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September 13th, 2009 11:31
A little bit on PH and CD…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1213135/Prince-Harrys-romance-Chelsea-Davy-appears–on.html
September 13th, 2009 23:11
im leaving two weeks
September 14th, 2009 02:51
Have a good trip bluefire!
September 14th, 2009 08:45
Yes, have a nice and safe trip bluefire.
September 14th, 2009 12:12
Weird article..??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-1213389/Eve-McGowans-property-gossip-Why-Courtneys-Love-Hove.html
September 14th, 2009 12:15
I read that article this morning,jj. It was really weird for sure.
September 14th, 2009 12:39
I too read that little artical, I may be alone in thinking this but for a long time now I have felt that destiny is what brought William & Kate together. I’m not saying this because of the artical but I just feel something in the heavens is at work.
September 14th, 2009 16:25
Rman, if only you were right.
I am desperately hoping that it is meant to be.
With William and Catherine, I mean.
But honestly… What sort of man makes their girl wait forever? When will he step it up and be a man? I’m not sure I want him as my future king.
And I know that William hasn’t made a definite plan as of now.
I know this because my best friend’s related to Baroness Willoughby de Eresby and she is best friends with the Queen(in case you don’t know who she is, she was maid of honour to the Queen’s coronation) and the Baroness have said that she doubts that Wills will willingly ask Catherine to marry him.(I was there when the Baroness was saying this in reply to a question about any future royal wedding plans, this was at the Burghley Horse Trials at Lincolnshire on the 4th I believe.)
And I don’t know why, but when I was at the event, when people referred to William’s girlfriend, they always said Catherine. Not Kate, but Catherine. And then when I asked my friend why, she said that nobody in Wills’ circle calls Catherine, Kate.
Am I the only one unaware of this?
September 14th, 2009 16:26
In the post above, who I meant by the Queen’s best friend and maid of honour for the coronation, I mean the Baroness. Not my best friend, haha.
September 14th, 2009 16:37
Elizabeth,
… how old is your friend? Could the Baroness be holding out for a Royal romance for your friend?
in fun only
I have always heard that some of Catherine’s (
!) biggest detractors were aristocrats who resented the fact that she was not of their class, or who honestly thought she would not fare well as a Royal, because of her lack of familiarity with the demands.
September 14th, 2009 17:01
Sojourner-
Oh no, my friend is thirty-five, married, AND have a toddler and a baby with her husband of ten years, haha.
And on the contrary, most of the royal circle like her, but disapprove of Wills’ lack of showing commitment to her, and how lightly Wills talk about the marriage matter. It doesn’t really seem like he’s popular amongst his so-called “friends.” But then most of them are middle-aged or elderly so I suppose it doesn’t matter.
The only person they don’t REALLY like(who is considered an “outsider”) is her mother, Carole. I thought that was just a rumour or some poof that stupid paps just made up, but it’s true. The Duchess of Westminster doesn’t speak too favourably of Catherine’s mother, with her circle of friends.
But then apparently the Duchess is a nasty woman and her youngest son is a brat, so I don’t know what to believe.
September 14th, 2009 17:09
Oh and another thing,
Supposedly most of the people that Catherine should be impressing(not Wills’ self-righteous Eton friends but I mean people who are close to the Queen, elderly people) do like her but the only problem is(apart from the mother) that they think she is too sweet of a girl.
Because those royals, those aristocrats in their tight little circles and impossible tastes, can be pretty cold and nasty. Not to mention pretentious as hell.
And you’d think, well to hell with them, let Catherine do whatever she wants. But the problem is, it’s not like that. I feel so, SO sorry for this girl because she really does have to be perfect in every single way for these so very, very imperfect people in order to even start to have a normal life with Wills.
And to those who say, she should just leave him, it doesn’t work that way either.
If she leaves him, then those royals will talk about what a wretched and horrible girl she is, and gossip to her breaking point.
It’s really not just the paps apparently. It’s the people that are near to her boyfriend who will talk and cause social damage.
September 14th, 2009 17:43
Hello All,
Elizabeth, I have no doubt that these two will marry. They will lets us know when in due time.
As for Kate’s mother, I think it’s all rumor. The press portray Carole as a pushy mother and who will do anything to make her daughter a future Queen. I think that’s a pretty unfair rumor about Carole. I don’t see William being associated with family that wants to climb the social ladder. To me the Middletons look like a warm, hard working and fun family that has been affected by the baggage of being so closely linked to the second in line to the throne.
There are many rumors made up about the Middletons and I think that happened because William did not fall in love with a girl from his social station like many thought he would. He grew up and became friends with many young women who is from the old aristocratic families he knows so well. It don’t seem like these women are his cup of tea and that got many in his social class angry so rumors about the Middletons started to fly. The press highlighted these rumors and now the internet forums is taking it to new heights.
Although this is just what I think, I don’t think it’s far from the truth.
September 14th, 2009 18:06
Rman,
I don’t base what I say on my opinion. My opinion is simple as this. William and Catherine belong together. They should get married because Catherine deserves it. I don’t care about other things.
But about Carole, Catherine’s mother and other things, I have heard this DIRECTLY coming from aristocrats and their social circles. Social circle that William is involved in, and which I am sure that he is.
I may not be an aristocrat, but I have some friends who are, as they say “privileged.”
So it REALLY does not matter to me that Catherine comes from a hard-working family or from an aristocratic family. I’ve a wide variety of people I call friends, and I like knowing what is a rumour and what isn’t. I don’t live on ambiguity.
I’ve heard these aristocrats talk about many things, and the story that they don’t like Catherine, is what the paps made up. In fact, the paps don’t have a pence of an idea what is going on. But what the paps have said about Carole, Catherine’s mother, is coincidental truth.
Kate is well-behaved in the manner that she keeps up with the “royal” etiquette.
Carole has done a fantastic job raising up a well-behaved lady, but she herself gives off not-so-ladylike behaviours. Like crossing her legs in public, talking about doilies in good society.
It’s not that they don’t think she’s a bad person. It’s that she just simply(and I mean Carole) doesn’t fit in very well with the upper crust circle in her style of living and occasional ostentatious behaviour.
In my observations, everything matters to the upper-class.
Where you get your clothes tailored.
Whether or not you get your hats custom-made at Lock & Co. or Philip Treacy.
I don’t know where you’re from, but here in the U.K., if you are going to be part of the upper-class, you have to get EVERYTHING right.
There is no excuse for a misstep. And I’m talking about newcomers like the Middletons going into the cobrapit.
I have no doubt that the Middletons are lovely, why else would William be with Catherine?
But a fact is a fact, and the truth is the truth.
September 14th, 2009 18:38
Compared to the average Joe, Carole Middleton probably is fairly normal behaviour wise. I’m surprised that it would specifically be her behaviour that would be singled out.
She may not be what I would consider to be high-class, but I’ve seen behaviour from her children that is far raunchier than anything I’ve seen from her. Did you say that crossing one’s legs is considered unlady-like? And talking about doilies? I’d take that over peeing on the street (James Middleton), crotch-shots (Kate Middleton, and wearing a tp dress (Pippa Middleton) any day.
I don’t think that anyone should get married because someone “deserves” it. That makes it sound like a consolation prize.
Those are very interesting insights Elizabeth.
September 14th, 2009 18:39
Elizabeth.
your post was interesting. I do have a question. In your opinion is William just marriage shy because of what happened with his parents’ marriage or does William just not love her? I see two people who are in love with each other. They have been together a long time and they look like they fit each other. In the picture of them at the polo match, they look like they are happy being in each other’s company. To me they look like two people who are deeply in love with each other. Other people descriptions of how they are in private seems to bear this out. Rman, I am in their corner. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I think that they will make it.
September 14th, 2009 18:59
That is a good question Kat. I would wonder, if it is true that people around PW/the Queen are negative about situation, are they influencing PW in some way, or would he be strong enough to stand up to them and propose to her if that is what he would so choose to have his future be? I’ve always thought of him as being rather defiant even in the face of criticism.
September 14th, 2009 19:14
Elizabeth,
You should think about writing fiction. After you take some grammer lessons.
September 14th, 2009 19:22
Elizabeth, thank you for the interesting insight and insider information. I think there will be people who won’t believe you about Kate (or Catherine) being liked. Not because what you’re saying doesn’t sound realistic, because IMO it sounds very realistic. I believe you about the aristocrats and their cobrapit attitudes towards knowing the right tailors and milliners, etc.
But some people will simply refuse to believe that elderly people who are close to the Queen, the Queen herself, and those in the Royal circle like Kate.
There are people who won’t believe you simply because they don’t want to believe that the aristos like Kate. They’ll say that it’s true that the aristos don’t like Carole, but that it’s not true the the aristos like Kate, or that they think she’s too sweet of a girl.
There are some people who have imagined what they think Kate Middleton is like, they hope or imagine that Kate is disliked by the Royals and the aristos, and they do NOT want to hear that Kate is liked by anyone other than some members of the public that they call ‘Kate fans’.
So thank you for your insight and for offering a different viewpoint of the situation.
Speaking only for myself, I think that what you’re saying is feasible. I take everything that I see on the internet with a grain of salt because it would be illogical for me to believe everything I read; it’s just plain good sense to be cautious. but what you’re saying does sound realistic to me.
I also think it’s possible that the older crowd around HM are guessing just like the rest of us when it comes to William and when he will propose.
I’ve read often enough that Wills has refused to confide in anyone regarding his and Kate’s future plans. I think it’s totally unlikely that Wills is going to confide in any elderly aristo sharks what he and his girlfriend plan to do in future.
So, I guess we’re all still waiting to see what happens. My ‘guesstimation’ is an engagement announcement in 2010 after the elections are over, with the wedding happening in 2011.
September 14th, 2009 19:33
Kat-
I am sure that William loves Catherine very much. It will be very hard not to, after all those years. And it’s ridiculous to say that he does not love her.
But you are right on the point. William may have a problem with the idea of marriage because he saw how it was with his parents.
I studied psychology at Cambridge and we had this whole term long study about the effects of divorce on children. And in Wills’ case, he may be thinking, “why get married when I have something so great? Everything is fantastic, why would I ruin that with marriage?” Many children of divorcees go on life thinking this way, which becomes quite a big problem for their partners. That’s the most likely case.
But if that is not the case, then maybe he loves her, but is not in love with her. It was said that about five and a half years ago, when William was on the breaking point of his relationship with Catherine, he was asked by many people about marrying Catherine. He said that he loves her, but did not love her to the point of marriage. And no, I didn’t get this from the paps. I don’t trust the British media. Not even an ounce. I get Royal updates about everyone(not just William and his family) because of my best friend. Her mother is a social butterfly and so is she, possibly because of her “upper-crust” family name and reputations.
But what I’m trying to say is, William and Catherine may or may not be in love. Most likely, NOT in love, because it is so hard to still be in that fluttering love stage after you reach a certain point, especially when you have everyone nagging at you about your relationship with your partner. They may BOTH be sticking by each other’s side because they’re getting older, and they truly love each other. They don’t need to be IN LOVE to be together. Marriage, especially in royal circles, can turn into a partnership.
Like the Vane-Tempest-Stewarts and how it is so widely known that the family is infamous for having “partnership” marriages.
It really isn’t a big deal.
In truth and in reality, it’s not the romantic fairy-tale that is going on between William and Catherine. Before being in love, before being the happy couple, they know they have their roles in society, and that role comes first. NO ONE should be, say, jealous of or chastising Catherine. People should be pitying her instead. It is NOT easy being in the middle of all the mess that is high society. People WILL talk, and it WILL determine where you stand in society. Forget the paps, forget the outsiders. It’s what’s inside that matters. Always. It’s always been this way, and it always will be. It’s called the British Upper-Class life.
September 14th, 2009 19:38
Mapleleaf-
I am most definitely hoping for a 2010 announcement and a wedding in 2011. It will definitely boost up this country’s spirits.
And yes, William is very secretive regarding his relationship with Catherine, BUT it didn’t always use to be that way. There was a time when he would talk about his relationship with dear Catherine when it was brought up casually, amongst friends or polite reporters.
But now, he’s no choice but to be secretive because the media is always HOUNDING him and DEMANDING answers from him.
And about the internet, yes, I myself take that grain of salt. It’s always wise to.
September 14th, 2009 19:40
Dear Phoebe,
Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary…the word “grammer” does not exist. Did you mean “grammar”?
If you are going to be mean spirited, at least be accurate, so that you do not look foolish.
September 14th, 2009 19:41
PHOEBE-
I find it rather hilarious that you’re telling ME to get grammAR lessons, when you yourself have made quite a stupid spelling mistake.
And I could care less whether or not some strangers believe me.
I am just putting in my insight. You can put yours in, for all I care.
September 14th, 2009 19:42
Eli, ML is right, you’ll be called a Kate Fan, and the Queen and her circle, and the aristos.
Poor sweety Kate really, hope God protects her. We do not want another kinda tragedy.
September 14th, 2009 19:46
No apologies. I think you are a total fraud.
September 14th, 2009 19:49
Oh Jayhawk-
In “normal” OUR society, crossing your legs is what most women do.
But in “well-mannered” high society, it’s not considered very lady-like to cross your legs. It’s always tilted to the side, knees together. Never leaning to the back of your seat, always sit(around) on the edge of your chair.
And yes, I know about Carole’s children.
But James and Philippa hardly matters. It’s CATHERINE and her mother who’re always around the people that “matter.” It’s CATHERINE and her mother who everyone’s paying attention to.
Sure, because of the Middletons’ family “troubles” their image may be tinted a bit, but as long as Catherine remain being a lady, there’s still a lot left to salvage. But if her mother is going to remain in the scene…Well, Carole definitely needs to learn some ways.
September 14th, 2009 19:50
Jayhawk, to this day I don’t know why people continue to think Kate flashed her ‘crotch’ for the media. The girl fell but was fully covered and there was no ‘crotch shots’. I just will never fully understand why some people continue to say that.
There are so many speculations to why they haven’t married yet it’s not even funny. I do believe it will happen soon though, everyone must remain patient about it.
Elizabeth I still think all this stuff about Carole Middleton is made up. The whole crossing leg thing is silly, I have seen pictures of senior royal ladies cross their legs in public, including the Queen. I just think there’s a great deal of snobbery directed towards the Middletons. The press has made this clearly known recently.
I think some people is taking this class issue too serious today, the funny part is that William, the future King don’t take the class issue serious.
September 14th, 2009 19:52
Indeed very interesting posts Elizabeth.
September 14th, 2009 19:54
Rman, I think you are mistaken.
The Queen most certainly does not cross her legs. That I cannot believe, until I get proof.
I find it laughable that the Queen would cross her legs.
I am most definitely a Catherine fan. There is no way that William will get anyone better than her. She is beautiful and poised in every single way.
But that is what I’ve heard of her mother. I don’t really care if it’s right or wrong as long as Catherine and William get married!!
September 14th, 2009 20:22
Elizabeth… Thank you for your insight. I really appreciate it. I almost feel sorry for Catherine with what she’s getting into. I only hope that William is worth it. I hope it’s not the case of him being uncommitted, but simply being very secretive and unwilling to share his marriage plans with the world.
A question if you’re still there: What about the Queen herself and Prince Charles? What seems to be their views regarding Catherine?
September 14th, 2009 20:25
Very interesting posts and please lets not fight, lol.
I believe all the specualtions and rumors about William & Kate has made it look like there’s no real love there, just two people who are comfortable with each other. I find that sad because I don’t think these two would go though all the pressure, criticism and harassmet if they didn’t really love each other. What I like about this couple is that they keep their deep love for each other private, that way no one can take that away from them.
The press and public tried to make it seem like Charles & Diana really didn’t love each other too but in her 1995 interview, Diana made it known that rumor wasn’t true. She and Charles did love each, they just found it hard to keep their marriage together with all the pressure they was under. I think their son and his girlfriend is doing a good job of not letting the press and harsh internet criticism ruin what they have together. That alone tells me that the love between them is deep.
September 14th, 2009 20:31
Elizabeth,
If your information is true (and I’m not saying it’s not), do you have any insight on Zara and Mike’s wedding plans? Or maybe the whole Chelsy Davy ordeal? Is the buzz just exclusively William and Kate?
September 14th, 2009 20:35
Dagsi-
You’re welcome.
Unfortunately, I’ve no idea what the Queen’s views are.
Prince Charles remains a mystery as well.
But if Wills really wants to marry Catherine, it will happen. No matter what anyone else thinks. It’s just a matter of whether or not she’ll be safe and not in the middle of some dreadful gossip. Or torn apart like Diana and driven to bulimia or something terrible.
Let us cross our fingers, eh?
September 14th, 2009 20:39
LOL, yes Elizabeth I have seen pictures of the Queen with her legs crossed. The same goes for Diana and Princess Anne was just at the Highland Games with her legs crossed. I’ll try to find the pictures for you.
dagsi, it’s known that Charles really likes Kate and of course we know the he did teach her how to hunt at Balmoral. The Queen and Kate has never been photographed together but the Queen did acknowledge Kate by inviting her to the Order of the Garter ceremony last year and she has met her a few times, so it’s believed that she likes Kate too.
September 14th, 2009 20:48
Rman-
Of course they love each other very deeply.
Anyone can see that.
I was talking about whether or not they were really IN love.
But that really doesn’t matter. Only that they love each other. You are right.
atx-
I’m not much of a gossiper. Or a social butterfly. I only take in things that are of interest to me, and that is stories about people I’ve met, and my future king and queen.
To be completely honest, I was totally obsessed with Catherine for awhile. I thought of her(still do) like Grace Kelly. And that was the reason why I started asking my friend for her insights and any new gossips.
But I do know, from my knowledge(and what I heard), Chelsy Davy is completely out of the picture. I’ve never truly liked her. Probably because compared to Kate, she didn’t seem like royal material. Harry and Chelsy don’t hate each other. In fact they went to the Jack Wills Polo event thing together(everyone was talking about it, I didn’t get to go though:(), and this was “after” their supposed split or whatever.
It’s how couples go. With my ex-girlfriend(yes I like women) it’s like there will always be a thing for her. I’ve had this on-and-off relationship with this girl for such a long time and in the end we both just got sick of it. Perhaps we will try again when we know exactly what we want.
I’m positive that’s how it is with Harry and Chelsy.
I thought she went back to South Africa for some reason. But then I saw her a couple weeks ago around Wycombe Road(in Kensington) at 11 in the night dressed up. I saw her at Zaika as well, having dinner with some bloke. It’s like she’s everywhere. I wish I could see Catherine just once. Sigh.
September 14th, 2009 20:51
Rman-
I would appreciate it if you would find the photos for me!!
I think I’ll find them fascinating, as I(for some strange reason) have honestly never seen the Queen cross her legs. O.O Is that strange?
And even stranger, I don’t know why royal ladies would cross their legs. After all, It IS considered ill manners to do so.
Thank you though!
September 14th, 2009 21:00
Wow, I guess I’ll never fit into the British upper crust, then. I cross my legs all the time.
Elizabeth –
I know you probably have more important things to do, so thanks for answering all these silly questions.
You mentioned that you weren’t sure you wanted Wills to be your king. Is it because he hasn’t married Catherine after all these years? Or is there something else in his personality that you dislike? He seems to be doing pretty decent from where I stand, and his personality seems fitting enough to make a fine monarch…
September 14th, 2009 21:07
Elizabeth,
Thanks for the good conversaton tonight. I enjoyed reading all the posts on this thread. I think much of what you siad “fits” with all the details that have been debated and discussed over the years.
I agree with your point about gossip and the way the inner circle operates. Diana was of their world and even she was eaten alive. I think it will be a rough world Kate will marry into if she marries PW. I also believe the marriage is William’s choice and he hasn’t decided yet.
Thanks again for the interesting posts!
September 14th, 2009 21:10
Dagsi-
It’s quite alright. I am on a holiday and what a boring holiday it is!
Anyway,
I’m not sure I want Wills to be my king.
I understand that he is doing very well for himself so far, getting involved in all these charities and engagements.
BUT I can’t stand men(or women) who keep their partners waiting endlessly.
Perhaps it’s because I had to wait like that for twelve years, even during my university years.
It’s unfair and it’s very unsettling not knowing where your future lies with the significant other. It really is.
And when it ends, it’s truly heartbreaking.
And as a woman, it’s even harder. Because we are more emotional than men and a lot of times we need assuarance and security.
And how a man is to his wife or partner says a lot about the man.
So to me, a man who cannot even keep his personal life secure does not look very promising as a representative of my country.
But I do, I do respect the work he’s doing and how he seems to care for his country.
And I loved his mum.
September 14th, 2009 21:13
I just want to mention that actor Partick Swayze died today and my heart goes out to his family and the rest of his fans. He was truly a good actor and dancer.
September 14th, 2009 21:14
Clover-
Thank you and I’m glad that we all had an interesting chat about this.
99% of you have incredible internet manners. It’s amazing. Most forum chats go downhill around the 5th or 6th post.
September 14th, 2009 21:15
What!?!
Patrick Swayze?!?!?
No.. he was one of my favourite actors.. :’(
I hope his family is alright.
September 14th, 2009 21:17
What is the difference in saying two people are in love, as compare to two people love each other?
September 14th, 2009 21:20
R.I.P.
September 14th, 2009 21:24
Other than sweet, I do hope and apparently after these 5-6 years as William girlfriend, I do hope she’s a strong woman to withstand and hold all the royalistuff upper lip and all you (Elizabeth) mention.
I know its not a piece of cake, but its true, reading posts in other royal sites and all the bashing, one forgets the real protocol and what Kate (Catherine) endures 24/7.
September 14th, 2009 21:24
Elizabeth, we really try to keep the peace here and respect each others opinions.
Yes I’m sad about Patrick’s passing too. We lost some great people this year, some known and some unknown. Life is short.
September 14th, 2009 21:27
I agree Me.
September 14th, 2009 21:29
Thank you for the information, Elizabeth!
I’ve wanted some conclusion to the CD thing. I like her. I kind of felt the same way though, that first love is hard to let go. No matter how many times you “give it another shot”, it all ends up the same old BS that initially threw the axe on the relationship. Sad day.
September 14th, 2009 21:29
When I mean the bashing – its reading after one good post the down hill (other sites) as Elizabeth mentions and one forgets the…reality of what Kate might be feeling et all 24/7 with going out with The Baggage.
September 14th, 2009 21:43
RIP Patrick Swayze. The classic that was Dirty Dancing is the basis of all these celebrity dancing shows, IMO…
atx,
I like Chelsy, too. At first I thought she was not royal material, but she grew on me through the years. I think she and Harry fit very well. Harry can’t have a partner like Kate (the prim & proper, multiple conduct awardee from Marlborough kind of girl that she was). Someone like that would simply bore him. Now, I just don’t know what’s happening with all the Harry/Chelsy reconciliation rumors. If they get back together, it will be very hard for Chelsy, too, considering she’s contracted to work and study in London for the next 2-3 years. Privacy suicide!
September 14th, 2009 21:47
Dagsi
I have mixed views on the Harry Chelsy saga. I think they are a perfect fit for each other however I do not think she is a perfect fit for the royal family. IMO I just really don’t think that she will be able to cope with the confinement and rule driven royal family. I honestly think it will be too restrictive for her. Where that leaves their relationship who knows…
September 14th, 2009 21:51
Dv-
Being in love, to put it the best I can, is loving someone WITH the swooney, fluttery, butterflies in your stomach, infatuation-type feeling. After the first year or so, that feeling of “being in love” slowly become less and less as time goes by.
Don’t get me wrong, the love is still there. You still love that person very much. But that love could have developed into a specific kind of love. Spousal love, friendship love, partnership love, or just loving that person out of appreciation and affection because they stuck around for such a long time.
Just the kind of love that accepts everything of the other person, even flaws.
I hope I explained it okay.
September 14th, 2009 22:18
Elizabeth, gotcha with the love explanation…
JJ, I’m afraid you’re right. Perhaps Chelsy is too much of a free spirit to be bounded to the rigid rules of the RF. And maybe she’s the smart one to have chosen to bolt out of the relationship while she still could. Imagine… a lifetime of ribbon-cutting, hand-shaking, tea parties, polo matches, state visits… and that’s just the ok part. Add the courtiers, the gossip, the media into the mix… and the fact that you cannot retire until you’re dead!!! *sigh* I would never wish for a life like that.
September 14th, 2009 22:26
Dagsi,
I totally agree. Joining the RF could be a prison for someone with a personality like hers (CD’s). She could be that “breath of fresh air”, but SF was dubbed that three decades ago and we all know what happened to her and Andrew. Hopefully, everything will work out for her at A&O.
September 14th, 2009 22:32
Rman,
I have made a vow to always work to keep the peace around here. : )
It is so true about the loss of so many celebrities this year.
Dagsi,
Excellent summary of the trials and tribulations Kate will have to face if she marries PW. Her life will not be easy.
Elizabeth,
You have done a great job of explaining the difference between “new” love or being in love and “married” or long-term dating love.
September 14th, 2009 22:36
Thanks Elizabeth!
September 14th, 2009 22:52
You’re welcome and thank you everyone.
September 14th, 2009 22:59
One more question, did Kate have her private meeting with the queen. Did she and Prince William even go there this past August or Sept.?
September 14th, 2009 23:08
Kat, we really don’t have no idea if they went to Balmoral. They was in Scotland so they may have went over there to visit. We just have no way of knowing.
September 15th, 2009 08:16
Elizabeth -
Welcome! Interesting posts – hope you stick around and keep us updated on the latest gossip.
September 15th, 2009 08:44
This has been an interesting conversation to witness. I remain skeptical about posters persenting “inside information”, however. And there are some things here that just do not add up. In order to keep the peace, I shall cling to my salt shaker and continue to lurk.
September 15th, 2009 10:02
When you get your information on people from a social butterfly there is a chanse that the information can be a bit twisted before it reaches you, isn’t it? A friend knows somebody who talked to soembody……. I take that kind of information with a grain of salt.
September 15th, 2009 15:28
lisa i agree that i am sceptical about the whole insider thing as well. but when you say some of the things do not add up what do you mean? if the poster was lying then they are a certainly good liar or storyteller. they also did their reserch very well too. baroness willoughby is indeed a very good friend of the queen. but as for the other ppl mentioned i have no idea who they are. sad as i live in berkshire and its like the playground of the royals. IMO they would have to be a very good liar to make up such an elaborate tale with a lot of impressive details. but it was a very interesting read either way. if they are fibbing then i am very impressed that anyone would actually find the time and such effort to find all this info. but if they arent lying then thanks for the interesting gossip.
September 15th, 2009 16:30
Hi Frank, and welcome to the forums…
Glad to have someone from Berkshire around. Wondering what your local folk think about having one of your local girls date the future king?… Are the Middletons popular there?
September 15th, 2009 19:31
Frank,
Welcome! I agree with you about Elizabeth.
September 16th, 2009 00:19
Frank, Where in Berkshire are you from? It is a huge area. I live very near to the M family home and would be interested to know where you are. I certainly don’t agree that Berkshire is the playground of the Royal Family. Gloucester is! OK they weekend at Windsor but that’s about it.