2010 Wedding for Prince William & Kate Middleton?
According to Monsters & Critics Prince William has told friends he will marry Kate Middleton next year…
The couple – who have been dating for almost eight years – looked happier than ever when they attended the Audi Polo Challenge in Ascot, south west England, on May 10.
A source said: “They are clearly loved-up. It is so sweet to see. Kate was clearly in a great mood and spent a lot of time speaking to all her friends. “The buzz was that Kate and William will make a wedding announcement next year.”
The source claims the pair will announce their engagement next year, and marry in St Paul’s Cathedral next July.
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May 20th, 2009 07:58
Oh not again!! why fool news sometimes appear in this situs especially about Catherine & Wills ??? let me guess it, wills ever said that his never married until his training finish !! i bet that my feeling are true, how about you ladies & gentlemen ???
May 20th, 2009 09:20
I get the feeling that he will not make her wait that long and she will be a military wife. They will make it work for them.
May 20th, 2009 10:20
Rman, I know what I’m about to say makes me sound mean spirited. But in England, we are currently gripped with the political scandals which are MP’s expenses.
This issue had been grumbling for some time. When I returned from Italy, it had become headline news.
Each day there is a new revelation, and frankly in the light of the recession, makes me feel sick to the stomach.
I hope these new rumours of pending engagement do not begin to grab headlines, thereby taking diverting attention away from our politicians on to W & K.
Sorry, but that’s the way I feel right now.
May 20th, 2009 10:23
Well Hale
Politics is politics and they do say the further up you go the dirtier and less honesty it becomes. Nothing that I have heard about the recent politicans surprises me. Indeed in the USA several people who applied for position with the current administration had to with draw their names because of “tax” descrapancies.
I don’t know what difference it makes whether W &K are headline news or politicans behaving badly???
May 20th, 2009 11:05
Hale, I totally understand that. We are living in very tough times, our governments aren’t acting right, people are spending money like it grows on trees and all of that but I just think we some good news. We all need to deal with our problems and stop being so sad and down. I think we all should have hope and it’s going to take us awhile to fix things but we will get there.
May 20th, 2009 12:30
Will and Kate Spotted Together= OH MY GOD THEY’RE GETTING MARRIED, THEY’RE GETTING MARRIED LIKE NEXT WEEK, KATE ALREADY HAS A DRESS AND EVERYBODY IN THE KNOW ALREADY KNEW READ ALL THE DETAILS INSIDE.
Will and Kate Not Spotted Together=OH MY GOD HE DUMPED HER LIKE A WEEK AGO AND ACTUALLY THEY WERE NEVER GOING OUT AT ALL AND HE’S BEEN HAVING A SECRET AFFAIR WITH ONE OF THE QUEEN’S CORGIS FOR YEARS AND THEIR GETTING MARRIED NEXT WEEK.
It’s a pattern. I take articles like the one above about as seriously as ones saying they’re never getting married. I need harder evidence.
May 20th, 2009 12:45
Well we just have to wait and see what will happen. None of us like the speculation but it will continue until that great day comes. All the royals had to deal with this but William & Kate are young and popular so It goes a bit too far but yes next year I believe will be it.
May 20th, 2009 13:50
LRose hahaha good one ! I loved your humour, which in turn is true from the Tabloids.
May 20th, 2009 14:44
LRose – this was funny indeed.
May 20th, 2009 15:03
LRose…..:lol:
May 20th, 2009 15:04
Sorry LRose, what I mean’t to say is,
May 20th, 2009 18:34
LRose,
actually, there is one angle that the tabloids have not yet explored
WILLS DUMPS KATE AFTER HE DISCOVERS SHE IS AN ALIEN
or even
KATE DUMPS WILLS AFTER SHE REALIZES HE IS NOT A PRINCE AMONG MEN AFTER ALL.
May 20th, 2009 18:41
LRose,
That is the point I have been driving home for months. The pro-Kate people are equal to the anti-Kate people because no one on either side of the line knows which way this is going to go. No one has any evidence that it will go either way.
We are all waiting. No one has the inside story. When Prince William is ready to let all of use know what he plans to do with Miss Middleton,
he will!
May 20th, 2009 19:00
Clover that’s right, we all are waiting to see what’s going to happen. We have come a long way with these two and there has been many ups and downs “media” wise but I’m looking forward to that great day and I’m just holding on to hope. All I can say is the British Monarchy need a breath of fresh air added to it and I know William’s wife will help brighten up the future of the Monarchy.
May 20th, 2009 19:53
Rman,
Thanks for reminding me that although we are all on the edge of our seats waiting for news about this couple and their future either together or apart, we all have a stake in the direction in which we wish this relationship will go. Hence, all the fighting. However, we will all have to put our personal desires aside and wait for the couple to let use know WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM. Guess what? We will have accept whatever they decide to do with their lives.
May 20th, 2009 20:58
Clover, nice try, but I like Kate and William as a couple very much and I think their wedding TO EACH OTHER is years off yet. So I don’t fit into a nice little box.
LRose, that was funny as hell, I must admit.
May 20th, 2009 22:06
Guest,
Don’t get what you mean.
May 20th, 2009 22:18
yeah its actually wait for the announcement of their engagement
May 20th, 2009 22:28
Hale, I totally get your point. I hope they hold off until the guy who got the government to pay for his moat cleaning is busted.
LRose — loved it. I have a slightly different approach. In my little fantasy world where the sky is always blue and the sun always shines, when the tabs say William and Kate are getting married, that is good reporting. When the tabs so they have broken up, they are just being mean and nasty. It’s my world, I get to set the rules.
May 21st, 2009 08:33
I don’t know why but I just don’t like kate at all.. there’s something..
But if wedding bells will make both of them really truly happy I can’t say anything else than congrats
you’ve found your second halfs
May 21st, 2009 11:20
There has to be reasons of “why I don’t like Kate”. Posters
The “I don’t know why” sounds empty. Posters
I see it that William is with her, she must have for him the “Why I like Kate”. After 7 years, there is more substance to it then just the sexual fire and passion.
Take Care of your loved ones.
May 21st, 2009 11:51
^yeah
some people may think right away that it’s because kate has his heart and not mine so I’m jealous.
But I don’t think it’s that.. If I have to say some reasons it might be mostly because there was this was time when kate wanted will to propose her or then they would be done and will wasn’t ready for marriage so they split up. I saw kate being really immature to threath him because he’s in big preasure all the time anyway because he’s the future king and needs to prove himself to the people all the time.
I just didn’t think it was right for kate to make that kind of argument and I must say that I was really glad to see them breaking up. Seemed like kate was just after the royalty.
Happy now with my reasons?
May 21st, 2009 11:53
Redlady, whats the scoop? Heard anything else? I’m boooored,lol.
May 21st, 2009 11:59
Serene
I think there are always a lot of assumptions about what happened in the relationship and no one really knows what did happen. I can say that if that was the case being probably (but I don’t know for sure) a little bit older than you that there are often times in relationships when people are on different pages. Some one to move forward and go up the aisle while others are not ready, or simply don’t want to. That doesn’t make one person or the other bad its just life. Yes William has pressures but guess what so does everyone else in life. They seemed to have figured out whatever their issues were and have moved on and although there are no guarantees the future looks bright….
May 21st, 2009 12:00
Serene, that was the tabloids version, Kate has not spoken to the media yet. Therefore its valid if you wish to believe it that way. The other tabloid version referring to that time frame period was William’s wandering eye and outings sans Kate. Although those 2 young ladies where interviewed and denied having a “fling” with HRH William. So…
He asked her to come back with him…
May 21st, 2009 12:10
Hi Lisa
Been to B today – the buzz is that someting may be announced tomorrow re K and W – no idea what. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if it was the engagement? Hope its not bad news! We really need some good news with all the scandal over our British MPs.
May 21st, 2009 12:11
It seems to me, back when KM & PW broke up – that PW wanted to party more and kM did not. She probably got tired of all the bs and gossip – jmo. I dont’ ever recall hearing that she gave him the ultimatum – but she could have. None of us here knows what has happened in their past and probably will never know. Obviously PW realised he didnt’ want to be without her. So here we are waiting for that grand day to happen.
May 21st, 2009 12:17
Thanks Redlady. Do you have any reason to believe it is bad news? Give us the buzz…
May 21st, 2009 12:48
OK Redlady, tomorrow if a nice announcement comes, will have one of those hilarious royalanecdotes toasts, but BRW style, a la favorite W&K food and drinks !
So starting with the W&K menu, I’ll add:
Shepherd’s pie (W)
Treasure Chest (W)
Crack Daddies (K)
Add on
May 21st, 2009 12:54
If no announcement…then will use the food and drink for F&L’s (Spain) wedding anniversary
May 21st, 2009 13:01
Evening Everyone,
I know some of you are trying to point out that we don’t what happened to William & Kate’s relationship in 07 and that is the truth, we don’t know. The media jumped on that issue and threw all sorts of stories out there about the short breakup. We may never know what happened just like we may never know what happened between Harry & Chelsy. We must understand that these people have private lives other than a public one and what they do in their private life is none of our business. William & Kate are together now and whatever happened in the past, is in the past. The future is the main focus here.
May 21st, 2009 14:52
Red Lady & Lisa – that would be so great if there was an announcement to be made – only if a good one.
Me – I will start w/champaigne!
May 21st, 2009 14:59
kd, let me know when you intend to open your bottle, and I’ll open mine at the same time.
We should all do it simultaneously.
May 21st, 2009 15:45
Hopefully this is the weekend everything is said and done. Sad though, if they are getting hitched then we’ll only have PH to give us some interesting headlines. I wonder who they (the tabloids) are going to try to connect Harry to? Seems like everything is done with Astrid, or at least, let’s hope so.
Wow! So, the overall post history of this website is definitely a page turner! Very interesting. That put a smile on my face! What happened to all the nonsensical BSers? Some of that mess was hilarious to read! Good site, BRW! Always entertaining.
May 21st, 2009 16:23
RedLady I genuinely hope the villagers are correct! .The announcement would coincide with Nunn’s book (I think). It’s just all so tres exciting!!
May 21st, 2009 16:24
However I refuse to get my hopes up…they’ve been dashed too many times
May 21st, 2009 16:45
gracie…are you there? That thing you mentioned. If it was the bit in last months issue, then all I can say is the style is slightly similare, but I don’t think it is.
It would be great if it was.
May 21st, 2009 17:02
Redlady,
Where did you hear this particular buzz, the engagement will be annoucned tomorrow buzz?
Thanks!
May 21st, 2009 17:52
I don’t think tomorrow will be the day but if it is yippeee! I think PH would give us more than enough to talk about for many many years to come. He is a wild one and his next courtship will be very interesting.. That’s if he doesn’t get back with Chelsy….
May 21st, 2009 19:25
Hale, are you talking about Wintour?
May 21st, 2009 19:27
How could it be bad news? Obviously they are still together.
What I am anxious for is the joint interview after the announcement. I want to see how they interact with each other, the dynamics of their relationship etc. I just want to see for myself that they are happy and truly in love. Sometimes I’m afraid that they are together all these years mostly out of friendship and habit, not passion, and I want to be able to put those doubts aside and know that PW is truly going to be happy…And I want to see Kate’s wedding dress…
May 21st, 2009 19:49
I just want to hear her voice! LOL
But I think folks are getting way ahead of themselves here, their announcement I believe is a few years away yet. I’d love to be proven wrong though!
May 21st, 2009 20:04
I don’t feel an announcement will be years away. I have an overwhelming feeling it will be announced soon and a wedding in 2010. I can’t see them not formalizing their relationship by this year… The post engagement interview will be blissful….
May 21st, 2009 20:15
Does anybody else get the feeling that if it isn’t announced this year then it will be never? Or if it isn’t that it won’t be a good sign for the relationship?
May 21st, 2009 21:02
I pretty much feel that next year a wedding for them will take place. I for one look forward to the interview because it will be the first time these two will sit down tell us alittle about their relationship. Also we will get a chance to hear Kate’s voice for the very first time. Hopefully it won’t sound like that character actress Joely Richardson played in the 1991 movie “King Ralph”. I’m really looking forward to it all.
May 21st, 2009 21:12
Her voice sounded quite soft and nice in the little clips where you hear her talking, but I can’t wait to actually hear her speak and see how she and PW interact with one another like Lrose posted earlier. I wish an announcement were tomorrow. These two like to keep everyone guessing, so anything is possible. Sigh…
May 21st, 2009 21:26
It seems the Queen got a gold plated Wii..
http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/the-royal-wii/1316670
May 21st, 2009 21:28
Gah, now I’m all antsy and excited over a possible announcement!!! That’s it, no more checking BRW before bedtime!
May 21st, 2009 21:34
Guys that announcement will come. I don’t think it will happen tomorrow but it will get here.
May 21st, 2009 21:34
Me too. I am off to bed I have an early day!!!
May 21st, 2009 21:40
I would just like to point out that it is tomorrow in London. And there is the internet these days. When Prince Charles and Lady Di got engaged, we had to wait for the morning news.
Even if there is no announcement this year, as long as Prince William is not out dating other women, they are together. We can continue to hope.
May 22nd, 2009 02:13
Hi Clover
I didn’t say the ‘engagement’ would be announced, just an announcement would be made! I really hope it is the engagement, but I would be so depressed if it were something negative. W and K looked so in love and happy at the Polo last week it just has to be good news.
May 22nd, 2009 04:28
Gracie,…. I was talking about Tatler, which you asked me to look at.
Again, sorry, I truly don’t mean to sound mean spirited, but the announcement I’m praying for is that of a General Election. But I doubt that will be it.
May 22nd, 2009 07:40
Redlady,what are you hearing that makes you think it could be something bad? I am not holding my breath for this engagement,personally but you never know. Can you tell us some of the chatter you are hearing? Considering it is pub chatter,I promise to take it with a grain of salt,lol.
May 22nd, 2009 08:07
Hale – yes champaigne at the same time! But I think the big announcement must have been about the Queens new Wii!!!
Personally I think KM & PW are privatly engaged and it is just a matter of time before they make it public.
The good thing about these two dating for so long is that there is a friendship there that PC & Diana never had. I feel that when KM & PW do marry – it will be a good one and will last. They did everything their way and on their terms unlike most of the other royal couples.
Hale – are you speaking of Alsgal? And where is she these days? And Ked – why did he get so upset and leave?
May 22nd, 2009 08:07
I’ve been surfin’ around the newspapers, and I can’t find anything that may preclude an announcement. Good or bad.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall at one of those pubs in Berkshire.
Hey Redlady, can you give us any snippets? Please, do not keep us in suspense.
May 22nd, 2009 08:16
Redlady,
Why don’t you tell us what you heard?
May 22nd, 2009 08:22
I really wish this site at private messaging…posters from other sites are lurking here and poking fun at our posts,which sucks. The day this engagement breaks,whether it be today tomorrow or two years from now,I am going to join all these sites and have some serious FUN.
May 22nd, 2009 08:34
Those trolls are just jealous. I mean why would they even come to this site knowing we are pro-KM & PW.
May 22nd, 2009 08:56
kd,
I really think it is wrong to call people names because they don’t like what you like.
Seriously, why do all people have to think the same way?
Why say that this site is ONLY for people who like Kate?
Some of us don’t know that much about Kate and are still making up our minds, why isn’t that okay with you?
Kate and William are not the only royals discussed here.
Why on earth do you like Kate to enjoy the interesting conversations here?
I wish you would not call people trolls, it is not nice.
May 22nd, 2009 08:58
I meant why do you have to like Kate to enjoy the conversations here? I don’t know that much about Kate. I have never heard her speak before. I don’t know how she thinks.
She is pretty. She wears nice clothes. I don’t know her at all. I would like to learn more and maybe I will over time.
May 22nd, 2009 09:06
Clover,
No one would call them trolls if they didn’t behave like nasty trolls. I know that some of those posters are from the upper class but their “vocabulary” and behavior are really far from being lady or gentlemen-like. Shame on them.
May 22nd, 2009 09:06
Hello,
I did say that I wouldn’t post here again but I just had to try and get things into perspective. I have been away for several days and spent half an hour catching up with some of these posts.
Yes we know that PW and KM are seeing one another and really looked as happy as they did at the Wings ceremony but please , please do not raise the engagement matter every time they appear together. It is possible that they will eventually get married but it will be in several years time , and close to the 2014 date I mentioned months ago.
Another point I would like you to consider is the veracity of the only resident of B’shire who has to my knowledge ever made comments about KM . I would treat with great caution any such stories unless there is confirmation from other sources within the community.
There are reasons I believe why PW and KM will not marry for 4/5 years not least the RAF service that PW is committed to because KM will not risk being a service wife and there is the financial aspects as well. Remember at present interest rates PW’s own money will not be sufficient to provide for a married life with heightened security should chilren come along and the available finance from the D of Cornwall is also affected by the reduced income and PC will not want to cut down on his present commitments.
Rman mentioned the reason for the 2007 split and again I am sure one need not look any further than that scourge of Princes , twotimng.
PW had to work very hard tp persuade KM to go back to him despite other reports at the time.I think that KM has now learned to live with that burden but I’m sure she has made it clear to PW to make sure theres no publicity in the future.
As a matter of interest I am to marry later this year having announced the engagement a week or so ago which again is a major reason why I will not post quite as often but I will keep reading with limited posting.
Bye again
May 22nd, 2009 09:16
Ked,
I appreciate your comments. Always have and always will.
Financial factors for delaying an engagement make perfect sense.
Congratulations! An engagement is a happy, happy time in any relationship. Weddings and honeymoons are fun too! Enjoy it all!
May 22nd, 2009 09:50
Clover – sorry, I did not mean to offend. I just meant that the people who make fun of us here at this site. No need for them to make fun of us, we don’t bother them. Anyway – didnt’ mean to ruffle any feathers – it has been so pleasent here lately. Lets move on, shall we?
Wow Ked – congratulations.
About PW money – didnt’ he inherit millions from his mother? I mean I do believe he is wealthy in his own right.
May 22nd, 2009 10:00
Good Morning Everyone,
Guys I have said this before that we have to be patient about this and it going to come when we least expect it.
Ked my friend I’m glad to see you back and congrats on your engagement. As for W&K’s engagement/wedding, next year should be it. They will work it all out ked but these two will not wait that long. If they met in 07 or 08 then I could see a 2014 wedding but their courtship spans back to 03 so no they will not wait to 2014 to marry. It seems like to me that Kate will be a military wife but she will help William with their duties. People think that being a married couple in the military will prevent them from doing royal duties and that’s not true. They will be like the Wessesx’s who was working before they became full time royals. They will balance the two, military life and royal duties. William is currently doing that but then he will have his wife to help him. Next year should be a great year but at the moment I’m looking forward to seeing more pictures of them soon.
May 22nd, 2009 10:02
At the time of her death Dianna had an estate worth approx 13 million that was to be split between W & H when they each reached 25. With a conservative investment of 2% a year, it would be around 16 million now. Also as a lieutenant in the RAF I am guessing he makes 30-40 thousand a year.
May 22nd, 2009 10:03
Hmmm.. didn’t one of PW good friends just get engaged recently???? Just asking.
May 22nd, 2009 10:03
Kd,
Your apology is accepted.
I just wanted to make it clear that many of us just don’t know enough about Kate, good or bad, to really, really like her yet.
So to call people nams who don’t like her seemed over the top considering how there is very little information out there about what kind of person she really is.
We have very little to work with when it comes to Kate Middleton.
Like I said, she looks pretty in photos. That’s really the long and short of it for me.
Thanks again for the apology. I truly appreciate that!
May 22nd, 2009 10:06
If they don’t marry for four to five years, sorry, but I for one will lose all faith in the relationship. Happy couples don’t wait thirteen years to get married. Either you love someone or you want to marry them or you don’t. Yes, thinking and taking time to get to know each other is important but it is also a gut feeling and if you don’t have that then know amount of time will give it to you.
Financial factors? I dunno. I thought most of the security expenses were paid by the government? I know that PW is use to living in a certain style, but geez, all you really need is a roof over your head…
May 22nd, 2009 10:09
ked,nice to see you back. I think we all know to take comments posted on blog sites with a grain of salt but it is still interesting and fun at times. I am a bit surprised that you of all people would suggest that Redlady’s comments not be taken seriously as she like you has as much right to post her opinions. In fact I think your comments are somewhat hypocritical in that the information you post at times is presented as factual as if you know for sure the chain of events as well as the likely outcome. Redlady clearly suggested only gossip from the local pub which is nothing more then what we do here but in the flesh.
Congrats on your happy news.
May 22nd, 2009 10:17
I meant “Either you love someone and want to marry then or you don’t.”
May 22nd, 2009 10:20
Ked, many, many congratulations. I for one will miss you not posting as much as you did, but what posts we do get, I shall relish.
I for one do not see KM being a military wife. Furthermore, going by Ked’s posts, I am once more filled with trepidation about William’s approach to the monarchy. Frankly, he can’t hide forever. Which, in my opinion he appears to be doing.
How very different these two pinces are. I do believe if things were reversed and Harry was the next in line, he would approach the business of Kingship as a challenge. I am beginning to wish William stepped down.
Clover, don’t be so harsh on kd. BRW members have also been sneered at. Just surf around.
No Mathilde, I do not believe those who comment here are from Upper Class backgrounds.
Ked, as much as I enjoyed your post, I did make me feel downhearted.
Poor Kate.
May 22nd, 2009 10:37
First things first – Congratulations Ked !
As for the comments: financial reasons? I always thought that the princes inherited quite some money from their mother, several millions certainly, therefore I do not think that money is an issue here.
Clover, I totally agree with you. I know nothing about Kate (in fact, nobody on this site does).
She is pretty and I like her clothes. That’s it.
I always thought this site is for entertaining – it is fun to gossip about people who have no real problems, just as a distraction from the daily news in politics/economy, which can be depressing/worrying at times.
May 22nd, 2009 10:40
Hale the next time you feel the need to say “poor Kate” I suggest you look at the pictures from the polo match. This is not a woman who is discontent. They may not be married or engaged but they seem to be happy. remember it is the public and the press who stress about the state of their relationship in regards to marriage. Kate seems quite fine with things. And as ked suggests, don’t believe all you read here or anywhere online and you will be fine!
May 22nd, 2009 10:43
Financial reasons? Although Harry got the bulk of Princess Diana’s estate (because William will be King and get all that goes with that), William is hardly a pauper. Plus, once married, Kate can take on official duties, which makes her eligible for support from government funds. She can do ribbon cuttings, charity balls, etc. while William is off flying.
His military duties? Regardless of his committment to the RAF, he is first and foremost a future king. Nothing will be allowed to interfere with his duties related to that. It will not be a typical military family situation. he will get generous leave, close to home postings, etc. So, it is hardly like he will have to go over overseas for two years without family. So, that is hardly an excuse.
If an engagement is going to come, it will be sooner rather than later. Definitely long before 2014.
May 22nd, 2009 10:46
Thanks for putting things into perspective,rosettaresearch. Good post!
May 22nd, 2009 10:49
Ked
I don’t understand why you don’t want to post on here any more? Congratulations on your engagement.
I have also heard the financial argument somewhere else. I think on Ron’s website. It would be sad if that was the reason they had to wait another couple of years but I am sure if PW was gung ho on getting married he would find a way to make it work. That’s really the bottom line.
I think we have all been very conservative in our expectations for an announcement this year even with the polo sighting. The likelyhood is it won’t happen this year but probably next year, but it is only natural that the tabloids would start engagement rumors after a long absence from the spotlight following some very nice pictures.
I wish you well ked and it’s sad that you are bowing out…
May 22nd, 2009 11:01
Okay, I’m not British (clearly) so someone is going to have to explain to me why we care about the class of people posting here? I know you guys are supposed to be hung up on that kind of thing, but surely that doesn’t extend to the internet? lol.
Also, I would appreciate it (and perhaps some of the other Americans would too) if someone would give a crash course in “How the Royal Family is Maintained Financially” I know the Queen gets some kind of salary. The others are rich mostly because they own land or stock shares? And PC owns some kind of Organic company right? Does that pay at all? What’s this about Kate getting public funds once she is doing official duties? And Isn’t their security paid for by taxes?
Clearly I am in need of assistance…
May 22nd, 2009 11:18
It is indeed interesting to see how different the princes are. I understand why PW hates the press, after all, he lost his mother because of them, and it changed him forever. But he should not allow this to rule his life. If he is with KM because he truly loves her – wonderful, and I am happy for them. If (really, only IF) he sticks with KM because he is afraid he will never be able to trust another woman again, then this is not a good sign for his regency later.
Probably some of you will think that KM is able to open him up, but … hmmm… I do not see that. Rather, she seems to adjust to his way of life.
However, PW still has lots of time until he becomes king. There is a lot of time for development. The Queen is still healthy and doing a fabulous job, then his father will become king and probably also do a good job.
May 22nd, 2009 11:26
Ked why are you bowing out? I have always respected your comments.
I will not get into financial comments about William because it’s obvious that he is a very wealthy guy and will inherit many more things in the future. He can provide for his wife very well. The Queen, Prince of Wales and the government all know that William has been dating this woman for many years and will probably marry her soon so they are prepared to handle that situation, there is no need for us to worry about that.
These two will not wait until the return of Christ to marry so most likely next year will be it but again we must remain patient and positive. Send that positive energy to the couple and hopefully we will get some positive energy sent back to us from them. It’s just good to see them happy now and they showed that to us on the 10th. William & Kate are not dumb, they knew that all these engagement speculations would start up because we haven’t seen them together in awhile. That’s just something they have to deal with. The media and public are hoping for that big day, all for different reasons but it seems like everybody has got their fingers crossed for these two.
May 22nd, 2009 11:32
Hale,
I am not being harch on Kd, as I do not know him, but I will be harsh when it comes to name calling especially over Kate Middleton a person we hardly know.
I think it is best and the for good of BRW if we could stop engaging in name calling and taking sides. This is a good site! There are many intelligent people who post here. Let try not to call people names. There is no need for it.
Again, Prince William will let us know what he and Miss Middleton plan to do together when he is ready to tell us!
May 22nd, 2009 11:32
Hello! Ked, my congratulations to you and your beloved one! I am very glad for you two. Fill your future with joy and love, and be happy. As for William, I think now he has to stand himself as a future Prince of Wales and later as a King. That is why he needs his time without any other person’s influence on him.
May 22nd, 2009 11:36
That’s exciting news, Ked!!! Congrats! W&K may not be getting married this year, but at least two members of this site are going taking part in holy matrimony this year! Might not be a regal blow-out, but exciting still.
Chris, that would be awfully sad if his staying with Kate was just a matter of comfort and routine. If that were the case, that would speak volumes about his insecurities. I have all the confidence in the world that Charles will make an acceptional King too.
I’m curious about the RF’s finances too, LRose. On the DM, Scottsman,and the Telegraph it seems like everyone is always complaining about the tax burden that the RF imposes on the people, but I’m curious as to how much of a burden, if that, they really are? I know US citizens pay for goofy things like university grants to further study germination of lima beans and useless things like that. LOL!
May 22nd, 2009 11:42
I think he is not married yet because he wants to define himself before he wants to marry and start a family. Great reason, everybody should do that before they get married, maybe there were less divorces then.
At the same time, it gives KM time to adjust to the RF.
May 22nd, 2009 11:58
Ah, I see Chris. No more Diana/Charles-esque scandles would do the RF a lot of good.
I personally think the high divorce rate is more of a generational thing, though. The family values of the ’50’s were abandoned and led to more selfish generations. Then, you have generation “Y” that is so jaded by the selfishness of their parents that everyone is very particular about their mates, so they don’t repeat the same mistakes. Or that’s what I can conclude from my peers who are getting married or already married now. Will and Harry are definitely walking on the same eggshells the rest of us are.
May 22nd, 2009 12:05
Funding the royal family is a tricky thing to understand. here is the link to the Royal Finances page from the official website: http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/Overview.aspx
May 22nd, 2009 12:11
These two are just giving each other the time they need before that happens. Edward & Sophie did the same thing. They had been dating since the very early 90’s and didn’t get married until a year before the new millennium. They simply enjoyed their courtship and then married. William & Kate has given themseleves the time they needed so they can have a solid relationship for marriage. They gave us a very big hint that the time was approaching when the royals included Kate into some of their family events. William is just killing two birds with one stone and he will have great help while with royal duties while he’s serving in the military. He seem to know who he is now and look like he’s happier thanever with Kate. I have my fingers crossed that next year will finally see them wed and officially become a great team for the Monarchy.
May 22nd, 2009 12:17
atx, all I can say is that if Charles & Diana had taken their time before marriage, we would probably still have a Princess & Princess of Wales now. William & Kate are a product of the new approach that the royals are taking now. No one wants to see another “War of the Waleses” again. Nothing is being rushed anymore.
May 22nd, 2009 12:22
atx…In light of recernt event, the biggest burden to the tax payers of this country are our politicians. Tey claim for their moats to be cleaned, lightbulbs, hob nob buiscuits and other food items. Tampons, porn films. Houses they’ve sold, shrubbery, flowers, one sickening revelation after another. Oh yeh, they do not pay capital gains and they receive £10,000 towards a new kitchen. YUK!
Much of what the Queen has in effect is part of the crown estates. The Queens personal estates, are Balmoral and Sandringham. therefore, any shops, offices and factories built on those estate, I’m sure, land is leased to them. So the Q should be in receipt of rents, as well as the agricultural produce from those estates.
The Crown Estates, are vast. For example, Regent Street, St James, Hyde Park. Apparently, it was Mapleleaf on RIF who ascertained that the RF give the government all the monies acrued, the in return the government gives the RF an allowance through the civil list.
The allowance the Q receives, is for all expenses for BPalace, Windsor, St James and I think KP. This would include, the household staft, courtiers, servants as well as, salaries for Edward & Sophie, PAnne, PPhillip.
Prince Charles is not part of the civil list, his monies come through the Duchy of Cornwall Est, and from that both Camilla, William & Harry are in receipt of allowances.
Edward VII, was a savvy King. It is believed through him, lands were purchased in the US & Canada. What I don’t know.
As well as the civil list. If a member goes on an overseas visit, then their travel expenses and those of their staff are paid for via the privvy purse.
With regards to security, this is paid for by the tax payer.
Every Labour government makes a big deal about what the Q receives. However, we don’t know what the government receives via the Crown Estates.
The St James area in London, is one of the richest areas, with high rents and leases.
As for what W & H inherited? Reports vary widely. Some say, that Harry got extra, because William will inherit a great deal when he becomes King.
I know the above information could be more specific, but I hope some of it is helpful.
Oh Yeh, I just remembered, The Q owns a huge ranch somewhere in Wyoming, and has made several private visits for the purpose of buying horses.
May 22nd, 2009 12:22
Lisa…..thank you for your kind words.
May 22nd, 2009 12:24
Oops, regarding my post at No. 90, sorry for all the spelling mistakes.
Hey…Steve how about a spell check.
May 22nd, 2009 12:42
As you know I don’t post here any more either but I do have to say congratulations to Ked! I hope you and your fiancee are very happy.
And what a coincidence because I’m getting married as well later this year. Do you have an idea when yet ked?
Hope you are well and wish you all the best.
B.
May 22nd, 2009 13:00
Hale@ 90, easy understanding and great post.
Ked, congratulations and God Speed.
May 22nd, 2009 13:09
Congrats Ked and B!
May 22nd, 2009 13:11
Wow congratulations B. It’s good to know that we will have two people from here getting married. How is the baby B?
Our dear friend Mapleleaf did make a scan of the Hello! artical on TRF.
http://tinyurl.com/qvkv84
May 22nd, 2009 13:12
Now for the hard part: Ked, I totally disagree with your post #63. I think your theory regarding when William and Kate will announce their engagement is wrong.
Being a military wife would be a good thing for Kate, not a bad one. Not only that, but Wills CAN afford a wife.
The main reason Wills can afford a wife is that Prince Charles is more than able to financially support Wills and his wife, and even Harry and HIS wife.
Prince Charles pocketed £12.8 million in profits last year AFTER paying £4 million in VAT (for those who don’t live in the U.K. VAT = taxes).
That means Charles is well able to give both of his sons financial support. And according to the financial information released when Wills turned 25, he and Harry currently receive an annual allowance from Charles.
Not only that, but Wills and Harry have both received the normal pay rises that go along with being Flight Officers. Wills now earns around £40,000 per year. That income, combined with the yearly interest income of £250,000 to £300,000 (which amount depends on the financial market rates at the time) that he and Harry both receive from their inheritance and the £2 million left to him by the Queen Mother, is more than enough to support Wills and a wife comfortably, even by the RF’s wealthy standards.
Wills certainly has more personal income than Prince Edward and Sophie, Countess of Wessex, and Edward and Sophie support not only themselves, but their two little ones. Yet Edward and Sophie live quite comfortably.
Another person who doesn’t have as much income as Wills is his Peter Phillips, but that didn’t stop Peter from marrying Autumn after he turned 30.
As for Kate, becoming Wills’ wife while he’s actively serving in the military means they would be able to start their married lives in relative privacy. Because Wills is the 2nd in line to the throne, when his training is completed he is going to be posted to spots within the UK for his Operational Tour. Where ever he is posted within the UK, he would be allowed to bring his wife, just like the other pilots who have families are allowed to do.
SARF pilots are not required to be single, they are allowed to have families, and the families are allowed to live with the pilots. That isn’t hearsay on my part, that information is on the RAF website.
My points are that Wills’ being in the RAF SAR actually creates a favourable and protected environment for Wills and a wife, and that Wills can well afford to have a wife.
All that remains is for Wills and Kate to decide when the time is right for them. They may indeed wait until 2014, that’s their choice and I think they should be allowed to do things in their own time; but if they want to get married in 2010 or 2011, then Wills can afford it.
May 22nd, 2009 13:21
Mapleleaf, trust you to come up with the facts and figures.
Me
I am aware there is nothing to stop Kate from becoming a military wife, but for some reason I just don’t see it.
Deacon…are you there. Have you heard how William’s training is progressing?
Has yet to buckle down? Or is it a rue in order to avoid that which would thrust him into public glare?
Any thoughts??????
May 22nd, 2009 13:21
Yes, Hale, I just read most of the info on the British Monarchy website that Rosetta gave the link to. Thank you, by the way, Rosetta. Very enlightening. If it cost tax payers that small of an ammount, then why do people make it out to be such a big deal? The cost seemed small to me. I wasn’t critisizing how much is spent on the monarchy. I was asking for more information about it. Believe me, Hale, the common US citizen is paying for the same BS for our polititians and corperate CEOs too.
Rman, that is exactly what I was getting at by stating generation “Y” is jaded by our families. I agree that if Diana wasn’t just plucked from a garden of vergin aristocrats and had time to really develop a relationship then there would still be a Prince and Princess of Wales. Let’s face it though, Baby-Boomers and Flower Children were a selfish generation. There are acceptions though.
May 22nd, 2009 13:25
A big congrats to be too! Wedding and a new baby! That’s fun! I bet you are over the moon right now!
May 22nd, 2009 13:28
Congratulations, B ! All the best for you and your family !
May 22nd, 2009 13:34
Don’t worry Hale, William & Kate will work it out. Even seasoned royal watcher and royal author Judy Wade see these two working it all out just fine. William & Kate will have some peace as a married couple and still be able to do royal duties. They have time later to become full-time royals.
May 22nd, 2009 13:35
BTW ML thanks for those scans.
May 22nd, 2009 13:45
Mapleleaf…thank you ever so much. that was reassuring.
Did I understand the article correctly, it was alluding to next year and not this year?
May 22nd, 2009 14:01
Mapleleaf, thank you so much for that information. I think of St. James as just the palace, not the whole darn area that they rent out. I do know that a lot of the agricultural products the family eats comes from their own lands. Talk about cost saving. Also, the Queen owns lands in Kentucky (not sure about the Wyoming) because she runs her thoroughbreds at Churchill Downs. They had tomove them a few years ago because of the diseases that was killing the foals in utero.
I am pretty sure Princess Diana’s will is part of the public record which where the info about Harry getting more comes from.
People complain about the cost of the Brtish Monarchy because they see them as “not doing anything but living in palaces at taxpayer expense.” They do not take into acocunt all the ribbon cuttings, charity fundraising, goodwill, tourism promotion, etc. they do. Personally, I think the Royal Family is a bargain for what the people get in the long run.
May 22nd, 2009 14:21
Hale – thanks for watching out for me (I think you just want some of my champaigne!) & please dont’ worry about me, Clover is just stating something that I do understand now- lets keep everything friendly. (by the way, I am a she) – lets move on.
May 22nd, 2009 14:44
Yw Rman, and thank YOU very much for posting the link to the scans I made. I wanted to share them with BRW, but I wasn’t sure if Steven would mind a link to TRF being posted here.
May 22nd, 2009 14:50
Hale, I’m sorry, but I didn’t see your question until after I posted my last comment.
To answer your question, yes, the Hello article is saying that an announcement MIGHT be made next year.
I hope Judy Wade is correct, at least the idea is plausible. I realise that an engagement announcement made next year doesn’t mean a wedding next year, but it’s certainly plausible that Wills and Kate could do what Peter an Autumn did, which is announce their engagement almost an entire year before the wedding.
I’m hoping that’s the way it works, anyway.
May 22nd, 2009 14:59
ML thanks for posting the links. I of course love the pictures of them being affectionate. But what amuses me the most is the picture of Harry and the girls salivating over him like he is their next meal! It’s priceless!! He looks oblivious aka playing it cool!
May 22nd, 2009 15:02
That was hilarious, JJ! That was the picture that i was most fixated on too. I still want to see who Harry’s next Girl Du ‘Jour is.
Great pictures, by the way.
May 22nd, 2009 15:11
Thanks Hale and Rosettaresearch for the info regarding the RF’s finances
May 22nd, 2009 15:39
Yep, I noticed the girls salivating over Harry to. It was as if you could read their minds, and they were thinking, ‘will I be the one?’ Priceless.
Hey, I feel so much better for having read that article.
Promises to be a great new year in 2010. A royal wedding and hopefully a new government.
And of course, musn’t forget the new hat.
May 22nd, 2009 17:53
Kd,
Thanks! I really meant no harm just want to keep things family friendly at BRW!
May 22nd, 2009 19:33
I just wanted to point out that I think it’s nice that Judy Wade mentioned in the artical that William and his advisers are protecting her from the limelight. It explains why we don’t see her that much anymore and it’s the quiet life that she likes.
May 22nd, 2009 19:47
Rman, That’s what I round reassuring. Now you tell me, isn’t that the sort of thing you do out of love?
Ahhhhh Blesss :laugh:
May 22nd, 2009 20:15
I’m glad William has found love in this crazy world. That’s the quest i’m on at this moment, to find love.
May 22nd, 2009 20:24
Rman,
You are such a nice, sweet guy I am certain that you will find true love and soon!
Someone will be very lucky when they find you!
May 22nd, 2009 20:32
Thank you very much Clover.
May 22nd, 2009 20:42
I just wanted to add my congratulations to Ked and B on their upcoming weddings. I hope you both have many years of happiness. This is comng from someone who will celebrate 50 years in October. A good marriage happens when two people who are happy and complete in themselves choose to share with someone. I realize the times were different when I married, but the ingredients for a good marriage haven’t really changed. Much happiness.
May 22nd, 2009 21:36
Hello Rman,
Don’t worry when it’s ready and when your ready it will seek you out. As I see it Rman, the beauty is to recognise it, accept it and don’t prevaricate. Obviously your luck is with you when the lady is ready and feels the same but both then have to work at it.
Stay with it good Guy and get lucky.
B, Congratulations and for you twice or is it thrice plessed. September 12th is the day.
I reciprocate your best wishes and may the good Lord be with the four of you.
May 22nd, 2009 22:57
Let me add to those who are congratulating B and Ked. It is wonderful when you have found love and happiness. May you both find joy with your weddings and for B your children. It is certainly wonderful news.
Ked and B, I hope that you continue to post when you can. It must be an adjustment to your time and energy with your relationships. Best of Luck.
May 22nd, 2009 23:39
hello, my opinion on this marriage idea is they may marry this year, but if they do not marry in 2009. they will marry either 2013 or 4, 5, etc. do i know for sure, no. . just my thought.
May 23rd, 2009 00:15
That polo match was two weeks ago. No sightings, no engagements for William.
I have a feeling that our love birds are HOLIDAYING somewhere…??
May 23rd, 2009 01:07
Curious, they could be holidaying somewhere, but I think that they’re just following their normal schedules, and that’s why we haven’t seen either of them.
Kate lives and works in Berks, and Wills is in training every day. They’re able to do their work every day, and see each other on the weekends.
I’d bet anyone that Wills and Kate are really loving their lives right now!
May 23rd, 2009 03:41
Hello! My warmest wishes, B. And my congratulations!
May 23rd, 2009 08:09
ML, they are probably in Scotland for this bank holiday. William is in training with the RAF, during training the students enjoy bank holidays too. William is not yet doing military (SAR) rounds.
Perhaps Balmoral. The Ducy of Cornwall would be a nice change.
I checked the diary for the remaining month of May and PW doesn’t have any royal duties. Harry will be travelling to New York next weekend.
May 23rd, 2009 10:10
Me, that’s a good supposition. William has his very own house within the Balmoral estate.
May 23rd, 2009 14:08
If the SAR pilot trainees were allowed to take yesterday off from their work/training schedule, and if Kate took yesterday off from PP, then it’s certainly possible that Wills and Kate are in the midst of enjoying a 4-day weekend holiday.
I hope for their sakes that they’ve gone somewhere fun, and that they’re enjoying themselves immensely.
May 23rd, 2009 16:37
(Steven, I also hope you will forgive me if I’m posting information I’m not supposed to post on your forum.)
Please click this link to a VERY interesting article!
http://tinyurl.com/rds2q4
May 23rd, 2009 16:42
I don’t know if this has been posted. It is about the BBC and the making of a program when an announcement is made between William and Kate. The article was done by Mandrake I think. Still keeping my fingers crossed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5374257/BBC-puts-money-on-Prince-William-to-marry-Kate-Middleton.html
May 23rd, 2009 16:45
Mapleleaf- You beat me to it. I just finished reading about it a few minutes after you posted.
Very interesting indeed!
May 23rd, 2009 16:55
Maple Leaf
This is an interesting article but many will be more likely to take it with a pinch of salt because of the scandal with the Queen when they lied about her entering the room instead of exiting the room. I for sure think the end of this year will be the earliest we get anything but more realistic time line is between February and March next year… IF it is going to happen.
May 23rd, 2009 16:58
After all, the BBC is a reputable, “Hard” news source. If they are spending the money to make such a programme, then it is for a logical reason.
After all, according to the BBC executive, they have never done this before. So why would they spend the money now, if they aren’t sure of their information?
May 23rd, 2009 17:02
LOL, very interesting indeed. I’m really keeping my fingers crossed and praying.
May 23rd, 2009 17:03
JJ, that’s a very good point, and I’m sure there will be quite a few people who will take the article with a pinch of salt.
It actually makes sense to do so, I’m sort of taking it with a ‘pinch of salt’ myself, but that’s just my practical nature.
At the end of the day, it’s still the BBC and they’re still the premiere ‘hard’ news source in the U.K. I refuse to ’swear by’ the article, but I’m not dismissing it out of hand either.
I think it’s another ‘Wait and See’ situation, but at least now we can wait with a little bit more optimism than we’ve had in the past.
May 23rd, 2009 17:37
I’m trying to not get too excited about this but maybe, just maybe this is why Robin Nunn’s book hasn’t been released yet. There was a link on here that said it well be released in June. I just find it odd that Amazon haven’t put a new release date for the book yet. I could be thinking too hard.
May 23rd, 2009 17:56
I just hope that by Mandrake making this public it will not give PW cold feet! I trust Mandrake to not print this w/o BBC permission or knowledge or it could be a fiasco. IMO I don’t think this would have been leaked out at this time if an engagement were a year off. I think that’s why Mandrake has laid off K and PW marriage bandwagon as nothing comes of it. That’s why I don’t think he would have ran the story if it was something that would be in the distance future as alot could change in that time. Maybe I am just wanting it to be true and to be soon!
May 23rd, 2009 17:57
I think that an engagement will happen sooner than that. If someone leaked to the BBC that there was going to be a wedding which is why they are making their documentary it would have been done to alert the media that it is coming sooner than later. Why would this have been leaked now if engagement was coming in a couple years? I read somewhere that the BBC would either get the exclusive in the event of a wedding. I am by no means an expert. However, the BBC as well as Mandrake are trustworthy sources. I might be naive and wrong. I am hoping!
May 23rd, 2009 18:11
I don’t know guys, I think the problems is that we have been burnt so much by the press on this subject that it’s making my head spin a bit. But you better believe that I have have my fingers crossed on this. Any word from Alsgal? I hope she’s okay. It’s starting to bother me that we haven’t heard from her in awhile.
May 23rd, 2009 18:35
Hey guys, guys! You know what this mean don’t you?
William and Kate are still together. Otherwise why would the BBC make a programme about it?
Joking aside, I do think the Beeb would be tipped off early about an engagement. They would also be tipped off when the date of the wedding is.
It is usually their pictures that are broadcast around the world. Doesn’t that mean they have to book Satelite space or something? How else do they broadcast around the world?
May 23rd, 2009 20:44
I understand BBC has an international program – similar to CNN.
May 23rd, 2009 20:47
I mean, you can watch and listen to BBC in Asia and in quite a few foreign countries. At least when I am on businesss trip, I often can. I do not think they have to book extra satelite capacities.
May 23rd, 2009 21:21
Here is another thing to consider: The length of time between the announcement of production on the documentary and it’s completion. They’ll have to contact and interview “experts,” gather footage, edit come up with graphics write the narration etc. Anybody here work and production and know how long these things take? Perhaps July? Any thoughts?
May 23rd, 2009 22:45
Hi Guys, Have been away for a couple of days so just catching up now…
Lisa @ 58
Sorry there isn’t a good private messaging system built for the software we run at this site…
ked @ 63
Congratulations!
Hale @ 90
Again, sorry, no good spell checker software built for this site. They’re usually built into forum software which is completely different from the blogging software I use here…
Mapleleaf @ 129
Thanks for the BBC story link the and the Hello scans! In general I don’t have any problems with linking to other sites.
Did I forget anyone?
May 23rd, 2009 22:59
Thanks for the response,Steven. I hope you have a full bucket of bandwidth just in case things unfold soon