Kate Middleton’s father and engaging talk for Prince William – Telegraph
It can be disclosed that William’s prospective father-in-law, Michael Middleton, is considering taking a step back from running his successful family business. Friends have interpreted this as a signal that he wants to concentrate on preparations for a Royal wedding later this year…
Kate Middleton: I want to be like Margaret – NOTW
Royal girlfriend Kate Middleton wants to follow in the footsteps of the original party princess – Wills’ Auntie Margaret. She’s got her heart set on a home in Mustique – Margaret’s favourite retreat…
Scare to the Throne – The Sun
Prince William watched a violent Bond film when he was eight. Wills’s chauffeur Stephen Davies knew the Prince was a big fan of the secret agent and gave him the blockbuster as a birthday present…
Richard Branson’s children’s intriguing social alliance with the young Royals – Daily Mail
… if there is a party, and the royals are there, you can bet Holly, 28, and her younger brother Sam, 24, will be at the centre of it. The pair have long been mainstays of Princes William and Harry’s social scene…
Photos: Prince William & Prince Harry at Rugby Match – Getty Images
Their Royal Highnesses Prince Harry and Prince William attend the RBS 6 Nations Championship match between England and Wales at Twickenham Stadium…
Photos: William & Harry at England v Wales – RBS Six Nations – Zimbio
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Harry’s face looks so dramatic, even though England won.
Mandrake has his way with word.
“Mr Middleton, who turned 60 last year, and his wife, Carole, launched Party Pieces, which provides children’s party paraphernalia, in 1992. They are believed to have become millionaires through the company.”
Speculating here, Mr. Middleton has other business to have made the family millionaires. I wonder if we will ever get to know.
He adds on:
“In her first and only interview, Kate’s mother told me in 2008 that she did not wish to be famous. “I’m not a celebrity and don’t want to be one,” said Carole, who was 55 last weekend.”
So he guarantees the she has only spoken once, and that is with HIM!
I hope he gets it right
Oh and happy belated birthday Mrs. Middleton, wish we could edit add and fix.
Anyway, we can’t but this still is my favourite royal site.
Here’s some AP pics of William and Harry at the game;
http://tinyurl.com/yzapwjx
Assuming the Telegraph story is based in fact, perhaps Mr. M. is stepping back to let the kids take over.
or is he starting a new business? or is he sick?
He is most definitely the brains behind the business — maybe James?
maybe kate is planning to be out and about more and wanted to squash the rumours of not showing up to work by saying she was no longer at party pieces….
“He is most definitely the brains behind the business”
How do you figure?
i have read alot on the web about him — stuff he has posted — he is the financial person behind it and in charge of the computers from what I can tell – I think Carole is PR marketing and probably staff management.
LIke James he has a good sense for business and how to make it work.
I think Party Pieces is a successful company because the Middleton family has worked hard together to make it a success.
Stuff HE has posted. Seriously, I want to see that, can you please link.
Ah this is so funny.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/06/article-1249121-082E9366000005DC-174_308x185.jpg
Unfortunately, the media has made such a mockery of the family and their business, that this is overlooked.
i think so the middleton are really trying to hard to avoid the paparazzi
Here is a bit of James talking about his business last year:
http://tinyurl.com/qehqzv
sorry i am not willing to link that sort of thing. you’ll have to take my word for it or not: )
Completely irresponsible to make these sorts of statements and not back them up.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156695/Harry-A-Prince-among-gay-men-
Ah Harry is numero 1 with the gay community.
Fury over Diana’s Twitter page-
http://tinyurl.com/yk6pqcf
Those who want to impersonate, have sad lives.
Am I crazy to think that the work on theMiddletons families image has begun?? With the story about Queen of Pang & now the story about Michael Middleton?? Just a thought…
Hopefully so JJ.
What happened to the Royal Internet Forum?
What happened with not believing everything you read on the internet?
re: RIF
I get a Database Error – same as this time yesterday…
Their front page says;
The forums are temporarily out of service. Check back soon!
Which one to believe; Jobson, Mandrake, the faker twitterers whom impersonate, the gay story, Brand Gelina wants to hitch Clinton or William
Im loosing count.
Well I don’t know. Jobson’s article don’t even make sense, I don’t know what to think about Mandrake’s story. I just hope we learn something solid and see some things happening this year.
Hello,
Yes Lisa I was at the Match which being an Anniversiary of sorts meant that several old friends ( friends? well yes but several of whom had tried to take my teeth out many times in the past) met up for lunch ,procrastination regrets (we had a few) memories good and bad but mainly happy remembrances of times past and the feeling when you blast out ‘Mae Hen Wlad fy’n Hadau’ still sets up the old emotions.
I saw PW and PH arrive with their entourage amd followed by a phalanx of six or seven friends ,( Guys and Dolls ?) but although recognising two or three did not see KM or CD amongst their girls . (Watch the crowd flashes om match replay).
Both PW and PH celibrated their respective team’s scores as did we all but personally came away frustrated and disapointed.
The news on KM’s father is interesting as I can’t remember the last time he was noticed and on the Christmas festivity photographs I didn’t see him at all and did wonder at the time. He does however seem to be a silent strong type but I have noticed his frequent absences.
I agree that the press embargo (if there is one) seems to be working and KM probably gets about now without hindrance. To my knowledge she is still living in the King’s Road area but PW and company seems to have moved elsewhere over the past couple of months.
As a matter of interest has anyone noticed that the ‘friends circle’ of both seems to have changed quite dramatically over the past months. Interesting as both now appear to have their own group with little overlap between the two!
Both England and Wales play again next weekend and I wonder if both Vice Presidents will again be in support especially at the Scotish games when the PR is always in attendance and sings ‘Flower of Scotland’ with gusto.
The advent of any announcement still seems remote as yet another anticipated date (14th) approaches and probably passes. I still believe that there is a further three or four 14ths before we hear anything as nothing has changed and I don’t believe there will be anything until PW leaves the service. Despite the many protestations of support by one or two posters here I believe that KM will stall until PW takes a discharge. She has had lots of grief during his military service and I’m certain she does often feel left out of his life. Yesterday was an example, others were there I don’t think she was yet apparently is a keen rugby fan.
Strange goings on.
Interesting how it’s possible to see just what you want to see.
Nice then, that what you see, is just what you see, and not the truth or reality.
Good too, that what one person “see” here. is not more important or valuable or true than what everybody else “see.
meg, that’s the beauty of a forum. It enables others to voice their perceptions.
jj I think you maybe right. Perhaps a PR campaign has been launched in favour of the Middletons. Take the Telegraph story, we know that was not CM’s one and only interview because the Telegraph themselves have quoted CM since when CM voiced her concerns has to whether KM would ever get married.
Either a laps of memory or a deliberate PR campaign.
PH voted NO.1 by Gays, I think that is great and I am not surprised when he minus the macho-ism kissed that guy on his cheeks. I was impressed.
Ked my commiserations, Wales lost. Still it is not over until it is over.
Dear RMan
I’m mary, newish, but a frequent reader of BRW since 2007.
I have really liked your general posts, you seem so nice.
However, whenever the press write things that do not favour a perfect will/kate fairytale ending, you do actually seem a bit cross.
Tke Katie Nicoll and her silly Kate & Will may never marry 2008.
You called it a load of ‘caca’, if i remember correctly.
Of the last two years, you have appeared mostly, correct, even more so than the infamous Ked and Karagiosis!
I do wonder, dear, if, by some twist of fate, k& w do not get married!
Being an Angelina J & Brad P fan, (i somehow, never got into the whole hollywood Jennifer & Brad thing). But when i saw him with Angelina, i loved it!
Would you welcome PW with another girl, say, Charlotte C, or would you never want to see him again & stop posting all together?
Pliz answer. I really would like to get your feedback.
Quote:
“jj I think you maybe right. Perhaps a PR campaign has been launched in favour of the Middletons. Take the Telegraph story, we know that was not CM’s one and only interview because the Telegraph themselves have quoted CM since when CM voiced her concerns has to whether KM would ever get married.
Either a laps of memory or a deliberate PR campaign.” Quote
Or maybe it’s the Telegraph admitting that those weren’t quotes from an actual interview.
LOl Meg. A quote and an interview are two different things. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. LOL
What do you guys mean, Mandrake is very clear in his article and did mention that he had a conversation with Mrs. Middleton 2008.
“In her first and only interview, Kate’s mother told me in 2008 that she did not wish to be famous. “I’m not a celebrity and don’t want to be one,” said Carole, who was 55 last weekend.”
Charlotte Casiraghi. Please. That is a tired alternative trotted out repeatedly by posters at sites that are overwhelmingly opposed to Kate Middleton. William strikes me as a person of more substance and would not be interested in Charlotte C.
I enjoyed reading what you had to say. I for one would like to thnk that I’d still look at this forum. I am so convinced that Willliam and Kate belong together that I would tink that there was some mistake if his name weree linked with anyone else. My second reaction would be to hope that they got back together. For me as being from th US I am not one to say that royalty has got to marry royalty. To answer your question is that I won’t need to find out. I believe that they are soulmates and will get married.
Me – we all agree that she might have talked to the Telegraph once (quoted in today’s Mandrake article.). But some say she has done more than one interview and some just doubt that. Today’s article seems to agree with the latter.
Actually, it was the same interview where Carole made her remarks.
jj, I have gone back and looked at the original story and it has been shredded.
I believe you have hit the nail on the head.
For those who want to ascertain what was said in the original story, best to peruse the royal forums who analyzed that article.
Guest,
I was just asking RMan.
Bust since you so sarcastically answered my my question, tell me…
who do you like more?
Kate, or William?
IN the angelina jolie and Brad Pitt thing, i like Brad. He has made me laugh.
Angelina is one of the most beautiful creatures i have ever seen. I preferred her to Jen Aniston anyday.
But when i heard from her interviews how she doesn’t like her own child (shiloh), gives her Maddox’s old clothes to wear coz she thinks SHiloh was concieved in prosperity whilst her other kids were born with problems, i disliked her immediately. Shiloh is her own flesh and blood!
IMO, I like both, they make a perfect match. CC has never been in the picture, but IMO again, wishful thinking of relating PW to a woman who has never been around?!
I’m beginning to believe what her father, (voight) said of her. She has problems!
I feel for her natural children. SHiloh, Knoxx and Vivienne!
Why would she hate her own children and want to adopt others?
If she walks out, America will HATE her!!!
Rman is american from what i understand and he can give me insight, (that’s why i asked Him)
Guest,
if will marries KM, from the way it looks, you can boast all yu like!
BUt if they break up unexpectedly???
I think Charlotte Casiraghi would make an excellent future queen!
Here’s hoping, (on the world’s most loving kate middleton website)
I don’t feel anything for B&A, they are fit to be together; the cad and the homewreaker. Both haver serious issues, if I’m to believe IH book and what he recently wrote.
CC In my view has other interests in Monaco.
They updated the “William and Harry at the game” article at the DM website with some new pics;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249121/War-rose-daffodil-Harry-William-Six-Nations.html?ITO=1490
Hale – you said there was more than one interview (post 30).
Mandrake now repeats what Carole said in one “interview”- He does not repeat anything about her worries for Kate not ever getting married. My point is that maybe she never said it, that’s why it’s not repeated. Not a laps of memory or a PR-campaign. JMHO
TelegraphNews
Queen plays dinner lady http://bit.ly/dgXdzr
31 minutes ago from twitterfeed
Meg, as I recall he had only one interview with Mrs. Middleton, and as he points out, during 2008. She didn’t in fact speak about her worries of Kate, but of her other 2 children. And he requoted what he said.
I do not see any inconsistency in his words.
BRW you went missing there for a while. Is there someone out there attacking these forums?
Don’t worry no one’s under attack! Our web hosts had some difficulties earlier today…
I had the same problem trying to connect with.
Meg, the only other article ‘boasting’ a talk was Katie Nicholl, that happened about 1 week after Mandrake posted 2008. KN claimed ‘a more than’ of Mandrakes original article.
Dear Mary,
It’s no surprise that I’m a major supporter for William & Kate and yes I do believe they will make it. There’s a love story there that hasn’t been told yet and I look forward to hearing some kind of truth from the couple. Like all couples, they will have their ups and downs but they seem to get through it together and that’s the beauty of this relationship.
No, Charlotte Casiraghi was never really one of William’s picks. The press came up with that idea when they thought that he would go on to date and marry from a titled family. She is a lovely girl though and she have a boyfriend.
I really don’t get into the whole Brad & Angelina thing but I think they make a great couple and they have a beautiful family. I just hope they don’t let the tabloids ruin what they have together. The media is pushing for a juicy split and I find that rather sad.
If the royal couple were to split a second time, I would hope they would get back together and fight for their love. I see something very special there and I don’t let all the speculations and rumors pull the wool over my eyes. I’m hoping that the official news will come and I will be able to help Britian celebrate their union. We just have to keep the faith and keep our fingers crossed.
I think that we might get an insight into the private llives of William & Kate in Robin Nunn’s book, William & Kate Celbrating a royal romance. I also think that there are two very different roles that these two people have, One is the public role where they are more reserved, dignified, and rather formal. There is the private side that we glimpse through what people tell us. In tose times they are described as close loving, very tender, close soulmates who love each other deeply. I tend to think that the truth goes to what they do in private with friends due to the fact tat they would not give the press something to write about. I do believe that when they get married the will marry for life.
I agree kat, we got a chance to see that love recently when they sat together at the wings ceremony.
Have you seen Charlotte Casgaris boyfriend?? That girl definitely likes the bad boys… You’d have a better chance matching her up with Harry than William. For now I assume since we haven’t heard any differently Kate & William are fine….
Some new pics of The Queen.
http://tinyurl.com/lw38ja
Some pics of Prince Michael of Kent leading a parade in marking the 58th Anniversary Of Queens Accession-
http://tinyurl.com/y8vg9eq
Charlotte and PW would be a rehash of what they tried with her mother and his father… didn’t/couldn’t work.
But she is breathtakingly beautiful (even more so than her mother) so I guess wishing she would hook up with PW is a way of wishing him well ?
Rman,
thanx for answering. i thought Steve BRW was banning me but it was a website difficulty.
Keep the faith!
i just wanted to know what life would be like if,IF
they didn’t marry.
Ofcourse you look right.
You have been right for a long time R Man.
Take very good care.
Get me in touch with your god,
He seems to be doing the trick (joke)
Mary
Ked I have wondered about Mike Middleton for sometime. when he has been quoted he sounds sensible and a gentleman. I have noticed that he is never around but I don’t think that is new.?
I do wonder about Carole and Mike and the pressure they are under. I detected something at the charity event but thought maybe it was a photographers/paparazzi thing?
without trying to start unsubstantiated rumours about the state of their marriage I would be most interested in whether this step down is a step out of the family. I have long thought he is the voice of reason in their household and wonder what is going on. Again i have nothing to base that on except an intuition. But maybe he is just stepping down from the company and that is it — I just have this nagging suspicion that there is something going on — what that is I have no idea…keep us up to date on your news of them as I am interested.
I think re, the rugby game both harry AND william have decided to keep their loves out of the spotlight and it is working … the one thing we dont’ know is what they are thinking of them in their off time …. are harry and chelsy back together … is kate splitting from wiliam and gaining some of her own entourage? If she is GOOD ON her … she needs a good group of friends SEPERATE from him. The only people I have read you indicate in her entourage are Willem Marx and Trini Lough — but both are connected to William too. WMarx organized DAy Glo as did trini – trini is st andrew’s crowd and her husband did live with emili d’erlanger’s finance — so who are the peope she is supposedly hangin out with that are not his crowd:? do you know?
:rolleyes:
WHO DAT!!!!!!
really?, Kate has her own friends and she have friends that are also friends of William’s. I’m sure William is friendly with some of her friends too. I just never got this issue that some people have with William & Kate’s friends.
I don’t know what’s going on with Harry & Chelsy but we know that William & Kate are doing just fine.
I think Michael Middleton is a very quiet man but very supportive of his family and William seems to have a good relationship with him too.
I can only hope something good is going on behind the scenes and we will see some evidence that a wedding is on the way.
i think yOU are right rman about mike being quiet. just wondering why he is stepping down?
maybe for a new business but again I wasn’t sure.
Can i ask why you don’t know about harry but do about william and his love?
re friends RMAN – I was only commenting on what Ked wrote re friendships being different crowds. and there beign a marked difference about whom they are hangin out with.
I don’t think I was having an issue with friendships I was just curious as to what ked was saying….
Kate Middleton, Trini Lough and Emilia D’Erlanger all went to Marlborough together. That’s how they are friends.
Emilia WAS NOT a friend of kate`s at malborough – she is a friend through William. Point Blank
Trini was definitely a friend at St andrew`s and her husband is friends with emilia`s husband and they lived together
but no that would be WRONG to state kate was friends with emilia BEFORE she knew William
You have no clue one way or the other.
actually I have more than a clue Phoebe – but chose to beleive what you want == that would however be revionist history – kate and emilia were not friends at malborough like they are friends now …. it was AFTER she met william that they became friends
Kate has her own circle of friends she can trust.I’d rather not mention their names. As for Trini Lough (Foyle), she is also, as is Emilia D’Elanger, Kate’s bbf from Marlborough College. Emilia was once linked to Wills as a possible royal bride and she holidayed with him, but after Kate/Wills split in 2007, Emilia supported Kate. There were a lot of paparazzi photos of Kate with Emilia (and Trini).
Claudia Joseph in her book “KATE MIDDLETON. Princess in waiting” says about Willem Marx that he has been named as Kate’s former boyfriend at Marlborough, but he may well have been just a platonic friend.
The only concern for the father of the bride is to pay the bills. I don’t think Mr. Middleton steps down from the family business in order to focus on the royal wedding. It’s just another wedding speculation.
Kate and Emilia had the same art history class at Marlborough.
IMO H&C lived a vacationship. I don’t know if that will change. With him in the AirCorps and she for a GAP year. They’ll just keep on with the vacation? ship.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1249284/Princess-Beatrice-paces-trains-London-marathon.html
ok me but didn’t kate and william then live the same thing?
No
I want to get me one of those 7-year (and counting) vacations!
WHO DAT!!!!
H&C when living in the same continent had more problems when dating from continent to continent.
Prince Harry to deliver a video speech, although he want to be there – Brits Awards.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2843419/Prince-Harry-has-video-plan-for-Brits-Awards.html
ok makes sense
honestly the couple that seems the most together is Bea and Dave
WHO DAT!
So we’ve got the Saints fans all in tow.
We be fleur-ishing! (apologies for the pun, but I am righteously silly right now
)
31 v 17, rights to sing WHO DAT
That’s right Me, WHO DAT, WHO DAT!!!!
really?, I just said that because I don’t have a clue what’s going on with Harry & Chelsy, I hope they are still trying to make it. We know everything is going good for W&K.
Woo – hoo! Go, New Orleans!!! Who Dat!
Punchy Princess Bea dons pink boxing gloves to train for marathon; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1249284/Princess-Beatrice-paces-trains-London-marathon.html
WHOA when all the saints come marching in, I got to duck
Who dat saying saints gone an won?
EVERYBODY!!!!
“But I’m told he is so keen to be there he is pleading with Army bosses to give him the day off from his helicopter training course.”
So – maybe Harry will be making an appearance at the Brit awards?
If they give him the day off.
ok my curiosity got the better of me and I went on the PP website and I have some thoughts on Mike stepping back
there is no longer a picture of kate mom and the other lady there and they have significantly widened there scope in terms of having adult parts of the website
My theory NOW is tht this was a hand over to James(and possibly kate ). James had sourced the candles that you now find on the website
I do think james is a bit youn to take it over …. but it looks like it has been going on for a while …
I predict it is James taking over the company and that Michael is stepping back due either to retirement simply or maybe he is ill I am not sure
i dont know to believe the story i read from the internet to kate and wills
That’s been up for more than a year now, Pippa is in charge of the adult section and party organization, she actually works for a Party company – Table Talk.
Kate’s is the first birthday link and James has the cake/candle section.
http://www.showbizspy.com/article/199442/prince-william-kate-middleton-weeks-away-from-announcing-engagement.html
i know its the same kind of arcticle, “a source close to middletons” but its arcticles like this the give me little bits of hope and excitement and make me anticipate the hype when their engagement is announced. it will be such an exciting time
oh neat on pippa … i guess they are all involved
but i do know that james was the one sourcing candles…whatever that means
Good Morning,
I would hope a wedding will happen this year but I don’t know. It would be nice if the engagement was announced this year and the wedding to be held in the spring of next yesr. William & Kate could do a series of public engagements this year , leading up to a spring wedding. I’m just thinking about William getting these last 8 month of training out of the way first. If they are planning to do it this year, that will be fine for me though.
I’m all for short engagements so we can get right to the wedding but I like the way Victoria & Daniel did it. Big weddings like these take a long time to plan and taking advantage of this year to plan out William & Kate’s wedding and all the festivities would be great. They could send Britain into excitment this year and we could keep the party going leading to next year. Just a thought.
Maybe this is what Mandrake means, the Middletons will be pretty busy working with the palace over the course of several months to put together the most awaited royal wedding of the year. I still can’t figure out what Mr. Middleton will do though. There’s china to design, dresses to design, souvenirs to be picked out, festivities to plan, etc. The list can go on and on. I know the palace do lots of the planning but Kate, her mother and her sister will be heavily involved and with the input from William. They have a lot of work to do and they should use this year to their advantage. Maybe this is what they will be doing this year, ‘wait and see’.
It surprises me how Mr. Middleton stepping back from his company has caused so much engagement speculation. He is 60 and Carol is 55; they have worked their entire adult lives first in the airline industry and then establishing their own company. IMO, they have reached the point in life where they can step back from the day to day work and enjoy their financial success.
Yes, I would love to have a W&K wedding this fall; but I don’t see how Mr. M taking time to “smell the roses” is a sign that an engagement announcement is coming soon. I am happy to be proven wrong and hope that I will be.
In the past the RF has had rather short engagements 5-6 months. If this changed for W&K I would expect it to be a shorter public enagagement, not a longer given PWs dislike of the press/tabloids
rman i am pretty sure the bride’s family is not involvexd in anything you listed
it will be the palace that does everything
the others just show up
I personally think that ShowbizSpy article is way off the mark. No engagement imminent as surely what would mean within the next 3/4 weeks which absolutely won’t happen when we have an election pending!
Rman, I am astonished at your post too, I must say. What on earth would the Middleton family have to do with the planning of Will and Kate’s wedding? Sorry my friend, you and I completely part company on that one. The palace will be making all the arrangements, it will come under their remit solely, as far as I can see.
MJ, I really don’t see the Mr. Middleton connection either. All I know is that there’s a lot of planning that will go into William & Kate’s wedding so most likely Kate, Carole and Pippa will be busy working with palace staff on putting this all together. I know Buckingham Palace will be excited once everything is official because I don’t think they have played host to a major royal wedding since Andrew & Sarah’s wedding back in 86. I like that Victoria & Daniel have taken their time and plan out their wedding over the course of a year. This way they have come up with ideas and see what will work and not work. They have been working with the city so the whole of Sweden can come together and celebrate. This is the approach I would like to see William & Kate take. I’m just thinking about all the stuff that will have to be done leading up to the wedding. I haven’t included the receptions, street parties etc. Of course Kate won’t have to stress much in planning the wedding but she will be pretty busy helping putting this all together. I’m starting to think my friends that’s why the Express article mentioned that Kate is working less at Party Pieces (if it’s true) to get started with the planning. Kate is going to be a busy woman.
LadyB, I’m just saying that Kate is going to have some input on her own wedding and she’s going to need the help of her mother and sister. I know the palace staff is what do the rest but they will be working with the bride to be on her own wedding, that’s how it is. Believe me LadyB, I know the palace have staff to make all this happen and I know all about all about The Lord Chamberlain’s Office that will be responsible for the ceremonial parts but you better believe Kate will be involved with the planning and with the help of her mother and sister. William will too have his input. It’s a lot of planning involved and the couple will have their say.
Whatever what was left of Diana’s disfunctional family – Sarah and Jane where head in BP helping out for the wedding arrangements. This was reported in the press at that time. Her father was no longer around.
Didn’t the POW ask Di’s hand to her brother?! Anyway, as Rman said “wait and see”. Mandrake does have interesting royal articles and might just be on target.
Rman, I too think Will and Kate will have input into their own wedding but fail to see why Carole/Pippa et al would be getting their heads together with palace staff.
I think a line will be drawn and of course her family will be very excited but I think that at most, maybe Carole could be involved, but very much on the periphary of things.
Sorry Rman, I’m British and all this is a bit over my head! Things don’t work out like that here, you know. Royalty may be a bit of a soap opera, but there is a limit, even for my usually vivid imagination!
Quite honestly, this sort of talk will not do the Middleton’s any favours. Lots of people read the views on this site who don’t post here. The notion that Kate’s family will be heavily involved probably wouldn’t go down too well. No wonder a lot is said about them in the way that it is.
‘M’ is clearly not intended to mean Monarchy, then?
That’s what I was trying to get at Me, Kate and her mother & sister will be involved. Kate won’t have to stress out over arranging a wedding like all other women because the palace will be the major supporting help but Carole & Pippa will be helping Kate out in many ways. Remember guys this a close family and Kate couldn’t have come this far without their support so most likely they will be there to support her when the planning get underway.
I know this won’t go down so well with the people who hate Kate’s guts and they will most likely express their anger even more at the very thought of Carole & Pippa getting involved with the wedding arrangements but that’s how it’s going to be.
Although I’m getting all excited over the wedding arrangements, we have to get the announcement first so lets keep calm. I just will be glad once we can move on from all the engagement speculation and get on to bigger and better things. I think the Swedish people was relieved to finally hear the official word, after so many years of speculations.
Me – your post 102 & 103; I’m confused as to what you are saying. Diana’s father was still around – he walked her down the aisle.
Diana’s father unlike Kate’s, had health and marital problems.
Other than, this is the 21st century, if the press reported at that time that Sarah and Jane where head in on a daily basis helping out with the arrangments, who know now a days?
I’m not saying that Mandrake’s got it 100%, but I wouldn’t discard the article.
Well LadyB, I know all about what people think of the Middletons and quite frankly I find that really sad. They have invested so much in hating them that I know they can’t turn around now. The truth is Mr. & Mrs. Middleton are a close family, built a successful business, provided a roof over their childrens heads, sent them off to good schools and have been trying to cope with all the media’s attention on them. They have been very supportive of the royal relationship and haven’t made a comment about it. They have kept their mouths closed since Kate started dating William and they didn’t say a word when the world came crashing down on them in the wake of the short split in 07. The rest of the rubbish that has been made up about them is just rubbish and people just have to learn to face that reality. The Middletons don’t seem to let that craziness bother them and they move forward no matter what.
We have to remember that Kate may be strong but she couldn’t have made it this far without her loving family by her side. Carole & Pippa will be there for Kate when steps over that threshold into royal life, they won’t be a mojor presence in the palaces (I know that’s the rumor going around on the royal forums) but they are her supportive system and sadly Diana din’t have that.
What I meant to say is that comparing the 80′s with Diana and her previous to marriage life – the dysfunctionality of her parents vs. Kate’s and her family 21st century, well one never knows.
I do agree with Lady B that BP will have the responsibility, but if during the 80′s S&J hands where there…
One of the major problems the late Princess of Wales had is that she had no one to really turn to, not even her family. Diana had her boys and that was her source of comfort and William & Harry gave her the strength to carry on. She put on a brave face for her children and their future for the Monarchy. Kate have a major supportive systen behind her, including William.
we don’tknow if mike has health or marital problems like di’s dad actually him stepping down from the company makes it quite likely that there might be one of the problems
I am telling yo that NO outsiders are allowed in on planning none….
Diana had almost everything done for her and she was advised over everythng from BP and it would be in kate’s best interest to make sure she listens to those advisors far from endearing herself she will seem lke bridezilla if she gets those two involved…
carole will see her daughter be married and will be at the services but count on the fact that se will be saying good bye to her daughter the dayshe is engaged
she becomes public property that day ad while the queen is on the thrown is very much a ward of hers and the suits…..
Journalists have been investigating the Middleton family, alike they did with Diana’s. By now we would have known. How do you think we got information of Mr. Middletons last name background and Mrs. Middlton’s Goldsmith background?!
Wasn’t UGG a surprise!
if carole had inputthey would be married where diana was married nt where william would like to be married ..
stay out is my advice and wish the couple hte best of luc
remember carole and mike are NOT paying for the wedding!
i woner how many more UGG types or stories are out there …i hope none for her sake
Rman at 110 I agree with you, Diana’s single and married life and her background is well documented from papers during her time to books.
Really? at 114 that is why NOTW used the infamous Sheik to get the bad out of the blacksheep, because in 6 years the press had nothing from the direct members of the Middleton family.
Haven’t you read how they’ve tried to catch them in some wrong doing. Is that obsessive. Reminds me of IH behind Brad and Angies.
with all due respect Rman w have no idea if the family isloving … many a family looks happy and on the inside they are not. I for one have always been disturbed by James’s acting out every so often and have wondered what might drive someone to do that?
Wile it is incredibly kind that you offer them that benefit of the doubt I am not naive enough to think that all tht has been printed about them has been a lie nor that that the way they SHOW themselve is what their hearts are truely made up off
there is a case to be made for ambition being incredibly important and pushing people to show a good side when there may not be one.; I have no idea if this is the case with the middletons but I will say that I am not willing as you are rman to simply look at life through rose colour glasses – i am far more interested in truth and seeking that …..
Me not talking and then finding something out is different than having nothing bad to say in the first place
really? the press have reported the options you are suggesting true or not, but they have.
From the find something out to having nothing and having something bad to say.
Your theory of a possible marital or health problem hasn’t been suggested or reported as a fact from the press. In Diana’s case her daddy divorced and married twice. It was a well known fact, thus not a close nit family.
The press is more interested in finding out the faults of a possible girlfriend entering the royal fold.
Just look at poor Chelsy, whom last year decided to give a statement related to her father’s dubious business activities.
really?, it’s not about ” look at life through rose colour glasses”, but it’s about not letting the tabloids pull the wool over my eyes. They are a close family and they may have problems just like all over families. I’m not in anyway saying they are perfect in everyway but the tabloids have been busy trying to tarnish the Middletons close family image to the public. They have to come up with some juicy gossip for the internet.
Guys I’m not saying that Carole & Pippa will be heavily involved with the wedding plans but Kate will most likley seek their advice on some things. Pippa will most likely be Kate’s bridesmaid so she will probably help Kate out in the pattern of the dresses. That’s all I’m saying, Kate will not only have help from the palace (the major supporter) but also from her mother & sister, to whom she is very close to. It’s really sad that people have an issue with this because we should be happy that Kate have a group of close family and friends around her, that she can trust. It’s what carried her through these tough years of being in the spotlight and under so much pressure.
Rman I do understand what your saying, specially the first paragraph. Just because the planet has out of 10 couples/family, 8 are in trouble, doesn’t mean W and H can’t possibly go out with two girls that belong to the bottom 2.
I’m sure they really enjoy, appreciate and are in awe with both families, something they didn’t have with the Windsor or Spencer side, both these families are dysfunctional.
I read once from one of Katte’s ex friends (she talked to the press) that William enjoyed very much visiting her and seeing and doing the normal stuff a family does on a sunday. There was nothing wrong with the article but I do understand why sell $$ the story of a supposed friend.
Really? – why are you so insistent that illness or marital issues are the reason Mr. M is stepping back from PP? You make reference to this is posts 7, 58, 90 and 111.
He as reached an age at which many men, who are financially able, work less and enjoy life more. Why read more into it than this?
Very true Me, it’s pretty much known that Diana’s family wasn’t a very close one. I think that has calmed down now, The Spencers have learned a lot of the years and they most likely know now that unity is needed in the family.
This is also true-
“The press is more interested in finding out the faults of a possible girlfriend entering the royal fold.”
They have done this to many of royal girlfriends, including Sophie. All over the net, YouTube, Twitter, blogs, forums, and online news sites people have elaborated on the petty things about Kate and Chelsy but they fail to look at the big picture that really matters. The love, loyality, support and understanding these girls have given to the princes. In her recent editors letter, Ingrid Seward put it forward best when she said-
“For the prince, the most important thing is trust, and in Kate he has found a girl who is not only beautiful but also totally trustworthy. But more important than wealth or an aristocratic bloodline (once perceived as essential), she has loyalty in abundance and a stable background of happy family life.”
Somehow this is over looked and I find that incredibly sad.
My friends, here are some new pics of The Queen:
http://tinyurl.com/yfjmfna
She even took the train back to London, I just love this lady.
08 Feb 2010 Queen Elizabeth II arrives at Kings Lynn Train station on her way back to London at the end of her winter break on the Sandringham Estate in Norfolk:
http://tinyurl.com/yczvk5z
http://tinyurl.com/yagkmkg
http://tinyurl.com/y9c72ph
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Those pictures of the Queen are very endearing. She really is a lovely lady.
One of the differences I see between Kate and Diana is that the latter, when she arrived on the scene publicly, became engaged quite quickly to Charles. There really wasn’t enough time between the engagement and marriage for the general public to get any real impression of her before she walked down that aisle.
Not so with Kate and her family. Far from it. Unfortunately, there have been too many years and far too much time whereby things have just trundled along and what with one thing and another, too many photographs and tabloid stories have been published.
Now, as I see it, when Kate first appeared on the scene, she was praised to the heavens. That has changed. A lot of people will have very varying opinions now.
As regards Michael Middleton, I hope he is laying back a bit and who knows? Enjoying time on the golf course, perhaps?
Yes, this is something new for the BRF, a long term relationship.
Not only William, but I see, get and understand what they learned from the quite quick engagement/marriage, after math problems.
I agree ladyB. That’s the big difference between Kate many of the young ladies that have married into royal houses. So much time has passed and so many things have been published but it’s not too late, the people just need a chance to get to know her and see the qualities she will bring to the monarchy. I very often feel that people just need to hear her voice now.
I agree with that too Me, quick engagements and marriages became a big problem and I ado agree with the new approach to royal relationships now. I think with this new approach, the royal household need to apply better PR for the royal couples. The transition from girlfriend/boyfriend to royal wife/husband needs to run a bit more smoothly. I’m sure Kate now understands the process but I don’t think she will look back on all these years with much pleasure. She may only reflect on the years her and William spent nurturing their relationship privately.
Royal brides: The fairytale wedding dresses worn by real-life princesses
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/gallery/201001292842/royal-brides/wedding-dress/princesses/1/1/
Mathilde
IMO the only one of those dresses which were nice was Autum Philips. IDK why they have them gussied up in those nasty creations maybe because they are royal there is no shoulder showing and a lot of lace but boy I didn’t like any of them at all…
Prince Charles asked Earl Spencer for permission to marry the then Lady Diana Spencer. He was then happily married to his second wife Raine Spencer. At the time Diana’s married her brother was 17.
The Middleton’s will do as other family members of those who have married into the RF and that is to have no input except to make a financial contribution to the wedding.
Although Pippa, I’m sure shall be a bridesmaid.
Just a reminder, Summer 2012 is when the Olympics are to be held here. Therefore if there was to be a royal wedding that year and if it were to be a grand one then the cost to Londoners would be enormous considering they are having to foot the bill for the Olympics security.
It may have criticism’s from the public. Also the Q’s jubilee is that year.
If there is to be a wedding then it is 2011 or 2013. Unless of course it was to be a small wedding to be held at St George’s chapel Windsor.
Never forget the Q is very sensitive to the fact that there is a recession on here. No skiing at Klosters this year for PC and not many nights on the town for the prince’s. It is all very low profile and if anyone is to be seen it is that they should be seen to be doing good works.
I also think it very unlikely that when England or Wales are playing rugby we shall not be seeing either Kate or Chelsy accompanying the prince’s anymore.
I see this because since both the prince’s are now patrons of these two national rugby teams their attendance are now deemed as official engagements.
“From the find something out to having nothing and having something bad to say.
Your theory of a possible marital or health problem hasn’t been suggested or reported as a fact from the press. In Diana’s case her daddy divorced and married twice. It was a well known fact, thus not a close nit family.”
fair enough
I agree lady b re timing being a major issue in developing opinions re amily
mj that is a good question … i just asking really to see what others thought ,…. not definitive in any way ……
amily should be family
my keyboard is sticking!
Would just like to add to my last post, although Earl Spencer was happily married it didn’t mean Earl Spencer’s children liked their stepmother.
Although much later on Diana did become friends with Raine.
here here hale
voice of reason once a again!
Good post Hale.
Guest or Phoebe whom said after the DM latest article of Brad/Angie that the DM was going to receive a complaint or will be facing legal problems. Nice call. Apparently they will sue if the press continue to pursue on false allegations.
And to reinforce the message, they issued a legal statement yesterday insisting that they have no intention of ending their relationship.
Lawyers for the couple said that they are not about to split and would consider suing any media outlets which continue publishing the ‘false allegations’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1249308/Brad-Pitt-Angelina-Jolie-togetherness-join-celebrities-Super-Bowl.html#ixzz0ezcn7foL
Thanks for that link Me, I’m glad they are trying to straighten out the tabloids mess.
Hale, I was just pointing out that Kate may have her mother & sisters help in deciding on some things. We all know that the women pretty much handle these things. I’m not saying that Carole & Pippa will be heavily involved because the palace departments will be handling most of everything. So I just wanted to make that clear. Remember this is William & Kate’s wedding, they will have their input.
but what input do you have if everything is decided for you
I know this is not royal news, but its very interesting, related to suing press and paparazz, since days and months ago we have seen what the Queen had requested for her family and friends and lately K and her family over Christmas day.
Pitt and Jolie to sue News of the World over ‘split’ story
Claim of separation ‘false as well as intrusive’, say lawyers, as Pitt and Jolie begin action in London high court.
(info in the guardian.co.uk)
interesting
going the way of kidman and cruise….
Good posts all around!
RE: Costs…
Lots of reasons and evidence to suggest that the public is watching how all royal houses spend their $/ £s.
However, thanks to Royal Researcher Rman’s exceptional YouTube find on the HRH own wedding (see links a couple of weeks ago?), historical evidence seems to suggest that the public might be swayed once the show is on the road. This video also reminds us that PP was not, shall we say, that much more popular 50-odd years ago. And finally, the video suggests a long term relationship between HRH and PP…
Food for thought.
really?, I think people are misunderstanding the process of the palace putting on a royal wedding. The palace have staff that will put together a wedding but it’s not really done without the input of the bride & groom. They are pretty much involved with the process, they just don’t have the normal stresses like other couples do when they get married. Kate will work with the team on the wedding but of course she will most likely seek some input from the two women in her life, her mother and sister, that’s all I’m saying. If people flip out because Carole & Pippa helped Kate out a bit, well then I guess that’s tough, they just have to accept it.
Well I guess News of the World had it coming. That tabloid has been spreading lies for sometime now. Their most recent royal lie was the story of Kate wanting to buy property in the caribbean and wanted William to invest against The Queen’s wishes. Look at the comments on that site, they believed it.
sojourner, that was a great documentary and it let us all royal watchers know, that it wasn’t a piece of royal wedding cake to get The Queen & Prince Philip married. Here’s a link to that great doc-
http://www.youtube.com/user/324wilson#p/u/14/KBdEH0RB2Tc
Hmm – I don’t know if I’d use “Brad and Angie” as a good comparison to William and Kate’s situation – after the interviews Angie has given lately, I think they are probably a couple “in name only”, and that they are trying to protect the children and the prestige that comes with being one of the most famous couples out there. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be going to this great of an extreme to deny a story that, if it isn’t true, we will all find out is a lie shortly because time will pass and they will still be together.
Though their threats of legal action might help William and Kate – I know that there are paparazzi laws in California and I think there are in New York. It doesn’t stop the paparazzi from taking your picture, but apparently they are stricter than the ones in europe. Maybe if enough celebrities fight back, the laws in europe will be further tightened. Though if the death of Diana didn’t accomplish this, maybe nothing will.
rman they aren’t simply wedding planners of that I can assure you — there is protocal very few invitations go to the bride or groom and there is very little input from the bride and groom
it was different for autumn and peter for example as they had to or rather she had to payfor it….
this will be paid for and this is about duty and protocal and the launching of a public couple toa public life and this not a fairtale … kate will even be advised as to who to choose to do her wedding dress..and she woul do well to take all suggestions – which i suspect she would.
The NOTW was not the rag that I thought would get hit with a lawsuit. The DM’s excerpt from someone’s book describing alleged screaming matches and Brad Pitt smoking dope I thought was pretty defamatory. I guess they have their reasons for choosing who to go after. Beware of litigious Americans with VERY deep pockets.
Yes I know Kate will be advised on some things really? but what I’m saying is that the bride & groom will have their say. They will be asked what music they would like?, who will be in the bridal party, they may even request someone to sing at the wedding. William & Kate will work with the team about their day. That’s all I’m saying. God I hope it will be next year.
Where’s Lisa?
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/721397/KATE-I-WANT-TO-BE-LIKE-MARGARET-Kate-Middleton-wants-home-in-Mustique.html
Wonder if it’s true??????
Hale, thanks for your post @ 137. Very succinctly put, most notably the part about the recession and the Queen who, I am absoutely sure, is very sensitive to our current economic situation.
I don’t really feel the timing would be right for a royal wedding here yet. I don’t think there is an appetite for it. Don’t forget, the latest figures for our emerging from recession are still pretty dismal and very frail. We need a bit more time yet.
I think your point about the Olympics also rings very true. Such a huge amount of expense is being directed for that.
My humble opinion is that a wedding MAY take place in 2011.
i think that they will work as a team william and kate like a normal couple they cant do what they .want do.
i’m hoping that too rman to see william and kate will do their wedding im going to watch i hope next year possible. Well i know they have a plan on that and they cant work with the wedding planner as soon as their public knows their enagement.
I can’t believe you people are even discussing Brad & Angie. UGH.
What is signifigant to me about the Brad and Angie situation is that they are standing up and fighting the lies these tabs print. It does directly relate to W/K because I think much of what is written about them is untrue as well.
Good Morning,
Lisa it’s great to hear from you and I agree. These tabloids are something else and I’m glad that Brad & Angelina are going after them. They have written so many untrue things about William & Kate, it’s not even funny. Sometimes I think the tabs will go too far and the royal couple will end up getting their lawyers involved too.
Rman I have not been able to post as much because work has limited our internet access but I also have decided to take the words of a wise man and just “wait and see” what happens and not get so excited about every word printed. It is the season of love here is feb so my hopes are still high for an announcement and not based on any silly,non factual article,either. So as I said,”wait and see”.
I know what you mean Lisa, my boss got on me about surfing the net while on the job but still try to sneak a peek of the net.
really? & LadyB, thank you very much.
I agree, given our economic times I to do not think there is currently an appetite for a royal wedding. There is too much going on in this country.
For eg: The MP’s expenses and what has exasperated this scandal is that three of the MP’s who are to be criminally charged are now claiming Parliamentary privileges.
Extraordinary when you think these same MP’s have been critical of the RF and THEIR privileges. How hypocritical is that?
Plus we have an election this year.
2011 and 2013 in my opinion are the better years.
About weddings. I recall from Diana’s & Fergie’s wedding what happened their was the input they have is choice of designer, which should be British unless of course they are prepared for the press to make a meal of that. Colours of the floral display. The odd piece of music.
Diana was allowed just one choice at her wedding. She had the hymn, “I vow to thee my country”. Also, Diana had the “Obey” omitted from the marriage vows. Good for her. Plus Diana had one choice of a bridesmaid, and that was the little girl she used to help look after.
On the whole protocol takes over. I think there shall be a strong difference between William’s wedding and Harry’s simply because William is the heir to the throne much the same way there was between Charles & Andrew.
Edward, wanted to keep it personal hence the wedding took place at Windsor Castle. It was mostly family and his & Sophie’s wedding.
Personally, I happen to think they had the best wedding. I know most people prefer the grander ones, but it was because Edwards & Sophie’s was so personal that I preferred theirs.
I wonder if Kate would call on the services of Berni de Lise? I think that is his name. He is the guy that PW met at the anniversary of Centerpoint and said to him, “My girlfriend is a fan of yours”. Words to that effect. The guy is an American designer and stylist.
I think all this low profile of the young royals is exasperating the press. Not much royal news and too few new angles. They are beginning to look like headless chickens desperate for any news in order to sell there junk.
Since posting above, I think Diana did may have had another bridesmaid???????
Also, when talking about Edward & Sophie, what I meant to say was just both their family and friends.
All in all, I think times are changing and people prefer smaller weddings, but I guess that is just me.
Haven’t Kate and Wills taken several vacations to Mustique together? It seems to me they both like the place, so that might be why they would consider buying a house there. Or maybe the whole story is made up because it’s a slow news day ; ) .
bridal parties are considered extremely gauche in england you don’ t have them
“advised on some things ”
i don’t know if i can hammer home the point any clearerrman but that is misinformation …. they will be advised (read told) on all aspects of the wedding and she will have very little choice as to what goes on….
We shall see really?.
Hale I did like the Earl & Countess of Wessex’s wedding better too. In reality, we just have to wait and see on what kind of wedding plan the couple have in mind. really? and I have our differences on this but the couple will have their say on the matter. William & Kate aren’t a couple that is pushed around much and I’m pretty sure they will be involved with the process and their suggestions will be taken, it’s their wedding for their future sujects. I’m sure the couple will make it a very special day for Britain.
We need the engagement first though.
Hello,
To say that I’m sirprised is just about the least I can say. I know the site is BRM but some of these latest posts are really pushing it and inviting criticism and retaliatory posts.
You’ve almost selected the colour of the table decorations , the honeymoon destination and the designer of KM’s going away outfit.
Guys please, have some decorum, be patient for at least 3+ years and then start the ball rolling.
Every time an anniversary, birthday, valentine’s day or any date that comes into someone’s mind approaches the speculation starts.
There are consideration before anything happens, some I am tired of mentioning and there are so many other variables such as PW’s training and future service and many others.
I know we all enjoy speculating and procrastinating but read the signs , don’t anticipate because if it was going to happen before 2014 it would have happened because cold feet happened a year or so ago and put the entire matter on hold.
It’s not quite a start again process but very close to it.
I agree Ked, we are getting a little ahead of ourselves but it’s going to be sooner than 2014 my friend. Just hold on.
With all due respect,ked,no of us has any more information then the next regarding the timing of William and Kate’s wedding. I don’t know where you are getting your information from but unless your willing to share your sources,which I highly doubt,then you guesses are as good as mine and anyone else’s on this board.
Britain doesn’t need the expense of a Royal Wedding to cheer up the nation – England winning the World Cup will do nicely! In my dreams….
Ked,
Thanks for the reminder! Wedding planning is at the center of the British Royal Wedding blog!
Ked, always a pleasure to read your posts!
Don’t worry, Valentine’s is just around the corner and that is guaranteed to get the whole rumour mill working overtime …
Have to say I agree wholeheartedly with your point about there being so many variables. The list is too long, in my view… wish it were all a lot more simple.
Going to call it a night, I think!
which hand made gift with william give kate for valentines this year?
isnt’ that usually the story???
LOL, handmade gift was for her birthday this past January.
Valentines this Sunday, I’d go for a full English Breakfast and a new puppy for the collection.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2010/02/09/prince-william-is-a-fan-of-anglesey-burger-van-55578-25791182/
A William update.
i think they have a date on valentines day
(You’ve almost selected the colour of the table decorations , the honeymoon destination and the designer of KM’s going away outfit.)
-cream/gold
-Scotland
-blue Issa
……… date August 20, 2010.
At the risk of sounding very, very morbid: it has been announced that British fashion designer Alexander McQueen has died. A terrible shame. I would have liked to see him desgin the next royal wedding dress.
That’s sad. I think Beatrice wore a lot of his clothes.