Britain’s Prince William is set to announce his engagement within the next few months, according to well-informed sources.
The future king – who made his first public appearance with girlfriend Kate Middleton for five months at a polo match over the weekend – is odds-on with bookmakers to propose to Kate by the end of this year after receiving a sudden rush of knowledgeable bets.
William Hill spokesman Rupert Adams said: “Almost all the best suggest that the announcement will come in the next few months.” Bookmakers have now slashed their odds from 4/6 to 1/2.
William has previously said he doesn’t want to get married until he’s at least 28 – a birthday he will celebrate next June.
The news comes days after William and Kate were pictured looking smitten with each other after the prince had taken part in a polo match in Berkshire. (via AHN)
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I think even us huge W/K supporters are getting tired of these articles about a pending engagement.
Yes, Lisa. Imagine how W/K feel.
Vanity Fair is doing a Best Dressed list where we can vote. Kate Middleton is on it (2nd page) – everyone should go and vote for KM.
Good Morning my royal peeps.
Yes we all are really getting tierd of it but it’s good to hear anything positive about them.
Kd, I did vote and was a bit shocked to see so many high profile names on that list.
Can’t find the page…
Here is the link Me,
http://tinyurl.com/cuk7n3
Kate’s name is on the second page.
hmm…hmmm…this news are fool again !! william Hill always said that several moths ago and didn’t work !! this is just his imagination he..he..maybe Wills & kate just laugh hear this, i guess
Ooooh, a late fall engagement announcement, a wedding in late June (after his 28th birthday) or August would be great. A nice long engagement to pump up the merchandising. Oh that would be so great.
You are right rosettaresearch, that would be great. We just have to wait and see what will happen. It’s going to come.
If I had a penny for every time… Hey, maybe we can start a charity that way! Charge the dailies for every time they have been wrong. I bet it would amount to something
Now, if they are right, well… they’ll be cheer and good will all around!
I dont think William is keen to marry Kate, if he is, he could have make the announcement way before the press nicknamed Kate, Watie Katie.
I dont understand why a 27 yr old, university graduate with honors, does not have a stable job to be proud of and still living with her parent’s trust fund. Whatever! Kate is not a good example to young girls.
Well…he did say when he’s in his 30s.
So we might have about 2 or 3 more years before we can held him accountable…being excited or depressed about his engagement with maybe Catherine.
Also there’s nothing wrong with Kate or anyone living with their parent’s trust fund. That’s the hold purpose of a trust fund.
Beside, we don’t really have 100% information of her life to say that she doesn’t have a stable job. Or to even judge how proud she is of it.
Since Kate never gave an interview of her life… information of her is based on third party… that is not truly reliable.
As I probably have said long time ago…
The press tells us stories that only profit them. The juicier the better, as long it’s not to extreme, so we can see it as reality.
Lol. :-0
Vanity Fair left off Prince Charles and Prince William on the best dressed men’s list. What a big oversight!
OK let wait for announcement of engagement.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/endorsement/prince-charles-best-dressed-man-030609
Jade, a month ago PC was declared the best dressed man in the world.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News-By-Industry/ET-Cetera/Prince-Charles-is-worlds-best-dressed-man-/articleshow/4227865.cms
Google it, you may find more than 20 pages, sites reporting it.
I think engagement will coincide with his 27th birthday; with October wedding so crap government will give bank holiday Octobrer for wedding
I don’t know about the birthday time line. The weather is not too pretty in october and it rains a lot in england (I’m assuming your not from there Jane). We just have to keep our fingers crossed that it happens at all this year. It could realisticly not happen until February next year…
For something important like Prince William’s wedding, there won’t be a fall or winter wedding. They need to have a summer wedding to have a bettr chance at nice weather. We don’t want people standing in the rain and cold to watch the procession to the church.
Why can not it be a fall wedding? Only because of a possible bad weather? Princess Elizabeth’s and Prince Philip Mountbatten’s wedding was in November 1947.
Lets just keep our fingers crossed that we will at least get an engagement soon. It will most likely be a summer 2010 wedding.
Vanity Fair also left the Queen of the list. I forget the name of the Queen’s dresser, but I happen to think the Queen for her age dresses better than she did say 25 years ago.
Tamara Grovenor and Hugh van Custem got married in November too. I know it was fall because she had long sleeves trimmed in white fur and around the collar.
Hi guys,
I have come to the conclusion that we will get the engagement when we least expect it. I get a headache trying to logically figure it out. I am thrilled to know they are together and appear to be doing well. I am taking Rmans advice and staying patient and positive,
That’s all we have to do, stay patient, positive and keep those fingers, arms, toes, legs and eyes crossed. Stop if it begins to hurt.
How about we wait and be surprised.
July always brings tourists UK particularly with euro/pound
Weather good October; heard of Indian Summand it would bring more tourists London who would assist economy.
K and W would both be 27 which would be compromise bearing in mind earlier comments from him regarding age.
One thing for sure they will marry sooner rather than later
I found several pictures of Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and and Sophie with their children visiting
the Royal Windsor Horse Show on May 16, 2009
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/87404633/Getty-Images-News
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/87404701/Getty-Images-News
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/87402875/Getty-Images-Entertainment
Nice pix
Morning,
Thanks for the pictures Mathilde. Those two kids look just like Edward to me. It was nice to see them out.
jane I agree, it’s going to be sooner rather than later.
I hope you guys are right. The more I read around the internet,the more depressed I get. next year looks bleak because of the elections in the UK.
I am afraid of they don’t marry this year,we will be waiting until 2011. That would just suck.
The wedding can be held after the elections but yes I think next year will be it.
Remember, be patient and positive Lisa. I have read around the net too and last Sunday wasn’t the best day for many who was hoping that Kate had been dumped but they know now that’s not the case. Let’s just stay patient & Positive and hope that next year will be the year that we hoped for.
Lisa, please don’t be despondent, never forget what William himself said, 28/30 is the age he reckoned he would marry. Next year William will be 28.
I suspect the wedding will be held at St George’s Chapel, Windsor. The announcement being made after the elections.
It is not unusual for Royals to marry in Autumn.
What happened last Sunday to upset you so? I was away.
When are the elections?
I think someone on another site said that the elections are in the beginning of June but I have a feeling that these two will not wait that long because of some elections, they will walk down that isle in the summer of 2010. I just have that feeling.
Poor Lady Louise, I hope she wears glasses privately as she has a lazy eye. My son has the same thing and he has had to wear bifocles to correct it. I know they must be doing something for it , as most children can’t see well left unattended. She is so lovely.
Interesting article about the book
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5335203/Kate-Middleton-book-launch-cancelled-amid-much-mystery.html.
Looks like the lawyers are not messing around.
Now that is very interesting jj, thank you for the link. Now this makes me think that the book William & Kate: Celebrating a Royal Romance has something to do with the royals and it’s due to be released for an occasion.
Makes me think Robin Nunn also received a couple of letters from Harbottle & Lewis.
http://tinyurl.com/qmskau
Watch this video. William and Harry make an appearance. I thought Harry’s reaction was really funny.
Its Prince Charles’ Rainforest Project.
http://tinyurl.com/oupgtc
Small article in the Sunday Mirror about Chelsy Davy.
** BRW – fixed link **
I don’t think the link works Hale but I went over to the mirror and read the article. Interesting if true…. Harry has been rumored to have cheated on Chelsy several times so I wonder if it is true if it was the straw that broke the camels back. I wonder who with….
I think mandrake was quite loose lipped in this article, both suggesting that Kate is using her “increasing influence” and calling her “our future queen”, not even “possible future queen”.
Ms Joseph picked a place that Kate and William frequent and probably have working relationship with the owners who might not wish for them to take their business elsewhere. Who would you rather be seen at your establishment? Claudia Joseph or Prince William/Kate Middleton?
Additionally,I still maintain that Robin Nunn’s book *is* authorized which is why it is not out yet. He has traveled with the queen for years and I find it hard to imagine the man,a well respected photographer, putting his whole career on the line for a tabloid-like unauthorized book about Kate Middleton.
Right Robin Nunn wouldn’t jeopardize his career and relationship with the royals like that. I think his book has more meaning to it.
Oh Hale, St. George’s is too small for this Royal Wedding. It was fine for the Duke and Duchess of Wessex. They had a smaller, more intimate wedding. Prince William and Ms. Middleton will have heads of state coming, Royals from other countries, etc. It will be either Westminster or St. Paul’s. Neither of which has good connotations for Prince William. Any other really big churches?
I don’t think the wedding will be in July (his parents). If the elections are June, there will everyting with the elections, and installing a new government. So, look for August 2010.
I am not surprised that Kate was unhappy about the Claudia Joseph book as it was completely unauthorized and Joseph now admits that Kate’s friends were asked not to cooperate with her on this book. I think it is a great thing that these lawyers have finally been showing their teeth in regards to Kate and the press. It has been a long time coming,IMO. They needed to get it under control now to set a standard for the future. Very smart.
I’m not that surprised either. Kate is the longtime companion to Prince William, even though she may not have a ring on her finger yet, but she now has some power.
Hello everyone,
the wedding can’t be at St. George’s (too small for this Royal Wedding). The wessex wedding was not too far from diana’s death (I think the following year) it was not possible at this time to do otherwise, the royal family was in a “bad period” somethin low was acceptable. And for william, he has not the choice, it will be st paul cathedral (for all the heirs), westminster is reserved for the children monarch who are not heirs
Been looking at 2009 diary.
W birthday on a Sunday; then the Monday Wimbledon commences
Could it be announced week before his birthday so Kate and William join Queen in carriage at Ascot?
Besides expenses discussed unelected Brown was a small wedding being discussed for October at Windsor in October?
I do believe the courtiers would prefer a large wedding. It always raises the profile of the royals.
I think it all depends on whose elected. If the Tory’s are the next government, then I believe we will have a large wedding. If Labour are returned, then I believe it will be at St George’s.
When Charles & Di married, we were in recession then, but it was a Tory government.
The thing to remember here also is London are due to host the Olympics in 2012. Therefore, they may not want the extra expense of a royal wedding. Alternatively, they could use it as a sort of dress rehearsal for security purposes.
I forgot, sorry about the link to the Sunday Mirror not working. Here’s the link.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/05/17/chelsy-puts-boot-in-over-cheat-harry-115875-21365148/
Can someone tell me if the rainforest link worked.
Our Monarchy are far more capable of staging Royal wedding in matter of months than that lot putting on Olympic games that are costing taxpayers far too much money in vile part of derelict London which is taking years and for what. You only have to look at Wembley who staged olympics in 1948
No relevance to Kate and William who met at Uni and fell in love; and we all want to see fairytale ending and the relationship on legal footing
Will set better example than Charles and Camilla etc etc
Morning guys,
The government knows that the next big royal wedding will be William’s and they are prepared to handle that. Harry’s may be smaller. We just have to wait and see the wedding plans unfold but we still have to get over that engagement mountain first. I’m sitting tight for this.
I think we have touched on this subject before but I am beginning to believe the current strained relationship between HM and Mr Brown may be standing in the way of this announcement.
What about an engagement/wedding originally scheduled for this year was delayed in the expectation of imminent elections which the PM refuses to call?
Well those two better sit down somewhere and get this announcement out there. Sometimes we have to put our differences to aside and think about the people involved. In my opinion, Kate deserves to be formally recoginzed in a big way. I just hope it happens soon.
You know, maybe the reason for the apparent press blackout is just that. Things may be on hold due to this governmental crisis. Rman,I totally agree with you. Kate has been the “girlfriend” for long enough. I think William is beginning to see this which is why we saw his desire to hide her from the press when they are in public eased last weekend at the polo match. Hopefully this trend continues. I have a bit of a marketing backround and I can tell you that a royal wedding will be very good for the economy if done properly. It may even take some of the negative gare away from Mr Brown and his croonies for a bit.
I’m just glad that all the negative press has stopped.
Lisa you are right, I hope this new trend will continue.
Sorry guys I just don’t see any evidence at all that these two are engaged or getting married.
William will have to let us know what is going to happen with Miss Middleton and he has been SILENT.
I know how much everyone wants to believe that the engagement and wedding are inevitable, but I do not see any movement towards that goal by Prince William.
It is a mystery and one not easily solved without direct input from the Prince!
Well Clover, we just have to wait and see.
Clover,I cannot disagree with your comments. While the pictures from last weekend made me feels better in knowing that the pair are still a couple,I too have some doubts as to when things will be formalized.
As Rman has so wisely stated, all we can do is wait and watch.
Clover
No way would Wills holiday with future in laws or have car parked in their drive on Kates birthday.
Kate is obviously under Palace instructions to hide at her parents without glaring cameras. Sure she is normal 27 year old and if she did not know she had a future as our Queen in years to com with Wills would have gone away years ago.
They go on exotic hols and are photographed when they want tpo be
Just wait for Ascot ine June
Chocolates!!!!!!!!
Jane,
You have said absolutely nothing that PROVES Prince William and Kate Middleton are engaged and are getting married.
I will wait to hear it from Prince William he is the only one who can make this happen. Until then we have nothing concrete about a royal wedding.
Hale what does chocolates mean in this context?
It would be nice to see a second royal wedding next summer, but I just get the feeling that Prince Charming may be dithering just like Charlie. There are plenty of instances pointing to Wills indecisiveness.
If it’s going to happen why can’t they announce their engagement in the Summer and have the ceremony the following Summer? Just because the engagement comes doesn’t mean a wedding has to follow 3 to 5 months later.
atx,
We have to wait on Prince William. He will let us know what he plans to do with Kate, waiting is really all we have.
atx, we just have to wait and see what will happen. I get the feeling that it’s coming.
I know we are all getting very tierd of the wait but that’s all we can do is wait. Keep fingers crossed.
You guys are great on this site. Just remember to ignore the Trolls. I wonder if Kate is staying out of site b/c the establishment feels she needs to learn the protocol of the royals and maybe prepare her for life in the public eye and the fact her life will never really be her own anymore. Must remember she did not grow up in this type of lifestyle (unlike PW). Just a thought.
I agree Clover,
Everyone builds this situation up as though it is all or nothing. Maybe he is just a regular guy who enjoys female companionship now and then, but otherwise is living moment to moment like the rest of us as our lives unfold. Everyone acts like he should know exactly what to do. Maybe he himself doesn\’t know and has to just work it out with time and thought.
On a different subject, Pretty and Redlady, I think you have both indicated that you know or have been in the same vicnity as KM. Can either of you shed any light on what her voice sounds like, or what kinds of opinions she has, or interests she has beyond what we know of already, such a fashion, skiing, ect. Redlady, what do people who work for her family say about them. Any insights? Just curious.
Maybe Ginger.
This absolute 100% pure speculation. The current government difficulties have caused a postponement in a long awaite announcement. However, this scandal could be HUGE. Which could result in a no-confidence vote and the calling of early elections. Parliament dissolves in the next month or so. Elections are held. The new government is installed. They do what they have to do for the announcement. We get the announcement in the Fall just when the weather is turning dreary. This brightens everyone up. Merchandising commences in time for Christmas (this may be pushing it, but hey those tea towels are probably ready to go). We through the winter on all the speculation of what the dress will be like, what music will be picked, will she promise to obey, etc. Then in June, right after his birthday, we have a beautiful spectacular wedding on a warm sunny day.
Well, that will keep me going for awhile.
*Yawn* A little exciting news would be great though, even if it’s not an engagement announcement. The wait is nerve-racking. It seems like all of the articles, besides polo last weekend and the Windsor Horse Show, have been the same articles from previous years, months, ect. just recycled.
Good call on the merchandising, Rosetta, you’re right about the build up too. Something nice to keep everyone’s minds off the abysmal state of the economy, government, ect.
I would put it this way, if it isn’t palace instruction to lay low before the wedding, she needs to get out and quick. The fact that she has to hide away means that she isn’t living her life she is living a life of a hermit with her family. It is really realy sad that a girl of that age will let a man do this to her. Both of them give me a headache. If there are no promises which is just as likely as their are promises, well, then, she knows what she should do, she just isn’t doing it
I totally agree SG.
I think William & Kate are on their way down that isle and will give us the news when it’s due to come out.
I see Andrea Casiraghi posed with his girlfriend, Tatiana Santo Domingo in Vanity Fair magazine. Now it would wonderful if William & Kate did something like that. I sometimes wish they would do something like that.
http://tinyurl.com/osr5kx
I don’t get why everyone says Kate needs to get out or she is hiding at her parents. Maybe, she just realized that there is more to life than going out and getting drunk at clubs every night. Sure, it’s fun for a while, but after a bit, you start going “oh gee, which ladies room will I puke in tonight?” The excitement really begins to pale.
So, maybe she just chose to stay home and concentrate on the family business. She just decided to grow up and not be a party girl all the time. She works during the week, then visits Prince William on weekends for some quiet time together.
Being out and about doesn’t necessarily mean partying. Why not do what many women do and go shopping, go to restaurants, or movies with your friends? It is strange that we never see her doing anything unless William is in tow.
I don’t understand why people think Kate is in hiding. Just because she isn’t papped everyday, doesn’t mean Kate isn’t doing the things other girls do at her age.
Take those pics recently of her and members of her family. The pics where James is endeavouring to emulate William. Those pics didn’t appear in the British tabs. Why not? Because they were an invasion of privacy. If William had been with them, then the press would’ve been within there rights to take those snaps. But because William wasn’t with the Midds, then those snaps could be termed as an invasion of privacy. In other words, except for the odd foreign pap, the terse agreement with the press is holding up.
But those pics did prove one thing, which it appears everyone is taking for granted, and that is Kate is not living out her life in a nunnery. She is out and about enjoying herself.
I bet if Kate was constantly appearing in the press, then certain posters would then accuse her of ‘courting the press.’
I personally am not expecting an announcement till next year. If one comes sooner, then believe me, I shall finally have good reason to buy that hat, and consume the largest magnum of the finest champagne I can afford.
Meanwhile, we all just have to get used to the fact that things have changed. Kate prefers a lower profile. It is to her benefit.
W & K move at their own pace. We just have to relish the smaller tidbits that come our way. The days when they were seen out constantly clubbing are over. They are both keeping a lower profile, except when William is attending official duties.
They prefer it that way.
I should also like to remind others there is a recession here. It would be damaging for both W & K to be seen going to nightclubs and living high when all around people are having their homes reposessed and losing their jobs. Not exactly good for their image.
That, in my opinion, is one of the reasons they are both keeping a lower profile.
Very true Hale.
I really like that they are keeping a low profile, it keeps the crappy tabloid stories down.
Hale,
So true!
I agree with you Rman. I’m very glad she is laying low and going about her life out of camera glare. I love this couple, but I think their engagement is still several years off — I think they won’t get engaged until after the 2012 Olympics.
my point wasn’t what you tried to make it,
my point was that the ONLY reason Kate should be hiding out is IF she has a commitment. If she doesn’t she needs to bail and quick. To do all of this for for a guy that most likely cheats and doesn’t commit after 8 years, special situation OR not, well, i know what I would do.
I think that IF Kate were not hiding she would be seen by people, stories would be leaked a la Dean. Kate is spending time with her family like she is 12. Staying at their house, working at their business (instead of independently going to school). And she is only ever seen with them OR with William and friends (and rarerly)
Rman I agree that is the only happy ending in this story. Will making an honest woman of her. If he doesn’t it will well and truely show how clueless she has been acting and how cruel William really is.
I’m very glad this couple remains out of sight. For many reasons.
I stated this last year that 2009 would be very different and I do believe that William has made a commitment to her. Her laying low and showing up with William from to to time allows the negative press to die down and now we see that things are cool, calm and collective. This couple knew that we was going to make a fuss over their appearence last weekend, mainly do to the fact that we hadn’t seen them in awhile and on some royal site it was said that the two was done. Guest I agree but I really think it’s going to come sooner and next year will be it. I really think Kate will be William’s wife and sitting next to him to help celebrate the Queen’s Diamond Jubliee. I just have my fingers crossed on this.
I don’t think anyone said they should go to nightclubs and live the high life, Hale. I think everyone is in agreement that that would be detrimental to their public images right now.
I think people need to stop digging out the menial negative commentary and misinterpreting it or at least do someone the courtesy of reading their comments thoroughly.
it better come next year
Rman if it doesn’t every day she looks more and more of a fool and if no marriage in the end, she will have wasted her young life away.
And he will be the cad of the century.
This has the possibility of going on until they are 60, look at charles and camilla
agreed atx
there is so much she could be doing.
so much.
i really am worried about her and her mental health. no i am not saying she is crazy, i just don’t think this is healthy.
SG, totally on board with you.
If she did involve herself with more charities and found a niche outside of the professional life her parents are giving her she would be respected more. (Yes, I realize some people are going to bad-mouth her and say, “She’s using her regal connections.”) At least then she would be helping many people. You can’t really complain too much about someone who is trying to make a difference. She has the potential.
She deserves respect, but you can only achieve that by actually giving a little bit of yourself.
I think Kate Middleton will be just fine. I believe she is not one to be underestimated. I betting that she is an absolute GREAT choice for William, and he knows it. I cannot wait for the day they become engaged but I want them to take as long as possible, enjoy their youth. They have plenty of time to settle down.
I truly believe she is the one holding up a marriage because she knows the pressure will be on her to produce an heir. I would rather take the negative press and vicious attacks on the internet as opposed to everying gazing at my stomach the minute after I emerge from the church as Princess William.
Kate Middleton’s mental health I’m sure is just dandy. The mental health of those who spend years traveling from website to website attacking her, on the other hand, I wonder about…for about two seconds before they are dismissed as loonies.
Who’s attacking her right now? Really?
No one. Stating an opinion. Much like those who state less than favorable opinions of Kate Middleton.
Atx and Sg just like you are the living the life you see fit ,I am sure KM is doing the same thing. As Hale said if she was seen out she would be trashed . From the way she smiles to the boots she wear.
Not because we do not see her or hear about her that does not mean she is hiding . She is keeping a low profile and good for her.
How low is it to question her mental health , that is just rude . Thats how rumours start. I think we should more question our own mental health because we keep poking our noses in her life.
I agree with what you said Guest.
Guest I agree, Kate will be fine. atx I have been saying for a long time now that I think Kate should get more involved with charity work and help out with some organizations but it was said that royal aides are reluctant to get her involved with lots of charity work because they don’t want the public to compare her to Diana and of course some will excuse her of abusing her royal connections. Once things are more official, we will start to see what her interests are and requests for her patronage will start.
sg, some people say that she’s a fool for staying with him but I get the feeling that these two are in love with each other and understands one another. They have an understanding that we may never know about and I don’t think many people realize that. They are simply taking their time and building something solid for their future. Although I think it will all happen next year, William & Kate are in control of this and some may not agree with the things they do but it’s their relationship and we just have to respect that.
i think my opinion has been very calm and merely suggests another point of view.It is funny, Rman, you seem the only one on here able to keep their cool when other opinions come on board, and I think that is great, because i think you are the most wedded to them getting married!
Maybe she is fine like everyone is saying maybe she isn’t . we have no way of knowing, no one talks. the only time we got some information about how badly things went for them was around the break up,
Rman, I am telling you though IF William doesn’t marry her, this will not look good at all.
I think worrying about the state of someone health is actually a nice a thing, I am not wishing her ill, I am wishing her to be ok, because if this was most people , and i mean most sane normal people, it would be too much.
Their was something frail about her at polo. Not ill, not bad, just frail.
But I can remember the stories of things not going well for others, like Diana and Fergie, and i am just wary for her. i think she desparately needs some support and i am not convinced she is getting any except from home. With no friends outside of William’s circle she is limited in the people she can lean on.
it is worrisome from where I sit.
But IF they do marry all this worry will be gone, because they mostlikely knew they would do so. If they don’t it will be a disaster to watch.
If they don’t marry, I feel sorry for them both, because William will be hated and Kate will never have the same life she would have had with William…
Vogue,
I understand, but why doesn’t she have enough confidence in herself to dismiss the nit-picky commentary about her smile or the boots she chooses to wear? Neither of those reflects on her as a person, and if people are going to make comments about something as small as shoes, can’t she just brush it off like any other adult? Not everyone on this planet is out to trash her.
Rman,
I hope she will be able to make a contribution soon. I’m glad someone agrees she will be an asset in that respect. I did overlook the comparisons to Diana, but I think she will be dealing with that the rest of her life if/when she marries William.
We do not know anything about Kate’s mental state or the state of her relationship with Prince William. When and if they want us to know anything about their relationship, they will!
Clover, I don’t think anyone is claiming to know anything about Kate or her relationship with William.
atx. i agree, I wonder what her personal reticence is about it? And I do beleive that it is her own reticense about it.
Clover are you saying that no one can have a critical thought about their relationship, that we must overlook the possibility that everything is ok? and be left with the possibility of nothing happneing in the end. that is no marriage and beleive that this is what they both wanted all along?
I am more in tune with Rman’s thinking. They either know or they don’t. If they don’t then god help them IF this ends, IF they do, they can have a huge laugh about it later at everyone’s expense that was so sure that it wouldn’t be that way
Surely this is open for observation? Isn’t that what we do at blogs etc.
When i write of Cricital htought i mean this critical thought
from wiki
“is purposeful and reflective judgment about what to believe or what to do[1] in response to observations, experience, verbal or written expressions, or arguments. Critical thinking might involve determining the meaning and significance of what is observed or expressed, or, concerning a given inference or argument, determining whether there is adequate justification to accept the conclusion as true. “
Clover I agree 100% with your #105 post.
Atx I am sure Kate ignores those things. When I said from her smile to her boots I mean she she would critized for everthing and that includes her smile to her boots.
sg,
All I am saying is that we know so little about these people. Nothing is leaked. We can speculate and then critique speculation, but really what is the point? At the end of all that speculation and critical thought as you put it, we know absolutely nothing about Kate or William’s state of mind or motives for their actions. Right?
Clover I meant I agree with your # 106 post.
Thanks Vogue!
Alright. I see. I sure we’re all here for the same reason. We all want a little insight on the woman who may or may not become Queen.
I just don’t enjoy the fact that if one person questions Kate’s actions they are automatically chastized for it. I’m not a “Kate Hater” but I’m not a part of the “Kate is Great” movement. Why can’t some people just be in the middle? Why is everything put into an “us verses them” context?
I’m sure if everyone who posts here had 15 minutes with Kate to have a good ‘ole Q&A a lot of this would be settled, but we don’t have that oppertunity. I think that’s where SG and I both are. I’m positive that you can agree that some people are just on the fence about her. We just need a little more to convince us.
Rman has always seemed like a good mediator. Throw a curve ball at him and he will toss back something to really make you think without carrying a soapbox to preach on. Thanks again, Rman.
No one is chastizing you Atx . I defend Kate because I find that some people try to bully her and try to push their values on her .I am not saying you. I notice a lot of people who love to trash KM , get very senitive when they are also critized .
I find that very very interesting.
There are bartenders and then there are bouncers, each serving a useful purpose.
Absolutely agree Voge. They can trash Kate Middleton with abandon but throw it back in their faces and they can’t take it. Fair criticism, fine. Questioning someone’s mental health and expect to get it back in spades.
atx, vogue, and guest,
What good does it do to create different groups based on speculation about Kate? I just don’t see the difference between those who like or dislike Kate. Nothing anyone on this side or that side of the line says is based on who Kate really is.
Why call someone a Troll because of difference in speculation?
I just don’t get it. All speculators are created equal.
Clover, I don’t think you’re here to disrupt. If you question their relationship I can understand that. It’s the cheap shots by drive by artists who come here to attempt to disrupt this place and also spread lies and nasty innuendo about Kate Middleton. They’ve been doing this almost since Kate first arrived on the scene and I’ve seen them bring down a few very nice places. I can spot their tired attacks a mile coming. I’ve seen them brag about emailing rumors to the tabloids. I’ve seen them create the moniker Waity Kaity. I’ve seen them attack the Middleton family. Just really vicious stuff. So if I can at all help it, I won’t see them disrupt this site as well.
Rman shows great restraint and class. Likewise Mapleleaf with her devastating arguments to counter the BS that shows up here. They are to be commended. I on the other hand, am a scrapper. LOL
Rman
I think it would be dangerous for KM & PW to do something similar in Vanity Fair. It would be really opening themselves up if they were not engaged. If they get engaged then sure, but once you put it out there you have to be prepared to give up privacy if you do something like that.
I think that if an announcement comes it won’t be until the end of this year or early next year. There are no guarantees but I am hoping.
Kate is going to have to put up with a lot worse in the future then people critizing her boots and clothing, it going to be part and parcel of joining the firm. I think they are doing the right thing right now by keeping out of the limelight and keeping their relationship private and appearing every now and again at specific events when they feel ready to. The trashing articles have slowed down as late and things hopefully are going as planned out by them….
Guest,
About #119 why do you let all of that bother you? Who cares what people say NO one really knows what these two are going to do, so saying Kate is waiting or that an engagement is imminent are equivalent in terms of speculation. Right? Who cares about the content of speculation, it is not the truth, good or bad. I am interested in the truth.
Vogue, a lot of people who love Kate get sensitive too that’s exactly what I was pointing out. I wasn’t specifically defending myself. I’ve seen the same thing happen to many people here who have one minute critisism of Kate. I was jumping in for SG. He did make a good point. And again it seems people overlooked the fact that he stated, “No, I am not saying she is crazy,I just don’t think this is healthy.” Now, people followed that with he was “attacking” Kate. I’m just wondering how was that an attack?
Clover, I absolutely agree with you I don’t understand the paranoia either. That is why I asked the question, “Why is everything put into an ‘us vurses them’ context?”
JJ I agree.
Guys lets just calm down and just respect the royal couples decisions. There’s no doubt about it this couple have their way of exciting us. They are a very exciting couple and when I think of them, I think of another royal couple that is helping the Monarchy change with the times. That is Frederik & Mary. I continue to wish William & Kate the best and try to let them know through this site that I am behind them all the way. If it’s ment to be then it’s ment to be but if not, then C’est la vie.
I”m with you Clover.
I want the truth, good bad or otherwise.
And hte speculation can lead to the truth.
Someday we will know what went on and i think we will be surprised by the truth because it will have elements of both sides and in between.
T|hank you ATX, I actually wasn’t making an attack, worrying about someone in a stressful situation is natural, no? Like when Diana went through what she did. We didn’t KNOW she was in bad shape but we KNEW.
Not that I KNOW Kate is in bad shape, but there has to be SOME stress that leads to tears some of the time! Unless she is cold and heartless and i don’t get that anyone here thinks that, nor do I.
Oh and Why is being mentally ill a BAD label, not to debate the point too much, but if we were saying she might have a broken arm we would be understood to be sympathizing WHY is mental health such a taboo to talk about and worry about for someone? This is alot to take for someone so young…
Just my two cents!
atx,
I haven’t had time to read all the posts. With what you have written in your last post, are you being nice with your opinion? Are you being negative and nasty? Everyone can state their opinion- it is just how some are presentented. The people who are nasty and ugly with their comments are the people whose disagreement about Kate are not appreciated. To me she seems the perfect match for william. She is loyal, pretty, and loves William. I do hope that they walk down the aisle.
Here’s more garbage from Woman’s Day.
http://tinyurl.com/qko6df
These tabs will never stop and the crazy thing is that some people actually believe this stuff.
Goodness gracious
Well at least it is not an English publication that is printing this nonsense…
SG, I know you weren’t making an attack. I said that THEY were saying that you were”attacking” Kate. Lol!
Unfortunately, this is not the medium where you can express emotion accurately seeing as though the written word is the written word and is always up to interpretation. I’m agreeing with EVERYONE that this argument is getting rediculous. Who here is actually mad?
I will say it again. I like Kate I just don’t agree with her actions. She seems nice, yes. We don’t know anything of signifigance about her though.I’m just here to get a little insight on her, not to bash her. If they get married…Yeay! That’s great!
For Kwilmouth #113.
Where is Woman’s Day from? Isn’t it the same magazine that claimed Kate was pregnant few months back? Silly. What if they don’t want children right off the bat? Plenty of people don’t have kids until their late 30′s or 40′s.
Atx
I think that Womans Day is an Australian publication.
oops i was just restating your point ATX!
funny yes it is open to mass misinterpretation!
but yes i got that you were saying THEy were sayiing that…
exactly ATX who here is saying anything in a mad way or rude way? no one right now anyway. there is a bit of a tendancy on this blog for people to go on and on about what others are saying and the haters etc. but they never give concrete examples and it rarely is about someone here…
i give it to rman, because he is always of the same mind and never does he try to ‘take others’ down to prove his point and in donig so. I have to say it makes me and others more open to another idea….
what if we use the opposable minds theory where we take two opposing ideas and come up with a new super theory
what is that super theory
Kate and Wills is a lovematch that has grown from Uni days to date.
William knows how the press can damage; they did it to his late Mum Diana
It is quite possible Kate is using family home as her base and has variety of vehicles taking her to Royal Palaces etc and training her away from public glare.
We saw enough of pap on her birthday; her Dad then used royal lawyers;
The family are well behaved and have nevr spoken
Again lets see what happens at Ascot.
No way would Kate have represented William at 2 royal weddings last year unless it was a statement to us.
As I have said repeatedly this is not the place to come and hurl unsubstantiated nastiness about Kate Middleton, her family, or the prince for that matter. Period. If you do so, be prepared for a response.
The internet is rife with nastiness and lies about these people and I for one am tired of reading it. There are plenty of places on the internet where they tear apart Kate Middleton 24-7 and if you want to do that, they will welcome you with open arms.
Why am I sensitive about this? Because unfortunately alot of the FILTH that was started at those Kate hate sites found its in way into the tabloids, and I’m tired of reading that as well. Waity Kaity was coined at one of those sites, NOT BY THE TABLOIDS.
Why am I so sensitive about it? Because the members of those Kate Hate sites openly bragged about coming here to disrupt this site because this site is perceived to be Kate friendly. They succeeded at another site and I’ll not see a repeat of it here if I can help it.
Why am I sensitive about it? Because Kate Middleton I believe went underground because the carping about how she chooses to live her life began at those sites and were eventually picked up by the tabloid.
If you don’t want unpleasantness, don’t come here with unsubstantiated accusations about someone’s mental health, someone’s laziness. Period.
atx….I wasn’t attacking your comment, I was answering your comment by rendering my own opinion.
If I may now quote you:
”I think people need to stop digging out the menial negative commentary and misinterpreting it or at least do someone the courtesy of reading their comments thoroughly.”
Good advice. You shouldn’t be so over sensitive.
Furthermore, the point I was trying to make is you have in a round about way responded to your own comment. When you wrote:
”It is strange that we never see her doing anything unless William is in tow.”
My point is, the press have no write to report on Kate unless she is in the company of William. Through Harbottle & Lewis, Kate has quite rightly argued she is a private person unless she is in the company of William. Therefore, the press has no right to pap Kate going shopping, to restaraunts, pubs, theatre, fashion shows, horse racing etc…etc… For all we know, Kate may have gone to Cheltenham. If so, the press wouldn’t have papped her because unless she was in the company of William it could be termed as an invasion of privacy.
This is the crux of my arguement. Therefore, we are wrong to assume she is in hiding. Which many people are.
This, in my opinion, is why we are not seeing a great deal of Kate in the press.
With regards to Kate becoming involved in a charity. I don’t believe this is a good idea, because charities need high profile people to bring their cause to public attention. If Kate did take on a charity, then she would be sacrificing her hard fought privacy. As well as the indignity of being accused of exploiting her royal connectons.
When W & K marry, there will be plenty time for good works. Furthermore, she will also have the full support of the palace officials.
Very thoughtful remarks, Hale. I totally agree. Unfortunately for Kate I might add, nothing she does will ever be good enough, nor will she ever be given benefit of the doubt. Hiding or no, for her sake I’m glad she is out of camera focus. For now. I hope she enjoys every minute of it while it lasts.
Guest…totally agree.
Good morning folks
Jane,I am curious as to why you think anything will happen at Ascot. To my recollection Kate has never attended.
Good Afternoon Lisa.
Here’s a quote from Ingrid Seward of Majesty Mag.
She’s talking about Prince Phillip celebrating his 88th birthday, then she writes.
”I am sure he would love to see his grandson Prince William, who turns 27 on 21 June, happily married. That is unlikely to happen this year, however, as William has now embarked on the the next phase of his S & R training at RAF Valley in Anglesey, which lasts until the end of 2009.”
Thanks for the quote,Hale. Although I think Ingrid’s opinion is about as good as ours, I tend to agree with her assessment. I don’t think anyone is going to figure out if and when William and Kate will make things official. They are full of surprises and exist on their own timetable thats for sure.
There has not been a whisper in both fronts. All is as good than ever, bad news travel quick.
William & Kate will surprise us, we just have to wait and see.
Hi jane , I think what you said could be true about kate as well as hale in terms of what we don’t know. The only thing is that I don’t think that the palace is training her. They aren’t in a position to do so. I think she is left to basically fend for herself. I do think William may have helped her with the privacy bit. But I don’t think any formal training would happen till an engagement is on the cards
If PW & K really want to surprise everyone, an extr long weekend trip to the Little White Chapel in Las Vegas would do the trick…
My guess is engagement late 2009 early 2010 with the wedding late summer/early fall 2010. This allows PW to finish RAF training before getting married and gives them some time together as newlyweds before he starts his tour of duty.
The Henry van Straubenzee Memorial Fund will have a charity event on June 10th. To raise money for the fund, they will gather to see the new musical Sister Act at the London Palladium.
http://www.justgiving.com/hvs_mf_sister_act
I hope to see William & Kate there. Sister Act was one of my favorite movies and I’m a huge fan of Whoopi Goldberg. I understand that she can’t be in the musical but I will still go and see the production. I wish I could make it over to London for the charity event.
MJ, I really do think we will get the wedding next year. For the announcement, it will happen when they feel like letting us know about it.
MJ…”The Little White Chapel in Las Vegas.”
I love it.
What would really crown it all is the Archbishop of Canterbury dressed up in an Elvis white jump suit. 
Me…Good point, bad news travels fast.
Wow,Rman, the guest list is a who’s who of William and Kate’s circle. I cannot imagine they would not attend but it will be a circus for sure! How I love social season
I know, I would go just to support the fund and I’m glad that they are going to see Sister Act.
Rman……WOW! Do you think W & H will go? Who will Harry sit next to? Chelsy or Astrid?
If they can make it, I’m sure they will attend.
I think both boys will be on training, they will very likely appear in the balcony with HM and the entire family for Trooping of the Colour – June 13, 2009.
Wow that is a pretty impressive list with Pippa, chelsy, Astrid, Hugh. A little crazy that they displayed the guest list like that.. Or maybe that was done on purpose to drum up business?? Email addresses should have been hidden to. Do wish I could go though.
Maybe the boys will be able to attend a HVS Charity on a Friday June 18…
http://www.ropeadope.org.uk/index.html
interesting, pippa part of that crowd now too, well ensconsed I would say, unless …Pippa put her name for Kate? mind you then wouldn’t you just make up your name completely?
Yes that is THE list …
Someone go and get the goods!
Hi sg
Pippa does seem to be attending a lot more of the events with Kate, but that makes a lot of sense. Given that Pippa seems to be Kates closest confidant. PW & KM’s circle seems to be a very tight one & given Chelsy Davy’s problems with friends constantly leaking things. I can see why that is necessary.
Kate is so smart to confide in and have her sister attend events with her. I don’t care how well you think you know some of your friends, they can be tempted by money or 15 minutes of fame to sell you out.
Since Kate attends Royal weddings for Wils alone and is at Highgrave regularly.
Times have changed and the day a virgin married a prince are long gone; Charles demonstrated that so Kate attending Ascot would put royal seal on the relationship.
Even the Queen had had to move with changing vlalues.
Ascot is around time of Wils birthday. I personally think if Government not in such chaos announcement may have already been made
jj…Did you notice, Chelsy Davy’s name is on the list also.
How do we know Kate isn’t going and that she did make up her name?
Either way, if W & H do not attend, we shall never know if Kate attended because she would be deemed a private person, therefore it would not be reported.
when is the trooping colors will kate attend the ascot when will be the ladies ascot
I have never seen Kate publicly attend any of those events, certainly not Ascot — which would be suicidal for her to be caught anywhere near at this point — nor Trooping of the Colour, which family attends, not significant others. An announcement about their engagement will signify their engagement, not coy signals of them attending royal engagements together.
The only thing this speculation will accomplish is to drive them further into seclusion. All they want is to be left alone.
I think it would be great to see KM at Ascot. I am sure she will be at the Trooping – just out of the public eye (watching behind a curtain
). I do think PW & KM are as close as ever – just very clever about where they go. I just read where Redlady posted something about people at KM local pub the talk is getting very heated about the engagement.
Where is Alsgal? I think it is odd she has disapeared.
And Ked, has he reported ?
Thanks for the information Redlady – I hope the villagers are correct.
Yes kd and Me, where is Alsgal and Ked? The sudden disappearance is quite worrying.
I would love to believe the below but…..
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1478195.php/Prince_Williams_2010_wedding
Do you think Alsgal & Ked are reporters or better yet – related or friends of PW & KM???? Seems odd they are no where to be found all of a sudden. I often wondered if Ked was KM’s brother messing with us.
Morning,
Kd I don’t know about that now but JJ thanks for the link. I personally believe that we will get a wedding from these two next year. They will not have a nine or ten year courtship, they know that it’s time to make things official. I really find these two amazing in everyway and I would have never thought that William would find his future wife in college.
I do miss Alsgal and Ked, I wonder where are they?
I too hope all is well with alsgal. ked announced he was leaving for some cryptic reason,much like his posts,lol.
Redlady,I would love to believe the info coming out of Buckleberry but I think the window for an announcement has closed for 2009. My theories are usually wrong so hopefully this time is no different(except my theory about Robin Nunn’s book coming out with the engagement. I am sticking to that one like gum to a sidewalk! )
Here is our favorite couple on the cover of Hello!.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/magazine/cover-hello-1073.html
Thanks for the link,Rman. I will buy the digital version when it becomes available. Quotes from the article I have read on the internet suggest they told people the wedding will be next july at St Pauls. I can;t believe they would tell even their closest friends anything prior to the announcement so I am not putting any stock in this at all. I am content to know they are together and will enjoy the pictures we get throughout this social season.
Great link Rman I love the Hello cover!!! Hopefully 2010 will be the year!!! I mean they may have told their friends but IDK!
I have a feeling 2010 will be the big year.
It’s possible Rman is right, and next year will be the year that Wills and Kate get engaged:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015195434
I’m NOT going to get my hopes up because I truly doubt if Wills would allow important news to leak in this manner, but this speculation is slightly more pleasant than speculation that they’ve broken up.
I agree mapleleaf. I like this sort of speculation better myself. And I agree with you, William and Kate will keep this secret until the mement it is announced. These news agencies feed off of each other and go with the tide so to speak…Wills and Kate showed PDA so it’s time to start engagement talk again blah blah blah.
Right guys, it may be true and may not be true but I’m holding on to hope and keeping my fingers and everything crossed. I may become disabled in the process but that’s okay. I believe William & Kate have something special and I’m just glad that he got a chance to do something different than what his parent did. His parents marriage was rush, not well thoughtout and although there was love between them, it was put on the sidelines and royal duties was the main focus. In my opinion, you have to take care of the family then worry about everything else because you can’t build greatness on something that’s not solid. William & Kate is taking their time to build something solid for their great future.