May 2nd, 2009 03:32
    78

    Yes, I am aware of certain posters on other sites encouraging others to come here and stir up trouble. I have quite a large collection of IP addresses belonging to these individuals.

    Again, my advice is just to ignore them – they are looking for a reaction. When they don’t get one they will lose interest and leave.

    Let’s move the conversation on and not comment on the trolls again, thanks.

  • Lisa
    May 2nd, 2009 05:44
    79

    here is a little item that relates slightly to our Royal wedding whenever it is announced.

    Additionally,Robin Nunns book,William and Kate:A Modern romance,scheduled for release yesterday,appears delayed as my copy has not shipped yet and Barnes and Noble has it listed as “backordered” As I have stated before,I believe this book will accompany the announcement due to it’s exclusive content. I am keeping my eyes on it.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5grngV_dCpayZdGLqygDrmsUThNlg

  • Guest
    May 2nd, 2009 06:33
    80

    Mapleleaf, GREAT post. I have been ranting about this here for a long time now and felt the outsider for it. But I’m so glad to know now that everyone is aware of the problem.

    BRW, glad you’re on it!!

  • curious
    May 2nd, 2009 08:48
    81

    You are pretty cliquish in this forum. Don’t forget freedom of speech – one of the main features of the Internet.

    From the Guardian:

    Prince William has taken the unusual step of using his solicitor to force the Daily Star to apologise for mistakenly claiming that he had “wrecked” a £2m RAF plane during pilot training.

    It really is UNUSUAL to royal family to react to the newspaper stories, and for me, William looks like quite sensitive to criticism.

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 09:03
    82

    Lisa my order was delayed as well.

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 09:06
    83

    You know, I didn’t know that William & Kate have the same solicitor Gerrard Tyrrell of law firm Harbottle & Lewis.

  • Lisa
    May 2nd, 2009 09:14
    84

    Rman,did you order your book from Amazon?

  • Kat
    May 2nd, 2009 09:14
    85

    curious,
    There is freedom of speech. So we can use it to write in support of Kate. I do happen to think that there are people who under estimate the power of the love and therefore the bond between William and Kate. It is this that leads William to trust and be confortable around her. It is this bond that lets Kate know that they will get married. If Kate were not sure, I think that she would likely have started dating someone else. Are we a clique? If many of us support this couple then I guess we are. Many of up wish for them all the best. I do want them both to be happy. I really don’t appreciate those people who are negative and want to tear down people. Freedom of speech, it works both ways.

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 09:32
    86

    Yeah, I ordered it from Amazon and after I read your post, I checked my email and they told me that the order was delayed. I had to approve the delay and they will try to get me the copy later.

    Kat I agree. When you look at it, it do look like we are in a clique. Never been part of a clique before.

  • Iscariot
    May 2nd, 2009 09:39
    87

    The Robin Nunn book is nothing but more fluff, I’m sure. It will be remaindered soon, along with all the other “not yet princess” books. The authors just hope one is silly enough to waste money on ‘em in the meantime.

  • gracie
    May 2nd, 2009 09:45
    88

    Interesting that the books are delayed. I hope it’s for positive reason’s and it makes sense to me that Nunn would want it to come out if an engagement announcement is coming. Does it give you a time frame of how long it’s backordered to?

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 10:05
    89

    Gracie, no they just told me that the book is being delayed and will ship it to me when they can.

  • Kat
    May 2nd, 2009 10:15
    90

    The interesting thing about the Robin Nunn book is that I reserved a copythrough Barnes & Noble. It was either Monday or Tuesday that I went there to get somethings. I check on the status of the book. It was confirmed to arrive on Friday May 1st. I asked if it could be sent to my home. Because the book waa on its way they cou

  • Lisa
    May 2nd, 2009 10:26
    91

    I honestly believe that due to what is likely very private photos that they don’t want released until after an announcement is made,that this book cannot be released yet. The burning question is:what is the delay? As per usual.there are more questions then answers and we are left to speculate.

    Rman,I too ordered through Amazon and have not received any notice of a delay.

  • Lisa
    May 2nd, 2009 10:36
    92

    kat,have they actually charged you for the book yet? Amazon has not charged me.

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 11:30
    93

    No at Amazon they will not charge you until the item has been shipped. But before they ship it, you can cancel it at anytime. Why the delay? I have no idea.

  • Kat
    May 2nd, 2009 11:35
    94

    Sorry about the interruption-many things happened at once- Barnes & Noble did not charge me for the book. They said that they would email me once it came into the store. However, they saidthat I could not change my delivery to my home because it was I thought that they said enroute. They confirmed that the book had been reserved but I could not change delivery places. At that time , I asked if the book was still coming out on May 1st, and they said yes.

  • ked
    May 2nd, 2009 12:10
    95

    Hello,

    It seems that “as careless talk costs lives” and certain conversations have been overheard locally I think that I shall discontinue my postings for a time.

    Perhaps I will come out of hibernation if an engagement is anounced prior to 2014 and apologise to Rman ,otherwise I’ll say bye bye.

  • First time
    May 2nd, 2009 14:35
    96

    Good evening! Ked, though I wasn’t always agree with you I enjoyed every comment made by you here. I don’t know if it’ll be an announcement, but hope you will share your deep and interesting thoughts about another royal news with other posters and readers of BRW site.

  • Kat
    May 2nd, 2009 14:37
    97

    Ked,
    I don’t know what you are talking about, but
    I do know that you and several people at heart want what is best for William and Kate. If their destiny is to be together a lot of us will be extremely happy. If not? The bottom line is that we are just a drop in the bucket of internet speculation about them. I think that is why they try to keep a low profile. When they appear in public everyone goes nuts. We all like to analyze everything they do. We might
    get some clue as to where their relationship is going. They are both great people. It is only natural. The only thing that is sad is those people who go negative and say ugly things about people(both William and Kate as well as other posters). I do have to say I hope that you come out of hibernation very quickly due to an announcement.

  • KB
    May 2nd, 2009 15:17
    98

    I can see your point of view when it comes to freedom of speech, and supporting the couple, but if a woman is willing to place her life on hold for seven years, then she is not a worth while woman in her own right. It is sad that her “career” is working for her parents when it is obvious that she is capable of doing something more worthwhile. She has dug her claws into PW, and because of his father’s mistake he does not want to let her go, and therefore she will overlook any discretions (i.e. waiting, infidelity etc.). When it comes right down to it, everybody knows the ugly truth of the royal family, and people like them; social climbers, rich snobs etc. They are a sad lot of people, and while being in the public eye is a difficult life and the royal family (born into it) deals Ok with it, they could hold themselves to at least somewhat of a standard like a good bunch of society, whereas actors, singers (court it) to a certain extent.

    If you wish to support them, then I commend you, but what others are trying to get across (not to be vicious by any means) is that people must realize that this family and those who “hang on” to them get away with anything and everthing that others would be persecuted (for lack of a better word at the moment) for doing, participating in etc. It is sad, and somebody needs to stand up and give these people a real lesson in life.

    Have a great day!

    KB

  • daggy
    May 2nd, 2009 15:27
    99

    KB
    You don’t understand why so many people have a “love affair” with the Royal Family. I have a problem understanding that you, living in America and not really having to deal with the Royal Family at all, can have such a “hate- affair” with Kate Middleton. I don’t see why her existence should bother you the least.

  • Clover
    May 2nd, 2009 15:56
    100

    daggy,
    In life there are just some experiences some people will never understand and maybe the whole royalty thing is something you may never understand.

    Do you have other interests?

  • Hale
    May 2nd, 2009 18:03
    101

    Hi, I’ve managed to wrestle the computer away from my husband in order to post before I go on holiday tomorrow.

    With regards to W & K. There is no problem about the RF accepting Kate. The problem is William. Never forget, that it was on the cards last year that he would take up Royal duties full time. Then in about September, William out of the blue announced he would be training with the SAR. In my opinion this was a tactical ploy, not to avoid marrying Kate, but to avoid becoming a full time royal. Remember, William hates the limelight, and hates the press even more. He has yet to overcome these fears.

    As for marriage, William himself said he would not marry before 28/30. I believe he will hold to this.

    As for the plethora of books being published, it should be remembered that these books were written on the back of William taking up full time royal duties, and it was also expected he would marry Kate. Therefore, I happen to think that the hold up of the publications is not because of an announcement this year, but due to some re-writes.

    Sorry if I’ve thrown a spanner in everyone’s works.

    Furthermore, with regards to the posts of Ked. I was under the impression that Ked doesn’t return from his holiday until tomorrow. Which is when I’m flying to Italy. Consequently, I agree with Mapleleaf, (nothing gets past her) all the above posts are by imposters. Bad one’s. One’s who got tired from posting on the ‘Pampers’ site and needed to gnaw at something other than their teething rings.

    As for this hoo ha about lunching at the Garter ceremony, I think this is prompted by the article Rman scanned in for us.

    Posters at ‘Pampers’ are reading it as if it were one of the ‘Gnostic Gospels.’ That alone denotes their intelligence.

    Anyway, I’m off to sunny Italy tomorrow. No, I do not have a ‘Blackberry.’ So if my name is used, take it as an imposter.

    All the best.

  • Hale
    May 2nd, 2009 18:30
    102

    Almost forgot. One of the imposters got all their info wrong. William wasn’t seeing Jecca Craig whilst he was going out with Kate.

    Jecca Craig was William’s girlfriend before Kate. Jecca was also Williams guest of honour at his Windsor African themed birthday party.

    Why Ked is being singled out like this is beyond my comprehension.

    I hate bullies, and make no mistake Ked is being bullied.

    Dear Steve (BRW) consider this a formal complaint.

  • atx
    May 2nd, 2009 18:57
    103

    All this commotion and paranoia about imposter posters is a real turn off for new members. I thought anyone could post here. No one is going to be on the same exact wave-length. There are shades of gray in peoples thoughts. Looking at older postings from articles there is a lot of hostility from “old posters.” I think the only person here who is openly welcoming is Rman. Thanks, by the way, Rman. I may not agree all the time, but at least you are optomistic, have conviction, and your posts are always interesting to read.

  • BRW
    May 2nd, 2009 19:04
    104

    Yes, I agree atx.

    If anyone has an issue with incorrectly attributed comments then please contact me via the details on the About page;

    http://www.britishroyalwedding.com/about/

    For the record – all ked’s recent comments have been made by the real ked…

  • bluefire
    May 2nd, 2009 21:33
    105

    when will the book will publish the kate latest book

  • Phoebe
    May 2nd, 2009 22:25
    106

    I wonder if the delay in the Robin Nunn book has been occasioned by a threat of legal action by the Middletons.

  • LRose
    May 2nd, 2009 23:19
    107

    Curious, I too found it odd that there was such a strong reaction by PW to the Daily Star article. But it was his reacting to THIS article that I found odd; he’s been criticized for lots of things in the past, in addition to publication of some embarrassing pictures of him, but apparently THIS struck a nerve. I thought the article, once you got past the ridiculous headline, gave a realistic picture of the incident. They said no real damage was done, right? And wasn’t there even a quote from a guy saying, “More experienced pilots have often made the same mistake,” or something along those lines? I can’t see anything in the apology article that wasn’t in the original, and yet the lawyers had them reiterate it as if those things had never said it in the first place. Don’t think I’m defending the DailyStar; I’m merely saying that I didn’t see the apology as particularly necessary; people have said worse things in the past without lots of drama.

    I must say I don’t think this reaction is indicative of PW being sensitive in general. He seems to take most of his privacy invasions “like a man” as they say. (Remember, this is a man who has been photographed peeing, and I don’t remember any apologies from the media that chose to publish those photos!) I think this reaction shows that being a pilot is something PW is proud of, and therefore he bristles at any implication that he isn’t a good one. Perhaps it’s an area of his life where he can just be himself and he can receive accolades for his accomplishments without it having anything to do with being a Prince. That would explain his being overly protective of his image as a pilot.

  • BRW
    May 2nd, 2009 23:27
    108

    Hi bluefire,

    The latest book about Kate, William & Kate: Celebrating a Royal Romance, was due to be released on the 1st May but it appears that it has been delayed.

  • Rman
    May 2nd, 2009 23:50
    109

    Everything seems to be more serious now and I think this new team have a lot to do with it. Everything is just very calmed and controlled.

  • LRose
    May 3rd, 2009 00:15
    110

    Rman, are you saying you think the reaction to the DailyStar article has more to do with the new PR team than PW’s personal feelings, or are you referring to another post? Sorry, I can’t tell. : )

  • curious
    May 3rd, 2009 01:19
    111

    Thank you LRose for your analysis about Daily Star article and William’s reaction. I wanted to say exactly the same but can’t express myself because of my primary school English.

  • bluefire
    May 3rd, 2009 03:05
    112

    i think ph has a look alike in Philippines and a like to say that brad and Angie that they come in Philippines but they are not

  • sojourner
    May 3rd, 2009 09:26
    113

    Gracie (re post #67)

    I was impressed by all the research you include in this post — this is the kind of reporting I wish we could find in the dailies!

    But I was confused by the references to “CH” and then of the architect “Craig Hamilton.” I know you were responding to ked, who used CH in his text. Does CH refer to “Clarence House,” or was it an abbreviation of Craig Hamilton?

  • Rman
    May 3rd, 2009 09:46
    114

    Good Morning guys, LRose I’m talking about everything. The way William & Kate only make a few appearence’s, we see less and less of William going to his favorite hotspots. To me, everything seem to be more controlled and serious now.

  • Rman
    May 3rd, 2009 09:47
    115

    LRose I agree with you though, William wants his career to be taken seriously and so he reacted in a serious manner to DailyStar.

  • gracie
    May 3rd, 2009 10:11
    116

    Usually when I type CH it means Clarence House, hopefully I did not confuse the two as I was writing fast!

    Hale, did not get a chance to say have fun in Almalfi, eat lots of food- gnocchi is very good in that area. Go to Sorrento too, very close to Almafi and has the inlaid wood and lace.

    What do ya’ll think about the DS saying PW going to have to kick KM out? I know that they usually are wrong, but that does not sound good.

  • Pretty
    May 3rd, 2009 12:31
    117

    That story in the Daily Star is absolute rubbish, the reporter will have to issue an apology.

    KM lives in Berkshire 7 days a week, I see her almost every day and night. Fed up of newspapers writing false stories.

  • sojourner
    May 3rd, 2009 13:24
    118

    Pretty (and Gracie),
    I thought the story could not possibly be true. I do hope that parties affected demand a retraction.

    But now you have me curious… In what context do you see her? I am not clear if the family runs the business literally from home, or just close by.

  • Iscariot
    May 3rd, 2009 14:06
    119

    It had been stated months ago that William and Henry would share the off-base house once Henry arrived in Shawbury for his next sector training. Now some months later we are to believe William is “horrified” to have to share it with his little brother.

    Besides, it’s rather difficult to evict someone who does not live there in the first place.

    The DS “article” is rubbish in more ways than one.