BBC bets on William & Kate Royal Engagement
The BBC is betting that Prince William and Kate Middleton will soon be announcing their engagement. So much so that the corporation has commissioned a new documentary of the couple to be broadcast on the night their engagement is officially announced. The Telegraph reports…
“Believe me, in these straightened times, we would not be spending money on this programme if we had not been assured that they were definitely going to get engaged,” says a senior BBC executive.
A spokesman for Clarence House says it is aware of the documentary but declined to co-operate with the producers.
May 23rd, 2009 19:54
I do think the BBC has some information, or else it would be opening itself up for a flood of criticism. (Being that it is barely begun to dig from under the fall out from recent missteps, one would hope it has some solid basis for spending tax payer money).
However, and this is just a hunch, I would feel more certain if BBC was working on a documentary on the life of PW, and Clarence House was cooperating. I would interpret this as a sign that the powers that be are building a higher profile for PW, one that might coincide with, among other things, a royal engagement.
May 23rd, 2009 19:59
I do like that picture of the two. Well we shall wait and see what will happen.
May 23rd, 2009 21:49
Clarence House refusing to cooperate is worrisome. They would want to have this bio good to go when the announcement is made.
Of course, doesn’t the Prince’s PR come out of St. James now?
May 23rd, 2009 22:39
Well, this is interesting. I am going to remain optimistic but not go into high gear but the BBC is surely no tabloid. Nice news for a change.
May 23rd, 2009 23:09
Okay BBC, if really both of them will engaged, proof it with us quick!! cause sometimes news gossip of wills & Kate always mistake!
May 23rd, 2009 23:32
ok, a few further thoughts now that I have had a moment to ponder this story. If this story is true then what they are really saying is William and Kate are already engaged and the announcement is pending. I say that because no one would leak to the BBC that they are *going* to get engaged before William put the ring on her finger. I am also wondering if the Telegraph used this story to ge their own knowledge of the pending engagement out there first. It is quite possible that this is what this press blackout we have seen over these last few months is all about. Clarance House not coopering with the doc is no surprise at all. No one will speak about the couple until it is official which now may come sooner then later if they are indeed engaged because of the heightened security risk to Kate. This would not be the first engagement to leak. Charles’s engagement to Camilla was also leaked but I forget by whom. Watch how this story travels tomorrow. The palace must be pi$$$$$ed big time.
I still feel like we are in an endless game of the boy who cried wolf!
May 23rd, 2009 23:35
yes its true we have to wait
May 24th, 2009 00:51
I am excited. It is BBC this time, not Woman’s day. Could it be this near…
May 24th, 2009 01:02
I’m more curious than cautiously optimistic. I’ll be shocked beyond belief if they announce an engagement this year. I’ll be ECSTATIC, but I’ll be shocked.
Meanwhile there is a huge amount of denial, teeth gnashing, and lashing out in other corners about this latest development. LMAO LMAO LMAO
May 24th, 2009 02:00
Guys, as Steve has said he doesn’t mind linking to other sites. Take a lot at what Hattie, a new member on RIF wrote.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/r24dd9
Hope this tinyurl works, I’ve been having a lot of trouble with them.
May 24th, 2009 07:19
Link doesn’t work for me Hale.
May 24th, 2009 08:59
Thank you Hale!
Great info, very detailed well reasoned. Gotta get that Hattie to post here!
I am reposting Hale’s link
http://tinyurl.com/r24dd9
The link did work for me, its just that it takes you to the original tinyurl Hale created. Once there, you have to click on the “take me to the page” link. I think the reason why it did this is because Hale pasted the “preview” link, which is met to help you make sure it works, rather than the actual url.
May 24th, 2009 09:12
Was it not long ago that the Palace was in a fury w/BBC airing that special about the Queen w/photog Annie Lebowitz? Hopefully this is not some type of payback and proves to be nothing more than egg on BBC face.
May 24th, 2009 09:16
gracie do you mean the leak or the info the BBC got as planted and fake to get back at them? I doubt they would spend the money on a doc and the exec would put himself out on that kind of a limb for paybacks. I have long felt that the media in the UK(not the tabs) have know certain facts for awhile so they could prepare but a confidentiality agreement was in place. Lets just see how this all plays out. As we are finding out in the news this morning,Palace security is less then stellar so I am inclined to image they have so loose tongues that with the right payout,will wag away.
May 24th, 2009 10:37
Sojourner, thank you for explaining to me what I did wrong. I am such a divvy.
gracie, the documentary you are refering to is Monarchy At Work, and has been downloaded on You Tube. The argument the Q had with the BBC is they misrepresented her. They made the Q look as if she was annoyed with Lebowitz following her meeting with her.
Whereas in actual fact, the Q was having a bit of a hissy fit before the Q met Lebowitz.
The palace was annoyed with the way the docu was edited. Hence the resignation of the person responsible.
May 24th, 2009 10:45
Lisa just to give you a little info for your post #6:
Robert Jobson from The Evening Standard leaked that Charles & Camilla was getting married and was about to make the announcement. The Palace was upset about that because they didn’t want that information leaked. This must be serious if the BBC is making a leak because they already had alittle problem with the Palace before so I don’t think they would lie about this announcement. Is CH or STJP happy about this leak? I don’t think so. They want to be incharge of the announcement.
May 24th, 2009 10:55
Thanks for the info Rman. I knoew you or Mapleleaf would have the goods,lol.
Now here is something interesting…I believe someone may be trying to stop this story from spreading. If you type in “Prince William Kate Middleton” into a google search, the story does not appear. It only appears if you click “sort by date with duplicates included”. Try it. Maybe it is my browser but I doubt it. I also find it odd that no other papers in the UK, like the DM or the Sun have picked it up. Makes you go Hmmmm.
May 24th, 2009 11:05
:LOL:
I tried the same thing that Lisa did. A dear friend who tracks conspiracy theories like a chocoholic hoards Godivas told me that it is possible to replicate web pages from legit content makers and create fake stories. So I usually try to google the story first. I did find it in the Telegraph site, but nowhere else, but chalked it up to being too new. But who knows :-O ?
May 24th, 2009 11:10
I found it in dozens of sites from India as well as a few fringe sites from the UK, but it no longer appears under a general search. Coincidentally,the Point de Vue article also dissappeared in a similar manner. Pass the Godiva,please
May 24th, 2009 11:41
Everytime a new story comes out, I am more certain than ever they are secretly engaged.( I get a different feel with these engagement rumors) I still say I think they will get engaged after William’s 27 birthday. Atleast I hope so.
May 24th, 2009 17:19
Here is a link to a story that has an interesting slant to the Prince William Kate betrothal. The net are listing announcement stories under both William and Kate.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25533139-663,00.html
I am keeping both my fingers and toes crossed.
May 24th, 2009 18:12
Hi Guys,
I should think that the following comment could easilly lead to many of you wanting to lynch me but for undisclosed reasons may I ask that you consider the possibility that William and Kate although remaining very close to, and very very fond of, one another may never actually marry.
Please no histrionics just a realistic consideration of that possibility.
May 24th, 2009 18:16
Hi again,
Just for interest. Wasn’t it mentioned several months ago that ITV were preparing an engagement special?
Same news. Same result.
May 24th, 2009 18:27
Deacon, while that is a possiblity, it is not likely for a couple of reasons. One, Kate is not going to hide out and not move on if there is no realistic possibility of marriage. She’s young, she’s pretty, she’s smart, she has money. If Prince William and she werejust friends, she could easily have found a new boyfriend already. Two, the Royal Family does not want another Charles and Camilla on their hands. If they are just friends, he will be advised to move on. Not just hanging on being friends with someone forever. He MUST marry and produce an heir. He knows this. So, if he has no intentions of marrying Kate, he would have moved on to another eligible suitable young lady already.
May 24th, 2009 18:28
The Sun weighs in -The author of the article is she the regular author or is it Laracome? I think that is his name. What that has to do with anything I don’t know.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2446221/BBC-making-documentary-on-Wills-and-Kate-ready-for-engagement.html
May 24th, 2009 18:32
Deacon, where did you hear about the ITV doing an engagement special?
That’s news to me.
May 24th, 2009 18:34
Deacon, are you based in England? Only sometime ago, you posted that William wasn’t applying himself in his S&R training. So I wondered if you perhaps knew someone who was station at his base?
May 24th, 2009 18:37
Or remain single but without being pictured with Kate.
May 24th, 2009 19:10
Hale,
See; http://www.sponkit.com/prince-william-kate-middleton-engagement-documentary
May 24th, 2009 19:22
LOL sponkit spoof
May 24th, 2009 19:25
Well I think the comment from the Clarance House spokesman at least hints towards the fact (IMO) that we won’t get anything this year. We all thought that engagement rumors would start up again. This is a waiting game and wait I will….
May 24th, 2009 19:31
Hi Me,
Ever see Hugh Grant with ex’s ? And that lasted 14 years. It happens
May 24th, 2009 19:36
Hugh is an Actor
William is a Prince
May 24th, 2009 20:46
Me,
So is the the Guy who rules Monaco not a Prince.
May 24th, 2009 20:56
Deacon,
You want PW to follow Prince Albert of Monaco’s example?!! At least two illegitimate children and no heirs by age 50??? :-O
I just don’t think the UK is quite as laissez faire as the citizens of Monaco seem to be. Also, Princess Caroline produced four gorgeous children, (one with a German Prince or what not) who might very well be in the process of being groomed for the role. Poor PH would be in a super awkward role, being forced to produce the heir without ever being the heir himself… Too complicated.
Which of course doesn’t mean that KM is PW only option and that their engagement is a sure bet.
May 24th, 2009 21:38
Sojourner
I often wonder how different things would be in Monaco if his mother had lived… I don’t think that Prince Albert is ever going to get married and Charlene Whittstock seems to be happy with their status Quo.
I think you are right that obviously KM is not the only option for Prince William but I think if it didn’t work out with KM he may have a tough time finding a replacement which he was truly happy with. It’s not out of the question it’s totally possible but I just don’t know…
I note Deacon the Hugh Grant comment but I don’t recall Hugh hanging out with Liz Hurley’s family on vacation after they split?? She also didn’t seclude herself away from the press and moved on quite quickly as did he with Jemima Kahn. The point I’m making is that even though they remained friendly they were both seen out with new partners.
Hugh Grant is also not royalty he has nothing to loose where as William is the 2nd in line to the throne and his actions have implications…
Once again with the friend theory there is nothing to gain for KM by hanging around and putting her life on hold if she isn’t his girlfriend.. She isn’t getting younger and if he isn’t the one then she would need to move on as the time is ticking…
May 24th, 2009 21:44
this is just my opinion, but i think that if tabloids and other journalists would stop playing the guessing game and sit back to watch like everyone else then maybe an announcement would come much sooner. there must be an extensive amount of pressure as it is for pw. yes i am waiting to hear an official announcment as well and will follow it just as much but this should remain a private matter and not taken lightly. an engagement and a marriage are huge steps just like a baby and the amount of guestimating by the paps can seriously make one think differently about the feelings behind it. i for one don’t want to see pw thinking that maybe he should just get it over with because it’s what everyone is waiting for but for him to take as much time as he feels that he needs to make it theirs. if it wasn’t for who he is their engagement would be just theirs and not the worlds. i am waiting for it like i said before and strongly feel that it is a subject that paps should not be breeching at this point. that way they may get their stories sooner rather than later.
May 24th, 2009 22:01
Deacon totally different persons.
May 24th, 2009 22:04
jj,
I agree with you, KM has played a big role in the formative years of PWs adult life. If his romantic relationship with KM comes to an end (and I am not saying it will), the next girlfriend will have a big shadow to come out from under (and I am NOT talking about media coverage). Same of course would apply to KMs next partner.
Yet people have messy relationships all the time…
May 25th, 2009 01:39
Guys, I know that this waiting game is getting on all of our nerves but we just have to wait. William & Kate is letting us all know that they are the ones that is running this show and I don’t think William is allowing anyone to pressure him. They seem to be very happy and the day after William was spotted with his lady love at his official engagements, he was all smiles. This guy seem to be very happy and happy that Kate is still by his side after all these years and that is beautiful.
Yes it’s true that ITV will produce a special on the royal couple and the BBC just let us know that they are doing the same thing but I guess it’s up to the couple to decide how they want to handle all of that. That engagement is coming and next year (Gods Willing) we will finally get the wedding that we was hoping for. I’m taking the BBC serious, they wouldn’t be spending money just on anything.
May 25th, 2009 02:04
Well no announcement last week! However I was in B again this weekend. The locals are in a frenzy – they all seem to think the announcement is imminent, and that it will be a bethrothal. All this before the news that BBC making a documentary. All I can say is that I do believe it will happen this year and quite soon.
May 25th, 2009 03:26
yeah it true if bbc and not woman day it near
May 25th, 2009 05:00
The Sun Newspaper
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2446221/BBC-making-documentary-on-Wills-and-Kate-ready-for-engagement.html
I believe an Engagement is on the cards .. the only thing missing is the date!
May 25th, 2009 05:10
Hello,
Look all this is a typical reaction to PW and KM being photographed together once in many many weeks.
Ban the word engagement for a few years , leave them alone to go out as and when PW chooses and see if he matures enough to at least accept responsibility for a relationship because he gives the impression of being unable to accept a relationship for his birthright..
I believe that PW has many issues away from KM and his future responsibilities and he may well have to face these before he can think of accepting a wife or a country. He seems to put up barriers between his feelings and his duties and has chosen the easy option of RAF service to postpone having to face himself.
May 25th, 2009 06:51
The thing is, the press and the public have been down this road before regarding this announcement and it never comes. I do think it is coming and waay sooner then ked may feel but probably not as soon as we may like. here is another article in the Telegraph…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5381504/Is-nothing-sacred-Not-even-the-Oxford-professor-of-poetry.html
May 25th, 2009 08:29
JAC: today is Memorial Day in the US, when we remember those who have died in the service of their country. We should all remember that military service is not an “easy option”.
May 25th, 2009 08:59
Phoebe,
I have always thought that the RAF service was meant to give PW some gravitas, given that there are many currently serving senior Royals, and a clear role for him within the RF seemed lacking. In a time where many of UKs (and US) young are serving in different military missions around the world, it sent a strong signal.
May 25th, 2009 09:23
Morning,
Ked, everybody lets just sit tight, wait and stay calm.
Ked William will finish up his training and then become a full-time royal. I know it may look like he is running away from royal life but that’s not the case, he has his father, uncles and aunts that are doing very well with handling royal duties at this time so it give him alittle time to train and gain some military experience. Now he and his wife will do royal duties from time to time but they will have a nice two or three years living on base has a married couple. He is not abandoning his royal duties.
I’m alittle excited that we will hopefully get a chance to know her better.
May 25th, 2009 09:27
Hello! little artical.
http://tinyurl.com/od4xrw
May 25th, 2009 10:03
As for William’s SAR training, wasn’t he basically forced to undergo military training beginning with Sandhurst, as it is part and parcel with his role as King? Yet he is being accused of using the armed forces to evade royal duties and marriage. If he had not gone into the Services he would have been accused of being weak or lazy for not joining the armed forces as have his elders.
He can’t win, which is probably just fuel to the fire for his loathing of the press and publicity, and why he is going to make us wait until the last dog dies before he gives the all clear sign for their engagement announcement.
May 25th, 2009 10:05
As time and their relationship wear on I suppose the engagement speculation will only increase. After all, a broken clock is correct twice per day.
May 25th, 2009 11:21
It is interesting to me that this BBC documentary about William and Kate is coming when Kate is said to loose what security she has. I also think that the timing between them being pictured together at the polo match is at bes coincidental, Unless they tell the world that they are best friends. I think that their appearance at the Polo match was planned. They had to prdict the reaction of the media, the people, and the world. I suspect that they have talked and will let us know what is going to happen in the future when they are ready. I am hoping for sooner rathr than later. I dont think anything will happen until after Harry gets back fro the US.
May 25th, 2009 11:21
Yeah William just want to earn some medals to put on his chest and it’s all part of his role as a future King. He’s following in the footsteps of his father and granfather. Kate knows that she has a very special boyfriend and she has to share him with the military and royal duties. I think she will be a great support to him, even after they are married.
May 25th, 2009 14:11
Fascinating.
I prefer to think that PW believes that service to one’s country is the responsibility of every citizen, and he being the “first citizen” so to speak, the responsibility lies heavier on him. Or perhaps he just believes that his time would be better used serving his country in the armed forces than behaving as some sort of trained monkey for the benefit of “royal watchers”.
May 25th, 2009 14:29
William comes from a family that believe’s in service to the country. His mother must be very proud of him.
May 25th, 2009 15:28
Phoebe @ 54, way to go ! I believe same.
I really dislike it when some people think thanks to the tabloids who like to distort that William is at the RAF killing time.
May 25th, 2009 15:36
Deacon, thank you very, very much for that link you provided. I wasn’t aware ITV made a docu, but I do understand as to why they made it when they did.
Never forget, that last year it was expected that William would take up full and public royal duties. There was in actual fact a structured plan in place to this effect. Just before Christmas 2008 and just after, cyber world was full of pending engagement.
What, in my opinion, all of us failed to realise is that last September Willam put paid to all these engagement rumours early on when he UNEXPECTEDLY announced he would be training with the S&R full time.
This announcement for me, wasn’t second thoughts about marrying Kate, but it was a way of delaying his destiny.
Clearly, ITV jumped the gun. Along with Woolworths a couple of years beforehand.
Remember, we are not accustomed to seeing long royal courtiships. But in light of what happened to C & D as well as A & S, we the public should begin to accept this is how its going to be from now on.
The RF can no longer risk more divorces. It is damaging to the monarchy’s image in a country where there are voices questioning the need for a monarchy, and these voices are becoming louder and louder.
If you all recall, it was our beloved Alsgal which informed us of a ‘terse agreement’ with the press regarding Kate’s coming and goings.
Furthermore, over the winter period, there are those who retreat to the countryside for shooting weekends.
I always felt, that once the polo season started if we didn’t get a glimpse of Kate then, that would confirm the rumours of a split which many have been espousing on various forums. The fact that we have seen W & K together, for me puts paid to those rumours.
Also a confirmation by ‘Private Eye’ that Kate is going about her daily business thanks to a deal brokered by Harbottle & Lewis, PCC, etc… For me puts paid to the idea, that Kate has not retreated to a nunnery. a la Julie Andrews.
As for William training with the S & R, in my opinion is a waste of the defense budget quite frankly. Yes, I accept that it is good for future Kings to have a decent grounding in different aspects of the armed forces, but it is not necessary for them to have long training periods in a certain branch. This denies a position to someone who could put this training into practice, thereby the armed forces would recuperate its time and monies spent in training that person. Whereas with William, I do not see the armed forces of ever recuperating what they have spent on William.
Please not, in Britian our army is ill equipped. They are forced to use guns that jam, and bullets and boots which melt.
Bottom line, William in my opinion is hiding. Not from Kate but from his borne destiny.
If a wedding comes this year……great. If a wedding comes next year…..great. But quite honestly, I truly do not expect it.
However, I should like to clarify one thing. There are those on other forums who say that the reason W is with K is because of Sex….Duh!…. There are those on other forums who say that if W truly loved K then he wouldn’t wait for so long he would marry her.
I don’t agree with the sex thing. W is a celebrity, in this day and age there is no shortage of females who would only be to happy to ‘bed’ a prince.
As for reasons why W has not married K as yet? A couple. I happen to think W met K too soon. I truly believe they have an agreement. He loves K but is not ready to settle down yet, and even get a few things out of his system first.
But more importantly, when W does marry K, it will be part and parcel of accepting his destiny.
Until that happens, for now he’s still coming to terms with what he thinks is expected of him, and what is required of him.
Hopefully, he will make the right decision. It is what that final decision maybe which is of the greatest interest to me.
May 25th, 2009 16:32
Evening Guys,
Hale that was one interesting comment. It’s true that the royals are now carrying out long courtships before marriage and yes the media and public is not use to that. It’s something that everybody will have to get use to.
The Queen would probably be very worried if William went to the SAR to escape his destiny so I don’t think that’s the case at all, he’s just have the free time to train. Charles also trained with the military but did lots of royal duties because he is the Queen’s heir. With the senior royals working very hard, William simply has time to carry out his dream of becoming a pilot. I know we all want to see this young man traveling and representing the Monarchy all over the world but that Will come later, right now he and his future wife will do their duties but will also have some private married life as well. The then Princess Elizabeth & Prince Philip did the samething. This guy accepts that he’s a future King but he also knows that his kingship is a long way off, his father is a very healthy man and by the time William becomes king, he will probably be in his 40’s or 50’s.
I have read many of those comments on what they say about William & Kate Hale, and I think think they need to get their head out of the gutter. We have no business in their bedroom. I hope we see these two happly married next year so we can get over these dumb engagement rumors once and for all.
May 25th, 2009 16:42
I do agree that Wills is managing to ‘postpone’ his destiny as a Royal ‘meet and greet specialist’ by being in the SARF as a pilot, but he’s also getting a chance to do what HE wants to do, and live his life the way HE wants to live it.
He won’t be able to do this forever, and I think Wills is entitled to these short few years as a pilot. Maybe this is an ambition he’s had inside himself since he was a little boy. As he is not the Prince of Wales, it’s not as imperative for Wills to take up the mantle of Royal Duty right away like it was with Charles.
Charles is the Prince of Wales, or the ‘2nd in command’ so to speak.
Wills isn’t. Charles has to do the heavy lifting for now, and Wills gets to get a short respite.
I think that because Wills is getting this opportunity to live the life he wants to live for a few short years, he will be a better Royal later on. He will feel happier and more fulfilled, because for a little while he was able to do something that was just for HIM.
May 25th, 2009 16:48
Hi Hale I don’t know you and haven’t had too many converstions here but apart from the occasional bit of sense from ked your post is probably one of the best I have seen on this or any other other other site.I couldnt agree more with many of yoour comments ,his decision to stay in RAF which even silence his advisors and his family. The abrogation of his responsibilities while still accepting the so obvious golden rewards shows that William has many other problems with his life than just his family failings.Your important comment on defense costs is so valid when service men lose their lives because of the lack of adequate equipment and he is taking the training knowing he will never be allowed to perform in dangerous situations.
Your comment on William hiding from his destiny because he is so unsure of his position in life is so true and he has demonstrated a difficulty in making any decision of consequence. I am not sure that it is the thought of marriage to Kate that worries William.
It is a fear of marriage because he is so uncertain of himself and his life
May 25th, 2009 17:03
Hale,
Well put! Thanks for and excellent post! I do believe PW met Kate too soon. If they met, let’s say in their late 20s or early 30s then theire would have been a wedding within a few years. I am not saying that these two will not wed. I just see how PW is being pressured by the media and all of us and he is really very, very young and does not lead an ordinarly existance in any way shape for form which does complicate decision-making when it comes to matters such as marriage and family.
PW needs time to sort out all of these complexities. I wish his luck and I don’t envy him in any way.
May 25th, 2009 17:05
PW’s intention to try out for the SAR program was reported back in early spring 2008. Therefore, it was only a surprise to those who weren’t paying attention.
Charles had a four-year career in the Royal Navy. Was he postponing his destiny?
If the sources are to be believed, the Queen and Prince Phillip had a five-year courtship. That sounds pretty long to me.
May 25th, 2009 17:05
Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! That post was filled with errors. I was not concentrating. I hope you get what I was trying to say!
May 25th, 2009 17:39
I think William & Kate met each other at the right time although they were young. These two has grown with each other and they know one another very well. I think due to their early meeting, the bond they now have is very strong and is strong enough to handle some pressure. I think the problems that comes their way is problems that they face together and if William have any fears, I’m sure they face it together as well. I have said many times that I believed they was going to get married while he is serving in the military and by the looks of it, that is going to happen. But William just simply have time on his hands to do what he likes at this time but he knows that once his training ends, he and his wife will become working royals. This is not something he is trying to escape. He’s balancing training and duties very well.
May 25th, 2009 18:14
Hi Rman Reluctant as I am to comment against such an eminent poster who has the respect of all who read and post on here I respectfully point out that it is painfully obvious that William has tried to escape his reponsibilities both with Kate and more importantly with his position as an heir apparent and which is consistent with the view his beloved mother had. She frequently pointed out that William was not suited to a life in the public eye and did not hesitate to hide behind his younger brother and even blame him for his youthful misdemeanours. She also said that Harry should have been the heir as he had more attributes than his elder bother. I do however commend you for your consistency in defence of the William and Kate relationship which you do admirably withour reservation.
May 25th, 2009 18:28
Rman (the Romantic), Mapleleaf, Deacon and Clover. Thank you all.
May 25th, 2009 18:50
Well deacon it is well known that William is not only trying to serve his country but preparing for his role as a future monarch, that is not a person who is trying to escape his reponsibilities. He is proving to us all that he is taking his royal role seriously, he is embracing it and not running away from it. If he want to run away from it, then he should have tried to become a professional polo player or something.
May 25th, 2009 18:53
BTW thanks for the compliment.
May 25th, 2009 19:10
Hale,
YW!
Rman the Romantic! I like that!
May 25th, 2009 19:43
Phoebe yes, The Sun Duncan Larcomb was the only one who reported that William had applied for SAR/RAF, the article is from April 2008.
May 25th, 2009 19:56
Let me make myself perfectly clear. I have not accused William of attempting to avoid his responsibilities by joining the armed services.
My point is that William will be criticized no matter what he decides to do. I have not made any judgment for or against him joining the military — which I happen to favor. He needs as much exposure to different branches of government and military as possible, all of which he will lead.
I am the one who believes an engagement is still a few years off. I have said that here repeatedly. And I applaud William and Kate for the way they are leading their lives now, as in refusing to bend to public pressure for an engagement.
May 25th, 2009 19:59
On this Memorial Day here in the US, it is a day to reflect on the US troops who have died to defend this country, right or wrong. And on a personal level to remember my father, a career Marine, who is buried at Arlington National Cemetary. I would NEVER criticize or accuse William or anyone else for joining the armed services.
May 25th, 2009 21:33
Guest, I am sorry for you about your Dad. Today is the day to honor him as well as all those who gave their lives in the fight for freedom. It is very telling about William and Harry in the latest Sun article about William helping Harry with his training. It goes on to say that they are giving up free time and socializing to make sure that Harry succeeds.That shows the love between brothers and what happens during crunch time. This is the perfect training for William. His caring will be turned to the people of the UK as king. Helping during cruch time for his brother shows how steadfast he wil be during crunch times for the country. We would rather see William out and about with royal duties. However, he will have a lifetime of that. If he can use his love of piloting to help out people in real trouble why not? That leaves the question of Kate. I hve folowed William and Kate since their break up, I was relieved to read in one of the newspapers that there was a possible reconciling. Now, I can only think of the polo match. I really don’t think that they would have appeared together if they were not in it for the long haul. To me the only question is when. To me, now would be good. I do have to think that these are two real people who have their own plans. I would like them to be very much in love and find a life time of happiness. I do think that there was a definite plan put in place during their New Years time in Scotland. I do think that Price Charles had a meeeting of the minds to discuss their future. Waiting patiently is not one of my strong suits. As I am an outsider, I will keep my fingers crossed and hope that they find their path that is best for them.
May 25th, 2009 22:30
Guest we salute our troops today and we salute your father for his service to our nation. I’m not saying that you are accusing William of ditching his royal responsibility for the armed services but there are some out there that do say that about him and I just don’t believe that to be true. That’s okay if some of us disagree on this. I don’t think this couple will bow down to public pressure but they know that we all are rooting for them and wishing them the best. I do think the BBC got some real info and all of this will come to full circle sometime soon, that’s left up to the couple to let us all know but I’m happy that they are happy.
William & Kate knows that every appearence they make will send everybody into a frenzy and I think they are trying to spring a surprise on us but we just have to wait for it.
May 25th, 2009 23:35
This is a really cute article
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2448297/Prince-Williams-heli-help-for-brother-Harry.html
May 25th, 2009 23:38
Hale I agree I think you hit on a lot of important points. I do think they will get married although I don’t know when. I don’t know if I agree that they met too young. Many people meet in college and get married later on. I think the added pressure of being in the lime light plus his responsibilities might be too much of an added stress for William but hopefully it won’t be a case of the father repeating the sons mistakes. We will see..
May 26th, 2009 05:45
Guest, I profoundly thank your Father for his service.
Semper Fi.
May 26th, 2009 11:24
Good Morning everyone,
A royal wedding is needed.
http://tinyurl.com/pdnt28
May 26th, 2009 15:41
Hi Guys, Is it just that after the holiday ,posts and opinions seem to have dried up or have we now exhauster all that there is to be said. If so , is that a bad reflection of us as commentators or a general lack of interest i the subject of B….. R……… W.
If so who is to blame?
It may well be that the general opinion in the country is now so dispirited by the see saw world of William and Kate that it is being reflected even on the one site that has championed them year after year.
If so is this a reflection of how the country may
sway away from championing William and kate to a dispirited disinterest. How sad
May 26th, 2009 15:47
Lack of gossip news is what normally is linked for blog and forum discussion.
May 26th, 2009 16:31
This is an amusing article.
http://tinyurl.com/q459rt
May 26th, 2009 16:33
Hi Me, as a complete and utter ignoramus who is also slow on the uptake your criptic post is both insensitive and to me, and probably most, completely incomprehensive. Perhaps a more sensitive and more comprehensive explanation of your comment or even a translation of your wit would I am sure be appreceiated by all.Please!
May 26th, 2009 16:36
Hi Hale, at last an understandable post with humour. Well done
May 26th, 2009 16:47
”Britain’s Prince Harry wants to phone Paul Burrell and tell him to shut up.”
http://tinyurl.com/rac6nm
May 26th, 2009 16:56
Hi, What is so interesting is that it’s Harry who is leading this charge. Perhaps his mother was correct with her comments.
May 26th, 2009 17:01
Deacon @ 82, in other words, there is a lack of gossip news of Prince William and Kate Middleton.
If you follow and scroll down in this site for example, you may read the kind of tabloidal news they produce on W&K, most are very silly.
May 26th, 2009 17:59
Hi Me, Thanks for response. Surely the silliest type of news is the continual postings that an engagement is imminent. I understand that is the conclusion we would all love to see but it must be evident to all and sundry that it is not happening. There has been no difference or change in the circumstances between all parties over the past 24 to 36 months so why should it now be at that critical stage. There has to be a significant change in the relationship to overcome the non events of the past 3 years but can anyone identify that change and indicate how the change will manifest itself? If taken to the extreme the only changes over the years is that they now see less of one another because of the circumstances and constraints in William’s chosen, although temporary, career.
May 26th, 2009 18:31
Deacon, how do you know that W & K see less of each other? Are you personally acquainted?
How do you know there has not been a change in their private life? Please explain how you know.
May 26th, 2009 18:48
Well I think it’s very important for us to understand that we all are talking about a prvate couple here and they obviously spend a great deal of time together when they can, we just don’t see them often. The couple we saw at the charity polo match does not look like a couple that don’t see each other often so deacon I don’t know what makes you think that they see less of each other. William & Kate look like their relationship is stronger than ever and that means that it has grown and not stayed the same. The engagement will come, we just have to wait.
Have anyone heard from Alsgal?
May 26th, 2009 20:22
Deacon 24 to 36 months. Oh no, I am really too lazy to write the important W&K events in that period of time. Maybe if you google both of them you will find some factual event news (articles with or without pictures) and gossip news.
Order of the Garter for instance marked an important event for William and the presence of Miss Middleton. This event in particular, invitations are issued by HM.
Recently as of January 2009 they both appeared in non professional pictures at the VIP tarmac Heathrow airport arriving from a NY holiday in Scotland (no pictures of Scots), but curiously seems like a minder was asked to take those tarmac photos.
Insistent articles about rented pad out of William’s RAF base, may for instance confirm that yes as reported Kate most likely spends weekends at Shropshire and that Harry is also based there now.
Well I ended up writing a lot, but there is so much more.
I guess some people need to see a lot of PDA or togetherness to feel that this couple is in for as much years they already are in.
I mean seriously, once they marry they will be working forever. I say hopefully they will enjoy their time now.
May 26th, 2009 20:27
There are slight changes on the Robin Nunn book front. Powell books have it coming soon, Hot Books have it being reeleased June 1,Amazon changed its message from title not arrived yet only to not arrived but you can pre order it now if you’s like or something to that effect., Independendent publishers group have it still coming out June 2009. I can’t get to the book under its title only the ISBN number. Barnes & Noble is out of stock.
May 26th, 2009 20:35
Response to Deacon @ post #87:
Actually Deacon, it’s not correct that Wills and Kate have seen less of each other.
According to many, many articles in not just the tabloids, but in reputable newspapers, Wills rented a house just off base and Kate has been spending most of her weekends with Wills at the rented house.
That might be why they were looking so happy, comfortable, and relaxed with each other at Wills’ recent polo match. They seemed to be very in sync with each other. It’s very probable that the time they’re spending with each other at Wills’ rented house has allowed them to get closer than ever.
The fact is, they haven’t been able to spend this type of time together in 4 years. The last time Wills and Kate had THIS much privacy and freedom, they were at uni.
Wills’ stint in the RAF has so far proven to be VERY, VERY good for his relationship with Kate, if the happy, relaxed look he’s been having for the last few months is any indication.
Wills has seemed happier and more relaxed since January 2009, than he has in the last 4 years.
SOMETHING is definitely agreeing with him, and judging by Kate’s smiles at him in the most recent photos of them together, something is agreeing with Kate as well.
May 26th, 2009 21:02
I notice that William is very happy these days, of course he was happy in the past but there’s something about his and Kate’s smiles now that seems to be different. Their relationship has grown a lot, you can tell. I’m looking forward to what’s coming.
May 26th, 2009 21:03
Mapleleaf, I agree.
May 26th, 2009 22:37
It’s not a question of IF but when. Yes, Alsgal has gotten her hopes dashed many, many times and wonders why the buzz is now for a summer announcement if previou royal history indicates that would indicate a winter wedding.
Not that Alsgal has anything against winter weddings, but it will be rather chilly on Alsgal’s lawnchair out on the Mall come this January.
Perhaps they’ll have a year long engagement.
Kate will make a lovely bride, although Alsgal does wonder how she will handle the resulting press intrusion if she couldn’t take it pre-engagement? Poor Diana couldn’t stand it even despite having bodyguards to keep the press at bay.
A damsel stuck in a castle all day, Camilla-style, perhaps? At least she’ll be able to avoid the annoying press that way.
Oh, the things a girl does for love …
May 26th, 2009 22:41
Welcome back,Alsgal, you were missed
May 26th, 2009 23:01
Thank you Lisa
The road to recovery has been a long one and Alsgal has been grateful to the fine people at Gordon’s and Bombay who have helped Alsgal through her most recent, and difficult, trauma.
As of last week, and because Clarence (who was once Alsgal’s favored UPS delivery facilitator) will no longer deliver to us since the propane tank explosion took out most of our driveway, Alsgal’s backside, and most of the (unpaved) county road, so Alsgal has not been receiving her bi-monthly book deliveries.
In other words, it’s not just Kate who is a Princess in Waiting, it’s Alsgal in Waiting too — sitting out in the customised Forest Green Port-O-Potty still waiting for that darn book by Claude Joseph.
Is is out Lisa? Have you read it?
May 26th, 2009 23:25
I’m just glad your alive and kicking Alsgal. Sorry to here about that, sounds like major explosion !
May 26th, 2009 23:25
Sorry to say, I understand that CJ’s book sucks.
May 26th, 2009 23:25
Oh the Claudia book is out alright,lol. It seems as if it is a bunch of mish mosh of tabloid stories as well as some digging into public records of the Middleton family possibly with some help from some distant relatives down under. To put the icicng on the cake, Ms Joseph was to have a book siging or some event related to her book at Raffles last week and she was pretty much booted out with a lame story about a broken water pipe,to which she suggested hat someone (Cough *Kate* Cough) had applied pressure to the folks ar Raffles and had her event booted. Joseph also admitted that during the time in which she was writing the book, she recieved several letters from Kate’s royal attorney’s and that Kate’s pals here asked not to cooperate with Ms Joseph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5335203/Kate-Middleton-book-launch-cancelled-amid-much-mystery.html
I have not read the book. I am waiting for Robin Nunn’s book to come out,which I believe will accompany the announcement. Hopefully by the time this happens,I will still have my vision,LOL.
May 26th, 2009 23:35
Hi Guys, All points taken but with many contradictions. Your special reporter from the Berkshire pubs frequently insisted that Kate wasnt away from her home base and yesterday it was reported that she was still working and attending the family shop.
The news from the base is that William is rarely there on consecutive days and his London and other appearances seem to confirm that. His alleged attendance in Harry’s training is disputed as neither is allowed to fly with each other.My main point on the relative changes between now and a few years ago has still not been answered.
May 26th, 2009 23:46
Can you provide the link of Kate attending shop yesterday.
William hasn’t had any royal duties according to PoW site since May 11, 109 year old lady and there is none programed for the remaining month of May 2009. I don’t think the Sun said they flew together, but gave his little brother some tips, theory, not practice.
Where do you get those reports Deacon.
May 26th, 2009 23:47
deacon,I get that you want to convince us that we are wrong about the state of W/K’s relationship but I chose to believe what I read not on blog site or in forums but from reliable sources such as the BBC. Now you and ked may be right and W/K may not marry until 2014, 2024 or the 12th of never but logic and what I see with my still – functioning eyes tells me something else. Only time will tell,though.
May 26th, 2009 23:48
Alsgal, my goodness, such an eventful life. Glad you are okay.
You missed my post (easy to do in all the excitement), where I said a early elections over by fall, new government, then the announcement in time for Christmas merchandising, then a summer wedding just after Prince William’s birthday. Takes care of politics, romance and business.
May 26th, 2009 23:57
my only dissagreement is that I just don’t see a public engagement longer then 90 days. It would be foolish and dangerous to allow the bad guys of the world enough time to plot something terrible. JMO. I will be very surprised if the engagement is longer then a few months. This is not Sweden,folks, it’s London. We live in a very different world then we did when beautiful Diana walked down the aisle at St Pauls.
May 27th, 2009 00:04
Hey Alsgal,
I’m glad to see you are back.
deacon I see lots of love between these two and I don’t think they would waste each other’s time if there was no love there. It takes a great deal of love, bonding, communication and understanding to go through what they go through with the world watching their every move. I think love is what help’s ease their journey through their relationship.
May 27th, 2009 00:10
Harry is in NYC this weekend and next week will be “Susan Boyle-week” in the newspapers. So there is no room for an announcement…
May 27th, 2009 00:27
curious,while I agree that nothing will be announced while Harry is gone, Susan Boyle is not even a blip on the radar if the RF wanted to announce an engagement. I do believe the newspapers would find a spot to squeeze it in.
Night all.
May 27th, 2009 04:45
well i buy the book but not reading it for now im looking forward to robin nunn book
May 27th, 2009 08:44
If William was “rarely” seen at the RAF according to Deacon, how is it that he successfully completed the latest stage, second partof his RAF training (May 09, 2009).
Broadsheets and tabloids also reported that Prince William’s first part was last year Jan-Apr 2008, and his Commanding Officers gave him the go in skipping some parts begining this year do to the fact that he did not need to repeat what he already knew and passed last year.
He is now training to pilot a Griffin helicopter, which is the third stage of becoming a SAR pilot.
May 27th, 2009 08:55
Welcome back Alsgal!
Sorry so much drama on your life stage. I hope the gin and tonics help!
May 27th, 2009 09:29
Alsgal….so very, very happy to see you back. I am glad that you are safe and well, and pray you recover and your family recover from the shock soon, and all repairs made speedily.
Carrying on from my post #57.
Mapleleaf… I totally, totally agree that it is very possible that W wished to do something for himself before taking up full royal duties. But why S & R. Honestly, I do have an issue with that decision.
Just for the record, at the present time our armed forces have more helicopter pilots than they do helicopters.
Miguiel Head, was quoted as saying in some article, Telegraph I think, that W’s training will be completed in 18 months. Tosh.
I accept W will have experienced flying an assortment of helicopters in 18 months, but that doesn’t make him a fully trained S&R pilot. There is a lot more to do before he earns that title, and frankly any press alluding to that would also be tosh.
He needs to clock up air time, he needs to learn hoisting and winching, he needs to learn low flying, he needs to learn long hovering, he needs to learn how to extract personnel under fire. A whole array of things which come with doing S&R.
My basic gripe with W doing S&R, and it is a gripe (sorry to offend die hard W fans, and please don’t hate me) is the sheer cost of his training. Pilots are one of the most expensively trained personel in any armed forces.
The MOD will never recuperate the cost of his training, because he is not a career officer. Unlike Harry who is.
Someone should have stepped in and curtailed W here, and it should have been one of the chiefs of staff.
I don’t have any issues with W doing other things in the military. Great. Go William, go. But I don’t think, with the severe cut backs in the armed forces,that members of the RF should think they can treat our armed forces as if they were toys in some fairytale Ruritanian kingdom.
Phoebe… Yes, Charles did spend 4-5 years in the Navy. People are already comparing him to William and downing Charles because his low scores for his degree. But what people have chosen to forget is that he learnt to fly whilst he was still studying at Cambridge.
I have something of a yo-yo opinion of Charles. However, I do agree with his views on Architecture, Environment, and many other things.
The difference between Charles’ tenure in the Navy compared to W’s in the RAF is, when Charles did his stint in the Navy, it was still at the height of the Cold War. Even though the defence budget is forever being slashed by incumbent governments, nevertheles what Charles did was not as costly as what W is doing.
Furthermore at the time C was serving, the Navy was able to absorb the cost, because of the budget in order to combat the Cold War.
Also, look at what Charles did. Yes he learn’t to fly helicopters and jets. But his main stint was in the sea going branch. Her served on a couple of ships, before taking command of HMS Bronnington.
He aimed for this, because he felt it would benefit both his leadership and management skills. Thereby serving him well in his future role as King.
I fail to see how training as an S&R pilot will serve W as a future King.
Me….that’s interesting you say that it was known in the Spring before the announcement was made. But I am curious to know, did you actually read that before the announcement or afterwards?
I happen to agree with Deacon, everytime these two, W & K put their heads above the parapet, the press whip it up into, ‘engagement imminent.’ It sells papers.
Anyone who is familar with my postings here and over at RIF, will know that there is nothing more I would welcome than a Royal Wedding. I don’t agree with those who think, just because W & K haven’t announced as yet, that there is anything sinisterly wrong with the relationship.
William is taking his time, and that time will come when these two marry.
But because of what is happening now, (MP’s expenses) I hope it is not this year. I should like the public to stay focused on the abuses of our seedy, rotten politicians.
Next year is an election. Personally, I am not getting my hopes up until 2011. Sorry to dishearten you. Especially you Rman.
Deacon, I’m just curious, what country do you reside in? The reason I ask is that in previous posts you appear to know just how much time W spends at base. Please take note, I am not asking you to reveal your identity.
May 27th, 2009 09:50
I read it before (The Sun, Duncan Larcomb) as I am a royal fan and read all articles related from all media sources including blogs.
But I admit I got confused during June-August 2008 with the broadsheet articles (Telegraph, Independent) related to St. James office opening, the 2 new hired personnel; Miguel Head actually remaining, the other not, and the multiple articles describing the supposed plans of Prince William to be carrying out full royal duties as of January 2009, which didn’t pan out.
May 27th, 2009 10:05
Hi Guys and Hale Sorry no clues but English is not my first language but use it every day along with my other attributes which include……….. but that’s another story and yet again there is so much that is true in your post including the helicopter pilot position. A year ago the MoD announced that SAR helicopters would move off station in UK and reinforce fighting units in Iraq and Afghanistan whilst crews would be allocated to other duties. At the same time MoD also announced that orders for new uprated helicopters would be postponed indefinitely and SAR squadrons in UK would be reduced and downgraded.
Me, all I need say in response is ‘when in Rome’ and leave it at that.
May 27th, 2009 10:11
Hello,
I’ve just found the translation of the article about “4 princesses- in – waiting”
http://tinyurl.com/qmoeex
The original french article is here:
http://www.noblesseetroyautes.com/nr01/?p=13903#comments
KM is not the only one who is waiting…
May 27th, 2009 10:39
Me, Rosetta, Rman, Clover, Hale, thank you and it’s good to be back and although Alsgal is still seeing a dermabrasion specialist for her backside, she will try to keep you all up to date on events from her beloved Forest Green Port-O-Potty.:)
Re: The flip flop over the wedding and SAR last summer.
Even his most ardent supports can agree that William dislikes the press and does not trust many people. Many have claimed that he often “tests” people and also that he had been most upset with his mother’s “disloyalty” w/ the AMorton book and the Panorama interview.
Alsgal firmly believes the April, 2007 breakup (if not an agreed upon plan between PW&KM to throw off the press and public) was likely PW’s way of testing Kate — to see if she would talk for a few million pounds. To gauge her true loyalty, even when it seemed she had lost him.
Kate passed with flying colors, although Alsgal would probably not have shown quite that much leg during the Rebound Clubbing Phase, particularly as when big-legged Alsgal wears fishnets, dolphins die.
So, perhaps SAR was again agreed upon by both parties to buy them more alone time (Kate more time to do whatever it is she does all day) or, perhaps again this was another one of PW’s tests by fire.
Again, Kate passed.
PW, at this point, after putting KM through all his loyalty tests, might now be ready to give her that ultimate sign of trust, A Ring.
Kate, who despite many wondering whether she would have remained this faithful if PW was Jack Smith, has nonetheless shown herself well equipped for the slightly archaic role of Princess and Royal Consort.
Undemanding, content to pursue interests that please her Prince, and so on.
Let’s face it: all she has to do is make bland banal convo and dress well while smiling, plus pop out a few babies. Not much else to it. It’s not like she’ll be the actual Queen like HM is.
Re: Miguel head and the seeming flip flop in plans. William’s own dear mother was known to be suspicious of certain KP/BP flunkeys and often went around her own staff, via sneaking out, planting leaks gerself, changing plans, etc.
Might William have done this last fall as well?
May 27th, 2009 10:56
I don’t understand why people have such short memories.
When it was officially announced that William was going to become an RAF Search and Rescue Force pilot, it was also announced that he would be an SAR pilot based solely in the UK.
It was also announced that because William had received some previous training last year, he was given a short break with regards to certain beginners training classes because he’d already been through the classes once.
Deacon, you used the phrase “it was reported”. Would you please either provide the links to whatever it is that you claim was reported? If you have information that you can’t provided links to, then it becomes a question of believing your word.
I’ll be honest Deacon, I don’t believe your word.
The main reason I don’t believe your word is that you don’t provide any links to validate or back up what you say.
The second reason is because I believe you’re a member of the RT forum, and you’re advancing their often discussed plans to attempt to cause disruption and dissention at BRW. Please be aware that many of us are just too smart to fall for your untruths and tricks.
May 27th, 2009 10:57
But Deacon the POW site has the news from September 2009 and it clearly states that PW will STILL be doing royal duties while he is in the SAR/RAF training. Its old news.
Rome is tonight, 2 1/2 hour flight from London
May 27th, 2009 11:02
Whoops September 2008.
May 27th, 2009 11:04
Quote September 15, 2008
“The time I spent with the RAF earlier this year made me realise how much I love flying. Joining Search and Rescue is a perfect opportunity for me to serve in the Forces operationally, while contributing to a vital part of the country’s Emergency Services.”
In the time available between his training and operational commitments with the SARF, Prince William will continue to work with the organisations and charities with which he is associated, as well as carrying out some public Royal duties.
Unquote
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/prince_william_to_join_raf_search_and_rescue_1291894627.html
May 27th, 2009 11:12
Mapleleaf,thank you for your continued attention to facts and detail. I applaud your tenacity in responding to Deacon’s post which I read,shrugged my shoulders,shook my head and moved on. I am beginning to find some similar ideas in deacon and keds postings. It is interesting that both deacon and ked claim some knowledge of the goings on at some of the helicopter bases. I find that coincidental and noteworthy.
May 27th, 2009 11:19
Hale I understand but remember if the Queen acts now, there may be an election this year but even if it’s held next year it will not knock the wedding out of the water. I got my fingers crossed that next year, the wedding will happen. New government and royal wedding. The announcement will come guys, be patient.
Remember William’s training is preparing him for his future role as Monarch. The Duke of York pointed this out in an interview last year. He is given new opportunities and more depth of training. His royal engagements will increase and he will need help to carry them out, his wife will be very helpful.
May 27th, 2009 12:05
Hi Mapleleaf,
I asure you I do not post on any other internet site as you so clearly do. I am unable to specify exactly for personal reasons.I am not used to beig called a liar and the fact that you are so ungracious to allude to that most certainly detects you as a bigot and most certainly describes your character.Try taking lessons from such as Rman and others who do know how to behave, who criticise , argue but behave with decency something you have demonstrated above and previously.When you are unable to answer with clarity you frequently attack with platitudal comments again indicating the person you are
May 27th, 2009 13:05
Deacon and Mapleleaf,
I am sure people hate when I do this, but I will continue to do so when I see the need.
STOP CALLING PEOPLE NAMES!!!
Who cares if one person believes something is going on between Kate and PW and another person does not! We are all here to share whatever opinions, fantasies, and facts about the royals. There is no need to call anyone a liar, as well all speculate from time to time.
May 27th, 2009 13:18
Hi Clover,
No problem and you have my full agreement. We can all try to behave with decorum despite any disagreement but I do believe this is the first time on this site that a poster has been called ‘liar’ .I most certainly object to that.Thank you
May 27th, 2009 13:37
Deacon,
Thank you! : )
May 27th, 2009 13:39
Mathilde
Great link to the article. It’s so strange that Charlene and the two are not engaged yet since they are clearly have been brought into their countries version of the firm. Kate and William are a lot younger I think then any of the other couples mentioned. It seems like Prince Albert of Monaco and the other gentleman who lives with his girlfriend have reached the age where they simply tell their people she’s what I want and this is how it is going to be like it or lump it!
Mapleleaf is just frustrated with the negativity which is not backed up we all want a marriage for these two and the impatience I know is getting to me especially when the tabloids give us false hope after false hope..
May 27th, 2009 14:00
Again, lets be patient people.
May 27th, 2009 14:27
JJ,
Too bad about Albert though. Charlene would make a beautiful bride, but I definitly think Albert does have the “like it or lump it” attitude about marraige. Andrea will succeed Albert when all is said and done.
Thanks for the article Mathilde!
In any case, there is an article on the wedding of Prince Hubertus Michael of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. I wonder if Karl Gustav and Silvia are taking notes for their daughter’s wedding next year. LOL! Not the wedding everyone here is pining for, but fun news none-the-less.
http://tinyurl.com/qxpzhe
May 27th, 2009 14:37
I guess my reply about Rome and RAF is satisfactory with the links provided.
No worries, fisherman, bate and fish.
May 27th, 2009 14:44
William is in ROME in that football match, just saw him live on TV. Hope Kate is with him on the same trip, Rome is unique.
May 27th, 2009 14:46
Me, Please excuse my manners, but I switched over to RIF for a spell. Hey, please don’t be mad, your one of the last people I would want to offend.
Yes, thank you for providing the link to the POW site.
Meanwhile, Apprentice starting soon. But I did a bit of surfin on my own as well. Here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/2963186/Prince-Williams-shrewd-career-move.html
May 27th, 2009 14:47
Manchester United versus Barcelona. William is there doing official engagement because of his seat and suit.
IS KATE IN ROME TOO?
May 27th, 2009 14:53
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1187748/Kick-Prince-William-joins-30-000-Britons-Rome-Fergies-record-breakers-look-Champions-League-glory.html
May 27th, 2009 14:59
Oh no Hale and everyone else, just helping out with questions and replies or giving feed.
But, got to say when it comes from an official site, like the POW, IMO it should be taken as history.
May 27th, 2009 15:01
Shoot me ! Barcelona 1 Manchester 0
May 27th, 2009 15:14
Shoot me again Barcelona 2 Manchester 0
May 27th, 2009 15:40
2 shots of a stiff drink
May 27th, 2009 17:06
Me :laugh:
May 27th, 2009 17:07
Me…Sorry.
May 27th, 2009 17:26
Mapleleaf you are spot on. And you are great.
May 27th, 2009 22:16
Lisa, re: post #120; thank you! I just want you to know that I agree with just about everything you have to say because IMO, you’re usually right.
Guest, re: post #140; it was really, really sweet of you to say that I’m great, when we both know that I’m FAR from it!:lol: I’m probably the total opposite of great, as a matter of fact. But I do admire your plain-speaking and intuitive ideas. You and Hale and Rman often have the best ideas about things.
I’m just glad you and others understand why I said what I said to Deacon.
For those who don’t understand, I have read on yet another forum, about a deliberate….’plan’ to disrupt BRW. I used the word ‘plan’ because ‘plot’ just sounds melodramatic.
Anyway, I was told by someone who is in the know, that this plan was hatched on the RT forum. They don’t like Kate on that forum, and their plan is to come onto BRW using different Usernames, and say disruptive things about Wills and Kate’s relationship, and try to ’set the cat among the pigeons’ as my Nonna says.
Despite Deacon’s denial, I’m convinced that Deacon is one of those ‘planners’.
The fact that Deacon claims to know certain things about Wills and Kate, but never, ever has one single link or piece of evidence to back up his/her/their statements, is a huge red flag IMO.
Deacon doesn’t even attempt to explain how he/she/they come by this “knowledge” of Wills and Kate’s activities. Even that Sarah person who posted some comments last year regarding Kate’s presence at Charles’ Highgrove birthday celebrations was able to offer an explanation as to how she came by the knowledge she had.
Redlady explains how she comes by the information she has. Whether we believe these people or not, at least they’ve taken the time to give plausible explanations about where their information comes from. I am highly suspicious of people who say controversial things, but refuse to explain where their supposed ‘information’ comes from.
Deacon makes statements about knowing this or that about Wills’ military activities and Kate’s movements and activities, and offers us NOTHING that validates or proves that what they’re saying is correct. Deacon does not offer explanations as to how they came by this supposed ‘knowledge’ either.
I want everyone to know that I am not saying these things to be deliberately rude or nasty to anyone; I happen to think that being deliberately rude or nasty is just mean, unnecessary, and disrespectful.
I’m saying these things because I believe Deacon is attempting to be disruptive, and attempting to ’sucker’ unsuspecting people into believing his/her/their made-up stories, and I want anyone who might be susceptible to such a person to beware.
I myself do not make claims to have been given ‘reports’ about Wills and Kate’s activities. My info comes from the news, newspapers, magazine publications, and the internet. Very, very rarely, I will hear a tidbit of gossip from the friend of a friend, but so far that’s only happened one time in the last 3 years.
If I’ve heard a gossip tidbit that doesn’t come from a reputable source, I might repeat it, but I also make sure I explain to everyone that my ’source’ isn’t verifiable, so I’ll repeat it, but take it with a grain of salt, and suggest that others do the same.
I’m very straightforward, because I don’t see the point in attempting to mislead anyone. So when I see others being LESS than straightforward, I question their motives.
I realise that this forum is a fun place to discuss events and ideas and let off some steam, and I like BRW exactly the way it is right now. I’d hate to see this fun forum degenerate into one of those places where it’s an ‘Us against Them’ sort of situation, meaning those who don’t have a problem with William’s relationship with Kate having to continually face off against those who do. That isn’t fun at all, and I didn’t want to see that happen.
So Clover, I’m genuinely sorry if my speaking my mind came out as name-calling. Deacon, I’ve said all I’m going to say about this particular matter, I just wanted to let you know that I’m not falling for rubbish.
I hope I’m seen as a person who is attempting to be upfront, and not as a bad person who’s trying to be mean.
May 27th, 2009 22:46
its look like pw has many public appearances and i think if pw is on Rome watching sports kate will be their too
May 27th, 2009 22:51
Well said Mapleleaf. But I long ago suspected and then assumed Deacon is not on the up and up and could possibly even be a shared identity by those girls from those anti-Kate fora/forums. Reeks of latent, anti-Kate bias to me…
May 27th, 2009 22:53
…so I pretty much dismiss everything he/she says after the first few times he/she posted.
May 28th, 2009 03:04
Paul Burrell is despicable. He continues to betray Diana and those boys, along with his own family. Go get him Harry!!
May 28th, 2009 03:05
Deacon – You will always be found out!
May 28th, 2009 05:24
I think the ‘Deacon’ discussion has reached it’s conclusion. Thanks.