notwBritish mega-tabloid News Of The World has printed an ‘investigative’ piece claiming that Kate Middleton’s uncle has “…vices that will horrify the royal family – supplying illegal drugs and fixing hookers.”

The playboy uncle of Kate Middleton brags how he greeted her boyfriend Prince William for the first time with an outrageous four-letter salute: “Oi, you f***er!”

Gary Goldsmith told how he delivered his shock outburst as he welcomed the young lovers to his luxury £5 million home on the Spanish isle of Ibiza – where he revels in a hedonistic lifestyle.

Read entire story at News Of The World…

95 Responses to "Kate Middleton’s Uncle caught in Tabloid Muck-Rake"
  • Guest #1 - July 19, 2009 at 3:29 am

    OH……….MY…………GOD……….

    :-)

  • Guest #2 - July 19, 2009 at 3:59 am

    And I’ll reiterate this here:

    Do Kate’s attackers want a run-down of William’s relatives? Great Aunt Margaret, cousin Freddie Windsor, etc.

    People need to get over themselves. Kate nor her family are responsible for the actions of a relative.

    Her attackers always want to say how high and mighty her family acts and what climbers they are — well I’m glad to see they have not shunned her mother’s brother. Flaws and all. I think he’s a breath of fresh air. A bit of a loose cannon, but so what. I’d rather a hustling uncle rather than some of the characters in William’s family.

    I really can’t stand self-righteous, holier than thou people. Her attackers will try to use this against her. Well if this is Kate’s sin, then those same people who DEFENDED CHELSY DAVY against those who attacked her father’s FINANCIAL DEALINGS AND FRIENDSHIP FROM A MURDEROUS DESPOT can do the same for Kate now….Otherwise, they can do us all the long overdue solid and STFU.

  • NYme #3 - July 19, 2009 at 4:52 am

    well said GUEST. And what about princess margaret? She was kind of a blacksheep and the queen’s sister, she has young lovers (very young) and she tried many drugs in her villa. Kate didnt make a faux-pas!!! and what about carla bruni (all over the british press) she was not exactly a saint but the british tabloid just can not stop putting her on a “piedestal”! Kate I’m with you. I’m going to send an email of support to her on the Party pieces site. Who want to do the same as I?

  • Guest #4 - July 19, 2009 at 6:51 am

    That would be a nice gesture NYme.

  • rosettaresearch #5 - July 19, 2009 at 9:54 am

    While writing Party Pieces seems like a nice gesture, I would not. First, it is their business. They don’t need their email inbox clogged with personal notes. Second, we don’t KNOW these people. We are NOT their friends. They don’t need to hear from us. In fact, writing just extends the time they have to deal with this. They are private citizens, let them have their privacy.

  • Rman #6 - July 19, 2009 at 10:00 am

    NYme that’s a nice thing to do but I would suggest you write to Clarence House. The address is on the princes site.

  • ann #7 - July 19, 2009 at 10:54 am

    wonder what the effect of this cause will bring, wonder what the queen and her family’s pr persons will do. what does the clouds and destiny wish who knows. anyway i do not think a marriage or anything to do with one was to come this year, so if she can ride the other dramas that have come her and william’s relationship way then she can ride this whatever this shall bring. safely being the one, that will get her wedding in the next few years, but not 2010, -11, or -12, to much happening for one to come. – so thats my simple thoughts. bye

  • Britt #8 - July 19, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Every single family has a black sheep – the royals can NOT act ‘offended’ about this, the vast majority of QEII’s family is made up of black sheep!!

  • NYme #9 - July 19, 2009 at 11:28 am

    on NOTW: nearl 47 comments pro-kate (or assimilated, not blaming kate ) and nearly 20 stupid ones. No need to worry. And I check all the french press on the web: none newspapers relate the story, the same for the italien press

  • Rman #10 - July 19, 2009 at 11:29 am

    The whole thing is a priave family matter and the royals will most likey not pay any attention to it. This will not affect the couple in anyway and William will most likey stand by Kate and her family. I do believe the announcement will come early next year.

  • Mathilde #11 - July 19, 2009 at 11:33 am

    A lot of people have embarrassing relatives. It’s not Kate’s fault. Nothing to do with her and the rest of her family. I’m very sorry for them.

    I’ve just read the article and the comments to it and spotted several people who have been trashing Kate and her family on that nasty “The Royal Truth” forum.

    One of them( named Qball) says she/he used to work for Kate’s uncle:

    “By Qball. Posted July 19 2009 at 3:54 AM.

    I used to work for Gary and he always was a brash fool.. This is a tame story for him, I feel sorry for Kate.”

    Now I wonder how “The News of the world” found out about Kate’s uncle Gary’s lifestyle. And WHO “helped” them in it? and who paid them to “investigate” this story.

    No doubts, Uncle Gary looks and sounds very unpleasant, but it’s not his family’s fault.

  • soapstar #12 - July 19, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    I just peeked at the “royal truth” forum for the first time. Yikes. Such hatred for Kate.

    I honestly don’t know if this story will have a huge impact. I think most people can recognize that the uncle’s actions are not Kate’s. Plus as other have already pointed out, the RF is hardly scandal free.

  • Rman #13 - July 19, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    This whole thing will blow over and everyone will move on.

    Many people on that forum can be very nasty and just loving that something like this is out. The problem is that many of them want William to date a woman that they think is right for him not what he thinks is right for him. It’s a big lack of respect for William and his private life. This is why William himself said that he don’t pay attention to the papers and what they think. What he do with his private life is his business. This is why I said that this whole thing with her uncle will not effect the couple and their plans. The police will handle the uncle.

  • Phoebe #14 - July 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Isn’t NOTW owned by Rupert Murdoch? He’s got a little sleaze in his private life.

  • dagsi #15 - July 19, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    I do hope this blows over, although I’m anxious how tomorrow’s UK papers will follow the story.

    Don’t know if it’s genuine, but several talk backs in the original NOTW article claim they have worked for Gary Goldsmith, saying he’s a playful/fun-loving character with just a touch of brashness about him. Go take a look. They don’t make him sound like the criminal some haters are playing him out to be.

    On another side note, someone twittered that he saw William & Kate @dinner last night (?… about 19 hours ago before this post). My guess is they had dinner after polo. He said they’re both “awesome.”

  • Mathilde #16 - July 19, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    I think Prince Charles showed his support for Kate attending a charity Polo game yesterday.I do hope all this story will be buried soon. Kate is not responsible for what her uncle’s doing for his living.

  • Clover #17 - July 19, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I hate to say this but in my own life may people see a family as a unit, not just a group of unrelated people, sadly sometimes what one family members does HAS implications for all the others. I have seen this everywhere all of the time.

    However, I do not this will change the way Prince William feels about Kate.

    I really believe if William wants Kate in his life, then she will be in his life NO MATTER what happens. I really don’t think this Uncle thing matters much to Prince William.

    Why do we keep on discussing what happens on other sites here. Unless you post exact references it is hard to follow your point exactly.

    Anyone who knows me knows I hate the whole pro-Kate and anti-Kate rivalry becasuse IMO all that matters is that Prince William is pro-Kate.

    So from that perspective nothing anyone posts on any royal blog stating that they are for or against Kate really matters.

  • Britt #18 - July 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    The only thing I’m concerned about in this ‘scandal’ is the story Kate’s uncle told about William smashing glass ornaments in a guests house during game of kick-about. How can Will be so careless in a guests house?! If I had been Kate’s uncle, Will would have been in for a world of trouble…I don’t care if he’s royalty! You don’t smash other peoples belongings!

  • Rman #19 - July 19, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Well Clover what you said is true but sometimes you just get upset at what they say and you bite back. This kind of thing has gone on for a longtime but today it’s being done on internet forums.

  • Clover #20 - July 19, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    Rman,
    I understand. I guess I will have to spend more time reading these other site. Can someone give me the names of them?

  • Phoebe #21 - July 19, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Haven’t read the article, because just looking at the headline makes me feel . . . grimey, but did it say how he made his money? I understood that he was a building contractor. Or was that their father?

  • sojourner #22 - July 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    PW already knew of this buffoon, so his existence is well in the calculation of any friendship with KM. Buckingham Palance, CH, M13 etc etc better know about this man, or else the UK is in big trouble. It is therefore only a public relations fiasco.

    I am just sad for the Middletons, because even if we are all related to black sheep, the pain they can bring to families is quite distinctive.

  • none #23 - July 19, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Well it’s really not a private matter, remember Mabel married a Prince of Orange and he had to give uo his place in line for the throne, because of a past association (not even related to her) with a drug dealer.

  • Rman #24 - July 19, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    As I said before, the whole situation is a private family matter. The only reason why this is making news is because who he is related to. They can’t bring out anything about Kate so they go after her family. No family is perfect.

    Clover the only bad site I know about is the RTF.

  • soapstar #25 - July 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Clover,

    One of those sites is called “Royal Truth”. Google it, and check out the William section. There is a sub-forum on Kate, and it is quite nasty. Most of the posts are quite mean to Kate, and unless you absolutely can’t stand her, you won’t enjoy the site. There’s another royal site that used to be pretty cruel to Kate too, but it seems the posts have calmed down. I think most of the posters moved over to RT.

    I think once you see some of the posts, you’ll get an idea of why so many continue to bring up anti-Kate posters. Their dislike of her extends way beyond what is rational.

  • Clover #26 - July 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Rman and Soapstar,

    Thanks! I will check out the Royal Truth.

    Soapstar,
    Yours is the best explanation of these other sites I have been given to date. I will do my homework and let you guys know what I find.

    Thanks again!

  • Rman #27 - July 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    We just have to learn to ignore the nasty comments. These people don’t make or break Kate Middleton.

    I’ll be glad once that announcement is made.

  • Rman #28 - July 19, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    LOL, okay Clover.

  • soapstar #29 - July 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    You’re welcome Clover. : )

    You’re right Rman. It’s probably best to just ignore the nastier comments.

    I wonder if the UK press will run the story in the morning? I haven’t see anything in the US press yet.

  • meg #30 - July 19, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Some of the posters on Royal Truth try to spread their “truth” all over the net. I just saw one of them on Twitter. She has more posts where she more or less says that the Middleton fortune comes from drug sale. Their company isn’t big enough to make all that money, she claims. It’s like I don’t know what to do. I really want to do something to stop this person, but what?? I hope somebody sees it and takes action!! Shocked and disgusted!

  • sojourner #31 - July 19, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    meg,
    you could answer with a twit

    The sky is falling — PW has dated a drug moll for 7 years and our government has done nothing. HAAAAHAAAHAAAAAA

  • Rman #32 - July 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    No need to worry meg, the Middleton’s is not paying attention to that and if they are, the person’s site could get shut down or get sued.

  • kat #33 - July 19, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Kate cannot be held accountable for what her uncle does. That is just rediculous. I am sure that everyone knows that we cannot take the blame for another’s actions, especially when that other person is an adult. There are people who dislike Kate immensely. These people will hang on each negative words, phrase, sentence…that is negative towards Kate. You know I am not even going to dicuss what they are doing. There are many people either here or other sights who strongly support her and William. I hope that they do know that there are many people pulling for them. I hope that they announce their engagemeent soon. Then she can start showing eveyone how committed she is to herself, family and the Royal Family. For those who continue to say there is not anyaffection when they are together. It is not pda-it is PDA. It is not public display of affection. It is Private displays of affection.

  • dagsi #34 - July 19, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    Guys, has anyone read my previous post? Or was it just uninteresting? lol. I was hoping to get some comments. Here you go… let me post it again :D

    ——
    1. Don’t know if it’s genuine, but several talk backs in the original NOTW article claim they have worked for Gary Goldsmith, saying he’s a playful/fun-loving character with just a touch of brashness about him. Go take a look. They don’t make him sound like the criminal some haters are playing him out to be.

    2. On another side note, someone twittered that he saw William & Kate @dinner last night (?… about 24 hours before this post). My guess is they had dinner after polo. He said they’re both “awesome.”

  • Hale #35 - July 19, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    what I don’t understand is, just because the NOTW posted a video showing the uncle handling drugs, they automatically assume everything he say’s is true.

    Just because the uncle claims William stayed with him he and Kate went to Ibiza, it doesn’t necessarily make it true. Britt, just because the uncle says William broke those pyramids, doesn’t make it true. This uncle is a braggart and what he say’s should be treated with a pinch of salt.

    He’s one of those guys who drops names, and likes to make people think he has his hand of the pulse. He’s all ego, but in a friendly way.

    I daresay the Spanish police will shortly be paying him a visit.

    As for those other posters from the ‘Pampers’ site, ignore them. As I’ve said before they are still in teething mode, and unfortunately it may be they are also retarded. You would have to be to want to post there.

  • dagsi #36 - July 19, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    Finally, the Daily Mail chimes in!

    http://tinyurl.com/ldr58f

  • Rman #37 - July 19, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    dagsi, that is very interesting. Maybe they did go to dinner after the polo match. I bet they are a really nice couple.

    They probably not even paying any attention to this crap and just about their day normally. If the uncle is dealing drugs, then the police will handle that I think some press and even on the royal forums are probably blowing everything out of proportion. I don’t even think the guy lives in London but in the caribbean.

  • Rman #38 - July 19, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    dagsi thanks for the link. I’m glad they mentioned that William is very protective of Kate and will stand by her family.

    Now I know the N-sers didn’t want to hear that. I just had to say that.

  • Clover #39 - July 19, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Hale,
    Is the “pampers” site the Royal Truth?
    By retarded do you mean not very bright?

    Kat,
    No one is blaming Kate for the uncle’s actions, but we have all been judged by the behavior of our family members, both good and bad behavior.

    Just look at how people are introduced to one another – his father is a doctor, her grandmother is Queen of England, his mother has a Ph.D. in comparative literature from Harvard, her sister is in jail for trading arms with Iran, family members do matter where I come from.

    If Kate’s Uncle is a drug dealer and pimp, then it is a disgrace and it would be much better for Kate if her uncle was known for his involvement in something related to a good humanitarian cause, for example.

    However, I do not think this will make Prince William drop Kate. I think he wants to be with Kate and he will be with Kate NO MATTER WHAT.

    It is still very bad that this happened with her Uncle, just dreadful to be honest, it would have been much, much better if it had not happened at all.

    The really good news is that it will not end Kate’s relationship with Prince William, IMO.

  • Phoebe #40 - July 19, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    The NOTW would not waste their time and newsprint on Gary Goldsmith if he were not KM’s uncle. I’m sure that he is not the only one in Ibiza doing what he’s doing. The NOTW is catering to their public, who salivate over every negative thing the NOTW can dig up about KM’s family. Begrudgery is alive and well.

  • Clover #41 - July 19, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Phoebe,
    Why make excuses for Kate’s Uncle? When it is not okay to pimp women and deal drugs. Also, you can’t date someone like a future King of England and expect the same degree of privacy you and I enjoy — it is just not possible and Kate knows this very well.

    I would notargue that this is unfair or entirely the fault of the tabloids or that others do it without consequences.

    If Kate is going to be Queen she better get used to media scrutiny. Remember Lady Diana well Kate will have the same degree of attention from the press and would be completely delusional to expect anything less.

  • Phoebe #42 - July 19, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Clover, you need to learn how to read.

  • Clover #43 - July 19, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Phoebe,

    Ooooo! Now do I?

  • Rman #44 - July 19, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Well Clover I think after all these years, Kate knows that the media will talk about her and her family. If anything, this let people know that no family is perfect and not even a future Queen’s family is perfect.

    People would be crazy to think this would ruin the couples relationship. They have gone through a lot together and they will get through this together. They will have a lifetime of problems pass by them and the only way you can get through it, is together.

    Now come W&K bring on some good news.

  • Lisa #45 - July 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm
  • Guest #46 - July 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Meg at Post #30 above, it is best to ignore the haters, but if I find out that anyone brings suit against them, I will gladly help in whatever way I can in shutting them down.

  • Lisa #47 - July 19, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    The kink I provided will surely shove a sock in the mouths of the haters at TRT,LOL :)

  • Lisa #48 - July 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    oops, make that “Link” LMAO!

  • Guest #49 - July 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Lisa, that is A TERRIFIC FIND!!! LOL :-)

  • Clover #50 - July 19, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Rman,
    What I have been saying all day is that Kate and Prince William have probably anticipated that the press would print anything related to either of them, good and bad, and they both probably know by now that this will be their reality forever.

    BTW, I went to the site that you recommended : ) and they are the ones saying that this is the beginning of the end for Kate and William.

    I think that this is business as usual for Kate and William and they know how to deal with it and they will stay together.

  • Lisa #51 - July 19, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    Thanks,Guest! I am still very loopey from the meds I am on and I got out of bed for the first time in three days an hour ago, I wanted to go back and hide under the covers after reading this story about uncle druggie, but then our friend at the SUN made it all better. I wonder who we should think, him or Miguel Head ? ;)

  • Guest #52 - July 19, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Thank Will & Kate for ignoring the haters, having the hots for each other still after all of these years, and for a sense of humor.

    THAT little scene outside of that pub will knock Uncle Gary off of the radar and send the haters into the Looney bin. :-)

    I’m cracking up. Somebody is fighting fire with fire. :-)

  • Lisa #53 - July 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    I am laughing sooo hard right now. Priceless, simply priceless. Miguel Head is my heeeero!

  • Clover #54 - July 19, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    Lisa,
    Good find! Proves my point. Prince William will love and be with Kate despite anything the media prints.

  • rosettaresearch #55 - July 19, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Oh. My.

    Yep, that is a couple that is on the verge of breaking up. Things are O-V-E-R with them. I mean how can he stay with a girl who touches him like that? It is so clear from the picture he is just using her until someone better comes along. And she is just hanging on to him to avoid getting a job.

  • Guest #56 - July 19, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    OMG hilarious rosettaresearch! LOL

  • Rman #57 - July 19, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    LOL, wow. William & Kate is something else. I still say their privacy needs to be respected

  • Lisa #58 - July 19, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Rman,their privacy was respected…..back at his apartment! ;)

  • kat #59 - July 19, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Clover, Just getting back here-I did not mean that Kate was being blamed for her uncle. However, some people will use his actions to get at Kate. I guess I now have to reevaluate my PDA. I guess it will have to be the PPDA- the public private display of affection!!!! Great find Lisa.

  • Lisa #60 - July 19, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Well, I could take the credit but I was simply in the right place at the right time. The real thanks goes to Duncan,who always comes through with the goods!

    If your reading this,Duncan….YOU ROCK! :)

  • Guest #61 - July 19, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

  • Alsgal #62 - July 19, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Alsgal thinks the snog pics were deliberately staged in order to deflect from the Uncle Gary story — or that is just one heck of a coincidence.

    Not to worry, the lawnchair is still ready for their summer 2010 nuppies.

    As for Gary the Hut (Alsgal’s a big Star Wars fan)
    no problemo — Carole will just have to disown her brother to keep this thing going.

    At least Kate and and her future King got a nice stay in the villa in Ibiza first.

    Keep ones eyes on da prize, Miz Carole!

  • Rman #63 - July 19, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Well thank you Lisa and thank you Duncan.

    “Rman,their privacy was respected…..back at his apartment!”

    LOL, I guess that’s true.

  • Mathilde #64 - July 19, 2009 at 7:58 pm
  • Guest #65 - July 19, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Totally agree with this article. :-)

  • Clover #66 - July 19, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Kat,
    Thanks for clearing that up, that is how I like to do things with dialogue and kindness. Thanks again!

    There is no need to call me names because I misunderstood your point. Why not restate it?
    :)

  • dagsi #67 - July 19, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    WHOA!!! In the middle of the uncle frenzy, kaboom this kiss comes out! I love it!!!

    Some people think this was staged to distract readers. While possible, I doubt that because this should have happened before the NOTW article broke out. Either way, W&K are determined to make a statement that they’re a couple. Great!

  • Alsgal #68 - July 19, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Dagsi, Alsgal loves it too as seeing these two kissing in the dark sure gets Alsgal’s mind off the cocaine and the prosties.

    However, just an FYI but Clarence House, BP, and the Middletons knew about this before it went to print — that’s just the way the news bidness and PR control works.

    As for the Spanish police visiting Uncle Gar, no
    worries. The Spanish Royal Family will not allow charges, and certainly the UK police will do nothing.

    This will all blow over.

  • mapleleaf #69 - July 19, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Thanks for the great find Lisa!! I hope BRW posts The Sun article about Wills and Kate snogging their heads off outside of a pub in the countryside.

    It looks like Wills and Kate had a nice weekend of togetherness, DESPITE the dodgy uncle:

    Kate was at the polo with William on Saturday, and the snogging photos were taken Saturday night, and the article about the dodgy uncle was released early Sunday morning.

    ;) Wills was DEFINITELY showing solidarity for his girl. Good for you William, I’m proud of you!

  • mapleleaf #70 - July 19, 2009 at 9:27 pm
  • soapstar #71 - July 19, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    Thanks for the new pictures and articles everyone!

    The photos and video of W/K are great. I’m glad that they are showing their solidarity.

    Dagsi- Did the guy from the twitter sighting get a chance to talk to William and Kate?

    That article from “The Independent” was so true. I have a feeling that there will be less outrage and more sympathy toward Kate. I think most people can recognize that Kate is not responsible for her uncle’s actions.

  • Rman #72 - July 19, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Those was some nice pictures. This couple really make it known that they are in love. Those two don’t fool around.

  • sojourner #73 - July 19, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Gosh…

    I am so glad that William is standing by his woman. I am glad that some newspapers are being persuaded to show their support as well. We should all go out and by copies of the Independent tomorrow. Furthermore, I believe Miguel Head has shown that he is worth his weight in gold and diamonds!

    I am however uncomfortable with the PDA pictures. Perhaps my cynical side is suggesting the scene might be staged or strategically leaked, rather than the the result of a momentary lowering of guard (which was bound to happen eventually). I look at these pictures, and see an awkwardness about them; yet I know enough psychology to realize it is probably a projection of my own discomfort at comfronting my voyeurism.

    I’m off to confession (again, I guess :oops: )

  • dagsi #74 - July 19, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    soapstar, the Twitter guy’s nick was “oliverayling.” You check it out at
    http://twitter.com/oliverayling

    All he said was: “met prince william and kate middleton at dinner tonight.. theyre both awesome. i think i’d like them to rule our country already please.”

    cheers!

  • soapstar #75 - July 19, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    Thanks, Dagsi!

  • sojourner #76 - July 19, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Alsgal,
    Great to hear from you, many missed your posts here!

    I am with you about the lack of legal consequences on the Spanish side. First, cocaine is everywhere and on everyone in Ibiza, and coppers cannot be bothered, particularly if your are crazy, rich and European. The uncle sounds like a loud mouth who will be regretting his “friendliness” today and for a long time to come.

  • Karagiosis #77 - July 19, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Hello.
    I’m nearly sure I’ve said before, there is a striking discrepancy between how situations, occasions, etc. are reported in the press and how ‘things’ actually are (in real life). Most especially when it concerns the personal life of someone like Prince William.

    First of all, many are still under the impression that Prince William and Miss Middleton are a romantic couple. Recent photos and the way they have been “sold” to the public, may appear to give that impression when in fact nothing could be further from the truth. That hasn’t been the situation for many, many months now (as I’ve said before). On the other hand, I realise it’s an understandable misconception as the separation hasn’t been “officially” announced (although there had been the intention for it to become publicly known quite a while back – that decision was put aside).

    Secondly, The Daily Mail article is not accurate in it’s description of events. For example, quoting a phrase from the article : ” The prince was yesterday holed up at Highgrove, his father’s Gloucestershire estate with his girlfriend, his father and stepmother, the Duchess of Cornwall, where they discussed the scandal.”
    That’s a complete fabrication. Miss Middleton was not at Highgrove with Prince William and his family to discuss anything. Contrary to the vague and absurd notion some “royal watchers” seem to have, Miss Middleton has never been made privy to the intimate conversations that take place within the family. Although it is true Prince William and Miss Middleton had dinner after the Polo match.

    Of course I wouldn’t dream of asking that any one take only my word for it…

    - Karagiosis

  • Rman #78 - July 19, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    I really don’t think any of this was staged but a private moment caught on camera, now it was leaked at the right time but not staged. I don’t think this couple stage their love for anyone.

    I have to agree with you sojourner, the voyeurism thing made me feel a bit uncomfortable. I just thought it was an invasion of privacy. I like seeing the couple together like this but their privacy needs to be respected. The Sun released it at the right time though.

  • sojourner #79 - July 19, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    So, Rman, you suggesting that I include the Sun in my one-person campaign of consumer advocacy, and purchase a copy along with the Independent? :-D

  • sojourner #80 - July 19, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Karagiosis,

    thanks for not asking, since all my beliefs require evidence :lol:

  • Rman #81 - July 19, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Karagiosis, it’s obvious that everything is fine with William & Kate and have been for a longtime so please don’t start. Be happy for the couple, don’t rain on their parade.

  • sojourner #82 - July 19, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    The plot thickens…

    The Royal Forum, December 14, 2008.

    Seventh Poster from top of page, Varya. A Kate Hater, his post includes a collage of pictures of the Middletons.

    Guess who/what is included? The exact. same. pictures that appeared in the NoTW: “Maison of Bang Bang” and “Uncle Unclean cutting coke.”

    Check it out and tell me if I am wrong.
    http://royaltruth.info/index.php?topic=7069.105

    You can also find the collage at
    http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a296/karmie03/Forum%20Signatures/MiddleTRASHsig.jpg

    I am running out to load up on Godivas!

  • sojourner #83 - July 19, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Correction:
    Not Royal Forum, but Royal Truth, and the Varya poster appears to have the rank of “prince” (ha ha haaa) and be a moderator.

    So unless he can update his signature collage in all past posts, these pictures are not new.

  • Rman #84 - July 19, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    LOL, I guess so sojourner. I know I would feel very uncomfortable if someone was taking pictures and filming me kissing my girlfriend. This is why the couple is so private, they don’t want the worlds media all up in their grill when they are trying to get their freak on.

  • mapleleaf #85 - July 19, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Karagiosis, unless you are unable to see very well, the photos of William and Kate kissing should be a clue to you that they are together.

    It’s unlikely that William would snog a woman that he is not in relationship with in the middle of a car park under a very bright light.

    Those weren’t cheek kisses, that was full-on snogging, with arms around each other. In a car park. Under a light. In full sight of any passersby.

    Give it up Karagiosis, it simply won’t work. You just come across as either an extremely delusional person, or a troublemaker who is frustrated because William’s behaviour is totally and completely at odds with your statements, and every time you say something, William contradicts your statements with his actions.

    ;) So far in the ‘being correct department’, you’re 0 for 6.

    If you ask me, those are NOT good odds for accuracy.

  • perfect #86 - July 19, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Very true!!

  • jj #87 - July 19, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    I think the independent article is excellent damage control and I am glad it is written. I’m sure there are some families with very few skeletons in their closet but most families have some. It’s very unfortunate that this story came out. I think the news of the world is a disgusting publication which purposely goes out to entrap people, Sophie, Guy Pelly and now Kate’s uncle. However let it not be said that I do not agree with Kate’s uncles actions at all, they are if true wrong but I just don’t agree with the press digging for dirt for digging for dirt sake. They are not printing the article to help anybody they are printing it to sell newspapers.

    I love the pictures of PDA regardless of whether they were taken as a staged kiss for damage control or just caught of guard. Either way William is showing exactly how he feels.

  • Sojourner #88 - July 20, 2009 at 12:06 am

    And while I munch of my Godivas…

    I was trying to remember why Karagiosis name was familiar. I called an former roommate who studied greek, and now I remember. Karagiozis is an poor, old, but mischevous hunchback of greek folklore.

    Thus now I think our Karagiosis might be having fun with us… In other words, he/she is droll and not a troll :-)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karagiozis

  • curious #89 - July 20, 2009 at 12:52 am

    ‘an accident waiting to happen’

    Just wondering how did it take so long to find this delicious Uncle Gary?

    Lovely PDA/PR photos in the Sun!

  • bluefire #90 - July 20, 2009 at 2:02 am

    i dont think we should blame kate for her uncle wrong doings oh i love the photos pda are lovely

  • meg #91 - July 20, 2009 at 3:10 am

    Sojourner: if you update an avatar/collage likie this, all the past ones will be updated automaticlly so thiscollage is probably made yesterday.
    Today I really love Kate and Will. They know what they are doing!!

  • Perplexed #92 - July 20, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    “Give it up Karagiosis, it simply won’t work. You just come across as either an extremely delusional person, or a troublemaker who is frustrated because William’s behaviour is totally and completely at odds with your statements, and every time you say something, William contradicts your statements with his actions.”

    Then why did you invite her to post?

  • sojourner #93 - July 20, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Perplexed,
    In all fairness, Mapleleaf did not invite, but rather wondered aloud rhetorically.

    On the other hand, it is understandable that Karagiosis may have chosen to acknowledge the fact she was named.

    Nothing untoward.

  • Ig #94 - July 20, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    I think it’s rather terrible that you all sit here and defend this druggo simply because there is a link to Kate. Do I think Kate is to blame? Of course not but please do not excuse Gary Goldsmith’s behaviour on Kate’s behalf. This guy is not one to feel sorry for. He deals in drugs and he takes them. End of story. There is no defence for that. Drugs ruin lives.

    And to the person who called some people “retarded”: you sound really pathetic and just as bad as those who you condemn. This is the exact same reason I mostly choose to avoid these types of sites. Why can’t you all stick to intelligent debate instead of slaggin eachother off?

  • Lisa #95 - July 20, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Oh maybe we should all join the “intelligent debate” over that the other site where they are literally accusing the Middleton family of using drug money to finance their lifestyl,e condemming people they don’t ever know nor will they ever know because they don’t like the girlfriend of someone they don’t know and will never know. How intelligent is that?

    I don’t recall seeing anyone here supporting Uncle Gary other then to say they feel sorry for him. If he is,indeed a criminal, he will face the proper authorities and be tried by an impartial jury, not some internet lynch mob with an agenda.

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