Never before seen photo of Kate Middleton surfaces
British newspaper The Mail on Sunday has published a never before seen photo of Kate Middleton.
The photo, taken in 2001, shows Kate dressed in clown makeup and taking part in a foam fight to mark the end of freshman week at St Andrews university.
It is one of a very small number of pictures that have been published showing Miss Middleton during her time at university.
In her early student days, Royal protocol would have been the last thing on Kate’s mind – but just weeks after this picture was taken she met Prince William and her carefree life would change for ever.
The photo lay undiscovered in a photographer’s collection until last week.
May 31st, 2009 07:09
Thanks for the photo,Steven. I have a couple of observations. First, it seems like Kate has gone from “waity katie” to Miss Middleton in the press. Good sign. It is about time she started getting some respect. Second, I hope hope hope this is not a result of W/K backing out of that wedding last weekend. So far their university pals have been loyal and kept their mouths shut. Hopefully they don’t decide to start cashing in now.
May 31st, 2009 08:26
when this photo taken
May 31st, 2009 08:38
To me this photo shows a young girl that is very down to earth and like to have fun. It’s true that in those early days she would have never known that she would be a possible future Queen.
May 31st, 2009 09:42
There’s that gorgeous smile again
And those pigtails… too cute!
Lisa, this is a very sweet and flattering picture. Its all “clean” fun . She looks very young, very British, so on and so forth. They have done her a favor, even if the intention was otherwise.
May 31st, 2009 10:19
Really a cute pic! She seems like such fun.
May 31st, 2009 10:34
Really, a lovely picture. Why publish it now? Just because it was discovered does not mean it had to published right this second. Part of the PR plan to show how pretty and fun she is?
There is nothing embarassing about that photo at all. So getting even or picking on her can’t be the point.
May 31st, 2009 11:11
I think the picture went with an artical on the growing speculation that an engagement is coming soon and they released this picture of her early days at St Andrews. She is truly a modern day future princess.
May 31st, 2009 11:29
Hello! What a lovely picture! Beautiful girl.
May 31st, 2009 11:30
What a gorgeous photograph. She looks so young and innocent. I know it’s a cliché to say this, but little did she know her life would change forever.
May 31st, 2009 13:22
It’s interesting to see how curly her hair is. She must spend a lot of time with the straighteners.I kind of like it curly.It doesn’t happen that often.
May 31st, 2009 14:38
That truly is a lovely picture of her. I wish I could see it better. Does anyone have a link?
May 31st, 2009 14:39
Britt I know, after all the young women in that school, she captured the heart of a prince. She must be something very special.
May 31st, 2009 15:33
Here’s the article the photo came from. I scanned it:
http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss220/mapleleaf09/DailyMail_31May09_pp3.jpg
May 31st, 2009 15:34
I forgot to mention, click the article to enlarge it so that you can read the text.
May 31st, 2009 15:40
A delightful young lady indeed !!!!
May 31st, 2009 16:49
Kate looks as if she is having the time of her life.
May 31st, 2009 17:27
Thanks for the scan ML.
May 31st, 2009 17:59
May 31st, 2009 23:27
i love this pic steve
June 1st, 2009 00:55
I just love that pic i wish we can see more pics of Kate like this it would be nice .
June 1st, 2009 05:57
Just to let everyone know, I’ve just seen this weeks copy of Hello. In the mag, there is a small piece about William going to Rome.
The article mentions the docu the BBC are planning, as well as the ITN docu, and goes on to say that a German TV channel are also making a programme about W & K.
Hello Mag, went on to say the wedding is marked for 2010 in the Summer.
June 1st, 2009 06:32
I get so cross when people in the papers and on other sites say that Kate is not attractive. She is beautiful and sophisticated. Its no wonder Prince William fell in love with her.
They will be a wonderful asset to the Royal Family and to this country.
June 1st, 2009 07:18
me @ 10 was not actually might comment, I was off for the weekend.
Nice picture.
June 1st, 2009 07:23
Hale,thanks for the heads up about the Hello! piece. I am sure by the time the engagement is announced we won’t be able to keep up with all the TV programs and specials about these two. It will be quite exciting.
Redlady,I feel your frustration but you just have to learn to ignore it and move on. Some of what I read while lurking on other sites is pretty comical,ranging from Kate used voodoo on William to Kate gate-crashes events like the Polo match and was not really invited. I love it, great stuff. LOL. I agree with you. They will be a huge asset. William is maturing nicely and becoming more comfortable in his role and I think Kate will do just fine.
June 1st, 2009 08:06
Me,… I noticed that. It didn’t sound like you and whats more the username is linked, which yours isn’t.
I’d love for that article to be true, but I’m not getting my hopes up. We are due for a general election next year. That’s why I am still thinking 2011.
Unless of course we have an autumn wedding.
June 1st, 2009 08:27
Saturday 13th June 2009
The Prince of Wales, The Duchess of Cornwall, Prince William and Prince Harry and will attend The Queen’s Birthday Parade, London.
http://tinyurl.com/mxrcfx
June 1st, 2009 08:42
Of course Kate didn’t use voodoo — she didn’t need to! And as Alsgal, who has 57 chicken bones hidden under Big Al’s side if the mattress, can testify — voodoo doesn’t work.
Beauty, charm, grace, intelligence and being available to one’s intended are what it’s all about. Case closed.
Sat, June 26, 2010 popped into the recesses of Alsgal’s psychotic mind just now — perhaps that will be the Date? Unless, Alsgal is thinking of Vicky in Sweden.
June 1st, 2009 10:24
Alsgal
June 26th could be fine. Victoria of Sweden is June 9th or 10th if I remember correctly. Lets hope it is next year. I don’t think I can make it to 2011. It’s so…. far… away….
June 1st, 2009 11:42
Hello,
Just aquick comment. I was amazed how PH came across on the interview from US. He is so confident and it really is a pitty than PW is so staid in comparison however PW seems to have been coached and is better than he was whilst PH is complely natural.
The promotion of PH since last Aug/Sept is strange and one wonders why the change in his private and public life. It’s almost as if there is a deliberate attempt to bring him to the fore. Does anyone remember if PA had similar attention over PC?
It does set the imagination running on a “What if…this… or that happens ?”
June 1st, 2009 12:12
So far William has had more public appearances than Harry so I don’t see any “plan” or promotion here. I think Prince William has done very well and can’t see that Harry is so much better or more natural. I bet if William had gone to NY he would have had some really good press too.
I think it’s sad that some people are thinking that if something happened to William, Harry would be so much better in that position. I really , really hope nothing happens to Wiliam and think that he is the best hair Britain could wish for.
June 1st, 2009 12:20
Geez ked,It really seems like you have some kind of ax to grind with William. Harry did great. William has done great recently as well. It was high time both princes shed their party boy images for a more positive one so I would say their PR person is doing a great job for both William and Harry.
June 1st, 2009 12:31
Well I think Harry is just changing and the whole trip was his idea and it was done his way. He really did do a lot in just two days and even had time to do a interview with Matt, the whole trip was very successful. I don’t think there is a deliberate attempt to bring him to the forefront but I think he just letting us know that he is growing up, moving on to bigger and better things and just taking things more seriously. I do think Ked that the team is helping him find a role for himself because he is the spare and his brother will have a much bigger role to play. Harry will help out his brother but it’s important for him to find his own role.
June 1st, 2009 12:50
I agree I think this is more to do with St. James Palace stepping up and sorting out their images. PH has had a lot of bad press the last couple of years actually they both have. Up until now they have both been portrayed as the play boy princes and now it looks as if they are getting down to work. I think the trip did wonders for Harry’s reputation it was planned down to the nano second IMO and went very smoothly. They both are good with people. Harry seems to be a little less bothered by the media but I am sure it effects them both. They are both getting older now and it is time that they start to get serious, otherwise they will end up like Prince Albert of Monaco.
June 1st, 2009 13:24
Harry does seem more comfortable with the media than Will. I have always thought he looked more natural and at ease when he is with the public. I think both boys care about helping others but Harry seems more approachable.
June 1st, 2009 13:33
I think William’s position in the royal family make people feel that way but once people get to know him, they feel relaxed in his presence.
June 1st, 2009 13:55
Ked, I have wondered that too. Perhaps the Queen might be realizing that more stock should be made into PH as he is essential for the future IMO. PH has the “Diana factor” dispite not be groomed for it and it is evident that it is something that comes from w/in and can’t be learned or practiced. It is what it is. PW will have alot to live up too when he comes around to NYC! I find it odd that PW was not the one who would come as he has not made an official visit to the U.S. either. PH was picked to do it instead. Puzzling. I am worried that PW has such an isssue about his privacy it could border on the obsessive and that would be difficult if one is going to be King. IMO.
June 1st, 2009 14:10
I doubt a trip to the US is regarded as so very important for the royal family. Doing things at home is more important for them. William would be chosen to do the most important jobs at home. I don’t think the Queen is hoping for a “Diana factor” in any of her grandchildren. I think she wants all her grandchildfen to find their right place in the firm, but that she knows that William will be the most important just because he is the heir. It doesn’t have much to do with who is the most charming, who is most natural,who is most like their mother,who has the most hair or who has been playing polo in America.
June 1st, 2009 14:20
Well William will get his turn to visit the U.S and it will probably be longer than two days. Harry really made the trip to support his charity and a list of other engagements was built around that. When William makes his trip, he will probably travel around a bit and have an official dinner with President Obama at The White House. Also William’s trip may be made so he can introduce his wife and future queen to the American people. I really do think the Queen is helping Harry out a bit to find his role, William will have bigger fish to fry so I’m sure they will be planning his trip in the near future.
June 1st, 2009 14:36
Both William & Harry are very popular members of the royal family and people turn out in great numbers to see them both. They have their own special qualities and flavor they bring to their royal roles. Both boys have a hint of their parents inner spirit but have their own special qualities.
June 1st, 2009 15:10
Ked, whilst I enjoy all your comments and share many of your concerns, I don’t feel that H is being brought more to the fore.
Whilst I agree that Andrew was kept in the background when Charles was younger, Anne was not. People seem to have forgotten, that Anne was viewed and treated as the one who wore the black hat to Charles’ white hat.
I do recall when young, Anne was publicly interviewed several times, as well as a one hour special on tv which followed her around for several months. Anne writes her own speeches by the way.
The other special docu I remember watching, and now I shall be showing my age, was when I was a child, Anne went to Africa with Valerie Singleton in tow.
Looking back, I would say that Anne has done more TV interviews than W & H put together, when she was there age.
June 1st, 2009 15:13
Meanwhile, to the poster Me at comment nos: 30 & 37, are you aware that you are using somebody else’s username?
June 1st, 2009 15:39
I am sure she (he) is aware, it is not the first timer. So many nicknames available.
June 1st, 2009 16:31
Hale, Ked et al,
I think that Andrew’s role was a lot like PH. Though I was pretty young at the time, I had an aunt who was head over heels crazy for Andrew, and there was lots of press about him. I still remember her bedroom when she babysat for me, covered in Andrew posters (one with a really funny cartoon rose across his mouth). She told me she kept a album of magazine articles, and she remembers at least one TV interview — maybe that had to do with the Faulklands, but that is yet another similarity.
Didn’t realize that Anne had lots of press too, but then again, my aunt probably wasn’t so interested in her
June 1st, 2009 16:32
I still have that aunt
… what has died down is her ardor for Prince Andrew
June 1st, 2009 16:45
@ post #29:
Harry does seem very sweet and genuine, and I think he must be fun and enjoyable to be around.
However, Wills is just as warm and approachable as Harry when he’s around children.
At one of Wills’ Royal appearances this year, a little 8 year old girl actually asked Wills to marry her. Her marriage proposal is on video!
Other children have said what they liked most about Wills is that, and I quote directly “he’s so down to earth and approachable, just like one of the lads.”
People say that Wills isn’t approachable, but he actually is. Wills always has a big smile for everyone, he speaks to everyone, and he goes out of his way to shake as many hands as he can.
Wills seems to be very natural and at ease and comfortable around children, he always does a great job with them. Wills has even sat on the floor of a bus with children, he did that just last year.
Here is an absolutely FANTASTIC video of Wills with hundreds of children at JCB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92R4yYHsZM
And a wonderful story of Wills with the children who came to see him earlier this month at the Kingshurst Sporting FC:
http://tinyurl.com/mqhz4l
Some of the children’s comments at Kinghurst were just priceless:
“Leanne Hutchins, aged 12, said: “I thought it was nice of him to come round and actually shake your hand. He is quite kind. You can see his mum Diana in his face.” ”
This is a wonderful tidbit:
“Goalkeeper Jake Taylor, aged 13, was left prizing the glove Prince William shook. He said: “He is a hero. I’m never washing this glove again. I’m shaking – look.” ”
That child was so happy to meet Wills that he said he would never wash his glove again!
Those happy remarks are the type of thing that’s said about someone who is likeable, approachable, and warm.
Obviously those children did not feel that Wills was a cold, reserved who didn’t interact with them.
It doesn’t take anything away from Harry to acknowledge that Wills is just as warm and wonderful with children as Harry is.
Harry is still adorable, fun to be around, and probably a joy to interact with. I just wanted to point out that Wills doesn’t have to be unfairly maligned just to say good things about Harry.
Harry is wonderful and sweet all by himself; I don’t understand why Wills should have to be spoken of negatively in order to give Harry the appreciation and recognition he so richly deserves.
June 1st, 2009 17:02
Mapleleaf, very well said, as usual.
June 1st, 2009 17:02
Alsgal heard a rumor Harry was going down to Delaware
to meet a friend named Bess? Any one else here hear that?
June 1st, 2009 17:08
alsgal, please, please, don’t leave us in suspense. Tell us more.
Anyway, how would he find the time? Harry didn’t even attend the after match part because he had to fly home.
So we are told. Do you have other information.
June 1st, 2009 17:13
Alsgal, don’t leave us hanging!
June 1st, 2009 17:21
alsgal, you know thinking back, it was you who was the first to tip us off about the ‘press agreement’, in regards to Kate.
You were right to. Clever girl.
So, who is the girl in Delaware?
June 1st, 2009 17:40
Hey people
Ella on royal romance has finally solved the Robin Nunn mystery. The book will ONLY be released when their engagement is announced. There you have it. Link below BRW i hope this is ok
http://royal-romance.net/
June 1st, 2009 17:54
I’m not surprised.
June 1st, 2009 17:55
Oops, forgot my manners.
jj…..Thank you very much for that info.
June 1st, 2009 18:05
Thanks for that JJ, I had a feeling that was why the book haven’t been released yet. My co-workers just heard me shout alittle when I saw that link, lol.
June 1st, 2009 18:13
No problem. The only thing that still confuses me is if it was to coincide with an engagment in the first place, then why was the announcement delayed?
June 1st, 2009 18:23
Maybe the couple changed their mind on the engagement date. Maybe this could be the month we hear something.
June 1st, 2009 18:41
Sorry, if I sound like a stuck record, but I truly believe it was on the cards for these two to marry this year.
What changed.
William announcing he would train with the S & R. It put a delay on things. Unfortunate, for all those authors. Robin Nunn’s publishers have their heads screwed on. They saw how Claudia Joseph’s book bombed, and chose not to release Nunn’s.
June 1st, 2009 18:54
monsters and critices is reporting that scottland yard is adding 150 additional officers to the royal protection team? just after they said that some lesser royals might not get them any longer. overtime is the “official” reason. just wonering if ….they could be staffing up for an addition to The Firm?
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1480662.php/More_protection_for_British_royals
June 1st, 2009 19:13
Hale for some reason I don’t think that was the reason why there was a delay but I really do think the economy messed with their plans a bit and even Ingrid Seward agreed to that. I also think William & Kate has chosen to get married and continue his training, killing two birds with one stone. So announcement can come at anytime but next year I get the feeling that wedding will take place.
June 1st, 2009 19:18
Well it was said that CH and STJ will have to do some adjustments when they marry and Kate will be assigned some protection officers when the official announcement is made but I don’t think this is the major cause for them to add more officers.
June 1st, 2009 19:24
Just to add to my post #59, Robin Nunn’s book is more on an official footing than Claudia Joseph’s book was so Robin may have have known that the dates was changed so they didn’t release the book. Robin is an insider and Claudia is not.
June 1st, 2009 19:35
I think the delay in the engagement was caused by KM getting cold feet, after she saw how her family was brutalized in the press.
June 1st, 2009 19:39
I guess my suspicions about the Robin Nunn project were correct. I guess there is a first for everything! LOL!
June 1st, 2009 19:46
Lisa, lol. Well I look forward to the announcement and book.
June 1st, 2009 19:46
Yes Rman
I’m inclined to agree I don’t think KM warrants that many extra security guards although who knows maybe they are planning for the future 5 year plan and all that? I Can’t wait until all of these questions are answered in years to come.. I want to know what it is all been about!
June 1st, 2009 19:51
So, Alsgal, are you from Missouri?
June 1st, 2009 19:55
I can’t wait for the interview so we can finally know some actual facts.
June 1st, 2009 21:40
Rman,
what interview…?
June 1st, 2009 21:50
The titile of the Ella piece was that the book is slightly delayed. I wonder what” just slightly” means?
June 1st, 2009 22:16
I wish they would have the shortest engagement ever and get married already this summer. LOL
June 1st, 2009 22:42
Well,Maddie,I doubt this summer is possible but they could still announce soon and wed in the fall. As Rman is so fond of saying,and wisely so, we just have to wait, be patient and let William and Kate play their hand out. At least we know that we will get Robin Nunn’s book once the announcement is made and it will be quite a collectors item to have….I am glad mine is pre ordered because once the announcement is made,I bet that book will sell out.
June 1st, 2009 22:51
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1190191/Why-Prince-Harry-thinks-Piers-Morgan-prat-Amanda-Holden-told-so.html
yeah its true lisa and rman
update
June 1st, 2009 23:12
I was thinking the same thing too Lisa that you posted earlier about how they called her Miss Middleton. It is very obvious to me she loves having fun and smiling it is not just for the paps like some believe. I hope the RF doesn’t suck the life out of her.
June 1st, 2009 23:55
Let’s hope not Maddie. She should after 6 years of dating pw know exactly what she is getting into & she hasn’t run for the hills yet, so hopefully she should be “fine”.
June 2nd, 2009 02:33
Just to add I was in B again last evening. Much excitement still reigns! All seem to think announcement could be this month with wedding in September – who knows? How is wish it happens, everything crossed.
June 2nd, 2009 04:52
http://www-ah.st-andrews.ac.uk/dissertation-database/index.php?type=hon
June 2nd, 2009 05:57
Redlady,thanks for keeping us updated. I suppose anything is possible regarding the engagement. June is a pretty full month for the BRF and squeezing in a huge announcement like this could be tough but you never know. It would really be nice to end all this silly speculation and be able to talk about a wedding! Cross everything you got!
June 2nd, 2009 08:42
Redlady – thanks for the pub gossip. I do wish they would just announce already and get it over with. And really what is the big deal w/getting the announcement done? As I recall – the announcement of PC & Diana was just a day thing. And yes, the interview would be very exciting to see! Just like their whole relationship – I suppose the announcement will take everyone off guard- it will probably be on a day when no one expects it.
June 2nd, 2009 08:59
IDK
I still don’t feel as if anything is coming this year. I’m sorry but it just doesn’ feel right.I would love to be wrong but…
June 2nd, 2009 09:22
Morning Everyone,
Yeah it will come soon, soon can mean this year or early next year. This is a couple that really do everything in the traditional way so it could come at anytime and I really thing they want to spring a surprise on us and not have the media speculating on which day it will happen.
The announcement is not really a big thing and it really don’t involve the royals to help make the announcement. Usually a photo of the couple is released along with the statement, the Queen will release a statement, Charles release a statement and even the Middleton’s will release a statement but it’s nothing that will take up anyones time and the royals will continue to go about their daily lives. A royal engagement interview will follow on the day they schedule it for so none of of this requires the royals to have free time so an announcement can be made. CH or STJP will release some facts about the couple and there will be some news coverage, the BBC and other networks will run bio’s/ docs. It’s an event I’m looking forward to.
June 2nd, 2009 09:24
Sorry I meant to say “This is a couple that really don’t do everything in the traditional way”.
June 2nd, 2009 09:32
Something doesnt smell nice about one of the young EU Princess. I wish the announcement (if ever there’ll be any), would be made before the rumours spread about this Princess. Bad news travel fast.
June 2nd, 2009 09:34
Pretty what EU Princess?
June 2nd, 2009 10:05
Rumours start somewhere. And this time I think one is started here right now. So please don’t help spreading it.
June 2nd, 2009 10:10
^Why do you keep on using my username ?! OT, speculations has always existed.
June 2nd, 2009 10:23
Pretty – who are you talking about and what rumor?
June 2nd, 2009 10:33
Dear Steve,
Could you please check this out. Someone keeps using Me’s username.
I did post yesterday, asking the blue linked Me was she aware of it? In view of the fact she failed to respond, clearly she is doing this on purpose.
I do not think it right. Is it possible that you could intervene here?
** BRW – I have changed the other Me’s username so you can tell who’s who. I don’t think there’s anything malicious going on here, but obviously it gets confusing. I’m having a look at the whole username issue at the moment. **
June 2nd, 2009 14:47
My apologise the post went through before I edited it. Please dont take this seriously im only mentioing it on a casual note. My intention was actually to respond to post 78. Despite announcement speculation, there are those ‘joy killers’ who still believe PW will marry someone within the royal circle.
Subsequently, there is some gossip that one of the senior royals is suspected to be trying to twist PW’s eye and mind to Princess CC of Monaco.
To prevent the fire from spreading, may we please not go deep about this, Im talking about it ‘only just’. PW is mature enough to make his own choices and decisions we all know that, therefore no worries please.
June 2nd, 2009 16:44
I was not aware that the two had ever met? I would imagine that Princess Caroline would want better for CC than the boyfriend she is currently dating. He looks a little sketchy IMO. She is still very young though and looks like she dislikes the media as much as PW does. I think alot of people think they would be a beautiful couple, but unless PW is interested in her it will be another arranged marriage. I could see her w/Harry as she looks to have a wild streak in her and unlike PW she has her boyfriend w/her constantly. He is always in the background. I’m sure the Grimaldi would like nothing more but to cement a royal union.
June 2nd, 2009 16:56
LOL, there were many who thought William would marry a princess from another royal family but that don’t seem to be his style, he met his future wife in college. Charlotte Casiraghi is a beautiful girl and looks just like her mother but she is still a kid and I’m sure her prince will come along sometime in the future.
June 2nd, 2009 17:08
Pretty, it’s out there now so what could come out that would not be nice about this EU princess? Is she two-timing w/another royal?
June 2nd, 2009 17:51
Pretty, I understand what you’re saying now. And I hope that you and any others who heard those ‘rumours’ will set your minds at ease, because it is highly unlikely that Charlotte Casiraghi even notices or cares that Wills exists, and even more unlikely that Wills cares that Charlotte exists.
Although Charlotte C. is absolutely GORGEOUS, her life is far removed from the UK and the rules and regulations of the British Royal Family. Charlotte C. seems to have a true European outlook on life, and she really seems to enjoy France, Monaco, and the jet-set lifestyle.
Wills isn’t a jet setter and he probably never will be. Charlotte C. doesn’t seem to be into any sort of country pursuits at all, and Wills is into ALL of them.
Not only that, but I don’t think Charlotte would enjoy being a spectator and cheering Wills on at his polo matches, and Wills doesn’t seem to be that keen on lounging on the deck of a yacht moored somewhere on the French Riviera or the coast off Monte Carlo.
The Charlotte Casiraghi rumour is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of some people who dislike seeing Wills and Kate together, it’s their last gasp before reality sets in and they have to face facts.
June 2nd, 2009 19:07
Hale, there are actually at least two people posting under the name Pretty. One of them recently has mentioned about it:
“I would like to respond to your questions Sall, (post no. 65) unfortunately im not even supposed to be posting at all on this site. In the past someone has written negatively about KM under my name.
Kd yes I do know KM personally.”
Posted By Pretty On May 7, 2009 @ 6:07 am
June 2nd, 2009 19:27
Hello,
Interesting posts.
You may recall that several weeks ago I made a comment about ‘the lady from the pub’ who supposedly lived near and knew KM and warned that her comments were in fact rubbish and alluding to many of the points made by Hale above.
I was upbraided in a nasty way by another poster who recently seems to have changed her mind on the subject both here and elsewhere.
Odd?
June 2nd, 2009 19:34
Hale, I am going to call you “Wonder Woman!”
June 2nd, 2009 19:35
Hello folks,
I just came across a very nice video tribute to William & Kate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c42lSwyiSk
I totally agree with the little sentence that the person wrote in the info bar.
June 2nd, 2009 19:36
Ked, I am just glad you still post. Congrats by the way! She must be a lucky lady.
June 2nd, 2009 19:39
I think there are more than a few “Miss Flite”s on this forum, and they’re not all women.
June 2nd, 2009 20:06
Good find Rman. There were a couple of pics of them I had never seen before. How can anyone not see they adore each other. Kate gazes so lovingly at William! What man would not be madly in love with such a beautiful woman who seems to adore him even with his flaws. She is definitely not in it for the crown like some believe. You can’t fake the way she looks at him. It is genuine!!!
June 2nd, 2009 20:16
I agree with everyone else Charlotte is too young for PW.
However, you can not argue that she and PW do not have much in common. Charlotte and PW have much in common.
“Charlotte is also a keen horsewoman, having developed a passion for equestrian sports as a youngster she’s competed in amateur showjumping events since 1998.”
Charlotte is an up and coming European Equestrian very much like PW’s cousin Zara.
The BRF likes horses and Charlotte like horses.
Charlotte would not have a problem being around the polo set, seeing that she is horsewoman.
Charlotte competed at the Spanish Jumping Championship, Global Champion Tour to be Celebrated in Valencia – May 7-10, 2009
http://www.hellomagazine.ca/royalty/2009/05/08/athina-charlotte/
Charlottle competed in the Barbizon – 2009/April
http://www.jump-results.com/OPEN/barbizon09/13.pdf
June 2nd, 2009 20:44
Alsgal here, and not to pull a Ked or Deacon on ya but the headed south to Delaware rumour in ref. to Harry’s visit in NYC was a rumor that Alsgal’s hairdresser Stanley repeated to Alsgal.
Stanley’s exact words, and Alsgal will quote:
“Ooooo, did ya see that Prince Harris from Great Britain was in Manhattan? Oooooo, he is good lookin’! Yum! I heard he was going to the clubs and my friend Marcus, you met Marcus, you know the one who goes to the clubs, you know that’s his thing. Well, Marcus said he was meeting up with some lady named Bess.
When Alsgal quired, who the heff is Bess, Stanley replied:
“Oooo, I dunno. She’s from Delaware or Baltimore or somethin’.”
So, there you have it. Alsgal is reporting the who, what, when, why and what’s up of what she has heard. Alsgal can tell you no more, because Alsgal knows no more.
BTW, has anyone see Kate Middleton on the cover of Tatler this month? She looks stunning, absolutely stunning, almost reminds one of a younger, less Botoxed Liz Hurley.
June 2nd, 2009 20:51
Alright, I’ll state the obvious: it is Liz Hurly.
June 2nd, 2009 21:02
Hale @ Post #93, a DEVASTATING analysis. All you need is the court caption, Respectfully submitted, and a Certificate of Service and you could file that post with a court! LOL!
To those little girls who continue to attempt to come here to BRW spread lies about Kate & William under shared nics, our advice is to GIVE….IT….UP. We’re all on to all of you. Go back to those Kate Hate forums where you are free to spew hatred about a couple you’ve never met and never will. Thanks!
LOL
Hale: you and Mapleleaf can open a detective agency!!
June 2nd, 2009 21:09
You’re forgetting that Charlotte is Roman Catholic. That’s one obstacle in the way of her marrying into the royal family. Also, no British monarch since George V has married someone without significant British connections. Even Prince Phillip, who is Greek and German/Danish, grew up in the household of Lord Mountbatten, went to a Scottish boarding school, and served in the British Royal Navy. Charlotte is strictly a Continental.
June 2nd, 2009 21:18
Ursula, Alsgal begs your Grey Poupon, and doesn’t wish to argue, but Alsgal has seen the cover of Tatler and it very clearly shows a picture of Kate along with “Kate Middleton’s Bold New Look” on the cover. That white dress is gorgeous, and Kate’s hair looks fantastic as usual.
June 2nd, 2009 21:19
Alsgal, missed ya! Your hairdresser knows alot of info, but most do as everyone usually tells them their business.
June 2nd, 2009 21:26
Let me add that yes Charlotte is stunning, but she can very pouty towards the press and just in general. She seems like a girl who is used to getting her way and looks quite unhappy in pics when she does not. That would not bode well for William and it shows that she has not fully matured yet. Maybe ten years down the road, but William is not her type. This guy she is dating now looks like he needs a shower and for lack of better word a thug although I know he comes from money. I just don’t see it. Charlotte seems to take after her mother and picks bad boys.
June 2nd, 2009 21:27
Guest,
You have met Kate?
Ursula,
1. How can you say Charlotte doesn’t have British connections? Princess Diana and Princess Grace were great friends! Remember.
2. Ernst August, Prince of Hanover is a senior male-line descendant of George V of Hanover and hence also of George III of the United Kingdom. You say not connection to BRF?
3. Didn’t Charlotte’s Mother Princess Caroline have to recieve permission from William’s grandmother Queen Elizabeth before she married Ernst Hanover?
“Since he was born in the line of succession to the British crown he was bound by the Royal Marriages Act 1772. Thus before his marriage to Princess Caroline he made a formal request to obtain permission from Queen Elizabeth II, which request was granted by the Queen in Council. Without the Royal Assent, the marriage would have been void in Britain, and may have threatened Ernst August’s right to petition for resumption of the dormant Duchy of Cumberland.”
4. Charlotte’s stepfather and half-sister, Princess Alexander are Protestant.
I really think IF, that is a big IF, PW and Charlotte fell in love and wanted to get married. I bet the Queen would say yes.
June 2nd, 2009 21:36
As a BIG Charlotte fan myself, all I can say is…
OF COURSE PW is not interested in Charlotte that way! He can clearly see that she is the fated lifelove of his brother, Harry
Alsgal, can you share info about this hairdresser of yours? I’ll go the extra mile to get a haircut and daily dish from him, if you know what I mean!!!
June 2nd, 2009 21:43
Charlotte is not British. PW will marry someone who is British, as his father, and his grandmother, and his great-grandfather did.
June 2nd, 2009 21:43
Gracie, missed ya too dear
and let me just say my Stanley Bonaventure seems to know about everything but hair.
After last weekend’s incident, let’s just say Alsgal wishes she had Prince Charles’ mane thanks to Mr. Stanley inadvertently taking out a major spot in the back with his Clairol Magic Wand curling iron, literally, a Poof! and there was no magic dragon, honey
Also:
a) don’t ever drink before visiting a un-board certified cosmetologist because you might find yourself, as Alsgal did, passed out under the blow dryer 4 hours later with your purse gone and your car keys taped to your cankles
b)As Tatler cover girl Kate could probably attest, beauty is neither painless nor cheap.
Alsgal is going back to saving her pennies, pesos, and yuans and is taking follicular matters into her own hands.
So, just warning ya Alsgal might not be able to pass on Stanley’s hot scoops.
June 2nd, 2009 21:45
Sorry, Alsgal, Ursula can also see quite clearly, and the covergirl is Liz Hurly.
June 2nd, 2009 21:49
Ursula,
She is a Princess. Where is it written that PW can’t marry European Royalty?
June 2nd, 2009 21:55
With all due respect, Alsgal believes that’s a goat, Ursula, and not being able to see “below deck” if you know what Alsgal means
could not say whether that goat is a he or a she. Although Alsgal does believe the horns would indicate a “he”?
Farm experts, help Alsgal out here!
Sojourner, Mr Stanley has not been seen since last Saturday but is believed to be headed to St. Paul, Minnesota in a 1978 Chrysler LeBaron where he has known kin.
Or known Ken; Alsgal is uncertain.
June 2nd, 2009 22:28
Maddie I agree with you, Kate is a very beautiful young woman and the couple look very happy in those pictures.
June 2nd, 2009 23:14
“Where is it written that PW can’t marry European Royalty?”
Nowhere as far as I know. Never said that. Read carefully, instead of jumping to conclusions.
June 2nd, 2009 23:30
Ursula,
I think I am going to let you have the last word on this topic. I’m done.
June 3rd, 2009 02:22
awwww Charlotte Casiraghi is sooo pretty. i wish, she will have one night memory with PW or PH.
Sorry guys, I just like the fairytale story like the princess met a prince. A real princess and real prince together.
But Kate is awesome too :-p
June 3rd, 2009 03:38
Ked, take note that there are those of us on this forum who value your comments, and I am one of them.
With regards to the Tatler cover. It should be noted that what is on the cover in England, isn’t necessarily the same everywhere.
In light of Harry’s visit to NY, I daresay any royal story in the States would have sold well due to the publicity surrounding Harry’s visit.
Hence in England and possibly elsewhere, Liz Hurley is on the cover, but if I was the editor of Tatler those copies I have distributed in the US would have KM on the cover, by way of ‘cashing’ on Harry’s visit.
June 3rd, 2009 05:25
gracie,
not to belabored the Charlotte thing, but the girl is not royalty. She is techically a private citizen. I guess Id pout if I where harassed by paps and did not have a grandma or a pa saying “Buck up, its part of the job”
Not that she has any job I can tell…
June 3rd, 2009 07:52
Thank you Steve. I appreciate you sorting that matter out.
June 3rd, 2009 08:23
I can’t believe people are even mentioning that there are others trying to link PW w/a princess. PW, to the publics knowledge has never dated a princess. I mean I guess you could say that the- what did Diana call them – the men in grey, probably do not like the fact that PW is involved w/ a commoner, but we all know PW has a mind of his own and will do what he likes and maybe that is why the engagement annoncement has taken so long and maybe that is why he signed up longer for the military – to show the men in grey that they cannot tell him what to do. Just a thought.
June 3rd, 2009 09:30
I haven’t been on my PC for the last 24 hours and didn’t know I had caused such a “stir”. I ask you all to believe me when I tell you that I wasn’t aware that there was another poster who had used “me” before me. It’s a username I have used on other forums and in other situations and probably here too. I have no intention whatsoever to pretend being somebody else or steal somebody’s username. I suppose I don’t read often or well enough so the fact that there was a”me” was unknown to me. If I post again I will use another name. Is “meg” taken?
** BRW – Hi. It’s not a problem, completely understandable. Meg is fine – we welcome your comments! **
June 3rd, 2009 10:25
Kd,
PW will marry the woman he loves. It could be Kate Middleton or someone else. We will know soon enough.
I don’t see anything along the lines of an arranged or orchestrated marriage for PW or PH.
We are seeing a new trend in all the royal families, they tend pick their own life partners.
In this modern world many royals are free to love and marry people from all walks of life.
June 3rd, 2009 11:03
Hale,
I’m in the US, and my copy of Tatler has Liz Hurley on the cover. I think it’s probably the same cover everywhere.
But anyway, I think absgal is joking about the cover. : )
June 3rd, 2009 11:08
Sorry…I meant to say alsgal.
June 3rd, 2009 11:16
Sojo, I agree she is not royalty, but her family are on the public stage and unlike Zara, Charlotte attends royal functions w/her Uncle and hands out trophy like she was a royal. IMO she is a royal w/o a title and she has been raised no different than say Princess Eugenie. How often do you see Zara hand out trophies next to Prince Charles?
June 3rd, 2009 11:17
Hmmm…
I think it’s Liz Hurley cozying up to the goat, although she really does look like Kate in the photo. Judge for yourselves:
http://tinyurl.com/q7cqy4
The tag line about Kate and Liz’s looking so much like Kate are teasers to sell magazines…
June 3rd, 2009 11:18
I did not know you could get Tatler in U.S. Did you get at a major bookstore chain?
June 3rd, 2009 11:37
Guys that’s Elizabeth Hurley on the front cover of Tatler and in the magazine, there is a Kate lookalike that is modeling clothing that they suggest Kate could wear but no Kate is not really featured in the magazine. It just show pictures of her and her lookalike modeling some new fashion stuff.
June 3rd, 2009 11:42
Members of the RF have been choosing their own wives for sometime.
I do recall, that the Q did try to orchestrate a marriage between Charles & Princess Marie of Lichtenstein. But Charles wasn’t having any of it.
I can’t remember the last arranged marriage. When George V was duke of york, Q Victoria was keen that he should marry Princess Mary. Which as you know, she was previously betrothed to George V’s brother, the duke of Clarence.
The royal historian, Sarah Bradford, always felt that something was going on between George & Mary long before they became engaged.
June 3rd, 2009 12:06
Hale,
Thanks for those examples! Very interesting!
I am not saying that someone will not try to arrange/orchestrate and royal marriage for PW/PH, but if the royal target is opposed to the match then it will not go very far!
IMO both PW and PH will follow their hearts when it comes to marriage.
June 3rd, 2009 12:13
It just goes to prove that the royals and royal courtiers approve of Kate and they have embraced her. William was allowed to follow his heart, the proof is in the pudding.
June 3rd, 2009 12:22
Hi again everyone,
Yesterday evening I heard a William and Kate engagement theory that I had not considered before and wanted to share with the group.
A business acquaintance from the UK learned that I am a big fan of William and Kate’s relationship. Paraphrasing slightly, this is a summary of what he said: “Oh, that’s a done deal, as you Americans say. The private engagement is official. It was done around the girl’s (Kate’s) birthday. It’s getting William to go public with it that’s the problem. He’s concerned that a public announcement will cause a frenzy from the time it’s annouced until the wedding. Look for a very short engagement. William would elope to Scotland if he could….”
He then went on about how William’s marrying into a “business” family would be good for business in England, as he would hear about the challenges business owners face first hand….as opposed to being surrounded only by people who are insulated by hereditary money.
So perhaps a wedding later this summer or in the early autumn is not out of the cards.
I don’t know what this gentleman based his statements on, whether it’s conjecture or some knowledge of the situation. He was very confident and unhesitating in his statements. He is a high-level executive at a very large international company and is quite wealthy.
I had a million questions for him, but given the social function we were attending and the fact that I don’t know him well (and the fact that my husband was shushing me) I couldn’t get any questions in….
However, I could see William and Kate, under very different circumstances, marrying in a quiet ceremony in Scotland, where they have had some of their happiest moments.
June 3rd, 2009 12:39
I think that is a very possible scenario Stephanie. I think the engagement will be very short and would not be surprised if they married this year.
June 3rd, 2009 12:40
Wasn’t the beloved QM a commoner?
Stephanie – now that is some real good gossip and believable at that! I can see PW being very reluctant becuase of the press frenzy – we already have seen how they were w/ KM before an engagement (& that may explain why KM when into hiding). I am sure all that craziness just brings up sad memories for PW about Diana, & probably want to protect KM as much as he can. That would be SO exciting to have a short engagement and have the wedding in the late summer/early fall.
June 3rd, 2009 12:58
Gracie,
Yep, you can get Tatler (as well as most international magazines) in the US. I bought my copy at Barnes and Noble.
June 3rd, 2009 13:15
IDK
I’m still thinking next year folks. Can’t see it happening this year at all. If your man knows what he is talking about Stephanie I would love to have a wedding this year but I still don’t feel as if the timing is right….
June 3rd, 2009 13:18
I’ve always thought Prince William and Kate would marry next summer, after the training phase of William’s SAR career is complete.
However, it is plausible that William would want to make the wedding as unexpected as possible to minimize the inevitable media circus. Kd, you make a really good point about it bringing up memories of his mother….
It’s not likely I’ll see that gentleman from the UK again soon, as my husband’s employer has been downsizing its corporate functions–but I have a few questions I’d really like to ask him!
June 3rd, 2009 13:55
Yes I think it will all happen next year, I believe. An announcemet can come at anytime but I think next year will be the wedding.
I also believe that it really did happen early this year but now that the BBC released their tip, I think an announcement is not that far away.
I’m looking forward to seeing some pictures this weekend.
June 3rd, 2009 14:49
The event on Saturday is shown on TV. So maybe Kate won’t be there. I wouldn’t be surprised. Maybe a little disappointed though.
June 3rd, 2009 15:03
I personally always felt that W & K had an agreement.
As for W marrying into a business family and then learning about the challenges of it, I for one do not think that the royals are that cushioned. Remember, PC himself, is a very successful businessman through his Duchy of Cornwall products.
The royals, meet and socialise with businessman all the time. They meet them through charities and they socialise with them in order to raise interest for their charities. Best examples of this, is again PC & PP.
As for W trying to avoid media frenzy. We all know how he was affected by the press fenzy surrounding his mother. However, once W marries and takes up full royal duties, the media frenzy would not go away because of the wedding being done and dusted.
You have to consider the state the press is in now. Circulation of newspapers is way down compared to 10 years ago. Thanks to internet and Satelite Tv. News hounds will be desperate to try and reverse that.
I suspect this time they will be quite brutal. Each paper competing with the other for the most sensational headlines.
Unfortunately for William, he will have to come to terms with this.
June 3rd, 2009 15:15
I could totally see PW and KM getting married in Scotland. Although most people think he has to have a huge wedding, etc., he is in a different position at this time compared to when PC married Diana as PC is the Queen’s son and heir. Fergie and Andrew also had a large one, but Edward and Sophie did not in comparison. I think PW will go Ed and Sophie route. PW is not required to invite all foreign dignitaries as he is not the heir yet. I don’t think PW would be comfortable w/a public, huge wedding. I am not saying that there would not be alot of people attending, infact if he had his way he would probably prefer something similiar to JFK Jr. wedding to Caroline Bessette. Just close family and friends and issue of one or two pics only. I would be shocked if it is televised as he seems phobic about the public attention. IMO.
June 3rd, 2009 16:12
Charles was the Queen’s heir to the throne so that’s why he had a big state wedding, it’s most likely that William won’t have a big wedding like his parents but it will be pretty big. Family, some other royals, friends and members of their charities will most likely be in attendence. William knows the wedding will be a media frenzy, infact all royal weddings are a media frenzy and knows he really can’t escape that so I don’t think that remains to be a problem. This year they seem to be focused on his training but next year I believe it will all take place. Yeah Gracie I think it will be televised, that would anger the public if it wasn’t televised so yeah I think it will be. I don’t think William’s is totally scared of the media like people think, he don’t really like it but knows he has to deal with it. This couple has learned how to control the press they get, they remain private and only give us a couple of appearences so they pretty much got this in the bag now. As Judy Wade was pointing out, after the wedding and honeymoon the couple will get back down to their private lives and back to training, they will do a couple of engagements and that will probably increase a bit but they won’t become full time royals until William finishes his training. To me it seems like they are taking a Edward & Sophie route. They have the time to do this so I think it’s great.
June 3rd, 2009 16:44
Well, I just wish it would happen as I am getting anxious and I live my life vicarously through them and w/the economy going to crap we need a little joy and cheer! Plus I want to see the ring.
June 3rd, 2009 17:03
LOL I know what you mean Gracie, I try to remain positive about a couple I don’t even know but I just believe we all have to remain patient and it will happen. This is the most anticipated engagement I have ever seen.
June 3rd, 2009 18:37
Hale, excellent detective work and that does indeed appear to be Liz Hurley on the cover of Tatler, who while a beauty, just lacks Kate’s star appeal as far as Alsgal is concerned.
Tatler has the same cover worldwide, whether one is in England, France, Brazil, Canada or Australia so I am pretty sure that what you are seeing is a woman in a white dress next to a very attractive goat.
It’s obvious to Alsgal that LaLiz is attempting to make herself look like Kate, which was admirable but not quite successful.;)
June 3rd, 2009 20:09
Oh heavens no. Merchandising where the real money from the wedding is made. If William has a quiet wedding in Scotland, it will interfere with that. Given the economy that will not be allowed. Big wedding. Even if he is not the direct heir, he is still second in line. By the time Andrew married, William and Harry were already born. With Edward and Sophie, he is so far from the throne that a small one was acceptable.
The PEOPLE want a big wedding. Camping out on the procession route, buying tea towels and other souvenirs, then going for a wedding day snack. The merchants will have a banner day.
June 4th, 2009 03:31
As much as William would love to have a smaller wedding, I think the palace machine would prefer a large one as a way of raising ther profile of the royal, and as a way of announcing a newer generation.
Then again, there are economic factors to be taken into consideration.
I think it will all depend on who is our next prime minister.
June 4th, 2009 08:40
PW is Diana’s first born and I think the people would be very disapointed if he had a small wedding. I am sure, after reading some of these posts, that it may not be as big as Diana’s, but I still think (hope) it would be televised. KM will make a beautiful bride!
June 4th, 2009 09:10
Carole Middleton attended the preview at the London Summer Art Expo. I can’t find pics though.
June 4th, 2009 09:18
http://www.isifa.com/detail_ed_order.php?id=22859968&search_id=864700&pagenum=1
A nice red dress.
June 4th, 2009 09:18
Sorry to post again, but there is one on http://www.isifa.com of her but no caption included. She is w/another woman perhaps a minder? Private viewing Carole invited, I don’t know guys but I’d say it’s happening.
June 4th, 2009 09:20
Thanks Me! Nice dress, looks like she has change the color of her hair- darker. Skin looks good too.
June 4th, 2009 09:51
Kate may be getting some of these type of invites and passes them onto her Mom and sister. I don’t think it has any bearing on Kate future role or whether an engagement is coming. JMO.
June 4th, 2009 09:56
The woman with Carol looks like Gemma (?) Billington, a neighbor, friend, and artist. It was her show that KM and her mother went to in Dublin, few years ago.
June 4th, 2009 10:27
Phoebe, as I looked longer at the pic I thought it might be Gemma too. I love that name!
June 4th, 2009 11:36
Couple of pics of KM and GB from the Dublin show: http://tinyurl.com/6lsq3x
June 4th, 2009 11:59
Stephanie’s comment was great and believable. I think the only way to bring PW to tie the knot is to have a decent wedding, rather small like his uncle Edward. This would be very consistent with his current and past behavior. If he has to marry big style like his father, he will absolutely hate it. I also think they will have a rather short engagement.
June 4th, 2009 12:05
Chris,I have always felt their engagement would be short for security reasons. I wonder if it would be feasible for them to marry twice? Once in a small private ceremony, and once for the public? That would make everyone happy,wouldn’t it?
June 4th, 2009 12:16
Brilliant, Lisa…
June 4th, 2009 13:23
Feasibility folks, feasibility. They CAN’T have a short public engagement. They have to book the church, make the dress, make the bridesmaid dresses, hire singers, get the cake, etc. All of those are potential points of leaks. Heck, the fact that the church is reserved for a certain day with no explanation in order to keep the secret will reveal it. So, nothing can really be done until they publicly announce. Otherwise, it will leak and ruin the announcement, while still exposing Kate to security risks.
Prince William may hate the idea of a lot of fuss, but he is the future King. It is gonna happen whether he wants it or not. So, he might as well go through with it and make it as enjoyable for the people as he can.
June 4th, 2009 15:01
Rosetta, Alsgal is with you on that. This lawnchair demands a big state wedding.
In other happy news, Alsgal’s favorite Jonas BrotherJoe’s relationship with his pretty brunette also continues to go from strength to strength, so between that and W&K all is well in Alsgal’s world.
Also, dareth Alsgal say it? But Mrs. Carole Middleton looks very attractive with the darker tone. A very handsome woman.
June 4th, 2009 16:29
A bigger picture of Carole, she’s a very beautiful woman.
http://www.isifa.com/photo/preview/22859968.jpg
I hope to see more pictures on Saturday.
June 4th, 2009 16:50
British royal Lord Frederick Windsor and his fiancee Sophie Winkleman make their first appearance with his mother HRH Princess Michael of Kent, as they enjoyed an Evening of Nicky Haslam Singing Hart and Cole at Bellamy’s Restaurant, London. 02/06/2009.
http://www.isifa.com/result_ed.php?pagenum=4&search_id=867343
June 4th, 2009 16:57
Thanks for the link, Rman. I like Carole’s new hair color and her dress.She looks fresh and nice.
June 4th, 2009 17:02
She’s also smiling, which is a very good sign.
June 4th, 2009 22:25
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/5438452/Prince-Charles-calls-for-squirrel-cull-to-save-timber-industry.html
update
June 5th, 2009 06:06
http://kladlog.busythumbs.com/users/g/gavrila/kladlog/images/SchoolgirlKateMiddletonagedsix.jpg
i found a picture of her aged 6