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Kate Middleton’s uncle warned to change his lifestyle – Daily Mail (old article)
Gary Goldsmith claimed he had been approached by unspecified officials who urged him to ‘modify’ his hedonistic lifestyle on Ibiza, where he owns a £5million villa visited by his niece and Prince William, for fear of embarrassing them…
Prince Charles, Camilla to visit Canada in November – Canada.com
Making the first trip to Canada since their 2005 wedding, the royal couple will visit 12 cities in four provinces, including St. John’s, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver, between Nov. 2 and 12…
Is Fergie broke again? – Daily Mail
According to one royal source, Fergie has approached Buckingham Palace for financial help. The response from the Queen was said to have been: ‘Just tell her to stop spending.’…
Photos: Chelsy Davy walking in London – PurePeople
Hello! Scans: Kate Middleton at Starlight Charity Event – (Link in the Comments)
Thanks to Rman and bluefire for the links… and mapleleaf 
October 8th, 2009 10:04
I don’t know why that DM artical has been dug up again. It’s time to put the GG story to rest.
October 8th, 2009 12:02
I agree Rman. I dont’ think anyone really cares about Uncle G.
October 8th, 2009 13:52
More Uncle Gary articles? Poor Kate. Too bad this will be a blemish that will follow her for years. I still don’t understand how the actions of her uncle reflect on her as an individual.
October 8th, 2009 14:27
These are old UG articles. They are not new. People will loose interest if the same old articles are reprinted over and over again.
October 8th, 2009 14:37
I do not see the fuzz. Any article that is in an archive, even if the date is actualized is a dead for reference file.
The said articles have to be located using the search button. The said articles are not visual at home page, News, Sports, TV&Showbusiness, Femail, Health, Science&Tech, etc.
I see no paranoia about Uncle Gary.
The latest is he has been or is in the process of rehab. Hopefully this is true and it will be good for him.
October 8th, 2009 15:32
I’m glad so many people recognised that these articles are just preprints; they are the exact same articles that were printed in July, even down to the very comments that are dated as being posted in July.
October 8th, 2009 15:33
Sorry, I meant ‘reprints’ and not ‘preprints’ !
October 8th, 2009 15:38
ML,
We agree! If anything people will wonder why a newspaper like DM would run reprints and not update any of the articles. It is weird and doesn’t make sense.
October 8th, 2009 18:18
IMO, reprinting the articles makes it look like someone at the DM has an agenda where Kate is concerned. Isn’t it ironic that after the positive Starlight articles and the recent story about it being a matter of “when” and not “if”, this old trash is recycled. Call me a cynic, but it’s as if they can only take so much positive news where Kate is concerned.
October 8th, 2009 18:49
I do think the articals were rehashed due to some technical difficulties with the site but I still think the articals were very silly and totally unnecessary.
October 8th, 2009 18:54
I wonder whether they’ve just updated some wording due to legal reasons, etc and that’s just reset the date on the article.
October 8th, 2009 21:06
BRW, I think you’re exactly right about the reason they republished those 3 articles.
I something very similar in my post #81 under the ‘Kate in jeans and no makeup’ heading. I think they made some changes because of legal reasons.
I noticed that some of the comments had been removed, and all 3 articles were not allowing any new comments. That was very strange as well. IMO, it all adds up to some sort of legal situation.
October 8th, 2009 21:21
For what it’s worth, I read the DM most days, and whenever I go to the comments sections, it seems to be the same people commenting over and over ( like someone named Nettie from Planet Earth )- so I think that, as far as the comments section goes, they tend to pick people who have the point of view they’re looking for.
As for the articles themselves – someone over there doesn’t seem to like Kate very much. Even when they’re writing something good about her, they put a negative slant on it .
October 8th, 2009 22:32
There are so many reasons why these kind of articals are written. It seem like a hundred years ago when I use to come across news headlines like: “William’s Princess” or “William is in love”. Since nothing official has happened since these two left university, I think the media has had ample time to play around with Kate Middleton.
AJ, there always seem to be a negative slant to these articals and the crazy part is, many of these articals have a heavy influence on their readers and that’s one of the reasons why the comments seem soo nasty most of the time.
October 9th, 2009 05:24
well i think they are giving Kate Middleton a negative article to destroy kate and william relationship
October 9th, 2009 05:42
hey rman have you brought the new hello magazine can you scan it for me please
October 9th, 2009 07:56
You know, I think that Katie N is so jealous of KM. I think she is just mad that PW didn’t fancy her!!
October 9th, 2009 08:26
A couple more pics from today . . .
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/91652832/Getty-Images-News
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/91652921/Getty-Images-News
Very “smart” looking in the second one
October 9th, 2009 08:27
My view on it kd is that KN is a journalist and she wrote many many unflatterting articles about William Kate Chelsy and Harry & they sat up took notice and have started to ban her from certain events which they have power over, like the event Harry did in NYC where he banned KN.
Now because of that I think she took it personally and now it has become a little nasty. Some journalist I think just don’t seem to care they are just all about getting something out there to print to keep their bosses happy regardless of the effect it has on the person who is being written about.
It’s a very slow news week this week and I think it might be until December when we may see them out celebrating the christmas season.
October 9th, 2009 08:55
Fergie needs to drop the Duchess title (or, more appropriately, have it yanked from her grasp) and leave the royal family alone. She is not married to Prince Andrew and they owe her nothing. She will not remarry him because it means she’ll have to clean up her act; nor will she remarry someone else because then she’ll lose the Duchess title for sure. Fergie is pulling off quite a balancing act.
October 9th, 2009 09:28
PW needs to learn how to do something different with his hands.
October 9th, 2009 12:41
^ Phoebe, you just gave me a good laugh, but I won’t “go there”. Lol.
ML Littlefield, I think you summed it up pretty well.
October 9th, 2009 14:58
No double meanings were intended. I think the way he clasps his hands in front of him makes him look nervous, unsure of himself.
October 9th, 2009 17:02
Hello,
I previously mentioned that the number of stories and posts on internet and newspapers are a very small fraction of the views and comments circulating amongst the interested public most especially when ensconced in the rational parties and dinners in private houses especially in the Knightsbridge/Chelsea residential areas of London.
For the past eighteen months or so there has existed massive confusion amongst many who have in the past thought they had insider knowledge of exactly what was going on between PW/KM. As the sure information dried by the expulsion of so called friends of the couple from the inner circle , so the assumptions and predictions build up.
By far the most important and revealing is that the support of senior members of the RF for the PW/KM relationship is very much exagerated. These views may not go down well with die hard supporters but more and more instances of conflict between even close members of PW’s family who are disaproving of the relationship. However even they have to be careful as PW is a future head of the RF and one doesn’t cross a future Sovereign even in these enlightened days.
This “uncle story” seems to go on “ad nausium” but there is a view that HM is very displeased that PW has been compromised especially when it is revealed that security services were aware of his actions, and this displeaseure may well reflect adversly in her attitude to KM and in particular to her family.
PW however will not be bullied or dictated to despite the possibility of a family rift but the more any such adverse reaction to KM remains ,
so the possibility of an early resolution exists.
PW is himself seems to facing his own troubles especially in his RAF service where his ‘enforced distractions’ from his training are commented upon in many circles and casts doubt upon his decision making to extend his military service beyond the original time limits. His own CO at Shawbury initially said in essence that”‘his training will demand a singular concentration to avoid any danger to himself, his colleagues and members of the public and services who require the special requirements of a rescue operation.”
Many are unsure of his present position in relation to his service training and his royal duties especially over the past few months.
PW does seem very sure of himself where KM is concerned and it is pleasing that he is now showing just a little more support for KM by his actions despite the absence of any committal statements. In a way perhaps actions speak louder than words but it remains to be seen how and when PW will make his long term position with KM clear to her , her family, the world at large and more especially to the long suffering posters on this site who wait day after day, week after week, month after month and still year after year for those four little words.
October 9th, 2009 18:15
“By far the most important and revealing is that the support of senior members of the RF for the PW/KM relationship is very much exagerated.”
I agree to the extent that I am not convinced that the Queen is all that enthralled with the relationship. On the other hand, I think PC is wholeheartedly in support of whomever PW chooses, and the DC also. As far as any of the others, PA, PA, PE etc, they are irrelevant.
” there is a view that HM is very displeased that PW has been compromised . . . and this displeaseure may well reflect adversly in her attitude to KM and in particular to her family.”
I would hope not. This would make HM look very petty, and narrow-minded.
October 9th, 2009 18:33
a new Hello mag ( 12 October 2009):
“Starlight charity night”
http://tinyurl.com/yj3tus2
http://tinyurl.com/yljdqam
http://tinyurl.com/yha97lf
October 9th, 2009 18:34
http://tinyurl.com/yzhhxah
http://tinyurl.com/yjs5mgl
http://tinyurl.com/yk98nd6
October 9th, 2009 18:36
Very interesting post Ked.
Displeasure on the part of HM would definitely be in keeping with her apparent straight-laced personality.
I think it is human nature for people (including members of the RF) to have watched KM to gauge what kind of potential she has or has not shown. Some members of the RF may be just as much in the dark about the PW/KM relationship as those who are strangers to PW and KM.
I would imagine the RF are very proud people who would want PW to marry in keeping with his full potential and the admiration felt for him worldwide.
PW strikes me as being a person who does not wear his inner-most feelings on his sleeve, and who yearns to experience some normalcy, even if it is at the risk of criticism from those around him. At the same time, he also strikes me as being a person who will wait until he knows what he wants before taking definitive action.
If he truly does want to marry KM, I believe he will have his way. But I think that if he does not want to marry her, he will not just abandon the Middletons. He will still be friendly with KM and her family and I personally think that is what we are seeing right now.
KM is in the unenviable position of not being compared directly to others her age. However nice the KM and the Middletons may be, they are increasingly looking like more of a liability than ever and I don’t think there is a lot they can do about it at this late stage.
October 9th, 2009 18:41
more Hello stuff
http://tinyurl.com/yzhhxah
http://tinyurl.com/yjs5mgl
http://tinyurl.com/yk98nd6
October 9th, 2009 19:08
Good Evening All,
Ked I’m glad to hear from you. I enjoyed reading your post.
I don’t think anyone in William’s family disapprove of the relationship. I think they have embraced Kate and they showen their support. The only reason why I say this Ked, because Kate has not earned the royals disapproval. She has been very discreet from day one, her family has been very discreet, she has showen her loyalty and support for William and his royal role. When their relationship hit a bump in the road back in 07, she didn’t utter a Syllable about what happened. I don’t think this relationship would have come this far if the royal family disapproved of it.
I think the royals and royal courtiers recognize that William’s relationship with Kate attracts a great deal of media interest because of his position in the family. I think they also realize that since this couple really don’t provide any answers to the million dollar questions, the media’s interest gets a bit nuts and have been very impressed on how they are handling the pressure. I don’t think William’s family is putting any pressure on him but probably offering him the advice they think he needs.
I personally think William & Kate’s union would solve a great deal of confusion. I just think it’s time for this lady to come out of the background, for her to be at his side, for her to help him with his charity work and for her future subject to get a chance to know this young lady. The public have no connection with Kate and they only information they get about her is from the tabloids.
I hope and pray that something official will happen next year.
You are right Ked, it’s always good to see William out showing his support to Kate’s charity work. I think we need to see more of this couple out doing charity work together. I think if they collaborative they would bring worthy causes to the worlds focus and bring about some change.
October 9th, 2009 19:22
Well Jayhawk Diana did say in her 1995 interview that William is a very deep thinker and she did tell her friends that he is old before his time. I think this guy is in love with Kate and he will decide when it’s time to get down on one knee. I have a gut feeling that by next year we will know where this is going.
Some like to think William & Kate is nothing more than just friends but I think it’s pretty clear that they are way more than that. I have to admit that I’m truly inspired by this couple. I see so many young welknown couples split because of the pressure they face but this couple keeps going on strong no matter who disapproves of it. I personally see real love between these two and I’m happy for them.
October 9th, 2009 20:07
Well, I guess if you were here with me, maybe I’d bet you a cider. LOL
October 9th, 2009 21:29
LOL, are you in London Jayhawk?
October 9th, 2009 21:43
“they are increasingly looking like more of a liability than ever”
No, I don’t think so.
October 9th, 2009 22:21
I don’t think so either Phoebe. I think people have to understand that if the Middleton family were becoming a big problem, then William would probably address this and you would see a change in things. He has become very close to this family and he don’t seem to have a problem with them.
I think we just have to be careful to not become too overly critical about these people. They are just a family who is trying to deal with the fact that a close family member may become the future Queen of England. I think they are taking William’s baggage into their stride. I personally don’t think Kate would have made it this far if she didn’t have a very supportive and close family to lean on.
October 9th, 2009 23:06
This is a very interesting story about who’s the head of state in Canada.
http://tinyurl.com/yknhylt
October 9th, 2009 23:07
hello guys,
ked I enjoyed your post and while I agree with some of it,I also disagree with other parts of it. largely my doubts come in that I feel William plays things very close to the vest so most of the info out there,IMO, is “whispering down the lane”. I also feel that if the RF or certain senior members, were opposed to this relationship, Kate would have been gone by now. It is true,however that the older William gets.the more power he will gain, so trying to tell the man who to marry or who to be with will become more difficult as time passes. My general feeling regarding William and Kate is that they are on their own course and when it leads to St Pauls, we will hear about it. It could be awhile,though as these two seem is no hurry to grow up and accept the huge responsibility of the monarchy.
Where I agree with your thoughts ked is in the area of the military training,which seems to allow him an awful lot of free time and that is not how this program was represented at the onset. Not sure what is going on there.
October 10th, 2009 00:04
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/2676975/When-Harry-met-Chelsy-Part-2.html
October 10th, 2009 00:27
Go ahead Harry and get your woman back!
Nice to see them out togther.
October 10th, 2009 00:54
Finally! A proof of the reconciliation. I want more pics. Chelsy looks a bit glum. Hope the paps don’t scare her away. I think Harry & Chelsy are handling their relationship nicely… keeping a lower profile.
October 10th, 2009 04:43
i would love to see them together
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219417/Second-time-lucky-Prince-Harry-Chelsy-Davy-spotted-intimate-night-out.html
update
October 10th, 2009 08:44
No Rman, I’m in apparently what would be considered to be the Northwest of England. Last night I was in a computer lab next to a pub and could hear the sounds of the people filtering in through the open window, hence the inspiration to bet a cider.
I did venture to London while on a layover at Heathrow Airport. I saw a lot of sights around Buckingham Palace which was really fun.
October 10th, 2009 09:39
Rman, I agree with your posts. Your reasoning is logical. I think it’s just a matter of time.
Phoebe, I also agree that the Middleton family is NOT a liability. I apologize for “going there” but it amazes me when people say that about Kate considering Camilla’s role in the monarchy — and those were HER actions and HER decisions. So please tell me how Kate’s wayward UNCLE could or should prevent her from becoming William’s princess?
October 10th, 2009 10:14
Katharine, you are very right. There is no family on the planet without a blemish or two. Just ask the Windsors.
One thing ked said in his post that was so true. Actions speak louder then words for William and his actions are loud and clear. The words will come in time.
October 10th, 2009 10:58
Ked’s info makes me wonder now why Her Majesty has never been seen with Kate Middleton.
William does support the Middletons that is nice to hear, but if the Queen is not sure about this union, it will be a uphill road for the pair.
I feel bad for Kate, I was hoping all those apprehensions were dissolved by now. Good luck to them what ever William decides to do. Maybe there will be some happy news, by Christmastime, about the couple.
October 10th, 2009 13:33
Could the reason be why HM has not taken a picture with Kate be, that once it is taken there will be a greater frenzy of engagement talk? I wonder if it is HM’s reluctance for another wedding of a senior royal. Being a very thoghtful monarch, I am sure that she is being careful as to not have another C and D. It seems to me that from what I have read, if she was that negative about Kate Kate would be history. Correct me if I am wrong, I think that once William and Kate are ready to make it official, there will be pictures of Kate and HM taken for all to enjoy
October 10th, 2009 14:23
Evening All,
Kat that’s right, it’s all about timing. We have seen the Queen acknowledge Kate at the Garter ceremony but when the time comes, we will see Kate and the Queen together. God knows what’s coming next year but hopefully it will take place next year.
October 10th, 2009 16:17
woo hoo
go chelsy and harry
i hope this works out
Ked i beleive there are people very close to William that don’t want him with Kate
never mind the naysayers there may be in the public
i beleive thouhg the more tha others push him not to be with her the more he will want to be with her
i wish they wouldleave him to make up his own mind
i would hate for him to make a decision based on crossing others ….
they need to get on with it the two of them…
and figure it out together
i think him showing up to the starlight was a really really nice gesture
i think that the ug story is old and that the middletons have shown they dont want anything to do with him now – which is sad – but if that is the way they want it then everyone else should move on
as long as kate isnt into this lifestyle he loves
and william wasntè invflucended by it then i amfine to beleive that ug is out of the picture
October 10th, 2009 17:34
I love these stories coming out that Prince Philip said in an interview that he is “baffled” by technology and that you practically have to make love to a television set to figure out how to use one.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8300524.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/6289355/Duke-of-Edinburgh-baffled-by-television-remote-control.html
October 10th, 2009 17:56
http://londonpreppy.blogspot.com/2007/10/tuesday-231007.html
I dont know if anyone ever posted these or saw it but i read it and thought it was funny…
October 10th, 2009 19:15
Daily Mail article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219481/Prince-William-rescue-pilot-lands-mess.html
October 10th, 2009 22:49
Thanks for the link,jj. Why do you suppose Katie Nicholl always HAS to bring up Kate spending the night with William. For pete’s sake they are 27 years old! She seriously needs new material.
October 10th, 2009 22:54
Ked,
I enjoyed reading your post! We will have have to wait, despite all the theories everyone is spinning about what the insiders feel or do not feel about Kate and PW. We will all have to wait until PW makes up his mind about HIS future. No one knows which way this will go, that is what makes it so appealing to all of us IMO!
October 10th, 2009 23:01
I read the article. What struck me was the part that Kate had to ask permission to stay over. Why not William? Is that customary for the armed forces in England? Is it part of the discipline that goes along with the SAR training. I just wondered why that would be included in an article. Also, this is going to happen next year. Why bring it up when it is at least several months off?
October 10th, 2009 23:04
Kat, KN is creatively bankrupt and has apparently been banned from any royal family press events as revealed during Harry’s NYC trip. This likely includes the BIG one whenever it happens so she is probably hanging onto a big ole bag of sour grapes.
October 10th, 2009 23:31
im on my way back to sleep im think that whatever kate does the queen complement kate
October 10th, 2009 23:36
The DM article is by Kate Nicholls and leaves out important details, for example,
“William, 27, who is training to become a search and rescue pilot, will live in the base’s mess when he transfers to RAF Valley in Anglesey, Wales.”
She never once gave a date for the upcoming transfer.
When is PW moving to Anglesey, Wales?
October 10th, 2009 23:49
Clover,details are not important here, only where Kate sleeps is of concern,lol.
I doubt there is little if any truth to this jumbled mess of an article. I also doubt anyone in possession of facts would actually take the time to discuss the sleeping arrangements of flying officer Wales with the media.
October 11th, 2009 01:12
Lisa,
Exactly!
October 11th, 2009 05:09
here is a short piece from the DM regarding William’s supposed tour next year. Scroll down at the end of the Harry/Chelsy article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219564/Harry-Chelsy-drag-queen–wild-night-porn-star-cocktails.html
If you ever wonder about KN validity, this sums it up..in the following portion, she quotes a CH “source”..
A source at the Prince’s Clarence House office said: ‘William sees it as an honour to be asked to carry out an official duty on behalf of the Queen.
‘He sees himself as stepping up to his role as shadow King. He has put off official visits for long enough and is ready to embrace his duty.’
And then directly following that is this…
A spokesman for Clarence House declined to comment.
She makes herself look totally bogus. LOL.
October 11th, 2009 07:00
Lisa, excellent point about CH “declining to comment.” KN has done that before, if I’m not mistaken. Some “Royal Editor”! Lol. And if she IS banned from RF press events, it’s sort of like having an under-age teenager report on the bar scene.
And, IMO the comment about Kate having to “ask permission” is just a dig to make it look as if Kate will have difficulty seeing William. In other words, the relationship will be in trouble. LOL!! The naysayers were all over this when it was first announced that William was joining the RAF. Sour grapes indeed!
October 11th, 2009 10:16
Katherine,
KN as underage teenager ROFL
October 11th, 2009 13:17
Lisa,
LOL! In other words, KN has no input from CH.
Does anyone know when PW is leaving for Wales/his SAF assignment?
October 11th, 2009 14:03
kat excellent question!
Why would Kate have to ask permission?
William is the officer
Is she implying kate has to ask William’s permission?
October 11th, 2009 14:19
Guys, I wouldn’t pay much attention to that. I highly doubt that Kate has to ask for permission.
They are talking about these official oversea trips again. Nothing has been officially announced about the trips but if true, I wonder if William will introduce Kate on these trips? I think it’s possible and it would be a great idea.
http://tinyurl.com/yk2dqwa
October 11th, 2009 14:30
really?
IMO KN is trying to do a hatchet job on KM as usual anything to make her look bad or sound bad on paper. There is always a snide remark slipped in, but KN made her bed so she will have to lie in it.
October 11th, 2009 14:37
really? The middletons IMO had no choice. Had they maintained contact with UG it risked Kate’s relationship with William even after he went to rehab, especially since IMO many who go to rehab still relapse….
October 11th, 2009 14:44
I just wonder how many more years we will have to put up with these stupid articles and the constant internet bashing before something is announced.
If this trip to OZ as they call it is true, you can bet Kate will be no where near it unless they are married or engaged.
October 11th, 2009 15:09
Well I would hope that if these trips are true, something would be announced so she can go. It’s time for her to introduced to the public in a proper way. The trips would provide the perfect opportunity for the Commonwealth to get to know her personally. I just can’t wait to see what next year will bring for us.
Lisa although I believe the royal couple don’t pay much attention to these articals, the articals has been a bad influence to members of the public. I hope something is announced during the upcoming year.
October 11th, 2009 15:19
jj, Rman, Lisa, and all,
KN might have had a little creative use of words here. She definitely chose her words for effect. She could have said that William and Kate might have a hard getting together at the new base, You all are correct. Appearances cqn be deceiving and so are words.
So we must all hold tight Sooner or later we will know pretty much of what is happening to William and Kate, I am keeping my fingers crossed for them,
October 11th, 2009 16:05
Lisa, Rman, Kate,
Yes, yes, and yes to the internet bashing that will continue until an official annoucement is made. The long and short of it is that until an official announcement is made no one really knows what Kate and PW are going to do with thier lives, KN will continue to do whatever it is she does, and the internet conflict will continue.
Let us hope something happens soon!
October 11th, 2009 17:06
Clover,
I doln’t understand the bashing of Kate. I understand that KN wants tol write something. It would seem to me that she would be extra careful to print the whole truth. It might just help her reputation. Kate bashers need to leave William and Kate alone to make their own way in the world. I understand that Kate could become Queen one day. Until she is tested as a royal no one knows what she will do. It is up to people to give her the benefit of the doubt. They just might need each other one day.
October 11th, 2009 17:31
The Queen and Courtiers most likely do pay attention to these ladies the Princes date prior to a engagement. In this day and age, waiting until after an engagement is announced to see a person’s potential is too late.
From Ked’s post it does not sound as if the Queen has fully been sold on Kate to this point. This is just based on what ked has stated earlier.
The good thing is William will be the final say in the matter.
It would be good if he announced, because then the press and the world would know her status is as a Royal wife, not as just his girlfriend, anymore.
October 11th, 2009 17:42
royal fan, I seriously doubt any posters know whether the Queen is “sold” on Kate as William’s wife. Everyone has an opinion but that is all is it. Opinions and pub rumors. You are correct,however, William has the final say on who his wife will be. He is over 25 and he does not require the approval of the Queen to marry. In all honestly,I doubt that unless Kate had some major issues that we don’t know about, HM would not give her approval. William is an adult and a future King. Frankly he holds ALL the cards in this game because, when push comes to shove, HM will have to give her consent whether she is a Kate fan or not. Does anybody REALLY think the Queen approved of Charles marrying Camilla? I don’t think so. When William and Kate are ready to marry,they will inform HM and PP and ask for permission and it will be granted. All the internet silliness about why Kate has not been pictured with the Queen is all BS.
October 11th, 2009 18:24
^ Lisa, AMEN!
IMO, it’s ironic to focus on Kate not being seen or photographed with the Queen when we all know that this young woman has had unprecedented access to the RF. No other g/f of a royal has been included “in the fold” as much as Kate has been. AND, let’s not forget that the whole Middleton family was invited to William’s graduation from Sandhurst — another first.
October 11th, 2009 19:21
No question that William’s actions are speaking for him but I would like to hear his words for a change.
October 11th, 2009 19:33
I agree Lisa and I believe we WILL hear them one of these days.
Given the circumstances surrounding his parents’ marriage and his mother’s death, I think William is simply determined to do things his way and no one will change that. And if we factor that in, who can blame him…
October 11th, 2009 19:36
There is a new article in one of the tabs(Daily express,I think) about William getting his full wings soon. Another ceremony soon maybe.
October 11th, 2009 19:42
Thanks for the tip, Lisa. Another ceremony indeed.
Here’s the link in case anyone else is interested…
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/133430/William-wins-his-wings-
October 11th, 2009 22:10
@Clover, post #63:
According to the MoD, William is going to RAF Valley in Anglesey, Wales in January. I don’t know whether he’s going to RAF Valley before or after his official Royal Duty 1 week trip to Australia, but January is when he goes to Wales.
According to the MoD, William will train at RAF Valley for 6 months until June, and then he’s supposed to graduate from his training.
After that he has the choice of either beginning his Operational Tour directly after the June graduation in 2010, or he can wait for a few months and start the Operational Tour in January 2011.
October 11th, 2009 22:22
Thanks for the information,Mapleleaf. It seems to me that if William wants to marry,the window between his graduation and the start of his operational duties would be logical. It will be interesting to see what he does.
October 11th, 2009 22:25
I did read the Express article about William and getting his full wings. I doln’t know if the author was trying tol give us a hint or inject humor when he said that RF would be sitting around the table celebraWilliam’s nol not just yet referring to the engagement but saying it in relation to William getting full wings. It sounds like it is coming. Wishful thinking?
October 11th, 2009 22:38
Mapleleaf,
Thanks! That really helps put a few things in perspective.
October 11th, 2009 22:42
kat,considering our current choices,I say bring on the wishful thinking!
October 12th, 2009 01:14
i woke up today because im starving i think wills is taking it slow about their relationship but why is they are doing overseas
October 12th, 2009 03:13
Today would be a good day for an announcement, it would hide all the news re our dishonest politicians and their financial claims.
October 12th, 2009 08:21
Redlady I very much doubt anything will come until at least February/March next year but it is nice for you to pop up every now and again with thoughts that it might be so…
October 12th, 2009 09:15
As Mapleleaf pointed out last evening,William’s training schedule ends in June so any next year would likely occur after he graduates. It is possible that an announcement could come late this year but more then likely jan or feb if it is to be.
October 12th, 2009 09:22
It’s going to come guys, we just have to sit tight for it. I’m just waiting to see what next year will bring for these two.
Have you all heard Michael Jackson’s song “This Is It”?
http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/326415
That man truly had a gift and I’m still sad it’s gone.
October 12th, 2009 13:59
JJ ,post# 67. What kind of family drops a close relative because of a relationship, the future of which is unknown?At this point Kate is not engaged or betrothed to William.Is this going to happen?Only God knows.
If indeed It is a matter of when not If for this couple ,then William and his advisers are doing a very poor job about Kate.
The public is being sold Kate as a companion for William at mostly “play”(shooting ,clubing,vacations) ,WHEN William has FREE.Then William is back to what he does seriously(royal duties,RAF).
Where are photos of Kate doing anything on her own to show that she is not just waiting for the ring?Where is the evidence that Kate is being prepared for royal duties?Or Wiliam and Kate as a couple doing anything that can be termed as serious?
Why,f.eks was there was not one photo of William and Kate alone in the recent charity event?Who would have known this two are even together?They seemed like two people who had been invited to the same event and who did not even know each other.
And as we wait then Kate and her family continue to be dragged through the mud.
If I was Kate I would not be practising that wave just yet .
And personnally after waiting for the “announcement” in vain,I can only conclude that William is not ready to marry yet ;he knows this ,the royal family knows and It has not been conclusively decided that Kate is the one.
Ked ,you seem to have been right after all.(You know about 2014).
October 12th, 2009 14:33
I completely agree with everything you just said Sall.
And I also thought it was very strange that there were no pictures of KM and PW together at the Starlight Event. I’m sure that people on the forum will find a positive reason for it, such as that they are trying to limit speculation, and that they went to the club as one big happy family together afterward, and that all signs are still pointing to an engagement.
But it does seem as though PW doesn’t take the relationship completely seriously as though he is just living in the moment, living the normal existence he seems to yearn for, undecided himself about his future. I think the RF wants him to have the chance to experience some normal things to as he has with Kate and may bite their tongue at times while wondering, dare I say, even hoping at times, that he is going through a phase.
October 12th, 2009 15:55
Sall and Jayhawk,
Good posts! Very insightful!
October 12th, 2009 15:59
Sall & Jawhawk, the one thing I don’t think anyone can deny is the love between William & Kate. The reason why I say this is because they both have enough pressure on them that could easily ruin any relationship. You really have to possess a deep love for another person to go through what this couple goes through.
We just have to wait and see how things will unfold during the upcoming year. This couple have been dating for a great number of years now and an engagement can’t be be that far away. This couple don’t seem to pay much attention to what people think of them, they are running this relationship in a very private manner and it seem like the royals respect that.
Kate has had plenty of time to adjust to royal life and I believe something is going on behind the scenes to bring her to the forefront and for her to take a place by his side. Things may be running a little slow for us but it will come to a full circle soon.
October 12th, 2009 16:03
Re: post #92: No, they aren’t really. They are simply rehashing the same old innuendo. There were in fact extremely few photos of the Starlight event. No conclusions can be drawn except what is already known: all the Middletons, PW, and some of their mutual friends attended. Drawing conclusions as to the state of PW’s and KM’s relationship based on what few pictures there were is ridiculous.
October 12th, 2009 16:28
Judy Wade did mention in her Hello! artical that William & Kate arrived together for the event and left together. Kate was picture smiling at William while he talked to the little girl who’s dream was made into a reality.
We did get some information that Kate is involved with a serious cause (Starlight) and the work she do is mostly done behind the scenes. William was there to support Kate, her family and the cause. I don’t understand why many are deciding to overlook that.
October 12th, 2009 17:43
Phoebe and Rman, you’ve made very valid points. I get SOOO tired of incorrect or mistaken information. I feel that people just don’t take the time to research things before they speak about them, and they end up getting it wrong because of that.
Below are scans of the Hello article in it’s entirety and a reprint of my comments that I originally posted on a different site.
The first two scans are a two-page spread that I had to split up. You can completely see William’s arm in the second scan, but it’s cut off in the first scan because the photo is split in half.
Click each picture to enlarge it and read the text:
http://tinyurl.com/ydxo6lf
http://tinyurl.com/ycffv6w
http://tinyurl.com/ya57ark
http://tinyurl.com/yd2g3cy:
Article recap:
Hello magazine says that Kate got involved with the charity party held on 26 September because Rose van Cutsem and Maggie Bolger, who were the head organisers for the event, specifically asked Kate to work on the 14 member committee with them.
The article also says that Kate hosted a table for 10 at the event, while her father Michael and brother James hosted a table for 8; and that Kate secretly joined the 14 member committee that organised the Starlight to “add her weight to organising the exhibition of the works and the dinner and the auction in the evening.”
Rose vC and Maggie Bolger are the owners of the children’s event planning company ‘Maggie and Rose’. The ‘Maggie and Rose’ and ‘Party Pieces’ companies worked together to provide what was needed for the party.
Hello quoted Rose Van Cutsem as saying: “Kate popped in to the afternoon event at the gallery [when the children's paintings were on display], which was a sort of fete with Indian teepees in the garden and refreshments such as milkshake cocktails and jam tart canapés for the children. The Middleton family firm Party Pieces provided us with lots of bunting and other decorations.”
The party raised £120,000, and Wills said in a directly quoted comment: “Its great so much money has been made for such a worthwhile cause.” The article says Wills and Kate arrived together, they left together, and they didn’t leave the party until midnight, and that they were among the last to leave. It also says Wills and Kate went to club Raffles with Harry and a group of friends after they left the party.
Kate is the person involved with Starlight, not William. Wills was there to support Kate; he met with the little girl because he was asked to do so.
I’d also like to point out that out of all of the pictures of the event, there were only THREE pics taken of Kate, and ONE of Wills, and Kate was in the one pic of Wills with the little girl.
There was no statement quoted in the press by anyone connected with the event that said William didn’t sit at Kate’s table, and there was no statement quoted in the press by anyone connected with the event that said William and Kate weren’t together at the party.
The idea that they didn’t sit together at the event did not come from any of the known facts. There were members of the press present at the Starlight party, it was a charity event to raise money and Starlight wanted the press to be there so that they could get more recognition with the public .
Hello mag has the same story as every other news outlet about William’s attendance at that party, and the Hello article says that William specifically attended the party to support Kate and the Middleton family.
That shows William takes their relationship seriously enough to attend a high profile event for charity in support of Kate and her family’s efforts.
October 12th, 2009 17:49
The sentence about Kate attending the afternoon event intrigued me and made me wonder whether or not everything that Kate Middleton and Party Pieces does for charity has been mentioned in the press.
Thanks to dagsi here on BRW, I found out that it was NOT all reported.
Here are some links that dagsi gave us:
http://www.starlight.org.uk/menu_pages/News_details.asp?id=258
http://www.starlight.org.uk/menu_pages/News_details.asp?id=266
http://www.starlight.org.uk/documents/StarlightPartyApplicationForm.pdf
http://www.partypieces.co.uk/cm/charity.htm
The above links detail Kate and Party Pieces’ involvement with the Starlight Foundation. I hope it puts to rest some of the mis-information that is floating around, especially the constantly incorrect information floating around at RT.
They can never manage to get their facts straight at that site, they always either get it wrong or confused.
October 12th, 2009 17:58
The sentence about Kate attending the afternoon event intrigued me and made me wonder whether or not everything that Kate Middleton and Party Pieces does for charity has been mentioned in the press.
Thanks to dagsi here on BRW, I found out that it was NOT all reported.
Here are the links that dagsi originally gave us, and one I added:
http://tinyurl.com/yh3bgox
http://tinyurl.com/yjlf2lp
http://tinyurl.com/yhmojto
http://tinyurl.com/4wktrp
The above links detail Kate and Party Pieces’ involvement with the Starlight Foundation. I hope it puts to rest some of the mis-information that is floating around, especially the constantly incorrect information floating around at RT.
They can never manage to get their facts straight over there, they always either get it wrong or confused.
October 12th, 2009 18:02
Great post, Mapleleaf. Thank you.
The Starlight event wasn’t about William and Kate or their relationship; it was about the charity. That message came across loud and clear and it was quite appropriate. Theirs was a mature, united front and, dare I say with a wink and a nod to the future, a “professional” one. Besides, if we did get the photos some people feel are lacking, the same individuals would accuse Kate (and her family!) of using her royal connections.
October 12th, 2009 18:05
ML, lol, why let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh?
October 12th, 2009 18:09
Phoebe,you are right.One cannot draw conclusions about the relationship based on a few pictures.But this is the RF we are talking about.Image is everything and especially If we are talking about the future queen.
KM is normally photographed with PW when they are out clubbing,shooting, polo matches( and for that matter waiting for him in his car) or coming from vacations.She is also normally shown with a wide grin on her face.At this time you also read that PW is on a break from RAF and what coming royal duties he is going to be perfoming next.
The only time PW seems to be comfortable being photographed alone with KM is at night coming from clubs or kissing in the middle of the night at the carpark,or coming from vacations.Is this deliberate?(It makes me angry just thinking about It).
My question :If we can be shown photos of PW at work and at play,why not his supposedly future wife?Surely Kate has another life apart from waiting for PW to get free.Where is her life going to work ,going out with her friends even going to say the gym?Is this not better than being portrayed as somebody who only lives for the prince?Doesn`t it reek of desperation?A partying,desperate future queen.
About the Starlight Charity event:If ever there was an opportunity for William to show his solidarity and support for Kate then this was it.Instead it seemed as if they didnot know even know each other . Either they didnot go near each other the whole evening (which personally I don`t believe) or somebody did not want William and Kate portrayed as a couple at the charity event.Why ?
Hence my conclusion:William is nowhere near an engagement and he knows this and so does his family.He plays but is careful how he is portrayed .I wonder whether ,his conscience bothers him when headlines scream“Kate Middleton goes for a second vacation in a month,after PW got an unexpected break from his RAF duties.“Does he ever think about KM`s reputation or it does not matter because she is just his girlfriend.
October 12th, 2009 18:15
I read somewhere that the reason why not many pictures were taken at the charrity event is the ban on taking pictures olf William and Kate together. It was also mentioned that it woluld have been nice for William and Kate to arrange to have some pictures of them for PR purposes. Have most of the pictures that have been taken lately been taken by foreign reporters? It seems to me that William and Kate would not have come and left together unless they were serious about each other. Knowing the event would be covered by the media, if their relationship were casual I would have thought that William would have just not come.
I do have to tell myself that these are twol real people that are being talked about. They are in a relationship that is answerable to themselves alone. It will be great for us when an anouncement is made. However as was mentioned many times patience is needed. It will be great when we have some answers to our questions. Until then I will enjoying reading and posting on this website.
October 12th, 2009 18:22
Mapleleaf,
You have excellent research skills. I hate to see you apply them to this situation, apply them to graduate studies or something, that is meant as a compliment!
The one thing that will speak louder than photos, Hello magazine articles, KN at the DM, rumors, and speculation will be an official engagement announcement.
Let us hope something official comes down the pipeline soon!
October 12th, 2009 18:37
Clover,
I don’t think that you’ll have any disagreement here. I would like to second that.
October 12th, 2009 18:45
Sall I hear what you are saying but lets not forget that when Kate was out with her friends, doing a little shopping and or even hitting a club the girl was horribly hounded by the street paps. That life became too unbearable for her and it also became very dangerous. Her lawyer stepped in and now she can do some things in peace.
We did get a picture of William & Kate together at the charity event but they made to press focus more on the charity and not them. We all got the 411 on how William attended the event to support Kate and her family. The event was not about them and I’m for one am glad that they didn’t hog the spotlight.
It’s important for us to pay attention to the facts so we don’t become confused.
We all know that Kate is a very important woman in his life and he made that statement when she stood with his family at the Order of the Garter ceremony. The engagement will come, lets just be patient about it.
October 12th, 2009 19:40
I think what people have to realize is that PW and KM are conducting their relationship according to their own desires and wants. They see no need to get married when people say they must, or to behave in ways which people say they ought. This is what drives the tabs crazy. They have been used to being ringside in the tawdry goings-on in Charles v. Diana v. Camilla, and Fergie v. Everybody, that when PW and KM thumb their noses at them, they wet their pants. PW and KM do not, I repeat, do not care what anyone, I repeat anyone, thinks of how they conduct their relationship. That’s why I wouldn’t hold my breath for any “engagement interview” when and if an engagement comes about.
And it’s KM who has delayed the engagement, by telling PW, no thanks. IMO, of course.
October 12th, 2009 20:15
I just cheked Amazon for the book by Robin Nunn William and Kate Celebrating a Royal Romance, The date given the release of the book is March 1, 2011. If true that would mean a late 2011 or early 2012 wedding. That is if the date coincides with the engagement. I think that someone might be telling us that we have a while to wait.
October 12th, 2009 20:41
Fingers crossed that book release date is a guess by Amazon; but it does make sense- 2010 for British elections; 2011 for wedding frenzy and 2012 for the Olympics and QE anniversary
October 12th, 2009 21:26
I don’t know, I have a feeling that Robin Nunn is just guessing. I think everyone is just guessing at this point and the several dates the media have mentioned let us all know that we ALL just have to wait and see.
All I can say, I hope that we get a chance to see Kate a little more next year. Putting Kate by William’s side a bit more will make the message clear that in 2011 she will officially become his wife. If 2011 is the year.
October 12th, 2009 22:48
my guess is they will pencil in that date but William won’t be ready yet.
He has his life planned out for him and I get that he wouldn’t want to be going down a path that would be set for him for marriage the one thing he has control over.
My guess is he wont’ be married for sometime
i agree with the writer who said it is William’s choice who he will marry
Oh and i don’t think it is the Queen who has a problem with Kate – word was sometime ago that it was the DofE who had no time for her…
The Queen has a mess of marriages with her children — i doubt she is one for advice : ) or wanting to give it unless aske, she doesn’t strike me as a ‘meddling’ mother.
the DofE on the other hand – well he tells it like he see it –
Rman is right – the tour would be the perfect time
if kate isn’t involved i think a marriage is way off
and remember wills 180 last time at the last minute .. he could do that again at a major time of decision in his life … he may decided to stay on tour for a very long time…
October 12th, 2009 22:49
Yeah,I got the same email. I think they have to put some sort of date on the book or they have to cancel the orders. Obviously this book will not ship until the engagement is announced. May I just say it is going to suck if it doesn’t happen until 2011.
October 12th, 2009 22:49
tour of duty that is
October 12th, 2009 22:53
Too much is being made of this tour that has not even been announced by any royal house. If the couple is not engaged at the time of the tour,Kate will not be part of it. Not officially anyway. No one can stop her from traveling on her own but I would strongly doubt it.
October 12th, 2009 23:43
I agree Lisa and to be honest if the first part of the tour is in January I highly doubt that Kate will have anything to do with it. If anything is going to happen it won’t until February/March next year. That’s if we are lucky. It honestly might not be until the following year so we maybe have to be in for the long haul….
October 13th, 2009 00:35
I just think it’s time to face reailty, we just don’t know when it will happen. We can hope and you all know how much I hope that next year we will get the news. That’s all we can do is hope. Long ago I use to think the media knew what they are talking about but with all the recent dates they have thrown at us, I have come to the conclusion that they really don’t know what’s going on and their guess is just as good as our own.
We just have to sit back and watch the events unfold and pray that these two are happy. I do applaud them for coming this far despite the obsticals. They will let us know when they are ready to let us know.
I think Charles is very proud of his sons because they have a chance to take their time with love and lead from the heart, that’s something he didn’t have.
October 13th, 2009 01:05
Rman,
Good post!
We don’t know what is going to happen. We are fed tons of nonsense in one article after another. No one seems to have a clue about what is going to happen next between PW and KM.
All we can do is wait!
October 13th, 2009 07:26
rman — charles could have led from the heart and choose not too
with charles it wasn never about love
it was all about him
and thankfully for the most part his sons are not like him
not hatin just saying : )
October 13th, 2009 08:32
You know I know William and Kate are on their own time schedule but I do feel that this is a missed opportunity to really brand them together as a couple if they were engaged and Kate were to go with William and to get Australia and New Zealand behind William who is the future of the monarchy. But what do I know…
October 13th, 2009 08:54
jj, it is very frustrating when you go through this long with this silence. William and Kate are in private mode right now and have been since they began. The thing is,once they go into public mode there is no turning back and I think this has much to do with why this phase of their relationship has lasted so long. I think they like the life they have and are reluctant to give it up.
October 13th, 2009 09:28
Lisa, sigh……
October 13th, 2009 09:48
I hear jj…and to add to my thoughts/speculation..I never bought the deal about Kate living at home. While she may spend some time at home,my money is on her spending most of her time with William(didn’t KN refer to a “farmhouse”?) I think they have their time together, they ignore all the media crap, take their holidays and probably will worry about getting married when it is time to “secure the monarchy”, whatever that means,LOL. I am still praying for 2010 but not holding my breath. These two have it too good. JMO.
October 13th, 2009 10:46
Good Morning All,
really? Charles’s love life is complicated. Lets not forget that he had his great uncle Dickie messing with his head a lot so that really was a very complicated situation.
JJ I hear you. That’s why I said that we just have to wait and see. We really don’t know what these two have up their sleeve. I think they know that their own silence has created some confusion and got everyone on the edge of their seats.
Maybe the team at SJP have a plan to bring her to the forefront next year, we just have to wait and see.
October 13th, 2009 12:22
I agree Lisa. KM & PW have a great life right now -privacy. Once they make that announcement – it is over with. They will never have a quiet moment again – their lives will be forever changed. I believe they have a charmed life right now.
October 13th, 2009 12:37
kd, not only is their charmed life over with but Kate becomes the nations first high profile “princess” since Diana. not something I would be looking forward to. In a way,I feel empathy for this couple. They have basically enjoyed a normal courtship considering the circumstances and I am sure they would love nothing more then to take their vows in a small church if front of family and friends in a intimate ceremony celebrating their marriage instead of in front of millions and millions of strangers watching on TV and in the streets. I have always said they should get married twice. Once privately and once for the public. I wonder if they could?
Have a great day guys
October 13th, 2009 13:12
Quick word,
Kd & Lisa I agree with you all but I think if they walk down that isle next year, they still will have their privacy. William is still in training and they most likely won’t be doing a full year of engagements because of the training. I’m sure behind the scenes they are working some things out.
October 13th, 2009 19:16
As much as most of us are waiting/hoping for an official announcement, I’m beginning to think it will take us all by surprise. One day, they’ll just announce it and that will be it. Meanwhile, they can keep us speculating about why they “can’t” marry in a particular year/season.
October 14th, 2009 04:47
i think wills and kate getting along with their relationship their are not rushing to be engage