Kate Middleton to meet the Queen fuels Royal Engagement speculation
The Sun has ignited royal wedding speculation by reporting that Prince William will take Kate Middleton to Balmoral to meet the Queen in August…
It is the first time she has been invited to the Queen’s traditional break at the Highland retreat.
William, who is 27 today, plans to spend the August bank holiday weekend there with Kate. Her meeting with the Queen and Prince Philip will be seen as significant.
The fact that she has been invited to Balmoral, during a royal shoot, will be seen as important.
A source told us: “Kate loves shooting so she will fit in well with the Royal Family. She will take it in her stride.”
Bookie William Hill is offering odds of 2-1 ON that they will get engaged this year.
June 21st, 2009 04:43
The plot thickens. This could be true, but I still think any formally announced engagement is at the very least one year away. If William is fantasizing about serving in Afghanistan, my guess is that he in no way is planning to marry Kate and then go get shot at overseas. No way.
I’m not saying there is not an understanding between them, to the contrary it is almost foolish not to believe so. I believe that their future together was sealed when they reconciled back in 2007 and that they made a pact that they will marry EACH OTHER eventually. But until that day my guess is she has had to give her word that she will hide out with her parents and work and no more shopping trips and hair appointment fodder for the press. I believe William’s mother, Princess Diana, when she said he can be stubborn. I would also add self-centered as well. Hope it all works out for Kate and that the beating she has taken in the press proves to be worth it.
June 21st, 2009 06:48
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/sundaytelegrapharmedforcesday/5586701/Prince-William-we-must-learn-lessons-from-violent-street-gangs.html
June 21st, 2009 07:01
Well, what can i say ?? sometimes all people confused with a different news of Wills & kate, or maybe wills to substitute his mind for purpose kate quick, cause royal family still to secret for a fact of this, so we just wait and see of all this
June 21st, 2009 08:00
im do tired for royal wedding speculation
June 21st, 2009 08:20
Another way of looking at it Guest, is that if he marries and has a kid, he might have a better chance of getting to go play in whatever war zone he wants. So marrying sooner and starting a family might have its advantages.
June 21st, 2009 08:43
I have no doubt that William & Kate will go to Balmoral this year because it seems like they go to places like this in the fall every year. Including Sandringham and Birkhall or even the cottage on the Balmoral estate. I’m sure at some point, she do see the Queen everynow and then. She has met her before so I don’t consider this big news at all.
It just goes to prove that the media can’t wait for the announcement, they are pretty much in the same boat we are in. If nothing comes this year, I am expecting to come very early next year.
June 21st, 2009 08:54
Hello,
Someone posting earlier above makes the biggest point on the timing of any engagement or marriage. KM will not commit to a marriage whilst PW is still serving and insisting on active service.
There is no way she will risk being the Dowager mother of an heir apparent with the life restrictions that she would endure should there be an accident or catastrophe during PW chosen career.
This has been part of the basis of my stating an engagemt/marriage during 2014 with possibly the second week in May 2014 being the favoured date with a similar week in July 204 as the second choice.
All I can say is think about it and ‘wait and see.’
June 21st, 2009 09:21
Prince William will not be permitted to go into any combat zone and he knows it. It is noble that he want to but the notion starts and ends there. The liklihood of him waiting until 2014 to marry a wife of 32 is almost as far fetched. If that is the case, he will be marrying someone other then Kate,IMO. The firm all but forced Charles into marriage when he was 30, do you really think they will sit around while William plays search and rescue games until he is 32? I will love to see the bookies odds on that one.
June 21st, 2009 09:46
I agree Lisa. I think a late 2009/early 2010 engagement announcement and summer 2010 wedding are looking more likely.
June 21st, 2009 10:04
William declaring he wished to go to Afghanistan reminded me of his great grand uncle saying, ‘’something must be done.”
When the DOW said that, it was already agreed he would abdicate, and therefore his words were hollow. Although, we didn’t discover that until decades late.
There is not a hope in hell William will ever see action in Afghanistan or any conflict.
As for Kate meeting the Q. What a load of Tosh about nothing. I for one do not believe the Q has met Kate only twice.
And why should they stay at Balmoral when William has his own home there on the estate. That doesn’t add up.
June 21st, 2009 10:12
I know Ked think life as a military wife won’t do for Kate but I think that is the life they have chosen and I think they will do just fine. The couple will do some engagements like William does now and some will increase when they get married but the focus will still be on his training in the meantime. They will not drag this for 8, 9 or 10 years. Royals in his position don’t carry on relationships that long. Kate is tougher than she looks and that girl can handle almost everything that comes her way. She will do just fine and she as William by her side so everything will be okay.
June 21st, 2009 10:18
A polo game fuels weeding speculation. A Balmoral visit (probably the 100th or so?) fuels wedding speculation. Any event fuels wedding speculation…The press is so boring.They are desperate to find something to write about.
It just means that they are happy together, something nobody doubts.
June 21st, 2009 10:26
I think William is just saying that if he had a chance to go to Afghanistan, he would go. But it would be a waste of money to send him there and pull him out when a threat comes along. Harry already said that if he went back, he wouldn’t have the same job that he once had and the media said that they won’t keep their mouths shut if he went back so I really don’t see the point of him going.
Yeah Hale, I think only met the Queen a few times. The Phillips wedding, Garter day and maybe on a very private occasion but she has met other members of the royal family and spends time with Charles & Camilla.
June 21st, 2009 10:27
Just because the standard committment to SAR is several years does not mean that Prince William will serve several years with the unit. He is a member of the Royal Family. he does his training, he spends some timeon SAR missions IN the UK, then he is out. Exceptions will be made for him simply because of who he is. So, the fact that he will not be free until 2014 is tosh (I love that word). He can be free tomorrow if he wants to be.
The SAR training was to make him look serious. It also allowed a lot of the intense pressure to marry to die down a bit. Now, William and Kate are being seen more in public together which means their schedule is moving forward. They go to Balmoral in August to ask the Queen for permission (although he doesn’t need it, I believe). Then come September, Parliament gives it permission and voila, we have an announcement. Next year, the non-SAR serving Prince William marries the lovely non-military wife to be, Kate Middleton.
June 21st, 2009 10:49
Natasha B is married and just did so on 3/21/09 in Malibu. More crap from KN.
June 21st, 2009 11:16
Someone called the public speculation associated with KM and PW a merry-go-round and that is precisely what is has become!
I actually feel sorry for this couple becasue of all of the crazy stories about that come out on a near daily basis!
These stories and rumors have nearly destroyed all that is young, fresh and interesting about this couple.
I feel worn down by all the engagement speculation and I wonder if I will be able to feel any excitement for this couple if they actually do decide to marry. Does anyone else feel this way?
Even if they marry I think the rumors will continue and we will all grow sick and tired of all the negativity and turn away from the couple altogether. How sad!
June 21st, 2009 11:20
I am not saying that William will go to Afghanistan. There is no way in hell that would be allowed under any circumstances. But what I infer from his desire about serving, which I intentionally dubbed “fantasy,” is my guess that a proposal of marriage is not yet imminent in his mind.
So no, William will never serve front-line active duty anywhere, but he wants to do {something} which I think for the next few years will preclude a wedding and all of the responsibilities a marriage and his royal role entail.
June 21st, 2009 11:36
Hello! I remember the first time when it was announced about Prince William’s attempts at writing. Now I can say if he wasn’t a prince he probably could take up the pen. Very thoughtful, deep, and well written article. Happy birthday, your royal highness, the people’s prince, and may God help you in all your beginnings.
June 21st, 2009 11:49
Yes, that artical reminds me of my university essays in social sciences a decade ago. William has said in a few occassions that if he was not a prince he might work in newspapers as a journalist. It’s great he has now started his career as some kind of “columnist”.
June 21st, 2009 12:24
Well Clover, the press talk a lot about a wedding for these two because they know the time is approaching for a wedding to happen. Royals in his position who have been dating for many years usually get married. I think I can speak for everyone by saying that we are tierd of the speculations but this will continue to happen all the way up to the announcement and after that new speculations will begin. This happens because William is part of a very high profile and popular monarchy. There is tons of interest in the British royals and he and his brother is the top popular young royals of the day so their relationships is even more popular.
Clover I still will get excited when the news finally get here, I just wish it hurry up already but again, it’s their relationship so there’s nothing you can do about it. This couple accepts the pressure but pay little attention to it.
June 21st, 2009 12:39
Rman,
Rman thanks! Everything you say is true. I am sorry I am getting tired of both the engagement speculation and tired of the couple along with it. I wish I could be more like you and separate the two, but I am growing weary of all of it.
I hope my feelings will change once the engagement is announced. Hopefull!
June 21st, 2009 12:50
Believe me Clover, I understand what you mean. We need to hold on to hope and just wish the couple the best, no matter what happens.
No matter how tierd you get, never let go of hope.
June 21st, 2009 13:12
I thought there was supposed to be a polo match at the Beaufort Club today at around 4ish? Anybody know if that is still on? There is also the Breast Cancer run in Dorset today and I believe KM is listed as a donor/runner on JustGiving.
June 21st, 2009 14:37
I don’t see why if KM marries PW, she would then become a miltary wife. Fergie didn’t.
Remember?
June 21st, 2009 15:40
Whatever arrangement William & Kate have after the wedding will work for them. I really don’t think Andrew & Sarah thought the whole thing through before they got married. Obviously William & Kate did some thinking before he announced he was going to the SAR. Some people think he did that without telling her and she thought a wedding was going to take place but let me tell you something, if he had did that, Kate would have beat William worser than Carrie beat Mr. Big in the Sex and the City movie. That would have hurt their relationship in a very big way so yeah she knew all along, the press just like to put their own spin on it. I hope that they make that announcement next year, more details will come out and we will know what will happen next.
June 21st, 2009 19:16
Hale @ 24, that is probably a contributing factor to the failure of the York marriage.
June 21st, 2009 19:29
Well finally we have a report of how Will & Kate spent his birthday weekend together:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2493454/Wills-and-Kate-hol-as-Mr-and-Mrs-Smith.html
June 21st, 2009 19:29
About KM and the Queen:
Has Kate been formally introduced to the Queen (and i am not talking anything under wraps, but on the public record)? When? The Garter Ceremony? Earlier?
About KM, PW, Marriage and the Military:
KM a military wife… why not? While not for everyone, if she marries PW, she is marrying the future head of the armed forces. It should NOT be inconceivable.
PW in battle… were we to travel 600 years in time, maybe. As is , not even with an heir. Bullet magnet and all that. But a meaningful role near the front lines… again, why not? We would have a lot less wars if the children of the rich and privileged had to fight them too (to say nothing of the rich and privileged themselves).
June 21st, 2009 19:33
I’m not arguing the merits of him seeing active combat, just emphasizing the reality of today that they will not let a future British monarch anywhere near the front lines. Whether or not he should serve, another question entirely, is one which I can look at from both viewpoints.
June 21st, 2009 19:34
Again, the first hints of what Will & Kate were up to for his birthday celebrations this weekend.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2493454/Wills-and-Kate-hol-as-Mr-and-Mrs-Smith.html
June 21st, 2009 20:18
What I find entirely amusing is the apparent muzzle that is firmly in place on the face of Katie Nicholl in regards to William and Kate. She must be twitching to spin her tales right now but is not allowed to.
Guest I also posted the Sun story. It is a weird mish mosh of info but since we have no pictures this year (drats!) I guess we have to settle for what DL has to say.
It has been quite a weird weekend of tabloid tales,though,hasn’t it?
June 21st, 2009 21:37
sojourner, Kate has met the Queen before. The Queen and William invited Kate to the Garter ceremony last year and Kate did meet her at Peter’s wedding. Did the meet privately? I have no idea. She knows who Kate is and I’m sure William tell his grandparents a lot about her but we have never seen them in public together.
June 21st, 2009 22:06
Lisa and Rman, I agree.
June 22nd, 2009 03:13
I have no doubt that Kate has met the Queen privately on several occasions.
I am minded of Fergies statement in an interview saying how she envied Sophie for being given the opportunity to get used to Royal life before Sophie married into the Firm.
I suspect the same is being done for Kate.
June 22nd, 2009 04:32
i have been a huge royal fan for as long as i can remember, particularly Princess Diana. I have carefully observed the relationship of william and kate and i would put any amount of money on it that they are already engaged but hesitant to announce it. William is not exactly a fan of the media and i do not think that he wants kate to endure the endless harrasment endured by his mother. i think they are giving kate time to adjust more and more by including her in official things eg.. balmoral. if we scrutinise everything little thing they do and analyze it then i have no douubt that the royal advisors are doin the exact same thing. Everything Kate and William do in the pulic eye eg Polo match are IMO carefully monitored by public. However the photo’s at the birthday last week were in IMO a major violation of privacy because it was a private affair but it does show a side we rarely see uncensored affection not an arm casually draped over her shoulder but a couple very much i loVE. I also think that William wants to be 100% certain before he marries kate. Charles was a bit of playboy in his day and as much as i hate to admit it Camilla was his true love and not Diana. Kate would appear to be Williams true love and i think it is obvious she adores him. Although william is stubborn i don’t think his hesitation to marry her is selfish but rather quite the opposite, he is delaying the inevitable media circus as soon as the engagement is announced. Diana couldn’t move without cameras in her face and willam IMO is trying to save kate from that. These are just my observations. (”,)
June 22nd, 2009 07:01
Danielle, I enjoyed your comments. I do agree that any future royal bride will be given time to adjust to the Firm before actually marrying into it.
June 22nd, 2009 07:34
Excellent post,Danielle. I agree with you 100%.
June 22nd, 2009 08:11
Morning my royal peeps.
I agree, Sarah just wasn’t given the chance to adjust to royal life before she married so I do think deep inside she is alittle upset about that. The chance that Kate is being given hasn’t been done since Sophie came on the royal scene, that’s why I believe they will marry and hopefully it will happen next year.
June 22nd, 2009 08:57
Sarah Ferguson was a mistake from the word “go”. No amount of getting her used to life in the royal family would have made any difference. Did she really need someone in the royal family to teach her that being photographed having some man other than her husband sucking on her toes would cause trouble in her marriage? Please! KM is neither that dumb nor that crass.
June 22nd, 2009 09:22
Yup. This toe sucking thing really showed that she could not care less. I always had the impression she clearly mistook being a celebrity with being a princess. In fact, she still does.
I do not think she is all bad – but she clearly had no idea what it means to be a Princess. And she was not interested to learn.
June 22nd, 2009 09:27
Well in reality Sarah was really liked by the royal family and they thought that she was a breath of freah air. She just needed more support when she was married to Andrew. She saw her husband very little, she gained weight, the press treated her badly and she was just lonely. She has simply come a long way since those days and her relationship with the royals is on a very good footing, infact her relationship with the Queen is very close. Sarah has said many times that if she had the chance to marry Andrew again, she would do much more better than before because she is smarter now and know what it takes to be the wife of a senior royal, I believe her. What’s sad though is that she do soo much charity work and good things for people but recevies very little recognition for her efforts, although I don’t think that bothers her.
June 22nd, 2009 10:09
Sorry Rman, that is all just a fairy tale. The RF hates her, and she is doing nothing to change that. She courts publicity and capitalizes on her title, her daughters, and her former relationship with Diana. She is truly a despicable woman.
June 22nd, 2009 10:19
IDK Ursula
I think that’s a bit harsh. The royal family is a very tough family to marry into and if you are not prepared then it will be a disaster. Was she the right choice for the “position” probably not.
It’s why I worry very much about Chelsy joining the royal family if they were to get back together. I think there are certain people who are not cut out for the role because it is too restrictive. She probably would do a much better job at her age now but like they say hindsight is 20/20. She is much more mature now she is working making her own money and Rman is right she is doing a lot more charity work. The toe sucking incident was unfortunate much like Charles taped conversation with CPB, or Williams helicopter bachelor escapades or urinating incident, or Harry’s Nazi costume. You live and learn and everyone makes mistakes even the royals themselves.
June 22nd, 2009 10:21
Ursula, that’s not a fairytale. What I just said is very true and if you understand what really happened then you will see the truth. I do respect your opinion though. You see when it comes down to Sarah, people believe what the tabloids wrote about her, her marriage and her relationship with the royals. A great deal of that stuff was made up to sell papers and sadly sarah suffered bdaly for it. We do know that her relationship with the Queen is on very good terms, Andrew himself gave an interview and said that Sarah and his mother has a very strong bond and they talk endlessly on topics that he don’t even know about. Just last year we saw Sarah going to Balmoral with Andrew and the girls to vacation. The truth is things are on very good terms and what happened in the past is just in the past. It’s the media and some members of the public that would like to keep that past alive and that’s very sad but these people have long moved on from that.
June 22nd, 2009 10:31
That’s right JJ, Sarah made her mistakes and I’m not saying that she didn’t but she has learned a great deal since her marriage and learned that you can’t eat your problems away. She is not a bad person, she just made some mistakes which all of us do once in awhile. Diana & Sarah opened new doors for Sophie and even Kate.
June 22nd, 2009 11:42
jj Enjoyed your comments and totally true.
This is why it is a good thing that Kate is given time to adjust. When you think back, both Diana and Sarah were thrown in at the deep end.
It must be hard for the RF to understand how others have difficulty dealing with the spotlight, because they were born into it.
But I like to think the RF approach things differently today, and I should like to think who ever marries W & H, they will receive full support.
June 22nd, 2009 12:11
Spotted some faces at Wimbledon although no Kate. Besides the devilishly handsome Jude Law, girl in white appears to be Kitty Spencer and Astrid in blue floral blouse.
http://tinyurl/mmm9gv
http://tinyurl/njpxwn
June 22nd, 2009 12:17
I can never get it right the first time!! I will try again.
http://tinyurl.com/mmm9gv
http://tinyurl.com/njpxwn
Thank God I don’t get graded for this!
June 22nd, 2009 12:17
Yeah, I got it!!!:)
June 22nd, 2009 12:37
I agree Hale, the future wives of Windsor will get full support.
Gracie thanks for the links, I was hoping that Kate would go to the matches.
June 22nd, 2009 12:42
I agree with you Rman. The BRF has learned hard lessons over the years and they know that bad things happen when Royal wives go unsupported, feel lonely, or unloved. I very much doubt they will allow another Fergie or Diana situation to happen in the future.
I think everyone has matured and will do things differently in the future.
June 22nd, 2009 12:49
Rman, yeah me too. With this pic ban if she goes we will probably never know. Honestly, if she is at Wimbledon that is a public event so I am not quite sure why she could not be pic. It helps promote the sport and I think it looks good that she enjoys going like Diana did. Wimbledon use to be owned by the Spencers so it’s good Kitty it there.
June 22nd, 2009 13:05
Yeah everybody has learned their lessons.
June 22nd, 2009 13:11
“Wimbledon use to be owned by the Spencers”
Gracie, I didn’t know that. You learn something new everyday.
June 22nd, 2009 13:15
Well Gracie
If she attends a public event I would assume that all bets are off much like the polo pictures?
June 22nd, 2009 14:26
There are more photos of Lady Kitty Spencer:
http://tinyurl.com/lrlcer
http://tinyurl.com/mxx8tv
June 22nd, 2009 14:43
Rman, yes the Spencers owned the land that Wimbledon is now on. When they owned it it was called Wimbledon Park, 1,200acres of land. It was among the other homes they had as well as Althorpe. The house was demolished after a fire in 1785. I read it in a book about Harriet Spencer “Privilage & Scandal.” She was the sister of Georgina upon which the movie was made w/Kiera Knightly.
June 22nd, 2009 15:12
Wow thanks for letting me know Gracie. It’s crazy, I was born and raised in America and I know so much about royal history but that something I just didn’t know so thank you for that.
June 22nd, 2009 15:59
Well, Rman, I’d like to see this interview that Prince Andrew gave. Otherwise, I will stick to my “opinion”, and you can stick to yours.
June 22nd, 2009 16:45
Ingrid Seward’s letter is in and she say’s that the Queen won’t be able to go to Lord Freddie Windsor’s wedding because the royal court will be at Balmoral.
http://www.majestymagazine.com/editors_letter.php
Ursula, well I really do respect your opinion but I just find it important to point out that Sarah went through a great deal of hell when she was married because the lack of support she had and no one really cared about the personal problems she had. Her marriage was breaking down because she saw her husband very little, people talked about her clothes and how much it costed, she started to gain some weight and the tabs dubbed her the “Duchess of Pork” and said that they rather sleep with a goat than her, the list can go on and on. She was judged very unfairly by people who failed to understand what she was going through privately. Those was some hard days for her but she has come a long way since then. Sarah is much more stronger today and she encourages her daughters to love their bodies and just have confidence in themseleves. Due to that, they are not frightened to show off their curves when they are on holiday. I just choose to help celebrate the new life Sarah has now rather than bring up the past that was obviously hurtful to her and her family.
I will try to find those videos for you.
June 22nd, 2009 17:05
Here is an interview Andrew did with Meredith Vieira and he talks about royal life, his children, William & Harry and Sarah.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/22893410/
June 22nd, 2009 17:12
I have the book Williams Princess by Robert Jobson and in it is a photo of KM with the Queen at Buck House I believe. (the book is currently packed away so I can’t check it this minute) so they have obviously met. The Queen is looking at Kate in a smiley way, quite focused on her in fact. As for Sarah I also have oddles of Royal videos and I was surprised to see Sarah with the Queen in the Windsor Castle video at some horsey event. Sarah was in an enclosure with the Queen which pleasantly surprised me because I also thought that there was no way they would ever appear together but there they were. I think that we have ideas sometimes that we know stuff about these people because we like them, read about them (sometimes in some pretty questionable sources) and begin to think ourselves experts on their behavior when in reality what do we really know??? Not much! With Sarah and Andrew so obviously close, why wouldn’t his mother try to get along with someone so special to her beloved son and grand-daughters. People do move on and tragic hurts do sometimes heal. I think most of us believe that PW and PH get along very well with Camilla and who could have seen that coming??
June 22nd, 2009 17:14
Also here is another interview he did for the Queen’s 80th birthday and he mentions Sarah and her relationship with the Queen.
http://tinyurl.com/mfxfpd
June 22nd, 2009 17:15
Hey Eliza
When you have a moment or if anyone else has that photograph it would be great if they could scan it and upload it. I’d love to take a look at that photograph… It’s nice to know that they have met.
June 22nd, 2009 17:34
Here is some pictures of Sarah with Andrew, the kids and the Queen.
http://tinyurl.com/no8bvp
http://tinyurl.com/n7r9f9
http://tinyurl.com/mwl5ax
June 22nd, 2009 17:35
Yeah I would like to see that photo too Eliza.
June 22nd, 2009 17:36
Hope I don’t add too much confusion here but the picture may have been in another book called After Diana. At any rate it is for sure in one or the other because those are the only two books I have that have a focus on PW and KM. Either one of these books are available on Amazon/US for a penny on up.(I just checked) I won’t be able to get my hands on either one of them anytime soon as we are packing for a move, but the photo does exist in one of those two books. Sorry again for any confusion I may have caused!!
June 22nd, 2009 17:48
Hey guys, is this new? Or did it happen whilst I was on holiday?
http://tinyurl.com/kp95kb
June 22nd, 2009 17:59
Thanks Rman for that link, I enjoyed that interview.
June 22nd, 2009 18:23
Eliza, I believe that photo of Kate w/the Queen is actually Princess Victoria of Sweden if it is same one I am thinking of. Victoria has a very unique chin, but I could be wrong. I am sure Kate has met the Queen on several occasions as they were both in attendance.
June 22nd, 2009 18:25
Hale, I noticed the new website accidentally not that long ago. I don’t think it has been reported in the press either. They just kind of slipped it in w/o telling anyone?
June 22nd, 2009 18:40
gracie, I think you are right about the photograph, as if Kate has been photographed with the Queen those pics have yet to be published.
June 22nd, 2009 18:41
I didn’t notice the change to the site, thanks for pointing that out Hale.
June 22nd, 2009 19:10
Thanks Hale, the site has been changed recently. The last time I checked the POW site, last week, it didn’t have those friendly user and nice changes. I see they added a link for children. Thumbs up.
June 22nd, 2009 21:04
Thanks to all who chipped in to clarify KM encounter with the Queen (Peter’s wedding slipped my mind completely!
)
And thanks to Hale: Love that website!
June 22nd, 2009 21:28
well i think that the KM encounter with the Queen at peter wedding and at the order garter ceremony last month the Queen invite her garter ceremony last month witness pw
June 23rd, 2009 11:03
With regards to the W & H website, you are all most welcome.
Finally, I got to do my small bit for the forum.