Royal News Links
Sparkly gold Princess Beatrice out with boyfriend Dave Clark – Daily Mail
Last night the Queen’s granddaughter played the chauffeur as she drove her boyfriend Dave Clark around London. She carefully did up her seatbelt before her 27-year-old boyfriend, a university friend of her cousin Prince William, slid into the passenger seat…
Zara Phillips hits Melbourne’s clubs – Monsters & Critics
Britain’s Zara Phillips stunned fans by going clubbing in Melbourne. An onlooker said: “Zara managed to avoid being photographed in the club and looked like she really enjoyed herself. She turned up with a few pals and spent the evening mingling with the celebrity crowd.”…
Camilla steps into fashionable shoes – The Star
Image makeover takes her from dowdy to designer – The Duchess of Cornwall is on her first official tour of Canada, alongside her husband Prince Charles. They’ve landed in Toronto and will open the Royal Agricultural Winter Fair Friday…
Photos: Prince Charles and Duchess of Cornwall visit Canada – Getty Images
November 6th, 2009 19:06
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/royalvisit/article/722000–dimanno-as-royals-tour-a-rottweiler-reminder
i thought the reference to the balcony scene was uncanny, i didn’t like seeing the photo of them doing that and i guess as the writer explains it. that is probably why
November 6th, 2009 20:36
Thank you really?
I rather enjoyed that. The past is the past, yes, but it should not be forgotten. There’s a lot more to this couple than a woman who made a prince happy. At what price??? 
November 6th, 2009 23:04
mapleleaf – you ROCK – thanks for the detail info.
November 7th, 2009 04:40
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/royalvisit/article/721423–royal-couple-fail-to-dazzle-like-diana
update
i really want this article
November 7th, 2009 06:24
Thanks, bluefire. Bravo to them for being honest and saying it like it is.
November 7th, 2009 12:22
Hello,
Just returned from England v Australia. England lost !!!??? Bo ho
November 7th, 2009 12:24
ked,did you see Harry and Chelsy?
November 7th, 2009 12:25
Hello, (continued)
Talking point > Where is PW ?
Ideas anyone>
November 7th, 2009 12:27
William is supposed to be at Rugby today,ked. Wales,I think..
November 7th, 2009 12:31
Match is in cardiff so I guess thats where William is..
November 7th, 2009 12:51
Ked,
What have you heard about William. He was supposed to be at the game however there is not a word being said about him. There are pictures and an article about Harry and Chelsy
being there. Article is in the DM. Are you hearing anything ? I guess you did not see him.
November 7th, 2009 12:54
Kat,Harry and Chelsy were at at different game. The one William is attending is in Wales.
November 7th, 2009 12:58
I just read again that William is supposed to be at the Wales New Zealand match. Is that at a different place that the match attended by Harry and Chelsy?
November 7th, 2009 12:59
Thanks for the info. I was too slow to find that out.
November 7th, 2009 13:02
The match William is at is going on now so maybe some pictures soon.
November 7th, 2009 13:06
Hello,
Thanks. He is at Cardiff but was supposedly due at Twickenham.
Difficult ?
November 7th, 2009 13:23
Photos of William at match are on BelgaPictures.
November 7th, 2009 13:47
Why oh why are Harry and Chelsey allowed to appear together at a rugby match while William and Kate aren’t?. Just because William is there “officially.” Not fair.
November 7th, 2009 14:34
@ginger, re: post #3: Thank you so much!
Regarding Wills: it’s been on the diary entry of the Prince of Wales.gov website for the last 4 days that Wills would be in Cardiff at the Millenium stadium today for the Wales v. NZ match; I don’t think Wills was ever due to be in Twickenham today:
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/diary/saturday_7th_november_2009_1004898705.html
November 7th, 2009 14:45
@
sojourner and lisa and ginger: thanks very much for your kind words! And sojourner, thanks for the great ‘titles’ you gave all of us.
November 7th, 2009 16:25
Meg
I will second that! It seems that it would be a good thing for them to appear together. I suppose that it will take an engagement for that to happen. I guess I do not understand British protocol. It would be nice to see Kate along with William talking to the people who came back from the war. It would be nice to see them out and about in different settings. I just enjoy seeing them together.
November 7th, 2009 16:36
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=prince%20harry
November 7th, 2009 18:19
Since Kate was not at the game with William, does anybody think things are not well with them? Maybe that’s way she was shielding her face in the pictures.
November 7th, 2009 18:33
A defense of Prince Charles…
I am not surprised that PCs reception is not that of a rock star. He is a 60ish man, rather well dressed, but not a media personality. He is more substance than style.
So Prince Charles has a less than stellar reputation with women. This he might share with Fmr. US President Clinton, and I suspect the later would receive a much warmer welcome. Taking the gender-challenged nature of each aside, the basis to judge both men is on their accomplishments. Clinton was a powerful president, and well-liked for his policies. However, PC also has significant accomplishments, many more than what his official title would have required. He has been in many, many ways a leader for positive change.
Of course, I understand that to some Canadians, the whole relationship with the UK, and how this is symbolized by the RF visit, might be less than thrilling. Again, not related to the man.
And to insist on demeaning the Duchess of Cornwall because of her looks is just sexist, which puts the critic in the gender-challenged camp themselves.
November 7th, 2009 18:41
About PW and KM, PW and CD
PWs pictures suggest he went in an official capacity… Suit, tie, impecable grooming (did look very handsome!)
PH, on the other hand… Looking cute, but utterly un-official.
Thus one has girlfriend, and one does not.
November 7th, 2009 18:42
my comments above refer to the rugby matches, of course.
belga pictures has images of PW, as Mathilde suggested
November 7th, 2009 18:44
Prince William has been the Vice Patron of the WRU and the President of the FA since 2005.
Not once, in all of the time William has been Vice Patron and President of those two organisations, has Kate Middleton ever been present at one of the games when William was there in an official capacity.
As Kate Middleton has never been present at any other football match when William was there in an official capacity, it’s not likely she would’ve been at this game in Wales either.
But Wills and Kate have been at football matches together when Wills was not there as an official of the WRU or the FA.
Here are a couple of pics of them at a football match in 2007:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/73284307/AFP
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/73284285/AFP
November 7th, 2009 18:49
Good Night All,
I’m pretty busy these days but I did come across a preview of the documentary that will aire after Charles & Camilla leave Canada. It’s called: After Elizabeth 11- Monarchy in Peril.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCve9Dyg7no
Things do appear shakey but hopefully we will see William taking a wife and more duties soon. The young royals are the ones that will have to re-assure the people of Britain and the Commonwealth that there will be a strong Monarchy after the Queen.
Nice to see the pictures of Harry & Chelsy and it seems like they ejoyed the game together.
n02va15, William was on a official engagement and that’s why Kate wasn’t there. If it was just a regular outing to a match you would see Kate there. The reason why we saw Harry & Chelsy at a game together is because it was just a regular outing for the couple. It wasn’t an official engagement for Harry.
November 7th, 2009 18:52
Sojourner, I’m sorry I forgot to mention that my post wasn’t in response to your posts, it was actually a response to n02va15 @ post #23.
November 7th, 2009 19:04
The cover of the documentary DVD:
http://tinyurl.com/y99y9wn
November 7th, 2009 19:55
Does anyone know who the cutie is between PH and CD?
November 7th, 2009 20:04
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/107305/Kate-is-doing-a-runner-/
This is the latest article about Kate.
November 7th, 2009 20:09
AGAIN with this story! What is up with these people?
November 7th, 2009 21:22
Phoebe,
Right! Kate moving to NYC to study with a photographer is a story that has been in circulation for years and years!
November 7th, 2009 22:24
Re: KM in NYC
You know the story is fake when
1. They quote a palace aide… the same palace that “never comments on the Princes private lives”
2. KM would take “any job.” She hasn’t thus far, and somehow I don’t think the recession has hit the Middleton’s that badly yet
November 7th, 2009 23:34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1225935/Prince-Harry-rekindles-romance-Chelsy-Davy-date-rugby.html
update about harry and chelsy in match
November 8th, 2009 00:11
Kate at Sandringham,Kate in New york…blah blah blah…soon we will have the bookies posting the odds for the Christmas engagement followed by the engagement on her birthday….I am to the point where if the story is not reported by the Press Association or other reputable paper, I pay it no mind.
November 8th, 2009 01:05
http://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/editorial/all/quick-search.html?page=1
November 8th, 2009 07:19
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226101/Queen-leads-Remembrance-Day-ceremony-year-World-War-I-veterans.html
November 8th, 2009 08:21
Lisa, I know what you mean. I hope when the time does come, it will be a total suprise so that none of these journalists/forecasters can take credit for having known. Lol. Personally, I don’t care–I just want them to DO IT already! Lol.
November 8th, 2009 08:24
Bluefire, this may or may not come as a surprise
but I’m not jumping for joy that Chelsy is back in his life. I honestly think he can do so much better.
November 8th, 2009 08:46
interesting with Kate. I wonder if she has said that to put people off what she really plans to do once she finishes with party pieces this year.
I think those rugby pictures are so sweet of Harry and Chelsy. What I like about Harry is he doesn’t have hugely unrealistic expectations about the media and how they will treat his relationship. He tries to keep stuff out but he doesn’t keep people out of his life just because they can’t be controlled by him. And i think that takes much more bravery then expecting everyone to be mum and then cutting out everyone till you are left with just each other almost.
I would say they are most definitely on.
While william is in official capacity it is interesting to note that there have been little in the way of photos together of him and Kate and now this story about NYC again, does she tell him that she is moving on and then he convinces her to stay.
I agree she will go very unnoticed in NYC and for that it is a good choice.
PS thanks Katherine! I agree with you.
November 8th, 2009 08:49
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/royalvisit/article/721423–royal-couple-fail-to-dazzle-like-diana
if He was with Diana today they would have had a WHOPPING reception…
His big loss
November 8th, 2009 09:23
Really? , AMEN! BIG loss…
November 8th, 2009 10:17
Good Morning All,
It’s good to see Harry having a chance to pay tribute to the fallen veterns.
I came across this artical in the Sunday Express on Kate and I found this to be really interesting.
http://tinyurl.com/yc2sohx
Many people saw Kate with her hand in her face at the airport and think she can’t handle the pressure of becoming a royal but I personally think she can handle it. I think Kate is now getting to the point where she wants to handle it but in a proper way.
She did shine at the charity event for Starlight but I think she has earned the right to be at William’s side, not just occasionally but permanently. She just need the chance to show the people of Britain and Commonwealth what she will bring to the royal table. She can’t do this on the sidelines.
I do agree with this artical to some degree, something has to give here. They have had enough time to play around and now it’s time to get serious.
November 8th, 2009 11:48
Rman,I agree with your sentiments completely. The longer the press has at Kate before their marriage,the worse things get and this press agreement,which I think is based on a carrot and stick method, is not doing them any good at all.
November 8th, 2009 12:15
Sigh
Well we have all said the same things over and over again, something has to change and soon. If she smiles she is courting the media and asking for the harassment she gets. If she blocks their path when surrounded then she can’t handle the pressure.
The bigger problem here is the situation has been stagnant for too long. I know they are on their own time scale and blah blah blah but they are not doing themselves any favors IMO.
The wings ceremony and Garter ceremony should have been the prelude to an engagement and marriage. It looked at the time like part of a carefully orchestrated plan which amounted to nothing. The public are getting tired of nothing happening one way or another I understand that that is not a reason to get engaged but like the article says Charles is unpopular that is fact and William and his wife are the future of the monarchy so they have to start cultivating it now before it is too late..
If nothing happens next year I fear for this relationship.. Sorry but i do..
November 8th, 2009 12:27
Rman,
I agree time to move forward, enough fun and games.
Lisa and JJ,
I agree.
Here is another example of problems with the media for Kate and her mother.
http://www.britishroyals.info/?p=351
November 8th, 2009 12:44
This plan of staying low is just not working. The media and people are pretty much getting tired of the long wait and I do hope that the royal team and the couple are sitting down, getting serious and coming to some decision to take the next step.
Kate seems to be a very strong person and have been dealing with the situation the best way she knows how but after all these years, she has remained stuck in the same position. Something has to give here and I do hope that next year something good happens for this couple.
November 8th, 2009 13:26
I found the DE article very interesting. In many ways,the article suggest that the RF is controlling Kate’s press as they would a family member. Clearly they take her future position seriously and this press agreement,whether some want to believe it or not, is proof of that fact. No way on this planet would the RF use their lawyers to hammer out a press agreement for some girlfriend who had no future in the firm. Clearly Kate does. Why it is taking so long to formalize this thing is anybody’s guess, but one thing you can take to the bank at this point is that Kate Middleton is not going anywhere soon but hopefully to the asile of St Pauls.
November 8th, 2009 13:30
I agree Lisa.
November 8th, 2009 14:05
thanks for the link, clover…
It’s my first time to see a pic of Carole Middleton covering her face. These pictures are new, if I’m not mistaken…
November 8th, 2009 14:23
It does seem unusual for them to cover their faces with their hands when just weeks ago at the Starlight Foundation event they seemed happy with the press and smiled for the cameras.
November 8th, 2009 14:34
jj, excellent points.
Charles spent his 20’s establishing himself as PoW and, although several eligible ladies were discussed as potential brides, the matter was almost secondary to his “career”. William, on the other hand, met the right lady early on, but he had yet to establish himself in his royal role. Perhaps he met Kate earlier than the RF would have wanted.
The royals (Charles in particular) know what they will be up against when Kate joins the family officially and they’re trying to hold off AND come to terms with it all at the same time. This, I’m afraid, is an impossible task. It is what it is and they cannot control or diminish the inevitable popularity of William and Kate.
And there are several reasons for this; the most obvious being their youth However, there’s a far more significant reason, IMO. Many people lost respect for Charles and his current wife because of the role they played in causing Diana so much misery. He may have had the means with which to make things go his way, but in the end, I honestly believe that people hope the bridge between the Queen’s reign and William’s will not be a very long one. That is and will continue to be the reality Clarence House is forced to reckon with. IMO, the Queen is well aware of this and she will want Kate beside her on that balcony as she waves to her subjects during the Diamond Jubilee celebrations in 2012.
For the long-term sake of the monarchy, I believe the emphasis should start to shift to William. IMO, it would be a mistake to confuse tolerance of “what is,” with genuine respect and/or affection.
November 8th, 2009 15:15
Katharine all I know is the longer this goes on the worst things will get.
I don’t what the plan is but I hope we will see Kate by his side a little more next year. If they are planning to get married in 2011 then that’s fine but bring this girl from the sidelines and let people see that she will be a good consort for William. I think this will make things much more easier.
I know this is a different couple but Sophie was seen at Edward’s side during their courtship and she didn’t have to suffer like Kate has suffered. I think William & Kate should go and talk to the Wessex’s and follow in their footsteps. Because what they are doing now is doing no one any good.
November 8th, 2009 15:35
I used to think that William & Kate should have all of the time that they wanted befolre getting married. The more that I read here, online, and other forums something has to give. I agree with Mapleleaf that status quo is not a bad thing, However, when the status quo is becoming counterproductive to the county that you will lead, then it is time to make a statement. Whether it is a formal engagement announcement or a bethroval saying we are committed in the future to marrriage something is needed. I think about the fact that they were together on the 31st. That is a statement. I would like him to make it a more formal and joyous time. We are talking about 2 people who love each other.
November 8th, 2009 16:38
Great photos of Remembrance Day!
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/ELjd2amr1rZ/Remembrance+Sunday
November 8th, 2009 16:48
This is starting to have the bad signs of a relationship winding down for a Royal Prince.
There is no way a future Princess would have been allowed by the Palace to flounder like this in the press.
Marriage may never happen, isn’t that what her mother said last year. It may be truth.
November 8th, 2009 17:35
Rman, I’ve often used Edward and Sophie’s longer courtship as a reason not to criticize Willian and Kate, and I stand by that. However, E&S were never going to be in the position that William and Kate find themselves in. The future demands and pressure that await William and his wife cannot be compared to the future that awaited E&S.
Lately, I’ve begun to wonder just how much of this is W&K’s timetable and how much of it originates from Clarence House. Charles put a lot of time, money and manpower into making Camilla his wife and having her “accepted” in that role. I firmly believe that he has no wish to see his son and Kate, as a pretty young princess, overshadow his efforts.
November 8th, 2009 18:07
Katherine I agree with you with the Charles and Camillia and the time and money but I don’t feel as if it is a good enough excuse to use for these two not to be engaged. They could put equally time and money into making it whatever they want it to be.
I stand by my thoughts that if it doesn’t happen next year this couple are going to be in trouble. The quietly quietly isn’t working it is like someone previously mentioned giving the press another stick to beat her with. Change needs to happen and soon otherwise you know what Kate can do better and William will have to live with his choice to do nothing….
November 8th, 2009 18:08
& when I say do better I mean have a happier life out of the whole royal circus..
November 8th, 2009 18:46
JJ I do agree with that. I don’t think Charles & Camilla see William & Kate as some kind of competition. They know that William has to live his own life and support the Monarchy. They won’t stand in his way.
I personally think it’s great that the couple have taken their time with their relationship, nothing is rushed but now it’s getting to the point where something has to be done.
I just hope William’s team is putting together a schedule that will allow the couple to appear in public as a team now.
November 8th, 2009 18:53
Kat I understand what you’re saying and to some extent I feel the exact same way. It would be nice if Wills and Kate made some sort of statement that they were committed to marriage in the future. All of the different stories in the press definitely gets tiring sometimes.
(the following is not directed towards Kat or anyone in particular)
What keeps me on an even keel is a thought that I try to keep uppermost in my mind whenever I’m discussing Wills and Kate: this is William and Kate’s real life.
I keep in mind that no matter what my interest is in their relationship, they are real human beings with thoughts and feelings, and as human beings they’re entitled to handle their lives in their own way.
I may not always agree with their choices, but I respect their right to choose. Even though I want them to move things along faster, logically there’s no reason why Wills and Kate should HAVE to move their relationship along any faster than they want to. It’s their lives, they have to do what feels right for them. If they like keeping their relationship at status quo for a few years, that’s up to them. They have a right to handle their lives as they see fit.
Another fact I keep in mind is that just because I don’t see Wills and Kate doing things out in public, it doesn’t mean things are bad or negative between them. Wills’ presence at the Starlight charity event spoke volumes. He was there to support Kate and her family. Whenever a Royal does something like that, it’s a public statement.
I’d enjoy seeing more public statements like that, but I think both Wills and Kate want to keep speculation to as much of a minimum as they can for as long as they can. I think they are both enjoying their lives as they are. I know many people have made the assumption that Kate is anxious to get married right away, but let’s just assume, for a moment, that she isn’t.
If Kate is not anxious to get married, then the life she’s living right now is absolutely ideal for her. The same goes for Wills.
Right now they have the best of both worlds. Once an engagement is announced, their lives will become more complicated and filled with more responsibilities. Not announcing an engagement gives them both a measure of freedom.
Maybe it even lets them both still feel young. Maybe they want to prolong that ‘we’re young, free and in love’ feeling for as long as they can.
It could be that marriage represents being ‘older and tied down’ to both of them. I’m not saying they don’t want to be with each other, because obviously they do; they’ve been together all of this time, I think they like being together.
I’m saying they may not want to have to carry the ‘institution of marriage’ on their backs just yet. Because make no mistake, for the senior Royals, marriage is definitely an institution. For those of us in the public, marriage is just a further expression of our love for each other.
I’d say it’s that for the Royals too, but it’s much more. Once a senior Royal is married, they receive a Peerage, they take on the responsibilities of being property owners, and they’re responsible for the care and feeding of a lot of staff members. Not to mention paying for their home and utilities, and fulfilling a big roster of Royal duties.
If they were to get married while Wills is still in the RAF that would help them somewhat, but it wouldn’t completely alleviate them having a whole host of new responsibilities. For Wills and Kate, even an engagement announcement means ‘growing up’. The simple fact is they might not want to deal with all of that yet, no matter how much we want them to deal with it right now.
@ anne, post #58:
A newspaper journalist said ‘Marriage may never happen’. The journalist claimed that ‘a friend’ told her (her=the journalist) that Kate Middleton’s mother had said those words, but the journalist never provided any proof and the journalist never gave the name of the ‘friend’ who told the journalist all of that.
The bottom line is that Katie Nicholl, who is the journalist who made the claim, did NOT speak with Carole Middleton, and did NOT provide any validation or proof that Mrs. Middleton actually said such a thing.
I think some people who dislike Kate Middleton deliberately keep repeating that incorrect information. Maybe spreading mis-information makes them feel better about themselves or something, I don’t know.
November 8th, 2009 19:05
jj, I didn’t mean that it’s an “excuse”, nor should it be. I think that William and Harry were permitted, encouraged even, to take things slowly where their royal roles are concerned and the same applies to William’s relationship with Kate.
And Rman, I’m sorry my friend but I can’t agree on the C&C angle here…
I firmly believe that W&K are seen as competition. Just look back at how irritated Charles was almost from the very beginning of his marriage to Diana when the world wanted to meet his bride. A mature, confident man would have been proud to show her off and he would have understood that it was a reflection on him, rather than a shadow over him.
IMO, W&K could easily get married at this point. If he’s still in training, it would be an ideal way for them to start their married life. They could do joint engagements from time to time and she could be eased into the role of a princess slowly while receiving more extensive coaching behind the scenes. There’s no need to wait for him to finish his training as that will only put more pressure on them both to have a f/t diary of engagements.
November 8th, 2009 19:27
Mapleleaf,
No offense taken. I agree with what you are saying. It is up to William and Kate to make their way in the world. If that means that nothing is said for years that is definitely up to them. If there is a marriage or no marriage, it is again up to them. We are outsiders looking in on their facinating relationship. I say that because we get glimpses of them but do not know what is really going on behind the scenes,
I guess I just dislike to see anyone torn down for no reason. So Kate covered her eyes at the airport. In the big scheme of things it is not a big deal. One thing did cross my mind though about Kate going to the US. First it would be the same time that William would go on his trip. I would think that Kate would keep a very low profile as to not take away from his first official trip, Secondly, if you announce that you are coming to the US that would alert our media. In Jan., they would be keeping a watch for any signs of her. So much for her trying to stay out of sight in NY,
Mapleleaf you are one of the people who try to keep things honest and fair. You remind me of a poster, Claudius. He was always my calming voice of reason. You gave me a reality check. Thank you for that. William and Kate are the masters of their future. I will say two things. I hope that they both find happiness. For selfish reasons I hope that it is together, Onelast thing for now, I would rather them find out that they belong together or not before a marriage takes place. Best of luck to them both.
November 8th, 2009 19:29
Does anyone buy this? Go to the last page.
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article6900887.ece
November 8th, 2009 19:31
To all those worried about the facial covering of non-islamic women in England
Did we forget Uncle (S)Gary? How can the Middletons be friendly to a press that went out of their way to cause pain and suffering not only to them, but to a dear family member who IS very much a private citizen? The only reason that expose happened is because of who KM is. What is said about her mother is outrageous, and her siblings do not escape the unwarranted scrutiny either. As Carole herself was once quoted as saying “I have other children” — KMs choices in life are affecting the entire family, and I am not sure that favorably. It is her choice, of course, to remain in such a difficult relationship. We may critique her for it, but her family should be off limits.
In her place, I would feel miserable.
I say it again. Prince William = Pfff
November 8th, 2009 19:58
Hello,
For what it’s worth, I will say that a wedding had never been an option, regardless of what “insiders” have suggested at any one time or another. It’s always been just talk… talk most often perpetuated by those that stood to benefit from the speculation (of an imminent wedding).
To borrow a phrase, just because the majority believes something does not necessarily make it true.
-Karagiosis ♞
November 8th, 2009 19:59
Well Mapleleaf you are right but I just think something has to give here. I can’t help but feel that Kate is growing tired of being in this same position. Over the years she has been through so much with the media, they very often paint her and her family in such a bad light and the whole time she has remained silent. To me she is doing this out of love for William and with respect to the royal insitition but I think it’s time for the royal insitition to meet her half way now.
Although this is just my opinion and will have no effect on the couple, they really have had enough time to have their fun and play their games. Every year they go on vacations, party, play polo and take very little responsibilities. They are entitled to that fun and I don’t blame them for that but it really is getting to the point where they have to start getting serious now. We are seeing some signs of William getting serious with his trips to the Commonwealth next year but I’m hoping that Kate will be seen at William’s side at least alittle more next year.
The media and even many members of the public is getting tired of seeing the samething every year with little progress. If that wasn’t so we wouldn’t see articals like the one I posted. It’s good to take your time and that is what this couple has done but I just think it’s time for the fun and games to come to a close.
William & Kate will still be able to take their vacations every year once they marry, it don’t have to all down hill after they walk out of the cathedral has man and wife. There still will be some polo playing, nights out to dinner and shooting parties on the royal estates. All the other married couples do these things and still carry out their royal engagements.
Like this documentary that will aire soon in Canada:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCve9Dyg7no
the people are now starting to worry about the Monarchy and at this point I really don’t blame them. The young royals have to start making the people believe that things will be okay after the Queen is gone. Charles & Camilla are doing their best but this is really up to the young and all this reluctance is not helping the situation.
I’m not even part of the British nation and I’m kind of scared of the whole thing.
November 8th, 2009 20:20
James Whittaker’s favorite royal was Diana and he fail to understand that we will not most likely get another Diana out of Kate. Diana brought her own unique style to the royal family but Kate will have to bring her own too. For a young lady that did not grow up the privileged society Kate has given us a glimps that she will be a great consort for William. She just needs a chance to show us more of what she can do. Once she do that, I think James will be singing another tune.
Just wait and see James & Karagiosis.
November 8th, 2009 20:21
Well, if a wedding “had never been an option” than PW was very wrong to give KM as prominent a place as he has in the public eye (eg. Sandhurst, Garter, wings). It shows that when it comes to the matter of managing his public life and image he is completely tone deaf.
November 8th, 2009 20:29
James Whittaker’s time has passed. There are no appropriate matches with the proper “breeding” around. Young people of “birth” and/or “breeding” today are raised with a sense of immense privilege but no commensurate sense of duty. The only possible exeption are the children of Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg, and they’re all Catholic.
November 8th, 2009 20:37
Mapleleaf I agree with your post BUT one look at the times article which Phoebe just posted and the problems which come along with their choices are all laid out in one paragraph.
They harass and make fun of her family and are digging for dirt because they have nothing else to write about.
Even though she is working for her family she is not taken seriously and people don’t believe she actually works just appears next to Williams side and waits.
She isn’t an aristrocrat and so on and so forth.
Yes Mapleleaf they are on their own time schedule and no matter what we write they will do as they please however I hope William isn’t in the end forced to give her up because her reputation has been so damaged because of the choice to do nothing…
November 8th, 2009 21:29
Been thinking: going by the article in the Express, with pictures of KM and her mother covering her face (see Clover’s post @ 48), does anyone else find it curious that these pictures were printed? If this “press agreement” ever existed, does it still? Seems like the Middletons hiding their faces from the paps might be a new front in their war with the media. Ref Clover’s post @53.
November 8th, 2009 21:31
JJ there’s no doubt about it that Kate has suffered greatly over the years. What kills me is that a great deal of the harsh criticism she has received is due to the stuff that people made up about her. They make up these crazy rumors and they use that against her.
I’m just hoping that we will at least see some change for the better soon.
November 8th, 2009 21:41
Looks to me like the Express has opted out of this “press agreement”.
November 8th, 2009 22:28
yeah i really like the pictures look like that the pictures are of kate is new how i wish that chelsy back on harry too
November 8th, 2009 22:42
Phoebe,
I agree with you. Something started with the pictures of Carole Middleton and Kate covering their faces with their hands. This is a huge change from just a few weeks ago. The “press agreement” may be off. Why?
The thing I can not shake is from the article you posted in #66 and what you said in #72.
Whittaker is a royal insider, he knows this family better than his own. He has broken royal news that was truthful, he is no Katie Nichols.
So when he wrote, “She might have to get working on her CV, though. “I just don’t think she had the breeding, quite honestly,” says Royal commentator James Whittaker of her chances. “I’m not being snooty, I’m being factual.”
It made me wonder what on earth is going on.
I can not shrug this one off given that it is Whittaker.
It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few months!
November 8th, 2009 23:12
Clover
I thought that Whittaker made those comments years ago? Do we know for sure that he recently repeated those comments???
I have no idea why the agreement if there was one is off. Maybe it was only for a certain period of time? Regardless KM and family need to come up with a new stragety the covering of the faces does not become them..
November 8th, 2009 23:24
jj,
You are right Whittaker made those comments right after Kate and PW had a public breakup. The article posted in #66 published those same comments today as if they were new.
According to the BBC in their article, In quotes: William and Kate, when Prince William and Kate Middleton split and before they got back together Royal commentator James Whittaker commented: “I just don’t think she had the breeding quite honestly and I’m not being snooty I’m being factual.”
I am still wondering why hands are covering faces in so many photos of the Middletons these days when they posed for cameras all these years?
Any ideas?
November 9th, 2009 00:06
Maybe the paps started to ask Kate some very personal questions and it turned her off. Maybe she just didn’t feel like being bothered.
We have seen Kate put her hands up over her face many times before. Chelsy has done this too. She did it the other day when she went out and partied with Beatrice.
To tell you all the truth, I can’t wait for all of this to be over with. We go through this samething every year, it’s like a roller coaster it’s been fun but I’m ready to get off this ride.
November 9th, 2009 00:09
Well,I for one am perplexed by the fact that people on this site and others are still talking about these airport pictures. It is likely that in order to keep the law on their side,both Kate and her family have to show their displeasure with being snapped under certain circumstances. JMO. I still think too much is being made of it.
The quote by snobby Mr Whittaker is just the type of attitude that Diana taught her boys to stay away from. Snobbery at the lowest level. If she marries William, he will be kissing her ***.Hypocrite. Still it was amusing to see all the Kate haters get excited thinking it was a new quote
November 9th, 2009 00:10
Problems with the contact lenses?
Wrong shade of eye make-up?
No make-up at all – gasp-?
Guys – relax. We should not interpret too much into recent snap shots. I am convinced that everything is fine between Kate and William.
November 9th, 2009 00:23
Rman,
LOL! I am also ready to get off the ride.
Lisa,
Come on, you are kidding with your comments!
Right?
Chris,
LOL!
November 9th, 2009 00:26
Lisa
The subject topic is possibly because of the lack of news. It’s winter and the royals have retreated to the country houses so not much is going on at all until the Christmas parties begin. When is Harry and Chelsy’s joint christmas party supposed to take place?
Rman you are right Chelsy has numerous times shielded her face from the paps.
What I also find interesting is that I understand that Charlene had an olympic “career” but that is now over and she just follows Prince Albert around. She is never critized for being a waity type woman. She has a lot more to loose than Kate in my opinion because she is older and Prince Albert has a very bad reputation. Their relationship is much more open than William and Kates in the sense that she goes everywhere with him on official and unofficial visits. He is still under pressure but he appears not to care. I feel as if the BRF just lightened up and stopped being so stuffy that half of these problems would not occur.
November 9th, 2009 01:39
Clover lol, I can’t this ride anymore.
I have agree with Lisa, although it’s an old quote, James will be singing a different tune once this girl carve out her royal role.
JJ I too think the British royals should lighten up a bit. As the aritacl pointed out, the couple should embrace the media and see it as a way to do beautiful things. They have the media right at their doorstep and they could turn the negative attention to worthy causes and help the Monarchy out. At some point Diana stop fighting the media because it became a bad headache for her. It’s like she said, “okay you want to follow me, then follow me down to Angloa so we can make everyone aware of the dangerous landmines.” “follow me to an aids ward so we can show the world that you can’t catch the disease by shaking the patients hands.” Diana was a genius at working with the media.
November 9th, 2009 01:41
Sorry I ment ‘artical’.
November 9th, 2009 02:03
Like Karagiosis has said, I believe all the wedding talk has always been the press talking. There has never been one iota of anything substantial that William would marry Kate or anyone.
November 9th, 2009 05:16
every year the press talk about kate and william wedding bells and announcement for some reason i think they have a lot of the press crave for juicy princes wills and harry
November 9th, 2009 05:23
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226151/Prince-Charles-crowned-trip-Canada-Camilla.html
update
November 9th, 2009 07:03
Lisa, I couldn’t agree more with your comments in post 82. It’s quite possible that this new tactic is intended to “prove” that they’re annoyed by the paps. After all, HOW many times have members of this family been accused of posing and/or liking the attention? Too many, IMO.
And you’re so right about Diana… She did not raise her sons to be snobs. Not at all. I believe her primary concern was that people wouldn’t use them because of their position. I think Diana would have liked Kate because it’s clear that she loves William and she acts like a lady and hasn’t done anything to embarrass him or the RF.
November 9th, 2009 08:56
Almost all of the members of the RF have sworn to the press live, latest example was Princess Anne and there was no hoopla about it in any of the royal forums, where there should have, because it actually happened at a public horse event, not on a random day out.
Give it a break.
November 9th, 2009 10:40
I have seen the pics of Kate and Carol before. From a foreign acency. Early summer I think. So nothing new over the last few weeks.
November 9th, 2009 10:49
Missed the point which was not that there are suddenly pictures of KM and her mother covering their faces, but that these pictures are being printed by the Express.
November 9th, 2009 12:19
“Whittaker is a royal insider, he knows this family better than his own.”
Well then maybe “this family”’s time has passed also.
November 9th, 2009 12:43
Phoebe,
Do you really believe that?
November 9th, 2009 12:53
If they are of the same mind as James Whittaker, i.e., that only someone of the appropriate “breeding” is good enough to be PW’s wife, then yes I do believe that. However, I don’t believe they think that way. It’s just a small-minded bigotted snob named James Whittaker mouthing off.
November 9th, 2009 13:00
Maybe it’s just simple that Pr.William does not want to marry. The press keeps attempting to push him along and it is amazing reading his age of 27, I sometimes forget how young he is.
When he chooses to marry, he will there won’t be all the guessing.
November 9th, 2009 13:20
Good Evening All,
The Middletons seem like a very nice and close family that William really likes. Thanks to the tabloids they have turned this family’s life upside down and have influenced the way people think about them. There are times where I would really like to hear from them and hear what they have to say about people who think Kate is not good enough for William, his family and country.
I would also like to hear what Kate has to say after being in William’s life after all these years. She has remained silent and just without a voice for soo long that I think it would be great to hear her thoughts. It would most definitely put things into perspective.
November 9th, 2009 14:35
Rman,
I agree it would be refreshing to hear from Kate.
Phoebe,
I don’t think the Windsors are as bad as that!
November 9th, 2009 19:26
RMAN @ 87
Actually, you meant “article”.
November 9th, 2009 19:40
Rman, I agree with your assessment of the Middleton family.
The situation has been very difficult for them over the years and I sure hope there’s a happy ending in sight because they’ve more than earned their stripes. However, it’s also true that the more people criticize them, the more it looks like a lot of hot air. The proof is in the pudding; Kate remains at William’s side. She’s been embraced by the RF and ditto for William with the Middletons. One of these days, they will have the last laugh.
November 9th, 2009 19:53
On a totally different topic; what is the feeling in the UK (I’m American) on Camilla being called Queen when Charles takes the throne? I remeber when C&C first appeared as an official couple their was backlash, talk of some other titles being used. Is this still an issue?
November 9th, 2009 20:09
There is a new Vanity Fair Article which is s little misleading but hints at a split… Sigh…
November 9th, 2009 20:20
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/style/2009/11/will-prince-william-and-kate-middleton-stay-together-with-an-ocean-between-them.html
November 9th, 2009 20:47
JJ,
The Vanity Fair article sends mixed messages; it hints at a split while stating a wedding is planned for 2012. Which is it?
“However, fear not, dear romantics—there are no reports of an impending royal breakup; rather, the consensus is that the princess-in-waiting will be pursuing her own interests before she marries Prince William in 2012.”
November 9th, 2009 21:08
I am not persuaded by the argument that if the Middleton’s (or the RF for that matter) were more welcoming to the press, the press, in turn, would be “nicer” to them.
This argument assumes that the press will settle for any information. The fact is tabloids, but also so called “respectable” press, have very strong beliefs about what is information that “sells,” and stories about KMs work at her parents firm are not it. So the negativity will continue regardless.
About the press agreement… It may be fraying at the edges. It could also be a case of push back on the part of the press that will not last for long, once the Middleton’s seek new enforcement.
November 9th, 2009 21:29
I agree.
I also think that the Middletons’ privacy is forever compromised, regardless of whether KM and PW ever marry.
November 9th, 2009 21:47
Clover exactly..
Sojourner I partially agree. The press want to sell newspapers and puppies and fluffy bunny stories will only sell for so long. Eventually they will want dirt regardless of who you are and they will dig. However I think that whoever PW’s PR team are they should be doing a better job with helping Kate if there is any long term future for the pair. Charles spent a lot of time and money on Camilla and William should be doing the same..
The current hide and seek is not working well I don’t think??
November 9th, 2009 23:28
Good Night All,
rc lol, thanks for correcting me.
JJ, thanks for the link. It’s really hard for me to believe in this whole New York move for Kate st that’s why I haven’t really commented on it. The press has printed this same thing many times before so I have to see some evidence of that to believe it.
JJ I agree with you. I think the media is now trying to point out that the whole ‘hide and seek’ game is getting old now. The couple have played this same game since they left St. Andrews and it’s time for some things to change.
Now William & Kate have embarced the media a bit, they have provided them with some pictures of them together and the polo pictures from earlier this was part of it. Also the picture of William & Kate walking together after the wings ceremony was part of it too. I think the media just want to know what the deal is and they really showing their frustration.
There’s no doubt it that William & Kate are keeping us all on our toes and the media is trying to figure out what the next step will be. They know William have this trip coming up in January but they really don’t know what’s coming after that. Also William & Kate will be turning 28 next year and William did mention to Duncan Lacombe that he will consider marriage around that age.
JJ I’m hoping that Kate appearing by William’s side a bit more will do the trick. Sidelining Kate after all these years is part of the problem. The royal team need to start packaging William & Kate together along with packaging William’s royal role. There has to be a balance of the two.
The point is that a change has to come about and it don’t have involve the couple spilling the beans on their private life but put them out there as a couple and supporters of the Monarchy is the best thing. IMO!
November 9th, 2009 23:35
I would also like to mention that I’m getting the feeling that something is going on behind the scenes. What? we may find out next year. Something good though. I just have this feeling. I can’t help but tell you guys how I’m feeling.
November 9th, 2009 23:52
I find it hard to believe that these press outlets are flying with this NY fashion story. It is literally the same story that floated last year and the year before except they changed the name of the photographer.
Kate Middleton does not have to go to NYC to learn the are of photography. She can do it in London. And if she were to go to NYC, it would be for a week or two at most and I highly doubt that.
I personally am dreading months of these foolish tabloid lies that parlay into all these dumb rumors about breakups, trips to NY, imminent engagements and on and on…
November 10th, 2009 04:55
Lisa is correct. Kate does not have to go to NY to pursue photography. And just imagine the rumors and speculation regarding the state of their relationship if she were to do that. I believe it would be seen as a sign of trouble in paradise. Perhaps that isn’t fair, but it’s the reality of the situation.
November 10th, 2009 06:42
yeah i don’t think that kate does not nyc to pursue photography and imagine their speculation and regarding the state relationship or sign of split
November 10th, 2009 08:35
Honestly I don’t think either Kate or William care about speculation. They have been living with it since the beginning of their relationship, I think they do whatever they need to do to maintain a healthy, happy relationship. If Kate wanted to travel to NYC for a couple of weeks for a chance to work with a photographer I am sure it would be no big deal,although I cannot see her doing this. I think it is more tabloid BS that happen to grow legs out of the lack of any legit news.
November 10th, 2009 08:53
I do not buy the KM to NY story. They bring that up almost everytime they think that PW & KM might be splitting up. They have been together way too long to just throw their relationship away. I am hoping that some good news will come our way after the holidays. I can’t see waiting until 2012 for a wedding!
November 10th, 2009 09:10
If I am correct and 2012 is the year of the olympics in london and the Queen’s big celebration,then no way they will marry that year. Too much going on to invite world leadesr back and forth. As I have said in the past,I think it is possible that William and Kate will hold for dear life on to their “private life” until they are forced to marry either by HM or the desire to have children. If that works for them,then I wish them all the happiness in the world. If a wedding is in the cards for next year or 2011,then bring it on!
November 10th, 2009 10:31
Lisa you are correct 2012 is way too big of a year to have a wedding & the Olympics. The only way & I don’t even think it would be possible would to have one straight after or right before but again I think that would be too much.
November 10th, 2009 10:32
My feeling is that it will be next year or not at all…..
November 10th, 2009 10:59
I do not believe the Vanity Fair article – the author did not do the proper research.
You cannot invite the world leaders back and forth for the Olympics, HM jubilee and a royal wedding.
I am still going for 2011.
@ MJ 103
I am not British, but I have family in Britain. I can only speak for them. They are big fans of the RF. They are okay with Camilla. She is making Charles happy and relaxed, and to them, this is all what matters.
As for Diana: RIP.
November 10th, 2009 11:12
And sojourner @107
I absolutely agree with you !
Diana was very friendly with the press, and in return the press would tear her apart – just to make money. The whole machinery became unstoppable. Diana understood the importance of the press – but she could not master them. And lets be honest – the press did not really focus on her good deeds. They focused on the gossip – it is juicier and makes more money.
November 10th, 2009 11:50
jj, while I think 2010 may very well be the year,I don’t think they are over if it is not. There is so much involved in this decision that it is impossible for anyone on the outside to know why it has not happened yet. I do believe they will marry but when is the question. There may be issue that relate to the present government and the cost of the wedding and so on..with the Olympics coming to London in 2012, I bet much of the disposable capital the government has is being poured into that event. While I think the RF will pay for most of wedding, the british government would likely have to provide for police and maybe Military presence the day of etc…we just have to wait and see what happens.
November 10th, 2009 12:04
Good Morning Folks,
This is a wait and see thing right now. The tabs is throwing out all kinds of dates but all we can do is wait and see.
Personally, I’m just waiting to see what next year will bring.
November 10th, 2009 12:37
This time last year, the Kate stories was that she was pregnant, W&K wobble, and more W&K engagement rumours.
November 10th, 2009 12:57
I agree with Lisa and Chris about both 2011 for a wedding, and about the Vanity Fair article.
The Vanity Fair article just repeats what Clive Goodman said in his Daily Star article. As a matter of fact, the VF article includes a link to the Daily Star article, showing Clive Goodman’s article as the VF’s source of information.
And Clive Goodman’s article, in turn, is just a copy of an article written by Katie Nicholl in August 2009. Here is the link to that DM article:
http://tinyurl.com/mgm5d5
It’s possible that Clive Goodman and Kate Nicholl could be right for once, but if it is, why should Kate Middleton spending two weeks in New York be such a big deal anyway?
From the time period described, Kate Middleton would simply be spending two weeks in New York during the same time that Wills will be in New Zealand and Australia. And did anyone think about this:
Two weeks isn’t a long period of time, it’s just enough time for a really enjoyable holiday or a short work-internship.
And I agree with Lisa about 2011 being the year that William and Kate are most likely to get married, especially considering that the original News of The World “…they’ve already set a date” article (written by Royal Correspondent Robert Jobson) said that 2011 was the year, and that in 2012 Kate would be standing on the balcony during the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebration. Here is that original New of The World article:
http://tinyurl.com/kmt8rp
The NoTW article was published in August of this year, and so far many of the things Robert Jobson said in the article have been proven TRUE.
For instance, look at what Robert Jobson said in the NoTW article about Wills and Harry:
(quote) “In the short term the princes will focus on their military careers, but next year they will do more in the outside world together – including foreign trips, public engagements and TV interviews.
The royals hope the princes will give the monarchy a fresher, younger, more relevant feel. Both appreciate that this is a watershed for the royal family and that they have key roles to play in shaping its future.
William also has at least two big tours lined up on his own next year representating the Queen in Australia and South Africa.”
The above is a direct quote from the article. (Click the link I provided to read the entire article)
Time has proven some of Robert Jobson’s article to be correct. We know have offical confirmation that Wills is going to New Zealand and Australia, just as Robert Jobson said. There’s a very good chance the rest of his article will be proven correct as well.
Looking at it logically, our own poster Hale laid it all out for us even before Robert Jobson’s NoTW article:
2010 is an election year, plus William will still be in training. There are no major events happening in 2011 at all, while 2012 is crowded with major events. 2011 is the most logical and practical year for a wedding between Wills and Kate to occur.
November 10th, 2009 13:27
Mapleleaf that may be true but like I said before, this is all a wait and see kind of thing now. The press has thrown out too many dates for me so I’m just waiting to see what’s going to happen.
If there is a wedding being planned for 2011 then that’s fine (can’t wait for it) but I at least hope next year we will get a chance to see Kate more. I think it’s time to bring her out of the shadows a bit. Bring on more charity events, royal family events and lets just see some real change going on here.
November 10th, 2009 17:11
They will have to announce any wedding well in advance of the actual day, many high ranking royalty will want to attend the wedding. It will not be a last minute event that is for sure.
November 10th, 2009 17:13
I do understand what you’re saying Rman, but IMO it all seems very simple and straightforward.
For the most part the press seems to have focused on two dates, 2010 and 2012. Both of those dates have real obstacles because of the important events taking place: the elections in 2010, and the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee and the Olympics in London in 2012.
Both of those events would preclude a wedding during those years, it would be too problematic. 2011 is the most logical choice, IMO it’s a no brainer.
Robert Jobson’s article in the NoTW has already has some parts of it proven to be true, and Jobson is the one that first said 2011 would be the year the wedding would take place.
Robert Jobson isn’t perfect, but he’s got a much better rate for accuracy than Katie Nicholl or Clive Goodman, and at least Jobson has recently shown that he is correct in what he says with regards to Royal gossip. Looking at the situation from a logical and practical standpoint, it’s not hard to see that 2011 is the most likely and most feasible date.
As for Kate being brought out of the shadows, I agree with you Rman my friend; but I seriously doubt it will happen.
Kate is William’s girlfriend, not his fiancee. She may do more charity events on her own or with her family, but it would be extremely unrealistic for anyone to think that Kate Middleton would be present at any official Royal Family events.
That would be against both tradition and protocol, and the Royals rarely, if ever, do anything against tradition or protocol. I think it’s fine for Kate to continue to live her life as she sees fit and spend personal/private time with William.
I’m seriously hoping we get to see them go on more outings and lunch/dinner dates and football matches together next year, but I know better than to hope or expect Kate to take part in any official engagements.
November 10th, 2009 17:57
Well Mapleleaf, I’m really thinking about this young lady. I know all about royal protocol and traditions but all I’m saying is that some change has come about. We can go on thinking that this girl is all okay with being on the sidelines after all these years but at some point she will get fed up with it and William could end up finding himself alone. It could happen.
You guys know that I wish this couple all the best of luck and for them to keep strong but just let this young girl shine a bit. She deserves it now. That’s all I’m saying.
I will continue to wait and see what next year will bring.
November 10th, 2009 19:32
Rman, the RF has come a long way where Kate is concerned. Her attendance at William’s graduation from Sandhurst (not to mention her family’s), the Garter Ceremony, etc, etc. That was unprecedented for a g/f.
But I tend to believe mapleleaf is correct when she says we shouldn’t expect to see her at William’s side in an official capacity since she is only his g/f, and not his fiancee. I’m also not so sure it would be in Kate’s best interest. It would open her up to all sorts of criticism and she wouldn’t have the full “official” backing of BP. WE would love to see her at his side, but those that don’t care for the idea (lol) would eat her up alive and that’s not the best foundation on which to build a royal future. Just my opinion…
November 10th, 2009 23:08
I’m just trying to be patient Katharine and hoping for a better New Year.
November 11th, 2009 00:20
Hang onto that positive attitude,Rman. You just never know what might happen!
November 11th, 2009 01:24
good evening folks well i think the best thing to do is wait and for the press and tabs not speculate im sure not when times comes they will announcement but for now we have to wait Patiently and keep the positive signs going on
goodnight
November 11th, 2009 01:40
Oh, Lisa I will always keep a positive attitude.
Lets just wait and see.
November 11th, 2009 06:43
I realize you are, Rman, and I admire you for it.
November 11th, 2009 07:47
Rman you are the MOST paitient man I’ve ever encountered…How do you do it? I’ve been following this site for a couple of years now & posters have come & gone but you have stayed & never waivered in your faith that W & K will marry. I agree w/another poster that you should be invited to this wedding whenever it occurs! Do any of our friends on the other side of the pond know anyone at the palace who can get Rman on the guest list? Surely if the couple or any of their friends follow this site they would know that you are their most ardent supporter & I am sure that they appreciate your support in this wild world on the web. Now, how do we get you inside the Abbey or St Pauls? And do you use Twitter? That would be something to have you on the inside filling us all in on the details that the cameras miss! Rman for an invite!!!
November 11th, 2009 08:46
Guy Pelly is the man.
I’m sure one of William’s circle has been reading what we all have seen in the past two years.
Cheers
November 11th, 2009 09:48
I agree Keysmom! Rman more than deserves a place at W&K’s wedding.
November 11th, 2009 10:16
(laugh) you all are crazy. I’ll be happy to stand outside of the cathedral or abbey.
November 11th, 2009 17:02
Hello,
“In days of old, when Knights’ were bold and etc, etc ” friends of the Monarchy frequently helped solve the indiscretions of major and minor Royals and retained their pleasure for the rest of their days.
Occasionally this even meant travel to distant lands and estates over the seas but they still retained the support of the Family and thus prospered.
Times have changed but the the theory hasn’t and success in various fields such as vintners, antiques and even fashion have been assured by gracious beneficence.
I wonder ?
November 11th, 2009 18:06
Hello Ked,I get what you are hinting at .But is it true or pure speculation?
November 11th, 2009 20:07
I think that I have missed a lot today. First, how do we know that one of William’s friends Guy Pelly is readding this site. Ked, I don’t know what you are getting at. Please give more information. Has something change since this morning?
November 12th, 2009 00:12
Sall,since you seem to understand the riddle ked is telling,can you shed some light for the rest of us?
November 12th, 2009 08:46
^I can’t get bolder
“In Day’s Of Old”
“And Knight’s Were Bold”
“And Women Weren’t Invented”
“There were no Drugs”
“No Rock n Roll”
“No sex was documented”
November 12th, 2009 08:56
Me there are many versions of that riddle. Maybe I am thick but I don’t see how it relates to the subject at hand. I so wish this site had private messaging….this is exactly how rumors start.
November 12th, 2009 08:59
Perhaps some people’s thoughts are that Kate Middleton will never marry William, she will be the Mistress.
IMO W&K will marry.
November 12th, 2009 09:11
I agree with you,Me but with the monarchy you never know. It is not William I worry about. It is the people around him. His life is really not his own if you think about it. In our world if we love someone that our family does not approve of we shrug our shoulders and marry anyway hoping they learn to get along. In William’s world, that is not the case. People like that dreadful Whittiker person are commonplace.. I just sometimes cannot get Diana’s voice out of my head when she is talking about the “establishment she married into” and how difficult it is. I have often thought that if William did not end up marrying Kate that he would settle for some “well bred aristo” that was picked for him because it would be too difficult for him at this point to find a woman he could truly trust and his duty to produce an heir is very important.
I hope he marries Kate but you just never know.
November 12th, 2009 09:37
Lisa,
The one point I agree with in your post, some I disagree with, is that we DO NOT KNOW if or when a wedding will take place between PW and KM.
I also like the way you view the position PW is in, he must think of what is good for “the establishment” as well as for himself. He can not turn his back on duty ever and must decide whom to marry based on what will be good for the monarchy.
I am sure marriage is complicated for PW and I do wish him well. We just don’t know how this is going to end and that is whay there is sooooooooooo much speculation.
If we knew with a 100% certainty, such as having an actual official engagement annoucement from the palace, there would be far less discussion on these boards about such issues.
We would wonder, instead, about the wedding dress, guest list, wedding venue, etc.
We must wait….
November 12th, 2009 09:40
I hope that William will marry Kate because they are truly in love. I don’t think think they should marry to appease anyone, I can’t see Kate ever being his mistress. William saw Camilla, and Charles and how it hurt his mother. Since I really do think that they belondg together. I hope that the people around them are very supportive of them.
November 12th, 2009 09:42
I don’t think the “riddle” has anything to do with the topic of this forum. Try googling “knight” and check some of the recent news stories. Lisa is right. It is never fact, always speculation, and I think the intent is to start rumors. Motive unclear.
November 12th, 2009 09:53
There is not question that the sheer length of the relationship without a marriage has contributed to this endless and tiresome media speculation.
I am not fond of riddles rumors and all these dumb tabloid stories that people take seriously. I’d rather have no news then made up tabloid junk that gets people all stirred up.
Quality vs quantity is my motto.
November 12th, 2009 10:34
I agree with Me, I am totally convinced K+W will get married. Good for them.
Does anybody on this site seriously doubt that they will get married? I mean – seriously???
@ Kat
Me started the rumour that this Guy Pelly is reading this blog. This is how rumours start.
November 12th, 2009 10:45
Chris,until an announcement is made nothing is certain. I believe the chances are very great that they will marry but there is always a small percentage that something else will happen. You never know what is going on behind the scenes.
November 12th, 2009 10:50
Good Morning My Royal Peeps,
We just never know what’s going to happen but one thing I know for sure, Kate has not put a foot wrong since she has been involved with William. She had remained discreet, loyal, patient, supportive and loving to William and his family. There’s no doubt in my mind that his family supports this relationship. When I saw the pictures of Kate being greeted by Jamie & Miguel at the polo event, that let me know that they are behind her too. From what I can tell she has a very good relationship with Harry.
I’m not goig to pay any attention to the speculations because the proof that this girl is well liked and well received is there. We can choose to ignore this proof folks but it’s the truth.
I have no doubt that Kate will be a great support for William and his royal role. The girl just need a chance to show people this. I have said this time and time again, she can’t show people her royal abilities from the sidelines and I think this is what brings on these endless speculations, her being sidelined after all this time.
I’m hoping and praying for this couple because I see something very special here. I also hope and pray that by next year something official will happen.
November 12th, 2009 11:14
Lisa,
Thanks for reminding us of that one important fact about the future of KM and PW: the official engagement announcement!
All hunches, feelings, beliefs, dreams, and coffee ground readings do not amount to an engagement official.
If all is real and solid between Kate and Prince William, then there will be an announcement by the palace. The speculation will end at that point, because the hard facts will be in front of us.
Until then, we must wait….
November 12th, 2009 11:24
Rman is totally 100% right. by all indications,Kate is widely accepted by the family and with the exception of the roller disco,has not put a foot wrong. She has been loyal and faithful and kept her mouth shut. I am also sure that they would not put her family through the press intrusion and everything else if things were not moving in the direction of marriage. It would be cruel and illogical.
November 12th, 2009 11:28
Oh… don’t you underestimate fair traded coffee.
November 12th, 2009 11:44
That’s right Clover, all we can do is wait but I hope the wait will not continue for a couple more years because it’s already been too long and that’s why many people turned on Kate. The longer things go on without anything being official the worst things will get.
I’m starting to face reality here.
November 12th, 2009 11:44
^Hi Chris, I assume that maybe Guy Pelly is the man, due to past W&K personal celebrations, like Prince William’s birthday party (ies), where Guy Pelly was/would be like Michael Fawcett is to Prince Charles.
November 12th, 2009 11:46
I hope someone upload the documentry: After Elizabeth, it comes on tonight in Canada.
November 12th, 2009 11:47
Rman, in reality the only people that have “turned on Kate” are the wackos on the internet and a few tabloid “writers”. Anyone that actually counts appear to still be in her corner
November 12th, 2009 11:52
Prince William when his time comes will have his own courtiers and grey men.
Or are we expecting the 80-120 year old actuals to be working for him, not.
I see Thomas Van Straunbenzee, Guy Pelly, and other dedicated within the circle use their career orientation and friendship to help the future King in his duties, including his Queen Consort, whoever that may be. Hopefully I would want it to be Catherine Elizabeth.
November 12th, 2009 12:33
Like about 3 hours ago, London
http://twitter.com/SirJoshuaToThee
November 12th, 2009 12:36
Chris,
Right! I am all for fair traded coffee! Lol!
Rman,
I agree with every word. I am offering you a big, warm hug to go with your dose of reality. I hope it makes better for you!
November 12th, 2009 12:43
LOL, thanks Clover. I knew I felt somebody’s arm aroud me.
November 12th, 2009 12:47
Rman,
Aww! You are truly the sweetest person!
November 12th, 2009 13:00
Lots of excitement locally – don’t know what is happening but will try to find out!
November 12th, 2009 13:05
Well Clover I try.
Redlady do tell.
Off to work so I will talk to you all later.
November 12th, 2009 13:29
Redlady,
Do tell!
Rman,
November 12th, 2009 13:36
You would hope that the establishment has learned their lesson from the PC & Diana fiasco. PW & KM are so different from PC & Diana. PW LOVES KM and visa versa. PC did not love Diana – he needed a virgin. PC was still in love w/Camilla and that is where it all went wrong. Diana was upset that no one took her side when she found out PC was still seeing Camilla. The establishment thought Diana would be a quiet mouse and do what she was told… they had no idea the impact Diana would have on the royal system and the world.
November 12th, 2009 13:40
Well said,kd. Hopefully things have evolved.
Redlady, can you please define “excitement”?
November 12th, 2009 14:30
Redlady,
Please do not leave us hanging! Come back and tell us what is happening.
November 12th, 2009 14:33
a break up
or friday engagement announcement.
it’s so silly at this point, same thing year in year out and nothing.
November 12th, 2009 14:46
Anne
Exactly and we have heard this “excitement” many many times before….. The twitter thing was hilarious…
November 12th, 2009 14:48
kat,I think we can safely assume nothing is happening.
November 12th, 2009 14:58
One can only hope!
November 12th, 2009 16:40
me,I just read the twitter thing. How interesting! So again Kate is spotted in London, Kings road area. Hmmm, isn’t that where she gets her hair done usually? Maybe an event coming this evening? Just guessing…
November 12th, 2009 16:57
As in “happy” excitement? Excitement can mean a lot of things.
November 12th, 2009 18:20
SOO…
The reference in twitter to the “tossr” can only mean one thing.
I am afraid that Catherine Middleton has been…
hiding a pet dog! But he is deathly ill, and keeps tossing up his accounts! She hides her face in grief over the fate of her true soul mate, the one who stands by her through thick and thin (when not sideline by bouts of dyspepsia…)
November 12th, 2009 18:26
I am sure crazier theories will pop up before long,Sojouner. Just look at the volumes of posts generated by a few pictures of Kate with her hand up to her face! Obviously Prince William MUST have dumped her! LMAO.
November 12th, 2009 19:08
Actually, I have thought things through with more care, and now, I am sure, this time, the “tossr” reference can only mean…
James Whittaker (he he he)
November 12th, 2009 19:10
Right on!
November 13th, 2009 00:46
November 13th, 2009 06:52
are you sure lisa about your theory maybe kate middleton she wants to be a private person not waiting to public this time every celebs does if there feeling bad they don’t want to show your face good morning people….
November 13th, 2009 13:32
With regards to Ked’s post at #140.
The lines he quoted are from an old song. Unfortunately, over the course of time it has been distorted.
This is the original song.
http://tinyurl.com/ydfzru4
I always enjoy your posts Ked, but they are always ambiguous.
Just these lines and what you had to say could be referring to H & C, or what you said could be referring to the never ending story of K going to NY.
November 13th, 2009 13:37
Why would Kate care or comment on something JWh has said several times before. Why would she even have a phone converse about Whitker. It does not make sense.
November 13th, 2009 14:16
Hale,
Thanks for the lyrics! After reading them I am now even more confused by Ked’s post.
I really thought he meant something entirely different. I always enjoy reading Ked’s posts despite the ambiguity.
rv,
I thought the same thing! Unless she just read the 30 under 30 article in Vanity Fair where James Whitaker’s 2007 comment was repeated recently.
November 13th, 2009 14:40
I thought this:
and this: 
explained that I was telling a joke.
November 13th, 2009 14:42
Mapleleaf,
Thanks for clarifying your joke!
November 13th, 2009 15:05
Evening,
Kate could have been talking about anyone like someone she is working with, a friend, a boyfriend of friend, a guy she ran into. It could have been anyone. Also the person could have made up the phone conversation. It’s really wrong to talk about a strangers phone conversation.
Now is James Whitaker a ‘tosser’? I think he is a bit.
November 13th, 2009 17:06
May I just politely point out how frustrating it is when posters make statements and never have the courtesy to clarify them when asked. It has happened a few times recently,including ked’s little riddle-esque post and it is diminishing the enjoyment of the site,IMO.
November 13th, 2009 17:13
Lisa,
I enjoy the posts here, riddles and all! Some are mind teasers and I really like that. Different strokes for different folks, it seems to be a case of different tastes. I am not sure there is an easy solution for that.
November 13th, 2009 17:28
Not in reference to Lisa, who I know got my joke-attempt the first two times, and in support of mapleleaf,
When people include things like :LOL: and he he he in posts, we can safely assume they are trying to inject levity into what otherwise can be abjectly ridiculous discussions.
And I personally recommend that when a post seems ludicrous or otherwise baffling, we add our own invisible emoticons, and find our own enjoyment in them.
Life is just too short (and so am I
)
November 13th, 2009 19:39
I do understand about those who are trying to inject levity into the discussion. For someone who is not British amd dpes not know William or Kate, I do tend to get serious about the discussion. Point taken about enjoying the posts of others. I am enjoying reading about what everyone has to say. I am glad that there are a lot of people on this site who are so positive about William and Kate, Rman is the rock in being so steadfast in the belief of the relationship, Mapleleaf does wonderful detective work of the internet. Lisa is so positive, Ked challenges my thinking. I think Ked is sometimes trying to tell us info without coming out and saying it. Sometimes, I think I would need to be British to understand everything. I do wish that Redlady would tell us more about what she knows. Her excitement is contagious. This is a good site.
November 13th, 2009 21:13
good evening
well i think kate can talk to anyone she wants well i hope we can understand everything we don’t need to be British people to understand everything